| phillw | knome: I thought the xubuntu session was today? | 00:55 |
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| phillw | (well, yesterday for me ... 14th ) | 00:56 |
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| jibel | good morning | 07:36 |
| knome | phillw, we pulled our sessions out of the "real" UDS schedule to be able to keep them at 20UTC. | 08:49 |
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| balloons | knome, interesting :-) So it's today at 2000 UTC for xubuntu meeting? | 12:00 |
| knome | balloons, today as well. we had the first one yesterday; https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2013-May/008904.html | 12:08 |
| balloons | ahh :-) | 12:08 |
| smartboyhw | Hey balloons:) | 12:12 |
| smartboyhw | balloons, phillw: What did you guys talk about in the Lubuntu session? | 12:13 |
| phillw | smartboyhw watch the session :) http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21754/community-s-lubuntu-work-items/ | 12:14 |
| balloons | planned for the cycle | 12:14 |
| balloons | mostly just Julien detailing his thoughts | 12:14 |
| phillw | balloons: who is / are QA / release manager(s) for kubuntu? I can't see them listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/WhoWeAre | 12:20 |
| balloons | scottk | 12:21 |
| knome | is that page something i should (have) know(n) about? | 12:24 |
| balloons | knome, that page is something noskcaj started | 12:38 |
| balloons | in an effort to learn who everyone was :-) | 12:38 |
| knome | okay | 12:38 |
| knome | i just updated the main QATeam wikipage a bit | 12:38 |
| knome | mostly (markup) formatting | 12:38 |
| balloons | awesome.. always happy to have updates :-) | 12:39 |
| phillw | balloons: I think https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/WhoWeAre should have a bit of prominence so that new comers can quickly find their flavor leads :) | 12:42 |
| balloons | phillw, well we have to all meet as leads.. I think we can discuss it then :-) | 12:42 |
| balloons | I agree the detail should be somewhere.. but buy-in from everyone has to be there so it stays reasonably up to date | 12:43 |
| balloons | and of course, I don't like listing people's contact info without them knowing :-) | 12:43 |
| phillw | balloons: well, elfy (QA guy from xubuntu) asked for some details, hopefully he will also update the page with his details :) | 12:56 |
| balloons | :-) | 12:56 |
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| pitti | balloons: can you please move the "Automating the Language Pack refresh process" someplace else? seems I'm a key person in both that and the power mgmt one | 13:55 |
| pitti | balloons: yesterday would have been fine, but it got moved | 13:56 |
| pitti | any time after lunch break WFM, or tomorrow | 13:56 |
| balloons | pitti, ok, let me go look | 13:58 |
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| balloons | nice everything is locked.. it might take someone with more power than me :-) | 14:01 |
| balloons | pitti, I'm afraid I can't move it ^^ | 14:02 |
| pitti | balloons: ah, too bad; thanks for trying, though | 14:05 |
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| balloons | pitti, I'll start your session for upstream testing happening in 14 | 14:47 |
| smartboyhw_ | pitti, query/private message? | 14:48 |
| pitti | smartboyhw_: sure (but I'm in sessions) | 14:55 |
| pitti | balloons: thanks; I'll be done with server testing in a bit | 14:55 |
| pitti | balloons: can you PM me the URL? | 14:55 |
| balloons | for eveyone who wants to follow along on status for quality community stuff: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/group/topic-s-community-quality.html | 14:57 |
| smartboyhw_ | balloons: Why there is no me?! | 14:59 |
| balloons | smartboyhw_, add yourself to any blueprint you wish | 14:59 |
| balloons | seriously :-) Even if you couldn't make it to the talk session, you can still help out :-) | 15:00 |
| balloons | I'm going to send that list to everyone on the mailing list so they know.. Anything you find interesting, join in! | 15:00 |
| smartboyhw_ | balloons: I might do another classroom session… Any ideas? | 15:02 |
| balloons | you can't hardly have a bad session | 15:02 |
| balloons | there was a lot of demand for bug type sessions :-) | 15:02 |
| balloons | and as always, 'how to test X' | 15:02 |
| balloons | not literally x, lol, but 'how to test <insert package>' | 15:03 |
| smartboyhw_ | balloons: How to test MIR or Unity (or flavours?) | 15:03 |
| balloons | all excellent ideas | 15:04 |
| balloons | mir would get a ton of people interested | 15:04 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: probably "How to use the QA Trackers"? LOL | 15:07 |
| balloons | never a bad idea | 15:07 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: Meh probably another testdrive session for new testers… | 15:11 |
| balloons | have a session on testdrive hacking :-) | 15:12 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: That's Noskcaj's job:P | 15:13 |
| balloons | smartboyhw, lol | 15:20 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: Damn I'm running out of ideas | 15:21 |
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| smartboyhw | balloons: You are ignoring me:( | 15:36 |
| balloons | smartboyhw, I'm doing video conversations all day, you know that :-) | 15:36 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: … Give me three suggestions (that I will be good at talking about) :P | 15:47 |
| * elfy almost commented then ... ;) | 15:49 | |
| smartboyhw | elfy: Please do:P | 15:50 |
| elfy | wouldn't be ontopic for the channel :) | 15:50 |
| smartboyhw | elfy: Query? | 15:50 |
| balloons | elfy, lololololololololol | 15:51 |
| smartboyhw | And we do sometimes go ot | 15:51 |
| smartboyhw | lolololololololololololol | 15:51 |
| balloons | smartboyhw, talk about testing tools, talk about hacking on something, talk about testing images | 15:51 |
| knome | kids, stop flooding. :) | 15:51 |
| balloons | talk about contributing a testcase | 15:51 |
| smartboyhw | knome: Meh | 15:51 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: Images then | 15:51 |
| balloons | smartboyhw, sounds excellent | 15:52 |
| elfy | knome: taps - always stuck on they are | 15:52 |
| knome | talk about testing and making sure testcases are up-to-date and accurate | 15:52 |
| smartboyhw | ballooons: OK… | 15:52 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: ^ | 15:52 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: Add that workitem for me in blueprint please, I need to sleep | 15:53 |
| balloons | smartboyhw, sure thing | 15:53 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: Thx:) GN | 15:53 |
| elfy | did I amuse you balloons ? | 15:54 |
| balloons | elfy, very much so | 15:54 |
| elfy | glad to be back and of service :) | 15:54 |
| balloons | :-) | 15:54 |
| balloons | I'm looking for blueprints documentation | 15:55 |
| * knome waves the whip - better be... | 15:55 | |
| balloons | how they work, etc.. I feel like I've confused everyone in asking them to take part | 15:55 |
| knome | heh. | 15:55 |
| knome | what would you like the docs to say? | 15:55 |
| knome | for me personally the work items stuff is pretty natural once you've used 5 mins in learning it | 15:56 |
| knome | or a min really | 15:56 |
| elfy | knome: lol | 15:56 |
| elfy | balloons: is there a contact detail for scottk anywhere? | 15:57 |
| elfy | that you know of | 15:57 |
| knome | elfy, /msg ScottK | 15:57 |
| knome | elfy, or any at https://launchpad.net/~kitterman | 15:57 |
| elfy | thanks knome | 15:57 |
| knome | np | 15:57 |
| balloons | knome, I agree.. but in this virtual world, it gets confusing for people I think | 15:58 |
| balloons | @ physical UDS it's a bit more straightforward | 15:58 |
| meetingology | balloons: Error: "physical" is not a valid command. | 15:58 |
| knome | haha! | 15:58 |
| balloons | ty meetingology | 15:58 |
| knome | the irony.. | 15:58 |
| balloons | rofl | 15:58 |
| knome | i wonder if that is the official canonical position about UDS :P | 15:59 |
| knome | i don't know what the problem is really. you had to register your attending to the blueprints even in IRL UDS's to even have the possibility of sessions not overlapping too much | 16:00 |
| knome | the only thing that i think is somewhat misleading is some sessions not having a LP blueprint... | 16:00 |
| knome | elfy, you might want to check out this session: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21794/semiannual-release-schedule-review/ | 16:04 |
| knome | elfy, register at: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/attend_meeting/21794/ | 16:04 |
| * knome puts the community roundtable on the background | 16:05 | |
| * elfy does too | 16:05 | |
| elfy | thanks knome - that first one was the one I was trying to find last night but failing at | 16:05 |
| knome | np :) | 16:05 |
| elfy | sent that mail now | 16:06 |
| elfy | marked as attending | 16:07 |
| knome | cool | 16:07 |
| knome | and right, i was about to comment on that | 16:07 |
| elfy | I changed it a 'little' bit | 16:07 |
| knome | heh | 16:07 |
| * knome looks | 16:07 | |
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| SergioMeneses | morning! | 16:21 |
| SergioMeneses | balloons, chilicuil phillw \o | 16:28 |
| balloons | SergioMeneses, aloha | 16:32 |
| balloons | UDS is in high gear | 16:32 |
| SergioMeneses | balloons, I cant be present this morning :S | 16:32 |
| balloons | no worries | 16:33 |
| * SergioMeneses hugs balloons | 16:34 | |
| chilicuil | SergioMeneses: good morning =) | 16:48 |
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| pitti | jibel: what does that want to tell me? | 18:37 |
| pitti | $ sudo bin/otto -i ~/download/ubuntu/saucy-desktop-amd64.iso start | 18:37 |
| pitti | usage: otto [-h] [-d] {create,destroy,start,stop,help} ... | 18:37 |
| pitti | otto: error: argument cmd_name: invalid choice: '/home/martin/download/ubuntu/saucy-desktop-amd64.iso' (choose from 'create', 'destroy', 'start', 'stop', 'help') | 18:37 |
| pitti | oh, obviously that I can't read --help output, sorry | 18:37 |
| pitti | jibel: nice warning about g-session already running | 18:38 |
| jibel | pitti, this is the default error format of argparse, I haven't read its doc for a while, I'll see if it can be made more human readable. | 18:48 |
| pitti | jibel: nah, I just put the -d before the start | 18:48 |
| pitti | jibel: as soon as IRC lets me go, I'll try this | 18:49 |
| pitti | jibel: awesome! | 18:58 |
| pitti | jibel: that works really nicely | 18:58 |
| pitti | jibel: one question, why does it use bsdtar and unsquashfs instead of simply loop-mounting the iso? is that because of the loop device leaks? | 19:01 |
| pitti | jibel: I have an idea about that (but will try tomorrow) | 19:02 |
| pitti | that would avoid having to copy the .squashfs file to /var/cache/otto/ | 19:04 |
| jibel | pitti, good to know :) yes, it's to avoid loop-mounting the files not really the device leak, essentially a matter of taste | 19:04 |
| pitti | especially on smaller/slower devices (like the n7), copying the extra .8 GB around is noticeable | 19:05 |
| pitti | so I'm wondering if (recursive) loop-mounting would be bad in any way | 19:05 |
| pitti | jibel: but anyway, details (for tomorrow) | 19:05 |
| pitti | jibel: it's magic! | 19:05 |
| pitti | I even see plymouth | 19:06 |
| jibel | pitti, added you to https://launchpad.net/~otto-dev if you want push fixes during the night ;) | 19:06 |
| pitti | shutdown doesn't work in multiiple ways, but again, details | 19:06 |
| pitti | jibel: well, I think I'll go for MPs at first | 19:06 |
| pitti | jibel: I'm somewhat allergic to running commands through shell (subprocess.getstatusoutput and the like), but I don't want to trample over your code | 19:07 |
| pitti | jibel: so, big thanks for this, this is a really nice and quick way to test something on an iso with full hw access | 19:07 |
| * pitti donne une accolade à jibel | 19:08 | |
| * jibel donne en retour une accolade à pitti :) | 19:08 | |
| jibel | pitti, glad you like it, but again it's only a couple of days of coding so any improvement is welcome | 19:09 |
| pitti | jibel: would you like me to investigate the double loop-mount approach, or is that something you already tried and rejected? | 19:10 |
| jibel | pitti, of course you can, I'm on the customization of the target container and tomorrow I'll be working on collecting log files during a run | 19:11 |
| pitti | jibel: great, so I'll play around with that tomorrow morning, before UDS | 19:16 |
| * pitti waves good night | 19:16 | |
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| phillw | balloons: yay! we have a fix for Lubuntu Software Center :D | 21:26 |
| balloons | woot | 21:30 |
| phillw | yup, Jorg worked out the error (LSC worked fine when installed on xubuntu) and tracked it back from there. Fantastic work from a guy who came onto the lubuntu facebook account not more than 48 hours earlier to ask wht LSC was under threat :D | 21:39 |
| phillw | elfy: by the way, if xubuntu want a low resource GUI for software center, LSC works fine... you may want to re-brand it though :D | 21:41 |
| elfy | thanks for letting me know | 21:42 |
| elfy | I think we started looking at that at one point - but then I went awol | 21:42 |
| Noskcaj | phillw, you could always rename it "light software centre" | 21:43 |
| * SergioMeneses is back | 21:43 | |
| phillw | elfy: stephen and his friend did a lot of work on getting up and running. But, as happens, they have moved on which left LSC facing being abandonware as my attempts to secure a competent python programmer failed. Then, at the last hour... one dropped by... You really cannot make this sort of story up, as no one would believe you :D | 21:44 |
| elfy | :) | 21:45 |
| phillw | Noskcaj: I'm sure that Julien would have no objections to that if xubuntu want to include it. | 21:45 |
| phillw | two teams using it would increase the chances of always having an active maintainer (or two!). | 21:46 |
| knome | phillw, i assume that would come with the maintaining burden.. | 21:48 |
| SergioMeneses | only two maintainer? | 21:52 |
| phillw | knome: it would mean having someone familiar with python available should Jorg leave. | 21:52 |
| knome | my brain converts that to maintaining burden | 21:52 |
| phillw | knome: okies. I was just a thought :) | 21:53 |
| phillw | *It* | 21:53 |
| knome | hihi, what a typo | 21:53 |
| phillw | memo to self... do not try to type when pouring out a glass of wine :D | 21:54 |
| knome | at the same time? wow... :) | 21:54 |
| SergioMeneses | lol | 21:55 |
| phillw | knome: anyways, the guy said it worked fine when installed in xubuntu, but not as default in lubuntu. That allowed him to track down the bug :D Have a look at it in xubuntu and see if it would fit in with your existing systems for installing / removing stuff via GUI without using synaptic package manager | 21:57 |
| knome | well we're using USC right now | 21:58 |
| knome | it's not perfect, but at least we're not maintaining it.. | 21:58 |
| phillw | knome: USC is pretty heavy on resources, too much so for lubuntu to use. | 21:58 |
| knome | i see your point, and agree. i've purged USC myself.. | 21:59 |
| phillw | give LSC a try, you may even find it tollerable... I know we on here tend to use command line, but the users do not :D | 22:00 |
| phillw | knome: btw, what games does xubuntu ship with as default? | 22:04 |
| knome | phillw, not many... i can't name them, but look at the seed :) | 22:06 |
| phillw | I do keep meaning to bookmark where the seeds are.... link, please? :) | 22:07 |
| knome | i haven't got it bookmarked either :P | 22:08 |
| Noskcaj | phillw, soduko and minesweeper | 22:08 |
| Noskcaj | maybe just minesweeper | 22:08 |
| phillw | lol | 22:08 |
| knome | both | 22:09 |
| knome | and probably one more | 22:09 |
| Noskcaj | knome, no, just those two. | 22:09 |
| knome | okay | 22:09 |
| knome | i remember we dropped some before we changed to a USB sized ISO to keep under the limit | 22:10 |
| phillw | knome: so, lubuntu is once alone... the only flavour on a CD :/ It's getting lonely out here in space :D | 22:15 |
| Noskcaj | phillw, netboot is still a cd sized image ;) | 22:16 |
| Noskcaj | i'm off to school, bye | 22:16 |
| phillw | knome: do you have a link to your meeting last night? I understand it was not help via vUDS | 22:17 |
| knome | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2013-May/008904.html | 22:17 |
| knome | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2013-May/008906.html | 22:17 |
| knome | for yesterday and today | 22:17 |
| phillw | thanks! | 22:22 |
| phillw | balloons: when you get chance, I cannot add in http://pastebin.com/2Fs1FzFZ as a comment on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfy_GxKHL0M&feature=youtu.be ? Am I using the wrong link, should it be linked to http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21754/community-s-lubuntu-work-items/ and if so, can people view the etherpad without having to sign up? | 22:52 |
| knome | phillw, they can't, they need to be in the etherpad users group | 22:52 |
| phillw | knome: hmm, is there a way to add a pastebin to a you-tube video? | 22:53 |
| knome | phillw, i imagine you can always edit the description of the video if you're the posted | 22:54 |
| knome | *poster | 22:54 |
| knome | or you should be able to comment once you log in to youtube/google | 22:54 |
| phillw | I can comment, but it refuses to allow me to add the link to pastebin area... | 22:55 |
| knome | weird | 22:55 |
| knome | how are you trying to add it? | 22:55 |
| knome | as a html tag or just the address as plaintext? | 22:55 |
| phillw | I have an you-tube account. I tried to add it as html | 22:56 |
| knome | try as plaintext | 22:56 |
| knome | i think youtube converts urls to links automatically | 22:56 |
| phillw | knome: it seems I have cookie problem.... switching now to a REAL browser... Ffox. There are times when Chromium REALLY gets my goat up! | 23:00 |
| knome | :) | 23:00 |
| phillw | may the good Lord protect the team about to switch to chromium as their default... lubuntu are heading in the other direction now that FFox has been put on a diet! | 23:02 |
| phillw | he he... launching FFox and using my gmail address caused it to request the 6 digit code sent to my mobile (cell) phone.... Gotta love the guys who look after my email account! | 23:05 |
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