[00:00] <kvothetech> vanishing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-common/+bug/946665
[00:00] <kvothetech> er vanishing sorry
[00:00] <kvothetech> misterx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-common/+bug/946665
[00:00] <ggherdov> dr_willis: to play a video on the web that is delivered via SmoothStreamingMediaElement, a proprietary thing by MS supposed to run on sulverlight
[00:00] <ggherdov> mooonlight is the Mono version of Silverlight
[00:00] <misterx> kvothetech: thanks. *reading*
[00:00] <loganlee> !ndiswrapper | switching
[00:01] <harris> how do i have ubuntu pastebin lsmod
[00:01] <switching> loganlee ty i will check it out
[00:01] <kvothetech> harris: pastebinit
[00:01] <th0r> harris, lsmod | pastebinit
[00:03] <misterx> kvothetech: hum. how should that help? and how is it related?
[00:03] <kvothetech> misterx: i think your error is related or the same one
[00:03] <kvothetech> misterx: could be wrong
[00:03] <misterx> kvothetech: what makes you think so?
[00:04] <kvothetech> misterx: look at your error and right before the seg fault then read some of the comments / logs
[00:05] <zapata2> hi! how does one install the latest version of the gspca_main webcam driver?
[00:05] <loganlee> zapata2: i guess u need to compile it
[00:05] <loganlee> !make
[00:05] <kvothetech> zapata2: download the source from git svn or whatever and compile it then add it to your modules list and modprobe it
[00:06] <roloenusa> kvothetech: Basically, i'm pretty new to Ubuntu. I have it installed in a dual core intel about 4 years old (32-bit) and a 300GB hard drive. I installed 12.0.4 LTS I keep getting /usr/lib/gnome-disk-utility/gdu-notification-daemon and other similar crashes just randomly. It's almost like the ubuntu install is corrupted, but i've reinstalled several times with the same issue.
[00:06] <elisa87> do you know how I can fix this errors in ~/.vimrc? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5669306/
[00:06] <elisa87> vanishing http://paste.ubuntu.com/5669306/
[00:06] <mustmodify> I installed Ubuntu on an old Pavillion that was slow but stable under windows. Kids complain of frequent kernel panics. Can someone give me some direction in terms of troubleshooting? I have one up on the screen now.
[00:06] <Casmo> I just installed Ubuntu Server 12.04, but now when I boot, I get an unsupported resolution. Is there a way to set the resolution before boot? Or change it while it's running (Without seeing what I'm doing :p)
[00:06] <vanishing> elisa87: i dont think you need to source that....
[00:07] <kvothetech> roloenusa: why'd you tag me in that?  uhm what's gdu-notification-daemon supposed to do would be a good starting point
[00:07] <vanishing> elisa87: you are set..restart vim..:D
[00:07] <kvothetech> Casmo: xrandr
[00:08] <loganlee> roloenusa: try installing 13.04
[00:08] <Casmo> kvothetech, that probably requires me to enter stuff, right? (And as I can't see anything I type, that's quite hard)
[00:08] <queuetip> without installing postfix or sendmail, you can email root@localhost for instance and receive mail in /var/mail, is there a way to send a box mail from the outside of that box? right now my attempts are getting denied, and i'm not sure what ubuntu uses as the default for that
[00:08] <elisa87> vanishing what are some cool styles for vim ? because mine really hurts the eye!
[00:08] <kvothetech> Casmo: if it's a server it probably has ssh no? and your tty's dont even work?
[00:09] <vanishing> elisa87: try molokai
[00:09] <Casmo> I actually just managed to install ssh, so I do have access to it now :P
[00:09] <kvothetech> Casmo: you can add the resolution to the kernel line in grub i think but it's been a while since i had to do that
[00:09] <roloenusa> kvothetech: sorry, like i said.. pretty noobie, and this is a fresh install of ubuntu. So not sure where to even beging this. loganlee: will 13.04 perform well on old pcs?
[00:09] <Casmo> Also, tty's don't work, I also get an unsupported resolution in there.
[00:09] <Casmo> But hey, I do have SSH now. :)
[00:09] <loganlee> roloenusa: i dont know its worth while try
[00:09] <clcto> Casmo: yes, once you install something you can use it
[00:10] <vanishing> kvothetech: btw, do you always reset cflags with you are compiling kernel?
[00:10] <vanishing> when*
[00:10] <kvothetech> Casmo: i'd look at the options for your video card and setting resolution in grub/as it loads kernel...kms dose this for example
[00:10] <roloenusa> loganlee: lol.. ok. I'll give that a try. Do you know any idea what that error means? google returns with mostly unity errors but no real fixes.
[00:11] <kvothetech> vanishing: I'm on gentoo I set my cflags when i installed haven't touched them since
[00:11] <Casmo> I have no clue what video card I have though. I got this pc from a relative today =P
[00:11] <vanishing> kk
[00:11] <kvothetech> vanishing: CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
[00:12] <kvothetech> vanishing: and MAKEOPTS="-j5" is what i have (i have an i5)
[00:12] <vanishing> kvothetech: i assume if you have i7 you would change that to -j7?
[00:12] <kvothetech> vanishing: if you have errors with 02 you could always make it 01
[00:13] <kvothetech> vanishing: no -j<cpu/corecount plus 1> so it'd be -j9
[00:13] <vanishing> ahh
[00:13] <kvothetech> that simply tells it how much cpu you have and that it can nail the fuck out of it :)
[00:14] <shankstaBytes> how can i export my account settings for thunderbird?
[00:14] <kvothetech> shankstaBytes: file export? or look for them in $HOME/.?thunderbird? and go from there
[00:15] <alecb> ok, current situation: I have a windows install and a (potentially broken) ubuntu install on my hard drive. on bootup, I get put into a grub console and don't know what to do to boot. right now I'm on a live ubuntu dvd (right after an installation/upgrade failed) what can I do to get access to my windows partition and fix/get access to the ubuntu partition (I don't care if I lose the data on the ubuntu partition)
[00:15] <vanishing> kvothetech: http://www.allancole.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/fingers-crossed.jpg
[00:15] <slashjoel69> I dont know if any one know or not but i just installed ubuntu server13.04 and it took the install fine but when it booted back up it just says input not supported? any help
[00:16] <elisa87> vanishing where should I put the http://www.vim.org/scripts/download_script.php?src_id=9750 into?
[00:16] <vanishing> slashjoel69: i just got the news that you installed ubuntu server 13.04...:D
[00:16] <nintet> what is the most popular WYSIWYG editor for ubuntu?
[00:16] <nintet> komposer?
[00:17] <brunost> kvothetech: I am a knob, didn't have cifs-utils installed, works now
[00:17] <kvothetech> brunost: lol k
[00:17] <brunost> added it to my fstab so it automounts and all now
[00:17] <nintet> nevermind... now i know why it didnt show up... it is "kompoZer"
[00:18] <nintet> thanks!
[00:18] <slashjoel69> any one know what my prob could be?
[00:19] <vanishing> slashjoel69: if you can provide any log, it would a great help..
[00:19] <kvothetech> slashjoel69: your locales, keyboard map, etc all valid?
[00:19] <slashjoel69> the server just boots and after bios then it says that not logs
[00:19] <misterx> kvothetech: seems to be a f*ckup in my xorg.conf
[00:20] <misterx> kvothetech: deleted it and now it works… o_O
[00:20] <vanishing> misterx: grats..:D
[00:20] <misterx> vanishing: hum.
[00:20] <misterx> vanishing: i remember spending hours to get my 3 monitors working (2 cards…)
[00:20] <tats> hi. i'm running ubuntu 12.10 and i want to upgrade to 13.04 (my system seems to be broken and I was recommended to try doing that). in the process of upgrading from a liveUSB i'm told that I haven't selected a swap space. when I try to select a swap space i get the error "Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/sda5 - Device or resource busy." How can I fix that?
[00:21] <alecb> bump: ok, current situation: I have a windows install and a (potentially broken) ubuntu install on my hard drive. on bootup, I get put into a grub console and don't know what to do to boot. right now I'm on a live ubuntu dvd (right after an installation/upgrade failed) what can I do to get access to my windows partition and fix/get access to the ubuntu partition (I don't care if I lose the data on the ubuntu partition -- would like to 
[00:21] <thecodeischaos> i have a version of ubuntu iso on my usb stick.... i am using unetbootin tool again to put a new ubuntu iso on the same stick.... do i need to format the stick first? or unetbootin will do everything needed
[00:21] <tats> or should I just go on with the installation and ignore the warning?
[00:21] <slashjoel69> well this is a true server but
[00:21] <vanishing> misterx: try to setup xdmc with multi-monitor now
[00:21] <vanishing> misterx: ha
[00:21] <alecb> i have access to a command line in the live dvd, are there any grub commands or something I can run to get at least windows bootable?
[00:22] <misterx> vanishing: ?
[00:22] <Nach0z> alecb: is there a grub installation already on that hard drive?
[00:22] <kvothetech> thecodeischaos: it'll tell you it's going to format it
[00:22] <vanishing> misterx: its a joke....as I can seem to do that...
[00:22] <vanishing> lol
[00:22] <Nach0z> and it's just broke or something?
[00:22] <thecodeischaos> ok kvothe thanks
[00:23] <kvothetech> misterx: why did you have an xorg.conf...you generally dont need one
[00:23] <tats> also: I read somewhere similar problems linked to encrypted swap partitions. I'm not sure my swap was encrypted, but in my 12.04 installation I had chosen to encrypt my home folder, so perhaps it is. the other thing worth mentioning is that I don't seem to be able to mount my /dev/sda hd (at least, not with the current settings). could it be that my disk is corrupted somehow? how can i verify that?
[00:23] <alecb> Nach0z: yeah, from a previous (or I guess, the current) failed ubuntu install. it didn't install grub correctly apparently though
[00:23] <misterx> kvothetech: three monitors, two graphic-cards, xinerama and all that stuff – i needed one.
[00:23] <kvothetech> misterx: ah lol
[00:23] <alecb> Nach0z: it's just a grub shell, doesn't drop me into a menu or anything
[00:23] <loganlee> ...
[00:24] <loganlee> alecb: reformat and reinstall
[00:25] <slashjoel69> Ok so i installed ubuntu 13.04 server to a real server.  When i boot the server after the install it says Input not supported right after the bios boots without leting me do any thing no com line i can reinstall( dell with a acer 24in led monitor) could it be the monitor?
[00:26] <loganlee> ?
[00:26] <alecb> loganlee: I'ld like to avoid wiping my windows install if I can. is there nothing I can do from the live cd to try and fix grub? (grabbing new isos and stuff is also a pain in the a** since I've currently got a 100KB/s down speed)
[00:27] <shankstaBytes> how can i export my account settings for thunderbird?
[00:27] <shankstaBytes> anyone know?
[00:27] <clcto> alecb: man grub-install
[00:27] <misterx> kvothetech: the funny thing now: sudo startx brings mit to xfce – but as root. sudo service lightdm start brings mit to lightdm – but i literally cannot login
[00:27] <misterx> strange.
[00:28] <zykotick9> misterx: "sudo startx" is a horrible idea... just sayin'
[00:29] <misterx> zykotick9: ive had horrible 5 hours of tty1 now. justsayin… :/
[00:29] <shankstaBytes> god
[00:30] <zykotick9> misterx: well, you might want to get used to that... as "sudo startx" will probably break your user account...  same as running GUI apps with sudo - breaks permissions in user's actual home dir.
[00:31] <misterx> zykotick9: understood… thank.
[00:31] <misterx> +s
[00:31] <vanishing> zykotick9: gksudo works though right?
[00:31] <zykotick9> vanishing: for GUI apps = yes.  for startx, no.
[00:31] <loganlee> gksudo rm -r /
[00:31] <vanishing> zykotick9: yea I meant the first part
[00:31] <loganlee> ;)
[00:32] <vanishing> loganlee: why did you do that?
[00:32] <loganlee> vanishing: just j/k
[00:32] <FluxD> What does it mean in the kernel changelog when it says linux ABI 3.8.0-20 ?
[00:32] <somsip> !behelpful | this is happening everyday loganlee
[00:34] <minimec> alecb: Try to recover grub following the tutorial. If this fails, you might have the posibility to rewrite the master boot sector with a winodws recover CD. http://askubuntu.com/questions/88384/how-can-i-repair-grub-how-to-get-ubuntu-back-after-installing-windows
[00:36] <vanishing> alecb: wait..your problem is you cant boot windows install right?
[00:37] <misterx> anyways, i still cant login
[00:37] <misterx> i get up until lightdm but with any log-in-trial, im thrown back to the log-in screen
[00:38] <Guest80767> HI everyone, I just tried to sudo aptitude install --without-recommends evince and my machine has been stuck at "Processing triggers for gconf2 ..." for almost 7 minutes?
[00:38] <elisa87> do you know why my eclipse doesn't load? here's is its log http://paste.ubuntu.com/5669367/
[00:39] <loganlee> Guest80767: wat does without recommends option do?
[00:40] <vanishing> elisa87: try this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10165693/eclipse-cannot-load-swt-libraries
[00:40] <misterx> vanishing: btw thanks for the hint with the permissions in userspace…
[00:40] <Guest80767> loganlee: It doesn't include extra packages that Ubuntu recommends.
[00:40] <w0lfspy> Why did my Ubuntu install cd just show a black screen?
[00:41] <loganlee> Guest80767: oic
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | w0lfspy
[00:41] <vanishing> misterx: is it me?....np then..:D
[00:42] <minimec> w0lfspy: ... because there is a problem with your graphics (GPU) card.
[00:42] <kvothetech> vanishing: any luck
[00:42] <misterx> vanishing: hum, mixed you up. sorry for highlight
[00:42] <misterx> zykotick9: thanks for the hint @permissions in userdir.
[00:43] <rooisto47> is there any way to use KIK on pc ?
[00:43] <vanishing> kvothetech: nope...
[00:43] <vanishing> misterx: np..
[00:43] <misterx> zykotick9: first time logged-in again after about five hours because i chown'ed some files…
[00:43] <kvothetech> vanishing: :( is there a bug for the ck patches
[00:43] <zykotick9> misterx: glad you fixed it :)
[00:43] <misterx> zykotick9: hum. lets wait for the reboot…
[00:44] <w0lfspy> Err
[00:44] <vanishing> kvothetech: not that i know of...right now I'm thinking vbox a 13.04 install and build from there or something
[00:44] <w0lfspy> Is there any way to fix it?
[00:44] <misterx> okay
[00:44] <misterx> it has definetly to do with the xorg.conf… :/
[00:44] <vanishing> w0lfspy: try the nomodeset setting
[00:44] <w0lfspy> The old ubentu cd also just showed random dots
[00:44] <w0lfspy> How do you do that?
[00:45] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | w0lfspy
[00:45] <vanishing> w0lfspy: when you are first greeted by the livecd screen, there should be options
[00:45] <w0lfspy> I saw when he did it from the installer, but my point is that the installer is just a black screwn
[00:45] <w0lfspy> Screen*
[00:46] <loganlee> w0lfspy: dude choose nomodeset option in bootloader
[00:46] <w0lfspy> What is boot loader?
[00:46] <vanishing> w0lfspy: grub, grub2, burg and the like
[00:46] <loganlee> w0lfspy: grub
[00:46] <w0lfspy> Wut
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> w0lfspy, Look at the link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[00:47] <minimec> w0lfspy: you have that first screen, where you choose how to boot the system. You can set some options there...
[00:47] <w0lfspy> I don't think I have grub
[00:47] <w0lfspy> Or grub2
[00:48] <loganlee> w0lfspy: do u have lilo?
[00:48] <w0lfspy> What is that?
[00:48] <vanishing> w0lfspy: another boot loader..
[00:48] <w0lfspy> Then probably not
[00:49] <vanishing> w0lfspy: are you booting with a livecd?
[00:49] <loganlee> w0lfspy: why cant u choose nomodeset in boot screen???
[00:50] <vanishing> loganlee: i think he mentioned hes booting from a live cd
[00:51] <vanishing> kvothetech: I think....somehow ..it worked..with a "make"
[00:51] <w0lfspy_> Oops
[00:51] <w0lfspy_> Should I Download grub?
[00:51] <vanishing> w0lfspy_: are you booting from a livecd?
[00:52] <w0lfspy_> Yes
[00:52] <vanishing> w0lfspy_: and are you trying to install ubuntu?
[00:52] <w0lfspy_> Yep
[00:52] <vanishing> w0lfspy_: can you get to the first ubuntu cd screen?
[00:52] <w0lfspy_> No
[00:52] <w0lfspy_> When I put in the cd, its just a black screen
[00:52] <vanishing> w0lfspy_: nothing shows up after the "press anything to boot from cd" message?
[00:53] <w0lfspy_> Err
[00:53] <w0lfspy_> What message?
[00:53] <vanishing> you inserted the cd/dvd, rebooted computer
[00:53] <w0lfspy_> I press the hot key for multiboot
[00:53] <w0lfspy_> Then select my cd
[00:53] <w0lfspy_> Then it is a black screen
[00:54] <vanishing> w0lfspy_: are you sure your bios settings are correct and you chose the correct cd/dvd
[00:54] <minimec> w0lfspy_: follow the 'tutorial' from the link posted above, starting here "How to enable kernel options on the livecd (before install)"... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[00:54] <w0lfspy_> I got the right dvd
[00:54] <w0lfspy_> But im not sure about the bios
[00:55] <vanishing> minimec: hes saying he can't get to the first livecd screen..somehow
[00:55] <minimec> vanishing: ok. I see...
[00:56] <w0lfspy_> Err
[00:56] <w0lfspy_> Should I change something in my bios?
[00:57] <w0lfspy_> Uuh
[00:58] <vanishing> w0lfspy_: its most likely that your didn't actually boot into the live cd..
[00:58] <w0lfspy_> Err
[00:58] <w0lfspy_> Ill just do it again and tell you what I do.
[00:58] <w0lfspy_> Ok?
[00:59] <vanishing> w0lfspy_: when its booting up, does the dvd drive make any sound, or any indicator that its actually working
[00:59] <minimec> w0lfspy_: If your BIOS would ignore the DVD device, it would start the installed OS, if there is any... Otherwise, there might be a MultiBoot option in the BIOS. I had to activate it on several computers.
[00:59] <misterx> where can i see when a specific package in a repository was updated the last time?
[00:59] <w0lfspy_> I pressed f12
[00:59] <w0lfspy_> ,the. Scrolled Down to ATAPI CD: slim type DVD
[01:00] <w0lfspy_> Then pressed enter
[01:00] <vanishing> minimec: try apt-cache
[01:00] <w0lfspy_> Then it says secure boot bot enabled
[01:00] <w0lfspy_> Then a black screen
[01:01] <vanishing> minimec: opps..wrong highlight..
[01:01] <w0lfspy_> Then the DVD drive Just turned off
[01:01] <minimec> w0lfspy_: That 'smells' like an UEFI BIOS problem... I am out ;)
[01:01] <w0lfspy_> Eer
[01:01] <w0lfspy_> What?
[01:01] <Kovica> In 11.10 and 12.04 times you could download alternate CDs and create your own preseed files to automate the install. Now with 12.10 that the alternate CD does not exist, I'm wondering what are the choices? The limitation I have is that everything has to be on CD/DVD/USB, so network installtion is out of question.
[01:02] <loganlee> w0lfspy_: have u tried bios settings?
[01:03] <w0lfspy_> I just opened them
[01:03] <w0lfspy_> What should I do?
[01:04] <loganlee> w0lfspy_: in bios look at boot order
[01:04] <w0lfspy_> Ok
[01:04] <minimec> w0lfspy_: Is this a new computer that came with 'windows 8' on it? Then my UEFI theory would make sense...
[01:05] <w0lfspy_> Should I put my cd to the top?
[01:05] <w0lfspy_> minimec: Nope
[01:05] <w0lfspy_> Err
[01:05] <w0lfspy_> Should I put my cd to the top?
[01:05] <loganlee> w0lfspy_: try
[01:05] <vanishing> w0lfspy_: could be just a boot order problem...
[01:05] <w0lfspy_> Pk
[01:05] <w0lfspy_> Ok*
[01:06] <loganlee> w0lfspy_: yes try
[01:06] <minimec> w0lfspy_: OK. That 'secure boot' thing is strange. Can you access the BIOS
[01:06] <w0lfspy_> Oh
[01:06] <w0lfspy_> That fixed it
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> !uefi
[01:06] <vanishing> w0lfspy_: lol...yep..boot order problem..
[01:06] <w0lfspy_> Now to install!!!
[01:06] <loganlee> w0lfspy_: it works now
[01:07] <loganlee> ?
[01:07] <w0lfspy_> Yep
[01:07] <w0lfspy_> Wl
[01:07] <w0lfspy_> Well
[01:07] <loganlee> o cool
[01:07] <w0lfspy_> At least the first screen
[01:07] <loganlee> cool man
[01:07] <vanishing> w0lfspy_: proceed carefully though
[01:07] <w0lfspy_> I pressed install and it said error: something
[01:08] <vanishing> w0lfspy_: working?
[01:08] <w0lfspy_> Then kernel panic - not syncing vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[01:08] <w0lfspy_> Err
[01:09] <loganlee> w0lfspy_: go to bios and change priority for hard drive. you need to boot from correct hard drive
[01:09] <w0lfspy_> What?
[01:09] <loganlee> nm
[01:09] <loganlee> im not sure
[01:09] <w0lfspy_> How to I get out of the kernel panic screen?
[01:10] <vanishing> try alt+sysrq reisub
[01:10] <w0lfspy_> Hold down the power button?
[01:10] <w0lfspy_> vanishing: Err
[01:10] <vanishing> w0lfspy_: that works too
[01:10] <vanishing> lol
[01:10] <w0lfspy_> What are those last two keys?
[01:11] <vanishing> w0lfspy_: this will explain it..a nice read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[01:11] <vanishing> w0lfspy_: but im not sure about the kernel panic problem
[01:13] <w0lfspy_> Should I check the disk for defects?
[01:13] <w0lfspy_> I guess so
[01:14] <vanishing> w0lfspy_: i doubt it...
[01:14] <loganlee> w0lfspy_: use different ubuntu cd
[01:14] <w0lfspy_> Reading sector somthing was the error
[01:14] <w0lfspy_> Kernel panic...
[01:15] <brian_> on an install ?
[01:15] <w0lfspy_> Ill try the other cd
[01:15] <loganlee> w0lfspy_: yeh
[01:16] <w0lfspy_> Ok
[01:16] <w0lfspy_> Pk
[01:16] <w0lfspy_> Ok
[01:16] <w0lfspy_> Its just showing random dots on the screen with the other dvd
[01:16] <OerHeks> "<w0lfspy_> Then it says secure boot bot enabled" secure boot issue, disable it , see !UEFI
[01:16] <OerHeks> !uefi
[01:17] <loganlee> oic
[01:17] <ramon> i had to use an old ubuntu version (11.04) to reinstall it as i had a little problem upgrading to 13.04 but now i cant get to burn a dvd cause it does not detect the disc...could someone help me out work around cause going by version i also got stock in 11.10
[01:18] <vanishing> ramon: could it be the same problem...
[01:19] <w0lfspy> Should I use the installer program for windows?
[01:19] <ramon> vanishing, i believe there is a graphic card problem around but for now i would like to get to burn a dvd and i am having problem to get ubuntu to recognize the media on the drive
[01:20] <vanishing> ramon: oh you mean you boot fine, but can get the install to recognize the dvd?
[01:20] <ramon> vanishing, thats right
[01:20] <brian_> i have been working on installing ati drivers on ubuntu 12.04 and also have tried linux-lite 1.04, 1.06. Always displays "input not supported after the driver has installed. Now I have spent around a week on this and I cant figure it out
[01:21] <w0lfspy> I guess so
[01:21] <w0lfspy> Bye!
[01:22] <brian_> video card is radeon hd 6570 and monitor is acer 183h
[01:22] <alecb> is there a guide somewhere explaining how to manually setup grub from a live cd so that something is bootable if an install failed?
[01:22] <brian_> tried the step by step instructions on ubuntu support site
[01:23] <OerHeks> !grub
[01:23] <vanishing> alecb: you cant boot into your windows install from grub right?
[01:24] <alecb> vanishing: no, grub got all messed up after a failed 13.04 upgrade/install. all I get on boot is a grub console, no menu or anything
[01:24] <alecb> vanishing: I'm on a livecd now
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> alecb, See the grub links, the bootrepair tool can generate a bootinfo summary that is helpful to hve here.
[01:25] <vanishing> alecb: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:25] <brian_> anyone have any idea what I can do differently ?
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> alecb, If you want o just use the live cd this is a link I use when needed. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[01:32] <alecb> wilee-nilee: "just use the livecd"? like you mean just install ubuntu with it? the problem is I think the livecds fucked up (or else something else is fucked up preventing it from working), because it's failed twice. current plan is to see if I can fix grub and boot into windows and maybe burn a fresh iso
[01:32] <funkbox> so, does anyone run mint on a chromebook pixel? i just got one and would like to get a real os on it
[01:32] <vanishing> alecb: did boot-repair work?
[01:33] <alecb> vanishing: sorry didn't try it yet, was afk
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> alecb, What windows release is it and do you have a recovery or install disc for it?
[01:35] <alecb> wilee-nilee: it's 7. I can get a fresh iso (legally) but I'd rather avoid that since it'll take like 7ish hours with my current down speed
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> alecb, To fix grub if fixable you need to boot a live cd, or use like supergrub to get into the install, or manually boot from a grub>
[01:37] <brian_> if you are getting installation errors, it is possible your partitions could be messed up. or u could have some unallocated space
[01:38] <brian_> personally, I have had install errors and it was due to the face I had " 1meg" of unallocated space
[01:38] <brian_> fact*
[01:38] <alecb> wilee-nilee, vanishing I just ran boot-repair and it said it worked, so I'll try and reboot now I guess and see what happens. in case I lose them these are the before/after pasties from boot-repair: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5669462/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5669465/
[01:38] <vanishing> alecb: best of luck
[01:39] <alecb> ty :)
[01:40] <loganlee> what are the best games for ubuntu?
[01:40] <loganlee> !games
[01:40] <vanishing> !ck
[01:40] <vanishing> no information about ck..:(
[01:45] <loganlee> any one here?
[01:45] <thecodeischaos> the error the grub-efi package failed to install into /target/..... i remember, just before in my BIOS -boot override, there were 2 options for the same usb stick -one said uefi, i chose that one... could that be the cause of the rrror?
[01:45] <darthanubis> !ask |loganlee
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> thecodeischaos, There is a uefi wiki have you seen it?
[01:47] <thecodeischaos> no
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | thecodeischaos
[01:47] <thecodeischaos> ok thanks
[01:48] <vanishing> sigh
[01:48] <thecodeischaos> i thought uefi has been a the standard for years now?
[01:48] <vanishing> its been a whole day I spent trying to patch and compile the 3.9 kernel
[01:48] <Ari-Yang> vanishing, it work out?
[01:49] <Ari-Yang> what version are you on?
[01:49] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: nope...
[01:49] <Ari-Yang> aw
[01:49] <Ari-Yang> ubuntu 13.10 is suppose to run on kernel 3.9, right?
[01:49] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: yep..
[01:50] <Ari-Yang> yeah, when 3.04 becomes more stable, I'll upgrade from 12.10, and when 3.10 becomes more stable, I'll upgrade to that.
[01:50] <vanishing> 3.9.0.2uname -r
[01:50] <vanishing> 3.9.0-2-generic
[01:50] <Ari-Yang> OS: Linux 3.5.0-28-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "quantal" 12.10 **
[01:50] <Ari-Yang> I think there's a 3.5.0-30 update
[01:51] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: I'd say 13.04 is pretty stable
[01:51] <Ari-Yang> oh?
[01:51] <Ari-Yang> think this laptop can handle 13.04? hold on, let me get specs
[01:52] <Ari-Yang> http://sprunge.us/RULD
[01:52] <Ari-Yang> ^ vanishing
[01:52] <alecb> yay, I'm in windows. time to re-burn and try the ubuntu install again I guess
[01:52] <Ari-Yang> good luck ^
[01:53] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: I would say yes
[01:53] <vanishing> alecb: it worked?
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> alecb, The install was missing grub basically.
[01:53] <alecb> wilee-nilee: grub was definitely on there (I was getting dropped into a grub shell before), it just wasn't configured right I guess
[01:54] <alecb> vanishing: seemed to -- booting went straight into windows (no grub menu or anything), but I guess that makes some sense because windows is the only not-broken OS on my drive?
[01:55] <alecb> should I have expected a grub menu anyway?
[01:55] <thecodeischaos> ahhh yes it was the boot thingy i think.... when i installed v12 the install menu had no colors... i selected the non uefi boot and it shows the installer with colors which usually worked for me
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> alecb, It was missing  /boot/grub/grub.cfg in sda1
[01:55] <vanishing> alecb: actually it does not make sense...it should still show the grub menu..
[01:56] <alecb> vanishing: hm... well that makes me less happy
[01:57] <alecb> hm... which partition would you expect to have the boot flag right now?
[01:57] <vanishing> alecb: lol..burn the dvd, install it should make it work
[01:57] <vanishing> alecb: I think it somehow fixed your windows loader.
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> alecb, windows only needs the bootflag
[01:58] <alecb> oh, grub wouldn' care?
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> linux in general does not use a bootflag
[01:58] <alecb> huh... whatever, I guess I'll try installing again...
[01:58] <dr_willis> grub dosent care if the bootflag is enabled or not i recall.
[02:02] <loganlee> i had no trouble installing ubuntu 13.04 from virtual box :p
[02:02] <dr_willis> running 13.04 in vbox   also.. seems to work ok.
[02:02] <loganlee> it's awesome
[02:03] <loganlee> i allocated 3gb ram and 100gb hd and 3d accel enabled
[02:04] <loganlee> !hello
[02:04] <loganlee> !tux
[02:05] <loganlee> wats da mascot for ubuntu?
[02:05] <thecodeischaos> i thought it was a penguin
[02:05] <jiffe1> how do I startup vnc server?
[02:05] <thecodeischaos> oh it is
[02:05] <jiffe1> via cli that is
[02:06] <dr_willis> tux the penguin is the linux mascot
[02:06] <jiffe1> I had done it via the gui before but on reboot it doesn't appear to be running
[02:06] <dr_willis> jiffe1:  because its not a service
[02:07] <dr_willis> vncserver    is a common way to start a vnc server
[02:07] <SonikkuAmerica> loganlee: If you go to ubuntu.com and look at the circle thingie after the word "ubuntu" that's our logo... I didn't think Ubuntu itself had a mascot though.
[02:07] <rantic> Hi everyone, I have Ubuntu minimal 13.04 and I tried to install network-manager in fluxbox .. now when I attempt to startx I get a "Failed to load gnome session" on a black screen. I've since removed network-manager but clearly some of its dependencies are still causing this.
[02:07] <dr_willis> there are several vnc servers you can use
[02:07] <rantic> Anyone have any ideas?
[02:08] <dr_willis> rantic: startx is starting a different default sessiin.
[02:08] <dr_willis> id suggest using a login manager  not startx
[02:08] <loganlee> rantic: isnt network-manager part of gnome?
[02:09] <jiffe1> I don't have vncserver on this machine
[02:09] <rantic> dr_willis: I only know how to work with a .xinitrc file, where does ubuntu keep information about chosen WM's for an x session?
[02:09] <dr_willis> jiffe1:  history command should show what you have ran in the past
[02:10] <jiffe1> dr_willis: I didn't start it via cli before, I started it via the gui
[02:10] <dr_willis> rantic:  its. xsession   or   .Xsession  i thi k these days
[02:10] <dr_willis> jiffe1:  then use the gui to start it again
[02:10] <jiffe1> dr_willis: gui is about 20 miles away, I am doing this remotely
[02:11] <dr_willis> install a stand alonee vncserver  perhaps
[02:11] <rantic> dr_willis: I  don't have a .xsession in my ~, I notice there is a /etc/X11/Xsession, but this contains nothing about fluxbox or gnome to my knowledge ;(
[02:11] <dr_willis> !info vnc4server
[02:11] <jiffe1> there's really no way to do what the gui does via command line?
[02:12] <dr_willis> rantic:   make one perhaps...        .xsession
[02:12] <rantic> dr_willis: I still don't like the idea something has modified my system in this way and I don't know what it's done .. or where
[02:13] <dr_willis> it chaneged the default desktop session.. figure out how to set it perhaps.
[02:14] <dr_willis> if you used lightdm it would be saved in    .dmrc
[02:14] <dr_willis> use of startx is deperacated these days u recall
[02:15] <vanishing> rantic: you can check the dpkg log under /var/log/
[02:15] <rantic> vanishing: I'm too new to understand exactly what package would have done it, do you know where the universal Xsession file would be?
[02:16] <vanishing> rantic: locate Xsession
[02:17] <sawjig> /etc/X11/Xsession
[02:17] <loganlee> rantic: do u have xdm running?
[02:18] <sawjig> .xinitrc should still work..
[02:18] <dr_willis_> .xinitrc has been replaced by .xsession i think
[02:18] <sawjig> if he had a login manager running then startx would fail
[02:18] <dr_willis_> if you examine the 'startx'  script it may give a clue as to where its looking and in what order.
[02:19] <sawjig> dr_willis_, nope
[02:19] <dr_willis_> im no ton a ubuntu box where i can look
[02:19] <dr_willis_> i definatly recall linking .xinitr cna .Xsession or .xsession   ages ago..
[02:19] <sawjig> dr_willis_, I don't know where you got that impression from...
[02:19] <dr_willis_> sawjig:  seen it mentioned here many times
[02:19] <sawjig> you can use either..
[02:20] <sawjig> the syntax is like the same they're just bash scripts...
[02:20] <dr_willis_> they are identical files..
[02:20] <dr_willis_> or can be.
[02:20] <sawjig> yes but .xinitrc
[02:20] <sawjig> should still work
[02:20] <dr_willis_> the ise of .xinitrc i recall is slowly getting phased out from what ir ecall reading
[02:21] <sawjig> xsession is for your login manager...
[02:21] <sawjig> xinitrc isn'
[02:21] <sawjig> t going to be 'phased' out
[02:21] <dr_willis_> and its reccomeded to always use a login mamanger.. not  to use 'startx'
[02:21] <sawjig> so if you want your login manager to run the contents that you had in an .xinitrc
[02:21] <loganlee> can u run desktop manager on framebuffer?
[02:21] <roasted> Question - I'm noticing in 13.04 when I adjust the 2nd or 3rd slider within the mouse and touchpad settings on my laptop, they don't stick. If I close and reopen they're back at default settings. Another user confirmed this on a different laptop. Has anybody else noticed this?
[02:21] <sawjig> you can put it in /etc/X11/Xsession
[02:21] <Ari-Yang> for some reason when I click on 'install updates' software updater just closes. anybody know why? I'm on 12.10
[02:21] <sawjig> or .xsession
[02:21] <loganlee> dat wud b awesome
[02:21] <sawjig> dr_willis_, there's no reason someone that doesn't need a login manager can't use startx
[02:22] <sawjig> I use startx.
[02:22] <Ari-Yang> not sure if this problem is tied to software-center telling me that it has to be repaired in order for new stuff to be installed or stuff to be uninstalled....
[02:22] <loganlee> can u run desktop manager on frame buffer?
[02:22] <sawjig> someone can just kill X and get a shell even if you lock your X...
[02:22] <dr_willis_> sawjig:  its  not reccomended as i said..  we had a discussion on this in here a few weeks back
[02:22] <loganlee> !framebuffer
[02:22] <onborad> why I build  grub  package no have linuxefi mode ,I use ubuntu grub2_2.00-7ubuntu11.debian.tar.gz
[02:22] <sawjig> dr_willis_, not recommended doesn't mean .xinitrc has been replaced...
[02:22] <dr_willis_> sawjig:  its being depercated as i said..
[02:23] <dr_willis_> you just said either will work.. so basically it has been replaced
[02:23] <loganlee> just run frambuffer system
[02:23] <sawjig> dr_willis_, which is the whole thing I'm commenting on more than anything else.
[02:23] <loganlee> -_-
[02:23] <sawjig> dr_willis_, I've been using linux for years and years
[02:23] <dr_willis_> i have also..
[02:23] <zykotick9> dr_willis_: startx and .xinitrc aren't really deprecated (perhaps in ubuntu, but not the rest of the gnu/linux world)
[02:24] <sawjig> dr_willis_, I doubt they're deprwecated in ubuntu
[02:24] <sawjig> Checked the wiki
[02:24] <dr_willis_> i focus on what ubuntu has been doing. ;) i dont worry about the rest of the world these days
[02:24] <sawjig> checked the manual
[02:24] <sawjig> still says .Xinitrc
[02:24] <asdasdasdasdasd> sheldon , is that you ?
[02:24] <treanet> I want to use MAAS. I have a public connection for my uplink to the maas server although I would rather PXE nodes locally? How can I ensure dhcp/pxe/provisioning is on seperate interface?
[02:24] <loganlee> asdasdasdasdasd: do you like framebuffer
[02:25] <supertough> can someone help me connect a VNC from my sgs3 to ubuntu 12.10 Desktop Sharing
[02:25] <supertough> I enter the correct IP:port
[02:25] <dr_willis_> loganlee:  the framebuffer was a neat idea.. but it just often dosent work very well. ;(
[02:25] <supertough> the sgs3 attempt connecting.... wheel keeping going and going.
[02:25] <loganlee> the feeling of watching porn images on console is very awesome
[02:25] <loganlee> -_-
[02:26] <supertough> how do i KNow if my Desktop Sharing on Ubuntu is actually enable?
[02:26] <supertough> I put the check and check on allow
[02:26] <dr_willis_> supertough:  see if your localbox can connect to iteslf? and have a desktop in a desktop
[02:26] <sawjig> "/mnt/320/books/Science/Chemistry/Biological & Industrial/Bromatology/Fermentation/Handbook of enology 2ed 2006"
[02:27] <treanet> blarg
[02:27] <asdasdasdasdasd> rm -rf /
[02:27] <somsip> !danger | asdasdasdasdasd
[02:27] <supertough> i got only the phone and the desktop
[02:27] <Ari-Yang> what does apt-get -f install do?
[02:27] <supertough> both are on the local router
[02:27] <treanet> wow smart bot
[02:28] <supertough> -f is force
[02:28] <dr_willis_> supertough:   vnc clients exist for smartphones
[02:28] <supertough> dr_willis: i'm on that vnc on android
[02:28] <supertough> IPaddress:port are both enter correctly
[02:28] <eph3meral> anyone have ideas on how to deal with dynamic deploy of dev branches for demo purposes on to e.g. a cluster of say 10 VPSes running on EC2 instances
[02:28] <loganlee> !powershell
[02:28] <supertough> on the VNC side and Desktop Sharing is enable on the Desktop
[02:28] <dr_willis_> supertough:  what port are you using?
[02:29] <somsip> eph3meral: fab can be useful if you want a small scale deployment system
[02:29] <supertough> netstat -an |more
[02:29] <supertough> it shows up as port 5900
[02:29] <loganlee> how can it not know powershell :\
[02:29] <loganlee> netstat -an | less
[02:29] <eph3meral> somsip: heh, I've actually contributed to fab :)
[02:29] <eph3meral> we are a ruby/rails shop however
[02:29] <supertough> do I need to do anything with ufw?
[02:29] <eph3meral> and though I don't think it's at all out of the question, something more ruby-oriented would be preferred I'm sure
[02:30] <eph3meral> and by preferred, I mean easier to sell to my superiors
[02:30] <dr_willis_> supertough:  perhaps turn off the filrewall rules to  test it out
[02:30] <eph3meral> and by easier to sell I mean they hate python :(
[02:30] <supertough> like sudo ufw allow from IPaddress to port
[02:30] <eph3meral> be a man and edit your iptables by hand :P
[02:30] <supertough> where is this firewall rule setting at?
[02:30] <dr_willis_> sudi iptables --list    shows all rules
[02:30] <somsip> eph3meral: I have no experience of RoR, but use fab to deploy to PHP-only projects. Anyway - you clearly know fab so maybe you need something else
[02:30] <dr_willis_> sudo iptables --list
[02:31] <eph3meral> yeah I was going to go with some combination of chef and puppet
[02:31] <eph3meral> I'm just not sure which combination will work
[02:31] <somsip> eph3meral: those would have been my other recommendations. Salt *may* be worth looking at too
[02:31] <eph3meral> er, blerp, chef and capistrano
[02:32] <loganlee> sudo iptables -F
[02:32] <supertough> I have no clue what all of this are telling me
[02:32] <aktifisus> Hi can anybody help me to install  amd catalyts privative d river 13.4 on ubuntu raring raintail thats are a .run file
[02:32] <supertough> I managed to Remotely access my desktop yesterday but today I can't
[02:32] <batmite> hello :)
[02:34] <aktifisus> hi
[02:34] <loganlee> hruhruhru
[02:34] <onborad> How can build grub2.efi with linuxefi mode?
[02:35] <aktifisus> u_u
[02:35] <dr_willis_> i thought there was a grub-uefi  package
[02:35] <dr_willis_> !info grub-uefi
[02:36] <dr_willis_> supertough:  'sudo iptables --list' shows if theres any firewall rules.. you are doing this all over a local lan?
[02:36] <loganlee> !info tux
[02:36] <supertough> yes this is local router
[02:36] <supertough> port 23 is disable on firewall
[02:37] <supertough> i was able to access desktop sharing before but can't today
[02:37] <dr_willis_> if your lan is behind a router - i really dont see much point on any firewall rules beeing needed at all
[02:37] <supertough> failed to establish connection with the server
[02:38] <olsonea> hi folks, anyone here worked with USB audio interfaces?
[02:40] <eph3meral> somsip: hmm, it looks like the rubber gem may be a good candidate
[02:40] <eph3meral> fwiw
[02:40] <eph3meral> somsip: and I know fab isn't trying to necessarily be capistrano, but something like what rubber provides might be nice
[02:40] <eph3meral> though I haven't tried rubber yet, only looking now, but it purports to be what I am wanting
[02:44] <swiss> so i have an issue with online accounts. Its with the plugins, its looking for library files that aren't included in any package
[02:44] <swiss> it is looking for /usr/lib/libaccount-plugin-1.0/applications/libunity-scope-gdrive.so
[02:44] <swiss> and such
[02:44] <aktifisus> hi can anybody help me to install  driver amd catalyts 13 on ubuntu raring
[02:44] <somsip> eph3meral: looks like it adds some nice features.
[02:45] <treanet> ubuntu is ubuntu
[02:45] <ZNaught> Hello, I just installed linux, and during boot the screen flickers very quickly and text overlays itself. It never actually boots. What can I do about it?
[02:45] <somsip> s/adds/has
[02:46] <GinTonicool> how can i watch free live TV news
[02:46] <GinTonicool> thanks for help
[02:46] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | GinTonicool
[02:47] <swiss> is there a development channel
[02:48] <olsonea> anyone here worked with USB audio interfaces? i'm having some trouble getting output to run through a Behringer UCA-222
[02:48] <olsonea> from what i can tell, Ubuntu sees the interface
[02:48] <SonikkuAmerica> olsonea: You have PulseAudio I assume?
[02:49] <GinTonicool> sorry sorry. can you guys give me somelike '#'  channel so i can get help
[02:49] <olsonea> yes
[02:49] <olsonea> i think so
[02:50] <olsonea> SonikkuAmerica: confirmed, i do. i had been trying to configure it using alsamixer though
[02:50] <SonikkuAmerica> olsonea: You'll have to use PulseAudio to configure USB audio devices these days.
[02:51] <olsonea> do i need to disable alsa?
[02:52] <swiss> i'm debating a full reinstall :/
[02:52] <aktifisus> nobody?
[02:52] <swiss> olsonea: no, i don't believe so
[02:52] <ZNaught> Can anyone help me? I really want to get ubuntu working
[02:52] <SonikkuAmerica> olsonea: As a heuristic maybe, but you'll need to run pavucontrol (Unity's System Settings > Sound) to switch correctly
[02:52] <SonikkuAmerica> ZNaught: What's up?
[02:52] <swiss> aktifisus: what's wrong with the way you're installing it
[02:52] <olsonea> ah
[02:53] <swiss> ZNaught: are you familiar with changing the grub commandline options?
[02:53] <Saiki> what's the commanline command to replace all instances of one word with another inside a folder's files (and subfolders)?
[02:53] <FusionX> Gparted is unable to mount my other ntfs partition and says "the enclosing drive for the volume is locked" while I'm able to mount the partitions with the "mount" command.
[02:53] <ZNaught> swiss: Nope
[02:53] <swiss> ZNaught: did you try booting to the recovery option?
[02:53] <olsonea> SonikkuAmerica: ok. i see why i went down the alsa road. I can see the interface on the Config tab, but it's not appearing on the Output/Input Devices tabs
[02:54] <ZNaught> SonikkuAmerica: The screen flickers and text overlays when booting into the OS. It never actually boots
[02:54] <swiss> ZNaught: smash that esc key during startup till you get to the grub menu, then try the recovery one
[02:54] <SonikkuAmerica> olsonea: Did you reboot since you plugged it in?
[02:54] <ZNaught> swiss: It also happened on the CD. safemode did work on the CD
[02:54] <olsonea> did not
[02:54] <swiss> ZNaught: graphics issues
[02:55] <SonikkuAmerica> ZNaught: Work with swiss on this one; I have to go to bed soon.
[02:55] <swiss> Saiki: ls | while read line; do newname=$(echo $line | sed -e "s/oldword/newword/"); mv """$line""" """$newname"""; doen
[02:55] <ZNaught> swiss: It worked fine last time I had it on here
[02:55] <ZNaught> SonikkuAmerica: alright thanks
[02:55] <swiss> Saiki: err..... done at the end, fat typo
[02:55] <olsonea> SonikkuAmerica: i've got 8 days of uptime
[02:55] <SonikkuAmerica> olsonea: Give that a shot.
[02:55] <swiss> ZNaught: what do you mean?
[02:55] <SonikkuAmerica> olsonea: 8 days? Are you running a server? lol
[02:55] <swiss> ZNaught: OH i bet i know what you're running~
[02:56] <olsonea> ha
[02:56] <swiss> ZNaught: what type of computer is it
[02:56] <SonikkuAmerica> olsonea: Reboots usually work wonders.
[02:56] <ZNaught> swiss: custom build desktop
[02:56] <swiss> builtin graphics?
[02:57] <ZNaught> swiss: dedicated GPU - GTX 470
[02:57] <swiss> hmmm
[02:57] <olsonea> heh
[02:57] <olsonea> sorry, i hate rebooting :)
[02:57] <olsonea> pulseaudio -k
[02:58] <olsonea> and then pulseaudio --start
[02:58] <swiss> ZNaught: try booting in recovery mode
[02:58] <olsonea> the interface is now showing on the output tab
[02:58] <olsonea> thanks!
[02:58] <Saiki> swiss: ls | while read line; do newname=$(echo $line | sed -e "s/mine/yours/"); mv """$line""" """$newname"""; done  <like this?
[02:58] <olsonea> uptime...intact!
[02:58] <swiss> Saiki: while in the directory, yeah, that should do it
[02:58] <SonikkuAmerica> olsonea: Hate to cut short but it's 11 PM in my neck of the woods. Gotta hit the hay! Meantime, try a reboot and flag me in the morning if it doesn't work.
[02:58] <Saiki> swiss: ok, thanks :)
[02:58] <swiss> Saiki: copy 2 or so to another directory to test it
[02:58] <olsonea> SonikkuAmerica: thanks for your help1
[02:58] <swiss> or you can live on the edge and just run it
[02:58] <ZNaught> swiss: I am assuming it will work, it did on the live CD
[02:59] <swiss> ZNaught: right right, but then you can get debugging output
[02:59] <swiss> can't get much out of the system if you can't see what you're working on
[03:00] <swiss> i'm still peeved at online-accounts
[03:00] <swiss> i might just do a reinstall
[03:00] <swiss> also, it *so* did not play nice with gnome3
[03:00] <shankstaBytes> hey
[03:00] <shankstaBytes> anyone got the apple magic mouse working?
[03:01] <ZNaught> swiss: I am just thinking it is more than just the install because the live CD had the same problem as the install
[03:01] <FusionX> Can anyone guide me how to install brogue?
[03:01] <swiss> ZNaught: i agree with you
[03:01] <FusionX> *me on
[03:01] <swiss> ZNaught: i think it's the graphics drivers, and the safe mode doesn't turn those on. I'm wondering if you can get some info about the system while you're booted in to figure out what needs to change to make it work
[03:02] <swiss> like once you boot up in safe mode, install all the updates, and the specific drivers for your card
[03:02] <ZNaught> alright I will try. I am on the same PC, so I will have to try it that way
[03:02] <ZNaught> thanks for the help
[03:02] <Saiki> swiss: http://pastebin.com/DqqezT9S
[03:03] <swiss> ZNaught: mmhmm
[03:03] <swiss> Saiki: yep yep
[03:03] <swiss> that's fine
[03:03] <tats> hi. upon upgrading from 12.10 to 13.04 the install process seems to be stalled on the "Saving installed packages..." step. it's been over an hour now. is it normal?
[03:03] <swiss> Saiki: it just tried to move the ones that didn't contain that name into the same file, which is what the script should do
[03:03] <swiss> just knoew that it wouldn't break things
[03:13] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[03:14] <ArcticLight> hello
[03:14] <camilo_>  traductor google: I have audio problems with my ubuntu ... also sounded until I turned the volume down completely ... then he turned up the volume and sounded more
[03:15] <knightmade> could anyone tell me how tu modify the configuration in /etc/ldap/slapd.d?
[03:16] <knightmade> all the ldif files in /etc/ldap/slapd.d are marked by " # AUTO-GENERATED FILE - DO NOT EDIT!! Use ldapmodify."
[03:16] <ArcticLight> hi there... I'm having a bit of a problem with a new 13.04 install. Does anyone know the "correct" way to run a graphical application (like Nautilus or Gedit) as root? All of the documentation online still says use gksudo but gksudo is not installed on 13.04
[03:17] <Millo> hi guys, I'm having trouble finding my harddrive in gparted/testdisk (external usb).  Is anyone experienced in this area?  I'm looking to just erase the drive, but it was corrupted for a while
[03:17] <batmite> your using ubuntu?
[03:17] <Millo> yes
[03:17] <Millo> live
[03:18] <batmite> ah.
[03:18] <otend> when reinstalling Ubuntu Server, how do I delete the previous LVM setup so that I can use the whole disk again?
[03:18] <supertough> what software is it controlling Desktop Sharing?
[03:18] <knightmade> but when I tried to modify it with ldapmodify and rootDN, it reports "ldap_modify: Insufficient access (50)"
[03:18] <researcher123> is there any application which can help me find duplicate files and remove them?
[03:18] <somsip> knightmade: try suto ldapmodify
[03:19] <somsip> *sudo
[03:19] <otend> in other words, how can I format a disk that once held LVM on the Ubuntu Server installer?
[03:19] <knightmade> sudo does not work
[03:19] <batmite> Millo: You just want to format a old ext drive?
[03:19] <knightmade> same error
[03:20] <batmite> Gparted should get you there.. whats happening?
[03:20] <Millo> it's not there
[03:20] <Millo> my internal shows, my live usb shows
[03:20] <Blue1> knightmade: shat error?
[03:20] <batmite> this is a usb?
[03:20] <FusionX> Gparted is unable to mount my other ntfs partition and says "the enclosing drive for the volume is locked" while I'm able to mount the partitions with the "mount" command.
[03:20] <Millo> it was working in testdisk before, but when i tried a search on it it came up with some error, i closed termina; as it had crashed, and it's no longer showing
[03:20] <researcher123> is there a channel to study the reviews of Ubuntu 13.04?
[03:21] <knightmade> shat error? what's meanings?
[03:21] <somsip> knightmade: Maybe this will help: http://serverfault.com/questions/451869/ldap-modify-insufficient-access-50
[03:21] <Millo> yes batmite - it's an external usb with a mains
[03:21] <otend> "Because the volume group(s) on the selected device also consist of physical volumes on other devices, it is not considered safe to remove its LVM data automatically."
[03:21] <ArcticLight> hi there... I'm having a bit of a problem with a new 13.04 install. Does anyone know the "correct" way to run a graphical application (like Nautilus or Gedit) as root? All of the documentation online still says use gksudo but gksudo is not installed on 13.04
[03:22] <somsip> !gksudo | ArcticLight
[03:22] <ArcticLight> Um.
[03:22] <ArcticLight> Gksudo is not installed on 13.04
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> ArcticLight, maybe sudo apt-get install gksudo ?
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> *shrugs*
[03:22] <somsip> ArcticLight: sorry - just read through properly...
[03:22] <ArcticLight> I know you *can* install it, it's just that it's been removed and the reports I've read show that it's been removed for a reason, and might not be available in future ubuntu systems
[03:23] <Blue1> knightmade: this may/may not help:  http://pkill-9.com/how-to-easily-do-sudo-in-debian/
[03:23] <ArcticLight> I wanted to know what's in place to do the same thing (e.g. what's the "right" way to do it now in 13.04)
[03:23] <batmite> Millo: Have you tried "disk-utility"? might be called "disks" now
[03:24] <Millo> sec
[03:24] <Millo> is there a terminal command?
[03:24] <Millo> ah
[03:24] <Millo> in it, it's not showing
[03:24] <batmite> ok
[03:24] <Millo> since that bad sector error/my closing terminal via the X it's not showing anywhere
[03:25] <loganlee_> Millo: http://pastebin.com/tP32U6T0
[03:25] <Millo> before, the only place that found it was testdisk
[03:25] <batmite> yeah
[03:25] <Millo> loganlee_ - I don't understand?
[03:25] <ArcticLight> milo: The disk utility from the command line is gnome-disks in 13.04, it's probably something different in Ubuntu 12
[03:25] <Millo> thanks ArcticLight - I found the app in the list
[03:26] <batmite> unplug the usb, plug it in and do "dmesg" in terminal. you'll at least have the right path..
[03:26] <Millo> it WAS sdc3
[03:26] <batmite> cant you wipe it with "dd" also?
[03:26] <somsip> ArcticLight: where did you read that gksudo has been removed?
[03:26] <Millo> dd?
[03:26] <Millo> sorry, sdc, not sdc3
[03:27] <ArcticLight> Ari-Yang: sudo apt-get install gksu will work, I'm just wondering why it's not installed by default, and what the decision was to remove it?
[03:27] <batmite> type dd -h
[03:27] <batmite> or --help
[03:27] <Ari-Yang> ArcticLight, if I were you, I'd just google to find out why it was removed....
[03:27] <Ari-Yang> surely somebody has asked that before
[03:27] <ArcticLight> somsip: http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/6634/psa-gksu-is-no-longer-installed-by-default
[03:27] <batmite> Ari-Yang: lol took the words out of my mouth
[03:28] <ArcticLight> Ari-Yang: Apparently it's over some security issues, but nowhere does anyone say what I'm supposed to use instead
[03:28] <ArcticLight> they mention pkexec, but that doesn't run graphical programs either
[03:29] <OerHeks> why no gksudo > http://askubuntu.com/a/284717
[03:29] <somsip> ArcticLight: In general the development team would prefer us not to use GUI applications as root but to use sudo and the command line instead.
[03:29] <din> why not just use sudo?
[03:29] <Ari-Yang> ArcticLight, I say install gksudo... is gksu installed?
[03:29] <knightmade> But I don't known the password of the DN "cn=admin,olcDatabase={1}hdb,cn=config" or "cn=admin,cn=config"^
[03:29] <Millo> load of stuff came up for dmesg
[03:30] <somsip> ArcticLight: or it suggests to sudo -i to setup the env, then run the GUI program
[03:30] <Ari-Yang> I mean, if gksudo doesn't work, just remove it...
[03:30] <batmite> your usb should be near the end of you unplugged it and plugged it back in
[03:30] <somsip> ArcticLight: both of these on http://askubuntu.com/questions/284306/why-is-gksu-no-longer-installed-by-default-in-13-04 linked to fromt he page you gave
[03:30] <batmite> sdb something usually
[03:30] <Millo> it was sdc before
[03:30] <batmite> or sdc etc
[03:30] <batmite> yeah
[03:30] <Millo> pastebin.com/yJfCckBy
[03:30] <ArcticLight> somesip: um........ so the answer to my question is essentially "Don't"...
[03:31] <ArcticLight> ?
[03:31] <knightmade> ldapmodify -D "cn=admin,cn=config" -W -x -f xxxx.lidf  =>  ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)  ...
[03:31] <somsip> ArcticLight: the answer is, the dev team encourage you to use sudo, and that is done by sudo -i to setup the env in the same way that (I assume) gksudo did
[03:31] <somsip> no - not right
[03:32] <otend> I'm having trouble finding methods of removing the LVM data from the Ubuntu Server USB
[03:32] <otend> or in general
[03:32] <Ari-Yang> @ ArcticLight might want to also look at this http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/6634/psa-gksu-is-no-longer-installed-by-default
[03:32] <otend> well
[03:32] <somsip> ArcticLight: use sudo and a CLI program, or use sudo -i and GUI if you must. That's my interpretation
[03:32] <ArcticLight> somesip: If I understand the -i command correctly, it won't set it up the same way
[03:32] <otend> not FROM the USB, but from a volume as I use the installation USB
[03:32] <somsip> ArcticLight: I'm going from that URL. I don't use gksudo at all and always use CLI
[03:33] <din> otend: pvremove on your usb drive should wipe the label.
[03:33] <supertough> I used dd command to erase my usb
[03:34] <Lusha> hello
[03:34] <supertough> but when i replug it is not completely destroy
[03:34] <ArcticLight> somesip: what about using a text editor like gedit? Where I can use my mouse? I realize that some people like the terminal, and I do use nano where it's appropriate. But sometimes I need to move a system file across a network, and that's easier using Nautilus as root, or need to open lots of system files at once and copy/paste (which is easier usin
[03:34] <ArcticLight> g gedit)
[03:34] <supertough> only way I can get it to recognize is to restart
[03:34] <ArcticLight> somesip: Oh well
[03:34] <Lusha> can some one help me with Java?
[03:34] <ArcticLight> somesip: I'll keep looking I guess
[03:34] <Morph4me> use mkfs.vfat  /dev/sdXY to wipe your usb
[03:34] <ArcticLight> Lusha: I know quite a bit about java, what do you need help with?
[03:35] <din> supertough: you used something like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=8M ?
[03:35] <somsip> ArcticLight: I can only reiterate what's said on the URL. Good luck
[03:35] <ArcticLight> somesip: Thanks for your help anyway
[03:35] <Lusha> Im trying to use command line prompts to update it because i keep getting an error from wine that it needs JRE 1.5.0 but when i go to update it at this step i get stuck  "sudo mkdir -p /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0 "
[03:36] <Lusha> I think i need to change some thing in the line but i dont know what needs to be changed
[03:37] <Blue1> Lusha: normally you would install jre from within windows - easiest way is to bring up a windows browers, then install the jre for windows from there.
[03:37] <Lusha> im not on windows
[03:37] <knightmade> HELP ME PLEASE! ldapmodify -D "cn=admin,olcDatabase={1}hdb,cn=config" -W -x -f k.ldif => ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)
[03:37] <Blue1> okay then this might help:  http://pkill-9.com/install-java-1-7-ubuntudebian-apt-get-fedora-rpm/
[03:38] <min|dvir|us> Does anyone have experience fixing locale issues?
[03:38] <_PehdeN_> stupid issue, system says The following packages have been kept back:
[03:38] <_PehdeN_>   linux-headers-generic linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server
[03:38] <_PehdeN_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[03:39] <Blue1> Lusha: this might be easier:  http://pkill-9.com/easy-way-to-install-java-runtime-enviorment-jre-in-debian/
[03:39] <Blue1> realise that is debian but prolly same for ubuntu
[03:39] <somsip> _PehdeN_: apt-get dist-upgrade if you want to install them
[03:39] <Lusha> I tried that earlier and nothing changes
[03:39] <_PehdeN_> but this is 12.04 server edition
[03:40] <_PehdeN_> lts.
[03:40] <Blue1> Lusha: tried?
[03:40] <Lusha> ya.
[03:40] <somsip> _PehdeN_: and? If you want to install them, that's how you do it. You may not want to install them.
[03:41] <din> _Pheden_: tried installing them individually?
[03:41] <Lusha> This is what i am trying
[03:41] <Lusha> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-oracle-java-runtime-jre-7-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[03:41] <_PehdeN_> no, ill just run that install.
[03:41] <_PehdeN_> id rather have the latest kernel
[03:41] <somsip> _PehdeN_: warning - yesterday someone complained that doing a dist-upgrade on their LTS server caused them problems. YMMV
[03:42] <_PehdeN_> hmm.
[03:42] <_PehdeN_> so how would i update these manually
[03:42] <Blue1> Lusha: this shows in my xubuntu system:  openjdk-7-jre  so sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre
[03:42] <somsip> _PehdeN_: that question makes no sense. Can you rephrase?
[03:43] <Lusha> I wonder if the sudo mkdir -p /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0 should be sudo mkdir -p /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.5 ?
[03:43] <Lusha> Cause its update 5?
[03:43] <din> sudo apt-get install linux-image-server maybe?
[03:43] <Blue1> Lusha: just use the sudo command I gave above.
[03:43] <Lusha> Ill try it
[03:44] <roasted> Question - is anybody good with synclient? On my laptop when I tap to select, the cursor moves a bit, making it a little wonky to use. I'm trying to find a synclient parameter that doesn't move my cursor when I tap on the touchpad. Any insight?
[03:44] <_PehdeN_> how would I try installing them individually
[03:44] <somsip> _PehdeN_: you would break something even if you found a way to do that. Use apt-get.
[03:45] <th0r> roasted, you might try MaxTapTime and MaxTapMove
[03:45] <_PehdeN_> ok
[03:45] <roasted> th0r: thanks. I'll dig them up.
[03:46] <Blue1> Lusha: did that work for you?
[03:47] <Lusha> I dunno yet
[03:47] <supertough> okay i just done formatting my usb
[03:47] <supertough> it said only read only
[03:47] <Blue1> Lusha: that hauls in a lot of information
[03:47] <supertough> why can't I add any files on here?
[03:47] <dr_willis_> supertough:  what filesystem did you format it to?
[03:47] <supertough> fat32
[03:48] <supertough> Error while copying to "8GB".
[03:48] <dr_willis_> supertough:  check the mount command and options it used. see if root can write to it..
[03:48] <James_Epp> When doing a network boot of ubuntu, I am getting 'Please provide a name for this Disc, such as 'Debian 5.0.3 Disk 1'
[03:48] <din> supertough: mount it rw. mount -o rw,remount
[03:48] <supertough> this destination is read only
[03:48] <roasted> th0r: neither seem to have much of a positive response. Do you have any other suggestions?
[03:48] <supertough> /dev/sdc
[03:48] <Blue1> supertough: this may help:  http://pkill-9.com/mount-usb-micro-sd-card-linux-automount/
[03:48] <dr_willis_> supertough:  you sure its not /dev/sdc1 ?
[03:49] <th0r> roasted, nope. Haven't done much with synclient other than turn the pad on and off. But I did capture the list of settings so I could tinker if I need to.
[03:49] <OerHeks> dr_willis +1
[03:49] <Lusha> it seems that its downloading the JDK ( at least on all ive done and checked) but I need JRE im pretty sure
[03:49] <somsip> Lusha: JRE is included in JDK IIRC
[03:49] <Lusha> Tell that to wine
[03:49] <Lusha> XD
[03:50] <roasted> th0r: I feel like there's a setting I'm missing. I was trying to dig up a man page or some sort of documentation that broke out each parameter and talked about it in greater detail. I figure then maybe something would stick out to me as being relevant to what I'm after.
[03:50] <Blue1> Lusha: that should install jre in linux but NOT windows.
[03:50] <Lusha> Im using ubuntu... thus ubuntu chat room....?
[03:50] <OerHeks> Lusha, lols java for wine, you should mention that earlier
[03:50] <yahqod> someone used sonata mpd client???
[03:50] <Blue1> Lusha: you might need the iced tea plugin as well (for linux)  icedtea-7-plugin
[03:51] <ap0c0lyps3> Anyone available for support assistance?
[03:51] <Lusha> would that give me the Thsi app needs a jre 1.5.0 bla bla bla error?
[03:51] <Blue1> Lusha: that my first though applies - fireup a browser in windows and install from there.
[03:51] <Blue1> ap0c0lyps3: may if you asked a question.....
[03:51] <Lusha> im confused on what you mean by windows?  like the panes im looking at or microsoft?
[03:52] <somsip> Lusha: are you trying to install JRE for wine apps?
[03:52] <Lusha> ya
[03:52] <Lusha> Minecraft namely
[03:52] <Blue1> Lusha: you said you needed java for wine, correct?  fire up a windows browser using wine, and install java from there .
[03:52] <somsip> Lusha: then people are probably referring to running things under wine, but saying 'in windows'. Just guessing, like
[03:52] <ap0c0lyps3> I am currently having 2 different issues, one with Networking, one with a game that I am playing... First I will ask about the networking issue
[03:52] <eph3meral> Lusha: why do you need wine for minecraft?
[03:53] <Lusha> it seems it wont open it without it and  what do you mean by windows browser???
[03:53] <ap0c0lyps3> Networking Issue - Intermittent connection drop over WiFi in a fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04
[03:53] <dr_willis_> err.. theres  some 'minecraft installer' script i saw on  eeither webupd8 or omgubuntu the other week....
[03:53] <eph3meral> the server doesn't need wine
[03:53] <Lusha> There are a few deffinitions of windows and it gets me confused
[03:53] <Blue1> ap0c0lyps3: are you using network mangler?
[03:53] <eph3meral> it's a java program
[03:53] <Lusha> i ran the w8 some thing script earlier and no luck
[03:53] <Mekaari> download the .jar
[03:53] <ap0c0lyps3> Not to my knowledge, unless it comes base with Ubuntu
[03:53] <dr_willis_> Lusha:  minecraft is written in java./  but it might want the Oracle Java..
[03:53] <Mekaari> make sure you have java
[03:53] <Lusha> Jar wont open
[03:54] <yahqod> someone used sonata mpd client???
[03:54] <eph3meral> ah yeah you need a diff java
[03:54] <Mekaari> java -jar ~/minecraft.jar
[03:54] <dr_willis_> Lusha:  and how are you trying to start the jar?
[03:54] <eph3meral> Lusha: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Setting_up_a_server#Linux_instructions
[03:54] <camilo_> hola... como accedo a la configuración de sonido?
[03:54] <dr_willis_> i thought minecradt came with a script to launch it with some options
[03:54] <Lusha> double clicking which now that i think of it is wrong isnt it
[03:54] <Blue1> !es | camilo_
[03:54] <eph3meral> Lusha: see the part labeled "Ubuntu"
[03:54] <dr_willis_> Lusha:  very very wrong
[03:54] <OerHeks> !es | camilo_
[03:54] <eph3meral> Lusha: run those first three commands
[03:54] <eph3meral> Lusha: then your minecraft should work
[03:55] <Lusha> ok can we use the private chats?  i cant keep p
[03:55] <Lusha> up*
[03:55] <eph3meral> Lusha: use your scroll wheel
[03:55] <camilo_> I need acces for configuration sound
[03:55] <yahqod> camilo en el panel
[03:55] <dr_willis_> Lusha:  i whoudl think its time to read that url eph3meral  posted ..
[03:55] <eph3meral> Lusha: colored nicknames help as well, install XChat
[03:55] <camilo_> :-)
[03:55] <Lusha> I mean i cant keep one conversation from another hold up
[03:56] <ap0c0lyps3> Blue1: Negative on the Network Mangler unless it comes base with Ubuntu
[03:56] <camilo_> I have Xfce
[03:57] <cfhowlett> !who
[03:57] <yahqod> someone used sonata???
[03:58] <shiman6_>  I've got a problem trying to forward audio from my android 4.1 phone to my lubuntu 13.04 computer via bluetooth. Could I get some help?
[03:59] <James_Epp> With this default: http://i.imgur.com/RUWDloW.png I get this result: http://i.imgur.com/5hkRUkD.png
[04:02] <lil_danger> hi
[04:02] <dr_willis_> Lusha:  its best to keep your minecraft chat in the channel.. i rarely play the game.
[04:02] <lil_danger> i need help
[04:02] <supertough> afkjdsafjdsa;l
[04:02] <supertough> can't even get my usb to write
[04:02] <ArcticLight> shiman6_: I do this by installing blueman
[04:02] <dr_willis_> Lusha:  and you may want to restart the issue from the beginning.
[04:02] <ArcticLight> shiman6_: As far as I know, ubuntu doesn't do this well without the blueman application handling it.
[04:03] <shiman6_>  Blueman is already installed with the experimental checkbox checked
[04:03] <shiman6_> I also have pulseaudio installed, and pavucontrol. it seems to connect fine, i just get no audio
[04:03] <din> supertough: mount -o rw,remount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/point
[04:04] <ArcticLight> shiman6_: Hm... Have you checked inside the sound applet? Sometimes I get that, and selecting my mic as input device and then selecting the phone stream under Ubuntu's audio controls makes it suddenly start working.
[04:04] <ap0c0lyps3> how do I use !tab?  I spoke with someone, and have received no response....  They may have stepped away though
[04:04] <ArcticLight> shiman6_: I'm not sure if that'll help in your case though.
[04:04] <somsip> !tab | ap0c0lyps3
[04:05] <supertough> that is it i'm going to just install fedora
[04:05] <eph3meral> bye
[04:05] <dr_willis_> ap0c0lyps3:  the tab key just auto completes their nickname..
[04:05] <ap0c0lyps3> Dr_willis | ubottu | somsip : Thank you all
[04:06] <shiman6_> I'll give it a shot. So, you select the mic as the input device in pavucontrol, then select the phone stream under ubuntu audio controls? Dont know where i can find that in LUbuntu
[04:06] <ap0c0lyps3> Blue1 : Seems to have stepped away, is anyone else capable of assisting me with my network connection issues over WiFi?
[04:08] <[[thufir]]> how do I get parole to play this playlist? http://pastebin.com/Du3iAbjA   I tried "open with" and selected parole without luck.
[04:09] <supertough> to just format and make my usb read/write I had to boot into win7
[04:10] <audio> ·.¸¸.·´¯`> <>,14<> hola <><>_
[04:10] <lil_danger> my function key and my z key are not working can anybody help??
[04:10] <shiman6_> Hmm. It was working before, now it isnt. I'm getting a "stream setup failed" from blueman
[04:10] <swiss> lil_danger: what's your keyboard layout
[04:11] <lil_danger> ??
[04:11] <somsip> lil_danger: type 'xev' in a terminal and see if you get output when you press the keys. No, then it's hardware. Yes, then it's something else
[04:11] <lil_danger> american
[04:11] <lil_danger> is a toshiba satellite
[04:11] <lil_danger> keyboard is clean
[04:11] <audio> ·.¸¸.·´¯`> hm _
[04:11] <swiss> lil_danger: how about in settings
[04:12] <cyrano_> I have ubuntu 12.04. I have no sound. None of my audio devices show up when i launch sound settings. However both of them show up when I run aplay -l and pretty much any other cli command that would show sound devices. Yet they still do not show up in gui sound devices and no sound. Anyone know where i can start for something like this?
[04:12] <somsip> lil_danger: if it's the same area of the keyboard, there is a chance it is hardware. I'd suggest you make sure it is not before looking for software issues.
[04:12] <swiss> cyrano_: try paplay instead of aplay
[04:12] <killer> hey
[04:13] <shiman6_> cyrano_: I had similar problems with a 9.10 installation. updating it to 13.04 fixed the problem
[04:13] <killer> hey
[04:13] <lil_danger> ok thanks
[04:13] <lil_danger> i ll check the hardware
[04:13] <killer> when i try 2 install something i get http://pastebin.com/4AgxaSaV
[04:13] <swiss> killer: apt-get remove tuxcut
[04:13] <swiss> then retry
[04:14] <cyrano_> swiss paplay fails to open audio file.
[04:14] <killer> swiss: i tried removing it but gives the same error
[04:14] <cyrano_> shiman6 this previously worked and stopped working just yesterday
[04:14] <swiss> cyrano_: paplay opens with pulseaudio rather than with alsa
[04:15] <lil_danger> it does seem to be hardware
[04:15] <swiss> you have a pulseaudio issue
[04:15] <lil_danger> thanks a lot :)
[04:15] <somsip> lil_danger: oh well. At least you didn't look for a software issue wthat wasn';t there
[04:15] <swiss> cyrano_: pastebin the output of pacmd list-sinks and pacmd list-modules
[04:15] <lil_danger> mind if i stick around see if i can learn something????
[04:15] <OerHeks> feel free, lil_danger
[04:16] <somsip> lil_danger: it's a helpful and friendly channel if you stay on topic :)
[04:16] <audio> ·.¸¸.·´¯`>  (/,14/) lol (//) _
[04:16] <cyrano_> swiss: both display this message "No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon." It's not much so I didn't pastebin this
[04:16] <lil_danger> :)
[04:16] <swiss> cyrano_: well, there's the problem :P
[04:16] <swiss> pastebin the output of "pulseaudio"
[04:17] <swiss> i'm assuming you're running this in a terminal spawned in the desktop environment
[04:17] <swiss> and not in a tty
[04:17] <cyrano_> swiss: correct
[04:17] <audio> ·.¸¸.·´¯`> test_
[04:17] <swiss> yeah, try "pulseaudio"
[04:17] <swiss> see if it gives an error
[04:18] <audio> ·.¸¸.·´¯`> 1(h2)(m)_
[04:18] <swiss> if it doesn't, spawn another termial and try paplay, then the 2 pacmds if it doesn't work
[04:18] <[[thufir]]> how do I get parole to play this playlist? http://pastebin.com/Du3iAbjA   I tried "open with" and selected parole without luck.
[04:18] <audio> ·.¸¸.·´¯`> -> test  <-.¸¸.·´¯`· By audio_
[04:18] <forgotmynick> i don't understand why `errors` isn't listed as an `option` in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[04:18] <audio> ·.¸¸.·´¯`> err_
[04:18] <cyrano_> swiss: http://pastebin.com/fj4uuszh
[04:18] <forgotmynick> it's not listed in any distros help/wiki
[04:18] <dr_willis_> audio:  is theres some point  to that? its jibberish here
[04:18] <forgotmynick> yet it's there in examples
[04:19] <swiss> cyrano_: mv ~/.pulse{,-old}
[04:19] <swiss> then try pulseaudio --start
[04:20] <swiss> forgotmynick: i have no clue O_o
[04:20] <cyrano_> swiss: there they are
[04:20] <swiss> cyrano_: ?
[04:20] <swiss> did it work?
[04:20] <swiss> or the same issue with pulseaudio?
[04:21] <cyrano_> swiss: the devices are showing up now but still no sound
[04:21] <swiss> try those three comamnds
[04:21] <cyrano_> swiss: there was no error message that time
[04:21] <cyrano_> kk
[04:21] <swiss> also, try adjusting the volume in  the systems volume control
[04:22] <forgotmynick> does the order of the options for a filesystem matter in fstab?
[04:22] <dr_willis_> forgotmynick:  i dont think it does
[04:22] <dr_willis_> i have to wonder about oppsosite options however.. ;)
[04:22] <forgotmynick> danke
[04:23] <swiss> forgotmynick: test it!
[04:23] <OerHeks> forgotmynick, i cannot find fstab errors too, those would be mount errors
[04:23] <dr_willis_> people tend to use to many options at times..
[04:23] <msow60> what
[04:23] <swiss> cyrano_: so did it work?
[04:24] <ap0c0lyps3> Anyone currently available to offer support with a WiFi connection dropping intermittently, in 12.04???
[04:24] <msow60> hi
[04:24] <cyrano_> swiss: i have sound now
[04:25] <msow60> jalcine
[04:25] <swiss> cyrano_: cool beans, it should keep working (hopefully)
[04:25] <cyrano_> swiss: thanks
[04:25] <swiss> yep yep
[04:25] <dr_willis_> ap0c0lyps3:  best bet may be to determine the chipset, and driver its using, and check askubuntu.com and the forums to see if othere have a similer issue and any knwon work arounds
[04:25] <[[thufir]]> how do I get parole to play this playlist? http://pastebin.com/Du3iAbjA   I tried "open with" and selected parole without luck.
[04:25] <eph3meral> ap0c0lyps3: wifi connections dropping intermittently is not necessarily an ubuntu problem
[04:25] <shiman6_> So, i'm trying to play music from my android 4.1 to lubuntu 13.04 via bluetooth audio. Blueman is givng me an error of "Connect failed: Stream setup failed", yet I was able to connect audio last week. (The audio never played through my speakers though)
[04:26] <swiss> [[thufir]]: i'd help you, but no experience with parole
[04:26] <eph3meral> ap0c0lyps3: I have that problem on my macbook, it depends mostly on the number of other people running wifi in your nearby vicinity (from what I can tell)
[04:26] <swiss> shiman6_: did either end update
[04:26] <eph3meral> but then again, ubuntu and wifi are notoriously fickle together
[04:26] <ap0c0lyps3> Dr_willis_, I have searched the forums and found many different issues that seem similar, but seem to find no direct answer... However, I do need to findout my chipset and driver
[04:26] <[[thufir]]> swiss: ok, thanks.  I really like parole, and am surprised it doesn't do this (properly).  can't even find a mailing list for it.  ok, well, what else is there?  gnome-mplayer?
[04:27] <shiman6_> swiss: what do you mean update? They're both paired, my android has media audio enabled and its set to automatically accept anything from lubuntu
[04:27] <swiss> shiman6_: i mean "apt-get update" or the android doing an update
[04:27] <swiss> apt-get upgrade
[04:27] <dr_willis_> bbl
[04:27] <ap0c0lyps3> eph3meral, it is not the connection itself... My Win7 Laptop, currently -right- beside my Ubuntu Desktop is currently staying connected perfectly fine
[04:27] <swiss> shiman6_: try setting verbosity flags on the ubuntu end
[04:28] <shiman6_> swiss: the android phone is running the latest unrooted from LG, and ubuntu software is up to date
[04:28] <shiman6_> swiss: okay
[04:30] <eph3meral> ap0c0lyps3: the fact that you said -right- beside is actually an indication of exactly what I just mentioned
[04:30] <eph3meral> possible signal interference with too many machines too close  in proximity
[04:30] <eph3meral> maybe not, but it's quite a real problem that I've seen quite often
[04:30] <shiman6_> swiss: how can I connect to bluetooth audio from the command line?
[04:30] <eph3meral> ap0c0lyps3: also, you get what you pay for with Ubuntu :P
[04:31] <swiss> shiman6_: what's the program that connects it?
[04:31] <swiss> stop that program, and run that program from the command line with verbosity flags
[04:31] <eph3meral> ap0c0lyps3: and unfortunately I believe wifi cards are largely suffering from similar problems to the old winmodem phenomenon
[04:31] <shiman6_> swiss: blueman, i think.
[04:31] <eph3meral> ap0c0lyps3: so, basically, expect your Ubuntu wifi to be buggy, and be very happy when it's not
[04:31] <swiss> shiman6_: is it running as a service?
[04:31] <swiss> you might have to service blueman stop
[04:31] <ap0c0lyps3> eph3meral: I had this same setup earlier this day, both of them running Win7, both of them remaining connected
[04:31] <eph3meral> ap0c0lyps3: also, this may be a perfect example of why you should research your hardware VERY thoroughly
[04:32] <swiss> shiman6_: i'm not familiar with the program, i'm just throwin you through general debugging procedures
[04:32] <ap0c0lyps3> eph3meral: The moment I install Ubuntu, connection issues start flaring up like mad
[04:32] <eph3meral> ap0c0lyps3: again, pointing back to the most recent thing I just said "expect your Ubuntu wifi to be buggy, be glad when it's not"
[04:32] <eph3meral> ap0c0lyps3: believe me or don't, I'm just the messenger
[04:32] <shiman6_> swiss: i know the bluetooth service is just called "bluetooth"
[04:32] <eph3meral> maybe one day it'll get figured out, but until corporate greed disappears, don't hold your breath
[04:32] <shiman6_> swiss: ill stop that one and restart it
[04:33] <swiss> shiman6_: basically, find the process that's failing
[04:33] <eph3meral> ap0c0lyps3: and do HEAVY HEAVY research on your wifi chip before buying it and hoping it'll work with Ubuntu
[04:33] <swiss> and start it up in your command line (in the foreground) with verbosity
[04:33] <eph3meral> I mean, that's been the case for ever since linux started
[04:33]  * swiss is lucky, he's never had issues with wifi
[04:34] <eph3meral> things are a bit better these days, but my last Win XP laptop which lasted me for like 5 years didn't start playing nice with any kind of linux until about 2 years after I bought it
[04:34] <OerHeks> !hcl
[04:34] <shiman6_> swiss: aah, i'm running bluez for bluetooth
[04:34] <eph3meral> ap0c0lyps3, it's just how things go in the linux world, which is why you must invest extra personal time to research what you buy and if you don't do that research, basically don't be surprised if you're disappointed
[04:35] <swiss> shiman6_: i'm gonna go try to find my dinner, i'll be back in a bit. keep trying to throw verbosity and debugging on the commands. Spawn as many terminals as you need to keep all the commands running in the foregroud
[04:35] <swiss> if you haven't figured it out by the time i come back, i'll help you
[04:35] <shiman6_> swiss: okay, thank you
[04:35] <camilo_> auxilio no hablo ingles y tengo problemas con el audio en ubuntu13.04 en el canal en español no me ayudan
[04:40] <vfw> !sound | camilo_
[04:41] <vfw> !es | camilo_
[04:42] <camilo_> llevo un par de horas en ubuntu-es y nada
[04:43] <swiss> shiman6_: how goes it?
[04:43] <vfw> camilo_: Inglés solamente aquí
[04:43] <shiman6_> swiss: having trouble finding out how to start the bluetooth service with verbose settings
[04:44] <camilo_> ok.... translate google
[04:44] <vfw> ok
[04:44] <swiss> shiman6_: okay, start the service, then run "ps aux"
[04:44] <swiss> and look for a bluetooth-like service
[04:44] <swiss> that's the command you'll run, but with a verbose setting
[04:44] <camilo_> I have audio problems with ubuntu 13.04
[04:45] <swiss> camilo_: what's the issue
[04:46] <camilo_> no audio
[04:46] <swiss> camilo_: run "alsamixer"
[04:47] <swiss> does that work, and if so, does it show your sound cards
[04:47] <shiman6_> swiss: ps aux says bluetoothd, but that program doesnt have a verbose switch
[04:47] <swiss> shiman6_: oh, leave that one running then
[04:47] <camilo_> as I do that?
[04:47] <swiss> what's the program that should hook the bluetooth audio into your speakers?
[04:47] <shiman6_> pulseaudio
[04:47] <swiss> camilo_: what is the output of "alsamixer"
[04:47] <shiman6_> i believe
[04:47] <swiss> shiman6_: should it show up as a direct audio device?
[04:48] <swiss> actually, i have a droid here and bluetooth, i might be able to test this
[04:48] <shiman6_> I dont think so. It was able to connect the audio service using blueman last week, when I was trying to find out why there was no sound when pavucontrol showed audio action
[04:49] <shiman6_> maybe i should reboot
[04:49] <swiss> shiman6_: stop bluetooth
[04:49] <swiss> bluetooth -d -n
[04:49] <camilo_> wait
[04:50] <swiss> shiman6_: tell me all the programs you were using to do this
[04:50] <swiss> and what the exact goal was
[04:51] <camilo_> I have Xfce
[04:51] <shiman6_> i'm using service to start and stop bluetooth, using blueman to connect to the device, pulseaudio and pavucontrol to connect to and output the a2dp stream
[04:51] <shiman6_> also, running bluetooth -d -n just gave something interesting.
[04:52] <shiman6_> swiss: D-Bus setup failed: Connection ":1.140" is not allowed to own the service "org.bluez" due to security policies in the configuration file
[04:52] <FusionX> Gparted is unable to mount my other ntfs partition and says "the enclosing drive for the volume is locked" while I'm able to mount the partitions with the "mount" command.
[04:52] <FusionX> what is the problem?
[04:52] <camilo_> alsamixer does not work on Xfce
[04:53] <swiss> shiman6_: sounds like its a configuration issue
[04:54] <shiman6_> swiss: which configuration file do i need to edit?
[04:54] <camilo_> swiss: alsamixer does not work on Xfce
[04:54] <swiss> shiman6_: i'd guess bluetoothd
[04:55] <swiss> camilo_: I don't think that's xfce: you have an alsa sisue
[04:55] <swiss> shiman6_: try apt-get purge bluetoothd then reinstalling that stuff
[04:55] <swiss> it'd be easier than figuring out the issue
[04:55] <shiman6_> okay
[04:56] <swiss> or try http://blog.stevenocchipinti.com/2012/10/bluetooth-audio-streaming-from-phone-to.html
[04:56] <ArmoredDragoon> shouldn't ubuntu automatically be able to add the realtek ethernet drivers since they are open source?
[04:56] <ArmoredDragoon> the automatic update upgraded my kernel, and now the ethernet driver doesn't work
[04:56] <ArmoredDragoon> I'm not sure what to do from here
[04:56] <ArmoredDragoon> rtl8168b
[04:57] <nevyn> !rtl8168b
[04:57] <swiss> shiman6_: this is working with no configuration from me
[04:57] <swiss> kinda cool actually
[04:57] <swiss> thanks for getting me to try it :P
[04:58] <shiman6_> swiss: i used it with windows all the time, figured ubuntu should be able to run it fine haha
[04:58] <camilo_> ok...
[04:58] <swiss> shiman6_: yeah, just worked
[04:58] <camilo_> swiss: ok
[04:58] <swiss> i was acutally impressed
[04:58] <ArmoredDragoon> !rtl8168b
[04:58] <swiss> camilo_: look into why alsa has issues: i don't have good experience at that level
[04:58] <ArmoredDragoon> no details on that
[04:58] <swiss> ArmoredDragoon: lsmod, is it not loaded?
[04:58] <shiman6_> swiss: i purged bluez and blueman, then reinstalled it, same thing happens
[04:59] <ArmoredDragoon> !rtl8168
[04:59] <swiss> shiman6_: it says the same thing?
[04:59] <LuLzSeCreBorn> im going to have a smoke but im in dyer need of help with my bot script
[05:00] <nevyn> ArmoredDragoon: it should work without firmware...
[05:00] <shiman6_> swiss: yea, i'm gonna try what you just linked me
[05:00] <swiss> shiman6_: does it have that same issue? Pastebin the issue
[05:00] <swiss> uhh, you shouldn't need to follow the tutorial cause it worked instantaneously for em
[05:01] <swiss> me
[05:01] <nevyn> ArmoredDragoon: what happens?
[05:01] <nevyn> ArmoredDragoon: that hardware has been supported forever or so.
[05:01] <camilo_> swiss: problem solved
[05:01] <shiman6_> Oh! Give me one moment, this tutorial may fix the problem
[05:01] <swiss> camilo_: cool
[05:01] <camilo_> gracias
[05:01] <swiss> shiman6_: good luck
[05:01] <swiss> camilo_: de nada
[05:02] <FusionX> how do I check the md5 checksum of a file?
[05:02] <swiss> FusionX: md5sum <file>
[05:03] <FusionX> sweet, thanks
[05:03] <FusionX> does it need root?
[05:05] <shiman6_> swiss: d-feet gives "GDBus.Error:org.bluez.Error.Failed: Stream setup failed"
[05:06] <swiss> shiman6_: huh. maybe its your phone? do you have somehting else you could test with?
[05:06] <shiman6_> swiss: I have another laptop with ubuntu, i'll give it a shot.
[05:07] <swiss> kk
[05:08] <swiss> OH
[05:08] <swiss> shiman6_: try running the bluetooth stuff as root...
[05:08] <swiss> dooo dee dooo
[05:08] <swiss> mine does the same as yours
[05:08] <swiss> i 100% forgot to tell you to root up first
[05:09] <swiss> http://i.imgur.com/mOvvOoc.png
[05:10] <shiman6_> so i'm gonna get that unless i run root
[05:11] <swiss> right
[05:11] <swiss> so run sudo -i first
[05:11] <swiss> to get an interactive root prompt
[05:11] <shiman6_> Whoa alright. This looks promising
[05:12] <shiman6_> connection!
[05:12] <swiss> awesome!
[05:12] <swiss> is it showing up as a bluetooth device in audio?
[05:12] <shiman6_> thats funny. I cant change to ad2p. it just wants to stay as none
[05:13] <shiman6_> pavucontrol confirms a connection
[05:13] <swiss> what wants to stay as none?
[05:13] <shiman6_> and the entirety of pulseaudio just crashed
[05:13] <swiss> now we can get into pulseaudio, which i'm good at :)
[05:16] <shiman6_> swiss: i sense a need to just restart the system to get pulse running again
[05:17] <swiss> shiman6_: nope
[05:17] <swiss> shiman6_: in another terminal, pulseaudio --start
[05:18] <shiman6_> Okay, pulse is back
[05:19] <swiss> now it still doesn't work, right?
[05:19] <shiman6_> when i try to play music, the phone tells the computer to set audio streaming to ad2p and it kills pulse
[05:19] <shiman6_> so, yes
[05:19] <swiss> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[05:19] <swiss> and what does pulse say?
[05:19] <swiss> rather than --start, just run pulseaudio
[05:19] <caes> hi folks.
[05:20] <shiman6_> alright. give me one moment to pastebin
[05:21] <caes> my linux newb question:  are the ports on my machine open at all?  could someone, given they had my password, log in to my machine remotely, and if so how do i lock it off?
[05:21] <shiman6_> http://pastebin.com/phVhjwgn
[05:21] <LXLE> anyone know what the windowing technology is on a mac?
[05:22] <shiman6_> the mac UI is largely proprietary
[05:22] <shiman6_> caes: if you freshly installed your system, no remote access ports are open
[05:23] <caes> thanks shiman.  second (set of) question(s):  does anyone here use MonoDevelop?
[05:24] <swiss> shiman6_: looks like it might be a known issue...
[05:24] <aeon-ltd> LXLE: what are you trying to achieve?
[05:24] <shiman6_> swiss: you know, i was hoping that wasnt it XD
[05:24] <swiss> shiman6_: yeah.... but go try on your other laptop anyways
[05:25] <shiman6_> besides, this is the first time this has happened too. Last week i was just dealing with connection, profile to a2dp was fine, just no sound
[05:25] <LXLE> aeon-ltd, i'm trying to find out what the name of the windowing system is
[05:25] <shiman6_> The other laptop's bluetooth adapter doesnt support bluetooth audio
[05:25] <aeon-ltd> LXLE: no i mean after that
[05:26] <swiss> shiman6_: it looks like it might work off of the git
[05:27] <LXLE> aeon-ltd, there is no after that
[05:27] <shiman6_> it seems like there's just no transport. is there a way to set that up? Also, is there a .deb package from the git?
[05:28] <aeon-ltd> LXLE: ok, but as a window manager it isn't very special or customizable
[05:28] <LXLE> aeon-ltd, uhm ok, but what is its name
[05:30] <aeon-ltd> LXLE: quartz supposedly http://arstechnica.com/apple/2005/04/macosx-10-4/13/
[05:30] <alecb> lxappearance seems to immediately revert back to defaults when I close out of it and reopen. anyone know why that might be happening?
[05:31] <sawjig> aeon-ltd, it's not just the 'window manager'
[05:31] <aeon-ltd> LXLE:  but getting the code to use it and modifying to work well on linux is a waste considering there are other WMs just as good or better
[05:31] <sawjig> aeon-ltd, it's also the display server
[05:32] <LXLE> aeon-ltd, i'm writing an article for god sake, put down your broken crystal ball
[05:32] <sawjig> Well it doesn't work like X so calling it the display server is not exactly correct.
[05:33] <sawjig> Regardless, it's not like X11 in Ubuntu.
[05:33] <aeon-ltd> LXLE: ok, but really if you wrote 'Mac OSX window manager' readers would know what you're talking about anyway
[05:33] <caes> would anyone know how to help me fix a bug in MonoDevelop?
[05:34] <sawjig> aeon-ltd, no, because it supports X11
[05:34] <sawjig> aeon-ltd, so you can run many window managers on OSX
[05:35] <LXLE> aeon-ltd, well considering X11 is called and X window system
[05:35] <LXLE> i figured windowing system would be enough
[05:35] <LXLE> smartass
[05:35] <LXLE> and x11 nor quartz is a window manager
[05:35] <LXLE> just like openbox isn't a windowing system
[05:36] <LXLE> its a window manager
[05:36] <LXLE> i take the smartass back
[05:36] <sawjig> Quartz is rootless...
[05:36] <sawjig> so it is both...
[05:37] <LXLE> yes, but aqua is the window manager
[05:37] <sawjig> but that's largely just a technical point of clarification it doesn't really matter in terms of your question. You can just install X and use whatever WM you can find in homebrew.
[05:37] <sawjig> No, Aqua ia a theme.
[05:38] <LXLE> sawjig, better look that up again, its not just a theme
[05:38] <aeon-ltd> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_(user_interface) underlying technology
[05:38] <shiman6_> swiss: still alive there?
[05:38] <aeon-ltd> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz_Compositor defined as a windowing system
[05:39] <LXLE> aeon-ltd,  yes windowing system
[05:39] <LXLE> not window manager
[05:40] <aeon-ltd> ok
[05:40] <sawjig> aeon-ltd, they're part of a single package for all intensive purposes.
[05:40] <aeon-ltd> intents?
[05:41] <caes> help with monodevelop?
[05:42] <aeon-ltd> fixing a bug sounds like something you should report to the developers
[05:45] <caes> it's this simple:  there's a spot in one of the options menus in the GUI...
[05:45] <caes> it should be a field, but it's a sliver... you can tell something is there.
[05:45] <caes> it's the only thing keeping me from using it to compile hello world as a test.
[05:46] <caes> I'm wondering where i'd find the code to make the field the correct size
[05:47] <clcto> !enter
[05:47] <LXLE> sawjig, for future reference aqua is the window manager and them, not quartz
[05:49] <caes> this is more to the point:  where would i find the code that monodevelop sends to g++ when i try to build?
[05:49] <swiss> shiman6_: sorry, got distracted
[05:50] <Paulos> #linuxmint
[05:50] <shiman6_> its all good
[05:50] <Paulos> whoops
[05:50] <swiss> and there's no .deb from the git
[05:52] <shiman6_> swiss: the latest pulseaudio version is 3.0, right?
[05:56] <Gotango> Ubuntu 15.10 . 3D OS ?
[05:56] <shiman6_> swiss: i found a daily build deb of 3.99 from ubuntu audio dev
[05:57] <TheBadBlood098> can anybody tell me how to search files on a channel ? thank you :)
[05:57] <clcto> on an irc channel?
[05:57] <TheBadBlood098> yes
[05:57] <Gotango> use Mirc
[05:57] <parapan> can someone please explain how to free up /boot partition ?
[05:58] <swiss> shiman6_: try it
[05:58] <swiss> parapan: delete old kernels
[05:59] <swiss> everything that isn't the biggst number is good to delete of each filetype
[05:59] <parapan> swiss: cool advice ...which are stored where ???
[05:59] <swiss> they're all in /boot
[06:00] <swiss> /boot/vmlinuz, System.map
[06:00] <swiss> etc
[06:00] <swiss> you can do it the right way by apt-get purging them
[06:00] <swiss> with apt-get purge linux-image-(version)
[06:01] <parapan> swiss: K thanks . . . if I do it with nautilus should I be fine ?
[06:01] <Ben64> no
[06:01] <swiss> sudo apt-get autoremove is the best way
[06:01] <parapan> swiss: thanks a lot
[06:01] <swiss> but if you're just trying to free up space, you can remove them manually. Nautilus run as root would let you do it
[06:01] <Ben64> bad idea
[06:02] <parapan> Ben64: could you explain some more ?
[06:02] <swiss> Ben64: semi-bad. If you don't know what you're doing, yeah, you could screw it up
[06:02] <swiss> and it's not gonna clean up the modules folders
[06:02] <Ben64> too easy to delete the wrong thing. just use the correct tools and its very easy
[06:02] <Ben64> and it doesn't update grub, might mess up future updates
[06:03]  * swiss needs to remember he's not on gentoo anymore, and there are nice tools for this thing
[06:03] <shiman6_> swiss: okay, so now this seems like the easy part.
[06:03] <swiss> shiman6_: what do you mean/
[06:04] <shiman6_> pulseaudio isnt connecting to the bluetooth audio anymore, because i just updated it
[06:04] <swiss> shiman6_: you sure?
[06:04] <swiss> pacmd list-modules
[06:05] <shiman6_> let me try restarting both services
[06:05] <wolfje> Holla
[06:06] <parapan> swiss: I have no Linux-image -version ...I have some archives with "initrd.img-2.6.32-37-generic" - are those to be purged ??
[06:07] <swiss> parapan: they should work with linux-image-2.6.32-37-generic
[06:08] <shiman6_> swiss: it's not showing up under pavucontrol anymore. I think pulse reset the module loading config and now it's not loading the right bluetooth module. it's not showing up when i run that command
[06:09] <swiss> pastebin your /etc/pulse/default.pa
[06:09] <parapan> swiss: k thanks
[06:09] <jakey1> Hi, How do I install open office in ubuntu, I downloaded it from source forge and it looks like I must compile it ?
[06:10] <Mere> hey ppl need help with install
[06:10] <Kartagis> today I upgraded my laptop to 13.04 and noticed that my alt key was not working. is this a known issue or my laptop's oddity?
[06:10] <Kartagis> gm btw
[06:10] <swiss> jakey1: is there a reason you're using openoffice over libreoffice?
[06:10] <jakey1> for variety
[06:10] <clcto> jakey1: then you will need to compile it
[06:11] <PlastikSpork> I know that you can use Samba protocol to share files on a network and this is compatible with Windows.  Does Linux have its own networking protocol?
[06:11] <clcto> jakey1: or add a repo that has it
[06:11] <jakey1> ok
[06:11] <shiman6_> swiss: http://pastebin.com/whs6XnH7
[06:11] <clcto> PlastikSpork: sshfs is one
[06:12] <PlastikSpork> clcto:  is there one installed by default in Ubuntu?
[06:12] <swiss> shiman6_: is module-bluetooth-discover loaded?
[06:12] <Kartagis> PlastikSpork: no, why?
[06:12] <boggle> UpdateManagerWarningForUnity3D when upgrading 12.04 --> 12.10 on Lenovo ideapad U410 -- http://pastebin.com/tTj6azQv
[06:12] <PlastikSpork> So Ubuntu uses SMB/CIFS by default?
[06:13] <Mere> is there a support chan??
[06:13] <Kartagis> PlastikSpork: yea
[06:13] <clcto> Mere: for ubuntu? this is it
[06:13] <Mere> yes sorry
[06:13] <shiman6_> swiss: yes, it is. but i remember seeing another module-bluetooth- something when I ran it before the update
[06:13] <Kartagis> PlastikSpork: if you're having trouble connecting to samba shares, install smbfs
[06:13] <swiss> module-bluetooth-policy?
[06:14] <shiman6_> module bluetooth policy is loaded currently
[06:14] <shiman6_> i thought it was called module-bluetooth-device
[06:14] <LuckySMack> im on raring, a new install, and i have no option to hibernate/sleep/suspend either in my os menu in the panel, or in my power options. so my only option is to completely shut the computer down. is there a way to enable sleep in 13.04?
[06:14] <PlastikSpork> Kartagis:  Interesting I did not know that...  I have installed smbfs.  I am able to connect to my windows server network drives, but I am only able to stream video if I permanently mount the drive  via fstab.
[06:15] <deckard> hello again. would someone please tell me the command to install the xubuntu package
[06:15] <Kartagis> PlastikSpork: what do you want to achieve?
[06:15] <clcto> deckard: i think it is just apt-get install xfce4
[06:15] <Kartagis> deckard: sudo apt-get install xubuntu should suffice
[06:16] <deckard> ty both, i recall the second one
[06:16] <deckard> xfce comes with it
[06:16] <Kartagis> clcto: does xfce4 install xubuntu as well?
[06:16] <clcto> deckard: yeah i guess just xfce4 wouldnt install the DM and such
[06:17] <deckard> sudo apt-get install xubuntu did not work
[06:17] <deckard> ty anyway, i will try forums
[06:17] <PlastikSpork> Kartagis:  There are a few issues that I am having with Samba... for one I am unable to browse my networking via Nautilus... I click on browse network and then windows network and it finds no shared drives... very annoying...  Also, why does the drive need to be mounted via fstab for me to be able to stream videos to my ubuntu laptop?
[06:18] <Kartagis> PlastikSpork: no idea, no experience with that
[06:18] <clcto> PlastikSpork: it needs to be mounted, but i doubt through fstab
[06:18] <deckard> how-to-geek says it is  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop (FYI)
[06:19] <clcto> deckard: thanks for the update
[06:19] <deckard> be well
[06:19] <clcto> deckard: you can always use apt-cache search
[06:19] <deckard> do you know the xubuntu channel/
[06:19] <deckard> ?
[06:20] <PlastikSpork> Kartagis: if I open nautilus and press "ctrl+L" and then type smb://serverIP I am unable to stream video, but if I mount the network drive via fstab then I am able to stream video.
[06:20] <deckard> i do not know what that is, i will read about it, ty
[06:20] <clcto> deckard: #xubuntu
[06:20] <clcto> deckard: searches for packages
[06:20] <deckard> ty
[06:23] <gorski> linux kernel upgrades even it is locked in synaptic, help?
[06:32] <swiss> shiman6_: sorry, distracted again. i think those two are the only ones till after it connects
[06:33] <shiman6_> swiss: i have both pulseaudio and bluetooth running verbose in two terminals, bluetooth doesnt seem to be talking to pulse at all
[06:33] <swiss> interesting
[06:34] <swiss> those two are the only ones i have
[06:34] <shiman6_> i read that those two modules are supposed to automatically activate the third module
[06:34] <shiman6_> which explains why I saw that module running before the update
[06:36] <cordor> what's xorg 1:7.7 version?
[06:37] <histo> cordor: huh?
[06:38] <histo> gorski: locked how?
[06:38] <histo> !pin | gorski
[06:39] <un_named92> leav
[06:39] <cordor> histo: i downgraded xorg so i can use ati legacy driver. now, i switched back to radeon driver. no so sure how to i upgrade xorg, i checked the version in synaptic, it said installed version 1:7.7+1ubuntu4
[06:40] <nyuszika7h> cordor, how did you downgrade it?
[06:40] <histo> !downgrade | cordor
[06:40] <cordor> xserver-xorg-core is 2:1.13.3-0ubuntu6 tho
[06:41] <histo> cordor: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[06:41] <nyuszika7h> did you use a PPA for downgrading Xorg?
[06:41] <cordor> nyuszika7h: don't remember, that's the problem, grab something on the web, howto here, solved thread there.
[06:41] <nyuszika7h> !ppapurge
[06:41] <nyuszika7h> !ppa-purge
[06:41] <cordor> histo: 13.04
[06:42] <histo> !info xserver-xorg-core | cordor
[06:43] <histo> cordor: see if your xorg is pinned to a certain version
[06:44] <cordor> histo: how?
[06:44] <nyuszika7h> apt-cache policy | pastebinit
[06:44] <nyuszika7h> sorry, gtg, maybe histo can help you
[06:44] <histo> cordor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[06:46] <cordor> thanks
[06:49] <vic> connecting ubuntu and windows without samba?
[06:49] <cordor> histo: not pinned
[06:49] <histo> cordor: there are multiple ways please check both
[06:50] <histo> cordor: also check your software sorces and see if any ppa's are installed
[06:50] <supertough> how do i find out my real IP address not the one given from the router
[06:50] <vic> is there an alternative to shamba share
[06:51] <histo> supertough: http://ipchicken.com
[06:51] <supertough> I want to use the command line
[06:51] <histo> supertough: w3m http://ipchicken.com
[06:51] <supertough> I did that histo
[06:51] <histo> supertough: okay then it would show you your public ip
[06:51] <supertough> what's the command line from terminal?
[06:51] <histo> vic: nfs
[06:52] <supertough> I know my local IP from ifconfig
[06:52] <histo> supertough: w3m http://ipchicken.com
[06:52] <clcto> supertough: your computer doesnt know the public IP
[06:52] <vic> histo: how do i install nfs
[06:52] <clcto> supertough: thats the job of the modem
[06:53] <cordor> histo: there was makson96/fglrx, but disabled.
[06:53] <histo> supertough: w3m is a command line based browser
[06:53] <histo> vic: What are you trying to share with?
[06:53] <apg> Does anybody know any no charge steam game?
[06:54] <vic> histo: windows
[06:54] <supertough> apg please don't try running steam on Linux
[06:54] <supertough> it is horrible experience
[06:54] <histo> vic: I would just use samba what is the issue you are experiencing?
[06:54] <supertough> my FPS drops in half when I turn on flashlight in css
[06:54] <clcto> supertough: why do you say that?
[06:54] <histo> supertough: use proper video drivers
[06:54] <apg> what is your experience with it?
[06:54] <supertough> and there is micro stuttering too
[06:54] <histo> apg: it is beta at the moment but it does work
[06:54] <vic> histo: Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:54] <vic>  samba4
[06:54] <vic> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:55] <clcto> apg cant you search by price?
[06:55] <histo> vic: what version of ubuntu?
[06:55] <supertough> it takes longer time to load up too and i'm running ubuntu on SSD
[06:55] <vic> histo: 13.04
[06:55] <clcto> apg: and try heroes of newerth, not in steam but has a linux client
[06:55] <apg> hehe, sure clcto
[06:55] <supertough> and my win7 on magnetic spin hard drive
[06:55] <histo> vic: Is there a reason you are trying samba4?
[06:56] <supertough> histo I got the latest driver from the site
[06:56] <histo> supertough: you could also use curl or wget or many other applications to pull the web page results from ipchicken.com or checkip.dyndns.org or other sites like that.
[06:56] <vic> histo: i tried samba but terminal output suggested i install samba4
[06:56] <histo> vic: I believe the samba4 package is broken
[06:56] <supertough> histo I want the command line to find out my public IP
[06:57] <supertough> I did used the site to find out my public IP
[06:57] <vic> histo: what do you suggest i do/
[06:57] <histo> vic: can you pastebin the output you are getting?
[06:57] <swiss> shiman6_: yeah, you've hit my ilmit on bluetooth expertise , sorry
[06:57] <histo> vic: also is this a desktop based system?
[06:58] <supertough> can someone link me to tutorial on how to setup a VPN server and client?
[06:59] <histo> supertough: https://help.ubuntu.com/search.html?cof=FORID%3A9&cx=003883529982892832976%3Ae2vwumte3fq&ie=UTF-8&q=vpn&sa=Search
[06:59] <vic> histo: yes
[06:59] <histo> vic: right click on a directory and sharing options
[07:00] <histo> !samba | vic
[07:01] <nabblet> hi, why are the packages linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic held back while linux-generic linux-libc-dev got updated?
[07:01] <histo> supertough: this is not an easy task to setup just fyi. You may want to look into an easier solution like untangle
[07:01] <gustav_> nabblet: You need to do dist-upgrade.
[07:01] <swiss> nabblet: reboot
[07:01] <swiss> oh, gustav_ is prob more right than me
[07:02] <supertough> histo I just want to dive in and learn how to swim
[07:02] <histo> supertough: walk before you run
[07:02] <supertough> complete noob with this VPN
[07:02] <nabblet> gustav_: swiss is that the upgrade to ubuntu 13?
[07:02] <apg> supertough: swim before you dive :D
[07:03] <histo> supertough: then play with an untangled install even on a virtual machine just to get some of the ideas of the networking behind you.
[07:03] <supertough> I can access the VPN using android phone right?
[07:03] <histo> supertough: depends on the vpn type etc...
[07:04] <supertough> i did taht VNC thing with android now I want to learn VPN
[07:05] <histo> supertough: Okay then look things up on the internet and learn no one is stopping you.
[07:05] <swiss> nabblet: idk
[07:05] <nabblet> :/
[07:05] <swiss> i don't think so, but i don't wanna say
[07:05] <nabblet> i don't what to go to 13
[07:05] <swiss> i think you need to change your sources to manually upgrade
[07:05] <swiss> but i don't wanna be responsible for an accidental upgrade
[07:05] <nabblet> it took me sooo mucht time to set up evertything as i want it in 12 :P
[07:05] <histo> !upgrade
[07:05] <nabblet> swiss: that's clear :)
[07:06] <supertough> I got a cairo Dock distro setup haha
[07:06] <supertough> no unity no gnome
[07:07] <cordor> is there a way to "reset" /etc/apt and do a apt-get upgrade
[07:07] <histo> cordor: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:08] <nabblet> supertough: cairo is nice... but it can't compete with fluxbox menu :D
[07:10] <cordor> "Best command to reset apt sources to distro release defaults? "
[07:11] <cordor> gtg, thanks again especially histo
[07:11] <histo> cordor: please post your sources.list to paste.ubuntu.com
[07:14] <histo> cordor: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[07:16] <kion> i can not get ubuntu to recognize the wireless
[07:16] <histo> kion: what chipset is your card?  you can find out from lspci
[07:18] <kion> bcm4311 802.11b/g
[07:19] <supertough> curl ifconfig.me
[07:19] <supertough> this is the command I was looking for.
[07:20] <kion> do you need anymore information?
[07:22] <mah454> Hello
[07:23] <clcto> o/
[07:23] <mah454> /etc/shadow is sha-512 or sha-256 ?
[07:28] <Enlight_uni> hi, i encounter a weird thing for quite some time with ubuntu 12.04, i still can connect to the internet but all my equipments (tv, phone, ...) fail to connect to my running servers (mpd, httpd, meiatomb, ...) any idea of what could be happening to me?
[07:30] <Kartagis> why is sudo apt-get purge xen* attemtping to remove clementine and cairo-dock? those are very irrelevant
[07:32] <fps> oh wow, managed to repair grub with boot-repair..
[07:33] <fps> now ubuntu 13.04 actually boots, yay..
[07:33] <fps> only to fail miserably at the login screen (keyboard and mouse not working. once the network manager says that i'm not connected (i am) the box completely freezes (cursor stops blinking))
[07:34] <fps> i'll try chrooting into it and updating the system packages..
[07:36] <fps> hmm, networking doesn't work in the chroot
[07:38] <fps> ah, just missing resolv.conf
[07:39] <histo> !broadcom | kion
[07:46] <andrewh> are apparmor and selinux are mutually exclusive features? ie. if i create a kernel without selinux i can choose to use apparmor only.
[07:48] <Joanet> hi all. Does anyone know the full rdesktop flags for experience? I want to get modem experience + desktop wallpaper, but I cannot get the "modem experience" hex values (including reading constants.h from rdesktop source...)
[07:49] <kaushal> Hi
[07:49] <kaushal> is there a way to focus Pidgin IM Conversation Window on raring running unity desktop shell?
[07:49] <histo> kaushal: alt+tab
[07:50] <kaushal> histo: i do that already
[07:50] <kaushal> histo: but i look at it after some time and in a way i miss important converstion
[07:50] <kaushal> histo: can i steal focus?
[07:51] <histo> kaushal: IDK look in pidgin's options
[07:52] <matachi> anybody with launchpad experience, where can I find the file referenced in #68 on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/935778 ?
[07:55] <FreeBSD64> andrewh: they should have boot options
[07:55] <FreeBSD64> unless they are set in the kernel to on by default
[08:02] <starbuck> hi, how can i do a proper backup? let's say my hd breaks, is it possible to buy a new one and restore the system exactly like it was with a backup?
[08:03] <adeebnqo> I'm having issues connecting to a irc server behind a firewall. Im tryna connect using Konversation, the only errors it's giving me are http://pastebay.net/1232239
[08:03] <adeebnqo> some please help
[08:05] <somsip> !proxy | adeebnqo
[08:05] <somsip> adeebnqo: ah - that was not what I thought it woudl say
[08:05] <nag> trying to share wifi internet over lan
[08:06] <Seihava> does anyone know how to reset the AMD Catalyst super user password?
[08:06] <nag> bridging in wlan and eth fails
[08:07] <adeebnqo> lemme try doing that!
[08:08] <adeebnqo> wait -- wouldnt !tor require me to use a web client?
[08:13] <voi> im trying to install 13.04 desktop using a bootable usb. on install it says it cant find any OS being currently installed on the HDD and suggests to format the HDD and isntall ubuntu on it, when i click on Something Else it wont find any partitions
[08:14] <voi> hmm i just realized i might have had sdb instead of sda selected, hold on
[08:15] <voi> this is my fdisk http://pastebin.com/LWkM8ZBp however the 13.04 installer wont detect any partitions on sda
[08:17] <suigeneris> hi
[08:17] <suigeneris> I need urgent help
[08:18] <suigeneris> I did sudo apt-get purge xen* and a bunch of stuff was removed
[08:18] <suigeneris> now my ubuntu is unbootable
[08:18] <histo> voi: there are partitions there
[08:19] <voi> histo: i know, i have this problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/288999/ubuntu-13-04-not-detecting-windows-7-during-install
[08:19] <luke_> morning
[08:19] <histo> voi: is it a gpt partitioned disk?
[08:19] <matachi> suigeneris, does it boot into a terminal?
[08:20] <suigeneris> matachi: nope
[08:20] <histo> voi: parted -l /dev/sda
[08:20] <suigeneris> matachi: I don't even get grub
[08:20] <voi> histo: what does that do? i got no output
[08:21] <histo> voi: parted -l /dev/sda  should list the partitions and the table type on /dev/sda  just like fdisk -l
[08:21] <voi> sudo parted -l /dev/sda Error: Invalid partition table on /dev/sda -- wrong signature 0.
[08:21] <histo> voi: there's your problem
[08:21] <voi> histo: i installed win7, then 10.04, then somehow managed to reinstall win7 without destroying the ubuntu boot loader or so it seemed
[08:22] <histo> voi: well your parition table is a little fubared
[08:22] <voi> histo: so i need a new partition table?
[08:22] <histo> voi: dpeends on what you want to do
[08:23] <voi> histo: keep stuff as it is and install 13.04 a new 25GB partition id have to create
[08:24] <histo> voi: hold up let me check your fdisk output
[08:26] <Jordan_U_> voi: fixparts should be able to repair your partition table.
[08:27] <voi> aye
[08:28] <histo> voi: yes try fixparts
[08:28] <voi> im currently 13.04 booted form a usb stick, not sure if i can get fixparts here
[08:31] <platzhirsch> Any idea why >>  find . -name '*_720*' -type d -exec mv {} /test/ \; << is not working?
[08:31] <voi> ok, wont work, i have another idea but also another problem, i updated 10.04 to 12.04 but internet wont work on 12.04 ie i cant connect per wireless
[08:31] <swiss> platzhirsch: escape the curly braces
[08:31] <shiman6> swiss: I'm back. So, i have absolutely no idea what I did, but it's working perfectly now
[08:31] <swiss> shiman6: awesome!
[08:32] <swiss> lol
[08:32] <platzhirsch> swiss with \ or with quotes ?
[08:32] <swiss> platzhirsch: \ will work
[08:32] <swiss> \{\}
[08:32] <swiss> or '{}
[08:32] <swiss> err
[08:32] <swiss> '{}'
[08:32] <Jordan_U_> platzhirsch: Either will work, but IMHO quotes are more readable.
[08:32] <FloodBot1> swiss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:32] <shiman6> swiss: i was in the middle of looking through my search history to see what I did, and it just decided that it wanted to work
[08:32] <swiss> shiman6: did you reboot or something?
[08:33] <suigeneris> swiss: he shouldn't have to escape
[08:33] <shiman6> Rebooting fixed the bluetooth not wanting to connect to dbus problem
[08:33] <shiman6> but technically, yes
[08:33] <swiss> suigeneris: read the manpage, it specifically says you probably have to
[08:33] <shiman6> i think the answer here was patience
[08:33] <jony_easyrider> how can I switch the ALT+TAB keyboard shortcut with something else?
[08:33] <swiss> i know cause i looked at it 10 mins ago for myself
[08:33] <swiss> shiman6: well, at least it works
[08:33] <swiss> jony_easyrider: unity-tweak-tool
[08:34] <shiman6> yup! Thanks for your help! updating pulseaudio did the trick
[08:34] <swiss> make sure to switch back to the standard pulse when it gets newer than the testing version you installed
[08:35] <shiman6> will do
[08:36] <suigeneris> I did sudo apt-get purge xen* and a bunch of stuff was removed, now my ubuntu is unbootable. will upgrading to 13.04 will bring back the supposedly removed system stuff?
[08:36] <histo> voi: what is your wireless chipset?
[08:36] <voi> whats the shell cmd for that
[08:37] <voi> ifconfig_
[08:37] <voi> ?
[08:37] <swiss> suigeneris: what flavor of ubuntu
[08:37] <histo> voi: lspci
[08:37] <swiss> suigeneris: standard, server, etc
[08:38] <histo> suigeneris: Can you describe unbootable what happens?
[08:38] <voi> histo: http://pastebin.com/VYP9gHYn
[08:38] <swiss> also, how will you upgrade without booting? livecd?
[08:39] <suigeneris> histo: stops at boot time
[08:39] <suigeneris> swiss: desktop
[08:39] <histo> voi: that's odd should work.
[08:39] <histo> suigeneris: is there any error or just a black screen etc...??
[08:39] <histo> ffs
[08:40] <voi> histo: it finds the modems and asks for password but wont stop trying to connect
[08:40] <suigeneris> histo: there are a few lines but that's all
[08:40] <voi> it doesnt hang it just wont succeed to connect
[08:41] <histo> suigeneris: Would you mind enlightening us on what the few lines are or do we have to keep playing 20 questions
[08:41] <histo> voi: make sure you are using the proper pass
[08:41] <shiman6> Is there an ubuntu app to control a bluetooth playback device like an android phone, in the way that windows media player does this?
[08:41] <vsMS> I have a problem while trying to install grub2 on an md0 based LVM. I get  grub-setup:error: unable to identify a filesystem in hd1; safety check can't be performed. Can someone help me?
[08:42] <suigeneris> histo: starting web server, and another line about the kernel which I don't remember
[08:42] <histo> suigeneris: well if you don't remember no one is going to be able to help you out.
[08:42] <swiss> suigeneris: can you boot somehow
[08:43] <histo> suigeneris: My best guess is that you removed your kernel or something goofy when you removed the xen* stuff
[08:43] <suigeneris> swiss: I now booted to liveusb and chose the option to upgrade to 13.04
[08:43] <swiss> suigeneris: good luck
[08:43] <histo> oh boy
[08:43] <suigeneris> thanks
[08:43] <suigeneris> histo: what?
[08:46] <histo> suigeneris: the upgrade most likely isn't going to install the mystical package you are missing
[08:47] <Seihava> does anyone know how to reset the AMD Catalyst super user password?
[08:48] <swiss> histo: think it'd work if he chrooted in and ran a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:49] <Voi> histo: i get "device not ready (firmware missing)" in 12.04 ie wireless connection not working at all
[08:49] <Voi> it worked all fine on 10.04 ie before the upgrade
[08:49] <histo> Voi: use the system settings > additional drivers
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> Voi: what wifi chip?
[08:50] <histo> ActionParsnip: an intel 1000n or something let me find his paste again
[08:51] <histo> ActionParsnip: Intel Centrino Wireless-N 1000 card [Condor Peak]
[08:51] <cheshair> Hi! Anybody here has a dell xps 13 developer edition? Any problems in using a usb-eth adapter to use a wired lan connection?
[08:51] <platzhirsch> swiss: the problem was actually that I needed to do -execdir because -f was set to d(irectory)
[08:52] <Voi> histo:  wtf -.- i restarted 12.04 and now internet is working <,<
[08:52] <MonkeyDust> cheshair  rephrased: you have lan-isues on your dell xps 13, right?
[08:53] <suigeneris> platzhirsch: you didn't need to do -execdir.
[08:53] <cheshair> MonkeyDust: not exactly, i am interested in a dell xps 13 but won't always have a wireless connection
[08:53] <Voi> well, no its not working, it shows that it connected though
[08:53] <histo> Voi: does rfkill list   shwo that it's blocked?
[08:54] <cheshair> MonkeyDust: so i am asking if anyone with that laptop has had problems in making it to work with a eth-usb adapter
[08:54] <Voi> histo: 0: phy0: whireless LAN soft blocked: no hard blocked: no
[08:55] <cheshair> MonkeyDust: i guess it works but need some stronger confirmation before purchasing
[08:55] <Voi> histo: system settings > additional drivers shows me nothing
[08:55] <Voi> well, i just tried to reconnect and its not working..
[08:56] <histo> Voi: are you using the built in wireless or a dongle?
[08:56] <histo> Voi: liek a usb dongle
[08:56] <Voi> built in
[08:56] <histo> Voi: that's odd that card should work out of the box
[08:57] <platzhirsch> suigeneris: well I got an error otherwise
[08:57] <MonkeyDust> cheshair  ethernet is safer, faster and more stable than wifi
[08:57] <histo> Voi: dpkg -l | grep firmware
[08:57] <cheshair> MonkeyDust: i agree, that's why i am asking
[08:58] <histo> !hcl | cheshair
[08:58] <Voi> histo: ii linux-firmware   1.79.4 Firmware for Linux kernel drivers
[08:58] <Alina-malina> Hello all! Is there any mail caching server. For example the office has a very low  internet connection, but the workers sending e-mails so e-mails go very slow and the most of the time workers have to wait for the process rather then typing e-mails. How it is possible to make work with yahoo, gmal and other e-mail services? So the workers submit their e-mails to that server, and server during 5-6 hours login to their accounts and send
[08:58] <Alina-malina> those messages?
[08:58] <cheshair> histo: that helps, thank you very much!
[08:59] <MonkeyDust> Alina-malina  try the channel #ubuntu-server
[09:00] <Kartagis> swiss, histo: I'm the guy with the unbootable ubuntu. all is okay now
[09:00] <Kartagis> heh
[09:00] <Kartagis> thanks anyway
[09:01] <Voi> im considering getting some windows program that could fix my partition table similar to fixpart
[09:03] <Voi> histo: what was the command again you told me to type where i got some 0 something output where you said my partition table is fubar?
[09:04] <auronandace> Voi: your partition table has absolutely no bearing on whether or not a driver would work
[09:04] <Voi> auronandace: idc if my 12.04 driver works, im going to install 13.04 over it, but i cant install 13.04 because my partition table is fubar and the installer wont recognize any os or partitions on my HDD :)
[09:05] <histo> Voi: parted -l /dev/sda
[09:05] <Voi> histo: thanks
[09:06] <Voi> but since i cant get fixpart on either my USB 13.04 live cd nor my 12.04 cus of lack of internet connection.. im trapped
[09:06] <histo> Voi: do you have a wire you can use temporarily to fix?
[09:06] <histo> !offline | Voi if no Wire
[09:07] <Alina-malina> MonkeyDust, noone there it seems to be hybernated
[09:14] <Voi> wow
[09:15] <histo> Voi: ?
[09:15] <Voi> i did fdisk then p then w getting "The partition table has been altered!" then rebooted my live cd and it now detects all partitions/OS :)
[09:15] <Voi> isnt that odd?
[09:15] <Voi> ;D
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Voi: i'd make sure your backups are up to date, then reinstall fresh
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Voi: doesn't sound stable
[09:16] <Voi> ActionParsnip:  im going to install 13.04 from the live cd and then get fixpart and use that to fix my partition table, does that sound good?
[09:17] <Voi> i dont know what else i could do
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> Voi: i'd wipe the artition table and remake fresh, install from a blank drive
[09:18] <Voi> ActionParsnip: not sure i understand, you want me to wipe my entire HDD?
[09:20] <Jorky> Hello guys.One question.How to convert multiple audio files at the same time using ffmpeg (from mp3 to 128k wma)? Thnx.
[09:21] <joe1234> good day... does anyone know the m/monit tool ... and has some experience with CPU usage from this script itself ... is it normal that it takes a lot of CPU when it runs throught ?
[09:22] <fjalle> Hello everybody .. i upgraded my system to ubuntu 13.04 .. i have a 460GTX running .. whenever i install the driver i cant see the tempeture on the Graphic card.. but if i remove the driver they appear just fine
[09:22] <fjalle> also the fan spins up right ater boot up
[09:22] <fjalle> anyone knows why ?
[09:23] <histo> Voi: because it put the signature in the end of the mbr probably
[09:24] <histo> Voi: dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 skip=0 count=1 | xxd
[09:24] <histo> Voi: does it end with 0x55AA
[09:24] <Jorky> How to convert multiple audio files at the same time using ffmpeg (from mp3 to 128k wma)? Thnx.
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> Voi: yes, I would. You choice :)
[09:26] <Voi> i cant <,<
[09:27] <fjalle> No one knows anything about the 460GTX and 13.04 ?
[09:27] <Voi> ActionParsnip: you say that because i mentioned having windows7 there dont you? :P
[09:27] <histo> Voi: Please run dd if=/dev/sda count=1 | xxd  please and tell me if the last line ends with 55aa
[09:27] <Voi> histo: i started the 13.04 install 2 minutes ago :(
[09:27] <papungag> hi
[09:28] <histo> Voi: So open a terminal
[09:29] <Voi> during install? how
[09:29] <histo> Voi: ctrl+alt+F2
[09:31] <Voi> please stand by while im trying to find a = on an english keyboard
[09:31] <histo> huh?
[09:31] <fjalle> " * "
[09:31] <Voi> german keyboard but english mapping
[09:31] <fjalle> voi trying using the " * "
[09:31] <histo> Voi: ahh
[09:31] <histo> Voi: also ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to installer
[09:32] <MickS> Voi: left of the backspace?
[09:32] <Voi> ok found it
[09:32] <Voi> histo:  ends with 55aa
[09:32] <histo> Voi: signature is good now
[09:33] <nabblet> hi, how can i permanently set my wifi contry code? i use a swiss laptop, wich i set up for swiss regdomain - now i am in germany and have trouble with the reg domain (disconnect, reconnect, and so on)
[09:33] <Voi> histo: im not sure what all that stuff means... but.. reading alone the lines: missing operations system.... random signs ... multiple active partitions ... random signs ...operating system load error ... random signs
[09:33] <Voi> ok great. the installer is stuck at "getting the time from a network time server..."
[09:34] <histo> Voi: yeah well all you are concerned about now is the signature 55aa since that was your error
[09:34] <histo> Voi: the first 446 bytes are the boot code the rest are allocated to the partion table etc...
[09:35] <Voi> the installer gives me a fwrite() failed: no space left on device error nonstop.. installation wont work
[09:36] <Voi> low disc space, this computer has only 692.2 kB disk scare remaining hah
[09:36] <histo> lol
[09:36] <histo> Voi: what did you install to?
[09:36] <fjalle> Hello everybody .. i upgraded my system to ubuntu 13.04 .. i have a 460GTX running .. whenever i install the driver i cant see the tempeture on the Graphic card.. but if i remove the driver they appear just fine
[09:36] <fjalle> also the fan spins up right ater boot up
[09:37] <histo> fjalle: ask nvidia
[09:37] <Voi> histo: a new 30GB ext4 partition on my HDD i created, theoretically..
[09:38] <fjalle> histo, so no one experienced this before? >.<
[09:38] <nabblet> hi, how can i permanently change the regulatory domain of my wifi?
[09:39] <histo> Voi: I would double check that.
[09:40] <Voi> histo: i get ubi-partman crashed with exipt code 10 in the installer, what does that mean?
[09:40] <Voi> and the low disc space error shows up quite right after starting the installer..
[09:41] <Voi> ubi-timezone crashed..
[09:41] <Voi> ubi-console-setup crashed =D
[09:41] <nabblet> hi, where is the wpa_supplicant.conf file?
[09:43] <llutz> nabblet: "sudo apt-get install crda" then change REGDOMAIN=xx in /etc/default/crda
[09:44] <histo> nabblet: usually the user creates it.  but you can check in /etc
[09:45] <histo> nabblet: you can also locate wpa_supplicant.conf
[09:45] <nabblet> histo: hm, i have no wpa_supplicant.conf - never created one though. i was asking about it, becuase i have trouble with reg domain of my wiki and wpa_supplicant may handle it according to this link i found in ubuntu forum http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/iw#Updating_your_regulatory_domain - but i wiill go with histo's advice first
[09:46] <ruhha_> d
[09:47] <arsene> i installed dconf-editor but i cant see anything when is open (xubuntu 13.04) please help me!
[09:47] <christopher> hello?
[09:48] <histo> hola?
[09:48] <christopher> hello?
[09:48] <nabblet> histo: oh, sorry nick-confusion :P i think i will go with llutz suggestion and fall back to wpa_supplicant solution if that does not work
[09:49] <christopher> its ok i got tired of vista
[09:50] <Kartagis> how do I use the ppa over system repo, in order to update a package?
[09:50] <nabblet> llutz: hm, my crda file says REGDOMAIN=    nothing entered
[09:50] <Freeder> Hi, how do I restart an nfs client? etc/init.d/nfs.client seems to no longer be an option
[09:51] <histo> Kartagis: does the ppa have a newer version?
[09:51] <Kartagis> histo: yes
[09:51] <llutz> nabblet: well, so put in whatever value you need
[09:51] <histo> Kartagis: then if you have the ppa enabled it should pull the newer version
[09:51] <nabblet> llutz: maybe the swiss-settings are more compatible or something else is interfering... anyway, i'll set in DE an see what happens after reboot
[09:52] <nabblet> llutz: histo thank you two for your valuable input! i found several hints on crda, wpa_supplicant and all that on the web but was not able to make nails with heads of it
[09:52] <Kartagis> histo: I did a apt-get update then apt-cache show <package> and it was showing me the version I have installed
[09:52] <nabblet> llutz: histo i'll report back the result - brbr
[09:52] <histo> Kartagis: perhaps the ppa's version number is off then.
[09:52] <nabblet> *brb
[09:53] <histo> !pin | Kartagis
[09:53] <histo> Freeder: service blah restart
[09:53] <Freeder> histo: the 'blah' part is what i'm asking
[09:54] <Freeder> nfs doesnt exist there now
[09:54] <Freeder> nfs nor nfs-common as it once was
[09:54] <llutz> Freeder: check /etc/init   is it an upstart-job now? then "sudo restart blah"
[09:54] <Freeder> no
[09:54] <phimic> hi all can someone help me with that dependency problem http://pastie.org/7915275
[09:55] <histo> Freeder: I don't believe the clients runa  daemon
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> !details | phimic
[09:56] <histo> phimic: dpkg-reconfigure -a
[09:57] <Kartagis> histo: isn't this for keeping a specific package?
[09:57] <histo> Kartagis: or selecting one version over another yes
[10:01] <lovethecode> !udev
[10:02] <lovethecode> Ubottu what is udev?
[10:02] <clcto> !fail
[10:02] <shafox> i have a compaq intel centrino technology 700mb ram, 1.7 ghz, 40gb hdd. Can I install 12.04 version ?? will it perform as usual or it will lag a lot ??
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> shafox  try lubuntu, it's for low specs
[10:03] <phimic> histo: same problem apt says to do a apt-get install -f but results in same dependency error
[10:03] <Senor> R where can I get the distro's source code ? include login relevent programes .
[10:03] <clcto> shafox: try archlinux
[10:03] <shafox> MonkeyDust:lubuntu same as ubuntu??
[10:03] <shafox> clcto: not so prompt at cli
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> shafox  yes, with a different look and feel
[10:04] <clcto> shafox: that doenst make sense
[10:04] <shafox> clcto: it is something for more advanced users i guess. and i dont think i am in that league
[10:04] <clcto> shafox: if you can read man pages and wikis you can do it
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> shafox  if you would even *want* to read wiki's and man pages ;)
[10:06] <clcto> :) learning is fun
[10:06] <dr_willis> read? like reading the docs?  what is this.. 1980¿
[10:06] <fjalle> Hello everybody .. i upgraded my system to ubuntu 13.04 .. i have a 460GTX running .. whenever i install the driver i cant see the tempeture on the Graphic card.. but if i remove the driver they appear just fine
[10:06] <dr_willis> :)
[10:06] <Kartagis> heh, ubuntu installs libudev1 but google-chrome-stable requires libudev0 and doesn't install
[10:06] <fjalle> also the fan spins up right ater boot up
[10:06] <gustav_> dr_willis: Get the book.
[10:07] <dr_willis> book? thats like on paper? :)
[10:07] <gustav_> Yeah! With pages!
[10:08] <gustav_> pgup pgdn
[10:08] <shafox> will do ,  but for loq specs i need a gui also so i was thinking of ubuntu, will try lubuntu or xubuntu ??? which one  is better?
[10:08] <clcto> is crunchbang still around
[10:08] <llutz> dr_willis: epaper nowadays, more fun
[10:08] <dr_willis> shafox:  try them all. use what you like
[10:08] <shafox> clcto: yeah tried that bt it hangs a lot
[10:08] <dr_willis> i want an epaper pc monitor.
[10:09] <clcto> dr_willis: ew
[10:09] <llutz> dr_willis: you don't, way too slow
[10:09] <b2w> any interface designer that supports running terminal commands.....
[10:09] <dr_willis> for my pi. it would be fine
[10:09] <llutz> dr_willis: http://hackaday.com/2012/09/11/using-a-raspberry-pi-as-your-travel-computer/
[10:09] <gustav_> dr_willis: Yeah, that would be cool.
[10:10] <clcto> b2w: what?
[10:10] <dr_willis> b2w used to be some  front end builder tools in the repos.  not looked at them in years
[10:11] <dr_willis> bbl.
[10:11] <Kartagis> tab key isn't working. how come?
[10:11] <clcto> Kartagis: where?
[10:11] <b2w> i need to design an interface that supports running terminal commands using command buttons
[10:11] <b2w> clcto: i need to design an interface that supports running terminal commands using command buttons
[10:11] <Kartagis> clcto: anywhere
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> b2w  a GUI? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[10:12] <Kartagis> clcto: alt tab is working, but tab key is not
[10:12] <Kartagis> confirmed that
[10:12] <b2w> \join #ubuntu-app-devel
[10:12] <nabblet> histo: and the other guy... looks better. at boot there are several reconfigurations (i think cause by the eeporm setting - and it takes time until crda kicks in maybe) - but it seems like after the boot-hickups it's ok *knocking on wood*
[10:13] <Kartagis> but xev is giving output for both
[10:13] <nabblet> llutz: looks better. at boot there are several reconfigurations (i think cause by the eeporm setting - and it takes time until crda kicks in maybe) - but it seems like after the boot-hickups it's ok *knocking on wood*
[10:19] <str> Hi!
[10:19] <clcto>  o/
[10:20] <str> I'm having problems with a clean firefox profile. Everytime I want to right click -> save image..  firefox freezes
[10:20] <str> I'm using 13.04, with all updates, and firefox 21.0,  anyone having the same problem?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> str: are other browser the same?
[10:21] <str> ActionParsnip, negative
[10:22] <str> I thought it was a plugin, so I created a new firefox profile
[10:22] <str> disabled all addons, but nothing
[10:22] <clcto> str: when did it start
[10:22] <str> It didn't happened when I was using 12.04, it started after I did a clean 13.04 installation
[10:23] <phimic> anybody can help me with a dep problem "Depends: linux-image-virtual (= 3.2.0.41.49) but 3.2.0.43.51 is to be installed"
[10:24] <clcto> phimic: what are you trying to install?
[10:24] <gustav_> phimic: Press return.
[10:25] <phimic> clcto: just want to install a package but i cant, apt-get install -f result in the same error
[10:25] <smoke> whats my best option for text editors in desktop env? right now im using vim heh
[10:25] <smoke> i need a bigger window
[10:26] <clcto> smoke: you got it
[10:26] <clcto> smoke: make terminal bigger
[10:26] <smoke> oh
[10:26] <smoke> hmm i guess im dumb
[10:27] <clcto> smoke: or gvim if you really really need to use a menu system
[10:28] <Senor> how canI config my source apt-get  mirror   ?
[10:28] <gordonjcp> smoke: gedit
[10:29] <cfhowlett> Senor, system>update manager>settings
[10:29] <jony_easyrider> can I set my ubuntu server to automatically restart daily at a specific time?
[10:29] <HexKey> Hello, I just attempted to install ubuntu server 12.04 from usb, in the Detect and mount CD-ROM step it failes because the cd is not in the cd drive, but i am booting from usb..
[10:29] <clcto> gordonjcp: that is non-sense
[10:29] <clcto> jony_easyrider: cron
[10:29] <vnc786> i am using gigabyte ga-e350n motherboard running ubuntu 12.04 processor amd dual core issue is i am not able to retrieve MB serial number i have try all the all which is use to get serial number Serial Number: <blank>
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> smoke: are there options you can give vim to set size?
[10:30] <HexKey> I cannot see a way to fix this in the menu to point it to the usb from which it has already started booting..
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> jony_easyrider  use a cron job : sudo shutdown -r now
[10:30] <llutz> jony_easyrider: sure, create a cronjob running "/sbin/reboot"
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> jony_easyrider: restart a Linux server....weird
[10:30] <clcto> ActionParsnip: it is the size of terminal
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> clcto: gotcha
[10:31] <clcto> ActionParsnip: have you not use vim? lame
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> clcto: no I use vi :D
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> clcto: not vim for noobs ;P
[10:31] <clcto> ActionParsnip: yeah i love a featureless editor
[10:32] <clcto> ActionParsnip: and im pretty sure vi links to vim in ubuntu
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> clcto: i know my text editor skills will work on ANY nix box, not relying on features which may not be present
[10:32] <HexKey> To clarify the usb was created under windows with linux live usb creator as suggested by the ubuntu docs
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> smoke: make an alias to launch a gnome terminal with set size and run vim in it
[10:32] <Kartagis> my tab key is not working on 13.04. any ideas?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> HexKey: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: tried in xterm ?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: does it make events in xev
[10:33] <HexKey> no how do i do that ActionParsnip  in usb creator?
[10:33] <clcto> Kartagis: yeah
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | HexKey
[10:33] <clcto> ActionParsnip: yes it does for Kartagis
[10:34] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: tab key produces 23 and alt 38
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: does it work in any application at all?
[10:35] <hulu> helo
[10:35] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: nope
[10:35] <clcto> ActionParsnip: what does which vi give you?
[10:35] <cfhowlett> hulu, greetings
[10:35] <hulu> i'm editing the /usr/lib/user-setup/user-setup-apply
[10:36] <clcto> !enter
[10:36] <llutz> clcto: more:    readlink -f $(which vi)
[10:36] <clcto> llutz: ty
[10:36] <hulu> how to change the $log $chroot $ROOT useradd -c "$RET" -m "$USER" $UIDOPT >/dev/null || true to copy /etc/skel
[10:37] <brainysmurf> when i do apt-get install php5-auth-pam it says this: http://pastebin.com/pDasCrxU
[10:37] <clcto> llutz: what does that give you?
[10:38] <llutz> clcto: i'm not on ubuntu (vim.basic)
[10:38] <dirkounet> hello
[10:38] <clcto> llutz: lol me either
[10:38] <dirkounet> I do have a problem running my bluetooth speaker
[10:38] <dirkounet> it's paired correctly, but there is no way to get sound out of it
[10:38] <brainysmurf> I really nned to install php5-auth-pam but can't figure out what that message is actually saying
[10:39] <dirkounet> always receive the message  [pulseaudio] module-bluetooth-device.c: Profile has no transport
[10:39] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: oh, it works on ff
[10:39] <Kartagis> Firefox
[10:39] <dirkounet> i am on ubuntu 13.04
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> !enter | dirkounet
[10:39] <clcto> Kartagis: so what doesnt it work with
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> clcto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5670348
[10:39] <Kartagis> clcto: console
[10:39] <Senor> how canI config my source apt-get  mirror   ?
[10:39] <Senor> how can I config my source apt-get  mirror   ?
[10:40] <Kartagis> clcto: switching applications
[10:40] <tagliente> ciao
[10:40] <clcto> Kartagis: what shell
[10:40] <Kartagis> bash
[10:40] <dirkounet> anyone an idea?
[10:40] <clcto> ActionParsnip: ls -l /usr/bin/vi
[10:40] <tagliente> ciao
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> clcto: I look after some SunOS boxes, vi is also standard installed there, as it is in Debian. So I keep me text editor the same. Makes sense, right?
[10:41] <tagliente> !list
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> clcto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5670350
[10:42] <clcto> ActionParsnip: i mean sure, but vim is much better
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> clcto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5670352
[10:42] <tagliente> !list
[10:42] <llutz> there is no real vi in most of the linux-distros since years, always just symlinks to vim
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> clcto: maybe but why add confusion when I can use the same editor on all OSes I come across. Doesn't make sense imho
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> llutz: doesn't seem to be in my case, or in Solaris :)
[10:44] <llutz> ActionParsnip: have you even read your own pasts? your "vi" links to alternatives/vi which is a link to vim.tiny
[10:44] <llutz> ActionParsnip: and Solaris is hardly a "linux-distro"
[10:45] <llutz> ActionParsnip: but you are still right, using vi will bring least hassle since you find something working like it nearly everywhere
[10:53] <megga> is er iemand uit Nederland?
[10:55] <DJones> !nl | megamanx1978
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> llutz: thats why I use it :). Takes a bit of getting used to but its badass
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> llutz: a far cry from my nano days :)
[10:57] <jony_easyrider> can I set my ubuntu server to automatically restart daily at a specific time?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> jony_easyrider: sure, use cron
[10:57] <llutz> jony_easyrider: sure, create a cronjob running "/sbin/reboot"
[10:58] <jony_easyrider> ty
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> jony_easyrider: export EDITOR=vi; sudo crontab -e
[10:58] <Dr_willis> and be sure grub is defaulting to whatever os it is you are wanting to reboot to.. (dare we ask WHY you need a server to reboot daily?)
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: was thinking taht
[10:58] <joker_> hey guys, anyone knows how to fix a weird graphical corruption when I log in the first time?
[10:59] <cfhowlett> joker_, what kind of corruption?
[10:59] <joker_> sec, i'll upload an image
[10:59] <joker_> lots of huge pixels in random colors
[10:59] <Dr_willis> and if you log/back in it works properly joker_ ?
[11:00] <joker_> well
[11:00] <clcto> jony_easyrider: how many people have to say cron before you understand
[11:00] <joker_> it goes away when everything is loaded
[11:00] <joker_> and with a second login there's none
[11:00] <shmoon> ok so, i am noob at this but, when i put my usb into ubuntu computer and see $ mount it says usb FS is vfat, maybe i want ext3/4 - how can i change ?
[11:01] <peestop> \
[11:01] <clcto> shmoon: you have to format the drive
[11:01] <Dr_willis> shmoon,  what fs  to use.. depends on what you want to do with the USB flash drive.
[11:01] <shmoon> i am ready to do so clcto but what then
[11:01] <clcto> shmoon: gparted will work
[11:01] <joker_> http://oi39.tinypic.com/2w2q102.jpg here's the picture
[11:02] <shmoon> i want to transfer files from ubuntu to a mac i bought
[11:02] <shmoon> just dont wanan tar :P
[11:02] <dirkounet> hello,I do have problems with sound on my bluetooth speaker. Pairing and connecting works fine, but I get no sound
[11:02] <shmoon> wanna*
[11:02] <joker_> it goes away after 3sec or so
[11:02] <joker_> when everything loads
[11:02] <shmoon> want to go the harder way of mainting permissions and stuff
[11:02] <shmoon> maybe even transfer to windows as a backup dunno
[11:02] <dirkounet> instead i receive the following message: [pulseaudio] module-bluetooth-device.c: Profile has no transport
[11:02] <cfhowlett> joker_, any chance your graphics card is faulty?
[11:02] <clcto> shmoon: if you want windows it must be fat or ntfs
[11:02] <joker_> nah I don't think so
[11:02] <joker_> it's kinda old though
[11:02] <dirkounet> i am using ubuntu 13.04, does anyone have an idea?
[11:02] <joker_> but there's no problem at all when everything is loaded
[11:02] <clcto> shmoon: windows linux and mac can read either
[11:03] <clcto> shmoon: gksu gparted
[11:03] <joker_> nor was there any in win, but I don't plan going back :D
[11:04] <AtuM> dirkounet, must say I use logitech bt audio adapter for my speakers and that works just great with ubuntu 13.04
[11:05] <hulu> $log $chroot $ROOT useradd -c "$RET" -k /etc/skel  -m "$USER" $UIDOPT >/dev/null || true why not copy file from /etc/skel
[11:05] <hulu> who can help me
[11:05] <dirkounet> my creative D200 work also fine on 11.10. (girlfriends system)
[11:05] <AtuM> dirkounet, perhaps you're missing a package or the bt device doesn't get recognized right.. I'm not at the right machine to check.. but you might want to search in synaptic for bluetooth audio
[11:05] <dirkounet> its all correctly installed, pairing etc. works fine, no issue, out of the box
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> dirkounet  use blueman to search bluetooth devices
[11:06] <Kartagis> clcto: so, do you have an opinion for me?
[11:06] <joker_> anyone knows the command to get my video card's name?
[11:07] <joker_> nvm
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> joker_  lspci ?
[11:07] <joker_> yeah
[11:07] <dirkounet> MonkkeyDust, ok i will try and let you know
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> dirkounet  can also be device-related: not every device can do anything over bluetooth
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> or every model
[11:13] <diki> Where is libdb4.8++-dev?
[11:13] <diki> libdb4.8-dev is there, but that is for C applications
[11:14] <DoctorWedgeworth> is it possible/easy to downgrade PHP from 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.6 to 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.5 on 12.04?
[11:15] <k1l_> DoctorWedgeworth: take a look at apt pinning
[11:16] <k1l_> but be aware of some depencie problems if other packages want the newer package of php
[11:16] <joker_> 'Could not create gnome accelerators directory `/home/joker/.gnome2/accels': Permission denied' when I want to start Firefox.. o.o
[11:16] <joker_> i'll reinstall
[11:17] <joeytwiddle_> i doubt that will help joker_
[11:17] <joker_> me too
[11:17] <joeytwiddle_> don't you have permission to write to that folder?
[11:17] <DoctorWedgeworth> k1l_, forgive my lack of knowledge here, but I thought apt-pinning was to ensure only certain packages were upgraded from an additional repo (eg. backports), will the 12.04 repository still provide a copy of the older PHP so I can downgrade if I specify the version number?
[11:17] <muteb> has anybdy used rkhunter?
[11:17] <DoctorWedgeworth> joker_, does /home/joker/.gnome2 exist? It might be reporting the wrong error, try creating that directory
[11:18] <joker_> sec
[11:18] <k1l_> DoctorWedgeworth: pinning will keep a specific version number fixed. i think it must be in the repos for that, or at least in your apt-cache
[11:18] <joker_> no but why does it want to use .gnome2?
[11:18] <joker_> isn't unity built on top of gnome3?
[11:19] <joker_> wait.. it does exist
[11:19] <DoctorWedgeworth> can you make a directory inside it as your user?
[11:19] <joker_> i'll rm it
[11:19] <k1l_> joker_: make sure your /home belongs to your user
[11:19] <DoctorWedgeworth> k1l_, ah yeah as I thought - it's for holding. I really need to downgrade, not prevent an upgrade
[11:19] <k1l_> that is a common problem, when people go mad with sudo and root rights
[11:20] <joker_> it does
[11:20] <dirkounet> MonkeyDust, purging bluetooth and using only blueman works! Thanks for the hint
[11:20] <shmoon> clcto: there?
[11:20] <k1l_> DoctorWedgeworth: downgrade should work, too. iirc
[11:20] <shmoon> so changing fs reuires to format all data fist ?
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> dirkounet  glad you're helped :)
[11:21] <joker_> oh shit
[11:21] <jpds> shmoon: Yes?
[11:21] <joker_> sec reboot
[11:22] <shmoon> jpds: ok, just curious, trying to understand. was wonderinf if fs could be changed without remving the data hehe
[11:22] <joker_> i wanted to install a rhythmbox shoutcast plugin, but it seems to have messed up that folder
[11:23] <joker_> i just removed it and firefox boots fine
[11:29] <pm_> hi
[11:29] <pm_> anyone here
[11:29] <Fleck> just ask
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> pm_: many people are here
[11:30] <buengenio> hi
[11:30] <buengenio> got a switcheable graphics laptop
[11:30] <buengenio> installed ubuntu, it picked up and set up the Intel 4000 correctly, with GLX
[11:31] <buengenio> I tried enabling the discrete NVidia graphics by installing bumblebee, which didn't work so I removed it
[11:31] <buengenio> but now I don't have GLX
[11:32] <buengenio> I did apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core; rebooted
[11:32] <buengenio> but still no GLX
[11:32] <demonio> hi all i've a laptop with win8 so i try to install a dual boot by pendrive with  ubuntu 13.04 the problem is that when it say that installation has been terminated and that is need restart for use O.S.
[11:32] <buengenio> running 13.04
[11:32] <pm_> i installed lubuntu on oracle vm under windows 2003 server host & setup diff. ip for both but when i rdp to windows machine  it shows xwindow with black screen & X mouse pointer
[11:32] <demonio> start directly windows8 without give me the choise of the O.S.
[11:32] <demonio> how can i solve that?
[11:35] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:36] <Mez_> If I update my /etc/pokit-1/localauthority.conf.d/* files - how do I get polkit to regognise the changes ?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[11:39] <corehook> 50centos
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> pm_: do you mean vnc
[11:40] <BluesKaj> hey ActionParsnip , how goes it ?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: work as usual, you?
[11:40] <BluesKaj> same old , ActionParsnip , still retired and lazy :)
[11:41] <lobato> good morning
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> Mez_: could reboot if you get no response as a last ditch
[11:42] <Tking> hello guys, i am having problem installing VirtualBox Extension Pac
[11:43] <pm_> ActionParsnip: i started xrdp on lubuntu & rdp on windows but i when i try to connect rdp on windows 2003 server it shows xwindow
[11:43] <EmiF-> Hi, how can i export my updates on my external?
[11:44] <EmiF-> Please help
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> EmiF-: copy the deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> pm_: does CTRL+ALT+T do anything in the session?
[11:45] <EmiF-> And can i install them on a diff computer?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> EmiF-: sure, as long as its the same arch
[11:45] <EmiF-> What do u mean?
[11:45] <EmiF-> They are both toshibas and running on ubuntu
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> EmiF-: 32bit debs for 32bit ubuntu
[11:46] <Mez_> ActionParsnip: I'm looking to make it pick it up via chef :) I'd rather not reboot :)
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> EmiF-: 64bit debs for 64bit ubuntu
[11:46] <EmiF-> Where can i find that folder ActionParsnip ?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> EmiF-: that is the folder
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> EmiF-: thats like asking "where is C:\WINDOWS"    it is the folder named absolutely
[11:48] <EmiF-> thx ActionParsnip
[11:48] <Tking> I downloaded the virtualbox extension pack .deb file but while trying to install i get error from the deb file saying Break existing package 'virtualbox' that conflict: 'virtualbox'
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Tking: install it in a terminal, the output will be more useful
[11:49] <Tking> ok
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Tking: don't they usually have a .vbox-extpack file extension?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Tking: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.2.12/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.2.12-84980.vbox-extpack
[11:51] <deoland> hi,i having a serious problem installing a virtual host
[11:51] <shmoon> so i formatted my pendrive to a different fs, but now i cannot write to it, any idea why ? :(
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> deoland: the host is just the OS running the virtualization, so if youare having issues installing that, then virtualization is not part of the issue
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> deoland: do you mean a guest OS running on a host system?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> shmoon: what file system did you use?
[11:53] <Ingot1> hello
[11:53] <nicktole> hello
[11:53] <shmoon> from vfat to ext4, ActionParsnip
[11:53] <shmoon> using gparted
[11:53] <nicktole> The previous question on virtualbox
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> shmoon: if you chown the mount point to your user, you should be ok
[11:53] <nicktole> I got a solution
[11:53] <deoland>  i having this problem "Please install the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and execute 'modprobe vboxdrv' as root."
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> deoland: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[11:53] <Tking> ActionParsnip, thanks, it worked the URL u pasted
[11:54] <nicktole> if you are using ubuntu13.04
[11:54] <nicktole> let me tell you,it doen't run there
[11:54] <nicktole> not stable
[11:54] <nicktole> have reported the bug
[11:54] <shmoon> ActionParsnip: mount point should be /media/sony or /dev/sdb1 ?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> shmoon: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /media/sony
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> shmoon: run that as I gave it, you'll be ok
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> nicktole: is the one from the virtualbox repo ok?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> deoland: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> deoland: its a terminal command
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> shmoon: assuming the mount point you gave is the one of the new ext4 partition you made
[11:56] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: how do I get my Tab key working globally again?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: not sure, have you tried a different session?
[11:56] <shmoon> thanks ActionParsnip that works :D
[11:57] <shmoon> ActionParsnip: can you tell me something, if i take usb out and plug in again, /media/sony still has $#USER:$USER but not root:root - howcome ?
[11:57] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: you mean like logout and back in?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> shmoon: ext4 stores the owners and stuff correctly in Linux form, so is dead useful in Linux only storage
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: log in to a different session, could try out and back in to the same session, see if it helps
[11:57] <shmoon> ActionParsnip: hope the data i put in the usb remains intact iwth permissions and owner info when i transfer to mac too :)
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> shmoon: you chowned it, the UID of your user is stored in the file system
[11:58] <k610> when i paste a large number of commands on the shell : some commands will break the flow and only the commands before the break point will actually be ran
[11:58] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: I don't know how you log on to a different session
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> shmoon: just remember to use the safe remove feature in your OS each time you pull it out :)
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: at the login screen, you can choose the session. You can install xfce, kde and lxde then select which you want to use when you login
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> k610: could make a shell script and run that
[11:59] <Kartagis> oh, that
[11:59] <Kartagis> brb
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: what else.....
[11:59] <shmoon> ActionParsnip: actually what i mean is, when i plug out usb, /media/sony gets destroyed right ? then i plug in and the folder is back with the proper ownership info, howcome ?
[11:59] <k610> ActionParsnip, thing is none of the commands go in the history then
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> shmoon: the UID for each file is stored, just like it is in decent file systems, you can grant and deny access. The access you give is stored on the USB as well as the daat
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> k610: I guess
[12:00] <shmoon> oh i see got it thanks ActionParsnip
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> k610: could break it into smaller chunks, or make it one big command on one line
[12:00] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: hrm, I'm on ubuntu 2d now, and it works. it doesn't work in cairo-dock
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: ahh so we now have some more info on the issue :)
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: are there any bugs reported ?
[12:01] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: and when I'm in ubuntu 2d and run cairo-dock, it still works
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: ok so it sounds like compiz is making the issue (not uncommon)
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: I'd check your compiz config some
[12:02] <halawany> please i need help i have just installed gparted & gnome disk utility trough ubuntu software manager but i couldnt locate them in application menu after that
[12:02] <Kartagis> https://www.google.com.tr/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=cairo+dock+alt+tab+not+working&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&redir_esc=&ei=58qUUayhJ8TcOtG-gcAG
[12:03] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip
[12:03] <dfcnvt> Does anybody know the solution to problem when I found out by turning on my firewall (iptables's script), it connect normally but when I flush my iptables, it slowed down as if there is an on-going DoS.
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> dfcnvt  ubuntu?
[12:04] <dfcnvt> MonkeyDust: Yes
[12:05] <fractaline> halawany, did you try to log out/in?
[12:05] <halawany> yes i tried & restart the machine too
[12:08] <fractaline> but it shows in software manager?
[12:08] <Kartagis> hrm
[12:09] <Kartagis> Super+Tab runs ring switcher
[12:09] <Kartagis> and now alt+tab works too
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  you can change that, using ccsm
[12:09] <Kartagis> heh
[12:10] <Kartagis> MonkeyDust: all I wanted was alt+tab to work, and now it does
[12:10] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: ^
[12:10] <halawany> any ideas guys
[12:10] <squig> on 12.04 here, and I wondered if there was a package that installed a set of themes that are compatible with gnome-classic ?
[12:11] <dfcnvt> halawany: By looking at your previous comment, you said that you are trying to get gparted program to run?
[12:12] <dfcnvt> (Alt + F2) then type "gksu gparted" (without quote)
[12:12] <Guest20701> hi guys
[12:12] <cfhowlett> Guest20701, greetings
[12:13] <Guest20701> i wanna ask something, how can i fix up an outlook.com email into thunderbird mail service?
[12:14] <Guest20701> By the way, I fall in love UBUNTU
[12:14] <dfcnvt> Guest20701: http://blog.tech4him.com/moving-outlook-pst-emails-to-thunderbird-on-ubuntu-linux/
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> halawany  click the dash icon and type the name of the program you want
[12:14] <Guest20701> I just installed it alongside win7, after i learnt Ubuntu, NO WINDOWS ANYMORE IN MY WORLD!
[12:15] <Guest20701> dfcnvt, thanks heartfelt.
[12:16] <HexKey> When installing ubuntu server the autoconifuration of networking failed. How do i manually configure it? I appreciate that this is a total beginners question.
[12:16] <Kartagis> I want to install google-chrome-stable but it won't let me, saying it needs libudev0 but ubuntu ships libudev1. what to do?
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> HexKey  in /etc/network/interfaces and in /etc/resolv.conf
[12:17] <HexKey> in interfaces i just have auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[12:18] <dfcnvt> HexKey: I recommended you use ethernet connection first when installing ubuntu-server. Afterward, you're free to switch to wireless if that's the problem with your networking issue.
[12:18] <HexKey> I have seen examples of configuring eth0, but how do i know the ip address to fill in there?
[12:18] <vnc786> how to edit boot parameters when booting on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit i have tried to press  "e" but that didn't work
[12:18] <HexKey> i have the ethernet plugged in, and it is pluggedinto the outside dsl in the server room
[12:19] <dfcnvt> Kartagis: try "sudo apt-get install libudev0" (without quote)
[12:19] <Kartagis> dfcnvt: it doesn't exist
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> HexKey  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-ubuntu-system-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address.html
[12:20] <dfcnvt> Kartagis: libudev0 - udev library
[12:20] <Kartagis> dfcnvt: sudo apt-get -y install libudev<Tab>
[12:20] <Kartagis> libudev1     libudev-dev
[12:20] <dfcnvt> Kartagis: According to apt-cache, it does.
[12:20] <kblin> hi folks
[12:21] <kblin> which tool is talking to daisy.ubuntu.com all the time?
[12:21] <Kartagis> dfcnvt: it doesn't for me
[12:21] <Kartagis> !find libudev0
[12:21] <Kartagis> dfcnvt: ^
[12:21] <HexKey> Cheers MonkeyDust but how can i confirm that thos ip addresses are the ones i need to insert?
[12:21] <kblin> I'm currently trying to debug some dns issues, and the constant requests for daisy.ubuntu.com are a bit annoying
[12:22] <tbharath> unable to see os options after installing ubuntu 13.04, directly booting to windows
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> HexKey  you need to know you're router's IP address
[12:22] <DJones> kblin: Its possibly the whoopsie app, http://askubuntu.com/questions/135540/what-is-the-whoopsie-process-and-how-can-i-remove-it mentions that it reports to that address
[12:23] <dfcnvt> HexKey: try do the following if you're on the terminal, "ifconfig eth0 down; sleep 2; ifconfig eth0 up; sleep 2; sudo dhclient eth0" (without quote)
[12:23] <vnc786> how to edit boot parameters when booting ubuntu 12.04 64 bit i have tried to press  "e" but that didn't work
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: that's it, hold SHIFT at boot and you can edit on the fly that way
[12:24] <kblin> DJones: yeah, seems like it
[12:25] <dfcnvt> Kartagis: Use this instead. https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> dfcnvt: won't if down and up need sudo too?
[12:25] <kblin> DJones: I wonder why a crash reporter keeps hooking up with its server when there's no crashes
[12:25] <HexKey> SIOCSIFLAGSL permission denied  dfcnvt
[12:25] <dfcnvt> ActionParsnip: Probably yes. good idea to add sudo.
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> kblin: you can disable it in /etc/default/apport and reboot, should make that go away
[12:25] <DJones> kblin: I've no idea how it works, I'd only expect it to connect when it encounters a problem
[12:26] <dfcnvt> HexKey: add the sudo before ifconfig
[12:26] <HexKey> ok i did that and it seems to just hang dfcnvt
[12:26] <vnc786> ActionParsnip: Done
[12:26] <DJones> kblin: But you said you were trying debug some issues, maybe there's something behind the issues that apport is picking up and trying to report
[12:26] <HexKey> should i revert to the original interfaces file and delete my eth0 block?
[12:27] <ghostwheel> i can't get the right screen res. I've googled and tried a bunch of different stuff and nothing works. it's making me insane
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> HexKey: interfaces file only has lo defined, 2 lines
[12:27] <kblin> DJones: I'm running the samba4 internal dns server and I'm trying to work out a problem with gssapi TSIG updates from win7 clients that want to update their IP addres
[12:27] <kblin> DJones: this is in-development code, nothing that apport should care about
[12:27] <HexKey> ok let me revert it back to only 2 lines then ill run it again 1 sec ActionParsnip
[12:27] <kblin> but something kept hitting my DNS server and spamming my log output
[12:28] <SonikkuAmerica> ghostwheel: See what I wrote in #lubuntu
[12:28] <kblin> ActionParsnip: actually aptitude purge whoopsie worked fine without a reboot
[12:28] <k610> ActionParsnip, found out ctrl-x ctrl-e was easier
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> HexKey: you cn just comment out the lines you added, rather tahn deleting then :)
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> k610: sweet
[12:28] <HexKey> yep i commented them :), but dhclient eth0 seems to do nothing or take a long time
[12:28] <k610> ActionParsnip, just paste in all lines there and they all go in histroy
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> kblin: nice, try and use apt-get though, it handles muti-arch better
[12:29] <dfcnvt> HexKey: after you entered dhclient, you should expect to see this result, ""
[12:29] <kblin> ActionParsnip: hm, annoying. I prefer the more consistent command line of aptitude
[12:30] <dfcnvt> HexKey: "RTNETLINK answers: File exists"
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> !aptitude
[12:30] <HexKey> dfcnvt: it is just flashing the cursor as if it is busy
[12:31] <tbharath> this is the boot info  I got http://paste.ubuntu.com/5670611/
[12:31] <dfcnvt> HexKey: Did you use down/up via ifconfig?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> kblin: so apps like skype will moan etc, if you are using 32bit anyway then use what you wish :)
[12:32] <HexKey> yep i pasted the exact line you said without the quotes dfcnvt
[12:32] <dfcnvt> HexKey: "sudo ifconfig eth0 down; sudo ifconfig eth0 up; sudo dhclient eth0"
[12:33] <HexKey> dfcnvt: same result :(
[12:34] <dfcnvt> HexKey: Power cycled your server?
[12:34] <kblin> ActionParsnip: I don't care too much about skype, but fair enough, that is one of the 32bit apps one might need
[12:36] <HexKey> dfcnvt: power cycled? Its a brand new install on a laptop to act as a test for deploying a web application
[12:37] <HexKey> i'll reboot it now dfcnvt
[12:38] <HexKey> ok its back up dfcnvt
[12:39] <dfcnvt> HexKey: So, are you currently on the terminal? Any prompt coming to you?
[12:39] <HexKey> yep
[12:39] <HexKey> i just logged in with a user account
[12:40] <dfcnvt> HexKey: okay, try 'ping google.com' to see if it's connected.
[12:40] <HexKey> unkown host
[12:40] <dfcnvt> Grr
[12:40] <dfcnvt> sudo dhclient
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> HexKey  is that wifi or ethernet?
[12:41] <HexKey> ethernet is plugged in
[12:41] <HexKey> its definitely plugged into the switch thing in the server room that is linked to our outside line
[12:41] <squig> on 12.04 here, and I wondered if there was a package that installed a set of themes that are compatible with gnome-classic ?
[12:42] <dfcnvt> HexKey: Ah, that may be your problem right there. You're currently connected to the switch. Which is not DHCP server based.
[12:43] <HexKey> im not sure exactly what that thing is int he server room, i can go and ask some question to the guy down there if you know what i need to ask ?
[12:43] <dfcnvt> HexKey: You want to make sure your laptop is connected to a router with dhcp sever on.
[12:44] <dfcnvt> If they're all static based then well, you may need to config your laptop to make it work.
[12:44] <HexKey> i think i will be forced to connect into the box that i am already connected into
[12:44] <HexKey> 1 sec let me go down and find out exactly what it is
[12:44] <dfcnvt> No problem.
[12:46] <HexKey> Bah hes at lunch obv.
[12:46] <dfcnvt> HexKey: http://www.sudo-juice.com/how-to-a-set-static-ip-in-ubuntu/
[12:48] <HexKey> nm isnt installed :(
[12:49] <plumblum> hello again ppl, is it normal to get very very slow speeds when transfering from an ntfs disk to an ext4 disk via samba ? to any other disk (raid 1+0) and raid 0 i get around 90 and with this disk i get around 30 or lower altough it starts out at 80 and hangs there for a while before dropping
[12:50] <dfcnvt> HexKey: It may make no differnces but try the following, "sudo service resolvconf restart
[12:50] <everestt> [BUG??] When I have my desktop icons TURNED OFF and I'm at the desktop, the Super key doesn't bring up the launcher. The Super key works as expected when I have any application window open. Anyone have similar experience? Any solutions?
[12:51] <dfcnvt> HexKey: and this "sudo service networking restart
[12:51] <HexKey> ok i ran those dfcnvt now i try ping and dhcleint again?
[12:52] <HexKey> ping results in Network is unreachable
[12:52] <HexKey> dhclient just hangs forever as before
[12:53] <HexKey> whoah
[12:53] <dfcnvt> HexKey: What?
[12:53] <HexKey> dhclient just said File exists dfcnvt
[12:53] <HexKey> progress :)
[12:54] <HexKey> ping google now works
[12:55] <everestt> (^by launcher I mean the search window) ...Also, when I am at the desktop (desktop icons turned off of course) and I hover the mouse over the launcher or the top panel and press super the search window shows up! ...anyone? help!?
[12:55] <HexKey> will i need to restart resolveconf and networkign everytime? dfcnvt  also nothing changed in interfaces.
[12:56] <emif-> ActionParsnip: i have copied that folder to another computer using nautilus to gain permission, but the thing is i have to install each package one by one
[12:56] <emif-> is there a way to install them all together?
[12:57] <emif-> guys, i have copied my updates from var/cache/apt to another computer, how to install them all together ?
[12:57] <emif-> help pls
[12:57] <Tankado> Hello, i have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, and a dell laptop with docking station and two monitors connected to it, on windows i see both monitors, on ubuntu only one is working
[12:57] <Tankado> anyone know anything about that? :)
[12:58] <SonikkuAmerica> Tankado: Is HDMI involved?
[12:58] <cfhowlett> emif-, wouldn't sudo dpkg -i * do it?
[12:58] <Tankado> the screen that is working connected with HDMI
[12:58] <Tankado> i had the same problem with windows when the laptop screen was on, when i closed it it worked
[12:58] <SonikkuAmerica> Tankado: Check in System Settings > Displays to see that both are detected.
[12:59] <FourFire> Hello
[12:59] <Tankado> no, it detects only one screen and the laptop screen
[13:00] <emif-> cfhowlett: this would install my updates from a folder ?
[13:00] <cfhowlett> emif-, if all your .debs are in the same location ... yes
[13:00] <arcripex> Failed to look for applications online
[13:00] <arcripex> GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.xdg.Exceptions.ParsingError: Traceback (most recent call last):
[13:00] <arcripex> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/defer/__init__.py", line 489, in _inline_callbacks
[13:00] <arcripex> result = gen.send(result)
[13:00] <arcripex> File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/sessioninstaller/core.py", line 1030, in _install_mime_types
[13:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Tankado: This is odd... very odd. I know from experience that such a setup should work..
[13:00] <arcripex> path))
[13:00] <FloodBot1> arcripex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:00] <FourFire> I have a question (as a noob user) is it possible (without too much of a hasstle) and adviseable for me to repartion my hard drive around my current Ubuntu installation ?
[13:00] <emif-> ok thanks
[13:00] <FourFire> (I have and want to keep windows on the other partion)
[13:01] <cfhowlett> FourFire, yes.  gparted.  boot a live cd/usb and run it.
[13:01] <SonikkuAmerica> FourFire: What are you looking to do with the new partition?
[13:01] <Tankado> SonikkuAmerica : ok, strangley i see 3 screens now but now one is red
[13:01] <emif-> let me try it cfhowlett one minute please
 : nvm... back to only one
[13:01] <FourFire> Ok situation: I have a windows laptop and installed Ubuntu on D:\ via Wubi
[13:01] <cfhowlett> FourFire, ah, well, WUBI ... that does changes things.
[13:02] <SonikkuAmerica> FourFire: Do you want to migrate it to a hard disk partition?
[13:02] <FourFire> I have an oddly porportioned C:\ vs D:\ so most of my files are borkily rerouted on D:\
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> FourFire  wubi is the worst invention since coffee without sugar
[13:02] <shmoon> hi is ext4 not readable by mac ?
[13:02] <cfhowlett> FourFire, you should know that wubi is being discontinued ...
[13:02] <shmoon> i formtted usb to ext4 in ubuntu and put in some data, now on mac the usb isnt readab;e any idea whats wrong ?
[13:02] <FourFire> I want to be able to access the same files i can via windows... on Ubuntu
[13:03] <SonikkuAmerica> FourFire: In your Ubuntu install, check out the /host folder.
[13:03] <emif-> cfhowlett: i have tried sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[13:03] <emif-> and it says it cannot access folder
[13:03] <dfcnvt> HexKey: Sorry, I got disconnected for a while. So, did you get it working?
[13:03] <FourFire> I think I can... at least I've muddled around my file system and i can sometimes locate files in places... but it's a pain
[13:03] <SonikkuAmerica> FourFire: /host is on the root of the drive.
[13:03] <SonikkuAmerica> FourFire: (i.e. in /)
[13:03] <cfhowlett> emif-, eh? sudo dpkg -i putaddresshere/*.debs
[13:04] <FourFire> I forget each time how I manage to locate the holdercalled HOST or something
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> FourFire  create a separate partition, that can be accessed by both windows and linux
[13:04] <q_plaz> the new linux headers that were available in dist-upgrade for ubuntu...are those patched for the elevation kernel bug?
[13:04] <FourFire> if I could I'd take the lazy option and make a shortcut to HOST and put it on my Ubuntu desktop
[13:04] <Kartagis> !find libudev0
[13:04] <Kartagis> dfcnvt: ^
[13:04] <HexKey> dfcnvt: ping works now
[13:04] <dfcnvt> HexKey: Awesome
[13:04] <Kartagis> dfcnvt: so, what to do now?
[13:04] <SonikkuAmerica> Kartagis: libudev0 version 175 is available via WebUpd8's site.
[13:04] <FourFire> (but that's just going to make more problems for me down the line since I already basically shorcut entire sections of D:\ to my desktop in windows
[13:05] <supersecond> hello
[13:05] <FourFire> )
[13:05] <cfhowlett> supersecond, greetings
[13:05] <Kartagis> SonikkuAmerica: how do I add that as a repo?
[13:05] <HexKey> now i need to set up a static ip, so i used  route to get the gateway
[13:05] <supersecond> anyone know how to setup file sharing on xubuntu 13.04?
[13:05] <dfcnvt> Kartagis: try type "apt-cache search libudev0" in your own system.
[13:05] <Pici> emif-: are you actually in the folder where the deb files are?
[13:05] <supersecond> cfhowlett, hi
[13:05] <FourFire> Basically I can see an impending problem and i want to FIX it now instead of later
[13:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Kartagis: It's not a repo; it's a .deb file.
[13:05] <Kartagis> dfcnvt: I did, no results
[13:05] <FourFire> and hell I might learn something too :=)
[13:05] <SonikkuAmerica> dfcnvt: libudev0 isn't in 13.04.
[13:05] <SonikkuAmerica> Kartagis: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/fix-google-chrome-cant-be-installed-in.html
[13:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Kartagis: There it is.
[13:06] <Kartagis> SonikkuAmerica++
[13:06] <Kartagis> thanks man
[13:06] <SonikkuAmerica> Kartagis: You're welcome.
[13:06] <HexKey> dfcnvt:  i filled out eth0 in interfaces with what i thik is the correct information but i get Failed top bring up eth0
[13:06] <FourFire> "FourFire  create a separate partition, that can be accessed by both windows and linux" that's what I was thinking of doing
[13:07] <SonikkuAmerica> Kartagis: It was dropped due to the use of libudev1, but Google Chrome hadn't been rewritten for Linux using it.
[13:07] <FourFire> Partion *around* my Ubuntu install and then what's left of D:\ becomes... something else
[13:07]  * Kartagis shakes fist google chrome devs
[13:07] <Pici> !who
[13:07] <Kartagis> at*
[13:07] <dfcnvt> HexKey: Do you need to set up static ip as per requirement? Since your laptop is working fine with dhcp.
[13:07] <q_plaz> Where can I get release notes on the kernel updates for ubuntu?
[13:07] <FourFire> but can I do that when I have files on the space i want to partion?
[13:07] <SonikkuAmerica> Kartagis: Ironically, Chromium was rebuilt from libudev1 (I think)
[13:08] <shmoon> what file system is good for a usb to transfer files from ubuntu to mac ? seems like mac cant understand ext4
[13:08] <HexKey> i want to serve a web application from it
[13:08] <Kartagis> SonikkuAmerica: flash crashes on chromium too often
[13:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Kartagis: Expect it to. It's only version 11.2
[13:09] <Tankado> So anyone know about the problem with 2 screens connection in a dell computer?
[13:09] <Kartagis> (I know, there are still sites which use flash)
[13:09] <Tankado> windows works fine
[13:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Kartagis: All that gets updated are security patches, and in 2015 or -16 it'll be dumped completely.
[13:09] <cfhowlett> FourFire, repartitioning safely with gparted with move those files.  However, running wubi is ... inadvisable.  you're better off dual booting.
[13:10] <SonikkuAmerica> cfhowlett: dotdotdot inadvisable? Or just flat inadvisable?
[13:10] <SonikkuAmerica> ZS
[13:10] <SonikkuAmerica> *XD
[13:10] <dfcnvt> HexKey: That's fine. You don't need to use static. just use 'apt-get install ...' a list of webserver that you desired to install.
[13:10] <Kartagis> SonikkuAmerica: hopefully. I keep telling everyone that they should ditch flash in favour of html5, but webdevs think it's fancy
[13:10] <q_plaz> I've had such bad luck with wubi. Slowness, crashing, freezes
[13:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Kartagis: There's Gnash, but it's in no workable state.
[13:11] <SonikkuAmerica> q_plaz: Wubi is being discontinued as an option.
[13:11] <cfhowlett> SonikkuAmerica, imagine  the command sudo no wubi.  Now imagine Samuel L. Jackson saying sudo no wubi
[13:12] <SonikkuAmerica> q_plaz: Mainly due to just that.
[13:12] <dfcnvt> HexKey: Setting up your own webserver, http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_debian_lamp_server
[13:12] <SonikkuAmerica> cfhowlett: Huh?
[13:12] <Criten_> Hey guys.... my network drops every couple of webpages i visit. I have ubuntu 12.04 and a shuttle pc... what would be the best way to go about debugging this?
[13:12] <HexKey> i installed lamp as part of the unbuntu server installation dfcnvt, but since editing interfaces to try a static ip i have destory what little networking i had before :(
[13:13] <q_plaz> SonikkuAmerica: It's a shame because it's such a great idea
[13:13] <SonikkuAmerica> q_plaz: I eventually ditched Windows, mainly because of my small hard disk size (only 80 GB)
[13:13] <HexKey> dfcnvt: repeating the previous steps of restarting resolveconf and networking the dhclient has failed to return a fucntioning network :(
[13:14] <FourFire> cfhowlett how do i check my Ubuntu version (whether it is Wubi or not)?
[13:15] <SonikkuAmerica> FourFire: [ lsb_release -a ]
[13:15] <FourFire> in terminal?
[13:15] <Jeruvy> Criten_ find out what is causing the outage.  In many cases its likely to be a flaky nic card, cable, or a router.
[13:15] <cfhowlett> FourFire, how did you install it?   with the windows installer?  if so; wubi
[13:15] <SonikkuAmerica> FourFire: Yep
[13:15] <Criten_> Jeruvy, Pretty sure the card, cable, and router worked fine in windows
[13:16] <habuuu> hey
[13:16] <dfcnvt> HexKey: I think once you get your networking back to normal. You really don't need to go through the process of getting it to STATIC. Since, your sole interest is to run a web server for experimental purpose, right?
[13:17] <HexKey> but i need to be able to access the server via ssh from another network to push the code to it and ssh into it
[13:17] <FourFire> so the version will be the same even if it's Wubi?
[13:17] <dfcnvt> Use host other than ip based.
[13:18] <FourFire> there's no way to tell if the version I have now is Wubi, besides how I installed it?
[13:18] <dfcnvt> HexKey: Are you currently in university or school property? if so, there should be a host for it.
[13:18] <cfhowlett> FourFire, you could look in your windows directory for /ubuntu
[13:18] <deusAnima> Hi guys! How can i disable combination <alt> + ~ ?
[13:18] <hnsz> Is there a way to bind the keyboard music keys to audacious instead of rhythmbox? (PLAY/PAUSE, STOP, BCK, FWD
[13:18] <FourFire> The reason I ask is because another person who uses Linux did some things after and I don't know specifically what
[13:18] <HexKey> im not unfortunately, im at our small buisness office
[13:19] <SonikkuAmerica> hnsz: I think getting rid of rhythmbox would solve that problem... or switching the default application for music to Audacious
[13:19] <hnsz> SonikkuAmerica: I've removed rythmbox after installing audacious. Shall try setting it to default. THanks
[13:19] <FourFire> oh **** no
[13:20] <FourFire> OOPs
[13:20] <BenB> how do I force-remove a package that cannot be configured? "dpkg --purge --force-all cyrus-common-2.4" fails with error that it cannot be configured (which makes no sense - I try to remove the package exactly because it refuses to run)
[13:20] <FourFire> I guess I'm going to find out about a question I've always wondered
[13:20] <FourFire> "what happens when you copy a file larger than you have disk space"
[13:20] <Criten_> It doesn't let you
[13:20] <Criten_> : P
[13:20] <plumblum> hello again ppl, is it normal to get very very slow speeds when transfering from an ntfs disk to an ext4 disk via samba ? to any other disk (raid 1+0) and raid 0 i get around 90 and with this disk i get around 30 or lower altough it starts out at 80 and hangs there for a while before dropping
[13:21] <BluesKaj> FourFire, wubi is not an ubuntu version, it's merely a method of installation of ubuntuinto a windows file that you run within windows
[13:21] <Jeruvy> Criten_ That could be so, but its best to eliminate them.
[13:21] <FourFire> ok
[13:21] <FourFire> I csn just
[13:21] <FourFire> cancel
[13:21] <FourFire> :D I wasn't expecting that
[13:21] <FourFire> so yeah there is a ubuntu folder in host
[13:22] <FourFire> also an "uninstall wubi.exe"
[13:22] <Guest97059> hy ... someone could help me ... I have  my /usr/bin/apt-mirror  permissions changing alone
[13:22] <dfcnvt> HexKey: http://askubuntu.com/questions/180925/how-to-setup-static-ip-in-ubuntu-server-12-04
[13:22] <FourFire> would I be doing something increadibly stupid if I ran that via wine?
[13:22] <AtuM> FourFire, ran what?
[13:22] <compdoc> plumblum, not normal, no
[13:22] <cfhowlett> FourFire, stupid?  no.
[13:23] <Guest97059> i made chmod 755 for ir but after it has 750
[13:23] <Guest97059> someone could help me
[13:23] <AtuM> oh.. the uninstall wubi.exe.. from within wubi.. that can be fun..
[13:23] <plumblum> compdoc, it should be around 80 that is normal speeds and i got that over the network with windows to windows machine, where should i start looking ?
[13:24] <Guest97059> could someone help me with permissions to /usr/bin/apt-mirror
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> Guest97059: is it an NTFS partition which is holding the data?
[13:24] <deusAnima> How can i disable combination <alt> + ~ ?
[13:25] <Guest97059> ext4
[13:26] <Guest97059> I set it with 755 but alone it changes to 750
[13:26] <AtuM> Guest97059, it should stay 750
[13:26] <compdoc> plumblum, its hard to say exactly, but copying large files and large amounts of files is one way of testing hardware setups. if it pauses and stops, etc. theres a problem.
[13:26] <AtuM> Guest97059, start using sudo for system-altering commands
[13:27] <compdoc> plumblum, is there a raid controller?
[13:27] <Guest97059> AtuM, I need it with 755
[13:27] <Guest97059> I use cron to run it
[13:27] <AtuM> Guest97059, you don't. not really
[13:27] <plumblum> compdoc, there is, and i am copying large amount of files but no stopping starting :)
[13:27] <compdoc> plumblum, but not to the ubuntu pc?
[13:28] <Guest97059> I need it has 755 to user apt-mirror can run it
[13:28] <plumblum> compdoc, what is ? the ubuntu machine has a raid controller and the windows machine does not and no one of them is starting stopping
[13:28] <plumblum> Hardware raid controller
[13:28] <Guest97059> but something change the permission
[13:29] <AtuM> Guest97059, run whatever needs to be done using sudo.. have that user in sudoers and allow him access only to apt-mirror..
[13:29] <FourFire> AtuM the windows uninstaller for Wubi , via Wine
[13:29] <compdoc> plumblum, you said copying was having problems
[13:30] <plumblum> compdoc, no its just slow as hell
[13:30] <compdoc> thats what I mean
[13:30] <Guest97059> I can't do it ... :( I would like to know who is changing permissions to 750
[13:30] <plumblum> same disks on a windows server gave 80 MB on the network and now its hanging out at 25
[13:30] <plumblum> same disk *
[13:31] <FourFire> cfhowlett, do you recommend that I switch versions of Ubuntu to something else? (I don't have any important files on Ubuntu yet and not much invested in GUI/desk top environment so I won't mind trying something new)
[13:31] <AtuM> Guest97059, perhaps nothing is changing the file.. ever.. perhaps the chmod command does not work for that file.. have you checked that it changes?
[13:32] <buengenio> how do i re-enable GLX on XOrg and also add the option to disable the touchpad while typing? I have a Synaptic touch pad...
[13:32] <AtuM> Guest97059, but still.. there's no need for it to be 755. btw: change your nick to something not autogenerated
[13:32] <cfhowlett> FourFire, not necessary to switch distros, but I would advise you to check out the dual boot option.  It's not so complicated as many people make it seem.
[13:33] <Guest97059> the chmod work to that file .... but after the file lost permission and return to 750
[13:33] <cfhowlett> FourFire, as far as what version, go with what you like.  gnome ubuntu/kubuntu/xuubuntu/and vanilla ubuntu all have their charms.
[13:33] <AtuM> Guest97059, there's no such thing as "file lost permission" :)
[13:34] <Guest97059> I need this permission to run apt-mirror on apt-mirror user (with no sudo)
[13:35] <AtuM> Guest97059, why don't you want to use sudo?
[13:35] <mosx1> hi, I'm using ubuntu server 12.04, what would be considered recursive write permission on a folder ? chmod XXX ?
[13:35] <Guest97059> I run in cron.d ... not a human user
[13:36] <AtuM> Guest97059, so what? you think cron files can't handle sudo commands?
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> Guest97059  i run cron jobs with sudo, by using sudo crontab -e
[13:37] <mosx1> anyone help me out ?
[13:37] <AtuM> MonkeyDust, that's editing root's crontab, not running cron jobs with sudo
[13:38] <Guest97059> Ok... but now I would know who change permission to 750 after
[13:38] <mosx1> recursive write permission on a folder ? what's that 755 ?
[13:38] <Guest97059> :( it is my problem
[13:38] <llutz> mosx1: man chmod
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> AtuM   correct, if you want to run cron jobs that require sudo
[13:39] <AtuM> MonkeyDust, ok.. I don't want to argue semantics
[13:40] <FourFire> Alright that's that
[13:40] <FourFire> time to learn about Dualboot was it?
[13:40] <FourFire> ok
[13:40] <njillings> What is your specific item FourFire?
[13:40] <cfhowlett> !dualFourFire,
[13:41] <Guest97059> AtuM, thanks for help ... I'll back later
[13:41] <cfhowlett> !dual|FourFire,
[13:41] <AtuM> MonkeyDust, sometimes, when you need to run some stuff at boot-up using rc.local, you use sudo -u <user> -c <commands> .. that's running commands with sudo (when you need them to run as some other user)..
[13:41] <cfhowlett> !dualboot|FourFire,
[13:41] <njillings> Dual booting is very easy to do, Ubuntu Install assumes dual boot generally
[13:41] <FourFire> well first i was wondering if A noob like me could possibly repartion their disk but then I got the impression that a Wubi install is an inferior option so I'll do that first
[13:41] <njillings> at least, gives you the option
[13:42] <droobey_> Im having a issue running Steam, run it try to login immediately  goes cant connect. Ubuntu 13.04 x64
[13:42] <njillings> FourFire: The Ubuntu Installer has a partition manager and guides you through creating the dual boot for you
[13:42] <FourFire> which installer is this?
[13:42] <njillings> droobey_ : had a similar issue with x64. On steam website it should have specific instructions as to running their software which is x32
[13:43] <FourFire> is it the WindowsUbuntuinstaller.exe?
[13:43] <njillings> FourFire: The installer on the Ubuntu Disk / USB you make. Put CD into drive and boot from the disk
[13:43] <njillings> FourFire: Gives you the option to run it 'Live' or to install
[13:43] <FourFire> hmm how large does the stick have to be (capacity) ?
[13:44] <njillings> FourFire: At least 750MB for the CD version, at least 4.5GB for the DVD
[13:44] <cfhowlett> FourFire, 4 g minimum I would think
[13:44] <sk8r> 2g should be plenty
[13:44] <FourFire> because like I said i installed it via windows (but without using a disk or thumbdrive
[13:44] <sk8r> for steam?
[13:44] <mosx1> sorry missed any responses there....dodgy internet conn
[13:44] <mosx1> what's the correct permissions for php files?
[13:45] <FourFire> and this guy I know did some things on it later and this is the OS I'm using now
[13:45] <njillings> FourFire: so you're in Ubuntu now? And want to install Windows alongside?
[13:45] <FourFire> no
[13:45] <mosx1> 644?
[13:45] <FourFire> I have windows
[13:46] <FourFire> I reboot my computer and I can select between windows and Ubuntu
[13:46] <njillings> FourFire: OK, so you already have a dual boot system then
[13:46] <FourFire> (it defaults to windows, unless I manually select Ubuntu)
[13:46] <FourFire> ok
[13:46] <cfhowlett> njillings, he's got wubi
[13:46] <FourFire> so now can I possibly repartion my Disk
[13:46] <FourFire> Yeah I installed this OS via windows
[13:46] <k1l_> FourFire: you used wubi installer. you cant repartitionate because that is not a partition
[13:47] <FourFire> so I'm wondering if I can/should install Ubuntu "properly" before doing anything else
[13:47] <k1l_> FourFire: you should consider doing a real install
[13:47] <njillings> FourFire: OK, not a user of WUBI
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> FourFire  wubi is only a pseudo-installation, it's not the real thing
[13:47] <njillings> FourFire: Long term I'd say give it its own real partition
[13:48] <FourFire> Now is this dual booting thing more risky than WUBI?
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> FourFire  wubi is something inside windows, it's not independent from it
[13:48] <sk8r> kinda like a vm machine
[13:48] <cfhowlett> FourFire, nope.  much safer.  wubi files are under your windows system, so all the weaknesses of windows are in force.
[13:48] <FourFire> because I don't have a spare hard drive and I do NEED the data I have access to in windows
[13:49] <k1l_> FourFire: wubi ist the most risky.
[13:49] <nuclearbob_> is anybody here super clever with bash prompt escape sequences?
[13:49] <erdinc> Merhaba linux severler
[13:49] <njillings> FourFire: If you do it wrong, yes. If you delete your Windows Partition you'll remove Windows. Best way to create a partition is inside Windows, that way you can manage it.
[13:49] <mosx1> when I upload files via ftp to my webserver, running apache btw, they have permissions 600.
[13:49] <FourFire> I mean like something going wrong in the installation process
[13:49] <mosx1> 600 seems a bit too restrictive...is that normal ?
[13:49] <njillings> FourFire: As I said though, the Ubuntu LiveCD guides you through setting up a dual-boot
[13:49] <pagios> hello
[13:49] <cfhowlett> FourFire, wont' say it's impossible.  I would merely point out that wubi is being discontinued for dern good reason ...
[13:49] <FourFire> ok, I think I'll hold off until I make one of those then
[13:50] <pagios> how can i set a password on my console usb port?
[13:50] <FourFire> yeah I understand
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> FourFire  ubuntu is a lot easier to install than that other OS
[13:50] <pagios> when i connect usb i just go into root without supplying any password
[13:50] <FourFire> > that other OS haha
[13:50] <pagios> i would like to have the tty login
[13:50] <FourFire> which one is that?
[13:50] <njillings> FourFire: It really does hand-hold you through, and there are guides on the Ubuntu Website with screen-shots to help you create a dual-boot system
[13:51] <FourFire> ok thanks for your help
[13:51] <FourFire> I'll be back here sometime
[13:53] <sk8r> gedit can be used as html editor correct?
[13:53] <njillings> sk8r: Yep, any text editor can
[13:53] <njillings> sk8r: just remember to save with the correct extension such as .html
[13:53] <TheHackOps> sk8r, Yes it even does syntax highlighting
[13:53] <Panama> Is anyone here capable of offering assistance with a WINE issue I am having?
[13:54] <sk8r> i figured it would be easier to set it aside for that since it is used for .sh anyways so that i don't confuse it....
[13:54] <cfhowlett> !details|Panama,
[13:54] <njillings> TheHackOps: hmm, didn't realise that!
[13:55] <sk8r> njillings: going thru a class for ftnhead and i didnt want to have to bounce between a vm or another real machine.
[13:56] <TheHackOps> njillings, BlueFish is also good
[13:56] <|nv|s|b|e> I have a serious question, but, before you ask the bot to tell me to ask, i have to ask, is it safe ?
[13:56] <TheHackOps> If you want Auto-complete
[13:56] <TheHackOps> Intelisense
[13:56] <TheHackOps> Or PHP storm if you dont mind Java's lag on older machines
[13:56] <njillings> invisible: is what save...
[13:56] <xlaire> hello everyone
[13:56] <cfhowlett> xlaire, greetings
[13:56] <njillings> TheHackOps: Have used blue_fish. My personal fav at the moment is Aptana 3. Does all, JavaScript, PHP, HTML and even Ruby Apps
[13:57] <sk8r> figured it would be easier to teach myself to use what i already have so i dont have to change but still convert if necessary  to turn in.
[13:57] <TheHackOps> sk8r, Just starting html?
[13:57] <sk8r> yea.
[13:57] <TheHackOps> Dont use intelisense
[13:57] <|nv|s|b|e> I want full confidence that i wont be ostracized for asking a serious question that in it self, has the ability to upset some peoples apple carts.
[13:57] <njillings> sk8r: It depends on how much help you want. Some people (like me) like having it complete certain lines for you. If you enjoy writing out every line, and a lot do, then text editors are good.
[13:57] <xlaire> just want to sit, watch and learn
[13:57] <TheHackOps> |nv|s|b|e, go for it
[13:58] <sk8r> i used visual basic like 15 yrs ago it seems in high school but this is different
[13:58] <cfhowlett> |nv|s|b|e, we won't ostracize ... but we WILL ridicule ...
[13:58] <njillings> xlaire: always welcome
[13:58] <TheHackOps> njillings, It curbs the learning process alot
[13:58] <TheHackOps> Doesn't force you to remember things
[13:58] <njillings> sk8r: if you are learning HTML, check out http://www.w3schools.com
[13:59] <Panama> I am having a problem with getting a game to run in the resolution that is native to my monitor.  I'm running Ubuntu 12.04, with WINE version 1.5.29...  The game will run in the proper resolution, if I set it to "Emulate Desktop", however this also has intermittent issues of having the launch bar and the top bar appear over the entire game, making it so that I cannot see everything in game
[13:59] <njillings> TheHackOps: generally cuts the number of mistakes at times as well
[13:59] <|nv|s|b|e> what, pray tell is the percentage of viability does this article have.  http://techrights.org/2013/05/15/ubuntu-and-microsoft-veteran/
[13:59] <TheHackOps> Mistakes are meant ot be made
[13:59] <Criten_> Anyone here have touchscreen experiance? I can't seem to get the config file to detect the calibration
[13:59] <TheHackOps> We must break things to learn how to fix them
[13:59] <droobey_> I reinstalled Steam from the software centre still wont connect
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> |nv|s|b|e  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:59] <|nv|s|b|e> ok
[14:00] <auronandace> droobey_: there is also #ubuntu-steam
[14:00] <njillings> TheHackOps: certain mistakes… others like leaving a rogue <h1> just gets annoying!!
[14:00] <TheHackOps> njillings, WE MUST BREAK THINGS TO LEARN
[14:00] <sk8r> njillings: calsses are thru ftnhead but they based everything off winders (lol). i wanna beable to stay consistant instead of having to relearn for my machine or bounce between multiple areas
[14:00] <TheHackOps> sk8r, As someone who teaches people this stuff im telling you make as many mistakes as your can
[14:00] <TheHackOps> then fix as many as you can
[14:01] <njillings> sk8r: html is a universal language. Just learn the rules. If you make a mistake, don't give up, solve it
[14:01] <njillings> sk8r: TheHackOps speaks the truth!
[14:01] <TheHackOps> It allows critical thinking
[14:01] <sk8r> and as i understand it if you use a wysiwyg kind of editor there is exta unneeded lines in the code
[14:01] <TheHackOps> ew wysiwyg
[14:01] <sk8r> thx hackops
[14:02] <njillings> sk8r: depends what you mean by unneeded. Whitespaces are fine, even make it easy to read. Look up the source on Google, I dare you. It's just one big line
[14:02] <sk8r> just reading about it made me think wtf?
[14:02] <njillings> sk8r, TheHackOps: never used wsyiwyg for HTML so...
[14:02] <SonikkuAmerica> !wtf | sk8r
[14:02] <sk8r> sry.
[14:03] <xlaire> to avoid hand risk stop using mouse for layouting
[14:03] <sk8r> i just thought that even though is makes it easier, it fluffs the code..
[14:04] <TheHackOps> sk8r,It puts the wsiwyg designers own standards in
[14:04] <TheHackOps> join #web
[14:04] <TheHackOps> Would be more than happy to help u there
[14:04] <njillings> sk8r: yeah, keep it simple for you. If you can achieve it in one line, do that. I have seen many 'optimising' and 'time-saving' programs that do the opposite
[14:05] <TheHackOps> Im not a front end developer by job or nature, I know the spec inside out because i was interested but i can say that the best things are always the hardest
[14:06] <xlaire> hey i have host web account online and can i use terminal to connect, create file and modify file?
[14:07] <Criten_> xlaire, do you have ssh to the box?
[14:07] <njillings> xlaire: your hosting company should have sent you details. But usually it's done by shh or sftp
[14:07] <njillings> xlaire: sorry, ssh not shh!
[14:07] <xlaire> no, ssh need to pay
[14:07] <xlaire> thx guys
[14:07] <njillings> xlaire: it should have sftp though. Thats the Secure File Transfer Protocol
[14:07] <sk8r> that is what i was thinking, njillings. simplicity.
[14:07] <njillings> xlaire: so you edit on your machine, then send the file up
[14:08] <sk8r> they say you can tell who wrote a program or site just by looking at the way the code is written.
[14:08] <KidBeta> how do i redirect the output of a program so nothing gets displayed in stdout (ie terminal)
[14:08] <njillings> sk8r: it's like writing anything. You have a certain way of coding and of solving problems.
[14:09] <sk8r> njillings: like how no two ppl have the same rational thought process?
[14:09] <|nv|s|b|e> define rational
[14:10] <Panama> I am having a problem with getting a game to run in the resolution that is native to my monitor.  I'm running Ubuntu 12.04, with WINE version 1.5.29...  The game will run in the proper resolution, if I set it to "Emulate Desktop", however this also has intermittent issues of having the launch bar and the top bar appear over the entire game, making it so that I cannot see everything in game
[14:10] <sk8r> to remove emotion and make the best possible decision with positive outcomes to all parties involved if possible
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> Panama  ask in #winehq
[14:10] <|nv|s|b|e> nicely said
[14:10] <sk8r> ty
[14:12] <mosx1> does vsftpd have a umask setting ?
[14:13] <sk8r> ty all for the answers. i really just wanted verification
[14:13] <llutz> mosx1: man vsftpd.conf (anon_umask, local_umask)
[14:13] <PottyTheShitter> Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because[a] narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. Matthew 7:13-14
[14:13] <njillings> sk8r: no probs. happy HTML'ing
[14:14] <HexKey> On ubuntuserver 12.04 when i try nmcli dev i get NetworkManager is not running, how do i start it? and will it start on startup?
[14:15] <sk8r> i'll be back when i need help
[14:15] <roasted> Question - on 13.04 whenever I adjust my touchpad settings with the bottom of the 3 sliders, close, and reopen, the settings clearly don't stick. Another user duplicated this issue on a different system. Has anybody else seen this or know a way to work around it?
[14:16] <otend> how can I remove LVM data from a disk when installing Ubuntu Server 13.04?
[14:16] <otend> I want to completely format and erase the disk
[14:16] <Koma> Hi all! I'm going to need some program to deply machine and make them organized. I was wondering what is better to use puppet seems famous but chef seems  more organized (looking at the site) any first eprson experience anyone?
[14:16] <otend> but it spits out errors along the lines of THIS IS ONE PV OF SEVERAL IN AN LV.  IT IS NOT SAFE TO DELETE THE DATA.
[14:17] <francesco_> Hello. I am looking for a CD cleaner for linux. All the CD cleaners that I found have a program for Windows installed in them. Can you suggest me anything (or any alternative)?
[14:17] <hubbabubba> hi, when using apt-get upgrade, i see linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic is this the upgrade to ubuntu 13? or why are they kept back?
[14:18] <somsip> hubbabubba: you have to say you really want to install them with 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[14:18] <njillings> franceso_: do you mean something to erase CD-RWs?
[14:18] <|nv|s|b|e> kb3
[14:18] <hubbabubba> somsip: so this bring me to ubuntu 13? (i don't want that)
[14:18] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | hubbabubba no
[14:18] <francesco_> njillings, no, I mean something to clean the CD drives.
[14:18] <njillings> hubbabubba: it generally won't update the linux header files from apt-get. not sure why though. Otherwise if you load up the package update GUI, it will help
[14:19] <hubbabubba> Pici: njillings somsip thx
[14:19] <njillings> hubbabubba: dist-upgrade will upgrade your distro version
[14:19] <hubbabubba> !dist-upgrade njillings
[14:20] <xlaire> dced again
[14:20] <Pici> njillings: no it wont. see ubottu's message above.
[14:20] <francesco_> Hello. I am looking for a CD cleaner for linux. All the CD cleaners that I found have a program for Windows installed in them. Can you suggest me anything (or any alternative)?
[14:20] <njillings> pici: ah true.. thanks
[14:21] <Pici> francesco_: Whats a CD cleaner?
[14:21] <hubbabubba> Pici: njillings although that caommand is confusing... maybe dist-upgrade is not the best choice :)
[14:21] <|nv|s|b|e> fractaline-   explain (clean) you mean physically ?
[14:21] <sk8r> oh. any other sites besides w3 that would be good to look into?
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> francesco_  https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/442455-wiping-your-disk-drive-clean
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> francesco_  that what you mean?
[14:22] <hubbabubba> !upgrade
[14:22] <njillings> francesco_: AH. I see! Thought you meant CD drives. That guide is for HDDs
[14:22] <francesco_> Pici, a CD cleaner is a «special» CD that allows you to clean the device that reads the CD/DVD, when they get dirty.
[14:22] <|nv|s|b|e> lol
[14:22] <njillings> francesco_: So you want to wipe your HDD then?
[14:23] <sere> anyone know a good program to use my driod as a wireless keyboard and mouse
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> not sure what francesco_ means
[14:23] <|nv|s|b|e> he wants to physically clean the optics
[14:23] <xlaire> open your cd player and get a cottonbuds and clean it gently
[14:23] <francesco_> No, the CD cleaner that I have has some kind of a «brush» on in it, that cleans the device that reads the CD/DVD.
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> i use my shirt to clean disks
[14:24] <xlaire> then open the cd drive and let the lens read the cd cleaner
[14:24] <Raccoon1400> I am using the nvidia drivers, but I can't get it to save my monitor configuration. The nvidia settings thing saves to xorg.conf, which then gets ignored on reboot. Ideas?
[14:24] <xlaire> it will clean
[14:24] <|nv|s|b|e> it has to be non abrasive and chemical free
[14:24] <njillings> francesco_: OK, that link you gave is NOT what you are on about. Software will not clean a physical drive
[14:24] <sk8r> toothpaste will clean discs well. just be really gentle
[14:24] <xlaire> lol
[14:24] <|nv|s|b|e> i cant believe we have digressed to this
[14:24] <njillings> Raccoon1400: you change and save as sudo?
[14:24] <sk8r> lolo
[14:25] <francesco_> I already have a cd cleaner, but the software installed is for windows.
[14:25] <njillings> |nv|s|b|e: Its a fun afternoon
[14:25] <|nv|s|b|e> i c
[14:25] <xlaire> open the cd drive
[14:25] <sk8r> or morning depending on where you are
[14:25] <francesco_> What do you do when the lenses of your CD/DVD drive gets dirty?
[14:25] <xlaire> the lens will read it
[14:25] <deusAnima> How can i disable combination <alt> + ` ?
[14:25] <xlaire> and clean the lens
[14:25] <Raccoon1400> njillings: yes, I did it with the nvidia graphical utility. The file is there, too.
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> francesco_: buy a cd cleaner disk
[14:25] <njillings> francesco_: Not let it get dirty in the first place. Never in all my years have I needed to clean a drive
[14:26] <xlaire> francisco has cleaner disk
[14:26] <xlaire> he need a software to perform the clean
[14:26] <|nv|s|b|e> for what its worth, most optics are plastic nowadays, so, beware of your methods as well as any chemicals you use.
[14:27] <francesco_> xlaire, The CD cleaner is a disk with a certain software installed in it, and it also provided with a little «brush» on its surface. When you insert the CD, the software installed tells the drive to put the lens under the little «brush» to let it clean it.
[14:27] <njillings> francesco_: I don't know any Linux specific software, have you tried installing your software under WINE?
[14:27] <soulflare3> they make disk cleaners that have small bristles that can clean the eye of a CD/DVD drive, never used them tho so not sure how well they work
[14:27] <francesco_> njillings, no. I don't.
[14:27] <xlaire> but if you let the drive read the disk, it will certainly read all the parts of the cd
[14:28] <soulflare3> you can't software clean a CD/DVD drive if there are physical foreign objects on the lense ._.
[14:28] <pm_> better get new cd from vendor
[14:28] <francesco_> xlaire, yes. But it is less «efficient».
[14:28] <|nv|s|b|e> collectively, depending on your ambient humidity, a can of air can usually accommodate sufficiently.
[14:29] <njillings> soulflare3: he has a CD cleaner disk, but needs the software to actually run it
[14:29] <olivier_bK> hi
[14:29] <francesco_> xlaire, actually, the software tell the lens to go under the «brush» for a while, and then it follows a routine to establish if the lens is clean. Otherwise, it follows this procedure again.
[14:30] <olivier_bK> somebody use audacity ??
[14:30] <xlaire> i understand but i don't know any app for linux
[14:30] <olivier_bK> i've installed audacity2.0 on my ubuntu-12.10
[14:30] <soulflare3> njillings, I was not aware they actually needed software being that they can also clean CD and DVD players, that do not use software
[14:30] <olivier_bK> is missing the menu bar
[14:30] <njillings> olivier_bK: explain further
[14:30] <xlaire> you may want to search for windows version and run in wine
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> olivier_bK  i do
[14:30] <olivier_bK> ??
[14:30] <njillings> soulflare3: tbh, I never have needed to use one
[14:30] <pm_> download from torrentz
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> olivier_bK  it's in the speaker icon
[14:30] <olivier_bK>  os how did you do for export your projet
[14:31] <francesco_> Question: what would you suggest me to clean the lenses of my cd/dvd drive?
[14:31] <xlaire> for me, i suggest manually using cottonbuds
[14:32] <xlaire> open it gently wipe the lens
[14:32] <francesco_> xlaire, «rough»! :D
[14:32] <xlaire> be sure it is the drive has a defect
[14:32] <xlaire> i am stupid, let the expert answer your question, going afk
[14:32] <Pici> francesco_: This sort of has gotten offtopic for #ubuntu, ##hardware would be a better place to get an answer.
[14:32] <auronandace> francesco_: perhaps better asked in ##hardware
[14:32] <philinux> francesco_: try amazon. lots of stuff
[14:33] <pm_> remove drive from machine & give it to repair to hardware vendor
[14:33] <helmut_> hi
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> bye new drive
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> buy*
[14:33] <olivier_bK> MonkeyDust, where is the button for save the audio piste
[14:34] <francesco_> Ok. Sorry. The question was about Linux, since I would have liked to find a way to run the same application under Linux. Right now, I have a PC with a double partition, and I run the CD under Windows for that. Thank you very much.
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> olivier_bK  ah, audacity, i thought audacious, my mistake
[14:34] <soulflare3> I haven't needed them, i've just seen them
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> olivier_bK  better ask in #ubuntu-studio, i guess
[14:35] <olivier_bK> okai thanks
[14:37] <roasted> Question - on 13.04 whenever I adjust my touchpad settings with the bottom of the 3 sliders, close, and reopen, the settings clearly don't stick. Another user duplicated this issue on a different system. Has anybody else seen this or know a way to work around it?
[14:37] <Campfire> my ubuntu running slow
[14:38] <Campfire> i,m not liking it
[14:38] <Campfire> can we fix it
[14:38] <Campfire> e
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> Campfire  which version and what are you doing
[14:38] <soulflare3> francesco_, you could try something like this (I have not used this product, only using it as an example) http://www.staples.com/Staples-CD-Drive-Cleaner/product_786397
[14:38] <Campfire> 10.4
[14:38] <overdub> Campfire, what does top say is sucking down resources?
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> Campfire  10.04 is no longer valid or supported
[14:39] <francesco_> soulflare3, I can't view the product.
[14:39] <Campfire> no
[14:39] <soulflare3> hmm, let me find another
[14:40] <Campfire> ty md
[14:40] <Campfire> in a good wy
[14:40] <Campfire> way
[14:40] <soulflare3> francesco_, try this one http://amzn.com/B0007U9SRE
[14:41] <francesco_> soulflare3, I see. But is there written somewhere that it works for Linux too?
[14:41] <soulflare3> It's not OS specific
[14:42] <francesco_> soulflare3, yes, but, as far as I know, this CDs usually have a software installed in them, and, usually, this software is only for Linux. I have already a CD cleaner.
[14:43] <llutz> francesco_: none of those "cleaner CDs" really work, regardless what OS. the brushes they use will cause micro-scratches on the lens they should clean, that leads into a destroyed drive, sooner or later. in normal surroundings, cd-drives don't need to be cleaned
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> llutz: really? weird...
[14:44] <soulflare3> francesco_, You could always try getting a new DVD drive, usually they run around 20-30 USD
[14:45] <francesco_> llutz, soulflare3, I understand what you mean. First, I am talking about my laptop, and CD drives cannot be changed. Second, I have tried a CD cleaner on my PC (under Windws) and it solved the problem. I simply don't want to switch on linux all the time.
[14:46] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I backup my files on host via command line? I have ssh access to it.
[14:46] <soulflare3> CD drives can be changed on any PC, it just may require removing some screws
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  use rsync
[14:46] <dave> Hey
[14:46] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: Could you please explain it more, (I am newbie. :-P)
[14:47] <francesco_> soulflare3, perhaps it's my fault too. I should treat my laptop better. :D However, would you suggest me anything about it? Some products? Liquids?
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  rsync -a --delete /home/username /media/some_external-drive
[14:48] <soulflare3> NEVER put liquids inside your electronics
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[14:49] <llutz> francesco_: laptop cd drive, so you can reach the lens easily when drive is opened. use a cotton swab with some ethanol, let it dry completely after that, if you really think you need to clean it
[14:49] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: Ok, Thanks.
[14:49] <francesco_> soulflare3, don't put liquids on your PC, don't eat, don't breath, don't speak, ... :D
[14:49] <cotton> hah, i'm like "who mentioned me?"
[14:49] <overdub> and NEVER use the --delete switch to rsync unless you're sure you've typed the right command
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  you can rsync over ssh
[14:50] <francesco_> llutz, this scares me a little. But I will try.
[14:50] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: Thanks a million
[14:50] <francesco_> :D
[14:51] <llutz> francesco_: don't use too much ethanol, the cotton should just be damp not dripping wet
[14:52] <cotton> i prefer dry thanks
[14:52] <soulflare3> lol
[14:52] <francesco_> llutz, can I use just ordinary alchool? Where can I find ethanol?
[14:53] <llutz> francesco_: i wouldn't use anything than ethanol, get it from next pharmacy. should be easy if you aren't living in scandinavia
[14:53] <francesco_> Just in a normal pharmacy?
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> or drugstore
[14:54] <llutz> francesco_: try it, ask for it
[14:54] <francesco_> This reminds me when I wanted to make a cloud chamber. :)
[14:54] <francesco_> llutz, ok. Thank you very much.
[14:56] <alireza_> james
[14:56] <moinul> help
[14:56] <SonikkuAmerica> !help | moinul
[14:57] <sere> steam on linux natively :)
[14:58] <moinul> how to join a specific IRC server?
[14:58] <realgpp> !patience
[14:59] <moinul> how to join a specific IRC server?
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> moinul  type /join #channelname
[14:59] <xlaire> moinul, /server then servername
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> ah server, type /connect servername
[14:59] <moinul> lets try
[15:00] <sere> is the software-center repos different than synaptics? steam is only on software-center it seems?
[15:00] <deusAnima> How can i disable combination <alt> + grave ?
[15:01] <SonikkuAmerica> deusAnima: Is it just one Alt key that uses it?
[15:01] <moinul> Thank you for the help :)
[15:01] <iBelieve> sere: Software Center also shows commercially available applications
[15:01] <deusAnima> SonikkuAmerica I think yes
[15:02] <moinul> Thanks xlaire :)
[15:02] <SonikkuAmerica> deusAnima: System Settings > Keyboard Layout and click the + near the bottom.
[15:03] <iBelieve> sere, Commercial apps aren't in the regular repositories, Software Center handles them specially. That is probably why steam doesn't show up in Synaptics.
[15:03] <deusAnima> SonikkuAmerica it will add new layout. or I dont understand you
[15:04] <sere> iBelieve: ahh ok. thanks alot
[15:04] <iBelieve> sere, you're welcome
[15:04] <SonikkuAmerica> deusAnima: Right. One Alt key in your layout controls all the international dead-key shortcuts. That's what the whole layout hinges on.
[15:06] <deusAnima> SonikkuAmerica, I want to delete this shortcut. because it overrides same shortcut in Midnight Commander
[15:07] <deusAnima> but I can't find this shortcut in system anywhere
[15:07] <SonikkuAmerica> AFAIK the shortcut keys aren't customizable.
[15:07] <deusAnima> :(
[15:09] <Dresk|Laptop> So I have an installation of Ubuntu (12.04.2) that was given to me with a custom version of CUPS built and installed (1.4.6) but without the source directory for CUPS anymore, so I don't have a makefile for uninstallation, nor is there any dpkg for it.  I want to install CUPS via Ubuntu's software manager at this point, but I'm uncertain how to proceed with this "dangling" older version that has no proper uninstallation
[15:09] <K4k> Could someone help me out and take a look at my preseed file (https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5588337) and help me figure out why I get unmet dependency errors during install for xserver-xorg-video-all?
[15:14] <nyRednek> ok, i have a hp psc that is connected to wifi router. i can print to it, but not scan...on another ubuntu install, i can do both
[15:16] <nyRednek> what can i try to make this work?
[15:16] <salimander_kane> using vpn internet speed is only ~20Mbps without its ~50. I'm using it on TCP port 443 as UDP wont connect. Is there anyway to increase the speed?
[15:17] <salimander_kane> I'm using openvpn
[15:17] <K4k> salimander_kane: probably a limitation of the connection to your vpn provider
[15:18] <salimander_kane> K4k: no some people can get ~70 with the server i'm using
[15:18] <salimander_kane> could it be that im using TCP??
[15:19] <K4k> TCP does have more network overhead, but it shouldn't cause a ~30Mbps drop off
[15:19] <K4k> Are you using different compression?
[15:20] <salimander_kane> LZO as reccomended
[15:20] <thecodeischaos> how stable is dwm on ubuntu?
[15:20] <K4k> Might try switching that to something else if you can and see if anything changes. Other than that, as a client, I'm not aware of much you can do.
[15:21] <salimander_kane> K4k: all i can do is switch it off. Hold on I'll give that a go
[15:22] <majd> Hey #ubuntu - i'm trying to install mysql-python on my ubuntu10.04 machine. I get the error: http://dpaste.org/0S5UF/
[15:23] <majd> and yes, i did install python-dev
[15:23] <majd> and i still get the same error
[15:25] <salamander_kane> K4k: no that didn't work at all. I was gettin ~0.2Kbps with LZO disable
[15:26] <salamander_kane> K4k: different TCP port maybe? Any reccomendations?
[15:27] <Aaruni> can this guide be used for ubuntu precise also? : https://ffmpeg.org/trac/ffmpeg/wiki/UbuntuCompilationGuide
[15:30] <troulouliou_dev> hi what is the name of the windows manager used in ubuntu ?
[15:31] <njillings> troululiou_dev: Unity
[15:31] <buengenio> how do i re-enable GLX on XOrg and also add the option to disable the touchpad while typing? I have a Synaptic touch pad...
[15:31] <njillings> troulouliou_dev> Unity
[15:32] <troulouliou_dev> njillings, this is the desktop manager; but the windows manager ? mutter / muffin / metascity .. ?
[15:32] <njillings> troulouliou_dev> Ah OK, thought you meant desktop manager. Don't know, sorry
[15:32] <SuperLag> on Slowaris... I have gz{cat,less,grep}... does Linux have these too? and if so, what package has them?
[15:33] <d3vlabs> quick question
[15:33] <d3vlabs> can i install the latest ubtuntu 13.x on a cpu that doesnt support PAE
[15:34] <llutz> !info zutils | SuperLag:
[15:35] <SuperLag> llutz: thank you, sir
[15:35] <Aaruni> can this guide be used for ubuntu precise also? : https://ffmpeg.org/trac/ffmpeg/wiki/UbuntuCompilationGuide (repost 1)
[15:35] <njillings> d3vlabs> this guy seemed to solve it. 5 min google search: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2133887
[15:36] <maui> how do i delete items ,just by dragging to the bin?!
[15:36] <BluesKaj> d3vlabs, http://askubuntu.com/questions/117744/how-can-i-install-on-a-non-pae-cpu-error-kernel-requires-features-not-present
[15:36] <Aaruni> maui: you can also select the icons, and then press the delete key, or Shift + delete to permanantly delete them
[15:37] <njillings> maui: depends what you are deleting. Files? Drag and drop to place in trash. Not deleted. Aaruni is right for a permanent delete. Can also be achieved by emptying the recycle bin
[15:37] <llutz> SuperLag: remember, those tools are named "z{less,grep,cat}" not gz*
[15:37] <maui> in windows im used to click right and pick 'delete'
[15:38] <maui> how come ubuntu does not give this option, since i do get a 'dialog' box when i right-click
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> maui: you can do that, it's called 'move to rubbish bin'
[15:38] <Aaruni> maui: that would just move them to the trash.
[15:38] <njillings> maui: use the delete key, or use 'Move to rubbish bin'
[15:38] <Aaruni> it won't delete, or free up space
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> maui: ive seen issues with right click on some files, is it ok if you run nautilus and access the desktop folder therin?
[15:38] <njillings> maui: remember to empty to trash, same as you need to in Windows
[15:39] <maui> yes,
[15:39] <maui> heh
[15:39] <maui> 'move to trash'
[15:39] <maui> i think im blind or somethign
[15:39] <larusx> who
[15:39] <llutz_> ho
[15:40] <salamander_kane> K4k:???
[15:41] <nyRednek> open up terminal and type rm <file>
[15:41] <Aaruni> or rm -r <folder>
[15:41] <nyRednek> Aaruni: that also works
[15:41] <nyRednek> Aaruni: rm -f for the stubborn files
[15:42] <salamander_kane> can somebody help with openVPN. When connected to VPN speed is ~20Mbps, not connected its ~50. Using TCP port 443
[15:42] <Aaruni> nyRednek: you need to specify -r to remove directories
[15:42] <njillings> salamander_kane: very unlikely to not get a speed drop using VPN. You are forcing further routing and encryption. Both of which lower overall data rates
[15:43] <nyRednek> Aaruni: only if the directory isn't empty
[15:43] <nyRednek> Aaruni: an empty directory can be rm'ed without -r
[15:43] <llutz> nyRednek: it can't
[15:43] <njillings> salamander_kane: how far is your openVPN connection?
[15:43] <llutz> nyRednek: rm -r dir, or rmdir dir (if its empty)
[15:44] <nyRednek> llutz: well, used to be...meh, i'm old and confused
[15:44] <llutz> nyRednek: it never was
[15:44] <nyRednek> again, second part of the statement
[15:44] <salamander_kane> njillings: ~400miles
[15:45] <salamander_kane> njillings: thats the closest server to me
[15:49] <SuperLag> llutz: yep, once you mentioned the name... I looked further and saw that.
[15:49] <SuperLag> llutz: thank you, again :)
[15:50] <SuperLag> nyRednek: how old are you? :)
[15:51] <uvala> hello, clawsmail is behaving strangely. first it didnt download emails, saying login details dont match (while they havent been changed). in the second trial failed again, this time returning timeout :995 error..in the third trial downloaded only some of new emails. and in the last trial a minute ago, the most horrific error came: Authentication failed:ERR [IN-USE] This account is being used by another session. Please try again in a
[15:51] <uvala> few minutes...noone I know is using my account right now..HELP! _)
[15:51] <salamander_kane_> njillings: sorry connection died
[15:51] <larusx> ~/who
[15:52] <nyRednek> SuperLag: not that old...mid 30s
[15:52] <SuperLag> nyRednek: you're young, then :)
[15:52] <llutz> hrhr, youngster
[15:52] <njillings> salamander_kane> no worries, did you get my last message?
[15:52] <nyRednek> SuperLag: have had three strokes since i turned 30, though, so that's my excuse :P
[15:53] <salamander_kane_> njillings: no only the first
[15:53] <njillings> Also if this is a public server, I doubt it can forward that much bandwidth to you anyway, so that's a bottleneck. If your connection starts spanning countries the number of links and alternative routes becomes excessively limited. That's why visiting overseas websites being hosted overseas are slower\
[15:54] <uvala> I must add that these errors came for different accounts added to clawsmail
[15:54] <salamander_kane_> njillings: no its private i think. and rated at 32000Mpbs so should be capable
[15:55] <njillings> salamander_kane> hmm, there may be something wrong but I don't manage VPN's, just use them so I can't aid in debugging the issue.
[15:56] <SuperLag> nyRednek: damn! Okay. You get compassion from me.
[15:56] <njillings> salamander_kane> still I think it's unlikely it would be able to give you 50Mbps of link! Bottlenecks exist outside raw bandwidth such as latency which is derived from distance
[15:56] <salamander_kane_> njillings: im using TCP port 443 if that helps. Would changing port help? I can't connect to UDP
[15:57] <BlueShark> Hi
[15:57] <BlueShark> ubottu: openvpn
[15:58] <nyRednek> SuperLag: no need for compassion...i just say, "i'm old and confused, LEAVE ME LONE"
[15:58] <njillings> salamander_kane> it could help but you need one that your server will operate on as well as your router can open
[16:00] <delac> audigy2 is not detected (not listed by either alsamixer or pulseaudio) even after several reboots, only hdmi audio shows? how to fix?
[16:01] <njillings> delac> did you look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1750858
[16:03] <Trieste> Hi, I can't log into my Ubuntu One account, error "Authentication failed: OpenID authentication failed: Bad signature"
[16:04] <megha> do vmware, kvm, qemu works flawlessly with ubuntu ?
[16:04] <megha> because in arch linux i am fed up of config things after each kernel upgrade.. :(
[16:05] <megha> is that the case with ubuntu too ?
[16:05] <njillings> megha> do you mean to host a vm on Ubuntu, or run Ubuntu in a vm?
[16:05] <megha> host a vm on ubuntu...
[16:06] <salamander_kane_> njillings: ok thanks dude
[16:06] <njillings> megha> sorry haven't had any experience there
[16:06] <muhammadbilal> hi
[16:06] <megha> njillings: np :)
[16:07] <muhammadbilal> hi megha
[16:07] <megha> hi :)
[16:07] <muhammadbilal> hows ya?
[16:09] <wallzero> Hey, folks. Is it possible to have a SecureBoot work with a LUKS partition?
[16:10] <delac> njillings: thanks. I gues my problem is something more profound, as the card doesnt seem to be recognized in any of the logs etc...
[16:11] <cryptoe> i removed some classpath enteries form  /etc/bash.bashrc file  did a source /etc/bash.bashrc  but still in the env is see the entries Am i missing something here?
[16:12] <squig> is there a pack of different themes available for gnome3 fallback for 12.04?
[16:13] <tgm4883> !torrents
[16:14] <mrwappieblunt> good evening
[16:15] <TaylerKing> guys
[16:15] <TaylerKing> I need help
[16:15] <TaylerKing> could somebody help me?
[16:15] <oye> !help
[16:15] <utfans05> !ask | TaylerKing
[16:15]  * tgm4883 pulls out his crystal ball
[16:16] <TaylerKing> Guys, when trying to upgrade from 12.04 LTS to 13.04, I get "dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 18332 package 'libgnutls-openssl27':  `Pre-Depends' field, invalid package name `multi!rch-support': character `!' not allowed (only letters, digits and characters `-+._') E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)"
[16:16] <SwedeMike> TaylerKing: how are you upgrading?
[16:17] <TaylerKing> terminal
[16:17] <TaylerKing> and I have tried with the update manager
[16:17] <SwedeMike> TaylerKing: upgrade path is 12.04->12.10->13.04, not 12.04->13.04
[16:17] <TaylerKing> ahh, how do I upgrade to 12.10
[16:17] <TaylerKing> I done sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[16:18] <tgm4883> TaylerKing, don't use -d
[16:18] <TaylerKing> okay
[16:18] <tgm4883> seriously, I wish we could scrub that from the internet
[16:18] <TaylerKing> sudo do-release-upgrade doesnt work
[16:18] <TaylerKing> it says No new release found
[16:18] <TaylerKing> so if I am being a pain in the ass
[16:18] <tgm4883> TaylerKing, are you fully up to date on 12.04?
[16:19] <SwedeMike> TaylerKing: you have to reconfigiure software-manager (or wahatever it's called) to not only look for LTS releases.
[16:19] <TaylerKing> okay, gimmie a second
[16:19] <tgm4883> SwedeMike, +1, I had forgotten that
[16:19] <TaylerKing> lol, I just moved from windows to ubuntu.. like this better so far
[16:20] <TaylerKing> urgggh, now I get Software index is broken  It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[16:20] <TaylerKing> lemme do some updates and I will get back to you. Thanks
[16:20]  * TaylerKing is afk *
[16:20]  * TaylerKing is no longer afk *
[16:20] <TaylerKing> I am getting the multi!rch error again
[16:21] <tgm4883> Yea thats odd
[16:21] <TaylerKing> dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 18332 package 'libgnutls-openssl27':  `Pre-Depends' field, invalid package name `multi!rch-support': character `!' not allowed (only letters, digits and characters `-+._') E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[16:21] <TaylerKing> I cannot find any solutions
[16:21] <TaylerKing> I might have to go back to windows :(
[16:21] <tgm4883> TaylerKing, seriously....
[16:22] <utfans05> TaylerKing: just back up what you want to save and do a fresh 13.04 install if youw ant it
[16:22] <oye> Trial and error, it's how we all learn. In my linux newbie days, I was reinstalling the OS every three days.
[16:22] <TaylerKing> Whenever I open Update manager I get "Not all updates can be installed Run a partial upgrade, to insall as many updates as possible"
[16:22] <roasted> Question - on 13.04 whenever I adjust my touchpad settings with the bottom of the 3 sliders, close, and reopen, the settings clearly don't stick. Another user duplicated this issue on a different system. Has anybody else seen this or know a way to work around it?
[16:22] <sawjig> TaylerKing, lol what
[16:23] <th0r> oye, and my mentor kept screaming..."You don't reinstall linux...you FIX linux" <smile>
[16:23] <BobJonkman1> TaylerKing: At worst, you may have to re-install instead of upgrading. You'll be able to preserve you /home folder (which should contain most of you configuration data, unlike the Windows registry)
[16:23] <oye> TaylerKing: Most likely you can't do nothing, as you're stuck in a kafkian dependency hell mess that has no way back. It's recommended a back up of your important data, and then proceed to a clean install of the distro and version of your wish.
[16:23] <thecodeischaos> i remember testing lots of linux distros years ago.... i ended up sticking with redhat...and now i use ubuntustudio
[16:23] <sawjig> erp oye is who I meant to lol what at. I cannot understand how you would have to reinstall all the time.
[16:23] <tgm4883> TaylerKing, what is the output of 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[16:23] <TaylerKing> that doesnt work either
[16:23] <TaylerKing> I tried it with the flag -f
[16:23] <sawjig> Were you like rm -rf / or something?
[16:23] <tgm4883> TaylerKing, no, I asked what the output of it is
[16:24] <TaylerKing> ok, lemme check again
[16:24] <oye> sawjig: I was trying this and that, and more than one distribution. When I play, I play fo' real! :-)
[16:24] <tgm4883> TaylerKing, or does it not list what packages are suppose to be installed
[16:24] <TaylerKing> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[16:24] <tgm4883> oye, a reinstallation seems unnecessary.
[16:25] <sawjig> oye, must not have had to get any work done installing a new distro every three days :P
[16:25] <TaylerKing> The thing is, I got alot of school and I am a web dev. I am not the best at programming on computers lol
[16:25] <oye> tgm4883: Seeing the last, I agree. :-)
[16:25] <utfans05> TaylerKing: did you do that as sudo?
[16:25] <TaylerKing> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? What should I do now?
[16:25] <TaylerKing> ye
[16:25] <oye> tgm4883: I was young, much younger than now. :-)
[16:25] <TaylerKing> I am 11 lol
[16:25] <oye> Err, meant for sawjig.
[16:26] <utfans05> TaylerKing: are you doing something with apt-get already? cause thats typically what that means
[16:26] <tgm4883> TaylerKing, Do you still have the graphical updater open?
[16:26] <TaylerKing> Nope
[16:26] <TaylerKing> I aint got shit open
[16:26] <TaylerKing> only chromium and terminal
[16:26] <tgm4883> and you ran that command with sudo?
[16:26] <TaylerKing> ye
[16:26] <tgm4883> hmm
[16:27] <tgm4883> something thinks it's currently locked
[16:27] <TaylerKing> and then I tried sudo -s and then apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:27] <sawjig> should search processes real quick
[16:27] <h00k> TaylerKing: keep the language clean, please :)
[16:27] <TaylerKing> but that didint work either
[16:27] <utfans05> im thinking he needs to reboot and free up apt-get
[16:27] <TaylerKing> sorry
[16:27] <sawjig> make sure it's not still running.
[16:27] <tgm4883> utfans05, +1
[16:27] <TaylerKing> I tried
[16:27] <TaylerKing> that
[16:27] <TaylerKing> I have had this problem last 2 days
[16:27] <TaylerKing> so I came here
[16:28] <utfans05> TaylerKing: go ahead and reboot, even if you have, do it again, then only run sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade then post the output here using pastebin
[16:28] <utfans05> !pastebin | TaylerKing
[16:28] <TaylerKing> err "The package system is broken"
[16:28] <bugtraq> hello
[16:28] <TaylerKing> okay, lemme restart in a minute
[16:28] <bugtraq> do you speak spanish?
[16:29] <TaylerKing> brb
[16:29] <utfans05> !es
[16:29] <Ari-Yang> !jpn
[16:29] <imgx64> When I boot the live disk, the splash screen shows "<keyboard> equals <man in circle>". What does that mean? I'm just curious.
[16:29] <utfans05> !jap
[16:30] <tgm4883> !jp
[16:30] <utfans05> there it is
[16:30] <costales>  /ignore #ubuntu* -ALL +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS
[16:30] <utfans05> lol
[16:30] <vanishing> kvothetech: hey..i finally compiled it! turns out its a bug
[16:30] <tgm4883> 2 letter country codes
[16:30] <utfans05> oh ok
[16:30] <utfans05> TIL #ubuntu uses 2 letter country codes :D
[16:31] <Prock81> with out encrypting home folder because its a family pc and they want auto login, and everyone is to use same settings, but also actual encryption is needed cause there is sensitive info that should be protected against theft... What could be used to lock/encrypt a Folder sitting on the desktop or where ever... with a different pass than the user account?
[16:31] <tgm4883> Prock81, truecrypt
[16:31] <usr13> TaylerKing: Just got here, but scrolling up I see that you were "trying to upgrade from 12.04 LTS to 13.04".  How do you skip 12.10?
[16:31] <Prock81> can u tell me more about it
[16:31] <tgm4883> !info truecrypt
[16:31] <vanishing> Prock81: you will love this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FolderEncryption
[16:32] <utfans05> usr13 you cant, you have to go through each one
[16:32] <tgm4883> Prock81, sure  http://www.truecrypt.org/
[16:32] <usr13> Taylor: Did you do a fresh install?'
[16:32] <utfans05> he logged off
[16:32] <utfans05> restarting
[16:33] <Ari-Yang> user82, you can't upgrade to 13.04 if you're on a LTS release. Though I might be wrong, I think you /can/ actually run a command in terminal for it to check updates of new ubuntu versions. You should google that. If that's the case, you might have to upgrade to 12.10 then 13.04, I know that one can't update from 12.10 to 13.10 (when it officially becomes released).
[16:33] <tgm4883> usr13, my guess is that either A) He didn't know he was actually upgrading to 12.10, or B) using the -d option does something funky
[16:33] <usr13> Sorry Taylor That was for TaylerKing
[16:33] <Ari-Yang> oh...
[16:33] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: you can upgrade from LTS to any version I think
[16:33] <jrib> Ari-Yang: right, you /can/ upgrade, but you need to go through the releases in between
[16:33] <Ari-Yang> yeah but you have to run a command
[16:34] <usr13> tgm4883: I don't know about the -d option.  What is that?
[16:34] <tgm4883> usr13, it's specifically to upgrade to the "development" release
[16:34] <tgm4883> usr13, which is why people shouldn't be using it
[16:34] <jrib> Ari-Yang: one can just use update-manager.  But by default it will only check for LTS releases.  One needs to configure the option to check for all releases.  There should be no need to use -d
[16:34] <vanishing> usr13: usr13 you can find out the command with "man" or simple add --help
[16:34] <vanishing> parameter*
[16:34] <Ari-Yang> jrib, ah I see.
[16:35] <Ari-Yang> well when I see 13.04 becomes more stable than it already is, I'll upgrade to it with software-updater. I'm on 12.10.
[16:35] <usr13> vanishing: What command?  do-release-upgrade?
[16:35] <platzhirsch1> I have all my media files (Pictures, Music, Videos) on another disk. Am I safe by just replacing the /home/user/music,pictures,videos folder by a symlink? Seems to work, just curious
[16:35] <vanishing> usr13: whichever command you are trying to use..
[16:36] <vanishing> for example, if you are trying to use "cut" and you are unsure what -d means
[16:36] <vanishing> usr13: simply do man cut or cut --help
[16:36] <mibofra> hi guys
[16:37] <roasted> Question - on 13.04 whenever I adjust my touchpad settings with the bottom of the 3 sliders, close, and reopen, the settings clearly don't stick. Another user duplicated this issue on a different system. Has anybody else seen this or know a way to work around it?
[16:37] <mibofra> why online accounts uses firefox instead of the integrated api to authenticate in facebook?
[16:37] <mibofra> (ubuntu 13.10 dev branch)
[16:37] <usr13> tgm4883: I thoug you would just change edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  and change Prompt=lts to Prmpt=normal.
[16:38] <th0r> roasted, a workaround...set the values using synclient. you can add a command line to bashrc so those settings are set at logon
[16:38] <tgm4883> usr13, yes that should be the correct way to do it (or graphically)
[16:38] <mibofra> oh sorry I'll write in #ubuntu+1
[16:38] <usr13> vanishing: I'm not trying to use a command, I'm trying to figure out what TaylorKing's problem is.
[16:38] <usr13> tgm4883: Agreed.
[16:39] <tgm4883> usr13, but people post how to do it prior to release, then people google how to upgrade and see the -d option. The issue is people blindly run commands they find on the internet
[16:39] <tgm4883> usr13, a really, really STUPID thing to do
[16:39] <roasted> th0r: I tried using synclient, but when I do that it also makes my usb mouse absolutely crazy. I switch between the touchpad and usb mouse quite often.
[16:39] <elijah_> my ubuntu freezes up when it try's to goto lock screen, can someone help?
[16:41] <Ari-Yang> elijah_, what version?
[16:41] <usr13> vanishing: Thanks for the info, (it's good to let folks no how to easily find information about commands).
[16:41] <elijah_> 13.04
[16:41] <vanishing> usr13: :D
[16:42] <usr13> elijah_: You might trun off the lock option, or just turn off screensaver.
[16:42] <elijah_> how to turn off screen saver?
[16:42] <elijah_> new to linux
[16:43] <elijah_> my brother just installed this for me last night, got rid of windows.
[16:43] <Prock81> cryptkeeper will work in 13.04?
[16:43] <vanishing> elijah_: easiest option is to go system settings and brightness and lock
[16:44] <Prock81> i ask cause i look at the reviews in the software center
[16:44] <vanishing> Prock81: check this out
[16:44] <vanishing> Prock81: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FolderEncryption
[16:44] <usr13> elijah_: Depends on what Desktop Environment you use.
[16:44] <Prock81> k'
[16:44] <infexion> elijah: Up on the top of the screen go to system -> preferences -> screensaver if you are using gnome
[16:44] <elijah_> ubuntu 13.04
[16:45] <usr13> elijah_: In unity, click Dashboard icon and stype screensaver
[16:45] <infexion> ^^
[16:45] <usr13> elijah_: (... or something like that).
[16:45] <usr13> *type
[16:46] <elijah_> when I type it nothing shows up
[16:47] <vanishing> elijah_: try system settings
[16:47] <elijah_> k
[16:47] <jebemmajku> hi how to set the windows to owerlap panels beacuse i am using awn dock in bootom and when i open some apps thet are over all screen i cant poing on down corner of it to resize it?
[16:47] <mcbass> hello ! everybody
[16:48] <CookieM> hello mcbass
[16:48] <vanishing> jebemmajku: don't understand the question.
[16:49] <mcbass> hi! CookieM that's my first time here
[16:50] <CookieM> it's always somebody's first time
[16:50] <jebemmajku> when i open an ap example text editor and it is streched by defoult like it is maxmized i can point on down corener of it beacuse my awn dock owerlaps it
[16:50] <utfans05> that upgrade guy come back yet?
[16:50] <mcbass> yep! you're right
[16:50] <usr13> utfans05: Don't think so...
[16:51] <utfans05> usr13: ok, im just waiting to hear from him.
[16:51] <usr13> utfans05: (He said brb but you know how those b-backers are.... :)
[16:51] <vanishing> jebemmajku: oh man...reading this makes my head hurt...
[16:51] <vanishing> jebemmajku: if your problem is what i think it is
[16:51] <jebemmajku> vanishing:  yes?
[16:51] <vanishing> you can right click on awn and go to preferences
[16:52] <vanishing> and choose a autohide mode
[16:52] <jebemmajku> vanishing:  just to know i dont want to set it to autohide
[16:52] <jebemmajku> hahahah
[16:52] <vanishing> jebemmajku: if it does not hide, then it will always be in the way..
[16:52] <vanishing> which I think is the problem you are trying to solve...right?
[16:53] <jebemmajku> vanishing:  no on kubuntu ther is a option to set what hes higher priority
[16:53] <usr13> jebemmajku: Can you elaborate/clarify?
[16:53] <vanishing> usr13: im confused now..
[16:54] <usr13> jebemmajku: So am I.  But you sai,  "i can point on down corener of it beacuse my awn dock owerlaps it" can you elaborate on it just a bit?
[16:54] <vanishing> Prock81: btw, does that page solve your problem...:D
[16:54] <usr13> *said not sai
[16:54] <vanishing> a screenshot can be very helpful
[16:54] <usr13> vanishing: good point.
[16:55] <usr13> !paste | jebemmajku
[16:55] <Prock81> was still working with encfs ~/HideMe ~/SeeMe as a test before i tell my friend, ive convinced him to switch to linux
[16:55] <jebemmajku> usr13:  in kubuntu ther is a option to set the priority of windows so if i maxmize windows it will go ower awn dock and i can clik on the window insted hire i cant beacuse awn dock goes ower it
[16:55] <usr13> jebemmajku: *(a picture is worth alotta words)*
[16:55] <vanishing> Prock81: it works perfectly, trust me..:D
[16:56] <Prock81> ill look at both, he will will want GUI for it
[16:56] <usr13> jebemmajku: If you right click on the bar at top of a window, do you get "Always on top" option?
[16:56] <vanishing> Prock81: there is actually a gui thingy for encfs
[16:56] <vanishing> its an indicator
[16:56] <vanishing> let me dig it up for you
[16:56] <Prock81> i read in the revies in 13.04 the gui dont work for it
[16:57] <vanishing> hmm..let me grab that and test for you...
[16:59] <vanishing> Prock81: should work..
[16:59] <Prock81> but u have to start it be command line first? then load gui?
[16:59] <vanishing> Prock81: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/cryptfolder-indicator-ubuntu.html
[17:00] <vanishing> Prock81: no..its an indicator
[17:00] <Prock81> cause when i run cryptkeeper i get a lock icon in hte launcher but it does nothing
[17:00] <vanishing> Prock81: oh..im not talking about cryptkeeper
[17:00] <vanishing> Prock81: im talking about encfs with cryptfolder-indicator
[17:01] <Prock81> so both use encfs?
[17:01] <vanishing> Prock81: im not familiar with cryptkeeper
[17:02] <vanishing> Prock81: you can see cryptfolder-indicator as a front-end for encfs
[17:02] <Prock81> hay another question one of his drives is going bad so he wanted to move all that stuff currently crypted with a windows program....
[17:03] <Prock81> and while in linux i moved some of hte crypted files to usb then go back to windows to see if it can unlock it and it complane....
[17:04] <vanishing> Prock81: yea..you can't do that im afraid..
[17:04] <Prock81> with the encfs can it be moved around as being locked and unlocked later on a different medium?
[17:04] <vanishing> Prock81: yes
[17:04] <Prock81> sweet he will really love that
[17:05] <Prock81> cryptfolder-indicator not in software center
[17:06] <vanishing> Prock81: did you read through the link i gave you?
[17:06] <Prock81> about to
[17:06] <savio> Hello everyone
[17:06] <vanishing> you have to add a ppa
[17:07] <uvala> while there is no change in any of my mail accounts' configurations, mails cannot be downloaded for errors like timeout:995, login incorrect, another session is open etc.
[17:07] <uvala> I am using clawsmail
[17:10] <Prock81> encfs what is better block or stream
[17:15] <boggle> UpdateManagerWarningForUnity3D when upgrading 12.04 --> 12.10 on Lenovo ideapad U410 -- http://pastebin.com/tTj6azQv
[17:15] <shafox> i have installed lubuntu 12.04 32bit. it isnt letting me to connect to the home wifi. it was working good while installing bt after restart its nt taking the password says auth failed what to do ??
[17:17] <Ari-Yang> shafox using proprietary wifi driver? if you aren't try that perhaps?
[17:17] <savio> shafox: did you set correct encryption option while configuring your WiFi access point
[17:18] <A1Recon> Is there a command to update google-earth??
[17:18] <vanishing> A1Recon: depends on how you installed it originally
[17:18] <shafox> Ari-Yang: i am on compaq laptop it has intel pro 100 wireless
[17:18] <shafox> savio: i didnt config anything
[17:18] <A1Recon> vanishing: deb file from its site
[17:19] <vanishing> A1Recon: that way I'm afraid you will have to download the deb manually and install again
[17:19] <vanishing> A1Recon: but there is a google ppa I remember
[17:19] <Ari-Yang> shafox, see how I'm usin gthe wifi proprietary driver (Broadcam 802) http://gyazo.com/bbcb6b1dba1a4cb5a63ee30dcfb7b692
[17:19] <A1Recon> vanishing: BTW how does it differ if i installed it one way or the other ??
[17:20] <A1Recon> vanishing: and why does it differ?
[17:20] <vanishing> A1Recon: if you installed through the google ppa, you can use apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to upgrade packages
[17:20] <shafox> Ari-Yang: what am i looking for ?
[17:20] <savio> shafox: while configuring WiFi access point in network manager check encryption setting I.e WEP WAP etc
[17:21] <Ari-Yang> shafox, just go to software sources, go to 'additional drivers' see if you have proprietary wifi drivers.
[17:21] <savio> shafox: also check if propritery driver is available to you
[17:22] <shafox> savio: there is no network manager in lubuntu
[17:22] <Prock81> im just still looking at options, what is there difference from dm-crypt vs encfs
[17:23] <shafox> Ari-Yang: where to find the source?? source.list ??
[17:23] <Ari-Yang> shafox, if you're on lubuntu I suggest you join the channel #lubuntu and ask there.
[17:23] <shafox> Ok
[17:23] <Ari-Yang> good luck
[17:25] <shafox> Anyone around here knows lubuntu ?
[17:25] <oal> I installed a mail server (iRedMail), and it asked me to set a FQDN as my hostname. I did, but not permanently. Now after a reboot, everything works fine, but my hostname is just "mail" as before. Is there any disadvantages to not using a FQDN hostname?
[17:27] <drkphoenix> it does not reconize my internal wireless chip
[17:27] <A1Recon> Does anyone know why the partitions for my data storage (on another HDD) interchange their names between "New Volume" and New Volume1" ?
[17:30] <savio> oal:  I don't think that it will effect your operation but for DNS server FQDN is required to resolve your name server
[17:30] <savio> Sorry mail server
[17:31] <A1Recon> Does anyone know why the partitions for my data storage (on another HDD) interchange their names between "New Volume" and New Volume1" ?
[17:31] <oal> savio, thanks. I use CloudFlare for DNS, nothing on my server.
[17:32] <oal> savio, so I should be good just using "mail" as my hostname then?
[17:32] <vanishing> A1Recon: you can change their name using gparted
[17:33] <maui> i have vlc and codecs but this doest play
[17:33] <maui> http://www.ahistoryofeurope.eu/A_History_of_Europe/Entries/2011/10/20_1._AD_312-390__Constantinian_Revolution.html
[17:33] <drkphoenix> is there anyway to fix the computer not recognizing the wireless chip it is a 802.11 b/g broadcom bcm4311
[17:34] <savio> oal:  http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fully_qualified_domain_name
[17:34] <drkphoenix> is there anyway to fix the computer not recognizing the wireless chip it is a 802.11 b/g broadcom bcm4311
[17:34] <swiss> drkphoenix: lspci -k
[17:34] <savio> oal: it will not affect your mail server operation
[17:34] <swiss> pastebin the output
[17:35] <oal> savio, great. I'll read that article too. :-)
[17:35] <swiss> oal: do hostname -f
[17:35] <swiss> does that read your full hostname? or the short one
[17:35] <drkphoenix> then what swiss
[17:35] <oal> swiss, it just says localhost
[17:35] <swiss> drkphoenix: pastebin the output
[17:35] <A1Recon> vanishing: K
[17:35] <vanishing> drkphoenix: give him the link to the pastbin
[17:35] <vanishing> pastebin*
[17:35] <maui> hello?
[17:36] <drkphoenix> link?
[17:36] <swiss> oal: ah, i was wondering if it had just changed ti there. What does /etc/mailname say?
[17:36] <swiss> drkphoenix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:36] <drkphoenix> what do i do here
[17:36] <swiss> put the output of lspci -k
[17:36] <oal> swiss, that file contains my domain name
[17:37] <swiss> oal: the full one? that's what your mail server reads as the fqdn
[17:37] <swiss> :)
[17:37] <drkphoenix> i cant
[17:37] <swiss> drkphoenix: why not?
[17:37] <drkphoenix> i am not on the computer having the problems
[17:37] <mah454> Hello
[17:37] <drkphoenix> talking to you
[17:37] <swiss> drkphoenix: i can't help you much if I can't get debugging output
[17:37] <oal> swiss, ok, good. What if I want to set up mail on several domains, will it still use that domain as a "base" domain, or do I add more to that file?
[17:38] <drkphoenix> so i have to manually copoy all of what came up then?
[17:38] <bergelmir> will ~/.dpkg.cfg extend or replace my /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg? i think it extends it, but i want to be sure before create my own config file :)
[17:38] <swiss> oal: uhh..... depends on the mail server. I don't know iRedMail
[17:38] <vanishing> drkphoenix: or you can > output | pastebinit
[17:38] <drkphoenix> i dont know how to do that
[17:38] <swiss> drkphoenix: pastebin it on the other computer, give me the link
[17:38] <drkphoenix> ok i will
[17:38] <vanishing> or*
[17:38] <oal> swiss, iRedMail is using postfix and dovecot. It has a control panel to add more domains, so maybe it handles it automatically :)
[17:38] <mah454> i can not install ubuntu 13.04 in my Laptop ! I have LVM partition  , in installer (ubiquity) : after partitioning system automatic restart .
[17:39] <swiss> oal: in that case, it might. I have a way-too-complex mysql-database-domain+userauth method on mine to do that
[17:39] <boairc> anybody knows what kind of encryption is used for full-disk-encryption in ubuntu?
[17:40] <boairc> also anybody knows how it impacts performance?
[17:40] <oal> swiss, thanks for the help. iRedMail was very easy to set up. 5-10 minutes, and I had it all set up. So it probably takes care of this too then
[17:41] <drkphoenix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5671520/
[17:41] <swiss> oal: most likely. I just do the dovecot/postfix method to do real stupidity in their confs :)
[17:41] <swiss> drkphoenix: looks like it has a driver loaded, try running "rfkill list"
[17:41] <swiss> you should be able to jsut tell me what that one says
[17:42] <Tisgh> hi
[17:42] <Tisgh> ubuntu has trouble detecting my wifi card
[17:42] <Tisgh> how do i fix that
[17:42] <Tisgh> i
[17:42] <drkphoenix> i entered it nothing happened
[17:42] <swiss> Tisgh: lspci -k, and pastebin it for me
[17:43] <swiss> drkphoenix: interesting.... that means that it's not reading the card even though the driver is loaded. Someone else might be able to help you better than i can, seems to be a more complex issue
[17:44] <swiss> if I was on the computer, i might do some poking around in the syslog file to hunt for issues, but I don't know what to have you look for in particular
[17:44] <drkphoenix> is there anyone else here that can help
[17:46] <vanishing> drkphoenix: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[17:46] <vanishing> drkphoenix: try this..might help
[17:46] <paulino> heloo
[17:47] <drkphoenix> i have tried it
[17:47] <paulino> who can help me
[17:47] <paulino> have a system that will not boot
[17:47] <vanishing> paulino: def will_not_boot():
[17:47] <paulino> helloooo
[17:47] <johnsmith> My sound card isn't detected.
[17:48] <paulino> it is not mountin the root lv
[17:48] <johnsmith> I reinstalled alsamixer and pulseaudio, but it still says dummy output in sound.
[17:48] <lobato> paulino: do you have a usb with ubuntu live?
[17:48] <iain_> Hi all, i've got a bit of an overscan issue using an Alienware M11x when using a dualheaded setup connected to an HD TV via HDMI.  The X-session is using the onboard intel graphics card.......And I'm hitting an error when trying to use xrandr.
[17:49] <BluesKaj> johnsmith, any output from aplay -l
[17:49] <paulino> no a cd
[17:49] <lobato> thats great
[17:49] <paulino> let me explain
[17:49] <lobato> sure
[17:49] <johnsmith> it says no soundcards found
[17:49] <iain_> Should say right away that I'm actually using linux mint but that nobody there seems able to help....and since mint is based on ubuntu I thought I'd go back to the mothership to ask for help :)
[17:49] <paulino> i ran out of space on the root lv
[17:49] <DJones> iain_: I'm afraid mint isn't supported in this channel
[17:50] <lobato> i see
[17:50] <johnsmith> I checked online, and it says that it might be a bug from the new kernel. I have ubuntu 13.04 BTW. Is there any way I can go back to the old kernel?
[17:50] <lobato> and what happends on boot time?
[17:50] <iain_> djones> pretty pretty please could you help talk me through tweaking this, it's basically the same underlying OS, right? and most of what I need to do is tweaking terminal stuff which should be no different
[17:50] <iain_> ...?
[17:51] <iain_> when I type sudo xrandr --output HDMI1 --set underscan on
[17:51] <imgx64> What should be my first destination to ask a question, mailing lists or forums?
[17:51] <iain_> X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does not exist)
[17:51] <iain_>   Major opcode of failed request:  140 (RANDR)
[17:51] <iain_>   Minor opcode of failed request:  11 (RRQueryOutputProperty)
[17:51] <iain_>   Serial number of failed request:  37
[17:51] <iain_>   Current serial number in output stream:  37
[17:51] <DJones> iain_: You'll wait for help in the Mint channel
[17:51] <BluesKaj> johnsmith, lspci . look for Audio Controller
[17:51] <paulino> i added aother HDD
[17:51] <FloodBot1> iain_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:51] <paulino> try to expand the lvm
[17:51] <vanishing> johnsmith: yes you can, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[17:51] <paulino> and it crashed
[17:52] <lobato> it gives any error response?
[17:52] <iain_> Djones> I've been trying for hours on end each session or a month and a half now.....Some very helpful community members have tried.
[17:53] <vanishing> iain_: using compiz?
[17:53] <netlar> I though the kernals were backward compatible
[17:53] <iain_> nope, compiz doesn't work with cinnamon, would love to be using it....
[17:54] <iain_> vanishing> I do have it installed though (being a die-hard ubuntu fan I isntalled it before knowing it wouldn't work....could it be the issue?)
[17:54] <DJones> iain_: Please stop asking, Mint isn't supported here#
[17:55] <lobato> i have no experience with lvm so i can't help much about it. but what i 'd try, is to update and reinstall grub using your live cd
[17:55] <vanishing> iain_: I honestly don't know..
[17:55] <vanishing> iain_: if the mint channel can't help
[17:56] <vanishing> i would search "X Error of failed request:  BadName (named color or font does  not exist)
[17:56] <vanishing> iain_: not sure if this is relevant: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1778584
[17:57] <Humanz> i rembember for reinstall grub is fdisck
[17:57] <johnsmith> Is pulseaudio and alsa-base my sound drivers? Because I installed them and my computer's still showing no sound drivers.
[17:59] <vanishing> johnsmith: if you go in a terminal and type alsamixer
[17:59] <vanishing> johnsmith: anything shows up?
[17:59] <iain_> Thanks vanishing reading up, potentially one new lead thrown up ;-)
[17:59] <vanishing> iain_: np
[17:59] <johnsmith> It says "no such file directory"
[17:59] <Humanz> what is alsamixer
[17:59] <Humanz> ?
[18:00] <vanishing> Humanz: its a mixer for alsa driver
[18:01] <vanishing> Humanz: sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[18:01] <jak2000> i have the mailboxes  in /var/spool/mail/  my question is, i want delete all mailboexes (preview i make a backup), and recreate it with empty mailboxes? how to?
[18:01] <Humanz> thanks
[18:02] <vanishing> Humanz: haha..actually wrong ping
[18:02] <vanishing> johnsmith: sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[18:02] <johnsmith> It says that it's already in the installed.
[18:03] <angs> I want to resize sdb4 parition of my sd card by "resize2fs /dev/sdb4 1900M" but it outputs "open: No such file or directory while opening /dev/sdb4". could anyone tell me what is wrong with it?
[18:03] <dtcrshr> hello , im adding a network printer, but the button "look for network addresses" does nothing
[18:03] <dtcrshr> how do i fix this, or add manually a printer i know the ip
[18:05] <vanishing> johnsmith: can you do cat /proc/asound/cards | pastebinit
[18:05] <vanishing> and give me the link?
[18:06] <johnsmith> It says.The program 'pastebinit' can be found in the following packages:
[18:06] <johnsmith>  * pastebinit
[18:06] <johnsmith>  * pastebinit
[18:06] <johnsmith> Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
[18:06] <FloodBot1> johnsmith: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:07] <vanishing> johnsmith: or you can just cat /proc/asound/cards and pastebin the output
[18:07] <gioco> aloa
[18:08] <johnsmith> When i put "cat /proc/asound/cards" it just says "no soundcards"
[18:09] <vanishing> johnsmith: sudo apt-get purge alsa-base pulseaudio && sudo apt-get install alsa-base pulseaudio && sudo alsa force-reload
[18:10] <vanishing> johnsmith: see if that works
[18:10] <mojtaba> Hi, Can anybody tell me what is the difference between the soft-link and hard-link? I did not get it.
[18:10] <alecb> how can I manually set my gtk icon theme in a custom wm? (ie, by editing my .gtkrc-2.0 or something?)
[18:11] <proby> mojtaba, https://www.google.tn/search?q=softlink+vs+hardlink&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[18:11] <mojtaba> proby: I have google it, but I did not get it as I was a windows user and pretty new to linux
[18:12] <llutz> mojtaba: http://techthrob.com/2010/09/26/softlinks-vs-hardlinks-a-quick-explanation/
[18:12] <proby> mojtaba, soft link is a shortcut , hardlink is an actual copy
[18:13] <mojtaba> proby: Then why we use hard link instead of coping that file?
[18:13] <proby> read the tuto , am not that expert
[18:14] <llutz> proby: its not a copy of the contents
[18:15] <proby> llutz , :)
[18:15] <AleXa> What does word "mainline" in IT mean? Like "mainline Linux", "mainline Linux kernel", etc.
[18:15] <AleXa> ?
[18:16] <sicarie> Hello, I have an HP server running ubuntu 12.04 and I'm trying to get their conrep app to work, but having issues
[18:16] <johnsmith> I did it, and it still says dummy output.
[18:16] <sicarie> If I download the conrep files, it says it's failing on a lib, I google the lib, and it's lib2xml, I try to install that, and it's failing dependency perl-base
[18:16] <sicarie> Attempt to install perl-base I get
[18:16] <sicarie> perl : Depends: perl-base (= 5.14.2-6ubuntu2.2) but 5.14.2-6ubuntu2.3 is to be installed
[18:17] <KWhat_Work> Hey do you guys have a brunch command?  If so, What is it?
[18:19] <navigator88> ciao
[18:19] <navigator88> !list
[18:19] <akamrdos> hi
[18:20] <akamrdos> hi
[18:21] <mojtaba> llutz: Thanks, I got it.
[18:23] <alecb> bump: how can I manually set my gtk icon theme in a custom wm? (ie, by editing my .gtkrc-2.0 or something?)
[18:27] <fallout> hey, how can I get debug symbols for the perf tool part of linux-tools-common?
[18:27] <ajp> can someone help with an upstart script? http://pastebin.com/v7GzqKyL
[18:29] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[18:30] <ninjabox_> Hi everyone. Is there anyone here who could assist me with an issue im having?
[18:31] <alecb> ninjabox_: irc etiquette: just ask, don't ask to ask
[18:31] <ninjabox_> Fair enough
[18:31] <ajp> having trouble with upstart: http://pastebin.com/v7GzqKyL here's the script. The subscripts work but the upstart doesn't... I've tried starting and stopping the service with no luck
[18:32] <ninjabox_> My Network-Manager service has to be restarted every time i turn on my computer, any ideas?
[18:32] <killer> hey
[18:32] <ninjabox_> Wont connnect otherwise.
[18:33] <killer> how can i change the dependency of a  deb file
[18:33] <ajp> killer: you should be able to do it through the Ubuntu software center options
[18:34] <vanishing> killer: most of the times you don't want to do that
[18:34] <sicarie> ajp: any way to do it over command line? I think that might solve my issue as well
[18:36] <vanishing> killer: but you can do it using dpkg-deb to extract the content, edit control, then rebuild using dpkg
[18:37] <sicarie> vanishing: any way to force install a .deb without it checking dependencies?
[18:38] <ajp> sicarie: I'm sure there is a CLI way, I'm not sure of the exact way through CLI
[18:38] <ajp> vanishing is on the right track
[18:39] <SonikkuAmerica> sicarie: Check the man pages: [ info dpkg ]
[18:39] <vanishing> sicarie: there is, but I can't pull it out of my head
[18:39] <vanishing> sicarie: i think its --force-depends or something
[18:39] <sicarie> Thanks, SonikkuAmerica is right, I need to RTFM, I'm just on a bad connection so it's annoying :)
[18:40] <sicarie> Thanks!
[18:40] <SonikkuAmerica> sicarie: By no means is that an RTFM... at all
[18:41] <sicarie> vanishing: it's --ignore-depends
[18:41] <sawjig> sicarie, you probably have the manpages installed locally unless you explicitly removed them..
[18:41] <sawjig> So what does your bad connection have to do with it? :P
[18:41] <mojtaba> Does anybody know rsnapshot utility?
[18:41] <sicarie> sawjig: I do, I'm not local to the server. I have to connect to the annoying VPN that keeps dropping me
[18:42] <vanishing> sicarie: yep..thats the one..:D
[18:43] <K4k> Is there a way to edit the gfxboot.cfg in the isolinux directory to remove the language prompt from the install CD?
[18:43] <sawjig> sicarie, well you can look up manpages with google too you know :)
[18:43] <sicarie> Thanks SonikkuAmerica and vanishing!
[18:43] <SonikkuAmerica> sicarie: You're welcome
[18:43] <sawjig> Don't have to use the local manpages.
[18:43] <sawjig> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/dpkg-deb.1.html
[18:44] <vanishing> np
[18:45] <killer> hey
[18:45] <killer> anyoone can help me to edit dependency of *.deb file
[18:45] <theadmin> killer: You can't just do that, you'd have to rebuild the package from source.
[18:46] <fallout> any idea what package I need to get debug symbols in gdb for perf (linux-tools-common), currently get Reading symbols from /usr/bin/perf_3.5.0-25...(no debugging symbols found).
[18:46] <eoo> hi
[18:46] <eoo> anyone here
[18:46] <eoo> ive got a question
[18:47] <killer> theadmin: can't i just edit the control file of it
[18:48] <theadmin> killer: That might work, but doesn't sound like a good idea to me... If a package depends on something it's usually for a reason
[18:48] <eoo> hello
[18:48] <l057c0d3r> eoo, what was the question
[18:48] <eoo> erm
[18:48] <iain_> vansihing> still no joy.....tried installing font packs for xorg via synaptic....
[18:48] <eoo> im using ubuntu 13
[18:48] <eoo> gnome
[18:48] <iain_> and restarting x.....
[18:48] <iain_> same problem
[18:48] <eoo> running cinnamon 1.8
[18:48] <proby> eoo , one line
[18:48] <eoo> soz
[18:49] <theadmin> eoo: Cinnamon is not supported
[18:49] <eoo> i know
[18:49] <eoo> how do i edit gdm wallapaper
[18:49] <l057c0d3r> eoo  there is no actual tool to do it
[18:49] <Y_Bishry> hi
[18:49] <l057c0d3r> and there are two different places that need to be edited
[18:49] <killer> theadmin: ubuntu dependency says linux-kernel-headers depends onlibc(2.14) while folks at ##linux says it doesn't depend on it
[18:49] <eoo> where can i locate the file
[18:49] <proby> eoo , gdm version ?
[18:49] <theadmin> eoo: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-customize-gdm-36-login-lock.html -- see here.
[18:50] <l057c0d3r> first get gdm3setup
[18:50] <eoo> latest i think
[18:50] <eoo> ive got that
[18:50] <eoo> i waana view the background-image file for gdm
[18:50] <proby> eoo , http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+edit+gdm+theme+cinnamon
[18:50] <l057c0d3r> k what i did was chose one of the default backgrounds..  and then went into /usr/share/backgrounds/gnome..  and replaced the selected one with the actual picture i had
[18:51] <l057c0d3r> then replace the noisetexture.png in /usr/share/gnome-shell-theme/ with the same image only png version in
[18:51] <eoo> dude im running ubuntu
[18:52] <eoo> thanks <l057c0d3r>
[18:52] <CYN> I am trying to access a Time Machine Mac partition to get a file off there. I have managed to find a script which apparently has worked for some people but I am clueless at trying to get the directories correct in the script so it works. Basically I need to get one file from that hard drive, and I need help doing so using Ubuntu. Help would be appreciated
[18:52] <l057c0d3r> then edit the .css file in /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/  search for the noiseytexture.png in that file
[18:53] <l057c0d3r> and look below it one or two lines..  u will see repeat..  replace with no-repeat
[18:54] <eoo> noisetexture.png does not exist there
[18:54] <bugtraq> yuhuu
[18:54] <mojtaba> Does anybody know rsnapshot utility? I want to backup my server.
[18:54] <mojtaba> I want to do a whole backup
[18:54] <mojtaba> Can anybody help?
[18:55] <l057c0d3r> noise-texture
[18:55] <l057c0d3r> something like that
[18:55] <l057c0d3r> if u do an ls..  u should be able to find the one im talking about
[18:55] <eoo> oh yeah
[18:55] <eoo> i know what u mean
[18:55] <llutz> mojtaba: edit your rsnapshot.conf and add a line like "backup /    yourbackup-target/"
[18:56] <mojtaba> llutz: I want to do a full backup of my server which I have ssh access to it. (mysqls, emails, files, ...)
[18:56] <brontosaurusrex_> mojtaba, looks like a perl script around rsync
[18:57] <mojtaba> brontosaurusrex_: I am pretty new to linux and this is the first time I am doing this task.
[18:57] <lavish> hi all. I've bought a Lenovo B590 which is certified for ubuntu. The OS does not even boot unless acpi=off is provided as a kernel parameter. This happens on both 12.04 and 13.10.
[18:57] <llutz> mojtaba: yes, and if you want to use rsnapshot for it, you have to configure it
[18:57] <mojtaba> llutz: can you help me for its configuration?
[18:58] <vsMS> Hi. Can anyone help with this error: /usr/sbin/grub-setup: issue: unable to identify a filesystem in hd1; safety check can't be performed.?
[18:58] <brontosaurusrex_> mojtaba, i always end up doing custom scripts
[18:58] <mojtaba> brontosaurusrex_: How do you do it?
[18:58] <brontosaurusrex_> mojtaba, bash scripting
[18:59] <mojtaba> brontosaurusrex_: May I know your way of doing it?
[18:59] <brontosaurusrex_> mojtaba, its usually like: a. copy from a to backup/a and b to backup/b b. export mysql databases to backup/mysql ... ect c. compress everything
[18:59] <killer> can u guys help me with this "dpkg-deb: error: control directory has bad permissions 700 (must be >=0755 and <=0775)
[19:00] <brontosaurusrex_> mojtaba, but iam not a server expert
[19:00] <mojtaba> brontosaurusrex_: May I have those commands in detail?
[19:00] <brontosaurusrex_> mojtaba, hold on ...
[19:01] <mojtaba> brontosaurusrex_: Thanks
[19:01] <vsMS> killer: it looks like the deb you're trying to build has wrong permissions in debian/control
[19:01] <llutz> killer: chmod 755 path/to/your/project/control
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  like so sudo rsync -avv --progress --delete /home/username [remote user@remote ip address]:/home/username/backup
[19:02] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: Does this backup the databases also?
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  thhe whole of /home
[19:03] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: Is the database available in the home? Because I could not find them there.
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> mojtaba  the people in #ubuntu-server can tell you better
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[19:04] <eoo> ur awesome :p
[19:04] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: Thanks
[19:04] <killer> i dun know but it is unable to change them , even as sudo user
[19:04] <l057c0d3r> yoru welcome eoo
[19:04] <l057c0d3r> here's some fun..  as a normal user  type apt-get moo
[19:04] <vanishing> killer: elaborate?
[19:04] <vanishing> killer: error messages?
[19:05] <brontosaurusrex_> mojtaba, keep in mind that this is specific for my purposes, but you should easily hack around that, its pretty simple and direct.
[19:05] <bjd> hello
[19:05] <mojtaba> brontosaurusrex_: Yes, thanks
[19:05] <bjd> i have been out of linux for a while now
[19:05] <eoo> hmm
[19:05] <bjd> i'm running ubuntu and i need to install PHP that I download from the php website
[19:05] <eoo> lool
[19:06] <bjd> but it is not a standard .deb file
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> bjd  use tasksel to install php et al
[19:06] <bjd> how does one install software from binary
[19:07] <killer> vanishing: after changingg the permissions , it still is saying "dpkg-deb: error: control directory has bad permissions 700 (must be >=0755 and <=0775) "
[19:07] <l057c0d3r> well if its a .deb file....  gdebi works rather nice
[19:07] <bjd> MonkeyDust, thanks will have a look at tasksel
[19:07] <vanishing> killer: what command are you executing?
[19:07] <l057c0d3r> oh just seen that its not a standard deb  heh
[19:08] <killer> chmod 755 tmpdir/DEBIAN/control , also tried it as  a  superuser
[19:08] <killer> dpkg -b tmpdir linux.deb
[19:08] <bjd> MonkeyDust, I don't have tasksel installed?
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> bjd  it's in the repos, instal it like any other package
[19:09] <brontosaurusrex_> bjd, visit ubuntu server docs
[19:10] <bjd> thanks
[19:10] <brontosaurusrex_> bjd, probably https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[19:11] <bjd> brontosaurusrex, thanks.
[19:14] <bjd> brontosaurusrex, once installed - can I upgrade the mysql and php versions?
[19:15] <brontosaurusrex_> bjd, they will be upgraded to whatever is the latest version in repos
[19:15] <bjd> brontosaurusrex, thanks.
[19:16] <brontosaurusrex_> bjd, dunno about manual upgrades, never done that on a server
[19:33] <treehau55> hello, can anyone provide me a stock, default, never edited before nsswitch.conf that comes on a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04?
[19:34] <th0r> treehau55, have you looked in /usr/share/base-files?
[19:37] <treehau55> ill check
[19:38] <treehau55> yeah its there, the problem is, I installed some crappy software that modified the nsswitch conf and I am not sure if this is the stock copy or not
[19:38] <th0r> treehau55, the modifiled file should be in /etc
[19:39] <treehau55> awesome
[19:39] <treehau55> lets see if this solves my problem
[19:39] <treehau55> i have had port 80 issues ever since I installed this gem
[19:40] <mustmodify> Does anyone here have experience with chroot?
[19:41] <bestdnd> is there a way to have the terminal at alt+f1 run utop on startup?
[19:41] <th0r> !anyone
[19:41] <mustmodify> because I didn't want to flood you with a long explanation, especially if it would produce no results.
[19:41] <mustmodify> But ok here goes.
[19:43] <bestdnd> is there a way to have the terminal at alt+f1 run htop on startup?
[19:44] <utfans05> !htop
[19:44] <alecb> is there a way to get dzen2 xft support without having to manually compile it?
[19:44] <histo> treehau55: the only diff is the hosts line: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
[19:44] <mustmodify> I am using chroot to jail certain SFTP **note, sftp not ftp** users who wish to deposit sensitive data onto my server to have it processed. I created a group, sftp, whose users are automagically chrooted. I have an app, running as "regular" (not root, not chroot) user "app". The app wishes to process those files and then delete them. But because of the permissions on that directory (which I thought when setting this up were requirements to get chroot to 
[19:45] <histo> alecb: yes
[19:45] <brontosaurusrex> bestdnd, put htop into .bashrc ?
[19:45] <histo> alecb: You'd have to to set it to auto login then edit your bash_profile or bashrc to run htop on start if it auto logged in on tty1
[19:45] <vsMS> Hi. Can anyone help with this error: /usr/sbin/grub-setup: issue: unable to identify a filesystem in hd1; safety check can't be performed.?
[19:46] <alecb> histo: I think you confused me with bestdnd ?
[19:46] <roasted> Question - I'm noticing that within the touchpad menu of system settings that none of the settings I adjust (in terms of the sliders) stay in place when I close and reopen. Is anybody else seeing this, or am I doing something wrong?
[19:46] <th0r> vsMS, a guess would be that you have /dev/hd1 in the grub config, when it should be something like /dev/hda1 or /dev/hdb1
, where is this file? how do i set it to login?
[19:47] <histo> bestdnd: let me find you some linkage
[19:47] <bestdnd> thanks
[19:48] <iceroot_> bestdnd: ~/.bashrc
[19:48] <iceroot_> bestdnd: but dont!!! put htop in that file
[19:48] <brontosaurusrex> bestdnd, cat ~/.bashrc
[19:48] <vsMS> th0r: no, I don't have /dev/hda1 or /dev/hdb1. In my system I have two 3TB disks without any partition on it. They are configured as raid1 and containing a LVM
[19:49] <th0r> raid....would have been nice to know that
[19:49] <wN> and now you know ◕‿◕
[19:49] <histo> bestdnd: http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-auto-login-and-startx-without-a-display-manager-in-debian.html   same principal
[19:49] <maui> is it true that you are in danger of windows virus if you use wine?
[19:50] <bekks> vsMS: The grub device hd1 is the equivalent of /dev/sdb
[19:50] <maui> what about hackers? do i need a fireweall?
[19:50] <iceroot_> maui: you are not in danger
[19:50] <maui> yea yea everyone say that iceroot
[19:50] <iceroot_> maui: then why asking?
[19:50] <maui> how do you know that ppl out there wont make viruses for ubuntu?!
[19:50] <maui> as they make for windows
[19:50] <iceroot_> !virus | maui
[19:51] <maui> thats not a logical answer is it? ''you dont need it... ''--> BUT why not?!
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> maui  because, if someone would make one, 1000 others woud find and cure it
[19:51] <iceroot_> maui: you cant know, of course there can be virus but
[19:51] <maui> oh..
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> maui  before it can do harm
[19:51] <iceroot_> maui: its not an issue in the GNU/Linux world
[19:52] <maui> so programmers keep fixing ubuntu viruses? is that what you say?
[19:52] <vsMS> ubottu: trust me: I get reports of about 400 virus events on our linux systems per day ;-)
[19:52] <yeats> maui: you can install clamav if you're paranoid
[19:52] <iceroot_> maui: they keep fixing bugs and exploits
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> maui, Name the advantages for making badware for linux, people do it foe reasons, usually income.
[19:52] <vanishing> vsMS: you are talking to a bot..
[19:52] <iceroot_> maui: just install the latest security updates and then everything is fine
[19:52] <maui> malice
[19:52] <maui> ppl make viruses to steal info
[19:53] <iceroot_> maui: you have a technical support question?
[19:53] <maui> how do i install the latest security updates?
[19:53] <iceroot_> maui: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:53] <iceroot_> maui: or use the software center which is offering you updates automaticly
[19:53] <yeats> maui: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/tutorials/l-harden-desktop/ - an older article, but the programs and setup haven't changed - not necessary for casual use, but sounds like you have more concerns than most
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> maui, What is the % of people using open sources and is this a profitable pursuit, in comparison to MS.
[19:54] <iceroot_> wilee-nilee: of course it is
[19:54] <iceroot_> wilee-nilee: Linux is the most used system in the world (expect desktops)
[19:54] <iceroot_> wilee-nilee: smartphones, router, server, embeded systems and so on
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> iceroot, Yu miss my point here
[19:54] <vsMS> th0r: do you have an idea about my issue?
[19:54] <roasted> Question - I'm noticing that within the touchpad menu of system settings that none of the settings I adjust (in terms of the sliders) stay in place when I close and reopen. Is anybody else seeing this, or am I doing something wrong?
[19:55] <alecb> can someone just mention my nick? -- configuring my client
[19:55] <iceroot_> alecb:
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> alecb  i love you
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> that all right?
[19:56] <bekks> MonkeyDust: We wont tell your wife ;)
[19:56] <alecb> thanks
[19:57] <Guest40744> maui: most virus infections come trough installing infected software. If you limit yourself to only install software through ubuntu software center it is very very likely that you won't get any virus from there. Software there come from source code, or thrustworthy sources, is carefully tested...
[19:57] <brontosaurusrex> Guest40744, he is talking about wine
[19:58] <Guest40744> maui: the windows world suffers a lot from virus infection because of the default software installation method: you get a software from someone who may have been infected, or download the software from "somewhere" on the internet...
[19:58] <brontosaurusrex> and if wine is any good, than it should run viruses as well
[19:58] <iceroot_> brontosaurusrex: it does
[19:58] <iceroot_> brontosaurusrex: but it will not affect the GNU/Linux system
[19:58] <Guest40744> maui: about viruses coming from wine... I remeber someone testing it from a long time ago
[19:58] <brontosaurusrex> no, but it can probably kill a user dir?
[19:59] <iceroot_> brontosaurusrex: it can kill everything which belongs to the user wine is executed
[19:59] <brontosaurusrex> right
[19:59] <iceroot_> brontosaurusrex: because of that you should NEVER use root-shells or something else when not needed
[19:59] <genii-around> If you set some wine drive letter to a real directory the user owns it's entirely possible
[19:59] <Guest40744> but, for a program to infect a linux system coming from wine, it should have been specifically designed for it. Why someone would create and another person actually run it is beyond my mind
[20:00] <Guest40744> it cant do any harm besides your personal data if you don't run it as root
[20:01] <iceroot_> maui: the windows-program which is running inside wine can only access the wine-prefix-dir not your home, because the default that your home can not be accessed
[20:02] <iceroot_> maui: and if you are afraif of wine can kill your system DONT USE WINDOWS-SOFTWARE. Use FOSS software from the ubuntu repos instead. its that easy and i guess everything is said to that topic
[20:02] <netlar> If you trying to shutdown from the login screen and someone is still logged in, there is suppose to be a safety key right?
[20:03] <BluesKaj> maui, http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Why-Linux-Will-Never-Suffer-From-Viruses-Like-Windows/
[20:03] <bekks> netlar: Uhm - no. If root shuts down the box (or someone with the privileges to do so), it will be shut down.
[20:04] <genii-around> iceroot_: If you did something unsafe like put D:  as /home/yourusername conceivably something malicious could wipe it out from in WINE
[20:04] <mustmodify> I am using chroot to jail certain SFTP **note, sftp not ftp** users who wish to deposit sensitive data onto my server to have it processed. I created a group, sftp, whose users are automagically chrooted. I have an app, running as "regular" (not root, not chroot) user "app". The app wishes to process those files and then delete them. But because of the permissions on that directory (which I thought when setting this up were requirements to get chroot to 
[20:05] <netlar> bekks: ok, thanks, but I when I try to shutdown at the login screen and I am still logged in, then press the shutdown button from the dialog box, it will hand and I have to manually turn off the machine
[20:05] <iceroot_> genii-around: and when i start my x-session as root, and if i delete my home, and if i execute dd thew wrong way and when i chmod 777 the complete system and so on
[20:06] <bekks> netlar: Then it is actually working - didnt knew that something like that was implemented at all.
[20:06] <genii-around> iceroot_: Yup
[20:06] <netlar> hang*
[20:06] <iceroot_> genii-around: if you do stupid things, hopefully everything will break
[20:06] <iceroot_> genii-around: so that you learn why it was wrong
[20:06] <iceroot_> genii-around: s/you/someone
[20:07] <netlar> bekks: Well not sure it is actually working, becuase I still need to push the power button on the computer to shut it down cause Ubuntu screen just feezes
[20:07] <vanishing> netlar: next time try the magic sysrq key..feels more subtle..:D
[20:07] <bekks> netlar: So the basic information is "my ubuntu freezes when trying to shut it down" - why didnt you tell us that from the beginning? :)
[20:08] <netlar> bekks: sorry for the missinformation
[20:09] <netlar> bekks: I was just reading a post on launch pad about a safety key
[20:09] <bagabuntu> is anyone using 13.04 64 bit?
[20:09] <vanishing> bagabuntu: a lot i think
[20:09] <bagabuntu> vanishing:  are you?
[20:10] <vanishing> bagabuntu: im running 64 13.10
[20:10] <bagabuntu> i need some help
[20:10] <maui> do i have to manually sudo update the rkhunter:(?
[20:11] <iceroot_> maui: sudo update is not for updating packages
[20:11] <bagabuntu> i need siomeone to get me builld-essencials whit all dependicis for 13.04
[20:12] <bagabuntu> vanishing:  i can only dl 13.04 on site
[20:12] <netlar> So no one has tried to shutdown the machine from the login screen when someone is logged in?
[20:13] <vanishing> bagabuntu: ah..can't help you with that...
[20:13] <bagabuntu> ther is no more on cd
[20:13] <vanishing> bagabuntu: yea, i upgraded from 13.04 alpha
[20:13] <bagabuntu> and i can dl packets from internet 1 by 1 but i dont know what
[20:14] <bagabuntu> somone using 13.04 64bite?
[20:14] <usr13> netlar: Does sudo shutdown -now   or   sudo halt  work from tty6
[20:14] <iceroot_> !offline | bagabuntu
[20:14] <vanishing> bagabuntu: i believe you can get that information on launchpad
[20:14] <iceroot_> bagabuntu: alsp packages.ubuntu.com
[20:15] <bagabuntu> ty will try
[20:15] <netlar> usr13: ok, but that is great.  I am just thinking of maybe giving this computer to people that on not that savy with regards to cli
[20:15] <vanishing> bagabuntu: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/amd64/build-essential/11.6ubuntu4
[20:15] <vanishing> check the package relationships part at the bottom
[20:15] <netlar> usr13: but thanks for the work around
[20:16] <bagabuntu> ther is no raring hire http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/
[20:16] <proby> !ubottu
[20:18] <vanishing> bagabuntu: huh?
[20:19] <BluesKaj> vanishing, think he meant higher as in more recent
[20:19] <vanishing> BluesKaj: that build should be the most recent one on raring..
[20:19] <vanishing> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/amd64/build-essential/11.6ubuntu4
[20:21] <bagabuntu> vanishing: SOUD I GET Package crossbuild-essential-arm64 or normal?
[20:22] <vanishing> bagabuntu: erm....you just need normal i think
[20:23] <Sanpreet> hello
[20:23] <savio> Sanpreet: hi greetings
[20:23] <netlar> I ran Fedora for a few days, and when I attempted to log out it gave me a new dialog box asking for admin password to shutdown.  That was kind of what I was expecting with Ubuntu
[20:23] <Sanpreet> Do anybody know about bash
[20:23] <th0r> Sanpreet, lots of folks
[20:24] <vanishing> Sanpreet: its the default shell...i think a lot of ppl know it
[20:24] <bagabuntu> vanishing:  omg and half of pacages buils essencal depends  have other packages thet depends
[20:25] <vanishing> bagabuntu: lol..thats why apt-get build-dep is good
[20:25] <vanishing> :D
[20:25] <bagabuntu> i go die
[20:25] <vanishing> bagabuntu: my bad
[20:25] <vanishing> wrong command
[20:26] <Loshki> !ask | Sanpreet
[20:28] <Sanpreet> What is bash script
[20:29] <Sanpreet> what is kernel
[20:29] <genii-around> !cli
[20:29] <th0r> Sanpreet, you might want to start by reading some of the docs on the linux documentation projecxt
[20:29] <Sanpreet> ya
[20:30] <Sanpreet> application of electronics using linux
[20:31] <Sanpreet> how to learn kicad
[20:31] <Sanpreet> Any help
[20:31] <roasted> new kernel broke my suspend <_<
[20:31] <k1l> Sanpreet: do you have a ubuntu support question?
[20:31] <vanishing> Sanpreet: you will have to go on kicad site and research there...
[20:32] <k1l> Sanpreet: for general tech/ubuntu-talk we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:32] <vanishing> roasted: 3.9 kernel?
[20:32] <Sanpreet> what is new in ubuntu 13.04
[20:32] <roasted> vanishing: no, 3.8.0-21 over 3.8.0-19. But cancel that, it seems to be working now that I've rebooted 4 times.
[20:33] <vanishing> roasted: lol..the same thing happened tome today..
[20:33] <roasted> vanishing: suspend broke until you rebooted a few times?
[20:33] <savio> Sanpreet: new kernal new unity stack and lot more
[20:33] <vanishing> upgraded kernel to 3.9.2 pf, and suspend is broken..
[20:33] <vanishing> reboot couple times and its fine again
[20:33] <belgianguy> how do I find out the StartupWMClass
[20:33] <roasted> I hope it stays fine. I'd hate it to be inconsistent about when it suspends and when it doesn't
[20:34] <belgianguy> of an application?
[20:34] <roasted> how long have you been on 3.9.2 vanishing?
[20:34] <vanishing> belgianguy: i think you are in the wrong channel for that question
[20:34] <paolo> list
[20:34] <vanishing> roasted: vanishing is a proud user of 3.9.2 kernel since this morning..:D
[20:34] <vanishing> has been*
[20:34] <roasted> snazzy :P
[20:34] <belgianguy> vanishing: it's for adding an entry to Unity
[20:35] <vanishing> belgianguy: ye..but still
[20:36] <m3t4lukas> hey, is there a propgram that turns up the cpu fan speed?
[20:36] <belgianguy> vanishing: then where should I go?
[20:37] <vanishing> belgianguy: probably #ubuntu-offtopic or something..
[20:39] <histo> m3t4lukas: it's handled by power management which is all built into the kernel now.
[20:39] <histo> m3t4lukas: You maybe be able to adjust it with different acpi tools if there are any.
[20:39] <supersecond> besides pidgin and empathy messengers, are there any better ones?
[20:41] <Fieldy> hello, I have a squid proxy I'd like to run all my ubuntu systems through to include apt. I defined http_proxy HTTP_PROXY ftp_proxy and FTP_PROXY properly in /etc/bash.bashrc and then exported those variables, rebooted and logged back in...
[20:42] <Fieldy> however sudo apt-get update does not hit the proxy nor does any other apt action. if I su -   to root first, and then run the apt commands, it does hit the proxy.
[20:42] <Fieldy> bad time to ask a question with all the splits i guess. will try again later
[20:43] <saegeoff> howdy
[20:46] <supersecond> oh ok
[20:49] <m3t4lukas> I think 65°C are a bit much...
[20:50] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[20:53] <MrPwet> me
[20:54] <batmite> how do you remove duck sauce from a ubuntu laptop
[20:55] <vanishing> batmite: whats that..
[20:55] <batmite> :) just kidding around.
[20:56] <batmite> bored
[20:56] <vanishing> ~.~
[21:10] <b3n> hi --- i installed     ttf-mscorefonts but not showing in libreoffis
[21:10] <b3n> using 13.04
[21:11] <surio_> Greetings room!
[21:11] <surio_> I have Mint 14 installed on one partition, and subsequently, Grml (another debian distro) on another partition. Grml install botched up the MBR/bootloader, but I have now recovered the MBR. However, when I run "update-grub" from Mint, it seems to pick up Windows which is on another disk, but not Grml which is on the same disk :-P FWIW, the partition containing Grml is mounted :)
[21:11] <genii-around> b3n: Try:  xset fp rehash     ...if you have not logged off and back on after installing them
[21:12] <b3n> in terninal ?
[21:12] <surio_> I am thinking, this was fixed as they are perhaps related, in a way? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/748413
[21:12] <genii-around> surio_: This is not Mint support :)
[21:12] <genii-around> !mint | surio_
[21:13] <gtm157> hi im having a problem with dapper drake distro of ubuntu can anyone help
[21:13] <k1l> !eol | gtm157
[21:13] <genii-around> gtm157: What you probably want there is the second link the bot provides
[21:14] <auronandace> gtm157: dapper (6.06) is really old, hasn't been supported for years
[21:14] <gtm157> i know im running a legacy server
[21:14] <b3n> genii-around i'll log out and bak in
[21:14] <gtm157> its a duel pentium 3 with 512 mb ram system
[21:15] <gtm157> modern distros wont hold on it
[21:15] <genii-around> gtm157: You're running such an old LTS that even the next LTS of 8.04 is now EOL
[21:16] <surio_> genii-around: I know. I've come from there. They don't know what's wrong
[21:16] <surio_> rather didn't know what to do
[21:17] <surio_> genii-around: Of course, there's that link from launchpad :)
[21:17] <genii-around> surio_: You could ask generally in ##linux , but persisting in here will only annoy
[21:17] <SonikkuAmerica> gtm157: Whaddaya mean, modern distros don't wor - Oh, Pentium III you said? Hate to say it, but I don't think even Lubuntu will fit.
[21:17] <gtm157> genii-around: all im trying to do is configure the internet to work cause im not getting a signal from a direct hard line at all and nothing is showing up in network config besides the default ip adress and subnet mask i dont need OS help and i know its outdated but like i said the legacy system in running wont support anything newer
[21:18] <gtm157> even DSL barely wanted to take
[21:19] <gtm157> its a duel pentium 3 blade server with 4 160gb scuzzy drives i got for free
[21:19] <Kamaris> Could anyone tell me which logfile might contain the MAC address of connecting computers? Preferably something that is historical to the system? I need to go back several months to see if I can find the MAC address of a system on my local network.
[21:19] <zykotick9> scuzzy drives ;) gtm157 it's SCSI
[21:20] <gtm157> forgot abv
[21:20] <histo> Kamaris: connecting how
[21:20] <gtm157> >.<
[21:20] <gtm157> hardline cable
[21:20] <genii-around> gtm157: Are you using some layout like network card -> router/modem->internet with dhcp, or are you using something like roaring penguin/pon-poff adsl direct login with modem bridged?
[21:20] <gtm157> internet NIC card built into Motherboard direct to router
[21:21] <Kamaris> any computer that may have accessed data on the ubuntu server, maybe either through SMB or HTTP...
[21:22] <llutz> Kamaris: those wouldn't transfer/log mac-addresses
[21:22] <Kamaris> ok. i can't think of any other methods i used to communicate with the system that might have logged the MAC by chance.
[21:23] <histo> Kamaris: I doubt you are going to find a log by mac you may find ip address loges like /var/log/wtmp etc...
[21:24] <Kamaris> basically, i need the MAC address in order to gain traction on a burglarly case where my main desktop was stolen from my apartment. the police won't pursue it without a MAC address for my NIC to definitively say the system is mine. The router logs have long since cycled since the robbery happened in January. Ubuntu logs were my last hopes of getting a MAC
[21:25] <histo> Kamaris: How are you viewing the logs if your system was stolen?
[21:25] <gtm157> genii-around : in the network settings the cable connection doesnt even show up the only on is modem connection which its saying is not configured
[21:25] <ubuntourist> Working with the command line only, if I add a new user to a custom Live CD, how do I set that user as the auto-logged in? (I'm trying to create a "user" only CD so that people booting from it cannot screw with the hard disk of the host machines.)
[21:25] <histo> Kamaris: did your system dhcp the network or the router?
[21:25] <vanishing> does firewall logs contain mac addresses?
[21:25] <Kamaris> histo: main desktop was Windows based, my ubuntu server was not stolen
[21:25] <bekks> vanishing: Depends on what they are logging.
[21:26] <Kamaris> histo: the router unfortunately
[21:26] <histo> Kamaris: also that's kind of silly that they won't pursue without a mac address. there are plenty of other ways to prove the system is yours.
[21:27] <zykotick9> vanishing: MAC addresses would only be useful for local network...?
[21:27] <histo> Kamaris: You could perform a grep of your /var/log/* searching for mac addresses .  What type of desktop was it?
[21:27] <Kamaris> histo: the police refused to even give consideration to my case because it's just property theft... after 3 months, my dropbox account on that desktop came online from a different city in the state i lived. i recontacted the police and explained my system had not been wiped and it was online, and how i had not changed my dropbox password in hopes of this happening
[21:27] <histo> Kamaris: for instance was it a home built or is a dell/hp etc...
[21:28] <Kamaris> after a full day of begging and pleading, they finally assigned aaaaa detective to call me for more info
[21:28] <Kamaris> that was last month... and now after an additional month, he says he can't do anything without a MAC
[21:28] <histo> Kamaris: pm me please
[21:28] <Kamaris> histo: home built, ASUS onboard NIC
[21:28] <llutz> Kamaris: sudo grep -ri '[0-9A-F]\{2\}\(:[0-9A-F]\{2\}\)\{5\}' /var/log/*                    but i doubt you'll find any useful info
[21:29] <Ben64> Kamaris: do you have the motherboard box
[21:29] <Kamaris> i do have the motherboard box, and i supplied the serial from the box to the police
[21:29] <Ben64> it should also have the mac on the box
[21:29] <histo> Kamaris: The mac shouldb eon the box for the mobo
[21:29] <Kamaris> o.O
[21:29] <Kamaris> orly??
[21:30] <Ben64> and if its home built it should be way easier to tell its yours
[21:30] <Ben64> ya, rly
[21:30] <Kamaris> ok... need to figre out a way to look at the box... i'm in cali for work, box is in texas at homestead
[21:30] <Kamaris> let me see if i can facetime someone to check out the box
[21:30] <Ben64> its dumb that they need the mac though
[21:30] <Kamaris> i agree
[21:30] <Ben64> you can't track someone with a mac address
[21:30] <histo> Ben64: they are probably trying to put enough together for a search warrant
[21:30] <Kamaris> but i must stress how hard it's been to get someoen to even look a tmy case
[21:31] <Kamaris> yes, actually, what histo said. i gave them the connecting IP's info from dropbox, and after 4 weeks, this is the follow up request, "need mac to do anything"
[21:32] <histo> Kamaris: I would assume that someone logging into your dropbox would be enouhg evidence to obtain a warrant though.. Well atleast with the courts I am familiar with.
[21:32] <tacomaster> lol how would you even go about tracking a mac address you would have to be on the same lan as them because the mac address is never broad casted outside of the router it is the way the router separates traffic for internal and external address
[21:32] <oconnore> Hi, can someone help me figure out where the best place would be to report a bug? My bug is that on the 3.8 kernels distributed with 13.04, my wifi card will see available networks, but can't reliably connect to them. Downgrading to a 3.5 kernel (from 12.10) fixes the problem, and I can then connect to wifi networks successfully.
[21:32] <zykotick9> tacomaster: +1
[21:32] <Ben64> or contact asus and see if they can get the mac from the serial
[21:33] <ubuntourist> oconnore Have you aready poked around on http://launchpad.net/? That's the typical place to file bugs.
[21:33] <Kamaris> really good suggestions, ty
[21:33] <sgt_fragwell> evenin' all
[21:33] <Kamaris> trying to contact someone in the house still to see the box
[21:34] <zykotick9> !bug > oconnore
[21:34] <tacomaster> sgt_fragwell: hello :D
[21:35] <Kamaris> Well, looks liek no one is at home. I will follow back up in here later if I get any progress. Thank you to those that took the time to respond. I greatly appreciate your input.
[21:36] <oconnore> thanks zykotick9. ubuntourist -- I looked around but it wasn't clear which package I should report the bug against. NetworkManager, kernel-ppa, laptop-testing, etc. all seem related.
[21:37] <zykotick9> oconnore: personally, i'd report against the kernel.  if it's wrong, the bugs-team will sort it out for you.
[21:37] <oconnore> zykotick9: Ok, thanks
[21:37] <cbx33> hi all, I upgraded from 12.04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04
[21:37] <ubuntourist> I'm guessing that at least while I'm chrooted into the custom ISO image, I can just do a "passwd" to take care of the original auto-logged-in user and a useradd (or adduser) to create an unprivileged one. But from the command line, how do I make that the automatically logged in user?
[21:37] <cbx33> problem, unity doesn't have any menu bars or anything
[21:38] <cbx33> i just about have window decorators
[21:39] <esperegu> is it possible to write to a file in a pipe and replace its contents on every write?
[21:42] <genii-around> esperegu: Generally it's  > filename  for create or overwrite and >> for append
[21:42] <esperegu> genii-around: that will add all items to that file
[21:42] <esperegu> genii-around: I only want one line in the file
[21:43] <tacomaster> esperegu: not with the > it deletes everything and rewrites it
[21:43] <Udms> ls
[21:43] <genii-around> esperegu: Then pipe it through something which extracts the line before you write it
[21:43] <esperegu> genii-around: so if I have a file with text and i do 'cat textfile > newfile' I want the newfile only to contain the last line of the textfile
[21:44] <tacomaster> esperegu: look in to grep
[21:44] <esperegu> tacomaster: I use grep
[21:44] <Ben64> tail -n1 textfile > newfile
[21:44] <genii-around> esperegu: Then you insert something like: cat textfile | tail -n1 > filename
[21:44] <esperegu> hmm
[21:44] <esperegu> lemme be more clear
[21:45] <esperegu> I have a tcpflow running. And on each match I want it to write to that file
[21:45] <esperegu> but I want only the last item in the file
[21:45] <esperegu> so it needs to overwrite it for each matching line
[21:45] <g0th> hi when I do xset fp+ (some directory with mathematica fonts) I get: "xset:  bad font path element (#6), possible causes are:"
[21:45] <g0th> any ideas?
[21:46] <g0th> I get the same message if I start mathematica
[21:46] <esperegu> it is something like this: tcpflow -p -c -i eth2 src host myhost and port 80| grep --line-buffered -oE ".* HTTP/1.[01] 200 OK"  | sed -u "s@.*@$(date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S) @" > test.log
[21:47] <esperegu> and I want to have test.log to only contain the last matching date
[21:50] <andres_> help me
[21:51] <K1lleD> hello guys, i try to share one folder, my sister have laptop with windows 8. i have ubuntu 12.04. i share folders with samba, but when she try ot open folder have a error message: you dont have acces to this folder, and didnt ask her for name+pass to open folder.
[21:51]  * madprops helps andres_ 
[21:51] <K1lleD> mmmmm sry for my bad english btw
[21:53] <clcto> K1lleD: where is the folder you are sharing?
[21:53] <goddard> is anyone else annoyed that the automatic updater pops up every time i do an apt-get update
[21:53] <goddard> how can i disable the automatic updates?
[21:53] <tacomaster> K1lleD: Check the permissions of the folder
[21:54] <esperegu> nobody?
[21:55] <clcto> K1lleD: if its in home, you will need to add executable permissions to /home/user/
[21:55] <K1lleD> clcto: , folder is in /media/.../downloads
[21:57] <clcto> and what are the permissions of /media/... and /media/.../downloads
[21:57] <ahammond> where can I find a 12.04 package of libzmq1 libzmq-dbg and libzmq-dev for ZeroMQ 2.1.7? I need that specific version.
[21:57] <tacomaster> K1lleD: /media is out of reg user permissions you probally need to add read and write permissions
[21:57] <goddard> ahammond: probably in archive.ubuntu.com
[21:57] <ahammond> goddard: thanks, I'll take a look
[21:57] <tacomaster> K1lleD: normally /media is owned by root unless you have changed it
[21:58] <K1lleD> how i can give premmision on /media ... i have movies and music, and i want to share
[21:58] <ironhalik> anyone having segfaults after upgrading to 3.8.0-21?
[21:58] <K1lleD> to my sister can watch movies
[21:58] <K1lleD> ?
[21:59] <clcto> K1lleD: man chmod
[22:04] <usr13> clcto: drwxr-xr-x  20 root  root  4096 May 16 13:01 media  Is what it's supposed to be.
[22:04] <clcto> thats fine
[22:04] <usr13> KingK_: How do you want to share them?
[22:05] <usr13> K1lleD: How do you want to share?
[22:05] <usr13> sorry clcto KingK_  Those posts were supposed to be for K1lleD
[22:05] <andres_> How can i program in C#?
[22:06] <usr13> K1lleD: What do you want to share and how do you want to share it?
[22:06] <andres_> What?
[22:06] <usr13> andres_: Learn the language
[22:06] <K1lleD> usr13: i want my sister open in her windows 8 "network" folder and see my computer and open folders and download and delete files
[22:06] <K1lleD> and etc.. full access
[22:06] <andres_> But in ubuntu?
[22:06] <K1lleD> to this folder i want to give her
[22:06] <tacomaster> andres_: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/programming-languages/c-sharp/
[22:06] <K1lleD> this is a folder only with movies and music
[22:07] <clcto> andres_: you can program in any text editor, compiling is a different story
[22:07] <usr13> andres_: There are a number of wesites you can go to that might get you started, http://www.cprogramming.com/
[22:07] <clcto> K1lleD: what is the whole path to your shared foldere
[22:07] <ubuntourist> Never mind. I didn't look as hard as I thought. Got it now... I think.
[22:08] <usr13> andres_: vim is good
[22:08] <K1lleD> user82: /media/......./downloads
[22:09] <usr13> KingK_: Your whole computer?
[22:09] <clcto> K1lleD: every folder in the path needs to have r-x permission for "other" and the files in the folder will have to have rwx for other
[22:09] <clcto> i mean rw-
[22:09] <usr13> KingK_: I don't think you really want that.
[22:09] <clcto> K1lleD: that is not the full path
[22:09] <K1lleD> clcto: martin@k1lled:/media/E258E8C558E89995/downloads$
[22:09] <clcto> usr13: it is a 1 not an I
[22:09] <K1lleD> .. ?
[22:09] <usr13> sorry again K1lleD
[22:09] <bekks> K1lleD: Folders always need execution permissions, otherwise you cant enter them.
[22:09] <tacomaster> K1lleD: hey you can normally run "gksu nautilus" and go to the folder you want to change permissions on and just right click and go to permissions
[22:10] <tacomaster> K1lleD: if you dont want to run many commands
[22:10] <clcto> what are the permissions for E258E8C...
[22:10] <usr13> K1lleD: Maybe what you really want is vnc.
[22:10] <clcto> and why is that the name of it
[22:10] <usr13> K1lleD: You could install x11vnc on your computer and tightvnc (vncviewer) on your sister's computer.
[22:11] <clcto> usr13: that is an awful solution
[22:11] <K1lleD> drwx------ 1 martin martin 4.0K Jan 22 03:20 End.of.Watch.2012.BRRip.XviD.AC3-MAGNAT
[22:11] <tacomaster> clcto: sounds like an external hdd or another partition and if you dont name it manually it normally names it something weird like that
[22:11] <goddard> is anyone else annoyed that the automatic updater pops up every time i do an apt-get update
[22:11] <goddard> how can i disable the automatic updates?
[22:11] <usr13> K1lleD: Or just tightvnc on both.
[22:11] <clcto> K1lleD: it needs to be drwx---r-x
[22:11] <K1lleD> hmm
[22:11] <clcto> K1lleD: dont use VNC
[22:12] <th0r> K1lleD, what you want is samba. Give your sister a samba id and password, and she should be able to access the folders you share using samba
[22:12] <K1lleD> clcto: i am newbie in ubuntu how to change this premission
[22:12] <K1lleD> ?
[22:12] <K1lleD> i have samba in my computer
[22:12] <th0r> K1lleD, look at swat for configuring samba and sharing the folders
[22:12] <K1lleD> she need samba to on her windows 8 ?
[22:12] <K1lleD> or what
[22:13] <clcto> K1lleD: tacomaster told you
[22:13] <usr13> K1lleD: What do you want her to do?  Download files from your PC to hers?
[22:13] <th0r> K1lleD, if you have samba set up then I believe it should appear in the network neighbourhood, or whatever they call it in win8
[22:13] <clcto> K1lleD: you can do it through command line using chmod or through nautilus if you use gksu nautilus
[22:13] <K1lleD> we are in one network
[22:14] <K1lleD> with her, and i want to share folders
[22:14] <clcto> th0r: he is geting permission denied on her comp
[22:14] <clcto> K1lleD: gksu nautilus then right click the folder and go to permissions
[22:14] <usr13> K1lleD: Install samba on your computer and pick the directories you want to share.
[22:14] <th0r> clcto, has he defined her as a user, and programmed the id/passwd on her computer for logon to samba?
[22:14] <K1lleD> usr13:  i do taht
[22:14] <K1lleD> that *
[22:14] <K1lleD> but nothing she again cant open this folders
[22:15] <usr13> K1lleD: What error does she get?
[22:15] <clcto> K1lleD: ignore them and change the permissions
[22:15] <K1lleD> "dont have premmsion to open this folder"
[22:15] <andres_> I have been installed Samba
[22:15] <clcto> K1lleD: like ive told you 10 times
[22:15] <th0r> K1lleD, have you set up that folder as a share in samba?
[22:16] <andres_> Yes
[22:16] <usr13> K1lleD: Which folder(s)?
[22:16] <andres_> /home/andres/Downloads
[22:16] <clcto> andres_: wtf are you talking about
[22:17] <usr13> K1lleD: pastebinit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[22:17] <andres_> How can i configure Wine ?
[22:18] <andres_> I need to play a Windows XP game but i can't
[22:18] <usr13> andres_: What's to configure?
[22:18] <K1lleD> usr13: what i must change in this .conf file ?
[22:18] <usr13> andres_: Not all Windows XP games will work under wine.  (Most will but not all.)
[22:18] <clcto> K1lleD: he wants you to pastebin it
[22:18] <usr13> K1lleD: Yes
[22:18] <andres_> in a terminal i put winecfg
[22:18] <clcto> K1lleD: but have you changed the permissions?
[22:19] <clcto> of e378.... or w.e it was
[22:19] <usr13> andres_: wine name.exe
[22:19] <K1lleD> clcto: i am not sure how to change this permissions
[22:19] <clcto> K1lleD: i bet you a cookie that is your problem
[22:19] <clcto> K1lleD: i told you
[22:19] <usr13> K1lleD: pastebinit /etc/samba/smb.conf    #And send us resulting URL.  We'll have a look.
[22:19] <K1lleD> on /media/e25.../
[22:19] <utfans05> i thought that with wine you needed to give it the path to the file unless you were in that directory
[22:19] <th0r> clcto, I share /media and all folders under it, and I haven't had to change any permissions
[22:19] <clcto> K1lleD: gksu nautilus then right click the folder and go to permissions
[22:19] <andres_> exit
[22:20] <K1lleD> clcto:  i try this
[22:20] <K1lleD> but when i change someething
[22:20] <K1lleD> after 1 sec
[22:20] <K1lleD> again go back what was
[22:20] <clcto> K1lleD: why?
[22:20] <K1lleD> i dont know i just open how you say
[22:20] <K1lleD> gksu nautilus
[22:21] <K1lleD> after this i go in folder
[22:21] <usr13> K1lleD: rwx  r=4 w=2 x=1  rw=6 rwx=7  etc. etc.  See man chmod
[22:21] <K1lleD> i go right click
[22:21] <K1lleD> properties after this premission
[22:21] <clcto> yes
[22:21] <usr13> K1lleD: Yea, you can do it that way.
[22:21] <K1lleD> and i try to change options here but always stay on one point
[22:21] <K1lleD> and never change
[22:21] <usr13> K1lleD: What directory is it?
[22:21] <K1lleD> wait i will make a one photo
[22:22] <K1lleD> /media/c25......./downloads
[22:22] <usr13> K1lleD: (You can only change permissions on directories that you own.)
[22:22] <usr13> K1lleD: root owns /media/
[22:22] <GSilva> anyone here who uses/had used hackety hack?
[22:22] <clcto> usr13: thats why he did gksu
[22:22] <usr13> K1lleD: Choose one you own. Make a directory in /home/K1lleD/
[22:23] <clcto> usr13: its an external hard drive
[22:23] <K1lleD> i have directory and ?
[22:23] <clcto> usr13: hes not going to copy the files to home just to share, that is another horrible solution
[22:23] <K1lleD> clcto:  this is a 180gb files
[22:23] <K1lleD> i cant copy in here
[22:23] <clcto> K1lleD: i know
[22:23] <usr13> K1lleD: Use samba
[22:23] <EtherNet> hello guys, does anoyone know how to prevent autosuspend on USB devices? my USB mouse stop working after a few minutes idleing. I have to reconnect it
[22:24] <K1lleD> usr13:  wait i will make photos
[22:24] <K1lleD> to see.
[22:24] <K1lleD> ok ?
[22:24] <clcto> K1lleD: please
[22:24] <usr13> !paste | K1lleD
[22:24] <clcto> and usr13 is not helping
[22:25] <otak> So the external drive is FAT based that is why the permissions cannot be changed
[22:25] <bekks> otak: Because its FAT.
[22:26] <otak> It must be mounted differently
[22:26] <bekks> otak: FAT does not know anything about linux file permissions.
[22:26] <usr13> K1lleD: Open a terminal, type   pastebinit /etc/samba/smb.conf   Hit enter. Send us the resulting URL and we will have a look at what you have so far.
[22:26] <GSilva> usr13, have you haver used hackety hack?
[22:26] <clcto> otak: that makes sense
[22:27] <clcto> otak: ntfs does though?
[22:27] <usr13> GSilva: I don't think so.  (Don't know what hackety hack is.)
[22:27] <josue> hola
[22:27] <clcto> \o
[22:27] <GSilva> it's a rails programing tool
[22:27] <K1lleD> usr13: http://postimg.org/gallery/awtdgq3s/
[22:29] <clcto> K1lleD: as otak said it needs to be mounted differently
[22:29] <K1lleD> and http://paste.ubuntu.com/5672389/
[22:29] <K1lleD> this is /etc/samba/smb.conf
[22:29] <usr13> K1lleD: "Only allow access to sepcific users"?   martin?
[22:30] <clcto> usr13: she doesnt even get to the passwd prompt
[22:30] <K1lleD> usr13: ....... when i take for everyone... nothing my sister again cant
[22:30] <K1lleD> open folder..
[22:30] <usr13> K1lleD: "valid users = martin"
[22:31] <caes> wondering if there's a way to regain control if you accidentally created an administrator without a password and then set the only account with a password to standard user?
[22:31] <usr13> K1lleD: The way you have it, only user martin will have access permission
[22:32] <clcto> K1lleD: fdisk -l then write a rule in /etc/fstab that has something like /dev/sdb1 vfat defaults,umask=000 0 0
[22:32] <clcto> usr13: that is not the issue (at least yet)
[22:32] <usr13> clcto: Ok.
[22:33] <usr13> I've got to get outta here soon anyway....
[22:33] <clcto> $su
[22:33] <clcto> $passwd
[22:33] <clcto> caes: ^^
[22:34] <caes> there is no longer an admin password
[22:34] <caes> that's what i mean.
[22:34] <clcto> caes: so you cant "su" ?
[22:35] <utfans05> caes, when you do su leave the password blank
[22:35] <utfans05> caes, if theres no password set then that should fix it
[22:35] <caes> authentication failure
[22:35] <caes> i guess it won't take an empty password
[22:35] <utfans05> hrm
[22:35] <clcto> sudo passwd root ?
[22:36] <utfans05> caes, then im unsure
[22:36] <usr13> caes: You no longer have access to the original user account?
[22:36] <maui> powerpoint-alike software for linux?
[22:36] <clcto> maui: libreoffice impress
[22:36] <caes> ok.  will ubuntu automatically download all the packages i already have installed if i reinstall the os?
[22:36] <clcto> no
[22:37] <caes> i have access to original account... but i demoted it
[22:37] <usr13> caes: You can fix what you have.
[22:37] <naito> Has anyone experienced problems with network connections (wired) on 10.10 Maverick Meerkat?
[22:37] <usr13> caes:  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[22:37] <caes> there is an admin, but it has no password and won't accept a blank password in su
[22:38] <clcto> caes: wait, you have an administrator user? not the standard root?
[22:38] <usr13> caes: You can't use sudo?
[22:38] <usr13> caes: Then just set a password
[22:38] <usr13> caes: passwd
[22:39] <usr13> caes: In a terminal use the   passwd   command.
[22:39] <clcto> su -u <admin>
[22:39] <naito> Whenever it happens (once every few months) I try: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:40] <naito> Which I thought had worked before, but it didn't fix it this last time
[22:41] <otak> naito: I think 10.10 is no longer supported
[22:41] <loculinux> ehhh
[22:41] <naito> I see. So, I can get no help here? lol
[22:41] <loculinux> español jilipollas
[22:41] <loculinux> jajajajajaja
[22:41] <otak> you can get help with upgrading
[22:41] <usr13> clcto: sudo -i
[22:41] <clcto> naito: upgrade :) thats all the help you need
[22:42] <ovidiu> hi.. what's the channel for help on kubuntu?
[22:42] <clcto> usr13: #kubuntu
[22:42] <loculinux> comeme el raboo
[22:42] <clcto> ovidiu: ^^
[22:42] <ovidiu> thx
[22:42] <usr13> ovidiu: This one will do, but there is also  #kubuntu
[22:42] <sssilver> Hello gentlemen. Why do people prefer Ubuntu over Debian?
[22:42] <loculinux> jajaj ludooo
[22:42] <loculinux> jajajaja
[22:42] <naito> Yeh, I should update, but I'm trying to keep my dev box as similar/same as the version installed on our Linode
[22:42] <clcto> usr13: i guess it is su - USER
[22:42] <loculinux> fookiuu
[22:43] <loculinux> fokii wanted
[22:43] <usr13> sssilver: That is a complicated question.  Basically it is fancier and, well maybe more user friendly, etc...
[22:43] <clcto> sssilver: debian has a slow release cycle
[22:43] <usr13> sssilver: What exactly are you looking for in a distro?  (Are you shopping?)
[22:44] <sssilver> usr13: what do you mean "more user friendly"? A linux distro is pretty much just its package manager
[22:44] <clcto> archlinux > ubuntu > debian
[22:44] <sssilver> everything else is the same between distros
[22:44] <ovidiu> i have a problem with dual monitors, more specifically with a player i think it's made in html5, in windows when i click the fullscreen button it it's in the second screen it remains in full screen on the second screen but on kubuntu it fullscreens it on the first monitor even though the button was pressed on the second screen. any fix for this?
[22:44] <clcto> sssilver: not true
[22:44] <sssilver> and ubuntu and debian have the same package manager
[22:44] <usr13> sssilver: Basically, yes, but repos are organized differently.
[22:44] <clcto> sssilver: ubuntu uses upstart arch uses systemd (for 1)
[22:45] <clcto> sssilver: different options enabled in the kernel, etx
[22:45] <sssilver> clcto: I compile my own kernel anyway
[22:45] <usr13> sssilver: All distros have access to same packages, they all have similiar but different default collections.
[22:45] <clcto> usr13: also not true
[22:46] <proby> ubuntu > debian ?
[22:46] <proby> are you trying to start a war here ?
[22:47] <sssilver> I'm just trying to understand what is it that makes Ubuntu preferable over Debian
[22:47] <sssilver> really
[22:47] <sssilver> being a Gentoo user myself, I'm quite far from both
[22:47] <sssilver> now I'm choosing a distro for me cloud server, and I wanna go with Debian
[22:47] <proby> sssilver , ubuntu have mor gui configurztion tools installed by default :p
[22:48] <sssilver> but then I am like -- hey there must be a reason Ubuntu is more popular
[22:48] <usr13> clcto: What is not true?  (I said several things, please correct as needed, but be specific.)
[22:48] <madprops> ovidiu: at least you're getting a fullscreen :P  I know it's not a solution but try moving it to the other screen by pressing alt and moving it with the mouse
[22:48] <sssilver> so I ended up here
[22:48] <sssilver> proby: but that's not really an argument for a distro...
[22:49] <sssilver> I mean really, "has more gui config tools installed by default" just sounds wrong
[22:49] <clcto> sssilver: use archlinux. rolling release is awesome and the community is awesome
[22:49] <madprops> It's all about the packages really
[22:49] <sssilver> madprops: what packages?
[22:50] <madprops> the ones you need
[22:50] <madprops> and for peace of mind: having a working system that is not prone to breakage
[22:50] <usr13> sssilver: Asking which distro is better is a philosophical question.
[22:50] <proby> sssilver , i think this is what make ubuntu deferant
[22:50] <proby> otherwise it is just another debian
[22:50] <sssilver> I'm not asking which is better. I'm just failing to understand the conceptual difference between Ubuntu and Debian.
[22:50] <proby> well a blleding edge one
[22:51] <madprops> I think ubuntu has more up to date packages
[22:51] <Loshki> sssilver: actually, when all said and done, I find ubuntu has fewer installation problems out of the box, and better support for beginners...
[22:51] <pedroamaral> how to install gnome on ubuntu 13:10 by apt-get
[22:52] <proby> !info gnome
[22:52] <usr13> sssilver: Bascially, it is a difference in package management and selected packages of the default install.
[22:52] <sssilver> OK, so if I compile my own kernel and point Debian to Ubuntu repos, then it pretty much becomes an Ubuntu, eh?
[22:52] <otak> sssilver: #ubuntu-server
[22:52] <k1l> pedroamaral: 13.10 ? that is in developing state. please see #ubuntu+1 for that
[22:52] <usr13> sssilver: Are you interested in server install?
[22:52] <tom_> bye
[22:52] <usr13> sssilver: Yes, that's correct. pretty much.
[22:52] <sssilver> usr13: I'm interested in learning the justification for Ubuntu's existence, let alone popularity
[22:53] <usr13> sssilver: Ubuntu has done a LOT of things right.
[22:53] <k1l> sssilver: more user friendly. in case of drivers, 3rd party, easy install etc etc etc
[22:53] <k1l> 3rd party programs*
[22:53] <proby> sssilver , and ease of configuration with preinstalled guis :D
[22:53] <madprops> plus it has a cool name :3
[22:54] <sssilver> k1l: I'm sorry, I just can't comprehend how can a distro be "user friendly". Do you mean that KDE/Gnome is user friendly? But those are available under any other distro as well.
[22:54] <Hardtail> Hello everyone. I just installed Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro with VMWare Fusion. I'm having some performance problems. I changed in my settings to allow Ubuntu to use 2 cores and 1GB of RAM but everything is very sluggish. I installed Diablo 2 with Wine with no problems but there is an issue with sound and video when I attempt to load the game. I end up having to quit the process because the screen turns black. Can anyone point me in r
[22:54] <k1l> sssilver: just compare the days when ubuntu started. but that is more a topic for #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic than for the technical support channel
[22:54] <proby> sssilver , example : in ubuntu you have an interface to manage drivers , which is not available on debian or arch
[22:54] <usr13> sssilver: One difference is Ubuntu has Cononical behind it. See: http://www.canonical.com/about-ubuntu
[22:55] <madprops> sssilver: The installer is user friendly, plus the gui tools they provide like the updater
[22:55] <usr13> sssilver: madprops took the words from my keyboard.  Ubuntu made great strides in making the install process easy, (early on, as it began).
[22:56] <k1l> sssilver: its about how you define your user. as a beginner or as a CLI guru. but again, that topic doesnt suit into this technical support channel
[22:57] <proby> i think he should try arch , debian , gentoo or slackware and he will know the difference :p
[22:57] <sssilver> OK thanks for your input guys
[22:57] <sssilver> have a fantastic rest of the day
[22:57] <proby> sssilver, thanks :)
[22:58] <otak> yeh 120 seconds of blessings
[23:00] <Hardtail> Should I be running Ubuntu from boot?
[23:00] <Kitzune> Anyone know the command to run screencloud from terminal?
[23:00] <maui> that would be dangerous hardtail
[23:00] <bierce24> hey guys i have an issue
[23:00] <Kitzune> I'm guessing it's not screencloud & 'cause that didn't work
[23:00] <bierce24> is there away to edit the grub.cfg in a live cd
[23:01] <Hardtail> @maui why do you say that?
[23:03] <caes> How do I reinstall ubuntu with everything the same?  obviously I back up home folder, but what about settings?  Config files?  Chrome options and extensions?  email client?  can I do all that conveniently?
[23:03] <bierce24> guys i cant get grub to show up when i tried to complile the 3.9.2 kernel
[23:03] <bierce24> it goes straight to memtest mode
[23:03] <proby> bierce24, ls /boot ?
[23:04] <BlackDalek> How do i get a live CD of 13.04 which has all current updates?
[23:04] <SeanP> what do i do when my computer is restarting when i9 hook it up to my internet?
[23:04] <bierce24> proby http://dpaste.com/1170055/
[23:05] <clcto> SeanP: check the log and see whats causing it
[23:05] <Chat1829> Hi asl
[23:05] <Hardtail> If i'm getting poor performance, lag when clicking icons on the task bar, should I be looking at drivers?
[23:06] <bierce24> proby what do i do
[23:07] <bierce24> seriously can anyone help
[23:07] <bierce24> i cant get it to boot
[23:07] <nsahoo> Hi,
[23:08] <bierce24> okay im at a loss right now
[23:09] <bierce24> is anyone here?!?
[23:09] <BlackDalek> do I absolutely need to have a "windows 8" badged computer in order to install the 64-bit version of 13.04 or can it be installed on an older 64-bit pc?
[23:09] <usr13> BlackDalek: You don't
[23:10] <usr13> BlackDalek: (that was to your first question)
[23:10] <bierce24> wtf
[23:11] <usr13> BlackDalek: Not sure I understand your last question.  Can you re-phrase it?
[23:11] <bierce24> alright whatever
[23:11] <bierce24> i guess ill have to reinstall
[23:12] <bierce24> so if i choose to reinstall itll keep all my home stuff right
[23:12] <th0r> bierce24, did you set up a separate partition for /home initially?
[23:12] <bierce24> no i just did a full erase everything and install
[23:12] <BlackDalek> usr13, on the ubuntu download page it says "download the 64-bit version if you have a windows 8 computer"... Can I also use the 64-bit version if I have an older non-windows 8 64-bit CPU computer? OR is the "windows 8" hardware a prerequisite?
[23:13] <usr13> BlackDalek: If your question is can Ubuntu 13.04 be installed on an older 64bit PC? The answer is yet.  (Ubuntu 13.04 can be installed on a new or old PC, but old-within-reason....)
[23:13] <th0r> bierce24, then you will probably lose everything on a reinstall
[23:13] <bierce24> it says installed software will be kept if possible
[23:13] <BlackDalek> usr13 by old I mean AMD athlon 2400 cpu
[23:13] <th0r> bierce24, are you upgrading or reinstalling?
[23:14] <bierce24> reinstalling
[23:14] <usr13> BlackDalek: It really doesn't matter.  You can install 32bit or 64bit version of Ubuntu, it's up to you.
[23:14] <bierce24> i tried to compile the 3.9.2 kernel but when i rebooted it goes straight to memtest
[23:14] <usr13> BlackDalek: Personally, I prefer just installing 32bit.
[23:14] <th0r> bierce24, then I doubt anything will be saved. You could try not formatting before install, but I wouldn't recommend it
[23:14] <usr13> BlackDalek: Not much advantage in the 64bit system.
[23:15] <Kitzune> So nobody knows the screencloud command then?
[23:15] <BlackDalek> ok thanks
[23:15] <mchlbhm> Hey! Anyone know of a good site or book that explains the relationship between the kernel and hardware?
[23:16] <gordonjcp> mchlbhm: on what level?
[23:16] <usr13> !screencloud | Kitzune
[23:17] <Kitzune> Thank you :)
[23:17] <mchlbhm> Gordonjcp: Anything I can get my newbie hands on. lol
[23:17] <gordonjcp> mchlbhm: if you want to know *generally* about how these things work, Andrew Tanenbaum's "jbi -aprogram 51104_D40A.jbi
[23:17] <gordonjcp> haha, comedy mispast
[23:17] <gordonjcp> mchlbhm: Operating Systems: Design and Implementation
[23:17] <gordonjcp> mchlbhm: it's not exactly bedtime reading though
[23:17] <usr13> Kitzune https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/screencloud/
[23:18] <nsahoo> Hi I am facing some dependency problems. The /boot partition was low on space. I removed some older linux-images using dpkg. After that whenever I am trying to run apt-get it's asking me to run apt-get -f install. That in turn is failing due to some dependency problem. Here is a paste bin link http://pastebin.com/LRQ2QNwt
[23:18] <GSilva> does Ubuntu 13 has more compatibility problems then Ubuntu 12? I can't even install regular programs...
[23:19] <usr13> nsahoo: Why didn't you just use apt-get remove ?
[23:19] <mchlbhm> gordonjcp, I wasn't really looking for a pop-up book. ;) Thank you for helping. :D
[23:19] <K1lleD> usr13:  i do that what you say in private ...
[23:19] <usr13> nsahoo: sudo apt-get autoremove
[23:20] <nsahoo> usr13:  I think it was complaining about lack of space. /boot was totally full
[23:20] <usr13> K1lleD: Ok, sorry.
[23:20] <nsahoo> usr13:  it's asking me to run apt-get -f install
[23:20] <usr13> K1lleD: YOu'll need to restart the samba server
[23:21] <usr13> nsahoo: I know, I saw your paste
[23:21] <nsahoo> usr13: also says linux-server : Depends: linux-image-server (= 3.2.0.39.47) but 3.2.0.43.51 is installed
[23:21] <usr13> nsahoo: So what happened when you ran  sudo apt-get autoremove  ?
[23:22] <nsahoo> usr13: I mean, when i run apt-get autoremove it asks me to run apt-get -f install. also complains about unmet dependency "linux-server : Depends: linux-image-server (= 3.2.0.39.47) but 3.2.0.43.51 is installed"
[23:22] <K1lleD> usr13: sudo /etc/init.d/smbd restart
[23:22] <K1lleD> .. ?
[23:22] <usr13> K1lleD: sudo service smbd restart
[23:23] <K1lleD> ready
[23:24] <usr13>  nsahoo What do you have installed?
[23:24] <usr13> (OS)
[23:24] <nsahoo> usr13: ubuntu-server 12.04
[23:25] <usr13> nsahoo: uname -a
[23:25] <nsahoo> usr13: Linux nas 3.2.0-38-generic #61-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 19 12:18:21 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:25] <Prock81> where is the setting for the hotkey to show all open windows across all desktops, the view where they pan out
[23:25] <kvothetech> Prock81: depends on your de if that's even available
[23:26] <Prock81> 13.04
[23:27] <usr13> nsahoo: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info | grep linux-image*list  | pastebinit
[23:27] <Prock81> i raN across it on my laptop, but i cant find it again to make the same setting on a desktop
[23:28] <pheonixash> evening all
[23:28] <kvothetech> pheonixash: hi
[23:29] <troulouliou_dev> hi is there anybody here on ease with secureboot ?
[23:29] <nsahoo> usr13: somehow the asterisk wasn't working so .. http://pastebin.com/phujRXZA
[23:29] <zvacet> nsahoo:  try with sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:29] <clcto> whats the lastlog equivilent for weechat?
[23:29] <pheonixash> by any chance does anyone know how to make amazon spit out a .amz file
[23:29] <pheonixash> ?
[23:29] <nsahoo> usr13: got this : http://pastebin.com/A9xqF5Be
[23:30] <usr13> nsahoo:  Ok. Looks like you've installed the 3.2.0-39 kernel but have not rebooted since then.  Right?
[23:30] <nsahoo> sounds right
[23:30] <nsahoo> usr13: thats right
[23:31] <nsahoo> usr13: actually i rebooted an hour ago, but i still have the 3.2.0-38 kernel
[23:31] <nsahoo> usr13: perhaps the later kernels could not be properly installed due to lack of space in /boot
[23:32] <clcto> usr13: didnt you say you had to go
[23:32] <usr13> nsahoo: Use apt-get remove to install all but linux-image-3.2.0-38-generic
[23:33] <kvothetech> nsahoo: you actually have a later version than the one it's complaining about...why does it want the old sources when you have a newer one
[23:33] <nsahoo> usr13: actually apt-get any command is failing
[23:33] <usr13> nsahoo: Or just several of the old ones.
[23:33] <Hardtail> how do you see your files in wine?
[23:33] <kvothetech> nsahoo: remove linux-image-server (force) then reinstall it.
[23:34] <kvothetech> Hardtail: ls .wine ?
[23:34] <usr13> nsahoo: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.2.0-29 linux-image-3.2.0-31 linux-image-3.2.0-32 linux-image-3.2.0-33 linux-image-3.2.0-34 linux-image-3.2.0-35 etc
[23:35] <nsahoo> usr13: and I keep getting this : http://pastebin.com/brb8wTcs
[23:35] <Hardtail> kvothetech: new to linux trying to navigate
[23:35] <kvothetech> Hardtail: ls .wine/drive_c or something like that
[23:35] <usr13> nsahoo: apt-get -f install   #What does that tell us.
[23:36] <Hardtail> kvothetech: okay thanks I will open terminal and give that a shot
[23:36] <nsahoo> usr13: unmet dependency, i posted that on the first pastebin
[23:36] <kvothetech> usr13: i've had that issue he's got before..basically apts broken until you remove all your kernels by force then let it reinstall
[23:36] <histo> Hardtail: ls ~/.wine/drive_c
[23:36] <usr13> kvothetech: Yea, I think start at other end.
[23:37] <histo> !manual | Hardtail
[23:37] <nsahoo> usr13: see http://pastebin.com/LRQ2QNwt
[23:37] <usr13> nsahoo: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.2.0-43
[23:37] <usr13> nsahoo: but remember to do dpkg-reconfiger on the current one first.
[23:38] <nsahoo> usr13: no go.
[23:38] <zvacet> Hardtail: in terminal type ls -a | less and after that cd .wine
[23:38] <usr13> nsahoo: 'apt-get autoremove' does not remove them?
[23:38] <Hardtail> thanks guys I am downloading the manual now
[23:38] <clcto> ls -A id better
[23:38] <clcto> is*
[23:38] <usr13> kvothetech: Do you want to express your experience here?
[23:39] <nsahoo> usr13: all apt-get commands get stopped due to dependency errors
[23:39] <kvothetech> usr13: I wanted to see if your friendly methods worked first
[23:39] <usr13> nsahoo: So I guess you use dpkg then.  Right kvothetech ?
[23:39] <clcto> nsahoo: is there a dont check dependency flag?
[23:39] <kvothetech> usr13: i didn't use dpkg
[23:40] <nsahoo> clcto: in dpkg, yes. not in apt-get
[23:40] <usr13> kvothetech: I would remove them all but the one he is using now, then reboot and do apt-get upgrade on the current one.
[23:40] <usr13> Right?
[23:41] <usr13> kvothetech: apt-get -f remove linux-headers-3.2.0-29 linux-headers-3.2.0-30 etc?
[23:41] <kvothetech> usr13: nsahoo rm /boot/rin* System* config* (obviously last 2 in /boot too)
[23:41] <nsahoo> usr13: a little afraid of rebooting now, with kenel messed up, it'll may not boot up
[23:41] <kvothetech> usr13: nsahoo what'll clear ALL your kernels so don't reboot
[23:41] <usr13> nsahoo: Oh no, don't reboot now.
[23:42] <usr13> nsahoo: Do as kvothetech says.  You can re-install kernel(s) as needed.
[23:43] <kvothetech> usr13: nsahoo then go to /usr/src and clear all the kernels from there as well.
[23:43] <nsahoo> kvothetech: usr13, I am not sure how any of this is resolving the dependency problem. This is manually removing files from the disk.
[23:44] <Hardtail> attempting to open Program Files (x86) gives me unexpected token error
[23:44] <kvothetech> nsahoo: usr13 it's getting rid of the shit it thinks you still need but don't
[23:44] <usr13> nsahoo: Not sure either, but if you do apt-get update, it should get you back to normal.
[23:44] <earspliT> Hardtail: from Ubuntu?
[23:45] <Hardtail> earsplit: yes sir in terminal
[23:45] <Hardtail> I am in the wine folder
[23:45] <kvothetech> usr13: nsahoo after that apt-get install linux-image-server if it fails we can go from there
[23:45] <earspliT> Hardtail: ohhhhhhh sorry can't help you with that
[23:45] <earspliT> Hardtail: you can't cd into the directory at all?
[23:45] <usr13> nsahoo: I'm pretty sure kvothetech is correct.  YOu are going to have to force this stuff to happen.  I might have tried the --force-yes option but... kvothetech will cut to the chanse.
[23:46] <Hardtail> earsplit : when I try cd it gives me unexpected token '('
[23:46] <kvothetech> usr13: nsahoo if that fails let me know and i'll tell you the next bit to do.
[23:46] <usr13> nsahoo: Even if apt-get doesn't work you could download and install manually with dpkg. so...
[23:47] <kvothetech> Hardtail: escape the ( with a \ ?
[23:47] <kvothetech> Hardtail: cd Program\ Files\ \(x86\)
[23:48] <fractaline> hello usr13 , and all
[23:48] <kvothetech> fractaline: wb
[23:48] <wadie> where do I find google chrome in ubuntu ? the shell script
[23:48] <fractaline> :)
[23:48] <earspliT> wadie: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[23:48] <usr13> wadie: apt-cache search crhom
[23:48] <kvothetech> wadie: google chrome or chromium
[23:48] <wadie> google chrome
[23:48] <kvothetech> wadie: chrome.google.com
[23:48] <earspliT> why do you want chrome over chromium?
[23:49] <wadie> I don't know the difference I just have chrome
[23:49] <wadie> where do I find it ?
[23:49] <kvothetech> wadie: chrome is precompiled chromium is open source thats the difference
[23:49] <Panama> Can someone assist me please with installing a game... I've tried #winehq, but no one seems to be responding for the support request I'm putting out
[23:49] <Hardtail> kvothetech: haha now it says no such directory , ohwell
[23:50] <kvothetech> usr13: nsahoo what's the status
[23:50] <kvothetech> Hardtail: just use tab complete i just typed out an example
[23:50] <wadie> kvothetech where do I find chrome ? which directory?
[23:50] <Hardtail> Panama: which game? I'm having trouble with d2
[23:50] <kvothetech> wadie: ???? we already answered your question on where it is and where chromium is and the difference...
[23:51] <kvothetech> Panama: what's the error
[23:51] <wadie> so I can't find chrome on my computer ?
[23:51] <somsip> wadie: do you want to know the location of the executable?
[23:51] <wadie> exactly
[23:51] <kvothetech> wadie: whereis chromium*
[23:51] <Panama> Hardtail: I am having problems with installing Guild Wars 2.... I've followed the guide that is listed on the AppDB, however... Whenever it gets to the point where it would begin installing, my entire PC freezes up
[23:51] <kvothetech> wadie: or whereis chrom*
[23:51] <somsip> wadie: /usr/bin/google-chrome
[23:51] <wadie> thank you somsip
[23:51] <kvothetech> Panama: anything useful in logs?
[23:52] <kvothetech> Panama: can you still get to a tty?
[23:52] <Hardtail> kvothetech: example works fine for the file, there are no typos in my command but it says directory doesn't exist
[23:52] <somsip> wadie: np. In this case, locate google-chrome
[23:52] <Panama> kvothetech: If I knew where logs were, I would check... And also, what is tty?
[23:52] <usr13> wadie: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |grep chrome  #See if it is installed.
[23:53] <Panama> kvothetech: Apologies, but I'm quite a bit of a newb when it comes to this stuff lol
[23:53] <wadie> it is and I found it
[23:53] <wadie> thanks
[23:53] <kvothetech> Panama: /var/log or wherever wine puts it's logs..if you're running it as user no idea where probably .wine
[23:53] <kvothetech> Panama: ctrl alt f1
[23:53] <Riley_88> hey guys i tried to compile and install the 3.9.2 kernel earlier and when i rebooted it kept going to memtest i ended up having to reinstall and it kept my home folder but the 3.9 kernel still shows up as default in grub is there away to remove it
[23:53] <usr13> nsahoo: Still with us?
[23:53] <Hardtail> kvothetech: nvm I didn't change to the directory properly...
[23:54] <usr13> Riley_88: What kernel are you using now?
[23:54] <Riley_88> 3.8.0.19 generic
[23:54] <kvothetech> Riley_88: uhm you skipped something in your .config if you only have memtest....
[23:54] <Riley_88> i have to manually select it in advanced options
[23:55] <usr13> Riley_88:  ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |grep linux-image |grep list  |pastebinit   #Let's see what you have installed.
[23:57] <Panama_> kvothetech: Apologies about that.... I pressed ctrl+alt+f1 and it took me to tty1, but I had no idea how to get back
[23:57] <Riley_88> http://dpaste.com/1170258/
[23:57] <Riley_88> usr13
[23:58] <Riley_88> is there not a way to just get grub to boot of the 3.8 kernel by default
[23:59] <usr13> Riley_88: So you only have the one kernel installed. I suppose you can try dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic
[23:59] <Hardtail> kvothetech: was able to run the wine game through terminal, says unhandled usage flags 0x8 and state_zenable z buffer disabled, but arb_Depth_clamp isn't supported
[23:59] <kvothetech> Panama_: ctrl alt f7
[23:59] <Panama_> kvothetech: That is how I exit tty?
[23:59] <kvothetech> Riley_88: grub1 or 2
[23:59] <kvothetech> pnaayes
[23:59] <kvothetech> Panama_: yes
[23:59] <Riley_88> grub 2
[23:59] <Panama_> Ok, tyvm.... What do I need to do in tty?