[00:29] <rspurlock> i tried installing lubuntu on my imac g3 and it runs unusably slow and i believe the system meets requirements
[00:30] <rspurlock> what can be done about this
[00:38] <rspurlock> i have an Imac G3 with 500mhz and 384 mg ram are there any distros that might run ok on this box? i have had no luck with lubuntu i cant even get it to boot after installation
[00:39] <rspurlock> it tries but it takes like 25 mins or so and then takes about 10 more to log in
[00:41] <rspurlock> it tries but it takes like 25 mins or so and then takes about 10 more to log in
[00:41] <rspurlock> i have an Imac G3 with 500mhz and 384 mg ram are there any distros that might run ok on this box? i have had no luck with lubuntu i cant even get it to boot after installation
[00:44] <Unit193> !patience | rspurlock
[00:44] <Unit193> Could try Debian, but you'd have to know a little what you're doing.  Also, that's not a fast computer you have there.
[00:44] <cerebrate> rspurlock you might get puppylinux to run on it, they talk about it in #puppylinux i think
[00:44] <rspurlock> i know it was an accident sorry
[00:44]  * Unit193 isn't one of the PPC'ers.
[00:45] <rspurlock> i dont want to be a ppc'ers but i could only afford this used crap
[00:47] <rspurlock> unit193 i have installed deb on an old pc before
[00:47] <rspurlock> even managed to get a gui up and running
[00:47] <rspurlock> not much else
[00:48] <rspurlock> i'm just looking to have a box i can play my nes emulator and check email i aint looking for a fancy setup although it would be nice lol
[00:49] <Unit193> rspurlock: Ubuntu or Debian netinst with only fluxbox or openbox.
[00:50] <rspurlock> if i netinst it will allow me to opt out of gnome and xorg and use xfree with flux?
[00:55] <rspurlock> if i am not mistaken xfree has a smaller footprint than xorg
[03:17] <shiman6> I've got a problem trying to forward audio from my android 4.1 phone to my lubuntu 13.04 computer via bluetooth. Could I get some help?
[08:45] <opix> hi
[11:52] <As001> hello Can this distro work on celeron pc with 256MB of memory  ? I just tried it but it is under heavy load.
[11:52] <As001> I want to limit some cpu usage and memory usage for some processes but I can't find cgroup configuration file.
[11:53] <As001> I followed this tutorial http://linuxaria.com/article/introduction-to-cgroups-the-linux-conrol-group?lang=en but i am unable to find /etc/cgconfig.conf config file
[12:25] <ghostwheel> i can't get the right screen res. I've googled and tried a bunch of different stuff and nothing works. it's making me insane
[12:27] <SonikkuAmerica> ghostwheel: [ xrandr -s $WIDTHx$HEIGHT ]
[12:27] <SonikkuAmerica> !crosspost | ghostwheel
[12:28] <ghostwheel> sorry about that
[12:28] <ghostwheel> my resolution not found in available modes
[12:29] <SonikkuAmerica> Are you using Lubuntu btw?
[12:29] <ghostwheel> yes
[12:29] <SonikkuAmerica> OK.
[12:30] <SonikkuAmerica> Lubuntu is easy to use, but hard to configure. What res are you trying to set it to, and what graphics card do you have?
[12:31] <ghostwheel> i tried adding the mode i wanted in xorg.conf file but there seem to be conf files in different places
[12:31] <ghostwheel> i don't think i found the right one
[12:31] <ghostwheel> i have an old laptop, it has a geforce 4 420 go
[12:31] <ghostwheel> this stuff used to be easier
[12:32] <ghostwheel> they moved files all over the place
[12:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah... I'll tell you right now you probably won't get higher than 1024x768 with it.
[12:32] <ghostwheel> thats crazy
[12:33] <ghostwheel> i had ancient version of cranchbang when it still used ubuntu that detected the screen better
[12:33] <ghostwheel> *crunchbang
[12:33] <SonikkuAmerica> ghostwheel: That's mainly due to the limitations of the Nouveau driver for 4:3 machine.
[12:34] <SonikkuAmerica> s
[12:34] <ghostwheel> this is a 1280x800 screen
[12:35] <SonikkuAmerica> I assume you checked in Display Settings...
[12:35] <ghostwheel> yes
[12:35] <ghostwheel> the display setting are useless when it display 3 settings and they are all wrong
[12:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Let me guess: 1024x768, 800x600, and 640x480.
[12:36] <ghostwheel> yes
[12:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Yep. You're not going to get far with that old GeForce card either.
[12:36] <ghostwheel> this is like 2003, except worse
[12:37] <ghostwheel> back then i could change the conf file and be done with it
[12:39] <ghostwheel> why can't linux detect screen resolutions properly? why is this still a problem?!?! AAAHAH!
[12:49] <SonikkuAmerica> ghostwheel: New drivers + old card = disaster. Believe me, I've been there.
[12:49] <ghostwheel> screw this, I'm installing an old version of ubuntu
[12:49] <SonikkuAmerica> ghostwheel: Not a good idea if you're keeping it connected.
[12:50] <SonikkuAmerica> Linux malware exists.
[12:50] <ghostwheel> pffft
[12:50] <ghostwheel> i think i can manage
[12:50] <SonikkuAmerica> If you insist... but don't say I didn't warn you. :)
[12:51] <ghostwheel> I'm not going to suffer with a laptop hobbled by "I'mprovements"
[12:51] <ghostwheel> yes, all those hackers targeting linux
[12:52] <SonikkuAmerica> If you say so. I'll be back in a second
[12:52] <ghostwheel> you're silly
[12:54] <SonikkuAmerica> ghostwheel: I'm back! Me, silly?
[12:55] <SonikkuAmerica> https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=linux%20malware&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=9af75164e442f2a5&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.46471029,d.dmQ&biw=1024&bih=682
[12:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Or rather: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware
[12:55] <ghostwheel> when I'm running a mission critical data centre, ill worry abut it
[12:56] <ghostwheel> in the meantime, a crusty old laptop being used to surf the net and run the gimp isn't going to be a problem
[14:33] <n-iCe> hi
[14:44] <SonikkuAmerica> Yo
[14:55] <KI4RO> .
[14:55] <KI4RO> Anyone had success getting Flash to work in Chromium?
[14:56] <n-iCe> easy
[14:56] <n-iCe> install the flash installer
[14:56] <holstein> KI4RO: the supported version of flash for linux works with linux.. any browser i have tried
[14:56] <n-iCe> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[14:57] <KI4RO> holstein: Hmmm...maybe I have the wrong one?
[14:57] <holstein> if you want the latest flash, the chrome browser has it... AFAIK, you can grab the *.so from chrome and use it in chromium
[14:57] <holstein> !flash
[14:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Don't even bother trying Gnash
[14:57] <holstein> KI4RO: looks like what n-iCe suggested
[14:57] <n-iCe> :)
[14:57] <holstein> also, refer to http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ for what adobe is providing
[14:58] <holstein> *Flash Player 11.2 is the last supported Flash Player version for Linux. Adobe will continue to provide security updates
[14:58] <holstein> you'll note 11.7 available for chrome (not chromium)
[14:59] <KI4RO> but I'm running Lubuntu and don't see any restricted anything in that software center
[14:59] <holstein> why would i use chromium? because its open-source.. i might continue that trend by not using flash with it
[14:59] <holstein> KI4RO: lubuntu *is* ubuntu
[15:00] <holstein> KI4RO: the same sources... you can run the command n-iCe gave
[15:00] <KI4RO> holstein: Okay...I'll try it that way
[15:00] <holstein> if its just youtube you are interested in, you can do html5 via http://www.youtube.com/html5
[15:02] <KI4RO> holstein: Okay did what nice said, now what?
[15:03] <holstein> KI4RO: what "n-iCe said" installs the 11.2 version from the ubuntu repos on your system... i might expect to restart the browser.. i would test via http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[15:04] <KI4RO> holstein: okay
[15:50] <dexta> prevening
[17:24] <shafox> hi i cant authorize my wifi , fresh install 12.04 on compaq laptop. it was working fine while installation but after restart it detects the wifi but when i try to connect it wont let me auth
[17:27] <n-iCe> shafox: change password
[17:27] <n-iCe> set it correctly
[17:27] <shafox> n-iCe: it was all good in this laptop
[17:27] <shafox> but not in my laptop
[17:28] <shafox> and this is a windows , mine is lubuntu 12.04
[17:30] <n-iCe> uh?
[17:30] <n-iCe> you want to connect in the lubuntu machine
[17:30] <n-iCe> use, sudo ifconfig wlan0 down
[17:30] <n-iCe> then
[17:30] <n-iCe> use, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[17:31] <n-iCe> and try using network-manager again to connect
[17:31] <n-iCe> make sure you set the password correctly
[17:33] <shafox> n-iCe: i did sudo ifconfig wlan0 down it said wlan0: error while getting interface flags: no such device
[17:33] <n-iCe> ...
[17:33] <n-iCe> of course use your own interface
[17:34] <shafox> i tried in my lubuntu machine only
[17:34] <n-iCe> what are you talking about
[17:34] <n-iCe> use: sudo iwconfig
[17:34] <n-iCe> to check your wireless interface
[17:35] <n-iCe> then change wlan0 on the command to your interface, it could be wlan1 eth0 wlan2, etc check yours
[17:35] <shafox> it was eth1
[17:35] <shafox> down no message up no message
[17:35] <n-iCe> now try again
[17:36] <shafox> same , authentication attempt was unsuccessful
[17:39] <n-iCe> reboot
[17:39] <n-iCe> and remove the ap
[17:39] <n-iCe> and connect again
[17:40] <shafox> ap?
[17:42] <n-iCe> access point
[18:37] <wxl> what's the command to show mouse input the os is registering?
[18:38] <wxl> oh xev will do it eh?
[18:57] <n-iCe> wxl: hi
[19:03] <wxl> n-iCe: howdy
[19:06] <n-iCe> alright
[19:06] <n-iCe> what do you want to know exactly?
[19:07] <wxl> i already figured it out; go back to sleep
[19:07] <n-iCe> :)
[19:10] <Unit193> Answer is xev.
[21:29] <Noskcaj> phillw, we are discussing adding LSC to xubuntu. come over to #xubuntu-devel
[22:41] <Ohga> hello. is lubuntu more efficient than ubuntu besides due to having a different DE?
[22:43] <wxl> it uses a lot less system resources, Ohga
[22:43] <Ohga> wxl: ah, great too know. Especialy because I'd like to use it gui-less for my server
[22:44] <wxl> Ohga: so get ubuntu-server
[22:44] <Ohga> wxl: that's what the cool people use for servers? ok..
[22:44] <wxl> Ohga: no, but that's what people who don't want a gui use.
[22:45] <wxl> lubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, etc. are all defined by their gui. if you don't want one, ubuntu-server.
[22:45] <Ohga> wxl: right, but I were under the impression you could skip packages during install..
[22:45] <wxl> Ohga: you could probably bother with that but that's likely more work than it's worth.
[22:46] <Unit193> Sounds like he wants mini?
[22:46] <Ohga> wxl: Guess that's true. Well thanks for the pointers, much appreciated
[22:46] <wxl> yeppers
[22:46] <wxl> Unit193: if s/he wants to select packages, rather than meta, probably.
[22:47] <Ohga> what is this "mini"?
[22:48] <Unit193> 10MB iso that is the core only.
[22:48] <Unit193> 1mini
[22:48] <Unit193> !mini
[22:48] <wxl> so that's more of a "build it up" sort of thing, Ohga
[22:48] <Ohga> well.. then what is..
[22:49] <Ohga> !ubuntu-server
[22:49] <wxl> but if you want a base server build, ubuntu-server takes care of most of the thinking for you
[22:49] <wxl> although you might not want all the server apps
[22:49] <Ohga> but can I review them during install, right?
[22:50] <wxl> as far as i remember yes
[22:50] <wxl> they're tasks
[22:50] <Ohga> well, sounds like ubuntu-server is the way to go
[22:50] <Ohga> thanks all
[22:50] <wxl> so it's not necessarily all packages
[22:50] <Unit193> Alrighty, have a good one.
[23:22] <phillw> Ohga: just be aware that ubuntu-server does not install by default ssh. Make sure you flag it to be installed if you need that functionality.
[23:22] <Ohga> phillw: alright
[23:26] <phillw> Ohga: this page is out of date, but it does describe what tasksel can do https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel From memory, the SSH stuff is near the top when the option appears (as it will if you install server)
[23:27] <phillw> it's great for 'throwing' LAMP quickly onto a server as it looks after all the various bits and asks the questions :)
[23:27] <Ohga> yeah