=== schwuk_away is now known as schwuk === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk === francisco is now known as Guest49422 === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | Improving QA for seeded server packages | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21806/servercloud-s-seeded-qa-workflow/ [13:55] Who is here for the Server QA session? [13:58] jamespage: is there a hangout slot for me for QA for server seeded pkgs? [13:58] pitti, yes [13:59] pm'ed [13:59] pitti, jamespage do you need me too in the hangout? [13:59] thanks jamespage [13:59] jibel, please [14:00] joining [14:02] am i in the right channel? [14:03] you are [14:04] Daviey is really hard to understand, is that just me? [14:04] (stuttering sound) [14:04] other folks sound fine [14:05] Stream is now live. [14:06] Daviey: please announce that the stream is live and give us a chance to join before you start? Otherwise we always miss the first minute. [14:06] rbasak: Ok, we started 3 mins late as is. But ok [14:07] Daviey: it's even worse if it's starting late, because then nobody knows when the start actually is in order to refresh the stream page. [14:07] (when it says the stream is about to start, it actually doesn't work until the user refreshes the page) [14:08] pitti: My internal mic in't very good. Using external now [14:08] rbasak: ugh, i thought it auto refreshed [14:09] Daviey: yeah. It doesn't. AIUI, I'm not the only one. [14:10] rbasak: ok, thanks. [14:11] Am I the only one struggling to hear pitti? He sounds very muffled. [14:12] rbasak: he does indeed. [14:12] not much we can do now. [14:13] rbasak: I'm with you, he sounds distant [14:14] For multi-node, is dep8 in scope? [14:15] if you have a question can prefix QUESTION before it thanks [14:16] rbasak: sorry, I have this problem all the time (that and having a terrible lag) [14:16] rbasak: multi-node> not really now; you can of course set up containers in your test if you need to, but that might be too limited [14:17] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/qa-regression-testing/master/files/head:/scripts/ === bladernr` is now known as bladernr [14:29] I'm sorry, I can't hear pitti. My problem was that both times I tried to write dep8 tests in the last cycle, I couldn't find documentation for this workflow, which I feel is essential to get us writing more tests. [14:29] im good [14:30] rbasak: yolanda is bit of an expert on dep8 now. She might be able to offer some direction outside this. [14:31] I also found and filed bug 1175557 as an example of my struggle in writing these tests. [14:31] Ubuntu bug 1175557 in autopkgtest (Ubuntu) "adt-run fulfills dependencies with --built-tree contrary to the manpage" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1175557 [14:31] rbasak, pitti indicated that these use cases are already covered - docs and offline ping to resolve [14:31] rbasak, i have a set of slides that can be useful [14:31] i can send you [14:31] Thanks, that'll be useful. [14:34] rbasak: you probably want --no-built-binaries for that [14:34] rbasak: but the wrapper scripts (run-adt-test) already DTRT there [14:36] pitti: I am looking at adt-run(1) and I still don't understand it. Some documented examples for my workflow would be nice :) [14:38] plars: could we perhaps standardize on test names for this? [14:38] --help tests could just be called smoke-help, for example, and then we could easily analyze coverage quality [14:40] rbasak: well, --help doesn't /always/ make sense.. like sbuild it would probably suck for, as it bounces you to manpage [14:40] pitti: can I suggest that you type in here? Your mike is really that bad - sorry. [14:40] well, the test names should certainly make sense [14:40] not sure whether we need a global list of test names [14:40] We could recommend test names for certain types of test [14:40] argh, put the mike into the wrong plug [14:41] I hope it'll be better now [14:41] I called my facter test that just ran facter and checks one result "smoke" [14:41] (yet to be uploaded) [14:42] Daviey: +1 [14:42] details can be sorted out :) [14:43] pitti: much better. Thanks! [14:43] (apart from the dropouts :-/ [14:49] How much benefit would we get from doing this more than once per cycle? [14:50] It would be nice to see some focus on writing dep8 tests at the same time as resolving bugs which might have been detected by them. [14:52] yes, this should be a permanent process of course [14:54] That makes sense. [14:54] We can encourage it for server package fixes though, right? [14:54] (not that we're not already) [14:54] rbasak: sure [14:54] encourage.. where possible [14:54] any other questions? [14:55] ... [14:55] .. [14:55] . === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | fastpath installer work for 13.10 | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21833/servercloud-s-fastpath-install/ [15:05] Who is here for the fast path install session ? [15:06] o/ [15:06] rbasak: wanna join the inner circle? [15:06] starting now [15:07] * rbasak gets his mike out [15:09] anyone else here for this session? [15:10] do you have a link to the etherpad with instructions? the one i have here is empty [15:10] http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1305-servercloud-r-fastpath-install [15:11] thanks [15:11] cool, seeing it now [15:15] For the person with the biggest headset in the world, it seems to have the most useless mic. :) [15:15] roaksoax: ^ [15:15] Daviey: lol not the mic... but the configuration of the machine :) [15:16] rbasak: Are you joining? [15:17] Daviey: I can, but I have no comment. [15:18] what kind of speed improvements have you seen with standing up a machine this way vs traditional installation? [15:19] bladernr: will add that question after this. [15:20] Daviey: thank, it's not necessarily topical, just a curiostiy [15:21] i can see it [15:22] stokachu_uds: uh? [15:23] wow, awesome :) [15:24] what are you verifying [15:25] stokachu_uds: I'm struggling to fit your comments around context [15:26] sorry im broken [15:29] smoser: would you consider an image format similar to the binary system image updates being worked on on the client side? [15:29] or would that be duplicating the cloud image scheme? [15:30] link? [15:31] Daviey: right [15:33] ok [15:33] right, this may not make that much sense after all [15:33] dbarth: thanks :) [15:33] any other qUEsTIONS? [15:33] err [15:33] that wasn't 3l33t case [15:33] daviey is always L33t [15:35] shall we end then? [15:35] .. [15:35] . [15:36] end [15:37] thanks all === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | OpenStack Charm work for Saucy/Havana | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21747/servercloud-s-openstack-charms/ [16:05] anyone else here for the saucy/havana charm session here? [16:05] strating now. [16:06] * wedgwood is [16:11] adam_g: that's been created lp:charm-helpers [16:11] https://launchpad.net/charm-helpers [16:17] sorry had to drop out - getting pulled into another task [16:20] adam_g, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/OpenStackHA === francisco is now known as Guest53340 === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/servercloud-1/ - http://ubottu.com/udslog/%23ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | Investigate alternatives to mysql | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21746/servercloud-s-database-alternatives/ [17:59] Anyone here for mysql session? [18:00] Daviey: aye [18:00] Daviey, yes, hi! [18:00] mattgriffin / stewart: hey, can you introduce yourselves ? [18:01] (starting shortly) [18:01] Daviey, sure. is there going to be a hangout or just IRC? [18:02] stewart: there is indeed a hangout. [18:02] stewart: please introduce yourself :) [18:02] * stewart is Stewart Smith, Director of Software Architecture at Percona. [18:03] stewart / mattgriffi: you have invites :) [18:03] fyi, http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21746/servercloud-s-database-alternatives/ does not have a video feed [18:03] * mattgriffin is Matt Griffin, Director of Product Management at Percona. [18:03] jdstrand: not quitr started, still trying to get the inner cricle people reorganised [18:03] o/ [18:03] jdstrand: thats ok you dont want to see my ugly face [18:03] ok [18:03] hehe [18:05] we are online now [18:06] * stewart joined into Hangout [18:06] everyone has a cool title except me :) [18:06] is there a direct URL for the video feed? not showing up for me embedded [18:06] also not to me [18:06] * jdstrand either [18:07] I can't seem to find anything about Percona Server license. Is it completely GPL? [18:07] ah, there it is [18:07] works now [18:07] jdstrand: refresh? [18:07] super [18:09] ptl, yes, 100% GPL [18:10] stewart: thanks === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [18:15] mysql-cluster was yes [18:15] it did fall into disrepair [18:15] or rather, dis-maintained :) [18:16] * jdstrand is talking about its state in Ubuntu, not upstream [18:18] SpamapS: I wanted to work on Openstack but the entry barier of contrib agreement.. :P [18:19] ptl, (if you could point me to where you were looking for license, i'd love to ensure it's clearer so that a future person like you finds it easily) [18:24] brb [18:24] this live event is over [18:24] thanks for watching [18:24] wait [18:24] Daviey, ^ [18:24] zul: explain [18:25] http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1305-servercloud-s-database-alternatives [18:25] Daviey: uh? [18:25] Daviey: the fid died [18:25] feed [18:25] zul: ^^ [18:25] video lost [18:25] yep. reload pulls up the saved feed, not the live one [18:25] boo [18:25] stewart: I went there -> http://www.percona.com/software/percona-server -> couldn't find mention of 'license' in the page, then I went to 'Frequently Asked Questions' and couldn't find it either [18:26] ptl, thanks - i'll go and get someone to fix that [18:26] thanks [18:26] feed died [18:26] rbasak, got this when trying to get to the pad "Either you have not been granted access to this resource or your entitlement has timed out. Please try again." [18:27] stewart: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5668472/ are the questions I asked on the pad [18:27] back online [18:27] refresh [18:28] stewart: I think you may need to go to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad and add yourself as a member. [18:28] Apologies for the interuption, the hangout ended abruptly - and we had to restart. [18:30] * stewart trying... [18:33] zul: are you proposing to drop mysql from main at some point? S? T? Or beyond that? [18:33] erf, the feed!! [18:34] mdeslaur: any implications for multiple upstreams in main? [18:34] "We'll be right back" [18:34] same to me [18:34] jdstrand, snap [18:34] Daviey: ^^ [18:34] it's back now [18:34] rbasak: up coming lts mysql in universe percona or mariadb in main [18:34] rbasak: yes, that would put considerable strain on the security team. Updating mysql is a big process, we wouldn't want to have to do that for more than one of those. [18:35] rbasak: we need to choose and support one. [18:35] OK, got it and noted in the pad. Thanks. === sage___ is now known as sageweil [18:38] rbasak: I think getting a microrelease exception is probably a no-brainer, since we've been pretty much updating versions for security updates anyway [18:38] so it shouldn't be hard to get [18:41] last LTS has mysql 5.5 so should be ok for 14.04 [18:43] SpamapS, +1 [18:43] (no main switches this cycle) [18:47] Daviey: would you mind confirming the work items I proposed and finding people willing to drive each one, please? [18:47] Looks like you're on it :) [18:48] rbasak: thanks :) [18:49] jamespage: wanna join inner circle? [18:49] Daviey, no - I'm good (you only have 10 mins left) [18:49] ta [18:51] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5668568/ is the output of apt-rdepends --reverse mysql-server [18:52] fyi, we had mysql-cluster-7.0 at one point (it is in universe in 10.04), but it was dropped prior to 12.04 [18:52] AlanBell: thanks, please add it to the etherpad? [18:52] We have seven minutes left. Can we get some names against the work items, please? [18:53] rbasak: more important that we know "what" than "who" [18:54] stewart: do you have a Launchpad id? [18:54] SpamapS: sure - I'd like to see some down and complete rather than increasing our scope and not having anyone driving anything though. [18:54] Daviey, launchpad is "stewart" :) [18:54] easy :) [18:55] Daviey, I don't thing that is a priority [18:55] uhm, I didn't volunteer for my microrelease exception [18:55] (mysql-cluster) [18:56] mdeslaur: Oh sorry, i thought above you did [18:58] * nwl waves [18:58] hey nwl - just wrapping up on mysql alternatives... [19:00] ok, that looks more like what I thought I heard. :-) === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | Ceph activities for Saucy | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21786/servercloud-s-ceph/ [19:01] yes, please share pain points with us! [19:02] thanks all! [19:02] thanks all, [19:02] ryeng: SpamapS is kindly summarising the pain points in the pad. Can you see the pad OK? [19:02] cheerio [19:02] mdeslaur: ^ [19:02] yes [19:03] (Sorry to end abruptly, have another session scheduled) [19:03] Daviey, sageweil and nwl will need the G+ link for the next session [19:03] ok, looking at it now [19:03] should the streaming be up on the /servercloud-s-ceph/ page? [19:03] jamespage: can you pass it to them please? [19:04] jamespage: will be 2 mins [19:04] scuttlemonkey, in a few minutes - do you want to join the g+ as well? [19:04] happy to if you think it's helpful...doubt I'll have much to say on dev matters though [19:04] scuttlemonkey, sure - well feel free to jump in if you want to. [19:06] good notes in the pad :) [19:06] jamespage: fair enough [19:07] Starting shortly [19:07] anyone else need to be in fish bowl [19:07] ? [19:11] stream seems paused. [19:11] Daviey, at least for me [19:11] smoser: trying here [19:11] smoser: seems ok to me, at around 2:00 [19:12] smoser: seems to be working here [19:12] yeah, beter now. [19:12] smoser: do join the inner circle if you want [19:16] nwl: Not now, but another time - i'd love to learn how you chaps are going to address the key exchange problem. [19:18] "an error occurred" on video stream for anyone else? [19:18] scuttleweb: refresh? [19:19] yeah, just kicked it to another window w/ native youtube instead of embed [19:27] http://wiki.ceph.com/01Planning/01Roadmap/Schedule [19:33] what's the state of the ceph-ceploy tool [19:33] last time I asked we were between mkcephfs and ceph-deploy [19:33] mkcephfs being "broken" and ceph-deploy-deploy "not ready" [19:33] ceph-deploy even [19:33] my mic is broken [19:34] cool thanks [19:44] http://ceph.com/docs/master/radosgw/swift/ [19:47] Any other questions? [19:47] any other questions from channel? [19:47] .. [19:47] ... [19:47] ... [19:48] jamespage: seem to remember you mentioning concerns around dependency on fastcgi module in radosgw at last UDS [19:49] is that something we should follow up on? [19:49] dosaboy, yeah -we discussed that [19:49] ah :) [19:49] my fault for being late === francisco is now known as Guest83331 === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/servercloud-1/ - http://ubottu.com/udslog/%23ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 === wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away