[04:26] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: ping
[04:26] <JoseeAntonioR> oh, nvm
[04:27] <pleia2> k
[04:32] <bkerensa> jono_: man Idk if that beer session was great for me :P I ended up take a nice nap after and got no work done
[04:33] <jono_> bkerensa, hah, nice :-)
[04:33] <bkerensa> jono_: friday is bbq session right? I have wifi out on my patio :)
[04:34] <jono_> bkerensa, oh nice :-)
[04:34] <jono_> I might do some steak
[04:34]  * jono_ is working on the UAK right now
[05:02] <jono_> bkerensa, around?
[05:28] <bkerensa> jono_: yeah
[05:28] <jono_> bkerensa, hey, can I sign you up for a UAK work item or two?
[05:28] <bkerensa> :s
[05:29] <bkerensa> jono_: what did you have in mind? :)
[05:29] <jono_> you have some great experience writing docs, so can I ask you to write some docs about organizing events?
[05:29] <jono_> bkerensa, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-s-uak-first-release
[05:30] <pleia2> a fair amount can probably be taken from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamKnowledgeBase#LoCo_Activities
[05:30] <jono_> indeed
[05:30] <pleia2> the installfests and release party pages have lots of good info :)
[05:31] <jono_> pleia2, your point today about the UAK not being ready resonated with me, so I want to try get a simple first cut of 1.0 ready
[05:31] <jono_> and for us to ensure we curate the docs in the future so the kit always remains lean but up to date
[05:31] <pleia2> jono_: I was clued in later that it was talked about earlier in the day, I was really happy to hear that
[05:31] <pleia2> it's a great idea, just need to execute ;)
[05:31] <jono_> pleia2, indeed :-)
[05:31] <bkerensa> jono_: sure I can write something up
[05:31] <jono_> putting together a blueprint and I am going to knock on doors to write some content
[05:31] <pleia2> \o/
[05:32] <jono_> I think we could get something cohesive this month
[05:32] <bkerensa> its the 15th already
[05:32] <bkerensa> :)
[05:32] <jono_> knome also contributed some flavor logos :-)
[05:32] <jono_> thanks bkerensa
[05:32] <bkerensa> you are optimistic
[05:32] <jono_> bkerensa, we can do it :-)
[05:32] <pleia2> he's great at keeping on top of those
[05:32] <jono_> bkerensa, can I put you down for how to organize a booth?
[05:32] <jono_> bkerensa, and maybe the page for organizing a jam too?
[05:34] <bkerensa> jono_: booth is fine and jam works
[05:34] <jono_> bkerensa, awesome, thanks
[05:34] <jono_> bkerensa, I am adding additional docs for how to contribute to the kit
[05:35] <bkerensa> jono_: I will have to give you soap when you come up in July
[05:35]  * bkerensa is soap maker now
[05:35] <jono_> bkerensa, sweet :-)
[05:44] <jono_> bkerensa, okl
[05:44] <bkerensa> jono_: did the certificates work out?
[05:44] <bkerensa> jono_: also have you got a Gandi domain yet? :)
[05:45] <jono_> if you subscribe to the PPA when the package builds next you can see the docs for how to contribute
[05:45] <jono_> bkerensa, yep the certs are being printed
[05:45] <jono_> waiting for michelle to send them to Mark
[05:45] <jono_> unfortunately we won't be able to send all existing members a cert
[05:45] <jono_> too expensive
[05:45] <jono_> there are 700+ members
[05:46] <jono_> but when members renew membership they can apply for a cert
[05:46] <bkerensa> yeah
[05:46] <jono_> bkerensa, so you are helping to kickstart the docs team, right?
[05:46] <bkerensa> jono_: yeah
[05:47] <jono_> bkerensa, would you be interested in helping to get the docs team involved in the UAK content development?
[05:47] <jono_> could be a fun project
[05:48] <bkerensa> jono_: well atm we do not have enough hands to do Ubuntu Docs... That might be a nice goal for next cycle or something
[05:48] <jono_> bkerensa, might be cool to build some buzz on your blog to get people involved
[05:49] <bkerensa> jono_: yeah we had a decent turnout at the session of people that want to get involved we just need to improve the docs and document processes and then begin onboarding
[05:49] <jono_> cool
[05:49] <jono_> we can discuss some of this in the roundtable
[05:51] <jono_> ok bed for me
[05:51] <jono_> see you tomorrow, folks
[06:35] <dholbach> good morning
[06:37] <smartboyhw> Hello dholbach:)
[06:37] <dholbach> hi smartboyhw
[06:37] <smartboyhw> Meh, our class went for a very low passing rate for a geography OPEN BOOK test:P
[06:37] <JoseeAntonioR> hey, D!
[06:38] <smartboyhw> JoseeAntonioR: Hey
[06:38] <JoseeAntonioR> hey smartboyhw :)
[13:59] <JoseeAntonioR> hey jono, you joining the Q&A systems session?
[14:00] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, unfortunately not
[14:00] <JoseeAntonioR> hmm, ok then, no problem
[14:00] <jono> were you expecting me to be there?
[14:01] <JoseeAntonioR> yeah, I thought you were going to see the pros+cons
[14:01] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, you should have mentioned you expected me there, and I would have marked it in my cal
[14:01] <jono> this slot is bad for me as I am looking after my son for this hour
[14:02] <jono> sorry for the misunderstanding
[14:02] <jono> jcastro, are you going to the session?
[14:02] <JoseeAntonioR> no worries :)
[14:02] <jcastro> jono: we have a juju session now
[14:03] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, I will catch the hangout later and then we can discuss afterwards
[14:03] <jono> thanks for your understanding JoseeAntonioR, and thanks for running the session
[14:03] <jono> jcastro, np
[14:03] <JoseeAntonioR> no worries :)
[14:03] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: that's fine
[14:04] <jcastro> I am cancelling a juju session later
[14:04] <jcastro> if you want to move it
[14:23] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: I don't know if you have any suggestions for this, or if you want to say anything
[14:51] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: hey, please let me know how will I proceed with IS to continue with the project (if it's going to be done)
[15:00] <jcastro> hey so to me I don't think this software is any better than what's on lp answers
[15:02] <jono> thanks JoseeAntonioR
[15:02] <jono> dpm are you doing core apps next?
[15:03] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: it's like saying askubuntu is not any better than LP answers
[15:03] <JoseeAntonioR> like, stackexchange itselg
[15:04] <jcastro> but afaict shapado doesn't have reviews and editing
[15:04] <jcastro> that's like, the crux of the entire thing
[15:05] <jono> balloons, dholbach who is running the next session?
[15:05] <jono> dpm you there?
[15:06] <dholbach> jono, I'm running "Ubuntu Touch Porting" one, balloons the other one
[15:06] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: as far as I know it does have those features, can we discuss this a bit later?
[15:06] <jono> thanks, guys
[15:06] <jono> mhall119, who is running core apps?
[15:06] <jono> is that you?
[15:06] <mhall119> jono: yes
[15:06] <mhall119> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/9d84b48b6e659cdab7ffd5f0caa3dc2ada095f4e?authuser=0&hl=en
[15:06] <jono> thanks
[15:06] <jcastro> JoseeAntonioR: sure, I'm in a session myself
[15:06] <JoseeAntonioR> thanks :)
[15:07] <IdleOne> jono: http://techrights.org/2013/05/15/ubuntu-and-microsoft-veteran/
[15:07] <jono> IdleOne, I saw that
[15:07] <jcastro> hah, that site still exists?
[15:07] <IdleOne> jono: k. :)
[15:08] <jono> IdleOne, I am going to leave a comment
[15:08] <IdleOne> That is why I mentioned it.
[15:08] <IdleOne> seems most of it is half truth
[15:11] <jcastro> wow
[15:11] <jcastro> you can't make this stuff up
[15:15] <dpm> jono, sorry, I'm there yes, but we're running the sessions on the appdev room
[15:15] <dpm> mhall119 is doing the core apps one
[15:15] <dpm> I'm running room 2
[15:52] <jcastro> jono: you did not +1 my post about pork chops
[15:52]  * jcastro shakes fist
[15:56] <jono> dholbach, thanks for the summary
[15:56] <jono> you did even before I asked :-)
[15:56] <jono> it is as if we have worked together for a while :-)
[15:56] <dholbach> jono, anytime
[15:56] <dholbach> jono, don't worry - it's not like I can anticipate ALL your thoughts yet
[15:56] <jono> dholbach, lol
[15:56] <dholbach> not sure if that's desirable :-P
[15:57]  * dholbach hugs jono
[15:57] <jono> dholbach, :-)
[15:57] <jono> dholbach, I might some more specific detail on these
[15:57] <jono> can we discuss briefly in the lunch session?
[15:58] <jono> take 10 mins for me to ask a bunch of questions about sessions you were in
[15:58] <dholbach> jono, shall we do it right after the roundtable?
[15:58] <jono> dholbach, sure
[15:58] <dholbach> perfect
[15:58] <dholbach> oh and I realise I missed one - let me go back
[15:59] <jono> balloons, hey
[16:00] <balloons> jono, pong
[16:00] <jono> balloons, I would like to ask you to provide a summary of all the key decisions throughout the testing sessions this week
[16:00] <jono> I will ask you to summarize these in the final session
[16:00] <balloons> sounds fun :-) I'm trying to keep tabs
[16:00] <jono> please provide concrete decisions that were made and plans
[16:00] <jono> dpm can you coordinate this with balloons?
[16:01] <jono> just take a little time during lunch to finalize this
[16:01] <dholbach> jono, I'll start the roundtable session
[16:01] <jono> thanks dh
[16:01] <jono> thanks dholbach
[16:03] <balloons> i have the ubuntu touch image testing session ;-)
[16:03] <dpm> jono, ok. balloons, let's sync up during lunch
[16:03] <jono> thanks, guys
[16:03] <balloons> dpm, ohh a lunch date!
[16:04] <dpm> :P
[16:35] <nigelb> jcastro: hah "I hear that guy is pretty awesome." re: chriscoulson :)
[16:35] <jcastro> heh
[16:54] <dpm> balloons, I'll be preparing my own notes for the appdev track now. Shall we do a quick hangout in ~30?
[16:55] <balloons> dpm, same.. let's review at 17:40
[16:55] <dpm> balloons, sounds good
[17:51] <balloons> dholbach, jono I have th Scaling Translations using Tech session
[17:53] <dholbach> cool
[18:05] <jono> dholbach, can you invite me to your sess?
[18:05] <dholbach> sure
[18:05] <dholbach> jono, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/9b9c3a9946df787f1eba35e7fe8752bbe4aa3491?authuser=0
[18:06] <PabloRubianes> jono, have a minute for a quick PM?
[18:06] <jono> PabloRubianes, sure
[18:23] <JoseeAntonioR> well, time for real lunch for me
[18:50] <airurando> quick question about the Ubuntu Advocacy Kit.
[18:50] <airurando> The wiki page install instructions appear slightly off
[18:51] <airurando> the final command sudo apt-get install uak yields E: Unable to locate package uak under 12.04
[18:53] <airurando> jono's email to the loco_contacts mailing list today differed in that final command
[18:53] <airurando> jono stipulated sudo apt-get install uak-en
[18:53] <jono> airurando, apt-get install uak-en
[18:53] <airurando> thanks jono
[18:54] <airurando> should the wiki page be changed?
[18:54] <airurando> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu%20Advocacy%20Kit%20%28UAK%29/Installing
[18:55] <jono> airurando, if you could, thanks!
[18:55] <airurando> will do
[18:57] <airurando> done
[19:18] <bkerensa> cjohnston: I am talking with the Security and Privacy Teams now RE that link cprofitt posted and should have an answer shortly
[19:20] <cjohnston> k
[19:21] <bkerensa> cjohnston: I just clarified with the Security Team and they said not only has Mozilla responded to NSS Labs in blog posts but apparently so has Opera
[19:21] <bkerensa> they consider NSS Labs study to be inconclusive due to the limited testing they did
[19:21] <bkerensa> cjohnston: http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/2011/07/20/nss-labs
[19:22] <bkerensa> I am trying to see which our best responses have been on the Mozilla side but I will also see about getting a new response to this out the door
[19:22] <bkerensa> cjohnston: apparently NSS labs has always ranked IE as the most secure
[20:00] <dpm> \o/
[20:01] <dholbach> :-D
[20:02] <dholbach> all right, I call it a day - see you all - and enjoy the party! :)
[20:02] <JoseeAntonioR> KARAOKE!
[20:03] <mhall119> man, I'm exhausted now
[20:03] <dpm> same here, same here :)
[20:03] <jcastro> LOL
[20:03] <jcastro> http://whereschuck.org/
[20:04] <dpm> it's been a good one, though
[20:04] <JoseeAntonioR> that page is bookmarked
[20:05] <bkerensa> lol
[20:05] <bkerensa> damn
[20:05] <bkerensa> :(
[20:05] <jcastro> the one with him in the viking helmet is the best
[20:05] <bkerensa> almost gave me a seizure
[20:05] <bkerensa> lol
[20:05] <bkerensa> canadian maple much
[20:06] <SergioMeneses> jajajaja
[20:06] <SergioMeneses> always is fun to read this channel
[20:07] <JoseeAntonioR> now, where's max singing lady gaga's?
[20:33] <balloons> jcastro, that page hurts my brain
[20:33] <balloons> so so so so so much