=== Logan__ is now known as Logan_ === Nigel_ is now known as G === zoktar_ is now known as zoktar === Zhenech_ is now known as Zhenech| === pipedrea1 is now known as pipedream === jussi01 is now known as jussi [06:35] good morning [07:58] Morning dholbach. [08:03] hi iulian === pete-woods1 is now known as pete-woods === ivoks_ is now known as ivoks === soren_ is now known as soren === pete-woods1 is now known as pete-woods === mitya57 is now known as mitya57_ === mitya57__ is now known as mitya57 === pete-woods is now known as pete-woods|food [14:39] mitya57, looks like I can't grant DM upload permissions on a package not yet in the archive. Do you have a link to an updated source package so I can sponsor it for you? [14:43] asomething: Erm, why should that work? [14:43] Do you want to create a chicken-egg problem? :) [14:44] Rhonda, honestly I didn't really think it would, but tried sending the dak commands anyway [14:44] But you are right, now that it's handled differently, it's not a chicken-egg issue anymore … [14:45] But in the old way of granting the right a sourceful upload was needed (and thus the package already in the pool), it doesn't change with the new way of handling it. [14:46] I thought DM disallowed NEW anyway [14:47] Laney: In the old way it was implicit through the required DMUA flag being in the source package in the pool. [14:47] In the new way it's implicit through dak not nowing the source package you want to grant rights for yet. :) [14:47] well, there's binNEW too [14:47] *knowing [14:47] so I mean that even if it did work to add the acl you wouldn't be able to do the first upload because of this other policy [14:47] Hmm, right. [14:48] We should probably ask ansgar if the binNEW is still an issue. [14:49] Because the dm.txt file doesn't contain anything about binary packages. [14:49] right, must be a check further down in dak [14:50] Not convinced that dak does handle that or whether it was just something that the ftp assists did while new processing. [14:51] Anyway, heading to a talk of Donald Knuth, see you around. :D [14:51] don't try and claim you've read TAOCP [14:51] DMs can't upload to NEW, that includes binary NEW as well [14:53] bah, come back Rhonda! packages.u.c doesn't have Contents for saucy! [15:11] asomething: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-fonts/woff-tools.git;a=summary [15:12] (wait a minute, I'll bump the timestamp) [15:12] asomething: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-fonts/woff-tools.git;a=summary [15:12] (wait a minute, I'll bump the timestamp) [15:14] asomething: done [15:14] (in the past that worked, and I was able to upload stuff to NEW IIRC) === mitya57 is now known as mitya57_ === pete-woods|food is now known as pete-woods [15:38] can someone explain to me what the difference is between wiki.ubuntu.com and the new help.ubuntu.com? Is wiki obsolete? It seems a number of pages redirect to the same page under help.ubuntu.com/community, and it feels like it is running a newer version of moinmoin.. which one should we be updating? [15:40] psusi: documentation belongs on help.u.c, wiki.u.c is for wiki pages that aren't documentation [15:46] help is for users, wiki is for developers is another way to look at it. [15:46] hrm... well I'm confused by this page then... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EngineerCertification [15:47] I can't decide if it was supposed to be documentation for some canonical service or something, but it appears to be long forgotten, and crufty [15:48] it seems to be cited on askubuntu though yet it doesn't actually provide any usable information [15:50] I'm tempted to just delete it... [15:51] psusi: It does say, " The below information is obsolete. " [15:51] I'd just leave it. [15:51] There was an intent to do that at one time. [15:54] was it ever done? === mitya57_ is now known as mitya57 === chrisccoulson is now known as firefox-is-aweso === firefox-is-aweso is now known as chrisccoulson [16:09] looks like the project died and now there's a bunch of cruft out there... [16:20] mitya57, is that repo supposed to have a pristine-tar branch? If so, you need to do a 'git push --all' [16:20] asomething: I prefer debian-dir-only branches, but can push upstream also if you want [16:21] np, that works too === warp10` is now known as warp10 [16:38] asomething: thank you! [16:38] mitya57, no problem [16:48] anyone know anyone on the technical board? [16:48] got a question about an email that got CC'd to the bugsquad but was sent to the tech board. [16:50] TheLordOfTime: https://launchpad.net/~techboard/+members [16:50] Laney: thanks [16:50] technical-board@lists.ubuntu.com [16:50] Laney: can anyone email that list? [16:50] sure [16:50] because i'm not on the technical-board, the email was CC'd to bugsquad list [16:50] you'll be moderated unless you subscribe [16:50] hence my being a tad confused on context here [16:51] not quite sure what you're talking about so can't really advise [16:51] Laney: anyone can subscribe to the technical board list? [16:51] yes [16:51] or not, can't even find a subscribe page. [16:52] ... there we go [16:54] TheLordOfTime: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/technical-board [16:55] mitya57: i already found it ;) [17:36] so who do you talk to when wiki.ubuntu.com is broken? [17:55] psusi: #canonical-sysadmin, I think. [18:43] Laney: You aren't the first to notice that, btw. ;) [18:43] Laney: And no, I didn't read TAOCP, I was at a live talk of him over here in Vienna. === Zic is now known as Guest65132 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [22:04] Hello All [22:05] I guess that there is training for MOTU today in a couple of hours.. [22:13] did I missed it ? [22:13] anyone..please confirm [22:18] I haven't heard of anything [22:19] it would be an unusual time, given that uds ended 6 hours ago [22:19] well I can see the time as 0000 Hrs UTC [22:19] were? [22:20] I am at UTC + 5.30 [22:20] so little confused...did I missed it by a day or its going to happen.. [22:20] where did you here of the training? [22:21] it is actually packacging training [22:21] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Packaging/Training [22:21] it says 4th Thursday of the month, 0:00 UTC [22:22] the page was last edited 2012, I don't think thats active anymore :/ [22:22] also we only have the 3rd thursday [22:24] by god...I am going crazy for sure..will call my doctox [22:24] :) [22:25] :) [22:25] < offline [22:25] I see you are very helpfull thanks.. [22:26] can you guide me a little to find some easy work.. [22:26] I a quite new and very targeted to earn MOTU thingy [22:27] but this ubuntu world is very big and find myself lost many times