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dholbachgood morning06:35
iulianMorning dholbach.07:58
dholbachhi iulian08:03
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asomethingmitya57, looks like I can't grant DM upload permissions on a package not yet in the archive. Do you have a link to an updated source package so I can sponsor it for you?14:39
Rhondaasomething: Erm, why should that work?14:43
RhondaDo you want to create a chicken-egg problem? :)14:43
asomethingRhonda, honestly I didn't really think it would, but tried sending the dak commands anyway14:44
RhondaBut you are right, now that it's handled differently, it's not a chicken-egg issue anymore …14:44
RhondaBut in the old way of granting the right a sourceful upload was needed (and thus the package already in the pool), it doesn't change with the new way of handling it.14:45
LaneyI thought DM disallowed NEW anyway14:46
RhondaLaney: In the old way it was implicit through the required DMUA flag being in the source package in the pool.14:47
RhondaIn the new way it's implicit through dak not nowing the source package you want to grant rights for yet. :)14:47
Laneywell, there's binNEW too14:47
Rhonda*knowing14:47
Laneyso I mean that even if it did work to add the acl you wouldn't be able to do the first upload because of this other policy14:47
RhondaHmm, right.14:47
RhondaWe should probably ask ansgar if the binNEW is still an issue.14:48
RhondaBecause the dm.txt file doesn't contain anything about binary packages.14:49
Laneyright, must be a check further down in dak14:49
RhondaNot convinced that dak does handle that or whether it was just something that the ftp assists did while new processing.14:50
RhondaAnyway, heading to a talk of Donald Knuth, see you around. :D14:51
Laneydon't try and claim you've read TAOCP14:51
DktrKranzDMs can't upload to NEW, that includes binary NEW as well14:51
Laneybah, come back Rhonda! packages.u.c doesn't have Contents for saucy!14:53
mitya57asomething: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-fonts/woff-tools.git;a=summary15:11
mitya57(wait a minute, I'll bump the timestamp)15:12
mitya57asomething: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-fonts/woff-tools.git;a=summary15:12
mitya57 (wait a minute, I'll bump the timestamp)15:12
mitya57asomething: done15:14
mitya57(in the past that worked, and I was able to upload stuff to NEW IIRC)15:14
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psusican someone explain to me what the difference is between wiki.ubuntu.com and the new help.ubuntu.com?  Is wiki obsolete?  It seems a number of pages redirect to the same page under help.ubuntu.com/community, and it feels like it is running a newer version of moinmoin.. which one should we be updating?15:38
tumbleweedpsusi: documentation belongs on help.u.c, wiki.u.c is for wiki pages that aren't documentation15:40
ScottKhelp is for users, wiki is for developers is another way to look at it.15:46
psusihrm... well I'm confused by this page then... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EngineerCertification15:46
psusiI can't decide if it was supposed to be documentation for some canonical service or something, but it appears to be long forgotten, and crufty15:47
psusiit seems to be cited on askubuntu though yet it doesn't actually provide any usable information15:48
psusiI'm tempted to just delete it...15:50
ScottKpsusi: It does say, " The below information is obsolete. "15:51
ScottKI'd just leave it.15:51
ScottKThere was an intent to do that at one time.15:51
psusiwas it ever done?15:54
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psusilooks like the project died and now there's a bunch of cruft out there...16:09
asomethingmitya57, is that repo supposed to have a pristine-tar branch? If so, you need to do a 'git push --all'16:20
mitya57asomething: I prefer debian-dir-only branches, but can push upstream also if you want16:20
asomethingnp, that works too16:21
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mitya57asomething: thank you!16:38
asomethingmitya57, no problem16:38
TheLordOfTimeanyone know anyone on the technical board?16:48
TheLordOfTimegot a question about an email that got CC'd to the bugsquad but was sent to the tech board.16:48
LaneyTheLordOfTime: https://launchpad.net/~techboard/+members16:50
TheLordOfTimeLaney:  thanks16:50
Laneytechnical-board@lists.ubuntu.com16:50
TheLordOfTimeLaney:  can anyone email that list?16:50
Laneysure16:50
TheLordOfTimebecause i'm not on the technical-board, the email was CC'd to bugsquad list16:50
Laneyyou'll be moderated unless you subscribe16:50
TheLordOfTimehence my being a tad confused on context here16:50
Laneynot quite sure what you're talking about so can't really advise16:51
TheLordOfTimeLaney:  anyone can subscribe to the technical board list?16:51
Laneyyes16:51
TheLordOfTimeor not, can't even find a subscribe page.16:51
TheLordOfTime... there we go16:52
mitya57TheLordOfTime: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/technical-board16:54
TheLordOfTimemitya57:  i already found it ;)16:55
psusiso who do you talk to when wiki.ubuntu.com is broken?17:36
ScottKpsusi: #canonical-sysadmin, I think.17:55
RhondaLaney: You aren't the first to notice that, btw.  ;)18:43
RhondaLaney: And no, I didn't read TAOCP, I was at a live talk of him over here in Vienna.18:43
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raks437Hello All22:04
raks437I guess that there is training for MOTU today in a couple of hours..22:05
raks437did I missed it ?22:13
raks437anyone..please confirm22:13
jtaylorI haven't heard of anything22:18
jtaylorit would be an unusual time, given that uds ended 6 hours ago22:19
raks437well I can see the time as 0000 Hrs UTC22:19
jtaylorwere?22:19
raks437I am at UTC + 5.3022:20
raks437so little confused...did I missed it by a day or its going to happen..22:20
jtaylorwhere did you here of the training?22:20
raks437it is actually packacging training22:21
raks437https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training22:21
raks437it says 4th Thursday of the month, 0:00 UTC22:21
jtaylorthe page was last edited 2012, I don't think thats active anymore :/22:22
jtayloralso we only have the 3rd thursday22:22
raks437by god...I am going crazy for sure..will call my doctox22:24
raks437:)22:24
jtaylor:)22:25
jtaylor< offline22:25
raks437I see you are very helpfull thanks..22:25
raks437can you guide me a little to find some easy work..22:26
raks437I a quite new and very targeted to earn MOTU thingy22:26
raks437but this ubuntu world is very big and find myself lost many times22:27

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