=== schwuk_away is now known as schwuk === wedgwood_away is now known as wedgwood === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | HA Openstack Charms V2 | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21811/servercloud-s-openstack-charms-ha-v2/ === stewart__ is now known as stewart [13:59] Daviey: hiya. can you send me and stewart the url for the hangout? [13:59] * stewart introduces self: Stewart Smith, Director of Software Architecture at Percona. [13:59] * mattgriffin is Matt Griffin, Director of Product Management at Percona [14:00] mattgriffin: i think you have it? [14:00] waiitng to start.. [14:01] starting... [14:02] can people see the stream yet? [14:02] Daviey: don't think we're on the air yet [14:03] i can see everyone at least :) [14:03] * stewart notes everybody has cool lines of text and Logos except me [14:04] we are online.. [14:05] or this morning if you're me :) [14:09] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/OpenStackHA [14:13] (If anyone else thinks they should be in he inner circle, please shout) [14:15] * med_ is just watching [14:30] stewart: can you remind me of your LP id? [14:30] Daviey, stewart [14:30] ta [14:30] (thanks was harder than i expected) [14:32] :) === francisco is now known as Guest4406 [14:51] Link: http://blog.clusterlabs.org/ [14:59] thanks percona. [14:59] np. thanks all === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | MongoDB activities for Saucy | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21810/servercloud-s-mongodb/ [15:03] Who is here for the mongdo session? [15:04] rbasak: joining us? [15:05] Yes [15:06] Having trouble getting the untypeable link across to my other machine [15:07] rbasak: you could use a url shortenr :) [15:08] med_, still here? [15:08] yep [15:09] I see starting soon [15:09] refersh [15:09] started [15:09] Apparently lower third doesn't work on ARM :( [15:10] Anyone else want to be in the inner circle? [15:10] live now [15:10] Daviey, Hyde Park? [15:10] med_: ^ ? [15:10] med_: Yes, i was busy hunting deer. [15:11] happybase is also supported by ceilometer [15:12] yolanda: interesting [15:15] loud typing [15:17] loud typing [15:17] loud typing [15:20] zyga: noted, thanks [15:21] j a m e s p a g e can't efficiently mute and talk and take notes at the same time... so we tolerate the typing noise. [15:22] youtube just froze [15:22] and back [15:23] * zyga didn't indent to say 'loud typing' three times, the irc web widget is borken, [15:23] I was actually interested in the mongo patches, where are they? [15:24] zyga: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~james-page/ubuntu/saucy/mongodb/merge-2.4.3/files/head:/debian/patches/ for James' latest work in progress [15:24] any questions from channel [15:24] does MRE limit who can submit that? [15:25] zyga: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/mongodb/saucy/files/head:/debian/patches/ for the latest in Saucy [15:25] ie does it require someone have uploader status? [15:26] hbase, ceilometer team chose mongo because was a customer requirement only [15:26] not sure how much lag between stream and live... seems pretty laggy based on the comments I'm hearing [15:26] but they said in ODS ceilometer shouldn't be tied to that [15:28] MIR as well [15:29] med_: you rock [15:29] thanks folks [15:29] nod. [15:30] * med_ is just now hearing jamespage comments on MRE answers [15:30] med_, :-) [15:30] * med_ would be happy to help [15:31] very lagged I gather [15:31] Note to self: if you want real time participation, join the hangout. [15:32] med_: you were invited. :-) [15:32] nod. I just didn't think I had anything to add to this one.... and I didn't really. [16:00] o/ === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | Virtualization Stack Work for Saucy | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21827/servercloud-s-virtstack/ [16:01] * stgraber waves [16:02] video died for me :-/ [16:02] ah came back [16:04] Hey! [16:04] Who else wants to be on te inner circle? [16:05] SpamapS: ? [16:05] Daviey: no I'm just watching. Don't have anything to add. [16:05] Not started yet.. still finding participants [16:05] ogasawara: Want to join the inner circle? [16:06] not live yet [16:06] Daviey: I've got another meeting which is about to conflict, so was hoping to watch from the sidelines for now [16:06] Daviey: but will be happy to jump in later if needed [16:07] Daviey: if you need a kernel rep, lemme see if I can get apw [16:07] hey channel [16:07] ping me with any questions for the inner circle [16:07] live now [16:08] or feel free to request to join if you want to be more involved [16:10] don't we already have user namespaces with logind now? [16:10] i. e. sessions already run in a cgroup in saucy [16:11] pitti, did stgraber answer that question? (stream lag) [16:12] not yet here [16:12] ok [16:12] Daviey: I've got rtg monitoring the session if you've got kernel topics needing discussed [16:13] ogasawara: I *think* it will be ok, but if he wants to join the inner circle he is more than welcome :) [16:13] Daviey, I think I'm fine just listening [16:15] feed just died for me [16:16] still alive here [16:41] * dannf joins late from another session and searches for the word "arm" in the notes [16:41] any plans for arm/qemu? [16:42] er, qemu-kvm [16:42] dannf, you can probably join the hangout if you want [16:42] Did we cover openvswitch integration to kvm, xen and lxc? [16:43] med_: good point - though i'm not sure how? [16:43] see message in another server [16:43] * Daviey pm'd dannf [16:44] thx; waiting till serge is done talking before i switch over [16:44] cortex-a15 [16:44] * dannf switches [16:45] * med_ measures lag [16:47] did anyone play with OpenDaylight yet? The code is downloadable.... [16:47] med_: not yet. [16:47] not sure how it plays with lxc/libvirt [16:47] or --if-- it plays or will play [16:48] med_: Last week, i couldn't find the source - just the gerrit.. Where is the source? [16:48] Daviey, the source is there too. [16:48] same place. [16:48] med_: it ws 404/403/500 error last week i thought... [16:49] i guess they have fixed it [16:50] no, it worked fine with the right credentials [16:50] and then someone else posted in an etherpad the write URL rbasak may have. [16:50] med_: it's authenticated source tree? [16:50] sounds like semi-open source :) [16:51] there was both auth and non-auth [16:51] but my checkout is auth: [16:51] url = ssh://medberry@git.opendaylight.org:29418/controller.git [16:54] what about lguest and the puppies? http://lguest.ozlabs.org/ [16:55] is dannf the lxc upstream for debian arm? [16:55] no === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/servercloud-1/ - http://ubottu.com/udslog/%23ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away [17:51] Anyone here for the Interlock session yet? === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Track: Cloud & Server | Ubuntu Server - Interlock | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21832/servercloud-s-interlock/ [17:58] Daviey: I'm here, just ping me the hangout when you're ready for me to jump in [18:05] smoser: are you joining? [18:07] feel free to start :) [18:07] im having trouble joining [18:07] o/ [18:08] http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1305-servercloud-s-interlock [18:08] adam_g: it started late. It's live now. [18:08] * HWE Kernel ramifications on UCA testing [18:08] * ISO default kernels for 12.04.2 server and cloud-images [18:10] How about the samba4 question? That's more for the desktop team, but I don't think they're present? [18:11] (though I'm still not sure why we want samba4 default anyway - it's packaged, and on server people install the package they want directly themselves) [18:12] ARM servers are moving to UEFI, so we'll need MAAS support for that. But as long as d-i works with it, I don't think there will be any issue. I assume secure boot won't be used for now. [18:13] I'm told that UEFI support is working well with precise-updates on at least one server vendor's hardware. [18:18] rbasak: ok will ask [18:19] UEFI is pretty standard on laptops now.... (not that that means anything w/r/t servers but generally is good for installation story in general) [18:19] Daviey, people are still reporting data loss and lack of integity control in btrfs [18:19] Daviey, also performance has been poor, plus the space reporting is basically useless [18:19] good stuff :) [18:19] apw, so you love it? [18:20] :) [18:20] med_, it is my very favourite [18:20] so ceph folk seem to like it but don't use it in real deployments [18:21] med_, well with cephs they work on the assumption that if one of their nodes implodes, they can just rebuild it [18:21] nod [18:23] med_, apw: default ceph filesystem is XFS for good reason! [18:23] jamespage, nod++ [18:23] jamespage, heh good :) [18:25] El Torito boot image... I heard L32 boot image the first two times.... [18:25] * med_ needs subtitles [18:29] arm64 definitely concerns server [18:30] I almost forgot to mention it, oops :) [18:30] are there only h/w sims or also s/w siims for Arm64? Ie, can we scale the testing [18:30] how do you mean? [18:30] I mean what distinction are you drawing there [18:30] analogous to qemu-system vs. qemu-user? [18:30] well, hardware doesn't scale well to many hands. [18:31] Did we resolve our questions about the backported enablement stack? [18:31] cjwatson, I didn't think there was much arm64 silicon (if any) [18:31] we have no hardware yet but some hardware simulators of various levels of performance [18:31] qemu is, I hear, expected to give us something in Q3 or so [18:31] cjwatson, thanks, that's what I wanted to know. much appreciated. [18:39] apw, why don't we carry some of these non-binary-blob dkms packages in the ubuntu directory ? That solves the backport issue. [18:40] rtg_, a good question. they have often not wanted to be restricted by our process in updateing them. I tend to agree that the ones for things like openvswitch which are now completely critical maybe should be spo [18:41] Will kernel team be willing to consider enabling CONFIG_USER_NS, at least if we add a sysctl to disable unprivileged use of CLONE_NEWUSER by default? [18:41] apw, those packages are subject to SRU anyways I would think. [18:43] apw: size of the cloud images? [18:44] apw: eg. a MAAS deployment needs to download a dozen images maybe, so it multiplies out [18:44] And then each update of upstream images has to pull them again [18:44] It's speed, time, cost. [18:48] * med_ dropped due to b/w issues [18:48] * rbasak had issues too [18:48] I got it back though [18:49] well, youtube is a lot less demanding than the hangout [18:49] apw: did you see s3hh question? [18:49] and just lost youtube [18:49] I couldn't easily field that in the session. [18:50] or session died [18:50] looks like session died [18:50] Security as an afterthought? Sounds like a number of upstream packages :) [18:50] and back... [18:52] any security questions [18:52] ? [18:52] rtg_: ^ ? [18:52] Daviey: well, there's the qeustion of how apparmor stacking support is looking now, after uds [18:52] s3hh, looking... [18:53] s3hh: stacking? [18:53] Daviey: apparmor profile stacking, [18:53] ah ok [18:53] I found privacy extensions odd on my IPv6 server. [18:53] i.e. load a policy whil still confine dunder another [18:53] I can't remember the detail - confusing netstat, etc. [18:54] s3hh, looks like USER_NS depends indirectly on XFS_FS = n [18:54] rtg_: yeah, obviously only if that is fixed, [18:54] that, plus a 2-line aufs patch are the only *tchnical* blockers right now [18:54] youtube is dropping out, I'll replay later. [18:54] (test build is in ppa:serge-hallyn/userns-natty working great for saucy) [18:55] s3hh, send some patches on the k-team list ? [18:55] Right now, IPv6 on my server is broken and I haven't got round to looking at it. Something to do with the addressing and configuration. It'd be nice if it Just Worked appropiately for server, without extra configuration necessary to make a server behave like a server, IYSWIM. [18:55] rtg_: once eric gets the xfs uploaded, there'll be no patches. it'll just be enabling CONFIG_USER_NS, [18:55] (eg. I can ssh to it find, so ssh is listening on the right socket, but outbound connections don't work) [18:55] fine [18:55] s3hh, sounds like thats no problem for saucy [18:56] rtg_: ok, thaks. yes, once eric sends the xfs patches for inclusion, there'll be no patches at all. [18:57] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/cloud-archive/grizzly_versions.html [18:57] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/cloud-archive/folsom_versions.html === udsbotu changed the topic of #ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 to: Currently no events are active in this room - http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/servercloud-1/ - http://ubottu.com/udslog/%23ubuntu-uds-servercloud-1 === wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away