=== markthomas_ is now known as markthomas [00:52] Daviey, 2012.2.4 + 2013.1.1 updates in their respective ubuntu release upload queue and cloud-archive stagings, waiting for approval === jeffsi_ is now known as jeffsi === koolhead17|afk is now known as koolhead17 === Nigel_ is now known as G === VD is now known as Guest67615 === Bilge- is now known as Bilge === EntropyWorks_ is now known as EntropyWorks === iarp_ is now known as iarp === kirkland is now known as Guest3570 === dewdrop_ is now known as dewdrop === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [06:15] can someone help me restart my server? [06:16] nicekiwi: normally that's just "sudo shutdown -r now" -- is there something more to it? :) [06:16] nicekiwi: .. are you worried that e.g. sshd might not come back up and you'll have to drive to a datacenter? [06:17] well, the apache server in particular. It keeps saying "Fail" when i restart it [06:17] ah :) [06:17] the error log does not seem to contain useful information [06:17] nicekiwi: check /var/log/apache* directories... might be something useful there? [06:17] unfortunatly not [06:18] nicekiwi: can you pastebin how you're trying to restart it, what output you get, and any log messages that might be generated at the same time? [06:19] the only real error im getting is "[Thu May 16 10:16:11 2013] [error] Server should be SSL-aware but has no certificate configured [Hint: SSLCertificateFile] ((null):0)" [06:20] aha :) well, it does say 'error' rather than 'warning', might as well assume that's the problem.. [06:20] nicekiwi: do you expect this server to serve SSL/TLS? [06:20] yes [06:20] nicekiwi: do you have a SSLCertificateFile directive somewhere in the configuration? [06:21] yes [06:22] nicekiwi: does ls -l on that filename look right? [06:22] nicekiwi: also check ls -ld on all directories above the file.. perhaps permissions are incorrect on a directory (it can be easy to overlook these..) [06:23] what should the permissions be? [06:23] for /etc/ssl/certs/ [06:24] nicekiwi: for /etc/ssl/certs, root:root 755 [06:24] i mean everything appears correct [06:24] drwx-xr-x [06:24] okay, good [06:26] sarnold, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5669904/ [06:27] heh, you're right, not very useful :) [06:27] yeah :/ === jussi01 is now known as jussi [06:32] nicekiwi: the last two comments here look useful: http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-6561.html [06:35] hmm.. in both of those they upgraded apche, I havnt changed anything :/. [06:36] nicekiwi: it did seem like grasping at straws [06:37] sarnold, fixed it! :D See point #3 http://imranbhullar.blogspot.co.nz/2012/07/server-should-be-ssl-aware-but-has-no.html [06:37] nicekiwi: woah. [06:37] nicekiwi: I saw that page and figured the dude couldn't possibly be right... [06:38] nicekiwi: thanks :) now I can go to bed happy. [06:38] lol.. i just opened heaps of sites and that happend to be the first one :P [06:38] sarnold, yes you can. thanks for your help :) [06:38] I wonder how it came that the error message is -so- vastly wrong compared to the cause.. [06:39] yeah :/ not really sure eh [07:12] rbasak: thanks for kicking off the thread. [07:12] np [07:24] Hello [07:25] /etc/shadow is sha-512 or sha-256 ? [07:26] find ... [07:31] mah454: see the crypt(3) manpage, and look up the id in the hash in your shadow file against the table in the manpage. /etc/shadow supports multiple schemes at once. [07:46] rbasak: regarding bug 1180094, zul yesterday planned to discuss it with slangasek.. If we need to switch for support in LTS, it would be better to do this cycle IMO. [07:46] Launchpad bug 1180094 in samba "Update to 4.0" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1180094 [07:46] Daviey: oh, OK. I didn't realise it was remotely near the cards. [07:47] rbasak: Would "Wishlist, Incomplete" make more sense? [07:47] Daviey, zul: what's the need to go ahead of Debian here? [07:47] rbasak: Well, zul raised it yesterday - and broadly, *might* make sense? [07:48] rbasak: I agree about desktop needing to be involved. At base, it would be good for smb4 to get more exposure *IF* it needs to be standard for the next cycle. [07:48] But then, smb3 might still be ok for LTS.. so i don't know. [07:49] AIUI, samba4 is useful for server people wanting to emulate AD. For this use case, the samba4 packages are available. [07:49] AIUI, samba3 is fine for everyone else, but perhaps I'm mistaken. [07:50] Oh. Upstream list 4.x as current stable. [07:51] what is the relation between ubuntu and debian ? [07:53] Senor: good question! http://askubuntu.com/questions/1336/how-is-ubuntu-different-from-debian has some answers if that helps you. [07:53] SpamapS: ^^ some nostalgia for you perhaps? :) [07:54] rbasak:I am trying to implement one game server on linux , which distro is the best ? [07:54] Senor: Ubuntu Server, of course. What a silly question! :) [07:55] * rbasak notes that this is the #ubuntu-server channel, so answers here might be a bit biased. [07:56] is ubuntu distro open source ? [08:09] Senor: essentially yes, with the exception of restricted and multiverse (like non-free in Debian). See: http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/ubuntu-policy/policy.html/ch-archive.html#s-ulp for details. [08:21] Senor: yes [08:21] Senor: or what rbasak said [08:59] Hello all! Is there any mail caching server. For example the office has a very low internet connection, but the workers sending e-mails so e-mails go very slow and the most of the time workers have to wait for the process rather then typing e-mails. How it is possible to make work with yahoo, gmal and other e-mail services? So the workers submit their e-mails to that server, and server during 5-6 hours login to their accounts an [08:59] d send [09:00] those messages? [09:05] anyone? [09:10] Do i need a separate caching computer to chache the stuff there and execute with queue? [09:19] Daviey: Hi, just saw your update of the rsyslog SRU being blocked by another inflight SRU (from stokachu) [09:19] Daviey: anything that must be done ? [09:19] do i need a proxy caching serve?R How it works? [09:21] RoyK: I have installed ubuntu 10.4.2 server ,but why no step for password root? [09:21] and no root account [09:22] Senor: because root normally don't have a password, login as your own user and run sudo -i [09:23] caribou: Well the other SRU needs verification, that would help unblock it :) [09:23] Daviey: ok, I'll coordinate with Adam [09:24] caribou: Thanks muchly [09:24] RoyK:That is ok! [09:24] RoyK:Is ubuntu server the best for deploying my gameserver? [09:25] any linux distro should work [09:25] up to you [09:26] which kernel version ubuntu server 10.4.2 is using ? [09:27] Senor: 10.04.4 runs 2.6.32-38-server - you should upgrade to at least 10.04.4 (apt-get dist-upgrade), or perhaps to 12.04 [09:29] Hello all! Is there any mail caching server. For example the office has a very low internet connection, but the workers sending e-mails so e-mails go very slow and the most of the time workers have to wait for the process rather then typing e-mails. How it is possible to make work with yahoo, gmal and other e-mail services? So the workers submit their e-mails to that server, and server during 5-6 hours login to their accounts an [09:29] d send messages? Or do i need some webcaching proxy server? Are those secure? What is the secure webcaching server if any exist that can handle my request? [09:30] Alina-malina: If the user wants to use gmail, yahoo or other WEB UI - it is not a good idea to interfere. [09:31] Alina-malina: if they are using a local mail client, such as thunderbird or outlook - you can help. [09:31] Daviey, maybe i should put a separate computer and route the traffic to it and that machine queue the requests and send during some hours like? [09:32] caribou: If you can get Adam's verified today - we can get yours in to proposed today [09:32] Alina-malina: right, that is something you can do. But only smart for IMAP or Pop3 and smtp [09:33] Daviey: won't both fixes interfere ? I suppose that my SRU don't have Adam's patch [09:34] Daviey, how i can do that? Is there any manuals? i never did anything like that before, i just have imagination:) [09:37] RoyK: Does debian branch from ubuntu ? [09:48] Senor: no, it started with debian [09:56] RoyK: where can I get the distro's source code ? include login relevent programes . [09:59] caribou: Your update does include Adam [09:59] 's, no? [09:59] Daviey: lemme check [10:00] caribou: The idea is that Adam's can be released to updates, and yours can then enter proposed. Currently proposed is blocked with Adam's [10:00] Alina-malina: I'm sorry, I am unable to spend the time helping atm [10:00] Daviey: yeah, but if mine doesn't have Adam's patch, there's no point into getting it into proposed. I should rework mine [10:00] * caribou goes to check his [10:01] Senor: I suggest you ask in #ubuntu for questions that aren't server-specific. I think there are more people there who will be able to help you. [10:02] caribou: http://pb.daviey.com/zCDO/ [10:02] Daviey, what is atm? [10:02] Alina-malina: At The Moment [10:03] rbasak:oh,yes [10:03] Daviey: yep, the Raring one does. I don't know if Adam's patch applies to Precise but I think it does [10:04] caribou: Ah, i only looked at the Raring candidate so far [10:05] Daviey: ah, ok. [10:07] Senor: apt/get source packagename [10:07] RoyK:qpt-get source ubuntu? [10:13] Senor: no, linux distros consist of thousands of packages, each for a program or set of programs. those you can apt-get source [10:18] how canI config my source get mirror ? [10:31] Senor: There is a bit of an expectation that you do some searching yourself for answers, and using this channel to help fill in the gaps. === ivoks_ is now known as ivoks === soren_ is now known as soren === uvirtbot` is now known as uvirtbot === wedgwood_away is now known as wedgwood [13:11] Daviey, is ok that i start packaging testlib to reuse that on our dep-8-tests? [13:31] yolanda: super idea === lyda_ is now known as lyda === rbasak-test is now known as rbasak [14:36] adam_g: I accepted your openstack uploads, but at least one will be superseeded today - so you'll need to rebase [14:37] Daviey, i only saw the quantal-proposed get accepted. did the raring-proposed go in as well? [14:38] adam_g: will be shortly [15:59] Hi, [15:59] I'm trying to set up OpenVPN on my Debian VPS. I followed the instructions on http://aahank.com/2013/debian-ubuntu-vpn-server/ . But when I try to do "/etc/init.d/openvpn start", it's giving the error "Starting virtual private network daemon: filmygirl failed!". What could be wrong? [15:59] This is what I found when I did "grep ovpn /var/log/syslog" : http://pastie.org/private/i7ljwz8qidykztwai2nkuq . But I can't figure out what's wrong. Could someone help? [16:02] BlueShark: 503 Service Unavailable when I look at that pastebin. Try another one - eg. paste.ubuntu.com? === danjared_ is now known as danjared [16:09] do vmware, kvm, qemu works flawlessly with ubuntu ? [16:10] because in arch linux i am fed up of config things after each kernel upgrade.. :( [16:10] is that the case with ubuntu too ? [16:11] jdstrand, i verified SRU this morning, and updated the related bugs [16:13] megha: KVM Just Works for me. I can't speak for VMware. [16:13] rbasak: kvm works flawlessly ? [16:13] megha: for me, yes. [16:14] it good than... [16:14] Nothing works flawlessly [16:15] rbasak: what should be my ideal choice ubuntu server or ubuntu-desktop.. [16:15] jacobw: yeah you are right... [16:15] It depends what issues you have with Arch that you don't want to have with Ubuntu [16:15] but frequent probs is not a good sign... [16:15] What's your use case? [16:16] i am coding for Freebsd, so i need to run it in KVM and qemu. as i would be testing for different platforms.. [16:17] jacobw: in arch linux a new kernel version in 15 days, and i have to config and install modules again. that's waste of time, when you have limited time left in your hand.. [16:17] OK, then you'll want to run a VM on your desktop [16:17] For coding, I'd use desktop with libvirt and virt-manager. Though virt-manager doesn't anything close to the snapshot UI that VirtualBox has. [16:18] Arch is rolling release whereas Ubuntu isn't, the breakages with Arch are a consequence of the rolling release scheme [16:19] Lot's of developers use Vagrant [16:19] * Lots [16:20] https://github.com/xironix/freebsd-vagrant/blob/master/README.md === blitzkrieg3 is now known as jmleddy [16:24] jacobw: that link is really cool.. [16:24] should i switch to virtualbox from vmware.... as i never have used virtualbox before.. [16:29] ubuntu will still rebuild the kernel modules on upgrade [16:29] it's automatic though [16:29] it's about an extra minute when the package is upgraded on my machine [16:33] jcastro: :) [16:33] megha: Vagrant is pretty awesome [16:34] yeah.. [16:35] adam_g: arg, bug #1179626 [16:35] Launchpad bug 1179626 in quantum "Meta bug for tracking Openstack 2013.1.1 Stable Update" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1179626 [16:35] adam_g: I'm trying to get keystone and nova out [16:35] jdstrand, go for it. ill rebase on you, those were just accepted to proposed today [16:37] adam_g: ok, keystone already has it: 1166670 [16:37] so that will only be nova [16:38] adam_g: you could get ahead of it and just apply https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/a4fc0c800502338e4530cad910efb64a5483e1ea [16:40] jdstrand, you're planning on releasing them as security updates based on whats in -updates currently, right? [16:41] adam_g: for raring, it is based on 1:2013.1-0ubuntu2 [16:42] adam_g: for precise, I based keystone and nova on -proposed and am waiting on the packages to migrate since they are now verification-done [16:43] adam_g: so I'm suggesting you just apply https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/a4fc0c800502338e4530cad910efb64a5483e1ea to 1:2013.1.1-0ubuntu1 and reupload [16:44] jdstrand, right, we will. but that patch is going to go out as a security update in the meantime based on 1:2013.1-0ubuntu2? [16:45] adam_g: that was my plan, yes [16:46] adam_g: so I do my thing, you cherrypick that patch for -proposed and we're both good [16:46] jdstrand, okay. ill rebase on your update when its out, to preserve changelog history and patch references [16:46] that'll work too [16:46] jdstrand, thanks for keeping us posted (yesterday, too) [16:50] adam_g: np [17:19] adam_g: well, some goes for quantal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/1179707/comments/7 [17:19] Launchpad bug 1179707 in quantum "Meta bug for tracking OpenStack 2012.2.4 Stable Update" [Undecided,Fix committed] [17:20] adam_g: (but it is both nova and keystone that need updates) [17:22] jdstrand, k thanks [17:24] adam_g: yesterday I thought it was implied that me trying to get an update out for precise meant that quantal and raring were needed to. I'll try to be more explicit next time [17:24] (sorry) [17:39] jdstrand: Don't worry, i already briefed adam_g with the expectation we'd need to rebase these recent ones [17:39] :) [17:40] At least i thought i did.. [17:51] So, what's the status of md in precise...is it working ok now? I have two mirrored sata disks running 10.04, and was holding off upgrading... [18:45] Is there a way, perhaps through editing isolinux/gfxboot.cfg to remove the language prompt and install/try screen from the install CD? [18:45] K4k: investigate preseed files === blitzkrieg3 is now known as jmleddy [18:54] sarnold: That's what I'm working on now, I've created a preseed that automates _everything_ but the language select prompt before I select the preseed boot option for install [18:55] none of the locale or language d-i settings seem to affect it, only thing I've found so far is something mentioning hacking up gfxboot.inc but I'm not building this on an ubuntu or debian system so I don't have access to that tool. [19:06] Hi, Does anybody know how can I make a full backup of my server with rsnapshot? (I mean databases, files, emails, ...) [19:08] mojtaba: I don't use rsnapshot, never had, but if it does an rdiff/rsync backup, it should work. but what database(s)? [19:09] RoyK: mysqls [19:10] RoyK: The problem with rsync is that I must use sudo [19:10] mysql should be dumped regularly - backing up mysql data files may lead to inconcistency [19:10] so if you dump the mysql dbs and backup the dumps, it shouldn't be much of an issue [19:11] postgresql is better in most ways (tm) [19:11] RoyK: Actually I am pretty new to linux and this is my first time I am going to backup in this way. [19:11] Can you help me to figure it up. [19:12] mojtaba: see mysqldump - dump the mysql databases somewhere and backup the dump files [19:12] as in [19:13] mysqldump --all-databases -uUSER -pPASSWORD > /var/backup/mysql-`date -I`.sql [19:13] or something [19:13] add that to cron [19:16] what does dump do exactly? [19:16] RoyK: [19:17] mojtaba: it dumps the whole database(s) to SQL code so that it can be recreated easily - try it on a test db [19:17] meh, setting the isolinux.cfg timeout to 1 works well enough. I still get the prompt but it skips it faster than someone can react in order to change it. [19:17] RoyK: ok, thanks. [19:17] roger [19:18] RoyK: do you have to stop mysql or can you dump and keep moving? [19:19] no, it needs to be running [19:19] lol [19:20] wow, i asked that question [19:20] thats not how i meant it [19:20] ill justleave it there though [19:21] you can't dump a mysql db without the DBMS running :P [19:21] maybe i can the db binaries? [19:21] no reason [19:21] just dump the db while it's running [19:21] no, im just being silly [20:11] hi, just a doubt, can you recommend an available open source alternative to the landscape service? thnx === thesheff17_ is now known as thesheff17 === yeats_ is now known as yeats [21:29] stgraber: heh, you know, I *do* have an error_string in the lxc_container struct since day 1. just never got around to using it yet :) [21:31] hallyn: ;) [21:32] anyway got shutdown and stop converted, will do destroy and create and send off [21:34] Hey. I want to mount one folder from server A at server B. There should be read/write access just like a usual folder. What is the best protocol / FS for this? Are there better options than WebDAV? [21:35] Rick28: investigate nfs and cifs [21:35] Thanks sarnold. [21:39] sarnold, What would you prefer? nfs or WebDAV for non sensitive big data transfer. [21:40] over the net [21:42] Rick28: I'd prefer NFS, it does a better job of providing posix-style filesystem gaurantees [21:42] thanks [21:42] Rick28: cifs if I had to work with windows-like systems too === yofel_ is now known as yofel === wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away [22:28] Hi I am root, can I login to a user who doesn't have shell access? [22:30] sudo su username says shell access is not enabled for the user. There must be a way root can login into a suer right [22:30] dewdrop: if 'sudo -u name -s' doesn't work, 'sudo -u name bash' should work.. [22:31] sudo -i then su name should work too. [22:31] sarnold: thanks, 'sudo -u name -s' works === ShapeShi- is now known as ShapeShifter499 [22:56] * fortmac is away: I'm busy [22:58] hi. /boot ran out of space. I tried to remove the old kernels using dpkg directly. However, now I am getting some dependency error and can't fix it. [22:59] it's asking me to run apt-get -f install, which fails saying, "dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-server" [23:00] nsahoo: when /boot is full, I think removing one or two kernels by hand _before_ removing them by dpkg is the best approach.. [23:01] sarnold: after removing using dpkg, i freed some space. Now it's failing because of some dependency issues. Let me post a paste bin link [23:02] here is the paste bin link [23:02] http://pastebin.com/LRQ2QNwt [23:03] some more information : http://pastebin.com/Nn2ELaMP [23:06] adam_g: fyi, nova and keystone published for precise-raring [23:06] * jdstrand -> out [23:48] nsahoo: Have you tried running "sudo dpkg --configure -a" ? It might help to fix this.