=== jussi01 is now known as jussi [14:55] "The Canonical developers also admitted that having features like multi-GPU/hybrid support for Mir is a long way out. " - Mir or no-Mir, the hybrid graphics situation on Linux is getting untenable [15:19] Was Unity the right choice or will Ubuntu suffer from ditching Gnome 3? [15:21] Hard to say, actually. [15:22] In my opinion Ubuntu will have to fork Gnome sooner or later or replace it with something else. [15:22] True. [15:22] Unity in fact *is* built on top of Gnome 3. [15:22] Yes, I am aware of that. [15:22] But Unity and Shell differ in many areas. [15:22] But, I think Gnome 3 will be the choice for desktops. [15:22] Ubuntu however has it made for tablets. [15:23] Bull... RedBull :P [15:23] What part? [15:23] Gnome on desktops? [15:24] Or ubuntu on tablets? [15:24] Belive me, both Unity (as in regular Ubuntu, 13.04) and Gnome Shell suck on a touchscreen. [15:24] Yes, but I find unity sucks a little less. [15:24] Because the dash is always present. [15:24] Gnome 3, more finger work. [15:24] Well, in Shell "Preview" button is always present. [15:25] Unity is Gnome 3 too. [15:25] Yeah, at the top left corner... than look down, then press etc. [15:25] I don't get your point. [15:25] The way the layout is. :D [15:25] You meant Gnome Shell? [15:25] The defaults. [15:25] Yes gnome shell [15:25] Well. Unity is a classic desktop actually. [15:26] You like it as a desktop? [15:26] Sure. [15:26] Moreover, I think it was a step in right direction :) [15:26] I do too, but I prefer gnome-shell after using it for a while. [15:26] Oh, it was. [15:26] Well, both was. [15:26] Much better than gnome 2. [15:26] But... [15:26] I like gnome-shell too. [15:26] But what? [15:27] Man, I waited more than 10 years for this :D [15:27] Linux got its own desktop! [15:27] For this conversation? [15:27] Me too [15:27] lol [15:27] :P [15:27] Yes! [15:27] No, for true Linux Desktop. [15:27] It really feels like it. :) [15:27] It's not a copy of MS or Mac... [15:27] We're Linux. [15:27] :) [15:27] Not FVWM with bunch of crappy athena widget apps, not KDE which immitates Windows 98 not Another OS X WM. [15:28] KDE... [15:28] (Actually, Unity resembles OS X in some areas, but who cares ) [15:28] Broken. [15:29] Perpetually. [15:29] Well, KDE1 was nice. [15:29] 4... 4... terrible. [15:29] Terrible. [15:29] That's another thing [15:29] With Unity now [15:29] I think is the time to get rid of the Kubuntu line. [15:30] Why? [15:30] Because people who want KDE know how to get it anyways. [15:30] Unity should be Ubuntu and Ubuntu should be Unity. [15:30] Hence the name, I belive. [15:30] hah [15:31] One thing that's always been a blessing and a curse at the same time is the sheer amount of distsos. [15:31] distros.. [15:31] So much wasted time on the same thing really. [15:31] This is only a matter of time. [15:32] Ubuntu should just be Ubuntu... desktop/tablet/Server. [15:32] Makes it simple. [15:34] If it comes about me, Ubuntu lacks two things. [15:34] 1. Fonts and LibreOffice templates which actually look good. [15:35] 2. Avahi integration for local network services discovery. [15:36] Yes, especially #1. [15:37] Actually the whole UI in libreoffice needs an overhaul but that's another story. [15:37] Well, I agree. [15:37] Sometimes when I look at it it reminds me of Ancient Egypt :D [15:37] I don't know why. [15:38] hahahaha [15:38] Yeah, it's sad actually. [15:38] Probably this UI design was found among hieroglyphs in Gisa :D [15:38] You know when you're all excited to introduce a friend to Linux... and they ask "well what about work? documents and spreadsheets?" [15:38] Then you fire up that damn ugly thing [15:38] Wizard: haha maybe. [15:39] Even Google Docs offers more. [15:39] lol... it even looks better. [15:39] Anyways, that's the end of my lunch break... [15:39] Back to work, yay. [15:40] And it is some kind of javascript abomination. [15:40] see ya [15:40] Bye ;P [15:40] I hope we won't ba banned from here for this small chat. === Adran is now known as The_Doctor === The_Doctor is now known as Adran