[02:37] Good morning. [02:42] good afternoon [02:59] ::workspace-bugs:: [1181053] package kdm 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu2.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed pre-remova... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1181053 (by nilton rosao) [04:10] apachelogger: Once you find my kdepim-runtime patch again, it might be a good idea to have a look at bug 982889 and fix up kdm for those that still use it. [04:10] bug 982889 in OEM Priority Project precise "X trying to start before plymouth has finished using the drm driver" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/982889 [06:02] good morning [06:08] ::workspace-bugs:: [1181083] "delete" mini-button in text boxes covers right-to-left text @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1181083 (by Ibrahim M. Ghazal) === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw === Adityab is now known as AdityaB === smarter_ is now known as smarter === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw [11:48] Hi all [11:49] hi Blizzz [11:49] BluesKaj, [11:50] Hi soee === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback [14:41] Riddell: " Anyone with contact to KUbuntu packagers please tell them they are applying already applied patch to 2.7.1: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/amarok/view/head:/debian/patches/kubuntu_qtwebkit_crash.diff" [14:41] 2.7.1 already has the anti-crash fix [16:06] JontheEchidna, I added a proposed patch for this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314549 I think it might fix the issue (perhaps it'd need a change or two). Plz take a look at it. thnx ;) [16:06] KDE bug 314549 in libqapt "Process more complex markings files" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] [16:07] palasso: thanks. Some more severe bugs popped up right before release so I ran out of time to get to that one [16:08] np I hope it'll make it for 13.10. I hope my proposed patch works out and saves you time to work on other things ;) [16:08] :) [16:09] palasso: I don't see a patch there :P [16:09] shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5674464/ [16:10] shadeslayer, there is an attachment I added. It's backend.cpp with the changed I propose [16:10] *changes [16:10] palasso: it's better to post patches instead of whole files [16:10] plus, maybe propose it on RB [16:11] Ohhh sorry. I didn't know how to do this. It's my first time :( [16:11] nah it's fine for a small patch, I'll just take a look at it right now. [16:11] ^^ [16:11] shadeslayer, what is RB? [16:11] palasso: when you post a file, developers don't know what's changed [16:12] so you just post a list of your changes instead of the whole file :) [16:12] palasso: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/ [16:12] palasso: did you try compiling this? It doesn't work here [16:12] I see... I just thought that everyone uses a diff tool for patches to see the differences :D [16:13] palasso: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5674476/ [16:13] JontheEchidna, no I haven't set up a compiler :( I tried to proofread it manually [16:13] palasso: ah, ok. I'll take a look at it and see if I can fix it [16:14] JontheEchidna, it needs the fix I thought it'd need [16:14] check out the comment I wrote [16:15] yeah it should be something minor like that [16:16] oh, ParseQuoteWord wants a reference to a pointer === ferai is now known as jefferai [16:28] palasso: all I had to do: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5674532/ [16:29] I see [16:29] palasso: seems to work :) [16:29] Nice ;) [16:30] shadeslayer, just created a KDE Identity https://identity.kde.org/index.php?r=people/view&uid=vpalassopoulos ;) [16:30] I tried with both a muon and synaptic generated file [16:30] awesome :) [16:36] palasso: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=libqapt.git&a=commit&h=4ae0602d0f81f48f58395966a8bce8e57226cb8e [16:36] thanks again! [16:36] np yw and thnx for the software JontheEchidna :) [17:53] Good evening. [18:53] hiho [18:54] soee: hi [19:15] Since you are supposedly the developers of Kubuntu, one of you should be able to tell me (or better: give me the commands) how to correctly setup Pulse Audio in a way that works. In particular the part where I don't get just a dummy device. [19:16] Googling for dummy device kde returns a lot of random and wrong suggestions (like adding a user to the audio group). [19:17] Since you designed the system, I kindly ask one of you to document how it is supposed to work including preconditions for all files, etc. [19:17] jdoles: you are troubleshooting a audio device? [19:18] ahoneybun: I don't understand the question. [19:18] ahoneybun: there is nothing wrong with the audio device. [19:18] ahoneybun: it is the software. [19:18] jdoles: This isn't a support channel. [19:18] ahoneybun: or the configuration. [19:18] ScottK: this isn't support. [19:18] FWIW, for me it just works. [19:18] ScottK: I want to know how you designed it. [19:18] It most certainly is. [19:18] We didn't design it. [19:19] ScottK: yes, you did. [19:19] We ship it the way upstream KDE did it. [19:19] ScottK: wrong. [19:19] ScottK: Kubuntu also includes a configuration for Pulse Audio. [19:19] OK, so me where it's different? [19:19] ScottK: Pulse Audio can be configured in three ways according to Freedesktop.org. [19:19] Which isn't kde.org. [19:19] ScottK: even ignoring that third party documentation. [19:19] So that's irrelevnat. [19:20] ScottK: are you saying I should ask the Ubuntu developers? [19:20] No. [19:20] ScottK: I need help with testing a xml file to make a docbook [19:20] ScottK: someone needs to tell me how Pulse Audio is supposed to work. [19:20] jdoles: No. No one NEEDS to. [19:21] ahoneybun: I'm not the best person for that. [19:21] ScottK: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing [19:21] ScottK: you might want to change that slogan. [19:21] ScottK: ok thanks [19:21] ScottK: Kubuntu -- We don't know what we are doing and we are sure as hell are not going to help you. [19:21] ScottK: better? [19:21] jdoles: This is friendly for me and frankly more friendly than you attitude deserves. [19:22] ScottK: my attitude? [19:22] Yep. [19:22] ScottK: you are basically giving me the finger. [19:22] ScottK: and then it is my attitude. [19:22] No, you aren't reading what I'm writing. [19:22] ScottK: you distribute Kubuntu, which is a complete operating system. [19:22] ScottK: I ask a simple question about which Pulse Audio configuration is the correct one. [19:22] ScottK: this is basic information. [19:23] Right and you want configuration help. This isn't the channel for that. [19:23] ScottK: NO [19:23] If someone reads todays chatlog of #kubuntu will know that jdoles has an awful attitude towards other ppl and keeps complaining all the time [19:23] ScottK: I want to know how you designed it. [19:23] jdoles: we take parts from upstream and configure it [19:23] palasso: keeps complaining? [19:23] jdoles: Then look at the code. [19:23] well the devels [19:23] devs [19:23] ScottK: the code doesn't tell anyone that. [19:24] ScottK: there is a difference between how it is intended and what it actually does. [19:24] you... could install another copy in a VM and check what the default configuration is? [19:24] most of us don't touch pulseaudio at all [19:24] yofel: no, I can't. [19:24] yofel: because a VM would require a working sound system. [19:24] yofel: which... I don't. [19:25] have [19:25] Can all of you smart asses say something useful and cooperative for a change? [19:25] jdoles: by joining this room you are agreeing to use proper language [19:25] Right, because insults encourage me to stop doing $work and focus on your needs. [19:25] You are saying you supposedly develop this, but you cannot say how the audio system is supposed to be setup. [19:25] it's hard to tell you something I don't know... [19:26] yofel: now, that's a valid excuse. [19:26] yofel: ScottK however is saying that it is not the task for this channel to be able to point at a resource which documents how Kubuntu Pulse Audio has been designed. [19:26] That is wrong. [19:26] jdoles: I already told you, we follow KDE in this, so it's a standard KDE setup. There's no such thing as Kubuntu pulse audio design. [19:27] ScottK: you are distributing an OS. [19:27] I already said this like three times. [19:27] ScottK: KDE is not an OS. [19:27] kubuntu pulseaudio? We use whatever the default KDE configuration of phonon, and ubuntu's default configuration of pulseaudio is [19:27] yofel: and yet Kubuntu is noth supported by Ubuntu or Canonical. [19:27] Hence, you cannot just say "we have got nothing to do with this". [19:28] KDE people say that my distro is broken. [19:28] My distro being what you created. [19:28] jdoles: Where did they say this. [19:28] ScottK: this afternoon. [19:28] ScottK: in #kde. [19:28] ScottK: it is a popular opinion that Kubuntu is a broken KDE distribution. [19:29] ScottK: so, perhaps you might want to fix that at the same time. [19:29] ahoneybun: there is nothing wrong with my language. [19:29] Which is deeply ironic since we're probably the least patched KDE distro out there. [19:29] ScottK: no, it is not. [19:29] I'm done. Have a nice life. [19:29] ScottK: they just think that you are really bad at the system portions of it. [19:30] it is a popular opinion that opinions on an irc channel are a dimea dozen [19:30] jdoles: cursing is not proper in this room or any IRC room [19:30] ahoneybun: I did not curse. [19:30] ahoneybun: and can't you say anything useful? [19:30] claydoh: and please think of your own sentences. [19:31] Are you sure you are developers? [19:31] jdoles: just to make this abundantly clear, we do not mess with the PA bits [19:31] I did, I just readmy #kubuntu backlog [19:31] It sounds more like you are a bunch of wannabes. [19:31] shadeslayer: and I am sure the Ubuntu and KDE people could not care less. [19:31] jdoles, if you want sth useful let me tell you that support is done in #kubuntu This channel is for development! [19:31] the base OS is the same as Ubuntu, Xubuntu, whatever [19:32] I'm not a developer, I just try to help. [19:32] shadeslayer: so, show me the documentation for Pulse Audio for my system version which says how it is supposed to be setup. [19:32] shadeslayer: if there is no documentation, it is impossible to debug. [19:32] jdoles spent some time harrasing #kubuntu already, palasso [19:32] claydoh: you call is harassing. [19:33] claydoh: I call it discovering that nobody there has any idea of the state of the world. [19:33] claydoh, I'm sorry... I guess it's time for this channel now :D [19:33] jdoles: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User? Note that we do NOT run it as a system daemon [19:33] yes, you were being unreasonable with those who were attemting to help [19:33] jdoles: you're asking the wrong person, since I do not work in that area [19:33] shadeslayer: then why are you so unwise to interfere? [19:34] shadeslayer: it sounds like a waste of my time to talk to me about things you don't know. [19:34] claydoh: I was the only one being reasonable. [19:34] sigh, I'm not interfering, I'm just trying to make it clear that we know very little about PA since most of us do not work in that area [19:34] and for most of us, everything just works [19:34] shadeslayer: it was becoming clear already that you are not organized to create an operating system. [19:35] jdoles: sure, you were:( [19:35] ... [19:35] shadeslayer: this is not a personal attack. [19:35] I think that jdoles is purposefully trolling...... [19:35] palasso: I think you should learn to read. [19:35] jdoles: what else would you call it [19:35] palasso: my audio does not work. [19:35] palasso: I want it fixed. [19:35] palasso: fix it or help me, and I can help myself. [19:36] palasso: yet, all you do is trolling. [19:36] palasso: I disagree,somewhatbut the actions are there [19:36] shadeslayer: an assessment [19:36] shadeslayer: it's just something you take personally, which you shouldn't. [19:36] Perhaps everyone who can help works at Google and has an IQ over 150. [19:37] :/ [19:37] You shouldn't have any hard feelings about that. [19:37] telling people that try to help you that they don't know what they're doing is not particulary motivating, you know... [19:38] yofel: it isn't meant to be motivating. [19:38] being asked one and the same question by different people is annoying, sure [19:38] but not all people were in the channel last time you were asked or didn't read/notice it [19:38] yofel: not only the same question, but depending on the audience dumb questions too. [19:39] jdoles: then why would one treat volunteersthis way [19:39] shadeslayer: can you help with buildign a test package for the docbook? [19:39] yofel: meaning questions that anyone with an understanding of the domain would not ask. [19:39] hey so guess what there are like 2 people in all of Ubuntu who know how to fix audio drivers [19:39] One of them is currently deployed in Iraq [19:39] so? what do you expect? a set of highly trained IT professionals in a community support channel? [19:39] ahoneybun: gah, docbook, /me runs away [19:39] claydoh: just because you are a volunteer does not mean you can do a bad job. [19:39] lol [19:39] some people are that, but not everyone knows everything [19:39] I'm not touching that stuff ever again [19:39] claydoh: in the real world, you can also get fired from being a volunteer. [19:39] lol there you go [19:39] So, maybe you can go visit him on a military base in Iraq and get some help [19:39] but otherwise, just wait for his next shore leave [19:40] or maybe you know, post a question in askubuntu, file a bug, or a post on the forums [19:40] yofel: what about you? [19:40] jdoles: Most of the people in the support channels are just home-users who want to give back to the community. [19:40] he's one of the top 5 audio people for all of linux, really [19:40] so many support options [19:40] maco: this is not about audio drivers. [19:40] jdoles: inthe real world,I would ask you to leave my store and loose your business [19:40] jdoles: the interaction of pulse and drivers is always lovely fun [19:41] maco: it's about the infrastructure between generic drivers and pulse. [19:41] ahoneybun: I work in IT, but what I'm doing here is mostly learned by years of experience in volunteer work [19:41] i used to know how some of that works, because i lived with that audio guy and he taught me stuff [19:41] but i quit doing open source 2 years ago and life has been so much better since then [19:41] maco: one of these things is whether it runs as a system user or not, which my research says that it doesn't in Kubuntu. [19:41] pulse runs systemwide [19:41] But I am sure there are other properties which make it not work. [19:41] thats the case in ubuntu, kubuntu, whatever [19:41] on an related Audio note, has anyone used an external DAC with *buntu? [19:41] yofel: I got that branch set up btw [19:41] maco: that's not what the freedesktop.org page said. [19:42] hmm maybe i forgot then [19:42] maco: the permissions are set up like case 2. [19:42] ahoneybun: ah, did you find out what went wrong? [19:42] * ahoneybun does not know what a DAC is [19:42] jdoles: does /proc/asound/cards list your cards? [19:42] my sound's worked since i fixed my driver in 2008 so i stopped caring [19:42] ahoneybun: Digital to Audio Converter [19:42] yofel: not sure but I got it [19:42] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/PerfectSetup [19:42] oh ok [19:42] See that [19:42] shadeslayer: yes [19:42] well, that's good at least [19:42] ^ [19:42] Yes, I can think of that myself too. [19:43] * maco goes back to not giving a squirrel's toe about people who expect others to fix code for them [19:43] I am uncertain whether #pulseaudio does support [19:43] I don't want to crush your little souls, but I am intelligent, but I cannot guess how you randomly setup things. [19:43] but it's worth a shot [19:43] yofel: https://code.launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/kubuntu-docs/raring [19:43] and I am intelligent* [19:44] * claydoh goes and cooks dinner, not a pleasant bit of catchup after a 16 hour day in the warehouse w/o ac [19:45] * ahoneybun needs help testing his exported xml files for the DocBook [19:46] jdoles: look dude, this channel has 0 to do with pulse audio alright? it's ONLY about the kde desktop applications. it has JACK to do with the audio infrastructure, which is handled by an infrastructure team at Canonical [19:46] by which i really mean by one person on that team [19:46] who is very likely asleep right now, since he's in australia [19:46] maco: what is his name? [19:46] Luke [19:47] Really? No, wonder it works so badly. [19:47] audio has never, from what i can tell, been a true priority of canonical's [19:47] just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean it works badly [19:47] The servers just need to keep on running. [19:47] it works for numerous other people [19:47] for that matter, when luke gets a chance to get a breather from audio, he works on accessibility, which has ALSO never been a true priority [19:47] Ubuntu: Linux for servers :) [19:48] accessibility in ubuntu is in an absolutely abysmal state [19:48] Why did they ever market the desktop? [19:48] but try getting priority shifted away from unity [19:48] Or was that just a marketing technique? [19:49] people were still using windows xp, 2000, and 98 back when that marketing started [19:49] the bar was pretty crappy back then [19:49] Windows XP audio never failed ;) [19:49] well you needed to get a driver [19:49] But yes it has many other "issues". [19:49] but first you had to get online [19:49] OH BUT WAIT [19:50] you couldnt get online with windows xp because you needed to get online to download the driver to get online to download... hang on im reapeating myself [19:50] You also needed to install RAID drivers from a floppy. [19:50] ^^ [19:50] this is also going OT btw :P [19:50] Yes, yes, it was terrible. [19:50] When was it not OT. [19:51] maco: Good times, getting wifi drivers without wifi available :) [19:51] lordievader: wifi? who said wifi? [19:51] lordievader: xp didnt support ETHERNET [19:51] maco: For me it was allways the wifi :) [19:51] I don't get one thing: if you don't want to be an OS and don't want to change KDE, then what do you want to do? [19:51] ubuntu could at least use ethernet to get the wireless drivers [19:51] It seems that the empty set of activities remains then, [19:51] ScottK: do you guys have any use for my now-unused arm dev board,the imx-53? [19:51] Or you could become source committers for the various kde projects. [19:52] some of us have kde commit access [19:52] i might still [19:52] This is a reasonable suggestion, isn't it? [19:52] claydoh: Not really. [19:52] it's strongly encouraged in ubuntu-land to contribute upstream [19:52] ScottK: or is it now a bit out of date? [19:52] or was? i'm not sure it still is [19:52] ok, [19:52] If you don't at all have the intention to support an OS with all the manpower that needs, why do it? [19:52] claydoh: We don't have mx51/53 kernels in the archive. [19:52] (what with this stupid app store idea that doesnt involve submitting to debian first anymore) [19:53] jdoles: you know this ain't a support channel, right? [19:53] Clearly you describe yourself as someone who doesn't want to do that. [19:53] maco: yes, but you aren't developing an OS either. [19:53] maco: you only want to develop the applications. [19:53] maco: you don't need an OS for that. [19:53] And I need to rebuild eglibc for raring/saucy to make a custom version that will work on my mx51 efikas. [19:53] jdoles: sure i am, at my paid job, that has NOTHING to do with ubuntu or kubuntu except that many of us run it on our desktops :) [19:53] as for this channel... [19:53] the kubuntu team works with the ubuntu team to make the OS [19:54] most support for *ubuntu (dont care if that's xubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu...whatever) happens on AskUbuntu, in #ubuntu, or on the Ubuntu Forums [19:55] Or in their own support channels, like #kubuntu, #lubuntu, etc. [19:55] you're asking questions about stuff that has nothing to do with kde, you can use the generic ones just fine [19:55] maco: ScottK said earlier than I shouldn't ask Ubuntu about Kubuntu issues. [19:56] maco: but I suppose I could install Unity to keep up appearances. [19:56] maco: I also understand that all those systems are the same. [20:42] oh my goodness, just reading backlog [20:43] who has ops in this channel? [20:43] valorie: Riddell, i think [20:44] I do [20:44] well, trolls should not be allowed to kill everyone's enthusiasm, IMO [20:44] too late [20:44] yeah [20:45] I'm up to doing some work [20:45] let me just say to all the helpful people here without ops: I love you, and you create a wonderful system [20:46] and let's stop feeding trolls [20:46] valorie: I exported the xml with community.kde.org [20:47] great! [20:47] so where did you set that up? [20:47] thanks Tm_T [20:47] Tm_T: thanks [20:47] http://community.kde.org/Kubuntu-Docs/Raring [20:48] Tm_T: thanks that was not nice to see [20:48] yes I need to fix something I know [20:48] just ignore such rants [20:48] ahoneybun: did you talk to the www people before setting this up? [20:48] um [20:48] Tm_T: good advice [20:49] I was told to see how it worked [20:49] good reminder for everyone [20:49] ahoneybun: ? [20:49] valorie: no I did not... [20:50] my bad [20:51] imo it's worth talking to the experts [20:51] they are great people [20:51] what for permission or advice on how to make it better? [20:51] #kde-www? [20:52] yes [20:52] for permission to post there? [20:52] not so much permission, as fitting in with the administration of the wiki [20:52] advice then [20:52] now that you have a page, they can look at it [20:53] yea [20:53] it's possible they'll move the page to fit into the organization scheme [20:53] I just want to see if the xml file it shot out will work for what we need before I continue [20:55] cool [20:55] I don't know how to do that [20:55] thanks again for all the work you've been doing on this [20:55] ah, they can tell you that as well [20:55] I've forgotten [20:55] since I didn't blog about it [20:55] lol [20:56] lol [20:57] what do I say [20:57] like what am I trying to do [20:57] make a package? [20:57] send me a sandwich [20:57] ? [20:58] nvm ... [20:58] I get it [21:01] :-) [21:02] what am I doing, making a package? [21:06] valorie: can you jump in and help explain [21:08] since there is no news on the website, is kde 4.10.3 from ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa good to use (or test)? [21:08] Blizzz: I know somethings from 4.10.3 are on the kubuntu-backports PPA for 12.04 [21:09] i mean for 13.04 [21:09] yofel: ^ [21:09] Blizzz: I'm just saying that the backports have some of it [21:09] not sure about anything else [21:10] k [21:19] valorie: hmm problems on channel? [21:20] yes, you read my email? [21:20] Tm_T: quieted our troll, but ..... [21:20] Sometimes it's hard to tell who's a troll and who needs education. [21:20] (at least at first) [21:21] valorie: I'm happy to give ops to any kubuntu member [21:22] ScottK: sure [21:23] getting ops on a *buntu channel is a bit of a pain [21:23] hopefully someone else steps up! [21:23] mh [21:23] valorie: do you want ops? [21:23] Blizzz: it is usable, it's really only the news item that's missing [21:24] "one of you should be able to tell me (or better: give me the commands) how to correctly setup Pulse Audio in a way that works" [21:24] support [21:24] end of story [21:24] not today, but thank you for the trust, Riddell [21:24] valorie: if you get on the council you'll become op anyway :P [21:24] I'll reconsider if others don't step up [21:24] apachelogger: ha [21:24] it's not like we have a lack of ops in here [21:25] I did vote for myself, so I got at least one vote! [21:25] ^^ [21:25] In my case, I had a lack of knowing how to give myself +o. [21:25] if elected, I will take up ops, and make myself a cheat sheet [21:25] when crunch time comes, i can never remember the relevent commands either [21:26] valorie: likewise :P [21:26] 31 voters so far, so 1 is not an insignificant fraction of what it takes to win. [21:26] ScottK: msg ChanServ op #kubuntu-devel [21:26] ScottK: 31? only? :O [21:26] shadeslayer: Of 53. [21:26] we only have 53 Kubuntu members? [21:26] Yep. [21:27] "only" [21:27] quality > quantity [21:27] We are elite. [21:27] ^^ [21:27] Riddell himself says so. [21:27] and considering only 31 have voted so far I'll argue that quality needs evaluation ^^ [21:27] "Linux Mint 15 Most Ambitious Release Ever" [21:27] yofel: great, thank you for packaging :) [21:27] * shadeslayer falls of his chair [21:28] shadeslayer: I guess hoping for I hope in vain if I think of cleaned up packaging? [21:28] s/hope for// [21:28] yofel: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" [21:28] yofel: I don't think that's ever going to happen [21:29] but hey, they had over a 1000 commits in Cinnamon and MATE [21:29] http://ostatic.com/blog/linux-mint-15-most-ambitious-release-ever [21:29] bummer [21:29] PyQt5 needs packaging if you want to make a clean start on something. [21:29] the last people that advertised commits were some folks that makes something called trinity [21:30] *make [21:30] I've been slowly adding Kubuntu packaging to https://www.ohloh.net/p/kubuntu-packaging [21:30] did you know that agateau's laptop is called trinity :P [21:30] If you want to count commits ... [21:30] ruby : 8% [21:30] I bet that's all apachelogger's code [21:30] Yeah. [21:31] oh, oloh stats, nice [21:31] That or patches of crap upstream work. [21:31] Not done yet. Still adding packages. [21:31] :) [21:31] btw seems like Jessie A. Morris forgot to remove a patch from Amarok [21:32] which is a bit odd that it didn't fail to apply [21:32] lol, I'm second place in commit count o.O [21:32] Yeah, markey mentioned that earlier today. [21:32] yeah, I'm a bit surprised that the patch didn't fail to apply [21:33] yikes, my laptop is trying to kill me [21:33] just like the dishwasher at Pinea [21:33] *Pineda [21:34] the context is too ambigous [21:34] how is your laptop like a dishwasher? [21:34] it's not, both tried to kill me by zapping me with current [21:34] it simply successfully applied right below the same code [21:34] shadeslayer: What? Which patch was this? Cause Riddell handled the patches. [21:34] hah [21:35] shadeslayer, jessie: what happened: http://paste.kde.org/746000 [21:35] heh [21:35] context was just: [21:35] @@ -818,6 +818,20 @@ [21:35] } [21:35] } [21:35] [21:35] + { // remove