[14:03] <arosales> Juju Docs session starting in a minute
[14:03] <arosales> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21699/servercloud-s-juju-docs/
[14:06] <arosales> Notes @ http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1305-servercloud-s-juju-docs
[14:07] <arosales> Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-juju-docs
[14:11] <marcoceppi> Google Hangout having some issues starting on air, please hold
[14:35] <m_3> questions on docs?
[14:39] <mattyw> arosales, +1 on that idea
[14:42] <arosales> If folks want to join in on the Juju Docs session the hangout URL is https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/10bbba04970621a9233d57c88c7d469acc185e86?authuser=0&hl=en
[14:44] <arosales> Any other questions?
[14:45] <mattyw> arosales, golang has done a similar thing recently with golang.org pointing to current docs and tip.golang.org pointing to the docs for the tip of the language, that kind of thing is nice
[14:48] <arosales> last call for questions
[14:49] <jcastro> arosales: hey for new hangouts
[14:49] <jcastro> make sure your plugin is up to date
[14:49] <arosales> jcastro, ah thats probably it
[14:52] <teknico> my gtalk plugin package is up to date, but still cannot use the toolbox :-/
[14:53] <arosales> teknico, do you get an error or just not able to navigate to the tool box
[14:54] <teknico> arosales: I get an authorization request, and then an empty sidebar on the right
[14:57] <arosales> teknico, firefox, chrom, or chromium?
[14:59] <teknico> arosales: chromium
[15:01] <arosales> teknico, I have had the most luck with chrome
[15:01] <arosales> teknico, but as long as you can join that is the main thing :-)
[15:02] <teknico> arosales: I'll be able to once I get the URL (hint ;-) )
[15:02]  * arosales starting that now :-)
[15:03] <arosales> hopefully posting to on air works for me this time
[15:04] <arosales> For folks wishing to join us in the Juju Charm Testing hangout the URL is: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/e6a3c9896f155a4be381900f3fed310542d442b8?authuser=0&hl=en
[15:08] <arosales> notes for this session are at: http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1305-servercloud-s-juju-charm-testing
[15:08] <arosales> blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-juju-charm-testing
[15:09] <utlemming> just an fyi -- the video lag is about ~4 minutes
[15:09] <mattyw> arosales, what was the jenkins address?
[15:10] <arosales> mattyw, https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Precise/view/Precise%20Charms/
[15:10] <mattyw> arosales, thanks
[15:10] <arosales> mattyw, sure np.
[15:10] <arosales> that the latest marcoceppi has been working on for graph testing to get reliable results
[15:16] <arosales> marcoceppi, [QUESTION]: Will there be an example test folks can look at?
[15:17] <mattyw> marcoceppi, are you planning on talking about it during one of jcastro 's friday charm schools?
[15:18] <arosales> mattyw, question queued
[15:20] <jcastro> charm school is this friday btw!
[15:23] <m_3> but that charmschool won't have the integration tests examples
[15:23] <m_3> perhaps the next one
[15:24] <arosales> testing charm school may be a couple weeks out to follow when the initial testing bits are ready.
[15:25] <marcoceppi> +1 arosales
[15:25] <jcastro> yeah
[15:25] <jcastro> basically, anytime anything lands except the next charm school to deal with it
[15:25] <mattyw> arosales, I'm joining the hangout with questions
[15:26] <arosales> mattyw, yes please do :-)
[15:44] <marcoceppi> Questions?
[15:45] <arosales> coming round the bend . . .
[15:49] <arosales> last call for questions for Juju Charm Testing . . .
[15:49] <arosales> 3
[15:49] <arosales> 2 .  .
[15:49] <arosales> 1 . . .
[15:51] <wedgwood> marcoceppi: I'd suggest test_* rather than *.test. allows for filetype extensions (and it's the python convention, fwiw)
[15:51] <marcoceppi> wedgwood: so test_00-blah.py for lexi ordering>?
[15:51] <wedgwood> if ordering matters to you, I suppose so...
[15:52] <marcoceppi> Also, since all tests need to be +x anyways, would it matter?
[15:52] <marcoceppi> wedgwood: it would for this case
[15:52] <wedgwood> I'm also thinking *.bench would clash when listing your tests
[15:53] <wedgwood> why not just "anything executable inside x directory"
[15:53] <wedgwood> then they could be named freely
[15:54] <marcoceppi> wedgwood: as long as people didn't make their "test helpers" executable, that would be fine
[15:54] <wedgwood> ALSO, what about .exe on filesystems that don't have executable bits.
[15:54] <wedgwood> fail for both of us
[15:54] <m_3> might also wanna bootstrap tests from a single master.test file or something
[15:55] <wedgwood> shall we take this to #juju?
[15:55] <m_3> or subdir per scenario
[15:55] <marcoceppi> I guess people could just use a lib/ for helpers and then anything that's executable in tests/ run
[15:55] <wedgwood> marcoceppi: but NTFS doesn't have an executable bit
[15:55] <marcoceppi> wedgwood: .exe is whole other bundle of fun, but I could see juju test scanning for +x then for .exe
[15:56] <marcoceppi> Yeah, lets move to #juju
[16:02] <arosales> For folks wishing to join us in the hangout for the Feedback loops in the Charm Store please use
[16:02] <arosales> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/0668cba98347aa731901ad12783d4ba70dd1bebe?authuser=0&hl=en
[16:05] <arosales> Notes @ http://pad.ubuntu.com/uds-1305-servercloud-s-juju-charmstore-feedback-loops
[16:22] <arosales> Any questions for adding feedback loops to the charm store?
[16:39] <arosales> Last call for questions?
[16:41] <arosales> sinzui, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-juju-charmstore-feedback-loops work items updated
[16:42] <sinzui> thank you!
[16:47] <arosales> sinzui, thanks for joining the session :-)
[18:01] <gary_poster> jcastro, link?
[18:02] <jcastro> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/041beb28b529693593663161927dfd82747426c9?authuser=0&hl=en
[18:02] <gary_poster> thank you
[18:04] <jcastro> 2 minutes until we begin!
[18:04] <jcastro> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21819/juju-gui-development/
[18:07] <Makyo> Blog: http://jujugui.wordpress.com/
[18:08] <jcastro> http://jujucharms.com/charms/precise/wordpress
[18:13] <marcoceppi> +1 icons on deployment map
[18:24] <marcoceppi> woowho logs \o/
[18:25] <Makyo> +1 to fantastic job
[18:26] <Makyo> For instance: <url>/:flags:/gui.draganddrop.enable
[18:34] <gary_poster> If anyone wants to ask a question, now's your chance
[18:34] <marcoceppi> no questions! Thanks!
[18:35] <gary_poster> :-)
[18:35] <arosales> just a +1 for general Juju GUI goodness
[18:36] <arosales> good to finally visually show Juju
[18:59] <hazmat> http://jujugui.wordpress.com/