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ahoneybunRiddell: 02:32
ahoneybunScottK: 02:32
ScottK?04:23
MirvRiddell: in plans, yes. lots to do before that but early access to 5.1 would be useful for the people05:41
soeegood morning06:04
smartboyhwGood afternoon!06:20
soeehiho smartboyhw 06:29
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robertknightRiddell: I've been looking into a JS crash in QtWebKit since U. 13.04 that affects 32-bit systems.  I've confirmed the problem is fixed by the patch on https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108991 which is included in QtWebKit 2.3.1 that carewolf tagged recently.  Will it be possible to get libqtwebkit4 updated in U 13.04?  Should I file a bug on Launchpad?09:02
ubottubugs.webkit.org bug 108991 in JavaScriptCore "Crash at JSC::call when loading www.gap.com with JSVALUE32_64 Enabled" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]09:02
robertknightThere is also one other memory corruption issue affecting JS in QWK 2.3.0 which is fixed in 2.3.1.  It supposedly affects gmail.com on some systems.09:03
Riddellgosh,it's a robertknight 09:11
Riddellrobertknight: yeah a bug on launchpad would be a good start09:12
Riddellrobertknight: it's much easier to just add a patch then to upgrade to a whole new version for an SRU (it's all very conservative to avoid adding new bugs) but it might be possible09:13
robertknightRiddell: The patch itself is https://bug-108991-attachments.webkit.org/attachment.cgi?id=186726 (very small)09:14
robertknightThat would work as well09:14
Riddellrobertknight: yeah that's the sort of thing which passes through fairly easily (still takes a week though)09:15
Riddellrobertknight: do you know if there's a similarly readable patch for the memory corruption issue?09:15
robertknightRiddell: I'm mistaken on that other issue - fix was https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,46660 but the ChangeLog entry there does appear in the sources for the libqtwebkit4 package09:17
Riddellrobertknight: so no problem or problem not fixed?09:18
robertknightNo problem AFAIK09:18
Riddellrobertknight: groovy, if you report a bug on launchpad for the crash I'll do the stable release update for it09:19
robertknightRiddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtwebkit-source/+bug/1180731 (posted originally in #qtwebkit by mistake) - thanks!09:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1180731 in qtwebkit-source (Ubuntu) "QtWebKit JS crash on 32-bit systems" [Undecided,New]09:39
Riddellrobertknight: what the heck is Mendeley Desktop?09:51
robertknightIn a nutshell, "iTunes for research" - http://www.mendeley.com/features/09:52
smartboyhwHi Riddell:)09:53
robertknightThe JS code in question is a library called citeproc-js that generates formatted citations for inclusion in bibliographies (like LaTeX / BibTeX if you've ever used those)09:54
Riddellnifty09:54
apacheloggeryay, SRUs10:09
Riddelleveryone loves them10:09
Riddellwhat's the one we have outstanding that needs testin?10:09
apacheloggerchecking right now10:10
apacheloggeroh they hijacked my kwin bug :(10:11
apacheloggerbug 1177781 needs verification10:12
ubottubug 1177781 in amarok (Ubuntu Raring) "QtWebKit causes crash in Amarok" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117778110:12
apacheloggerhomerun and kwin SRUs landed in updates, kscreen SRU just needs ubuntu-sru to move it10:13
Riddellrobertknight: uploaded, now it needs approval from a friendly ~ubuntu-sru such as ScottK (hint hint)10:42
Riddellrobertknight: then it'll need testing once it has build in raring10:42
Riddellrobertknight: then after 7 days it can go into the wild10:42
robertknightRiddell: Cheers - I can arrange a beer delivery if that will expedite the process ;)10:43
robertknightAs far as testing goes - that means me enabling the -proposed repo and checking that the fixed package works?10:43
Riddellrobertknight: exactly, and saying so on the bug report10:44
yofelbug 1174689 needs verification too (and a second monitor to do so)10:45
ubottubug 1174689 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu Raring) "Nvidia/Dual screen - No Taskbar/Kdemenu on default install Kubuntu 13.04" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117468910:45
robertknightRiddell: Ah, one other thing. I'm adding some code to my app to blacklist the affected version of QWK on 32-bit systems, as it will affect other distros shipping QtWebKit 2.3.0 as well.  I'm using qWebKitVersion() to detect the QWK version but presumably that won't have changed in the fixed package.10:49
Riddellrobertknight: no it wouldn't be10:54
shadeslayerlololol11:12
shadeslayer1178286 needs more patchery from upstream11:13
Riddellbug 117828611:14
ubottubug 1178286 in kde4libs (Ubuntu Raring) "Security advisory from KDE upstream" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117828611:14
Riddellmm?11:14
shadeslayerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/1178286/comments/2211:14
Riddellshadeslayer: fancy updating the patches?11:17
shadeslayeryeah, will do in a bit11:17
Riddellthanks11:23
yofelshadeslayer: mind updating the updates and backports while you're at it?11:24
shadeslayerah, 4.10.3 doesn't have that second commit :/11:24
shadeslayerhurray for such long support periods11:24
shadeslayeryofel: will do11:25
yofelthanks11:27
yofel(.3 didn't have the first one either for that matter ^^)11:28
shadeslayeruh, are you sure? IIRC that commit was made before .3 was tagged no?11:28
shadeslayerI could be wrong though, I don't remember exactly11:28
shadeslayermy internets is so slow :(11:29
yofelour changelog says otherwise11:30
shadeslayersomething is downloading at 200 KBps @_@11:31
shadeslayerand I have no idea what11:32
shadeslayerah, it was tomahawk11:32
BluesKajHey all11:35
Riddellubottu?11:38
RiddellScottK: bug 1177781 verification-done11:52
ubottubug 1177781 in amarok (Ubuntu Raring) "QtWebKit causes crash in Amarok" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117778111:52
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soee!package amarok13:54
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about package amarok13:54
soeeoh you..13:54
soee!package raring amarok13:54
ubottusoee: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:54
ScottKRiddell: released13:58
ScottK(kscreen too)13:58
ScottKafiestas_: ^^^ updated kscreen/libkscreen is in raring now.13:58
yofel!info amarok raring | soee14:23
ubottusoee: amarok (source: amarok): easy to use media player based on the KDE Platform. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:2.7.0-0ubuntu2 (raring), package size 6710 kB, installed size 26710 kB14:23
soeethank you yofel 14:25
soeesomeone doing 2.7.1 package ?14:25
yofelsoee: doesn't seem so looking at bug 118057614:33
ubottubug 1180576 in amarok (Ubuntu) "Please update amarok to 2.7.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118057614:33
yofelwant to learn some packaging? ^^14:33
soeeyofel, in a free time sure :) i have 2 weeks projects delayed already :/ 14:34
soeeso now my day is like 8-16 work, go home and work again :D14:34
yofelwell, same for me lately :S14:36
soeeits not a problem for me when its winter 14:36
soeebut now the sun outside .. :)14:36
yofelrainy here :P14:37
jessie_Riddell: Hey, I'm back. 14:50
lordievaderGood afternoon.15:11
soeehiho15:12
lordievaderHey soee, how are you doing?15:12
soeelordievader, fantastic :D thanks,  you?15:13
lordievaderDoing good too :)15:13
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ahoneybunhey people18:25
ahoneybunvalorie: apachelogger was right to use mediawiki, it has the export function but in truth the moinmoin site has it as well18:32
* ahoneybun does not know what to do now20:07
valorieyes, I know about the mediawiki21:29
valoriehowever, that isn't in our namespace21:29
valoriemy choice would be to do what we are doing, and figure out a good process for exporting to webpages for kubuntu.org, and to docbook for the kde helpcenter21:30
valoriebut ahoneybun, you took the lead, so you decide which way you want to go, and I'll help21:31
Riddelljessie: hi21:42
jessieRiddell: Ready for the rest when you are.21:43
jessieLooks like I need to sign the package?21:43
Riddelljessie: groovy21:44
Riddelljessie: just ignore that, press control c or something to kill it21:44
Riddellbut if it's asking for a gpg signature that means it has compiled and built the package, yay21:44
jessieIndeed it has.21:45
Riddelljessie: run dh_install --list-missing  to see if it has any newfiles21:45
Riddelljessie: check against debian/not-installed to see if there's anything extra21:46
ahoneybun_Hello?21:49
Riddellhi ahoneybun_ 21:49
jessieRiddell: Nothing that dh_install lists that is not in debian/not-installed21:50
ahoneybun_Hey I can't be there for the meeting on Monday, timezone issues21:51
Riddelljessie: excellent21:51
Riddelljessie: so check the .debs install with dpkg --install21:51
Riddelljessie: run lintian over the .deb and .dsc file to see if it complains about things21:51
ahoneybun_Riddell: I was talking with valorie about using a different wiki to export do book files21:51
ahoneybun_Docbook21:51
Riddellahoneybun_: yep, got one in mind?21:52
valoriewhy would we need a different one though, if moin can do the job?21:52
ahoneybun_The official moinmoin wiki has the export function21:52
valoriewe need to make this as simple as possible21:52
ahoneybun_I have a example in my branch21:52
valorieor it won't continue to get done21:52
ahoneybun_Yea I don't want to do more work if it will get us to our finial goal21:53
ahoneybun_Final21:53
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ahoneybun_Will not21:54
Riddellso the ubuntu wiki can't export?21:54
ahoneybun_No it does have the feature for some reason21:55
ahoneybun_Riddell: valorie https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-docs/raring21:55
Riddellahoneybun_: so how's that exported?21:56
ahoneybun_Riddell: in the welcome folder there is a welcome. XML file21:57
valorieahoneybun_: have you spoken with the canonical sysadmins about why export is blocked?21:57
valoriesimplest would be if they turned on that feature again21:57
RiddellI suspect that won't be very fruitful21:57
ahoneybun_valorie: I have not, can you be at that meeting on Monday?21:58
Riddellahoneybun_: yes but how is it exported?21:58
valorieif I can get mumble to stop screaming at me21:58
ahoneybun_Riddell: its in XML format21:59
ahoneybun_That's what I have so far21:59
Riddellahoneybun_: is it exported from a wiki?21:59
ahoneybun_Riddell: yea21:59
Riddelljessie: apt-get -f install  to fix the install22:00
Riddellahoneybun_: how if wiki.u.c doesn't support it?22:00
jessieRiddell: Probably we will get X and the like now. :-/ This poor instance.22:00
Riddelljessie: that's fine22:00
Riddelljessie: we'll throw away the ec2 when we're done anyway22:01
ahoneybun_Riddell: what?22:01
Riddellahoneybun_: you said wiki.ubuntu.com doesn't do docbook export.  you said this is exported from a wiki.  how is it exported if the wiki doesn't do export?22:02
ahoneybun_The official moinmoin wiki has it22:03
Riddellahoneybun_: what URL?22:03
Riddelljessie: groovy, I think we're all good to go22:03
Riddelljessie: in the package run  debuild -S   to make a source build22:04
jessieRiddell: Agreed. That's the output I expected to see.22:04
ahoneybun__Riddell: http://moinmo.in/Kubuntu-Docs/Raring22:06
Riddellahoneybun__: groovy, how about just developing it on that wiki then?22:06
Riddelland export it to docbook and html for kubuntu.org when it's good to go22:06
ahoneybun__I was not sure if that was OK to do as its not my work22:06
ahoneybun__Riddell: can you check the welcome.XML to see if that is what we need first ?22:07
jessieLooks like your line and mine line got munged together there, Riddell. jessie@novassh-rsa should be jessie@nova\nssh-rsa ...22:10
Riddelljessie: ok I signed it22:12
Riddelljessie: the .changes file lists what's going to be uploaded, check it's all correct22:12
Riddelljessie: the changelog is ok, uploading to saucy, correct version, it's got the .orig22:13
jessieYeah, it all looks correct to me.22:14
Riddelljessie: lovely22:14
Riddelljessie: dput ubuntu foo-source.changes22:14
Riddellsends it on its way22:14
Riddelljessie: oh there's a flag to ignore the gpg check22:15
Riddell--unchecked22:16
Riddelluh oh22:16
Riddelljessie: oh the source.changes22:16
Riddellyou're doing the i386 one22:16
jessieOhhhhh22:16
Riddelljessie: hoorah!22:16
jessieAnd then build bots automatically build the i386 and amd64 ones?22:16
Riddellyou're a packager22:16
Riddelljessie: yep22:17
jessieWoooooo :-D That wasn't *too* hard.22:17
Riddelljessie: a couple of hours to learn the basics22:17
Riddella lifetime to master it all22:17
Riddellwe skipped over the patches22:18
Riddelland I still needto put the packaging in bzr22:18
jessieYeah, I saw that. Luckily I'm decent at coding so I followed some/most of what you were doing with the patches.22:18
Riddelljessie: any questions?22:20
Riddellyou can watch its progress in the build daemons at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok22:20
jessieRiddell: No, though I am sure that I will have questions when it comes time to do it again.22:20
Riddelljessie: oh we still need to backport this to raring :)22:21
jessieSo the 2.7.0-2 update I saw yesterday was not this?22:21
Riddelljessie: no, have a look on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok22:22
Riddellraring has 2:2.7.0-0ubuntu2.1 in updates22:22
jessieRiddell: I don't see the build Daemons on launchpad. Where should they be?22:22
yofelyou see the builds when you click on a version22:22
Riddelljessie: if you click on a version it'll show the builds e.g. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/2:2.7.0-0ubuntu322:22
Riddellfour green ticks, one for each platform22:22
yofelbuildd overview if you're ever curious is on https://launchpad.net/builders22:23
jessieOh, it's building!22:26
yofelactually all builds are done, in-progress builds have that clock-like animation that you can see on the buildd page22:27
jessieyofel: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/2:2.7.1-0ubuntu122:28
jessieMy package is building, I meant.22:28
Riddell"subject: [ubuntu/saucy-proposed] amarok 2:2.7.1-0ubuntu1 (Accepted)"  yay!22:28
yofeljessie: ok, I was looking at the wrong version ^^22:29
ahoneybun__Riddell: so move the wiki to moinmoin.in and export it to docbook?22:31
Riddellahoneybun__: yeah I think that's easiest, assuming moinmoin.in is reliable and they would be happy to have it22:33
ahoneybun__Riddell: is the XML file it gave me going to work us?22:33
Riddellahoneybun__: looking22:34
ahoneybun_K22:35
Riddellahoneybun_: some strange breakage in it22:41
Riddelle.g. line 16 missing an opening <  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-docs/raring/view/head:/docs/Welcome/welcome.xml22:41
ahoneybun_I know not perfect but better then writing by hand22:42
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [982889] X trying to start before plymouth has finished using the drm driver @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/982889 (by Tomas Vanderka)22:44
Riddellahoneybun_: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/welcome.html22:45
Riddellahoneybun_: yay got it to html22:45
Riddellahoneybun_: needs the stylesheet in the right place of course22:46
Riddellbut should be fine22:46
Riddellahoneybun_: I'm not sure if moinmo.in will want kubuntu docs on their wiki though22:47
ahoneybun_Riddell: you edited the XML file ? What about http://www.tldp.org/?22:49
Riddellahoneybun_: I did fix up the broken bits22:50
Riddellahoneybun_: I think they won't want randomers using their wiki either22:50
Riddellahoneybun_: we probably need to set up moin moin ourselves22:50
Riddellunless mediawiki can do it and we can hijack a kde wiki22:50
ahoneybun_Media wiki can22:51
valorieperhaps we should discuss this with #kde-www people then22:53
valoriebut I'm unhappy with anything that moves our docs out of our space22:53
Riddellit would only be for development, final thing on kubuntu.org and packaged22:54
ahoneybun_http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/DocBook_XML_export22:55
ahoneybun_valorie: I think Riddell's way would be the best22:56
valorieI understand, but it takes it out of our control22:57
ahoneybun_I would like to keep them there as well22:57
ahoneybun_Better looking22:57
valorieKDE seems the best choice if we must move, however22:57
valorieprobably not in userbase, but in Community22:57
ahoneybun_Do they have the export though22:58
Riddellthat's the question22:58
valorieyes22:58
Riddellyou sure?22:58
valoriethat's how our Amarok docs are created22:58
valorieyes22:58
valorieyou can even export to a epub22:58
valorieso you can read it on your kindle22:59
valoriethe devels in #kde-www are awesome to work with23:00
valorieas are the docs people in #kde-docs23:00
Riddellso I'd say a quick check it's ok with www and docs people them put it on community.kde.org23:01
ahoneybun_So we need to find where to put the wiki at23:02
Riddellvalorie: do you know where the amarok ones are?23:02
valorieuserbase/amarok23:03
valoriesec and I'll get the real link23:03
valoriehttp://userbase.kde.org/Amarok/Manual23:04
valoriebut as I say, userbase is stuctured, and I don't think kubuntu would fit there23:04
valorieso community would be better23:04
ahoneybun__BTW I'm in my tech writing class 23:05
valoriecool23:06
Riddellahoneybun__: ooh you're get quite into this kubuntu docs thing if you're going to classes for it :)23:09
ahoneybun__Loll I need it for my degree , my prof wrote for IBM 23:10
sakangany reason why the major kde stuff like plasma, workspace are still at 4.10.2?23:10
ahoneybun__Bugs23:10
Riddellsakang: where?23:10
sakangin precise backports ppa23:10
Riddellsakang: no upstream changes23:11
sakangRiddell: thanks.  I do have some in 4.10.3 23:11
Riddellyofel: should we have a 4.10.3 announcement on kubuntu.org?23:11
Riddellsakang: yeah anything without upstream changes we don't bother to update (right yofel?)23:12
sakangRiddell: sounds good :)23:13
yofelRiddell: we should, I forgot to write one, sorry23:14
yofelsakang: we do indeed not update anything without upstream changes. kde-workspace was updated though23:14
yofelexcept if launchpad messed the copying up...23:15
ahoneybun__Riddell: when will raring get 4.10.3?23:15
Riddellahoneybun__: it's in backports PPA23:15
yofelno, it's in the updates PPA for raring23:15
Riddellum right23:16
RiddellScottK usually puts it into updates when he's feeling nice23:16
ahoneybun__Oh23:16
sakangyofel: the candidate for kde-workspace is still - Candidate: 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04~ppa323:18
yofelsakang: ok, it seems like at least kde-workspace  missing... 23:18
yofel*is missing23:18
yofelI'm publishing everything again...23:19
sakangthanks23:19
ahoneybun__Riddell: so what do I do now?23:19
Riddellahoneybun__: put a test page up on community.kde.org and see if you can export that?23:19
ahoneybun__OK 23:21
yofelsakang: kde-workspace was really copied now and will appear in updates shortly23:22
yofelthe rest of the packages is correct at least23:22
yofelthanks for noticing23:22
sakangyofel: not sure which didn't get updates but plasma-desktop, kwin are still 4.10.2?23:22
yofelnope, that's part of workspace which is 4.10.323:22
yofelsakang: full (and now correct) list is on https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages?field.series_filter=precise&batch=300#23:23
ahoneybun__Openid URL?23:23
Riddellahoneybun__: https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/OpenID23:24
Riddellhttps://launchpad.net/~your-nickname23:24
ahoneybun__OK23:24
sakangyofel: ok, let me do update23:25
yofelsakang: won't appear yet, if you the link ^ you'll see a green gear for kde-workspace. You'll get the update once that's gone23:26
ahoneybun__Riddell: I'm doing ask of this on my n723:26
yofel*you open23:26
sakangok23:26
* yofel is off to bed, good night23:27
* Riddell off to bed too23:37
Riddellthanks for taking on the docs, we'll get there soon ahoneybun_ 23:37
ahoneybun__Riddell: I don't think it has that power23:48
ahoneybun__User base does23:51
ahoneybun__Or maybe yes23:53

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