[04:34] <knightwise> morning everyone
[05:12] <kaushal> Hi
[07:14] <kaushal> Hi
[07:15] <SuperMatt> hello
[07:15] <kaushal> is there a way to focus pidgin Conversation IM window in raring running unity shell?
[07:15] <kaushal> SuperMatt: hi
[07:15] <kaushal> http://i.imgur.com/AdX5ila.png is the screenshot
[07:16] <SuperMatt> I'm slightly confused by what  you're acking
[07:16] <SuperMatt> *asking
[07:16] <kaushal> SuperMatt: apologies
[07:17] <kaushal> SuperMatt: whenever any buddy contact me in Pidgin IM chat, the window is hidden
[07:17] <kaushal> so i do ALT-TAB to look for the conversation IM window
[07:18] <SuperMatt> right, but you want them to be autofocused?
[07:18] <kaushal> the issue here is i try to miss some important conversation
[07:18] <kaushal> SuperMatt: yes
[07:18] <SuperMatt> I'm not sure, tbh
[07:18] <kaushal> SuperMatt: the screenshot i pasted
[07:18] <kaushal> still doesnot solve the issue
[07:19] <SuperMatt> ooooh
[07:19] <kaushal> SuperMatt:  http://i.imgur.com/AdX5ila.png
[07:19] <SuperMatt> untick focused windows and only when someone says your username
[07:19] <SuperMatt> because I think you're saying you want to be focused only when it's already focused
[07:20] <kaushal> SuperMatt: ok
[07:20] <SuperMatt> I'm not 100% positive on that, but it does seem like you're going a bit over kill
[07:20] <kaushal> SuperMatt: it used to work on 11.10
[07:20] <SuperMatt> I'm sure, but 13.04 is a very different beast
[07:20] <kaushal> but somehow does not work for me in 13.04
[07:21] <SuperMatt> any reason you're not using epiphany?
[07:21] <kaushal> epiphany?
[07:21] <SuperMatt> no, not epiphany
[07:21] <SuperMatt> empathy
[07:22] <kaushal> ok
[07:22] <kaushal> I am comfortable using pidgin
[07:22] <kaushal> SuperMatt: I am sure there is a config issue
[07:22] <SuperMatt> probably
[07:23] <SuperMatt> you might be better off asking in pidgin related channels
[07:35] <kaushal> SuperMatt: ok
[07:48] <diplo> Morning all
[08:13] <MooDoo> hello all
[08:14] <shrik> hi MooDoo
[08:18] <shrik> In the movie Olympus Has Fallen, they call the '#' a hashtag
[08:18] <shrik> I think I cried a little
[08:19] <shrik> but then I was crying anyway because I was wasting my life in that film, so sunk cost and all that.
[08:19] <MooDoo> lol
[08:19] <MooDoo> awww bless ;)
[08:20] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Friday, Happy Endangered Species Day and Happy World Information Society Day! :-D
[08:43] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[08:47] <BigRedS> Goood Morning!
[08:47] <brobostigon> good morning BigRedS
[08:49] <BigRedS> morning brobostigon! How's things?
[08:49] <brobostigon> <----- hangover central.
[08:50] <brobostigon> and i have a cold.
[08:50] <brobostigon> :(
[08:53] <BigRedS> Ah, not a great combination. Hangovers do usually follow good times, though :)
[08:54] <brobostigon> :)
[08:55] <brobostigon> BigRedS: yes, me and two friends, came second in quiz at local last night.
[08:57] <BigRedS> Ahhh, not bad
[08:58] <brobostigon> yep.
[09:35] <AlanBell> https://youngrewiredstate.org/festival-of-code any younger folks or offspring interested in coding might like this
[10:10]  * mungbean is waiting until it is socially acceptible to ride a push scooter thing to work
[10:11] <mungbean> i saw 2 people doing it today, needs more ppl doing it
[10:11] <mungbean> easier than boris bike and you can take it on the train easier than a folding bike
[10:11] <mgdm> it's surely not acceptable if you're older than say 14
[10:12] <BigRedS> those micro scooters?
[10:12] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:13] <mungbean> yeah those type of things, although i saw 2 guys today riding not so micro ones
[10:14] <mungbean> http://www.skates.co.uk/scooters/microblack-foldable-scooter.html
[10:16] <mungbean> would be great riding round campus on it
[10:16] <mungbean> but i don't usually care what people think, i think this is too far until there is more acceptance
[10:20] <shauno> why not be the egg instead of the chicken?
[10:21] <mgdm> I would, no doubt, break myself with one of those
[10:21] <diddledan> eggs are chickens.. very young chickens
[10:25] <mungbean> because although folding bikes a la brompton are accepted, the scooter would make me a laughing stock
[10:25] <mungbean> although i would get to work quicker and without the tube
[10:26] <mungbean> for reasons that mgdm said
[10:27] <dwatkins> brobostigon: I was supposed to go to the pub last night, but seem to have trapped a nerve, so I'm currently wishing I did have a hangover instead of being essentially immobilised :-/
[10:28] <brobostigon> dwatkins: eeek :(. get well soon.
[10:28] <dwatkins> On the plus side, I was able to get an appointment this afternoon, my doctor is clearly doing her part for Scottish independence...
[10:28] <brobostigon> :)
[10:28] <dwatkins> cheers, just means I can't really move. I may have to bang loudly on the floor to indicate to the guy shouting downstairs that he should really shut up...
[10:29] <dwatkins> ...fun times with considering calling environmental health
[10:29] <dwatkins> Thankfully, I just got 70 MBit fibre broadband :D
[10:30] <brobostigon> :)
[10:39] <diplo> mungbean: I know quite a few people who use scooters to get to work
[10:39] <diplo> I've used my kids in the past :)
[10:40] <diplo> If you look at a few of the reviews on amazon etc quite a few people comment on there saying they use it for exactly that
[10:43] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:45] <mungbean> maybe i need to get a job in the shoreditch area
[10:45] <mungbean> although i'd have to grow a groomed beard and skintight trousers without socks
[10:45] <mungbean> not sure i could do that
[10:49] <mgdm> If you're concerned about using a scooter to get to work I think going that far might be a little extreme
[10:52] <mungbean> have you been to bethnal green lately?
[10:52] <mungbean> its all skintight trousers and manbags
[10:52] <mungbean> apple macs and trimmed beards
[10:52] <mungbean> its not a good look but nobody seems to notice
[10:53] <dwatkins> use a tricycle instead!
[10:53] <dwatkins> I have a Mac, should I stop shaving?
[10:53] <mgdm> get a unicyle
[10:53] <mgdm> and I'm typing this on a Mac, maybe I need to stop shaving too
[10:55] <mungbean> hmm £20 in my amazon gift cert account..
[10:55] <diddledan> I've got a mac, and a full bear-beard
[10:56] <diddledan> I'm not using it atm tho
[10:56] <mungbean> full beard doesn't count
[10:56] <diddledan> phew
[10:56] <mungbean> the hipster look is to get it close trimmed while still being beardy
[10:57] <mungbean> stubble - hipster - old man - rms - bin laden
[10:57] <brobostigon> how do i make folders in /var/www writable by apache ?
[10:57] <mungbean> apart from the obvious?
[10:57] <bigcalm> brobostigon: sudo chown -R apache: /var/www
[10:57] <brobostigon> bigcalm: thank you.
[10:58] <bigcalm> mungbean: but the user is generally www-data
[10:58] <mungbean> chgrp wwwadmin -R /var/www; chmod g+w /var/www
[10:58] <mungbean> chgrp www-data
[10:58] <mungbean> and apache to www-data
[10:58] <mungbean> add
[10:58] <bigcalm> Oops, tab complete fail on my part
[11:05] <mungbean> hybrid bike/scooter thing: http://www.outsideconnection.com/gallant/hpv/kick/kickbike.jpg
[11:06] <bigcalm> Is that a postman's bag on the front? That would be a perfect use for it
[11:07] <davmor2> Morning bigcalm
[11:07] <bigcalm> Afternoon davmor2
[11:08] <bigcalm> davmor2: did I miss much after leaving on Wednesday?
[11:08] <bigcalm> davmor2: did Adam try to chat up Page?
[11:18] <davmor2> bigcalm: no but he went into motormouth debase mode and just couldn't stop digging the whole :D
[11:41]  * AlanBell grumbles at libnotify
[11:42] <AlanBell> stupid popups get in the way, go blurry when you hover over them, are not usefully clickable and *stay* longer when you hover over them because you want to click something under them that you can't see because of the blurry mess over the top
[11:43] <AlanBell> moving out of the way would be better than going blurry so you can neither read them or click on the stuff below them
[11:43] <diddledan> AlanBell, that's not how it's supposed to work? I figured I was missing the point somehow
[11:43] <AlanBell> that is working exactly as designed
[11:43] <diddledan> I guess I'm still missing the point then - like you
[11:43] <AlanBell> they are supposed to blur when you hover over them, clicks go through them to the thing under
[11:44] <diddledan> aaah
[11:44] <diddledan> so it's the clicky click that's broken
[11:44] <AlanBell> no, not broken, they are not supposed to be interactive
[11:44] <AlanBell> broken by design perhaps, but the implementation is not broken
[11:45] <shauno> moving out the way would be awesome.  I'm so used to being able to dismiss them on my regular platform, that I'd be chasing them around the screen trying to get the (x) to appear on mouseover
[11:47] <diddledan> shauno, you're masochistic!
[11:48] <AlanBell> think I might go back to gnome shell for a bit
[11:48] <shauno> diddledan: you know me too well, that's cheating.
[11:49] <diddledan> :-p
[13:31] <TheOpenSourcerer> ha: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22567656
[13:41] <kvarley-work> I need to get the system cpu usage as a number in order to display a web based graph of it. How can I do this? I'm using sar 0 at the moment but I need to filter everything out apart from the number
[13:42] <mungbean> averaged over how long?
[13:47] <kvarley-work> mungbean: Just what's happening currently, 1 second I guess.
[13:52] <Darael> kvarley-work: Looking at the output of sar.sysstat 0, a job for awk?
[13:53] <kvarley-work> Darael: Yeah sounds about right. I'm not quite sure how to get the value though as there is no leading value to filter by. I guess I would need to jump between the ines and columns?
[13:54] <mungbean> use vmstat 1 |  suitable awk command?
[13:57] <BigRedS> depends how you define 'system cpu usage'
[13:58] <mungbean> kvarley-work: i used to use a programme called SARge which plotted this for you. other newer versions are available
[13:58] <Darael> If we *assume* that sar.sysstat 0 includes the specific number kvarley-work is after, given that this is what they said they were using...
[13:58] <mungbean> you don't have to write it yourself
[14:04] <BigRedS> ah yeah, kvarley-work your problem is basically solved by munin
[14:05] <BigRedS> (and cacti and all the rest, but I like munin)
[14:05] <directhex> munin /o\
[14:09] <Laney> moonin
[14:11] <mungbean> moomin
[14:12] <directhex> mumintroll!
[14:15] <BigRedS> is there something wrong with munin?
[14:26] <mungbean> boooooooooored
[14:30] <mungbean> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Screen-Allwinner-1-0GHz-Android-Tablet/dp/B0099NPR4S/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1368800920&sr=8-15&keywords=nook
[14:30] <mungbean> £35 tablet?
[14:37] <mgdm> It won't be worth what you pay for it :-)
[14:39] <AlanBell> depends on your expectations
[14:40] <mungbean> vs nook simple
[14:41] <mungbean> if your expectations are just reading books in bed at night..
[14:41] <AlanBell> . . . then you want a higher resolution screen
[15:57] <funkyHat> 3 hour battery life? :(
[15:58] <funkyHat> Otherwise it doesn't actually look that bad
[17:01] <dwatkins> http://linkxs.org/freezing-a-raspberry-pi-in-liquid-nitrogen/
[17:02] <MartijnVdS> ಠ_ಠ
[17:02] <dwatkins> indeed
[17:31] <bigcalm> I'm really poop at the "waiting for elevator" section of HL2 ep1 :(
[17:31] <bigcalm> Only thing I'm good at is dying quickly
[17:32] <dwatkins> bigcalm: that's one of my favourite bits, it's really dark and scary
[17:32]  * bigcalm grumbles
[17:32] <MartijnVdS> the flares are useful
[17:32] <MartijnVdS> they burn zombies and give light
[17:33] <MartijnVdS> also, exploding stuffs++
[17:33] <MartijnVdS> just hold a flare with the gravity gun
[17:33] <MartijnVdS> and then walk near a zombie
[17:37] <knightwise> hmm.. I wonder if my I3 laptop could run team fortress
[17:37] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: is it sandy bridge/ivy bridge or haswell?
[17:37] <bigcalm> I had to dial down all of the settings to have HL2 ep1 run at all on my i3 laptop
[17:38] <MartijnVdS> It won't run on my i5 at home because it's pre-SB and too old :(
[17:38] <knightwise> dunno actually
[17:38] <MartijnVdS> well it runs, but badly
[17:38] <knightwise> its a hasswell
[17:38] <MartijnVdS> those arent released until next month!
[17:38] <knightwise> I have a masochistic trait of tryin to run crud on hw thats too light for it
[17:39] <knightwise> while i have powerfull machines lying around upstairs
[17:48] <dwatkins> I can run HL2 on my quad core core2duo desktop.
[17:48] <dwatkins> I guess the fact it has a fairly beefy AMD graphics card helps.
[17:50] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: yeah, the intel graphics are my problem
[17:51] <Darael> I'm only using my laptop these days.  And I can really see the difference in games when I run Steam with primusrun.
[18:03] <MartijnVdS> primusrun?
[18:04] <MartijnVdS> ah.. nvidia thingy
[18:04] <Darael> Yeah.  Optimus is annoying, but at least Bumblebee works quite effectively these days.
[18:05] <MartijnVdS> If I have money left over after this week-long road trip through the south of England, I'm upgrading to Haswell
[18:09] <bigcalm> Made it past. That was painful
[18:09] <MartijnVdS> \o/
[18:09] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: heart rate: 232 bpm?
[18:09] <bigcalm> Heh
[18:10] <bigcalm> MartijnVdS: no, thankfully. I've had to play that bit so often that it doesn't get my heart racing
[18:15] <MartijnVdS> first time I played it though...
[20:10] <mungbean> got my g+ single column back, phew
[20:20] <Myrtti> meh
[20:53] <Myrtti> anyone seen this: http://www.fairphone.com/ yet?
[20:54] <ball> What's one of those?
[20:59] <Myrtti> looks like an android
[22:11] <ali1234> ubuntu has it's own printer settings dialogue which is specifically hidden from gnome and kde
[22:12] <ali1234> that effectively means it is only accessible through unity
[22:12] <ali1234> the one provided by gnome cannot detect USB printers
[22:13] <ali1234> so to all those people saying "if you don't like unity you can just install another desktop, there is no need to switch distro" i say "yes, if you don't ever want to print anything"
[22:33] <ali1234> oh good. the printer doesn;t work anyway
[22:35] <ali1234> what version of cups is included in the 12.04.2 live cd?
[23:29] <ali1234> not one that works apparently