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| adam_g | Daviey, 2012.2.4 + 2013.1.1 updates in their respective ubuntu release upload queue and cloud-archive stagings, waiting for approval | 00:52 |
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| nicekiwi | can someone help me restart my server? | 06:15 |
| sarnold | nicekiwi: normally that's just "sudo shutdown -r now" -- is there something more to it? :) | 06:16 |
| sarnold | nicekiwi: .. are you worried that e.g. sshd might not come back up and you'll have to drive to a datacenter? | 06:16 |
| nicekiwi | well, the apache server in particular. It keeps saying "Fail" when i restart it | 06:17 |
| sarnold | ah :) | 06:17 |
| nicekiwi | the error log does not seem to contain useful information | 06:17 |
| sarnold | nicekiwi: check /var/log/apache* directories... might be something useful there? | 06:17 |
| nicekiwi | unfortunatly not | 06:17 |
| sarnold | nicekiwi: can you pastebin how you're trying to restart it, what output you get, and any log messages that might be generated at the same time? | 06:18 |
| nicekiwi | the only real error im getting is "[Thu May 16 10:16:11 2013] [error] Server should be SSL-aware but has no certificate configured [Hint: SSLCertificateFile] ((null):0)" | 06:19 |
| sarnold | aha :) well, it does say 'error' rather than 'warning', might as well assume that's the problem.. | 06:20 |
| sarnold | nicekiwi: do you expect this server to serve SSL/TLS? | 06:20 |
| nicekiwi | yes | 06:20 |
| sarnold | nicekiwi: do you have a SSLCertificateFile directive somewhere in the configuration? | 06:20 |
| nicekiwi | yes | 06:21 |
| sarnold | nicekiwi: does ls -l on that filename look right? | 06:22 |
| sarnold | nicekiwi: also check ls -ld on all directories above the file.. perhaps permissions are incorrect on a directory (it can be easy to overlook these..) | 06:22 |
| nicekiwi | what should the permissions be? | 06:23 |
| nicekiwi | for /etc/ssl/certs/ | 06:23 |
| sarnold | nicekiwi: for /etc/ssl/certs, root:root 755 | 06:24 |
| nicekiwi | i mean everything appears correct | 06:24 |
| nicekiwi | drwx-xr-x | 06:24 |
| sarnold | okay, good | 06:24 |
| nicekiwi | sarnold, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5669904/ | 06:26 |
| sarnold | heh, you're right, not very useful :) | 06:27 |
| nicekiwi | yeah :/ | 06:27 |
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| sarnold | nicekiwi: the last two comments here look useful: http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-6561.html | 06:32 |
| nicekiwi | hmm.. in both of those they upgraded apche, I havnt changed anything :/. | 06:35 |
| sarnold | nicekiwi: it did seem like grasping at straws | 06:36 |
| nicekiwi | sarnold, fixed it! :D See point #3 http://imranbhullar.blogspot.co.nz/2012/07/server-should-be-ssl-aware-but-has-no.html | 06:37 |
| sarnold | nicekiwi: woah. | 06:37 |
| sarnold | nicekiwi: I saw that page and figured the dude couldn't possibly be right... | 06:37 |
| sarnold | nicekiwi: thanks :) now I can go to bed happy. | 06:38 |
| nicekiwi | lol.. i just opened heaps of sites and that happend to be the first one :P | 06:38 |
| nicekiwi | sarnold, yes you can. thanks for your help :) | 06:38 |
| sarnold | I wonder how it came that the error message is -so- vastly wrong compared to the cause.. | 06:38 |
| nicekiwi | yeah :/ not really sure eh | 06:39 |
| Daviey | rbasak: thanks for kicking off the thread. | 07:12 |
| rbasak | np | 07:12 |
| mah454 | Hello | 07:24 |
| mah454 | /etc/shadow is sha-512 or sha-256 ? | 07:25 |
| mah454 | find ... | 07:26 |
| rbasak | mah454: see the crypt(3) manpage, and look up the id in the hash in your shadow file against the table in the manpage. /etc/shadow supports multiple schemes at once. | 07:31 |
| Daviey | rbasak: regarding bug 1180094, zul yesterday planned to discuss it with slangasek.. If we need to switch for support in LTS, it would be better to do this cycle IMO. | 07:46 |
| uvirtbot` | Launchpad bug 1180094 in samba "Update to 4.0" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1180094 | 07:46 |
| rbasak | Daviey: oh, OK. I didn't realise it was remotely near the cards. | 07:46 |
| Daviey | rbasak: Would "Wishlist, Incomplete" make more sense? | 07:47 |
| rbasak | Daviey, zul: what's the need to go ahead of Debian here? | 07:47 |
| Daviey | rbasak: Well, zul raised it yesterday - and broadly, *might* make sense? | 07:47 |
| Daviey | rbasak: I agree about desktop needing to be involved. At base, it would be good for smb4 to get more exposure *IF* it needs to be standard for the next cycle. | 07:48 |
| Daviey | But then, smb3 might still be ok for LTS.. so i don't know. | 07:48 |
| rbasak | AIUI, samba4 is useful for server people wanting to emulate AD. For this use case, the samba4 packages are available. | 07:49 |
| rbasak | AIUI, samba3 is fine for everyone else, but perhaps I'm mistaken. | 07:49 |
| rbasak | Oh. Upstream list 4.x as current stable. | 07:50 |
| Senor | what is the relation between ubuntu and debian ? | 07:51 |
| rbasak | Senor: good question! http://askubuntu.com/questions/1336/how-is-ubuntu-different-from-debian has some answers if that helps you. | 07:53 |
| rbasak | SpamapS: ^^ some nostalgia for you perhaps? :) | 07:53 |
| Senor | rbasak:I am trying to implement one game server on linux , which distro is the best ? | 07:54 |
| rbasak | Senor: Ubuntu Server, of course. What a silly question! :) | 07:54 |
| * rbasak notes that this is the #ubuntu-server channel, so answers here might be a bit biased. | 07:55 | |
| Senor | is ubuntu distro open source ? | 07:56 |
| rbasak | Senor: essentially yes, with the exception of restricted and multiverse (like non-free in Debian). See: http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/ubuntu-policy/policy.html/ch-archive.html#s-ulp for details. | 08:09 |
| RoyK | Senor: yes | 08:21 |
| RoyK | Senor: or what rbasak said | 08:21 |
| Alina-malina | Hello all! Is there any mail caching server. For example the office has a very low internet connection, but the workers sending e-mails so e-mails go very slow and the most of the time workers have to wait for the process rather then typing e-mails. How it is possible to make work with yahoo, gmal and other e-mail services? So the workers submit their e-mails to that server, and server during 5-6 hours login to their accounts an | 08:59 |
| Alina-malina | d send | 08:59 |
| Alina-malina | those messages? | 09:00 |
| Alina-malina | anyone? | 09:05 |
| Alina-malina | Do i need a separate caching computer to chache the stuff there and execute with queue? | 09:10 |
| caribou | Daviey: Hi, just saw your update of the rsyslog SRU being blocked by another inflight SRU (from stokachu) | 09:19 |
| caribou | Daviey: anything that must be done ? | 09:19 |
| Alina-malina | do i need a proxy caching serve?R How it works? | 09:19 |
| Senor | RoyK: I have installed ubuntu 10.4.2 server ,but why no step for password root? | 09:21 |
| Senor | and no root account | 09:21 |
| RoyK | Senor: because root normally don't have a password, login as your own user and run sudo -i | 09:22 |
| Daviey | caribou: Well the other SRU needs verification, that would help unblock it :) | 09:23 |
| caribou | Daviey: ok, I'll coordinate with Adam | 09:23 |
| Daviey | caribou: Thanks muchly | 09:24 |
| Senor | RoyK:That is ok! | 09:24 |
| Senor | RoyK:Is ubuntu server the best for deploying my gameserver? | 09:24 |
| RoyK | any linux distro should work | 09:25 |
| RoyK | up to you | 09:25 |
| Senor | which kernel version ubuntu server 10.4.2 is using ? | 09:26 |
| RoyK | Senor: 10.04.4 runs 2.6.32-38-server - you should upgrade to at least 10.04.4 (apt-get dist-upgrade), or perhaps to 12.04 | 09:27 |
| Alina-malina | Hello all! Is there any mail caching server. For example the office has a very low internet connection, but the workers sending e-mails so e-mails go very slow and the most of the time workers have to wait for the process rather then typing e-mails. How it is possible to make work with yahoo, gmal and other e-mail services? So the workers submit their e-mails to that server, and server during 5-6 hours login to their accounts an | 09:29 |
| Alina-malina | d send messages? Or do i need some webcaching proxy server? Are those secure? What is the secure webcaching server if any exist that can handle my request? | 09:29 |
| Daviey | Alina-malina: If the user wants to use gmail, yahoo or other WEB UI - it is not a good idea to interfere. | 09:30 |
| Daviey | Alina-malina: if they are using a local mail client, such as thunderbird or outlook - you can help. | 09:31 |
| Alina-malina | Daviey, maybe i should put a separate computer and route the traffic to it and that machine queue the requests and send during some hours like? | 09:31 |
| Daviey | caribou: If you can get Adam's verified today - we can get yours in to proposed today | 09:32 |
| Daviey | Alina-malina: right, that is something you can do. But only smart for IMAP or Pop3 and smtp | 09:32 |
| caribou | Daviey: won't both fixes interfere ? I suppose that my SRU don't have Adam's patch | 09:33 |
| Alina-malina | Daviey, how i can do that? Is there any manuals? i never did anything like that before, i just have imagination:) | 09:34 |
| Senor | RoyK: Does debian branch from ubuntu ? | 09:37 |
| RoyK | Senor: no, it started with debian | 09:48 |
| Senor | RoyK: where can I get the distro's source code ? include login relevent programes . | 09:56 |
| Daviey | caribou: Your update does include Adam | 09:59 |
| Daviey | 's, no? | 09:59 |
| caribou | Daviey: lemme check | 09:59 |
| Daviey | caribou: The idea is that Adam's can be released to updates, and yours can then enter proposed. Currently proposed is blocked with Adam's | 10:00 |
| Daviey | Alina-malina: I'm sorry, I am unable to spend the time helping atm | 10:00 |
| caribou | Daviey: yeah, but if mine doesn't have Adam's patch, there's no point into getting it into proposed. I should rework mine | 10:00 |
| * caribou goes to check his | 10:00 | |
| rbasak | Senor: I suggest you ask in #ubuntu for questions that aren't server-specific. I think there are more people there who will be able to help you. | 10:01 |
| Daviey | caribou: http://pb.daviey.com/zCDO/ | 10:02 |
| Alina-malina | Daviey, what is atm? | 10:02 |
| Daviey | Alina-malina: At The Moment | 10:02 |
| Senor | rbasak:oh,yes | 10:03 |
| caribou | Daviey: yep, the Raring one does. I don't know if Adam's patch applies to Precise but I think it does | 10:03 |
| Daviey | caribou: Ah, i only looked at the Raring candidate so far | 10:04 |
| caribou | Daviey: ah, ok. | 10:05 |
| RoyK | Senor: apt/get source packagename | 10:07 |
| Senor | RoyK:qpt-get source ubuntu? | 10:07 |
| RoyK | Senor: no, linux distros consist of thousands of packages, each for a program or set of programs. those you can apt-get source | 10:13 |
| Senor | how canI config my source get mirror ? | 10:18 |
| Daviey | Senor: There is a bit of an expectation that you do some searching yourself for answers, and using this channel to help fill in the gaps. | 10:31 |
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| yolanda | Daviey, is ok that i start packaging testlib to reuse that on our dep-8-tests? | 13:11 |
| Daviey | yolanda: super idea | 13:31 |
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| Daviey | adam_g: I accepted your openstack uploads, but at least one will be superseeded today - so you'll need to rebase | 14:36 |
| adam_g | Daviey, i only saw the quantal-proposed get accepted. did the raring-proposed go in as well? | 14:37 |
| Daviey | adam_g: will be shortly | 14:38 |
| BlueShark | Hi, | 15:59 |
| BlueShark | I'm trying to set up OpenVPN on my Debian VPS. I followed the instructions on http://aahank.com/2013/debian-ubuntu-vpn-server/ . But when I try to do "/etc/init.d/openvpn start", it's giving the error "Starting virtual private network daemon: filmygirl failed!". What could be wrong? | 15:59 |
| BlueShark | This is what I found when I did "grep ovpn /var/log/syslog" : http://pastie.org/private/i7ljwz8qidykztwai2nkuq . But I can't figure out what's wrong. Could someone help? | 15:59 |
| rbasak | BlueShark: 503 Service Unavailable when I look at that pastebin. Try another one - eg. paste.ubuntu.com? | 16:02 |
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| megha | do vmware, kvm, qemu works flawlessly with ubuntu ? | 16:09 |
| megha | because in arch linux i am fed up of config things after each kernel upgrade.. :( | 16:10 |
| megha | is that the case with ubuntu too ? | 16:10 |
| yolanda | jdstrand, i verified SRU this morning, and updated the related bugs | 16:11 |
| rbasak | megha: KVM Just Works for me. I can't speak for VMware. | 16:13 |
| megha | rbasak: kvm works flawlessly ? | 16:13 |
| rbasak | megha: for me, yes. | 16:13 |
| megha | it good than... | 16:14 |
| jacobw | Nothing works flawlessly | 16:14 |
| megha | rbasak: what should be my ideal choice ubuntu server or ubuntu-desktop.. | 16:15 |
| megha | jacobw: yeah you are right... | 16:15 |
| jacobw | It depends what issues you have with Arch that you don't want to have with Ubuntu | 16:15 |
| megha | but frequent probs is not a good sign... | 16:15 |
| jacobw | What's your use case? | 16:15 |
| megha | i am coding for Freebsd, so i need to run it in KVM and qemu. as i would be testing for different platforms.. | 16:16 |
| megha | jacobw: in arch linux a new kernel version in 15 days, and i have to config and install modules again. that's waste of time, when you have limited time left in your hand.. | 16:17 |
| jacobw | OK, then you'll want to run a VM on your desktop | 16:17 |
| rbasak | For coding, I'd use desktop with libvirt and virt-manager. Though virt-manager doesn't anything close to the snapshot UI that VirtualBox has. | 16:17 |
| jacobw | Arch is rolling release whereas Ubuntu isn't, the breakages with Arch are a consequence of the rolling release scheme | 16:18 |
| jacobw | Lot's of developers use Vagrant | 16:19 |
| jacobw | * Lots | 16:19 |
| jacobw | https://github.com/xironix/freebsd-vagrant/blob/master/README.md | 16:20 |
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| megha | jacobw: that link is really cool.. | 16:24 |
| megha | should i switch to virtualbox from vmware.... as i never have used virtualbox before.. | 16:24 |
| jcastro | ubuntu will still rebuild the kernel modules on upgrade | 16:29 |
| jcastro | it's automatic though | 16:29 |
| jcastro | it's about an extra minute when the package is upgraded on my machine | 16:29 |
| megha | jcastro: :) | 16:33 |
| jacobw | megha: Vagrant is pretty awesome | 16:33 |
| megha | yeah.. | 16:34 |
| jdstrand | adam_g: arg, bug #1179626 | 16:35 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1179626 in quantum "Meta bug for tracking Openstack 2013.1.1 Stable Update" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1179626 | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | adam_g: I'm trying to get keystone and nova out | 16:35 |
| adam_g | jdstrand, go for it. ill rebase on you, those were just accepted to proposed today | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | adam_g: ok, keystone already has it: 1166670 | 16:37 |
| jdstrand | so that will only be nova | 16:37 |
| jdstrand | adam_g: you could get ahead of it and just apply https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/a4fc0c800502338e4530cad910efb64a5483e1ea | 16:38 |
| adam_g | jdstrand, you're planning on releasing them as security updates based on whats in -updates currently, right? | 16:40 |
| jdstrand | adam_g: for raring, it is based on 1:2013.1-0ubuntu2 | 16:41 |
| jdstrand | adam_g: for precise, I based keystone and nova on -proposed and am waiting on the packages to migrate since they are now verification-done | 16:42 |
| jdstrand | adam_g: so I'm suggesting you just apply https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/a4fc0c800502338e4530cad910efb64a5483e1ea to 1:2013.1.1-0ubuntu1 and reupload | 16:43 |
| adam_g | jdstrand, right, we will. but that patch is going to go out as a security update in the meantime based on 1:2013.1-0ubuntu2? | 16:44 |
| jdstrand | adam_g: that was my plan, yes | 16:45 |
| jdstrand | adam_g: so I do my thing, you cherrypick that patch for -proposed and we're both good | 16:46 |
| adam_g | jdstrand, okay. ill rebase on your update when its out, to preserve changelog history and patch references | 16:46 |
| jdstrand | that'll work too | 16:46 |
| adam_g | jdstrand, thanks for keeping us posted (yesterday, too) | 16:46 |
| jdstrand | adam_g: np | 16:50 |
| jdstrand | adam_g: well, some goes for quantal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/1179707/comments/7 | 17:19 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1179707 in quantum "Meta bug for tracking OpenStack 2012.2.4 Stable Update" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 17:19 |
| jdstrand | adam_g: (but it is both nova and keystone that need updates) | 17:20 |
| adam_g | jdstrand, k thanks | 17:22 |
| jdstrand | adam_g: yesterday I thought it was implied that me trying to get an update out for precise meant that quantal and raring were needed to. I'll try to be more explicit next time | 17:24 |
| jdstrand | (sorry) | 17:24 |
| Daviey | jdstrand: Don't worry, i already briefed adam_g with the expectation we'd need to rebase these recent ones | 17:39 |
| jdstrand | :) | 17:39 |
| Daviey | At least i thought i did.. | 17:40 |
| mdeslaur | So, what's the status of md in precise...is it working ok now? I have two mirrored sata disks running 10.04, and was holding off upgrading... | 17:51 |
| K4k | Is there a way, perhaps through editing isolinux/gfxboot.cfg to remove the language prompt and install/try screen from the install CD? | 18:45 |
| sarnold | K4k: investigate preseed files | 18:45 |
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| K4k | sarnold: That's what I'm working on now, I've created a preseed that automates _everything_ but the language select prompt before I select the preseed boot option for install | 18:54 |
| K4k | none of the locale or language d-i settings seem to affect it, only thing I've found so far is something mentioning hacking up gfxboot.inc but I'm not building this on an ubuntu or debian system so I don't have access to that tool. | 18:55 |
| mojtaba | Hi, Does anybody know how can I make a full backup of my server with rsnapshot? (I mean databases, files, emails, ...) | 19:06 |
| RoyK | mojtaba: I don't use rsnapshot, never had, but if it does an rdiff/rsync backup, it should work. but what database(s)? | 19:08 |
| mojtaba | RoyK: mysqls | 19:09 |
| mojtaba | RoyK: The problem with rsync is that I must use sudo | 19:10 |
| RoyK | mysql should be dumped regularly - backing up mysql data files may lead to inconcistency | 19:10 |
| RoyK | so if you dump the mysql dbs and backup the dumps, it shouldn't be much of an issue | 19:10 |
| RoyK | postgresql is better in most ways (tm) | 19:11 |
| mojtaba | RoyK: Actually I am pretty new to linux and this is my first time I am going to backup in this way. | 19:11 |
| mojtaba | Can you help me to figure it up. | 19:11 |
| RoyK | mojtaba: see mysqldump - dump the mysql databases somewhere and backup the dump files | 19:12 |
| RoyK | as in | 19:12 |
| RoyK | mysqldump --all-databases -uUSER -pPASSWORD > /var/backup/mysql-`date -I`.sql | 19:13 |
| RoyK | or something | 19:13 |
| RoyK | add that to cron | 19:13 |
| mojtaba | what does dump do exactly? | 19:16 |
| mojtaba | RoyK: | 19:16 |
| RoyK | mojtaba: it dumps the whole database(s) to SQL code so that it can be recreated easily - try it on a test db | 19:17 |
| K4k | meh, setting the isolinux.cfg timeout to 1 works well enough. I still get the prompt but it skips it faster than someone can react in order to change it. | 19:17 |
| mojtaba | RoyK: ok, thanks. | 19:17 |
| Black_Knight | roger | 19:17 |
| resno | RoyK: do you have to stop mysql or can you dump and keep moving? | 19:18 |
| RoyK | no, it needs to be running | 19:19 |
| resno | lol | 19:19 |
| resno | wow, i asked that question | 19:20 |
| resno | thats not how i meant it | 19:20 |
| resno | ill justleave it there though | 19:20 |
| RoyK | you can't dump a mysql db without the DBMS running :P | 19:21 |
| resno | maybe i can the db binaries? | 19:21 |
| RoyK | no reason | 19:21 |
| RoyK | just dump the db while it's running | 19:21 |
| resno | no, im just being silly | 19:21 |
| bcessa | hi, just a doubt, can you recommend an available open source alternative to the landscape service? thnx | 20:11 |
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| hallyn | stgraber: heh, you know, I *do* have an error_string in the lxc_container struct since day 1. just never got around to using it yet :) | 21:29 |
| stgraber | hallyn: ;) | 21:31 |
| hallyn | anyway got shutdown and stop converted, will do destroy and create and send off | 21:32 |
| Rick28 | Hey. I want to mount one folder from server A at server B. There should be read/write access just like a usual folder. What is the best protocol / FS for this? Are there better options than WebDAV? | 21:34 |
| sarnold | Rick28: investigate nfs and cifs | 21:35 |
| Rick28 | Thanks sarnold. | 21:35 |
| Rick28 | sarnold, What would you prefer? nfs or WebDAV for non sensitive big data transfer. | 21:39 |
| Rick28 | over the net | 21:40 |
| sarnold | Rick28: I'd prefer NFS, it does a better job of providing posix-style filesystem gaurantees | 21:42 |
| Rick28 | thanks | 21:42 |
| sarnold | Rick28: cifs if I had to work with windows-like systems too | 21:42 |
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| dewdrop | Hi I am root, can I login to a user who doesn't have shell access? | 22:28 |
| dewdrop | sudo su username says shell access is not enabled for the user. There must be a way root can login into a suer right | 22:30 |
| sarnold | dewdrop: if 'sudo -u name -s' doesn't work, 'sudo -u name bash' should work.. | 22:30 |
| ScottK | sudo -i then su name should work too. | 22:31 |
| dewdrop | sarnold: thanks, 'sudo -u name -s' works | 22:31 |
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| * fortmac is away: I'm busy | 22:56 | |
| nsahoo | hi. /boot ran out of space. I tried to remove the old kernels using dpkg directly. However, now I am getting some dependency error and can't fix it. | 22:58 |
| nsahoo | it's asking me to run apt-get -f install, which fails saying, "dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-server" | 22:59 |
| sarnold | nsahoo: when /boot is full, I think removing one or two kernels by hand _before_ removing them by dpkg is the best approach.. | 23:00 |
| nsahoo | sarnold: after removing using dpkg, i freed some space. Now it's failing because of some dependency issues. Let me post a paste bin link | 23:01 |
| nsahoo | here is the paste bin link | 23:02 |
| nsahoo | http://pastebin.com/LRQ2QNwt | 23:02 |
| nsahoo | some more information : http://pastebin.com/Nn2ELaMP | 23:03 |
| jdstrand | adam_g: fyi, nova and keystone published for precise-raring | 23:06 |
| * jdstrand -> out | 23:06 | |
| GrueMaster | nsahoo: Have you tried running "sudo dpkg --configure -a" ? It might help to fix this. | 23:48 |
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