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knightwisemorning everyone04:34
kaushalHi05:12
kaushalHi07:14
SuperMatthello07:15
kaushalis there a way to focus pidgin Conversation IM window in raring running unity shell?07:15
kaushalSuperMatt: hi07:15
kaushalhttp://i.imgur.com/AdX5ila.png is the screenshot07:15
SuperMattI'm slightly confused by what  you're acking07:16
SuperMatt*asking07:16
kaushalSuperMatt: apologies07:16
kaushalSuperMatt: whenever any buddy contact me in Pidgin IM chat, the window is hidden07:17
kaushalso i do ALT-TAB to look for the conversation IM window07:17
SuperMattright, but you want them to be autofocused?07:18
kaushalthe issue here is i try to miss some important conversation07:18
kaushalSuperMatt: yes07:18
SuperMattI'm not sure, tbh07:18
kaushalSuperMatt: the screenshot i pasted07:18
kaushalstill doesnot solve the issue07:18
SuperMattooooh07:19
kaushalSuperMatt:  http://i.imgur.com/AdX5ila.png07:19
SuperMattuntick focused windows and only when someone says your username07:19
SuperMattbecause I think you're saying you want to be focused only when it's already focused07:19
kaushalSuperMatt: ok07:20
SuperMattI'm not 100% positive on that, but it does seem like you're going a bit over kill07:20
kaushalSuperMatt: it used to work on 11.1007:20
SuperMattI'm sure, but 13.04 is a very different beast07:20
kaushalbut somehow does not work for me in 13.0407:20
SuperMattany reason you're not using epiphany?07:21
kaushalepiphany?07:21
SuperMattno, not epiphany07:21
SuperMattempathy07:21
kaushalok07:22
kaushalI am comfortable using pidgin07:22
kaushalSuperMatt: I am sure there is a config issue07:22
SuperMattprobably07:22
SuperMattyou might be better off asking in pidgin related channels07:23
kaushalSuperMatt: ok07:35
diploMorning all07:48
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MooDoohello all08:13
shrikhi MooDoo08:14
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shrikIn the movie Olympus Has Fallen, they call the '#' a hashtag08:18
shrikI think I cried a little08:18
shrikbut then I was crying anyway because I was wasting my life in that film, so sunk cost and all that.08:19
MooDoolol08:19
MooDooawww bless ;)08:19
JamesTaitGood morning all! Happy Friday, Happy Endangered Species Day and Happy World Information Society Day! :-D08:20
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brobostigongood morning everyone,08:43
BigRedSGoood Morning!08:47
brobostigongood morning BigRedS08:47
BigRedSmorning brobostigon! How's things?08:49
brobostigon<----- hangover central.08:49
brobostigonand i have a cold.08:50
brobostigon:(08:50
BigRedSAh, not a great combination. Hangovers do usually follow good times, though :)08:53
brobostigon:)08:54
brobostigonBigRedS: yes, me and two friends, came second in quiz at local last night.08:55
BigRedSAhhh, not bad08:57
brobostigonyep.08:58
AlanBellhttps://youngrewiredstate.org/festival-of-code any younger folks or offspring interested in coding might like this09:35
* mungbean is waiting until it is socially acceptible to ride a push scooter thing to work10:10
mungbeani saw 2 people doing it today, needs more ppl doing it10:11
mungbeaneasier than boris bike and you can take it on the train easier than a folding bike10:11
mgdmit's surely not acceptable if you're older than say 1410:11
BigRedSthose micro scooters?10:12
davmor2Morning all10:12
mungbeanyeah those type of things, although i saw 2 guys today riding not so micro ones10:13
mungbeanhttp://www.skates.co.uk/scooters/microblack-foldable-scooter.html10:14
mungbeanwould be great riding round campus on it10:16
mungbeanbut i don't usually care what people think, i think this is too far until there is more acceptance10:16
shaunowhy not be the egg instead of the chicken?10:20
mgdmI would, no doubt, break myself with one of those10:21
diddledaneggs are chickens.. very young chickens10:21
mungbeanbecause although folding bikes a la brompton are accepted, the scooter would make me a laughing stock10:25
mungbeanalthough i would get to work quicker and without the tube10:25
mungbeanfor reasons that mgdm said10:26
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dwatkinsbrobostigon: I was supposed to go to the pub last night, but seem to have trapped a nerve, so I'm currently wishing I did have a hangover instead of being essentially immobilised :-/10:27
brobostigondwatkins: eeek :(. get well soon.10:28
dwatkinsOn the plus side, I was able to get an appointment this afternoon, my doctor is clearly doing her part for Scottish independence...10:28
brobostigon:)10:28
dwatkinscheers, just means I can't really move. I may have to bang loudly on the floor to indicate to the guy shouting downstairs that he should really shut up...10:28
dwatkins...fun times with considering calling environmental health10:29
dwatkinsThankfully, I just got 70 MBit fibre broadband :D10:29
brobostigon:)10:30
diplomungbean: I know quite a few people who use scooters to get to work10:39
diploI've used my kids in the past :)10:39
diploIf you look at a few of the reviews on amazon etc quite a few people comment on there saying they use it for exactly that10:40
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)10:43
mungbeanmaybe i need to get a job in the shoreditch area10:45
mungbeanalthough i'd have to grow a groomed beard and skintight trousers without socks10:45
mungbeannot sure i could do that10:45
mgdmIf you're concerned about using a scooter to get to work I think going that far might be a little extreme10:49
mungbeanhave you been to bethnal green lately?10:52
mungbeanits all skintight trousers and manbags10:52
mungbeanapple macs and trimmed beards10:52
mungbeanits not a good look but nobody seems to notice10:52
dwatkinsuse a tricycle instead!10:53
dwatkinsI have a Mac, should I stop shaving?10:53
mgdmget a unicyle10:53
mgdmand I'm typing this on a Mac, maybe I need to stop shaving too10:53
mungbeanhmm £20 in my amazon gift cert account..10:55
diddledanI've got a mac, and a full bear-beard10:55
diddledanI'm not using it atm tho10:56
mungbeanfull beard doesn't count10:56
diddledanphew10:56
mungbeanthe hipster look is to get it close trimmed while still being beardy10:56
mungbeanstubble - hipster - old man - rms - bin laden10:57
brobostigonhow do i make folders in /var/www writable by apache ?10:57
mungbeanapart from the obvious?10:57
bigcalmbrobostigon: sudo chown -R apache: /var/www10:57
brobostigonbigcalm: thank you.10:57
bigcalmmungbean: but the user is generally www-data10:58
mungbeanchgrp wwwadmin -R /var/www; chmod g+w /var/www10:58
mungbeanchgrp www-data10:58
mungbeanand apache to www-data10:58
mungbeanadd10:58
bigcalmOops, tab complete fail on my part10:58
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mungbeanhybrid bike/scooter thing: http://www.outsideconnection.com/gallant/hpv/kick/kickbike.jpg11:05
bigcalmIs that a postman's bag on the front? That would be a perfect use for it11:06
davmor2Morning bigcalm11:07
bigcalmAfternoon davmor211:07
bigcalmdavmor2: did I miss much after leaving on Wednesday?11:08
bigcalmdavmor2: did Adam try to chat up Page?11:08
davmor2bigcalm: no but he went into motormouth debase mode and just couldn't stop digging the whole :D11:18
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* AlanBell grumbles at libnotify11:41
AlanBellstupid popups get in the way, go blurry when you hover over them, are not usefully clickable and *stay* longer when you hover over them because you want to click something under them that you can't see because of the blurry mess over the top11:42
AlanBellmoving out of the way would be better than going blurry so you can neither read them or click on the stuff below them11:43
diddledanAlanBell, that's not how it's supposed to work? I figured I was missing the point somehow11:43
AlanBellthat is working exactly as designed11:43
diddledanI guess I'm still missing the point then - like you11:43
AlanBellthey are supposed to blur when you hover over them, clicks go through them to the thing under11:43
diddledanaaah11:44
diddledanso it's the clicky click that's broken11:44
AlanBellno, not broken, they are not supposed to be interactive11:44
AlanBellbroken by design perhaps, but the implementation is not broken11:44
shaunomoving out the way would be awesome.  I'm so used to being able to dismiss them on my regular platform, that I'd be chasing them around the screen trying to get the (x) to appear on mouseover11:45
diddledanshauno, you're masochistic!11:47
AlanBellthink I might go back to gnome shell for a bit11:48
shaunodiddledan: you know me too well, that's cheating.11:48
diddledan:-p11:49
TheOpenSourcererha: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-2256765613:31
kvarley-workI need to get the system cpu usage as a number in order to display a web based graph of it. How can I do this? I'm using sar 0 at the moment but I need to filter everything out apart from the number13:41
mungbeanaveraged over how long?13:42
kvarley-workmungbean: Just what's happening currently, 1 second I guess.13:47
Daraelkvarley-work: Looking at the output of sar.sysstat 0, a job for awk?13:52
kvarley-workDarael: Yeah sounds about right. I'm not quite sure how to get the value though as there is no leading value to filter by. I guess I would need to jump between the ines and columns?13:53
mungbeanuse vmstat 1 |  suitable awk command?13:54
BigRedSdepends how you define 'system cpu usage'13:57
mungbeankvarley-work: i used to use a programme called SARge which plotted this for you. other newer versions are available13:58
DaraelIf we *assume* that sar.sysstat 0 includes the specific number kvarley-work is after, given that this is what they said they were using...13:58
mungbeanyou don't have to write it yourself13:58
BigRedSah yeah, kvarley-work your problem is basically solved by munin14:04
BigRedS(and cacti and all the rest, but I like munin)14:05
directhexmunin /o\14:05
Laneymoonin14:09
mungbeanmoomin14:11
directhexmumintroll!14:12
BigRedSis there something wrong with munin?14:15
mungbeanboooooooooored14:26
mungbeanhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Screen-Allwinner-1-0GHz-Android-Tablet/dp/B0099NPR4S/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1368800920&sr=8-15&keywords=nook14:30
mungbean£35 tablet?14:30
mgdmIt won't be worth what you pay for it :-)14:37
AlanBelldepends on your expectations14:39
mungbeanvs nook simple14:40
mungbeanif your expectations are just reading books in bed at night..14:41
AlanBell. . . then you want a higher resolution screen14:41
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funkyHat3 hour battery life? :(15:57
funkyHatOtherwise it doesn't actually look that bad15:58
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dwatkinshttp://linkxs.org/freezing-a-raspberry-pi-in-liquid-nitrogen/17:01
MartijnVdSಠ_ಠ17:02
dwatkinsindeed17:02
bigcalmI'm really poop at the "waiting for elevator" section of HL2 ep1 :(17:31
bigcalmOnly thing I'm good at is dying quickly17:31
dwatkinsbigcalm: that's one of my favourite bits, it's really dark and scary17:32
* bigcalm grumbles17:32
MartijnVdSthe flares are useful17:32
MartijnVdSthey burn zombies and give light17:32
MartijnVdSalso, exploding stuffs++17:33
MartijnVdSjust hold a flare with the gravity gun17:33
MartijnVdSand then walk near a zombie17:33
knightwisehmm.. I wonder if my I3 laptop could run team fortress17:37
MartijnVdSknightwise: is it sandy bridge/ivy bridge or haswell?17:37
bigcalmI had to dial down all of the settings to have HL2 ep1 run at all on my i3 laptop17:37
MartijnVdSIt won't run on my i5 at home because it's pre-SB and too old :(17:38
knightwisedunno actually17:38
MartijnVdSwell it runs, but badly17:38
knightwiseits a hasswell17:38
MartijnVdSthose arent released until next month!17:38
knightwiseI have a masochistic trait of tryin to run crud on hw thats too light for it17:38
knightwisewhile i have powerfull machines lying around upstairs17:39
dwatkinsI can run HL2 on my quad core core2duo desktop.17:48
dwatkinsI guess the fact it has a fairly beefy AMD graphics card helps.17:48
MartijnVdSdwatkins: yeah, the intel graphics are my problem17:50
DaraelI'm only using my laptop these days.  And I can really see the difference in games when I run Steam with primusrun.17:51
MartijnVdSprimusrun?18:03
MartijnVdSah.. nvidia thingy18:04
DaraelYeah.  Optimus is annoying, but at least Bumblebee works quite effectively these days.18:04
MartijnVdSIf I have money left over after this week-long road trip through the south of England, I'm upgrading to Haswell18:05
bigcalmMade it past. That was painful18:09
MartijnVdS\o/18:09
MartijnVdSbigcalm: heart rate: 232 bpm?18:09
bigcalmHeh18:09
bigcalmMartijnVdS: no, thankfully. I've had to play that bit so often that it doesn't get my heart racing18:10
MartijnVdSfirst time I played it though...18:15
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mungbeangot my g+ single column back, phew20:10
Myrttimeh20:20
Myrttianyone seen this: http://www.fairphone.com/ yet?20:53
ballWhat's one of those?20:54
Myrttilooks like an android20:59
ali1234ubuntu has it's own printer settings dialogue which is specifically hidden from gnome and kde22:11
ali1234that effectively means it is only accessible through unity22:12
ali1234the one provided by gnome cannot detect USB printers22:12
ali1234so to all those people saying "if you don't like unity you can just install another desktop, there is no need to switch distro" i say "yes, if you don't ever want to print anything"22:13
ali1234oh good. the printer doesn;t work anyway22:33
ali1234what version of cups is included in the 12.04.2 live cd?22:35
ali1234not one that works apparently23:29

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