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| === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | Improving QA for seeded server packages | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21806/servercloud-s-seeded-qa-workflow/ | ||
| Daviey | Who is here for the Server QA session? | 13:55 |
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| pitti | jamespage: is there a hangout slot for me for QA for server seeded pkgs? | 13:58 |
| jamespage | pitti, yes | 13:58 |
| jamespage | pm'ed | 13:59 |
| jibel | pitti, jamespage do you need me too in the hangout? | 13:59 |
| Daviey | thanks jamespage | 13:59 |
| jamespage | jibel, please | 13:59 |
| jibel | joining | 14:00 |
| zul | am i in the right channel? | 14:02 |
| jamespage | you are | 14:03 |
| pitti | Daviey is really hard to understand, is that just me? | 14:04 |
| pitti | (stuttering sound) | 14:04 |
| pitti | other folks sound fine | 14:04 |
| rbasak | Stream is now live. | 14:05 |
| rbasak | Daviey: please announce that the stream is live and give us a chance to join before you start? Otherwise we always miss the first minute. | 14:06 |
| Daviey | rbasak: Ok, we started 3 mins late as is. But ok | 14:06 |
| rbasak | Daviey: it's even worse if it's starting late, because then nobody knows when the start actually is in order to refresh the stream page. | 14:07 |
| rbasak | (when it says the stream is about to start, it actually doesn't work until the user refreshes the page) | 14:07 |
| Daviey | pitti: My internal mic in't very good. Using external now | 14:08 |
| Daviey | rbasak: ugh, i thought it auto refreshed | 14:08 |
| rbasak | Daviey: yeah. It doesn't. AIUI, I'm not the only one. | 14:09 |
| Daviey | rbasak: ok, thanks. | 14:10 |
| rbasak | Am I the only one struggling to hear pitti? He sounds very muffled. | 14:11 |
| Daviey | rbasak: he does indeed. | 14:12 |
| Daviey | not much we can do now. | 14:12 |
| mahmoh | rbasak: I'm with you, he sounds distant | 14:13 |
| rbasak | For multi-node, is dep8 in scope? | 14:14 |
| zul | if you have a question can prefix QUESTION before it thanks | 14:15 |
| pitti | rbasak: sorry, I have this problem all the time (that and having a terrible lag) | 14:16 |
| pitti | rbasak: multi-node> not really now; you can of course set up containers in your test if you need to, but that might be too limited | 14:16 |
| jamespage | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/qa-regression-testing/master/files/head:/scripts/ | 14:17 |
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| rbasak | I'm sorry, I can't hear pitti. My problem was that both times I tried to write dep8 tests in the last cycle, I couldn't find documentation for this workflow, which I feel is essential to get us writing more tests. | 14:29 |
| zul | im good | 14:29 |
| Daviey | rbasak: yolanda is bit of an expert on dep8 now. She might be able to offer some direction outside this. | 14:30 |
| rbasak | I also found and filed bug 1175557 as an example of my struggle in writing these tests. | 14:31 |
| udsbotu | Ubuntu bug 1175557 in autopkgtest (Ubuntu) "adt-run fulfills dependencies with --built-tree contrary to the manpage" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1175557 | 14:31 |
| jamespage | rbasak, pitti indicated that these use cases are already covered - docs and offline ping to resolve | 14:31 |
| yolanda | rbasak, i have a set of slides that can be useful | 14:31 |
| yolanda | i can send you | 14:31 |
| rbasak | Thanks, that'll be useful. | 14:31 |
| pitti | rbasak: you probably want --no-built-binaries for that | 14:34 |
| pitti | rbasak: but the wrapper scripts (run-adt-test) already DTRT there | 14:34 |
| rbasak | pitti: I am looking at adt-run(1) and I still don't understand it. Some documented examples for my workflow would be nice :) | 14:36 |
| rbasak | plars: could we perhaps standardize on test names for this? | 14:38 |
| rbasak | --help tests could just be called smoke-help, for example, and then we could easily analyze coverage quality | 14:38 |
| Daviey | rbasak: well, --help doesn't /always/ make sense.. like sbuild it would probably suck for, as it bounces you to manpage | 14:40 |
| rbasak | pitti: can I suggest that you type in here? Your mike is really that bad - sorry. | 14:40 |
| pitti | well, the test names should certainly make sense | 14:40 |
| pitti | not sure whether we need a global list of test names | 14:40 |
| rbasak | We could recommend test names for certain types of test | 14:40 |
| pitti | argh, put the mike into the wrong plug | 14:40 |
| pitti | I hope it'll be better now | 14:41 |
| rbasak | I called my facter test that just ran facter and checks one result "smoke" | 14:41 |
| rbasak | (yet to be uploaded) | 14:41 |
| rbasak | Daviey: +1 | 14:42 |
| rbasak | details can be sorted out :) | 14:42 |
| rbasak | pitti: much better. Thanks! | 14:43 |
| rbasak | (apart from the dropouts :-/ | 14:43 |
| rbasak | How much benefit would we get from doing this more than once per cycle? | 14:49 |
| rbasak | It would be nice to see some focus on writing dep8 tests at the same time as resolving bugs which might have been detected by them. | 14:50 |
| pitti | yes, this should be a permanent process of course | 14:52 |
| rbasak | That makes sense. | 14:54 |
| rbasak | We can encourage it for server package fixes though, right? | 14:54 |
| rbasak | (not that we're not already) | 14:54 |
| Daviey | rbasak: sure | 14:54 |
| Daviey | encourage.. where possible | 14:54 |
| jamespage | any other questions? | 14:54 |
| jamespage | ... | 14:55 |
| jamespage | .. | 14:55 |
| jamespage | . | 14:55 |
| === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | fastpath installer work for 13.10 | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21833/servercloud-s-fastpath-install/ | ||
| Daviey | Who is here for the fast path install session ? | 15:05 |
| rbasak | o/ | 15:06 |
| Daviey | rbasak: wanna join the inner circle? | 15:06 |
| Daviey | starting now | 15:06 |
| * rbasak gets his mike out | 15:07 | |
| Daviey | anyone else here for this session? | 15:09 |
| dbarth | do you have a link to the etherpad with instructions? the one i have here is empty | 15:10 |
| smoser | http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1305-servercloud-r-fastpath-install | 15:10 |
| dbarth | thanks | 15:11 |
| dbarth | cool, seeing it now | 15:11 |
| Daviey | For the person with the biggest headset in the world, it seems to have the most useless mic. :) | 15:15 |
| Daviey | roaksoax: ^ | 15:15 |
| roaksoax | Daviey: lol not the mic... but the configuration of the machine :) | 15:15 |
| Daviey | rbasak: Are you joining? | 15:16 |
| rbasak | Daviey: I can, but I have no comment. | 15:17 |
| bladernr | what kind of speed improvements have you seen with standing up a machine this way vs traditional installation? | 15:18 |
| Daviey | bladernr: will add that question after this. | 15:19 |
| bladernr | Daviey: thank, it's not necessarily topical, just a curiostiy | 15:20 |
| stokachu_uds | i can see it | 15:21 |
| Daviey | stokachu_uds: uh? | 15:22 |
| bladernr | wow, awesome :) | 15:23 |
| stokachu_uds | what are you verifying | 15:24 |
| Daviey | stokachu_uds: I'm struggling to fit your comments around context | 15:25 |
| stokachu_uds | sorry im broken | 15:26 |
| dbarth | smoser: would you consider an image format similar to the binary system image updates being worked on on the client side? | 15:29 |
| dbarth | or would that be duplicating the cloud image scheme? | 15:29 |
| smoser | link? | 15:30 |
| dbarth | Daviey: right | 15:31 |
| dbarth | ok | 15:33 |
| dbarth | right, this may not make that much sense after all | 15:33 |
| Daviey | dbarth: thanks :) | 15:33 |
| Daviey | any other qUEsTIONS? | 15:33 |
| Daviey | err | 15:33 |
| Daviey | that wasn't 3l33t case | 15:33 |
| smoser | daviey is always L33t | 15:33 |
| Daviey | shall we end then? | 15:35 |
| Daviey | .. | 15:35 |
| Daviey | . | 15:35 |
| smoser | end | 15:36 |
| Daviey | thanks all | 15:37 |
| === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | OpenStack Charm work for Saucy/Havana | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21747/servercloud-s-openstack-charms/ | ||
| Daviey | anyone else here for the saucy/havana charm session here? | 16:05 |
| Daviey | strating now. | 16:05 |
| * wedgwood is | 16:06 | |
| wedgwood | adam_g: that's been created lp:charm-helpers | 16:11 |
| jamespage | https://launchpad.net/charm-helpers | 16:11 |
| wedgwood | sorry had to drop out - getting pulled into another task | 16:17 |
| jamespage | adam_g, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/OpenStackHA | 16:20 |
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| === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/servercloud-1/ - http://ubottu.com/udslog/%23ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 | ||
| === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | Investigate alternatives to mysql | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21746/servercloud-s-database-alternatives/ | ||
| Daviey | Anyone here for mysql session? | 17:59 |
| mattgriffin | Daviey: aye | 18:00 |
| stewart | Daviey, yes, hi! | 18:00 |
| Daviey | mattgriffin / stewart: hey, can you introduce yourselves ? | 18:00 |
| Daviey | (starting shortly) | 18:01 |
| stewart | Daviey, sure. is there going to be a hangout or just IRC? | 18:01 |
| Daviey | stewart: there is indeed a hangout. | 18:02 |
| Daviey | stewart: please introduce yourself :) | 18:02 |
| * stewart is Stewart Smith, Director of Software Architecture at Percona. | 18:02 | |
| Daviey | stewart / mattgriffi: you have invites :) | 18:03 |
| jdstrand | fyi, http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21746/servercloud-s-database-alternatives/ does not have a video feed | 18:03 |
| * mattgriffin is Matt Griffin, Director of Product Management at Percona. | 18:03 | |
| Daviey | jdstrand: not quitr started, still trying to get the inner cricle people reorganised | 18:03 |
| SpamapS | o/ | 18:03 |
| zul | jdstrand: thats ok you dont want to see my ugly face | 18:03 |
| jdstrand | ok | 18:03 |
| jdstrand | hehe | 18:03 |
| Daviey | we are online now | 18:05 |
| * stewart joined into Hangout | 18:06 | |
| stewart | everyone has a cool title except me :) | 18:06 |
| adam_g | is there a direct URL for the video feed? not showing up for me embedded | 18:06 |
| yolanda | also not to me | 18:06 |
| * jdstrand either | 18:06 | |
| ptl | I can't seem to find anything about Percona Server license. Is it completely GPL? | 18:07 |
| jdstrand | ah, there it is | 18:07 |
| yolanda | works now | 18:07 |
| Daviey | jdstrand: refresh? | 18:07 |
| Daviey | super | 18:07 |
| stewart | ptl, yes, 100% GPL | 18:09 |
| ptl | stewart: thanks | 18:10 |
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| jdstrand | mysql-cluster was yes | 18:15 |
| jdstrand | it did fall into disrepair | 18:15 |
| jdstrand | or rather, dis-maintained :) | 18:15 |
| * jdstrand is talking about its state in Ubuntu, not upstream | 18:16 | |
| Daviey | SpamapS: I wanted to work on Openstack but the entry barier of contrib agreement.. :P | 18:18 |
| stewart | ptl, (if you could point me to where you were looking for license, i'd love to ensure it's clearer so that a future person like you finds it easily) | 18:19 |
| Daviey | brb | 18:24 |
| smoser | this live event is over | 18:24 |
| smoser | thanks for watching | 18:24 |
| Daviey | wait | 18:24 |
| smoser | Daviey, ^ | 18:24 |
| Daviey | zul: explain | 18:24 |
| rbasak | http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1305-servercloud-s-database-alternatives | 18:25 |
| zul | Daviey: uh? | 18:25 |
| roaksoax | Daviey: the fid died | 18:25 |
| roaksoax | feed | 18:25 |
| roaksoax | zul: ^^ | 18:25 |
| yolanda | video lost | 18:25 |
| jdstrand | yep. reload pulls up the saved feed, not the live one | 18:25 |
| smoser | boo | 18:25 |
| ptl | stewart: I went there -> http://www.percona.com/software/percona-server -> couldn't find mention of 'license' in the page, then I went to 'Frequently Asked Questions' and couldn't find it either | 18:25 |
| stewart | ptl, thanks - i'll go and get someone to fix that | 18:26 |
| ptl | thanks | 18:26 |
| zul | feed died | 18:26 |
| stewart | rbasak, got this when trying to get to the pad "Either you have not been granted access to this resource or your entitlement has timed out. Please try again." | 18:26 |
| rbasak | stewart: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5668472/ are the questions I asked on the pad | 18:27 |
| Daviey | back online | 18:27 |
| Daviey | refresh | 18:27 |
| rbasak | stewart: I think you may need to go to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad and add yourself as a member. | 18:28 |
| Daviey | Apologies for the interuption, the hangout ended abruptly - and we had to restart. | 18:28 |
| * stewart trying... | 18:30 | |
| rbasak | zul: are you proposing to drop mysql from main at some point? S? T? Or beyond that? | 18:33 |
| jdstrand | erf, the feed!! | 18:33 |
| rbasak | mdeslaur: any implications for multiple upstreams in main? | 18:34 |
| jdstrand | "We'll be right back" | 18:34 |
| yolanda | same to me | 18:34 |
| jamespage | jdstrand, snap | 18:34 |
| rbasak | Daviey: ^^ | 18:34 |
| jdstrand | it's back now | 18:34 |
| zul | rbasak: up coming lts mysql in universe percona or mariadb in main | 18:34 |
| mdeslaur | rbasak: yes, that would put considerable strain on the security team. Updating mysql is a big process, we wouldn't want to have to do that for more than one of those. | 18:34 |
| mdeslaur | rbasak: we need to choose and support one. | 18:35 |
| rbasak | OK, got it and noted in the pad. Thanks. | 18:35 |
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| mdeslaur | rbasak: I think getting a microrelease exception is probably a no-brainer, since we've been pretty much updating versions for security updates anyway | 18:38 |
| mdeslaur | so it shouldn't be hard to get | 18:38 |
| SpamapS | last LTS has mysql 5.5 so should be ok for 14.04 | 18:41 |
| jamespage | SpamapS, +1 | 18:43 |
| jamespage | (no main switches this cycle) | 18:43 |
| rbasak | Daviey: would you mind confirming the work items I proposed and finding people willing to drive each one, please? | 18:47 |
| rbasak | Looks like you're on it :) | 18:47 |
| Daviey | rbasak: thanks :) | 18:48 |
| Daviey | jamespage: wanna join inner circle? | 18:49 |
| jamespage | Daviey, no - I'm good (you only have 10 mins left) | 18:49 |
| Daviey | ta | 18:49 |
| AlanBell | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5668568/ is the output of apt-rdepends --reverse mysql-server | 18:51 |
| jdstrand | fyi, we had mysql-cluster-7.0 at one point (it is in universe in 10.04), but it was dropped prior to 12.04 | 18:52 |
| Daviey | AlanBell: thanks, please add it to the etherpad? | 18:52 |
| rbasak | We have seven minutes left. Can we get some names against the work items, please? | 18:52 |
| SpamapS | rbasak: more important that we know "what" than "who" | 18:53 |
| Daviey | stewart: do you have a Launchpad id? | 18:54 |
| rbasak | SpamapS: sure - I'd like to see some down and complete rather than increasing our scope and not having anyone driving anything though. | 18:54 |
| stewart | Daviey, launchpad is "stewart" :) | 18:54 |
| Daviey | easy :) | 18:54 |
| jamespage | Daviey, I don't thing that is a priority | 18:55 |
| mdeslaur | uhm, I didn't volunteer for my microrelease exception | 18:55 |
| jamespage | (mysql-cluster) | 18:55 |
| Daviey | mdeslaur: Oh sorry, i thought above you did | 18:56 |
| * nwl waves | 18:58 | |
| jamespage | hey nwl - just wrapping up on mysql alternatives... | 18:58 |
| ryeng | ok, that looks more like what I thought I heard. :-) | 19:00 |
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| ryeng | yes, please share pain points with us! | 19:01 |
| stewart | thanks all! | 19:02 |
| Daviey | thanks all, | 19:02 |
| rbasak | ryeng: SpamapS is kindly summarising the pain points in the pad. Can you see the pad OK? | 19:02 |
| jamespage | cheerio | 19:02 |
| Daviey | mdeslaur: ^ | 19:02 |
| ryeng | yes | 19:02 |
| Daviey | (Sorry to end abruptly, have another session scheduled) | 19:03 |
| jamespage | Daviey, sageweil and nwl will need the G+ link for the next session | 19:03 |
| mdeslaur | ok, looking at it now | 19:03 |
| scuttlemonkey | should the streaming be up on the /servercloud-s-ceph/ page? | 19:03 |
| Daviey | jamespage: can you pass it to them please? | 19:03 |
| Daviey | jamespage: will be 2 mins | 19:04 |
| jamespage | scuttlemonkey, in a few minutes - do you want to join the g+ as well? | 19:04 |
| scuttlemonkey | happy to if you think it's helpful...doubt I'll have much to say on dev matters though | 19:04 |
| jamespage | scuttlemonkey, sure - well feel free to jump in if you want to. | 19:04 |
| SpamapS | good notes in the pad :) | 19:06 |
| scuttlemonkey | jamespage: fair enough | 19:06 |
| Daviey | Starting shortly | 19:07 |
| Daviey | anyone else need to be in fish bowl | 19:07 |
| Daviey | ? | 19:07 |
| smoser | stream seems paused. | 19:11 |
| smoser | Daviey, at least for me | 19:11 |
| Daviey | smoser: trying here | 19:11 |
| scuttleweb | smoser: seems ok to me, at around 2:00 | 19:11 |
| Daviey | smoser: seems to be working here | 19:12 |
| smoser | yeah, beter now. | 19:12 |
| Daviey | smoser: do join the inner circle if you want | 19:12 |
| Daviey | nwl: Not now, but another time - i'd love to learn how you chaps are going to address the key exchange problem. | 19:16 |
| scuttleweb | "an error occurred" on video stream for anyone else? | 19:18 |
| Daviey | scuttleweb: refresh? | 19:18 |
| scuttleweb | yeah, just kicked it to another window w/ native youtube instead of embed | 19:19 |
| nwl | http://wiki.ceph.com/01Planning/01Roadmap/Schedule | 19:27 |
| dosaboy | what's the state of the ceph-ceploy tool | 19:33 |
| dosaboy | last time I asked we were between mkcephfs and ceph-deploy | 19:33 |
| dosaboy | mkcephfs being "broken" and ceph-deploy-deploy "not ready" | 19:33 |
| dosaboy | ceph-deploy even | 19:33 |
| dosaboy | my mic is broken | 19:33 |
| dosaboy | cool thanks | 19:34 |
| dosaboy | http://ceph.com/docs/master/radosgw/swift/ | 19:44 |
| Daviey | Any other questions? | 19:47 |
| jamespage | any other questions from channel? | 19:47 |
| jamespage | .. | 19:47 |
| jamespage | ... | 19:47 |
| jamespage | ... | 19:47 |
| dosaboy | jamespage: seem to remember you mentioning concerns around dependency on fastcgi module in radosgw at last UDS | 19:48 |
| dosaboy | is that something we should follow up on? | 19:49 |
| jamespage | dosaboy, yeah -we discussed that | 19:49 |
| dosaboy | ah :) | 19:49 |
| dosaboy | my fault for being late | 19:49 |
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