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| dholbach | good morning | 06:35 |
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| iulian | Morning dholbach. | 07:58 |
| dholbach | hi iulian | 08:03 |
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| asomething | mitya57, looks like I can't grant DM upload permissions on a package not yet in the archive. Do you have a link to an updated source package so I can sponsor it for you? | 14:39 |
| Rhonda | asomething: Erm, why should that work? | 14:43 |
| Rhonda | Do you want to create a chicken-egg problem? :) | 14:43 |
| asomething | Rhonda, honestly I didn't really think it would, but tried sending the dak commands anyway | 14:44 |
| Rhonda | But you are right, now that it's handled differently, it's not a chicken-egg issue anymore … | 14:44 |
| Rhonda | But in the old way of granting the right a sourceful upload was needed (and thus the package already in the pool), it doesn't change with the new way of handling it. | 14:45 |
| Laney | I thought DM disallowed NEW anyway | 14:46 |
| Rhonda | Laney: In the old way it was implicit through the required DMUA flag being in the source package in the pool. | 14:47 |
| Rhonda | In the new way it's implicit through dak not nowing the source package you want to grant rights for yet. :) | 14:47 |
| Laney | well, there's binNEW too | 14:47 |
| Rhonda | *knowing | 14:47 |
| Laney | so I mean that even if it did work to add the acl you wouldn't be able to do the first upload because of this other policy | 14:47 |
| Rhonda | Hmm, right. | 14:47 |
| Rhonda | We should probably ask ansgar if the binNEW is still an issue. | 14:48 |
| Rhonda | Because the dm.txt file doesn't contain anything about binary packages. | 14:49 |
| Laney | right, must be a check further down in dak | 14:49 |
| Rhonda | Not convinced that dak does handle that or whether it was just something that the ftp assists did while new processing. | 14:50 |
| Rhonda | Anyway, heading to a talk of Donald Knuth, see you around. :D | 14:51 |
| Laney | don't try and claim you've read TAOCP | 14:51 |
| DktrKranz | DMs can't upload to NEW, that includes binary NEW as well | 14:51 |
| Laney | bah, come back Rhonda! packages.u.c doesn't have Contents for saucy! | 14:53 |
| mitya57 | asomething: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-fonts/woff-tools.git;a=summary | 15:11 |
| mitya57 | (wait a minute, I'll bump the timestamp) | 15:12 |
| mitya57 | asomething: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-fonts/woff-tools.git;a=summary | 15:12 |
| mitya57 | (wait a minute, I'll bump the timestamp) | 15:12 |
| mitya57 | asomething: done | 15:14 |
| mitya57 | (in the past that worked, and I was able to upload stuff to NEW IIRC) | 15:14 |
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| psusi | can someone explain to me what the difference is between wiki.ubuntu.com and the new help.ubuntu.com? Is wiki obsolete? It seems a number of pages redirect to the same page under help.ubuntu.com/community, and it feels like it is running a newer version of moinmoin.. which one should we be updating? | 15:38 |
| tumbleweed | psusi: documentation belongs on help.u.c, wiki.u.c is for wiki pages that aren't documentation | 15:40 |
| ScottK | help is for users, wiki is for developers is another way to look at it. | 15:46 |
| psusi | hrm... well I'm confused by this page then... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EngineerCertification | 15:46 |
| psusi | I can't decide if it was supposed to be documentation for some canonical service or something, but it appears to be long forgotten, and crufty | 15:47 |
| psusi | it seems to be cited on askubuntu though yet it doesn't actually provide any usable information | 15:48 |
| psusi | I'm tempted to just delete it... | 15:50 |
| ScottK | psusi: It does say, " The below information is obsolete. " | 15:51 |
| ScottK | I'd just leave it. | 15:51 |
| ScottK | There was an intent to do that at one time. | 15:51 |
| psusi | was it ever done? | 15:54 |
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| psusi | looks like the project died and now there's a bunch of cruft out there... | 16:09 |
| asomething | mitya57, is that repo supposed to have a pristine-tar branch? If so, you need to do a 'git push --all' | 16:20 |
| mitya57 | asomething: I prefer debian-dir-only branches, but can push upstream also if you want | 16:20 |
| asomething | np, that works too | 16:21 |
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| mitya57 | asomething: thank you! | 16:38 |
| asomething | mitya57, no problem | 16:38 |
| TheLordOfTime | anyone know anyone on the technical board? | 16:48 |
| TheLordOfTime | got a question about an email that got CC'd to the bugsquad but was sent to the tech board. | 16:48 |
| Laney | TheLordOfTime: https://launchpad.net/~techboard/+members | 16:50 |
| TheLordOfTime | Laney: thanks | 16:50 |
| Laney | technical-board@lists.ubuntu.com | 16:50 |
| TheLordOfTime | Laney: can anyone email that list? | 16:50 |
| Laney | sure | 16:50 |
| TheLordOfTime | because i'm not on the technical-board, the email was CC'd to bugsquad list | 16:50 |
| Laney | you'll be moderated unless you subscribe | 16:50 |
| TheLordOfTime | hence my being a tad confused on context here | 16:50 |
| Laney | not quite sure what you're talking about so can't really advise | 16:51 |
| TheLordOfTime | Laney: anyone can subscribe to the technical board list? | 16:51 |
| Laney | yes | 16:51 |
| TheLordOfTime | or not, can't even find a subscribe page. | 16:51 |
| TheLordOfTime | ... there we go | 16:52 |
| mitya57 | TheLordOfTime: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/technical-board | 16:54 |
| TheLordOfTime | mitya57: i already found it ;) | 16:55 |
| psusi | so who do you talk to when wiki.ubuntu.com is broken? | 17:36 |
| ScottK | psusi: #canonical-sysadmin, I think. | 17:55 |
| Rhonda | Laney: You aren't the first to notice that, btw. ;) | 18:43 |
| Rhonda | Laney: And no, I didn't read TAOCP, I was at a live talk of him over here in Vienna. | 18:43 |
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| raks437 | Hello All | 22:04 |
| raks437 | I guess that there is training for MOTU today in a couple of hours.. | 22:05 |
| raks437 | did I missed it ? | 22:13 |
| raks437 | anyone..please confirm | 22:13 |
| jtaylor | I haven't heard of anything | 22:18 |
| jtaylor | it would be an unusual time, given that uds ended 6 hours ago | 22:19 |
| raks437 | well I can see the time as 0000 Hrs UTC | 22:19 |
| jtaylor | were? | 22:19 |
| raks437 | I am at UTC + 5.30 | 22:20 |
| raks437 | so little confused...did I missed it by a day or its going to happen.. | 22:20 |
| jtaylor | where did you here of the training? | 22:20 |
| raks437 | it is actually packacging training | 22:21 |
| raks437 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training | 22:21 |
| raks437 | it says 4th Thursday of the month, 0:00 UTC | 22:21 |
| jtaylor | the page was last edited 2012, I don't think thats active anymore :/ | 22:22 |
| jtaylor | also we only have the 3rd thursday | 22:22 |
| raks437 | by god...I am going crazy for sure..will call my doctox | 22:24 |
| raks437 | :) | 22:24 |
| jtaylor | :) | 22:25 |
| jtaylor | < offline | 22:25 |
| raks437 | I see you are very helpfull thanks.. | 22:25 |
| raks437 | can you guide me a little to find some easy work.. | 22:26 |
| raks437 | I a quite new and very targeted to earn MOTU thingy | 22:26 |
| raks437 | but this ubuntu world is very big and find myself lost many times | 22:27 |
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