[05:05] <pitti> Good morning
[05:12] <JoseeAntonioR> hello, pitti
[06:50] <jibel> good morning
[06:52] <JoseeAntonioR> hey, jibel
[06:53] <jibel> morning JoseeAntonioR
[06:54] <JoseeAntonioR> everything going good? :)
[06:59] <jibel> yeah, life is good :)
[07:26] <pitti> jibel: bonjour
[07:26] <pitti> jibel: FYI, I pushed two rather obvious fixes to lp:otto this morning, to make it work at all again
[07:26] <pitti> jibel: but I sent a MP for the loop mounting, as this is debatable
[07:30] <pitti> jibel: btw, does shutting down the container work for you? I never get back to my production system afterwards, so I usually lxc-kill it (which works fine)
[07:41] <jibel> pitti, thanks for the fixes
[07:42] <jibel> pitti, when I shutdown the container vt7 freezes and I cannot change to another vt, is it what you're seing?
[07:44] <pitti> jibel: I either get a completely black screen, or I see the container's VTx with "halt", and then Ctrl+Alt+Fn doesn't work any more
[07:44] <pitti> I can only SysRq
[07:46] <jibel> pitti, here just vt7 is dead, but if I restart the container or lightdm over sssh it's back
[07:46] <jibel> *ssh
[07:46] <pitti> jibel: I start otto from VT1 (and shut down lightdm before)
[08:07] <jibel> pitti, I like your patch for the loop mounting. The idea behind the cache was to restart a test without specifying the image and reuse the same than previous run. But the loop mount offers much better performance, I'll merge it and just create a symlink to the image in the container directory then use it if it exists and -i is not specified.
[08:08] <pitti> jibel: right, so we get the same effect
[09:51] <smartboyhw> gema: Thanks! I will send them an email soon.
[09:56] <gema> smartboyhw: no problem, pace yourself, no hurry
[09:57] <gema> smartboyhw: I am giving you material for months :P
[09:57] <gema> smartboyhw: thank your for such a thoughtful interview :)
[09:59] <smartboyhw> gema: :P
[10:01] <gema> smartboyhw: what do you think if vUDS? do you like it better than when we did the other one? (I mean being a remote attendee)
[10:06]  * Noskcaj feels like he missed something
[10:06] <gema> Noskcaj: are you attending UDS sessions?
[10:06] <smartboyhw> Noskcaj: Nothing much
[10:07] <Noskcaj> gema, no, i'm attending the xubuntu sessions though (they aren't proper vUDS)
[10:07] <Noskcaj> 2000UTC is 6am for me
[10:07] <gema> Noskcaj: uhhh, quite early
[10:07] <Noskcaj> i make that time, but nothing before
[10:08] <gema> Noskcaj: ack
[10:12] <knome> xubuntu most probably isn't having a hangout today, just an irc meeting.
[10:13] <knome> 20UTC is 11pm for me, and i'm more worried about my neighbours than my sleeping rhythm
[10:15] <Noskcaj> knome, ok. the combination of terrible mic, sleeping family and me still being in bed made it hard for me to talk anyway
[10:39] <mlankhorst> The autopkgtest documentation doesn't mention external testsuites, how should those be handled?
[11:09] <pitti> mlankhorst: if they are packaged, just add a dependency on it in debian/tests/control
[11:10] <pitti> mlankhorst: the mysql test does that
[11:14] <pitti> jibel: so are both packages/unity.pkgs and packages/unity.pkgs.nodeps installed? and how do they relate to unity-ppa.repo, does it make sure that *.pkgs and *.pkgs.nodeps come from that PPA, or from "whereever apt thinks it should come from"?
[11:18] <mlankhorst> pitti: well I can package xorg-integration-tests, do you mean adding a dependency to it in xorg-server, or xit?
[11:26] <pitti> mlankhorst: no, not to the package, just to the test
[11:26] <pitti> mlankhorst: debian/tests/control, not debian/control
[11:27] <pitti> mlankhorst: it's best to package them; trying to download them in you test from some random web server doesn't sound like a good idea
[11:27] <pitti> the DC has rather strict network restrictions
[11:27] <mlankhorst> ok
[11:28] <mlankhorst> what about root? I need to modprobe uinput for some
[11:45] <smartboyhw> http://smartboyhw.tk/wordpress_smartboyhw/?p=60
[11:47] <mlankhorst> pitti: what I meant is that it's a different source package too :)
[11:48] <mlankhorst> so should I add a debian/tests to xorg-server, or to xit?
[11:52] <mlankhorst> ideally it would be run from xit, since it sort of expects to be run from the source tree, without installing anything :)
[12:06] <pitti> mlankhorst: to xorg-server would make slightly more sense as those tests will be triggered whenever any (transitive) dependency of xorg-server changes
[12:06] <pitti> mlankhorst: xit won't ever be triggered by that
[12:16] <mlankhorst> yeah but xit doesn't install anything :/
[12:18] <mlankhorst> make check has to be run from inside xit's build tree for it to work correctly
[12:57] <pitti> mlankhorst: can you make xit depend on xorg-server?
[12:57] <pitti> then xit's tests would be triggered on xorg (and its dep) changes, so we'll get the same effect
[12:57] <pitti> and I guess that's actually necessary, as you need to test the installed X.org server
[13:06] <mlankhorst> sure that would be fine
[15:02] <thomi> balloons: so, I'm not sure how much of the autopilot session you were able to grok, but our plans are to support raring, saucy ONLY for autopilot 1.3.  I'm assuming this works fine with community QA people, now that raring is released?
[15:03] <balloons> thomi, yes that does sound fine.. anyone else idling here is free to comment of course
[15:03] <balloons> but everyone wanting to help test is going to be running saucy at some point.. and likely raring on there 'stable' box
[15:04] <balloons> those with precise have already made vm's to help out with autopilot stuff
[15:04] <balloons> and it works fine in there :-)
[15:04] <thomi> sweet
[15:04] <thomi> well, that's one work item knocked off the list.
[15:07] <thomi> Hello #ubuntu-quality. As part of the new autopilot changes, all the autopilot devs will hang out in #ubuntu-autopilot. If you have autopilot questions, that's the correct place to ask them
[15:07] <thomi> so come join us!
[19:17] <SergioMeneses> hi everybody
[19:17] <SergioMeneses> balloons, around?
[19:17] <balloons> SergioMeneses, closing plenary
[19:17] <SergioMeneses> balloons, ok see you later
[19:18] <balloons> SergioMeneses,  :-) you can watch if you wish
[19:18]  * elfy forgot 
[19:19] <SergioMeneses> balloons, ofcourse! I'm opening my browser
[19:19] <balloons> hehe.. I'll be giving a qa summary
[19:19] <balloons> might be useful :-p
[19:20] <balloons> i'll post it too, fingers crossed
[19:21] <SergioMeneses> balloons, sounds really nice
[19:23] <SergioMeneses> balloons, do you have the link to your session?
[19:23] <balloons> SergioMeneses, my session? we had several.. 3
[19:23] <balloons> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21716/community-s-quality-userstory/
[19:23] <balloons> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21714/community-s-quality-coverage/
[19:23] <balloons> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21713/community-s-quality-growth/
[19:23] <josepht> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21823/closing-plenary/
[19:24] <SergioMeneses> balloons, perfect! thanks
[19:34]  * balloons waves at phillw 
[19:35] <elfy> phillw: had no reply from scott - so will be going ahead shortly with that thread, I can add him in later if necessary
[19:36] <elfy> shall not be a particularly detailed thing - more a call to arms :)
[20:09] <phillw> elfy: thanks :)
[20:10] <balloons> whew.. ok, so vUDS is complete
[20:14] <SergioMeneses> balloons, \o/
[20:14] <SergioMeneses> phillw, what happen about the lubuntu software centre?
[20:27] <phillw> SergioMeneses: there is a patch :) Julien is going to get it into saucy to check it is okay and then maybe get an SRU raised as it has been broken for a while.
[20:28] <phillw> the patch works fine on my 13.04 :D
[20:29] <SergioMeneses> phillw, perfect
[20:29] <SergioMeneses> maybe you can send this information to our mailing list
[20:33] <SergioMeneses> balloons, this guide still working http://askubuntu.com/questions/233219/how-do-i-contribute-an-autopilot-test ?
[20:35] <balloons> SergioMeneses, more or less :-)
[20:36] <SergioMeneses> balloons, I am running autopilot on ubuntu12.10 and the command: autopilot list unity, send me this error
[20:36] <SergioMeneses> ImportError: No module named unity
[20:38] <phillw> SergioMeneses: the details (and the patch) are on bug 1078820 I've emailed the lubuntu-qa team about it, but it is not yet passed as ready for 'full' release.
[20:40] <SergioMeneses> balloons, solved! dont worry, my bad
[20:42] <balloons> SergioMeneses, ahh
[20:42] <SergioMeneses> balloons, but it sends a lot of errors
[20:43] <balloons> SergioMeneses, autopilot is covered on this page: http://www.darkreading.com/monitoring/google-uses-reputation-to-detect-malicio/240152413
[20:43] <balloons> lol.
[20:43] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases
[20:43] <balloons> specifically, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ContributingTestcases/Autopilot
[20:44] <balloons> We could probably clean that area up though..
[20:44] <balloons> ok, so your running on quantal tho right?>
[20:44] <balloons> quantal is no good for autopilot
[20:47] <SergioMeneses> I will update it
[20:47] <balloons> specifically autopilot 1.3 won't run on it
[20:47] <balloons> we JUST talked about this today :-)
[20:47] <balloons> lol.. yes, raring or saucy is your best bet
[20:47] <balloons> SergioMeneses, but if you find any issues, let me know.. I will update it
[20:49] <SergioMeneses> balloons, I'm trying with raring in this moment
[20:50] <SergioMeneses> if I find something wrong I'll tell you
[20:54] <balloons> SergioMeneses, great... should work fine
[20:54] <balloons> remember Letzoaf is also an expert at this :-)
[20:54] <SergioMeneses> I hope so!
[21:06] <SergioMeneses> balloons, none test works
[21:11] <balloons> SergioMeneses, so it worked or it didn't work?
[21:11] <SergioMeneses> balloons, it didnt work
[21:11] <SergioMeneses> I got the last version and I'm running raring
[21:12] <balloons> ok, so autopilot list unity
[21:12] <balloons> honestly, branching stuff from our project is more useful/interesting
[21:12] <balloons> bzr branch lp:ubuntu-autopilot-tests
[21:12] <SergioMeneses> balloons, there are 501
[21:18] <balloons> SergioMeneses, I'm confused.. what do you mean?
[21:19] <balloons> in raring, with autopilot installed you should be able to checkout and run our tests
[21:19] <SergioMeneses> lol
[21:19] <SergioMeneses> my desktop was crazy
[21:19] <balloons> or the unity tests
[21:19] <balloons> lol.. so it worked? :-)
[21:19] <SergioMeneses> balloons, I got the branch and run: $ autopilot list helloworld
[21:19] <balloons> nice!
[21:19] <SergioMeneses> and plop... no screen
[21:20] <SergioMeneses> balloons, it doesnt work... I mean testcases doesnt run, send error
[21:21] <balloons> SergioMeneses, ahh what error.
[21:21] <balloons> I will say, english locale is needed for pretty much everything
[21:21] <balloons> they'll run without it, but will fail to run successfully
[21:22] <balloons> as most of the time, we're looking for english labels, etc
[21:23] <SergioMeneses> balloons, look http://paste.ubuntu.com/5672215/
[21:23] <SergioMeneses> balloons, oh
[21:23] <SergioMeneses> let me try
[21:23] <balloons> ahh.. ok, so it's running fine
[21:23] <balloons> tests are just failing
[21:24] <balloons> I mean, that's good.. lol
[21:24] <SergioMeneses> o0
[21:24] <SergioMeneses> but it doesnt work
[21:24] <balloons> bad the tests fail, but good in that it's working :-)
[21:24] <SergioMeneses> balloons, let me check the language
[21:24] <SergioMeneses> because tests arent working
[21:25] <balloons> ahh.. some of the tests will fail at certain points
[21:25] <balloons> the unity stuff I've no idea
[21:25] <balloons> it's not important as the unity team runs and maintains those
[21:25] <balloons> try running our firefox test
[21:25] <balloons> that should work
[21:25] <SergioMeneses> balloons, and for run our own tests?
[21:26] <SergioMeneses> balloons, and how  ca I do it?
[21:26] <SergioMeneses> I get the branch ...so
[21:26] <SergioMeneses> http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/11/getting-started-with-autopilot.html
[21:31] <Noskcaj> phillw, we are discussing adding LSC to xubuntu. come over to #xubuntu-devel
[21:33] <balloons> SergioMeneses, sure.. let's go through it
[21:34] <SergioMeneses> balloons, I have the folderubuntu-autopilot-tests
[21:35] <balloons> SergioMeneses, one sec
[21:36] <SergioMeneses> relog
[21:44] <balloons> bah.. lost SergioMeneses :-(
[21:45] <elfy> no you haven't balloons
[21:46] <SergioMeneses> I'm back
[21:47] <elfy> see :p
[21:48] <balloons> yea!
[21:49] <balloons> he's back
[21:49] <SergioMeneses> me?
[21:49] <SergioMeneses> balloons, look http://paste.ubuntu.com/5672279/
[21:49] <balloons> yes you :-)
[21:49] <balloons> do an ls from that paste SergioMeneses
[21:50] <SergioMeneses> balloons, -> debian     setup.py        ubuntu_autopilot_tests
[21:51] <balloons> SergioMeneses, cd into ubuntu_autopilot_tests
[21:51] <balloons> then your command will work
[21:51] <balloons> if you ls that, you'll see all the testcases
[21:51] <SergioMeneses> balloons, kk
[21:52] <SergioMeneses> balloons, here ~/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/ubuntu_autopilot_tests/helloworld$
[21:52] <SergioMeneses> ???
[21:52] <balloons> from here: ~/ubuntu-autopilot-tests/ubuntu_autopilot_tests/
[21:52] <SergioMeneses> kk
[21:53] <balloons> the testsuite is the folder name
[21:53] <balloons> that's how autopilot will search
[21:53] <balloons> so you have to be one directory above the testsuite folder
[21:53] <SergioMeneses> nice
[21:54] <SergioMeneses> beautiful :)
[21:56] <SergioMeneses> balloons, it works!
[21:56] <SergioMeneses> helloworld tests
[21:56] <balloons> :-)
[21:56] <SergioMeneses> but gedit tests dont
[21:56] <balloons> so not everything in there will work perfectly, but they all should run
[22:01] <SergioMeneses> balloons, thanks for your time :D
[22:04] <balloons> SergioMeneses, ty :-) we'll be playing with these testcases again very soon
[22:04] <balloons> so have at it
[22:04] <balloons> :-)
[22:31] <SergioMeneses> balloons, jejeje it was a nice run