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| === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | HA Openstack Charms V2 | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21811/servercloud-s-openstack-charms-ha-v2/ | ||
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| mattgriffin | Daviey: hiya. can you send me and stewart the url for the hangout? | 13:59 |
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| * stewart introduces self: Stewart Smith, Director of Software Architecture at Percona. | 13:59 | |
| * mattgriffin is Matt Griffin, Director of Product Management at Percona | 13:59 | |
| Daviey | mattgriffin: i think you have it? | 14:00 |
| Daviey | waiitng to start.. | 14:00 |
| Daviey | starting... | 14:01 |
| jamespage | can people see the stream yet? | 14:02 |
| mattgriffin | Daviey: don't think we're on the air yet | 14:02 |
| stewart | i can see everyone at least :) | 14:03 |
| * stewart notes everybody has cool lines of text and Logos except me | 14:03 | |
| Daviey | we are online.. | 14:04 |
| stewart | or this morning if you're me :) | 14:05 |
| jamespage | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/OpenStackHA | 14:09 |
| Daviey | (If anyone else thinks they should be in he inner circle, please shout) | 14:13 |
| * med_ is just watching | 14:15 | |
| Daviey | stewart: can you remind me of your LP id? | 14:30 |
| stewart | Daviey, stewart | 14:30 |
| Daviey | ta | 14:30 |
| Daviey | (thanks was harder than i expected) | 14:30 |
| stewart | :) | 14:32 |
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| roaksoax | Link: http://blog.clusterlabs.org/ | 14:51 |
| med_ | thanks percona. | 14:59 |
| stewart | np. thanks all | 14:59 |
| === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | MongoDB activities for Saucy | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21810/servercloud-s-mongodb/ | ||
| Daviey | Who is here for the mongdo session? | 15:03 |
| Daviey | rbasak: joining us? | 15:04 |
| rbasak | Yes | 15:05 |
| rbasak | Having trouble getting the untypeable link across to my other machine | 15:06 |
| Daviey | rbasak: you could use a url shortenr :) | 15:07 |
| jamespage | med_, still here? | 15:08 |
| med_ | yep | 15:08 |
| med_ | I see starting soon | 15:09 |
| jamespage | refersh | 15:09 |
| Daviey | started | 15:09 |
| rbasak | Apparently lower third doesn't work on ARM :( | 15:09 |
| Daviey | Anyone else want to be in the inner circle? | 15:10 |
| med_ | live now | 15:10 |
| med_ | Daviey, Hyde Park? | 15:10 |
| Daviey | med_: ^ ? | 15:10 |
| Daviey | med_: Yes, i was busy hunting deer. | 15:10 |
| yolanda | happybase is also supported by ceilometer | 15:11 |
| Daviey | yolanda: interesting | 15:12 |
| zyga-uds | loud typing | 15:15 |
| zyga-uds | loud typing | 15:17 |
| zyga-uds | loud typing | 15:17 |
| Daviey | zyga: noted, thanks | 15:20 |
| med_ | j a m e s p a g e can't efficiently mute and talk and take notes at the same time... so we tolerate the typing noise. | 15:21 |
| med_ | youtube just froze | 15:22 |
| med_ | and back | 15:22 |
| * zyga didn't indent to say 'loud typing' three times, the irc web widget is borken, | 15:23 | |
| zyga | I was actually interested in the mongo patches, where are they? | 15:23 |
| rbasak | zyga: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~james-page/ubuntu/saucy/mongodb/merge-2.4.3/files/head:/debian/patches/ for James' latest work in progress | 15:24 |
| jamespage | any questions from channel | 15:24 |
| med_ | does MRE limit who can submit that? | 15:24 |
| rbasak | zyga: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/mongodb/saucy/files/head:/debian/patches/ for the latest in Saucy | 15:25 |
| med_ | ie does it require someone have uploader status? | 15:25 |
| yolanda | hbase, ceilometer team chose mongo because was a customer requirement only | 15:26 |
| med_ | not sure how much lag between stream and live... seems pretty laggy based on the comments I'm hearing | 15:26 |
| yolanda | but they said in ODS ceilometer shouldn't be tied to that | 15:26 |
| zul | MIR as well | 15:28 |
| Daviey | med_: you rock | 15:29 |
| jamespage | thanks folks | 15:29 |
| med_ | nod. | 15:29 |
| * med_ is just now hearing jamespage comments on MRE answers | 15:30 | |
| jamespage | med_, :-) | 15:30 |
| * med_ would be happy to help | 15:30 | |
| med_ | very lagged I gather | 15:31 |
| med_ | Note to self: if you want real time participation, join the hangout. | 15:31 |
| Daviey | med_: you were invited. :-) | 15:32 |
| med_ | nod. I just didn't think I had anything to add to this one.... and I didn't really. | 15:32 |
| SpamapS | o/ | 16:00 |
| === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | Virtualization Stack Work for Saucy | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21827/servercloud-s-virtstack/ | ||
| * stgraber waves | 16:01 | |
| SpamapS | video died for me :-/ | 16:02 |
| SpamapS | ah came back | 16:02 |
| Daviey | Hey! | 16:04 |
| Daviey | Who else wants to be on te inner circle? | 16:04 |
| Daviey | SpamapS: ? | 16:05 |
| SpamapS | Daviey: no I'm just watching. Don't have anything to add. | 16:05 |
| Daviey | Not started yet.. still finding participants | 16:05 |
| Daviey | ogasawara: Want to join the inner circle? | 16:05 |
| med_ | not live yet | 16:06 |
| ogasawara | Daviey: I've got another meeting which is about to conflict, so was hoping to watch from the sidelines for now | 16:06 |
| ogasawara | Daviey: but will be happy to jump in later if needed | 16:06 |
| ogasawara | Daviey: if you need a kernel rep, lemme see if I can get apw | 16:07 |
| jamespage | hey channel | 16:07 |
| jamespage | ping me with any questions for the inner circle | 16:07 |
| med_ | live now | 16:07 |
| jamespage | or feel free to request to join if you want to be more involved | 16:08 |
| pitti | don't we already have user namespaces with logind now? | 16:10 |
| pitti | i. e. sessions already run in a cgroup in saucy | 16:10 |
| jamespage | pitti, did stgraber answer that question? (stream lag) | 16:11 |
| pitti | not yet here | 16:12 |
| jamespage | ok | 16:12 |
| ogasawara | Daviey: I've got rtg monitoring the session if you've got kernel topics needing discussed | 16:12 |
| Daviey | ogasawara: I *think* it will be ok, but if he wants to join the inner circle he is more than welcome :) | 16:13 |
| rtg_ | Daviey, I think I'm fine just listening | 16:13 |
| adam_g | feed just died for me | 16:15 |
| med_ | still alive here | 16:16 |
| * dannf joins late from another session and searches for the word "arm" in the notes | 16:41 | |
| dannf | any plans for arm/qemu? | 16:41 |
| dannf | er, qemu-kvm | 16:42 |
| med_ | dannf, you can probably join the hangout if you want | 16:42 |
| Daviey | Did we cover openvswitch integration to kvm, xen and lxc? | 16:42 |
| dannf | med_: good point - though i'm not sure how? | 16:43 |
| med_ | see message in another server | 16:43 |
| * Daviey pm'd dannf | 16:43 | |
| dannf | thx; waiting till serge is done talking before i switch over | 16:44 |
| dannf | cortex-a15 | 16:44 |
| * dannf switches | 16:44 | |
| * med_ measures lag | 16:45 | |
| med_ | did anyone play with OpenDaylight yet? The code is downloadable.... | 16:47 |
| Daviey | med_: not yet. | 16:47 |
| med_ | not sure how it plays with lxc/libvirt | 16:47 |
| med_ | or --if-- it plays or will play | 16:47 |
| Daviey | med_: Last week, i couldn't find the source - just the gerrit.. Where is the source? | 16:48 |
| med_ | Daviey, the source is there too. | 16:48 |
| med_ | same place. | 16:48 |
| Daviey | med_: it ws 404/403/500 error last week i thought... | 16:48 |
| Daviey | i guess they have fixed it | 16:49 |
| med_ | no, it worked fine with the right credentials | 16:50 |
| med_ | and then someone else posted in an etherpad the write URL rbasak may have. | 16:50 |
| Daviey | med_: it's authenticated source tree? | 16:50 |
| Daviey | sounds like semi-open source :) | 16:50 |
| med_ | there was both auth and non-auth | 16:51 |
| med_ | but my checkout is auth: | 16:51 |
| med_ | url = ssh://medberry@git.opendaylight.org:29418/controller.git | 16:51 |
| med_ | <humor virtualization> what about lguest and the puppies? http://lguest.ozlabs.org/ </humor virtualization> | 16:54 |
| med_ | is dannf the lxc upstream for debian arm? | 16:55 |
| dannf | no | 16:55 |
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| Daviey | Anyone here for the Interlock session yet? | 17:51 |
| === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | Ubuntu Server - Interlock | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21832/servercloud-s-interlock/ | ||
| ogasawara | Daviey: I'm here, just ping me the hangout when you're ready for me to jump in | 17:58 |
| Daviey | smoser: are you joining? | 18:05 |
| zul | feel free to start :) | 18:07 |
| adam_g | im having trouble joining | 18:07 |
| smoser | o/ | 18:07 |
| jamespage | http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1305-servercloud-s-interlock | 18:08 |
| rbasak | adam_g: it started late. It's live now. | 18:08 |
| smoser | * HWE Kernel ramifications on UCA testing | 18:08 |
| smoser | * ISO default kernels for 12.04.2 server and cloud-images | 18:08 |
| rbasak | How about the samba4 question? That's more for the desktop team, but I don't think they're present? | 18:10 |
| rbasak | (though I'm still not sure why we want samba4 default anyway - it's packaged, and on server people install the package they want directly themselves) | 18:11 |
| rbasak | ARM servers are moving to UEFI, so we'll need MAAS support for that. But as long as d-i works with it, I don't think there will be any issue. I assume secure boot won't be used for now. | 18:12 |
| rbasak | I'm told that UEFI support is working well with precise-updates on at least one server vendor's hardware. | 18:13 |
| Daviey | rbasak: ok will ask | 18:18 |
| med_ | UEFI is pretty standard on laptops now.... (not that that means anything w/r/t servers but generally is good for installation story in general) | 18:19 |
| apw | Daviey, people are still reporting data loss and lack of integity control in btrfs | 18:19 |
| apw | Daviey, also performance has been poor, plus the space reporting is basically useless | 18:19 |
| jdstrand | good stuff :) | 18:19 |
| med_ | apw, so you love it? | 18:19 |
| med_ | :) | 18:20 |
| apw | med_, it is my very favourite | 18:20 |
| med_ | so ceph folk seem to like it but don't use it in real deployments | 18:20 |
| apw | med_, well with cephs they work on the assumption that if one of their nodes implodes, they can just rebuild it | 18:21 |
| med_ | nod | 18:21 |
| jamespage | med_, apw: default ceph filesystem is XFS for good reason! | 18:23 |
| med_ | jamespage, nod++ | 18:23 |
| apw | jamespage, heh good :) | 18:23 |
| med_ | El Torito boot image... I heard L32 boot image the first two times.... | 18:25 |
| * med_ needs subtitles | 18:25 | |
| med_ | arm64 definitely concerns server | 18:29 |
| cjwatson | I almost forgot to mention it, oops :) | 18:30 |
| med_ | are there only h/w sims or also s/w siims for Arm64? Ie, can we scale the testing | 18:30 |
| cjwatson | how do you mean? | 18:30 |
| cjwatson | I mean what distinction are you drawing there | 18:30 |
| cjwatson | analogous to qemu-system vs. qemu-user? | 18:30 |
| med_ | well, hardware doesn't scale well to many hands. | 18:30 |
| rbasak | Did we resolve our questions about the backported enablement stack? | 18:31 |
| med_ | cjwatson, I didn't think there was much arm64 silicon (if any) | 18:31 |
| cjwatson | we have no hardware yet but some hardware simulators of various levels of performance | 18:31 |
| cjwatson | qemu is, I hear, expected to give us something in Q3 or so | 18:31 |
| med_ | cjwatson, thanks, that's what I wanted to know. much appreciated. | 18:31 |
| rtg_ | apw, why don't we carry some of these non-binary-blob dkms packages in the ubuntu directory ? That solves the backport issue. | 18:39 |
| apw | rtg_, a good question. they have often not wanted to be restricted by our process in updateing them. I tend to agree that the ones for things like openvswitch which are now completely critical maybe should be spo | 18:40 |
| s3hh | Will kernel team be willing to consider enabling CONFIG_USER_NS, at least if we add a sysctl to disable unprivileged use of CLONE_NEWUSER by default? | 18:41 |
| rtg_ | apw, those packages are subject to SRU anyways I would think. | 18:41 |
| rbasak | apw: size of the cloud images? | 18:43 |
| rbasak | apw: eg. a MAAS deployment needs to download a dozen images maybe, so it multiplies out | 18:44 |
| rbasak | And then each update of upstream images has to pull them again | 18:44 |
| med_ | It's speed, time, cost. | 18:44 |
| * med_ dropped due to b/w issues | 18:48 | |
| * rbasak had issues too | 18:48 | |
| rbasak | I got it back though | 18:48 |
| med_ | well, youtube is a lot less demanding than the hangout | 18:49 |
| Daviey | apw: did you see s3hh question? | 18:49 |
| med_ | and just lost youtube | 18:49 |
| Daviey | I couldn't easily field that in the session. | 18:49 |
| med_ | or session died | 18:50 |
| med_ | looks like session died | 18:50 |
| rbasak | Security as an afterthought? Sounds like a number of upstream packages :) | 18:50 |
| med_ | and back... | 18:50 |
| Daviey | any security questions | 18:52 |
| Daviey | ? | 18:52 |
| s3hh | rtg_: ^ ? | 18:52 |
| s3hh | Daviey: well, there's the qeustion of how apparmor stacking support is looking now, after uds | 18:52 |
| rtg_ | s3hh, looking... | 18:52 |
| Daviey | s3hh: stacking? | 18:53 |
| s3hh | Daviey: apparmor profile stacking, | 18:53 |
| Daviey | ah ok | 18:53 |
| rbasak | I found privacy extensions odd on my IPv6 server. | 18:53 |
| s3hh | i.e. load a policy whil still confine dunder another | 18:53 |
| rbasak | I can't remember the detail - confusing netstat, etc. | 18:53 |
| rtg_ | s3hh, looks like USER_NS depends indirectly on XFS_FS = n | 18:54 |
| s3hh | rtg_: yeah, obviously only if that is fixed, | 18:54 |
| s3hh | that, plus a 2-line aufs patch are the only *tchnical* blockers right now | 18:54 |
| med_ | youtube is dropping out, I'll replay later. | 18:54 |
| s3hh | (test build is in ppa:serge-hallyn/userns-natty working great for saucy) | 18:54 |
| rtg_ | s3hh, send some patches on the k-team list ? | 18:55 |
| rbasak | Right now, IPv6 on my server is broken and I haven't got round to looking at it. Something to do with the addressing and configuration. It'd be nice if it Just Worked appropiately for server, without extra configuration necessary to make a server behave like a server, IYSWIM. | 18:55 |
| s3hh | rtg_: once eric gets the xfs uploaded, there'll be no patches. it'll just be enabling CONFIG_USER_NS, | 18:55 |
| rbasak | (eg. I can ssh to it find, so ssh is listening on the right socket, but outbound connections don't work) | 18:55 |
| rbasak | fine | 18:55 |
| rtg_ | s3hh, sounds like thats no problem for saucy | 18:55 |
| s3hh | rtg_: ok, thaks. yes, once eric sends the xfs patches for inclusion, there'll be no patches at all. | 18:56 |
| jamespage | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/cloud-archive/grizzly_versions.html | 18:57 |
| jamespage | http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/cloud-archive/folsom_versions.html | 18:57 |
| === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/servercloud-1/ - http://ubottu.com/udslog/%23ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 | ||
| === wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away | ||
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