| === jussi01 is now known as jussi | ||
| thebishop | "The Canonical developers also admitted that having features like multi-GPU/hybrid support for Mir is a long way out. " - Mir or no-Mir, the hybrid graphics situation on Linux is getting untenable | 14:55 |
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| Thurin1 | Was Unity the right choice or will Ubuntu suffer from ditching Gnome 3? | 15:19 |
| Wizard | Hard to say, actually. | 15:21 |
| Wizard | In my opinion Ubuntu will have to fork Gnome sooner or later or replace it with something else. | 15:22 |
| Thurin1 | True. | 15:22 |
| Wizard | Unity in fact *is* built on top of Gnome 3. | 15:22 |
| Thurin1 | Yes, I am aware of that. | 15:22 |
| Wizard | But Unity and Shell differ in many areas. | 15:22 |
| Thurin1 | But, I think Gnome 3 will be the choice for desktops. | 15:22 |
| Thurin1 | Ubuntu however has it made for tablets. | 15:22 |
| Wizard | Bull... RedBull :P | 15:23 |
| Thurin1 | What part? | 15:23 |
| Thurin1 | Gnome on desktops? | 15:23 |
| Thurin1 | Or ubuntu on tablets? | 15:24 |
| Wizard | Belive me, both Unity (as in regular Ubuntu, 13.04) and Gnome Shell suck on a touchscreen. | 15:24 |
| Thurin1 | Yes, but I find unity sucks a little less. | 15:24 |
| Thurin1 | Because the dash is always present. | 15:24 |
| Thurin1 | Gnome 3, more finger work. | 15:24 |
| Wizard | Well, in Shell "Preview" button is always present. | 15:24 |
| Wizard | Unity is Gnome 3 too. | 15:25 |
| Thurin1 | Yeah, at the top left corner... than look down, then press etc. | 15:25 |
| Wizard | I don't get your point. | 15:25 |
| Thurin1 | The way the layout is. :D | 15:25 |
| Wizard | You meant Gnome Shell? | 15:25 |
| Thurin1 | The defaults. | 15:25 |
| Thurin1 | Yes gnome shell | 15:25 |
| Wizard | Well. Unity is a classic desktop actually. | 15:25 |
| Thurin1 | You like it as a desktop? | 15:26 |
| Wizard | Sure. | 15:26 |
| Wizard | Moreover, I think it was a step in right direction :) | 15:26 |
| Thurin1 | I do too, but I prefer gnome-shell after using it for a while. | 15:26 |
| Thurin1 | Oh, it was. | 15:26 |
| Wizard | Well, both was. | 15:26 |
| Thurin1 | Much better than gnome 2. | 15:26 |
| Thurin1 | But... | 15:26 |
| Wizard | I like gnome-shell too. | 15:26 |
| Wizard | But what? | 15:26 |
| Wizard | Man, I waited more than 10 years for this :D | 15:27 |
| Wizard | Linux got its own desktop! | 15:27 |
| Thurin1 | For this conversation? | 15:27 |
| Thurin1 | Me too | 15:27 |
| Thurin1 | lol | 15:27 |
| Thurin1 | :P | 15:27 |
| Thurin1 | Yes! | 15:27 |
| Wizard | No, for true Linux Desktop. | 15:27 |
| Thurin1 | It really feels like it. :) | 15:27 |
| Thurin1 | It's not a copy of MS or Mac... | 15:27 |
| Thurin1 | We're Linux. | 15:27 |
| Thurin1 | :) | 15:27 |
| Wizard | Not FVWM with bunch of crappy athena widget apps, not KDE which immitates Windows 98 not Another OS X WM. | 15:27 |
| Thurin1 | KDE... | 15:28 |
| Wizard | (Actually, Unity resembles OS X in some areas, but who cares ) | 15:28 |
| Wizard | Broken. | 15:28 |
| Thurin1 | Perpetually. | 15:29 |
| Wizard | Well, KDE1 was nice. | 15:29 |
| Thurin1 | 4... 4... terrible. | 15:29 |
| Wizard | Terrible. | 15:29 |
| Thurin1 | That's another thing | 15:29 |
| Thurin1 | With Unity now | 15:29 |
| Thurin1 | I think is the time to get rid of the Kubuntu line. | 15:29 |
| Wizard | Why? | 15:30 |
| Thurin1 | Because people who want KDE know how to get it anyways. | 15:30 |
| Thurin1 | Unity should be Ubuntu and Ubuntu should be Unity. | 15:30 |
| Wizard | Hence the name, I belive. | 15:30 |
| Thurin1 | hah | 15:30 |
| Thurin1 | One thing that's always been a blessing and a curse at the same time is the sheer amount of distsos. | 15:31 |
| Thurin1 | distros.. | 15:31 |
| Thurin1 | So much wasted time on the same thing really. | 15:31 |
| Wizard | This is only a matter of time. | 15:31 |
| Thurin1 | Ubuntu should just be Ubuntu... desktop/tablet/Server. | 15:32 |
| Thurin1 | Makes it simple. | 15:32 |
| Wizard | If it comes about me, Ubuntu lacks two things. | 15:34 |
| Wizard | 1. Fonts and LibreOffice templates which actually look good. | 15:34 |
| Wizard | 2. Avahi integration for local network services discovery. | 15:35 |
| Thurin1 | Yes, especially #1. | 15:36 |
| Thurin1 | Actually the whole UI in libreoffice needs an overhaul but that's another story. | 15:37 |
| Wizard | Well, I agree. | 15:37 |
| Wizard | Sometimes when I look at it it reminds me of Ancient Egypt :D | 15:37 |
| Wizard | I don't know why. | 15:37 |
| Thurin1 | hahahaha | 15:38 |
| Thurin1 | Yeah, it's sad actually. | 15:38 |
| Wizard | Probably this UI design was found among hieroglyphs in Gisa :D | 15:38 |
| Thurin1 | You know when you're all excited to introduce a friend to Linux... and they ask "well what about work? documents and spreadsheets?" | 15:38 |
| Thurin1 | Then you fire up that damn ugly thing | 15:38 |
| Thurin1 | Wizard: haha maybe. | 15:38 |
| Wizard | Even Google Docs offers more. | 15:39 |
| Thurin1 | lol... it even looks better. | 15:39 |
| Thurin1 | Anyways, that's the end of my lunch break... | 15:39 |
| Thurin1 | Back to work, yay. | 15:39 |
| Wizard | And it is some kind of javascript abomination. | 15:40 |
| Thurin1 | see ya | 15:40 |
| Wizard | Bye ;P | 15:40 |
| Wizard | I hope we won't ba banned from here for this small chat. | 15:40 |
| === Adran is now known as The_Doctor | ||
| === The_Doctor is now known as Adran | ||
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