[15:44] <Whiskey`Wonka> [08:44:35] <smartboyhw> Whiskey`Wonka: Can you peep in to #ubuntustudio and ask zequence?
[15:45] <smartboyhw> Yeah my fault
[15:45] <Whiskey`Wonka> zequence: having a virtualbox issue and was told to come here
[15:45] <Whiskey`Wonka> lol
[15:45] <smartboyhw> With -lowlatency
[15:45] <zequence> ok
[15:46] <Whiskey`Wonka> right -lowlatency
[15:46] <zequence> So, what was the issue?
[15:47] <Whiskey`Wonka> using muon to remove vbox and all its packages then reisntall, no kernel modules are made, even whenthe dkms package says installed
[15:47] <Whiskey`Wonka> doing so via apt-get did fix that and make the packages
[15:48] <zequence> Whiskey`Wonka: I don't have any experience with muon, but the way it works should be no different between -generic and -lowlatency. Each have their own headers avilable
[15:49] <zequence> And both kernels are more or less the same kernel (the diff is very small)
[15:49] <zequence> I always install with apt myself, and haven't experienced any problems
[15:49] <smartboyhw> zequence: His CPU was overheating with -generic
[15:49] <zequence> There was a bug with headers at some point though
[15:49] <zequence> Whiskey`Wonka: Which release is this, and which kernel version?
[15:50] <Whiskey`Wonka> zequence: yea -low my cpu fan works, with -gen it does not
[15:50] <Whiskey`Wonka> 3.8.0-19-lowlatency on rearing
[15:51] <zequence> It's very strange that -generic would cause more problems than -lowlatency.
[15:51] <zequence> No problems with headers with that version though, so that should be fine
[15:52] <Whiskey`Wonka> its a ACPI issue causing my fan to not work
[15:52] <zequence> Thing is, -lowlatency is a copy of -generic, and has almost the exact same code
[15:52] <Whiskey`Wonka> i would gladly give any information that i can to help solve that
[15:52] <zequence> And, when it comes to ACPI, I really doubt there are any differences at all
[15:53] <zequence> It's a copy of -generic, but has a couple of configs altered, so of course, the resulting binary is not a 100% match, but the diff is in things like PREEMPT and HZ
[15:55] <Whiskey`Wonka> well i dunno, a clean cold boot with -low will let the cpu fan work and spin up, with -gen it doesnt ever come above the idle speed
[15:55] <zequence> Whiskey`Wonka: Did you monitor temprature?
[15:55] <zequence> -lowlatency should be harder on the CPU (not much, but still), and that might result in higher fan speeds
[15:56] <Whiskey`Wonka> i did but no need, fire up google earth or such and you cna feel it over heating
[16:03] <DarkEra> anyone who has a korg microkey 25 keyboard and knows if it works on linux?
[16:11] <Whiskey`Wonka> zequence: btw its not jsut 'oh thats hot' its 'omg its burning me' and goes into thermal shutdown
[16:14] <zequence> Whiskey`Wonka: I would make a bug report then. Do you have a launchpad account?
[16:14] <Whiskey`Wonka> i do not
[16:14] <kai> test
[16:14] <zequence> Whiskey`Wonka: Here, create one https://launchpad.net/
[16:14] <Whiskey`Wonka> test failed
[16:14] <kai> crap.
[16:14] <Whiskey`Wonka> zequence: okies
[16:15] <Whiskey`Wonka> abort, retry?
[16:15] <zequence> Whiskey`Wonka: Then, boot into the generic kernel, and from the command line do: ubuntu-bug linux
[16:16] <zequence> It's pretty straight forward reporting bugs once you have a launchpad account
[16:16] <Whiskey`Wonka> ah buggers thats going to be a pain
[16:16] <zequence> Only takes a couple of minutes, so I hope your computer will survive that :)
[16:16] <Whiskey`Wonka> changing kernels isnt going to be easy
[16:18] <kai> wanted to check... ub.studio comes with puredata vanilla, not extended, correct?
[16:20] <zequence> kai: Yes, -extended is not packaged yet in Debian (which is where all the multimedia packages come from)
[16:20] <zequence> kai: I will actually be packagin pd-extended for Degian in the not too far future, so it will be avilable hopefully from 13.10 and forwards
[16:21] <zequence> kai: You can get pd-extended from a PPA, ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
[16:21] <kai> z: ok thanks, there are some instructions on pd.info, those should work yes?
[16:21] <zequence> eighthave == the guy who created pd-extended
[16:21] <zequence> I really recommend adding the PPA
[16:21] <kai> ok i will try it
[16:22] <zequence> To do that: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:eighthave/pd-extended
[16:22] <zequence> That will install a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[16:22] <kai> sweet thanks
[16:23] <zequence> kai: Then, to install pd-extended, just do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pd-extended
[17:46] <whitesmoking99> yes
[17:46] <whitesmoking99> w ubuntu!!!
[17:46] <whitesmoking99> such windows
[17:46] <whitesmoking99> ubuntu is better
[17:46] <whitesmoking99> yesssssssss!
[17:49] <DarkEra> ok, that one was very enthusiastic about buntu... lol
[18:10] <holstein> !better
[18:10] <holstein> thats what i would have linked ;)
[18:11] <zequence> I have a friend who whenever he gets excited about something, like a band, he alwyas says "This is the best band in the world!"
[18:11] <zequence> And that happens about once a week or so
[18:11] <DarkEra> lol
[20:26] <thecodeischaos> do tile based window managers work with ubuntu studio well?
[20:26] <thecodeischaos> or if a window manager is stable.. it should work on any linux distro in the same manner
[20:28] <zequence> thecodeischaos: Ubuntu Studio is not DE based. It's more really a set of meta packages, which depend on a selected list of packages that we like to be installed by default
[20:28] <zequence> Added to that, a couple of configuration changes to improve performance
[20:28] <thecodeischaos> what is de?
[20:28] <zequence> user realtime privilege, and swappniess
[20:28] <zequence> Desktop Environmant
[20:29] <zequence> Environment*
[20:29] <thecodeischaos> so are you saying i cant instal other window managers on it?
[20:29] <zequence> Yes, and this is true on any Ubuntu flavor
[20:30] <thecodeischaos> but there are tutorials for changing WM on ubuntu
[20:30] <zequence> thecodeischaos: What is it that you would like to install, exactly?
[20:30] <thecodeischaos> dwm looked pretty good. i wanted to try it
[20:31] <thecodeischaos> or another one that supports tile based windows
[20:31] <zequence> sudo apt-get install dwm
[20:32] <thecodeischaos> ok ill try it
[20:34] <thecodeischaos> ill try it on my mini pc. first i need to install the OS on there
[22:28] <wachin> Hi
[22:28] <wachin> Have a question
[22:30] <wachin> repositories could UbuntuStudio the DrumBurp program, which is very good for Tabs Drum http://whatang.org
[22:40] <zequence> wachin: It needs to be packaged for Debian (it is where most Ubuntu Studio applications are packaged initially)
[22:41] <zequence> wachin: I'll have a look. Maybe I can package it
[22:43] <wachin> I will tried of package it, but not can
[22:43] <wachin> I use Debreate but not working
[22:44] <wachin> I wish there was a program to devianizate that be like Install Creator Free
[22:44] <zequence> wachin: It requires some studying. Not only to create the package, but also how to write changelogs, licensing and most importantly, the debian/rules file for building instructions, etc
[22:45] <wachin> Ok
[22:45] <wachin> Thanks
[22:48] <wachin> The program DrumBurp working fine on Windows, but not on UbuntuStudio 12.04
[22:48] <wachin> I tried in VirtualBox with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and working fine
[22:50] <wachin> I know that this program need , python2.6 or 2.7, python-pygame, phyton-qt4 to working from source code, yes, working fine frome source code
[22:52] <wachin> In UbuntuStudio 12.04 the only way to make working is launch the source code from command line
[22:52] <wachin> python drumburp.py
[22:52] <wachin> otherwise not work
[22:53] <zequence> wachin: I emailed the developer, and told him I was willing to package it
[22:53] <zequence> So, if no one else has done it, should be avilable at around 13.10
[22:54] <wachin> Oh, well
[23:14] <wachin> God Bye
[23:14] <wachin> Thanks