=== _croop is now known as croop === marlinc_ is now known as marlinc === remix_tj is now known as Guest61705 === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinhal is now known as Ursinha [02:17] Where can I find the authoritative documentation on creating a service in Ubuntu Server 12.04? Related: should I be creating the service as an "upstart" service? This isn't clear to me. [02:19] tohuw: hopefully useful: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ [02:19] I don't know if it is The Definitive Source, but it sure is useful :) [02:21] sarnold: Thank you, I'll read through this. [02:21] SpamapS: hey, your @canonical.com is still on the header at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ :) [02:53] sarnold: there's a bug link at the bottom... ;-) [02:53] SpamapS :) === Guest3570 is now known as kirkland === kirkland is now known as Guest50630 === kirkland_ is now known as kirkland [05:54] I am trying to deploy one web server cluster , can I put the shared mem-cache on one single server ? === Guest61705 is now known as remix_tj === megha is now known as hack === hack is now known as baba === gstudent2 is now known as germanstudent === antix is now known as 16WAAANUD [09:16] jamespage: Hey, do you fancy merging the nova and keystone security uploads into the pending SRU ones.. or shall we wait for adam_g ? [09:16] Daviey, I'll take a look in a bit [09:17] jamespage: ok, we should push out the sec uploads directly to the UCA. [09:18] Daviey, agreed [09:26] hi guys, I can't seem to do ./somelocalbinary even though its in my path [09:31] * koolhead17 pokes Daviey [09:38] anyone? [09:41] Daviey, keystone point release already includes the security fix [09:41] so do I just need to document that in the changelog? I guess so [09:42] jamespage: Probably fair to merge changelogs and make comment to it, without using valid LP synatx. [09:43] so, SRU orig changelog, jdstrand's then your brief message with LP: FOO ? [09:44] Daviey, okay [09:47] Daviey, "Make sure both public and admin API work with 1-way ipv6 & SSL. ... SKIP: Eventlet doesn't support IPv6, lp 1176204" [09:47] Launchpad bug 1176204 in keystone "keystone ipv6 tests fail" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1176204 [09:47] thats going to be an issue [09:48] (for our IPv6 testing plans that is) [09:48] jamespage: I'm not sure it is [09:48] I saw that go past, and discounted it as we are focusing on floating ip ipv6 this cycle, rught? [09:48] right* [09:48] Daviey, maybe [09:49] yeah - I guess thats enough [09:49] jamespage: There is a partial patch for eventlet ipv6 [09:49] it was on bitbucket, but they moved to github(? or somewhere), and lost the bug history === rocket is now known as Guest6819 [09:53] Daviey, moved on github somewhere [09:54] jamespage: can you review this please? Folsom CA + Security update, http://pb.daviey.com/7sc7/ (quantal-updates -> folsom CA, http://pb.daviey.com/2yV8/) [09:56] Daviey, so the security update will pull in the new point release as well? [09:56] is that what we did in distro? [09:56] and for giggles, *.changes http://pb.daviey.com/tNAr/ [09:56] jamespage: No [09:57] Daviey, duh - yeah - sorry getting my point releases confused [09:57] yeah, it's a little confusing - which is why i wanted a double check :) [09:57] Daviey, the changes needs -v2012.2.3-0ubuntu2 I think [09:57] hm [09:58] Ah yes [09:58] good catch [09:59] omg the keystone test suite takes some time [10:07] jamespage: what is missing? Some new dep got added :P [10:07] koolhead17, nothings missing I think [10:08] jamespage: happy to hear that :) [10:09] jamespage: pushed to -staging, when it's published - can you review into -proposed & fire off a jenkins job? [10:09] (keystone & nova for folsom and grizzly) [10:10] Oh curse. [10:10] keystone_2013.1-0ubuntu1.1~cloud0.dsc: Version older than that in the archive. 1:2013.1-0ubuntu1.1~cloud0 <= 1:2013.1.1-0ubuntu1~cloud0 [10:11] Daviey, yeah [10:11] I thought that might happen [10:11] you'll need to drop it from the PPA first [10:11] just did [10:12] Daviey, the reprepro sync from the proposed and staging ppa's will work OK with this right? [10:13] (I think it will - reprepro does not work quite like PPA's) [10:14] Daviey, OK - I've uploaded a rebased keystone for raring; just testing nova now [10:15] jamespage: it will at least work to -updates [10:15] as it isn't published there [10:17] jamespage: (we might need to go straight to updates, is what i think you are saying) [10:17] Daviey, I think it will be OK via proposed [10:19] Daviey, hmm - I just spotted a potential issue [10:19] not sure how much of a problem it actually is [10:19] Daviey, we don't push the new point releases into dev prior to SRU [10:19] which I think makes sense (as dev will shift to havana) [10:20] but we are in that pre-first milestone phase with upstream right now [10:20] jamespage: I am not terribly concerned by that TBH [10:20] Daviey, OK - nova/raring also rebased and re-uploaded [10:20] jamespage: if you want to upload it there aswell, i wouldn'tgrumble [10:21] Daviey, I'll do the same for folsom now [10:21] jamespage: where did you upload? [10:21] Daviey, raring-proposed [10:21] ok, cool [10:22] jamespage: Security uploads re-done to staging [10:22] Daviey, okies [10:37] Daviey, keystone/quantal-proposed uploaded; just waiting on nova/quantal tests to complete [10:39] Daviey, I think we need a less awkard way to deal with security fixes into the UCA [10:39] Daviey, like the security team do we should have XXX-security PPA -> XXX-updates [10:39] bypassing -proposed and avoiding all this deleting package non-sense [10:44] jamespage: that sounds a good idea [10:44] jamespage: preparing the updates is quite gentlemanly now [10:45] jamespage: folsom-security-staging ? [10:45] Daviey, yeah [10:47] Daviey, OK - nova/quantal-proposed uploaded as well [10:47] I updated the lab branches with the revised changelogs [10:49] yolanda, care to review -https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/ceilometer/refresh-patches/+merge/164341 [10:49] ta [10:49] sure [10:51] jamespage, we will be adding mongo as default? [10:51] yolanda, no [10:52] Daviey, OK - this sucks as for some reason the tooling is still seeing the old source packages in the staging PPA [10:53] jamespage: might need to wait for the publisher? [10:53] Daviey, maybe [10:54] +----------+-----------------------------------------------------+----------+ [10:54] | package | staging | proposed | [10:54] +----------+-----------------------------------------------------+----------+ [10:54] | nova | 2012.2.3-0ubuntu2.1~cloud0 | None | [10:54] | keystone | 2012.2.3+stable-20130206-82c87e56-0ubuntu2.1~cloud0 | None | [10:54] looks right to me? [10:55] Daviey, the grid is OK but when I query the changelog it brings back the most recent versioned one [10:55] ah [10:55] indeed [10:58] jamespage: I suspect this is a bug in LP tbh. === Mez_ is now known as Mez [10:59] Daviey, I think its just the changelog retrieve bit; the copy-package call under the hood appears todo the right things [11:00] Daviey, trying now - it will send the wrong email content but I can live with that for the time being [11:01] jamespage: hmm [11:02] wait a min [11:02] Daviey, I think I see the problem in the code as well [11:02] jamespage: It grabs the Publication by name [11:03] Daviey, yeah - it does not include the version [11:03] [0] is latest normally - which in this case is incorrect [11:03] yeah [11:04] We know the version, so matching on version should do the trick... i'd think [11:07] jamespage: I'd argue that LP isn't DTRT here, as the original version is no longer Published. [11:07] Daviey, OK - I have a fix for the tool [11:07] super [11:07] version=XXX on getPublishedSources [11:07] I'll sync up the grizzly security fixes to proposed now [11:11] Daviey, okies - that is working [11:11] tooling pushed [11:11] I also added the security-staging -> updates workflow [11:13] Daviey, hmm - lab seems unhappy [12:32] jamespage: unhappy? [12:41] jamespage, bug 1164739 [12:41] Launchpad bug 1164739 in linux "Can not mount cephfs in VM from cloud image" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1164739 [12:42] jamespage, is that something you could verify as fixed? [12:42] smoser, ^ ? (i see you have comments on that bug) [12:43] hi guys, do you know how I can get mod_proxy_fcgi for apache? [12:43] bjf, i'll get that done. [12:43] smoser, awesome [12:44] ak5: i believe there's a package to install it... [12:44] but i might be wrong [12:45] TheLordOfTime: I see, I just reralized I am in apache 2.2 [12:45] that might be the problem [12:45] are there repos for 2.4 for 12.04 ? [12:47] ak5: i dunno, but i don't use apache so... xD [12:47] nginx then? [12:47] yep i'm an nginx user :P [12:48] ... that reminds me... note to self: push patch to nginx devel branch ppa... [12:49] ak5: you could always search "apache 2.4 ppa ubuntu" and see what comes up on google [12:49] you might find a PPA for it. [12:49] but... [12:49] ~ppa [12:49] erm [12:49] !ppa [12:49] A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [12:49] ^ that [12:49] TheLordOfTime: Error: "that" is not a valid command. [12:49] shut up uvirtbot [12:49] Daviey, dunno - I know adam_g and smoser where working on some sort of issue yesterday [12:50] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2011603 <- this doesn't look very promising [12:50] jamespage: ah ok [12:50] they should be here soon [12:50] jamespage, we're closer === wedgwood_away is now known as wedgwood [12:55] Daviey: about the nginx support thing, would the mailing list be a good place to start the discussion, or should I wait until Tuesday? [12:55] i ask because Tuesday's election day where I am, and I might be busy [12:55] (and might miss the server team meeting :/) [12:56] How do backports work? I uncommented them in sources.list, now I apt-get update'd [12:56] now will it just install all kinds of backports on upgrade? [12:56] or do I need to choose specific ones [12:56] /s/need/can/ [12:56] ak5: what version of ubuntu are you on [12:56] 12.04 [12:58] TheLordOfTime: ^ [12:58] i believe the policy is written that unless you specify the package from backports it won't install from backports [12:58] but i can't be certain [12:58] but i'm not certain, since if I want something from backports i usually dump it into a PPA of my own [13:00] TheLordOfTime: ok, then how do I search backports? [13:01] ak5: if you're looking for backported apache 2.4 there is none [13:01] TheLordOfTime: jesus [13:01] from source it is I guess [13:01] ak5: not everything get's backported [13:01] ;P [13:01] this seems like so big of a deal [13:03] apache 2.4 isn't in Ubuntu at all. In Debian it's in experimental. [13:04] Presumably because of the wheezy freeze. [13:05] When was 2.4 released as stable upstream? I wonder if we should sync 2.4 from experimental, but it's quite an involved package, there may be upgrade path issues and I'm not sure it's worth going out on a limb for that. [13:06] Oh and I guess we have a delta to forward port too. [13:11] well, in itself, using the debian package worked well for upgrade [13:12] but attempting to sync in all the other packages, like php and all the modules, become a real pain [13:12] I put 2.4 in a ppa for me to play with over a year ago [13:21] TheLordOfTime: mailing list is always a good place :) [13:22] hmm, I have apache 2.4 for 12.04 in my ppa :) [13:22] the real question is, why are you looking for apache 2.4? [13:23] if it's for pci compliance, your solving this the wrong way [13:23] I have had soo many emails asking about my apache 2.4 ppa cause of people attempting to solve pci issues [13:29] patdk-wk__: that's interesting. Why does using < 2.4 cause people PCI concerns? [13:32] it shouldn't :) [13:32] the issue is, the pci compliance companies do scans [13:32] and to be quick and efficient, they only check the version of the software in use [13:33] they don't check if you patch it for known CVE's [13:33] therefor you always fail, unless you have the latest version, and you have to file a report to them, showing the ubuntu CVE patchs made to your version [13:34] so when they get the failure report, and it says, fixed in apache 2.4, they attempt to install that :) instead of knowning that the version they have is already fixed [13:41] Oh I see - thanks [13:45] uh we just had an earthquake tremors [13:47] zul: nothing on http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/ [13:48] rbasak: dude my house was shaking :) [13:48] like 2 minutes ago [13:49] Computer says no :-P [13:50] zul, could easily be mining operations [13:50] road construction, ... [13:50] rbasak: https://twitter.com/CANADAquakes [13:50] no it was an earthquake [13:51] Automatic detection of seismic event: magnitude 4.8 - 17 May 9:43 EDT - BRAESIDE, ON region === resno_ is now known as resno [14:20] Hello everyone. [14:20] Need emergency help with recovering RAID1 on Ubuntu 12.04 [14:21] Having 2 RAID1: md0 and md1 [14:22] 1 disk was down few hours ago [14:22] The file system became read-only [14:22] cat /proc/mdstat [14:22] Personalities : [raid1] [linear] [multipath] [raid0] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid10] [14:22] md0 : active raid1 sdb1[1] [14:22] 975296 blocks super 1.2 [2/1] [_U] [14:22] [14:22] md1 : active raid1 sdb2[1] [14:22] 975653696 blocks super 1.2 [2/1] [_U] [14:22] [14:22] unused devices: [14:23] then I made mdadm --assemble -scan -v [14:23] and mdadm -A --scan [14:23] after that [14:23] cat /proc/mdstat [14:23] Personalities : [raid1] [linear] [multipath] [raid0] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid10] [14:23] md126 : active raid1 sda1[0] [14:23] 975296 blocks super 1.2 [2/1] [U_] [14:23] [14:23] md127 : active raid1 sda2[0] [14:23] 975653696 blocks super 1.2 [2/1] [U_] [14:23] [14:23] md0 : active raid1 sdb1[1] [14:23] 975296 blocks super 1.2 [2/1] [_U] [14:23] [14:23] md1 : active raid1 sdb2[1] [14:23] 975653696 blocks super 1.2 [2/1] [_U] [14:23] [14:24] unused devices: [14:24] Where the md126 and md127 appeared from? [14:24] This is not my raid as I only had md0 and md1 [14:24] !pastebin | vlad_sta_ [14:24] vlad_sta_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [14:25] Sure. Sorry about that [14:26] vlad_sta_: doesn't look too good [14:26] I'd say, first run smartctl -x on /dev/sda and /dev/sdb [14:26] pastebin that [14:26] !pastebinit | vlad_sta_ [14:26] vlad_sta_: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com [14:27] vlad_sta_: looks like it's rather confused - md126-127 is apparently the other side of the mirror [14:27] http://pastebin.com/mLgtWEvD [14:28] RoyK: Could you guide me a bit about how serious is this problem and what are the first aid here? [14:29] vlad_sta_: check the drives first. something has happened. you shouldn't just assemble a raid if a drive is kicked out [14:29] btw, pastebin dmesg output [14:29] smartctl -x /dev/sda [14:29] bash: /usr/sbin/smartctl: Input/output error [14:30] jamespage: bug 1181135 - looks like he's using the quantal HWE stack on Precise. Is our position that he needs to downgrade to the 3.2 kernel if he wants to build open-vm-dkms? [14:30] Launchpad bug 1181135 in open-vm-tools "open-vm-dkms 2011.12.20-562307-0ubuntu1: open-vm-tools kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1181135 [14:30] dmesg [14:30] Traceback (most recent call last): [14:30] File "/usr/lib/command-not-found", line 21, in [14:30] from CommandNotFound.util import crash_guard [14:30] ImportError: No module named CommandNotFound.util [14:30] Error in sys.excepthook: [14:30] Traceback (most recent call last): [14:30] File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/apport_python_hook.py", line 66, in apport_excepthook [14:30] from apport.fileutils import likely_packaged, get_recent_crashes [14:30] ImportError: No module named apport.fileutils [14:30] Original exception was: [14:30] !pastebin | vlad_sta_ [14:30] vlad_sta_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [14:30] Traceback (most recent call last): [14:30] File "/usr/lib/command-not-found", line 21, in [14:30] from CommandNotFound.util import crash_guard [14:30] vlad_sta_: stop spamming! [14:30] ImportError: No module named CommandNotFound.util [14:31] oops too much [14:31] RoyK: absolutely sorry about that [14:31] vlad_sta_: generally, more than 2 lines should go to pastebin [14:31] I guess you'll have to reboot that thing [14:31] try 'reboot' [14:31] RoyK: I got it first time you pointed me. This time was a mistake [14:32] reboot [14:32] bash: /sbin/reboot: Input/output error [14:32] if that doesn't work, press and hold alt+sysrq (print screen) and type S U B while holding [14:32] RoyK: I have remote KVM there, but I'm on Mac and don't know where is sysrq [14:32] jamespage: it might be an idea to document this on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack too [14:33] vlad_sta_: then 'echo s > /proc/sysrq-trigger' [14:33] then echo u .. then echo b [14:33] as above [14:33] does anybody run a mdraid-1 array of Samsung 840PRO? what speeds are you getting? [14:34] vlad_sta_: in the state it's now, echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger should do [14:34] I made remotely by ssh echo s > /proc/sysrq-trigger && echo u > /proc/sysrq-trigger && echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger [14:35] after that I lost connection to the server [14:35] yes [14:35] oh rebooting [14:35] fine [14:35] b is reboot [14:35] RoyK: this magic is awesome. Don't know what it was [14:37] vlad_sta_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [14:39] vlad_sta_: so, did it boot correctly_ [14:39] ? [14:39] No [14:39] How can I paste image here? [14:39] !imgpaste [14:39] hm. dunno [14:40] !screenshots | vlad_sta_ [14:40] vlad_sta_: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it. [14:40] http://cl.ly/image/1W1k2v3e2O1e [14:41] try rebooting into single [14:41] http://cl.ly/image/1r0r2V432u3o [14:41] type exit [14:42] default config in ubuntu is for some moronic reason not to boot correctly if a raid is degraded [14:42] To be clear, config is 2 HDD + RAID1 + encryption + LVM [14:42] shouldn't matter [14:43] RoyK: the reason is that raid is encrypted. I had the same result when I was installing this server and testing how raid works. I set explicitly to load in degraded mode, but 12.04 LTS has a kinda bug with that (as read in forums) [14:44] RoyK: rebooting in single (recovery) mode [14:44] works for me, though [14:44] RoyK: what version is your ubuntu? [14:44] lots :) [14:45] Lucky you then :-) [14:46] but typing exit from the recovery prompt should make it boot normally [14:46] the same thing [14:46] it waiting for encryoted and busybox then [14:47] while loading it showed error reading ata2 drive [14:47] I'll reboot and try to screenshot it [14:47] probably a bad drive, then [14:47] RoyK: I think it could be that [14:48] well, that's why you're using raid, isn't it? ;) [14:48] Sure! [14:48] anyway - whatever you have on top of the md raid shouldn't matter [14:49] http://cl.ly/image/2Q2O2i2w113a [14:50] RoyK: ok. I'm just newbe to Raid and just started digging deeper inside Linux (reading huge book now) [14:50] ok [14:50] for linux raid specific stuff, it's sometimes easier to get good answers on #linux-raid [14:51] RoyK: Thanks a lot! [14:52] Could you recommend some other good channels on linux and related? [14:52] not sure - it all depends what you want to know. there are hundreds [14:53] rbasak, otp right now - give me 10 mins [14:53] np [14:53] RoyK: I'm not ready to answer this question right now [14:53] RoyK: so I have to go to obtain new hdd and then goto data-center... [14:54] it should be possible to boot the system with one drive in that mirror [14:54] RoyK: so having looking to the last boot screen, what do you think had happen? [14:55] just did a wee test on a raid test vm on precise (12.04), set boot_degraded=on and removed a drive, dd'ed a bunch of zeros on it and rebooted [14:55] came up [14:55] RoyK: If it possible it would be awesome. Currently the system falls down to busybox (initramfs) [14:55] type exit [14:55] it should continue [14:59] oops timeout [14:59] RoyK: http://cl.ly/image/1B1U42450j2T [14:59] im tryin to write a bash script to capture the hostname - HOSTNAME=`hostname` isnt working [14:59] i also tried "`hostname`" [15:02] resno: just tried HOSTNAME=`hostname`; echo $HOSTNAME [15:02] works for me... [15:02] hmm, then ive done something else wrong [15:02] i have many /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start process, are normal? [15:03] hXm: no [15:03] hXm: pastebin 'ps axf' [15:04] http://pastebin.com/cBPUVDbx [15:04] oh [15:04] the tclsh script is allowed, the SCREEN too [15:04] those are ok [15:05] it's just apache starting a some listening processes [15:05] ah [15:05] RoyK: i missed typed the variable lol [15:05] mistyped* [15:05] ;) [15:05] good, thanks [15:05] hXm: apache normally starts a few processes to balance incoming requests [15:06] ah ok, so i dont scare [15:06] if traffic grows, the number of processes will grow, and then lessen again if traffic decreases [15:11] as long as apache isnt going "crazy" [15:11] resno: never seen that ;) [15:12] havent seen it today ;) [15:12] resno: what do you mean "go crazy"? [15:13] when to many people hit it and it makes more processes then the machine can handle [15:13] default installation with little tinkering of workers [15:13] and the machine just doesnt kill them off as it should [15:17] resno: if you have low memory, reduce MaxClients in the apache config [15:17] resno: it's not apache's fault, it's the admin's fault, as usual ;) [15:17] but of course [15:18] im a admin learning as i go :) [15:18] i've tested my setups enough to realize a few tweaks to make apache not kill a server [15:18] hi, does kvm support cpu hotplug? [15:19] mndo: afaik, no [15:19] mndo: there's been some talk about it, but I don't think there's anything there yet. try #virt @ OFTC.net [15:19] I can't remember if the linux kernel supports cpu hotplug even [15:20] patdk-wk__: it's been supporting cpu hotplug for a decade or so [15:20] http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/CPUHotPlug [15:21] ah, like memory, still need to online them manually [15:22] should be doable with some kvm guest utils [15:22] I wonder if a udev rule could be made to bring hotplug memory/cpu online automatically === Walther_ is now known as Walther [16:01] ok, udev rules work to online cpu/memory on add, seems to work good, as long as the memory hotplug module is loaded before you add ram [16:06] Hi, can I upgrade using apt-get upgrade, so that also recommended packages are installed? They are left out and --install-recommends won't work on upgrade it seems. [16:06] krababbel: Why do you think packages are being left out? [16:07] krababbel, no you can't [16:07] the whole point of upgrade is NOT to install new packages [16:07] Pici: I tried aptitude before, but didn't install, just looked in the list it would install. I showed packages which would be recommended after the upgrade, which would not be installed by an apt-get upgrade. [16:08] patdk-wk__: OK, I see. [16:08] you need dist-upgrade to install new stuff, but not sure if you will have the *same* issue still [16:08] krababbel: 'upgrade' will never install new packages, only new versions for existing packages. [16:08] upgrade will only upgrade things that don't need new items :) [16:08] Thanks, I will try dist-upgrade too. [16:08] I don't believe dist-upgrade will, but it solves half the issue :) [16:09] I purposely don't install recommended packages for many things, cause I don't want them [16:09] and dist-upgrade doesn't bring them in [16:09] but probably an option to do that [16:09] You can just re-do an install and include --install-recommends there. [16:10] OK, thank you for your help. :) [16:16] rbasak, OK === bean__ is now known as julian-delphiki [16:21] rbasak, there are lot of those on 12.04 with the enablement kernel [16:21] (s) [16:21] the DKMS modules package should be fixed to work with the newer versions - that what we did with ovs and iscsitarget [16:29] stgraber: if you're not playing with the staging tree right now, i coudl quickly revert, add your ack, and push --force [16:30] hallyn: not playing with it, so if you want to add the ack, go ahead [16:31] k done [16:33] hi [16:38] jamespage: OK, thanks. Presumably using the original kernel, if possible, is a suitable workaround then? [16:38] yes [16:38] Got it. [16:38] I think there is a segment of users who want todo this sort of stuff who don't really need the HWE kernels [16:39] they should stick on 3.2 IMHO [16:48] I have attempted to upgrade to the newer kernel on a few vm's, so that I could get the newer network stack, as it helps a lot [16:49] but open-vm-tools dkms breaks badly doing that [16:49] haven't revisited since that failed attempt [16:54] jamespage: some discussion of DKMS and HWE in #ubuntu-kernel atm [16:56] jamespage: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5674611/ [16:57] jamespage: 17:57 openvswitch is probably the module that we care about the most. I'll ask jamespage about it. [17:07] adam_g: derp https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/cinder/cinder-ftbfs-pbr/+merge/164464 [17:10] jamespage: you should probably read the #ubuntu-kernel logs when they appear. And lurk there, too :) [17:11] Sorry if I confused matters. [17:19] adam_g: fixed [17:22] anyone in here got much experience with ZFS? [17:23] got an issue with trying to expand zfs pool/fs on top of a hardware raid5 that has been expanded (JBOD isnt an option because of the controller) [17:23] ...and cant remove the disk from the raid5 now [17:31] foxbuntu: has the raid capacity been extended? [17:31] * RoyK knows a wee bit about zfs [17:32] any easy way to unencrypt a home dir? [17:32] done using the installation time encryption [17:32] irv: rsync -avPHA /somewhere/else # ;) [17:32] ahh that's what i figured :P [17:32] kk [17:32] spinnin up a new vm now [17:32] :D [17:33] RoyK, yes, the raid5 logical volume has been extended [17:33] RoyK, so we went from 3tb to 4tb [17:35] virtualization is the new thing! I mean, IBM hasn't been doing it for more than three decades ;) [17:35] foxbuntu: zpool set autoexpand=on [17:35] iirc [17:36] RoyK: but they cheated, they designed their chips to be virtualizable without any extra hassle. :) [17:36] RoyK, then just export/import? or is it all automagic? [17:36] should be no need for export/import [17:37] try zpool list [17:37] RoyK, cool, thanks. I will give it a shot [18:10] adam_g: ping it got resubmitted to the right branch can you have a look please? [18:38] foxbuntu: any luck? [18:51] so forgive me because it's friday afternoon here, but I seem to remember something about the ubuntu cloud images no longer being produced. Is this correct? [18:53] balloons: timestamps still look new: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/ [18:53] RoyK, havent had a chance to test it yet...gotta try off hours... [18:53] sarnold, ty :-) [18:56] RoyK: Hello again! I changed faulted HDD to the new one and partitioned it as it should be: 1GB boot,raid + 999GB raid. No file system formatted. [18:58] vlad_starkov: perhaps something borked in the encryption part [18:58] dunno [19:13] If I build a kernel and some modules on one machine how can I package it all up into a deb file for redistribution onto different machines with the same hardware? [19:14] JoeyJoeJo: investigate the kernel-package pacakge. [19:14] thanks === markthomas1 is now known as markthomas === roniez_ is now known as roniez [20:48] Question: mdadm. I'm in initramfs shell. I just successfully launched recovery process. No it's about 10% done. Can I type exit and reboot to normal system and be sure that everything will be recovered properly? [21:09] Question: can anyone explain me how it is possible that after I changed faulty HDD in my RAID1 and launched recovery process, after system boot I have clear system with no software and my data like????? [21:22] vlad_starkov: what do you mean? [21:25] RoyK: I have a server with 2 HDD built to RAID1+encryption+LVM. One HDD was failed. mdadm was shoing that raid is stopped. I changed it with the new one and reassembled the raid. After that mdadm showed that raid is active and new hdd is recovering now. [21:26] I reboot to normal mode and I see there is no software [21:26] actually there is only 1 user of several that system was supported before disk fail [21:26] I can't understand what's going on.... [21:27] RoyK: As I think the system should boot normally OR do not boot at all. [21:37] vlad_starkov: seems to me you had a faulty array in the first place [21:38] RoyK: hmmm.... [21:38] how to check it? [21:38] vlad_starkov: I guess it was dead for some time and that the data resides on the other drie [21:38] Hi good people, do you have a zsync link for 12.04.2 ? I'm struggling. [21:38] drive [21:38] RoyK: this looks the most reasonable cause of the problem... [21:41] vlad_starkov: try to remove the other drives and boot on the old one [21:41] vlad_starkov: I've seen similar stuff happening before, but not on linux [21:44] RoyK: the recovering process is still on. I think of this strategy: remove old drive from the server. One more time repartition the new drive that I installed after raid failure. Then clone the drive, that I removed initially and thought that IT WAS failed, to external disk. Then put it back to the server and reassemble the array. [21:56] vlad_starkov: try booting on the old drive first [21:56] if the data is there, the new stuff won't matter [21:57] make a backup, as in copying it to somewhere else, and fix the mirror [21:57] don't try to do magick with the existing stuff === wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away [22:06] RoyK: what is the better way to make backup from old drive? [22:45] RoyK: Can I "hot swap" a regular HDD by unplug it from motherboard cords and then plugin another HDD? Is it fine for working server? [22:46] if the drivers support it, yes [22:46] SATA is hotplug by design [22:46] vlad_starkov: but in your case, better reboot into the old drive [22:47] you can't hotswap mounted filesystems on single drives [22:47] RoyK: I'd like to make a backup copy of the old drive before recover the RAID [22:47] RoyK: I mean boot with USB flash (Ubuntu Live) and hot swap disks [22:49] vlad_starkov: raid isn't backup [22:49] keep that in mind [22:49] backup your data to something and then try to recover the raid [22:49] RoyK: Yep, it's like insurance [22:49] no, it's not, backup is insurance [22:50] or the step before it [22:50] raid is like safety belt [22:50] RoyK: I have free healthy HDD that i'd like to use to clone old disk to it. And then begin recovery process [22:50] if recovery fail the old disk for some reason, I'll have cloned disk [22:51] RoyK: nice [22:54] RoyK: I made a short script that I used to successfully launch recovery process. Did I miss something? http://pastebin.com/irJ3JxFU [22:56] I wonder why you should need that [22:56] md devs are automatically assembled [22:56] except nested ones, a bug [22:58] see bug 1171945 [22:58] Launchpad bug 1171945 in mdadm "Nested RAID levels aren't started after reboot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1171945 [23:01] RoyK: On Ubuntu 12.04 Server md devs don't automatically assemble after fail if md is encrypted [23:07] secondary server for 12.04.2 is now mirrored at http://phillw.net/isos/ubuntu-server/ === skarface is now known as antix [23:35] RoyK: When I make sudo ddrescue -v /dev/sda /dev/sdb it says Output file exists and is not a regular file. Use `--force' if you really want to overwrite it, but be aware that all existing data in output file will be lost. [23:35] RoyK: should I add -f key? [23:36] vlad_starkov: do you truly intend to overwrite the hard drive /dev/sdb and not just make a new file in the filesystem that is already on /dev/sdb? [23:36] sarnold: oh. sure I do [23:36] thanks! [23:36] vlad_starkov: then go for it :) [23:39] sarnold: cloning... [23:41] sarnold: Don't you know, Ubuntu determine the drive name (sda,sdb,sdc...) just randomly and it doesn't bounded to SATA port on motherboard? [23:42] RoyK: it's cloning 1Tb... for the moment, I'd like to thank you for your help and advices. It was extremely helpful for me. [23:43] vlad_starkov: this is currently under discussion: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-May/037084.html [23:43] vlad_starkov: but I believe the current behaviour will be retained for the time being... [23:43] For the moment there is no errors while cloning.... It will be funny if I've removed the wrong drive initially) [23:44] hehe, "funny" :) [23:45] sarnold: so the current behaviour is like a just wrote above? [23:46] vlad_starkov: as I understand it, yes; /dev/disk/* has 'stable' names available.. [23:46] sarnold: mmmm, I didn't understand then [23:47] vlad_starkov: ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/ will explain :) === rocket_ is now known as Guest58080 [23:47] sarnold: ok then [23:48] Am I right thinking that instead of doing md array recovering, I can just clone current disk to another and plug it in?