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kvothetechRiley_88: no idea then ...i'm stil on grub legacy but you should be able to edit a file like 10-custom somewhere and putin 3.800:00
usr13kvothetech: grub2's default is /etc/default/grub00:02
kvothetechusr13: kk wel i'd put 3.8 in there then00:02
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usr13kvothetech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/00:03
dr_willis  it may be a good idea to read up on the grub2 config guides. befor messing with that file. ;)00:03
dr_willisand  make backups of anything you change.00:03
Riley_88brb00:03
fractalineis it best to get rid of kernels not in use?  i noticed i still have many00:03
usr13kvothetech: I'm wrong, it's   /boot/grub/grub.cfg00:03
kvothetechusr13: dr_willis I'm just fine with menu.lst and my old grub :)00:03
dr_willisold grub iss very annoying in many ways.. grub2 is just annoying in differnt ways00:04
dr_willisbut grub2 can do some amazeing things once you learn it00:04
kvothetechdr_willis: like? every time i've tried it i ended up at basically an unbootable system...grub1 i just put in what i want in my menu.lst and it goes.00:04
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dr_williskvothetech:  grub2 can boot iso files.. i use that feature all the time.. its also smarter about what it can boot and with a lot of the newer raid/efi/other new things.. its needed00:05
dr_willistheres amany more  reasons the grub devs basicvally moved to grub2 ... a00:05
dr_willisthe way menu.lst was formated.. was also very.. weird in many ways00:06
lahwranif I understand correctly, 10.04 desktop lost support last month. are the repos still fully online, though?00:06
Riley_88still didnt do it00:06
lahwranalso, where can you find archives of very old ubuntu repos?00:06
Riley_88usr13 is there a way to just remove the kernel from the lis00:06
usr13Riley_88: What did you try?00:06
kvothetechdr_willis: i'm sure theres good reasons too and i'll be forced to some time just..haven't hit that wall :) just like udev and persistant naming..which is'nt persistant but besides that point hs alot of advantages people just hate it00:06
dr_willislahwran:  eventually they will get moved to some archive.ubuntu.com server00:06
dr_willislahwran:  not sure if they have moved yet or not..00:07
Riley_88what u had before00:07
Riley_88list00:07
usr13Riley_88: WHat version of Ubuntu is it?00:07
Riley_8813.0400:07
lahwrandr_willis: so I could still install and use 7.10 if I wanted to, I'd just have to change /etc/apt/sources.whateveritis in order to do so?00:07
Riley_88it shows 3.9.2 and 3.8.0-21 generic00:07
lahwranobviously it'd be crazy to connect such a machine to the internet, but it could be done00:07
Riley_88then 3 8 1900:07
dr_willislahwran:  you could.. but i dont see the reason in using  a 5 year old distro00:07
lahwrannostalgia, of course :p00:08
kvothetechlahwran: why would you want to ?00:08
Riley_88i can get it to boot to lightdm on 3.9.2 but my keyboard and touchpad dont work00:08
lahwranI just said.00:08
dr_willis!EOL00:08
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades00:08
dr_willisthe last url there. mentuons the archiuve servers00:08
lahwranah, thanks00:08
usr13Riley_88: what does uname -r say right now?00:08
Riley_883.8.0-19 generic00:09
lahwrandr_willis: the current situation is I'm mucking with a 10.04 desktop that I don't have time to upgrade, and I just need to test something real quick00:09
Riley_88i have to manually select it in advanced options00:09
usr13Riley_88: Which kernel is the one that is broken?00:09
Riley_883.9.2 a00:09
Riley_88and 3.8.0-21 generic00:09
usr13Riley_88: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-extra-3.8.0-21-generic00:10
Riley_88says its not installed00:11
Riley_88i had to reinstall 13.0400:11
loganleecan u run linux kernel inside windows?00:11
mdfeloganlee, You can use virtualbox to run a linux vm from within windows00:12
usr13Riley_88: pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg  #Send resulting URL00:13
fractalineis it best to get rid of kernels not in use?  i noticed i still have many00:14
fractalinesorry for repeat00:14
Riley_88usr13 http://dpaste.com/1170349/00:15
Birdohey everyone I'm having nvidia optimus video driver issues - after installing bumblebee I boot into a command line. Before doing this the xubuntu loading screen had graphic glitches w/ nouveau - and after installing bumblebee I could actually see it, so I think this might be some sort of conflicting driver issue?00:15
anonymou1How can I create an Ubuntu USB installer from FreeBSD?00:15
gordonjcpanonymou1: dd if=/path/to/ubuntu/iso of=/path/to/usb/stick00:15
Riley_88anonymou1 i believe freebsd supports dd00:16
Birdobtw I'm on Xubuntu 13.0400:16
Riley_88so u could probably just dd the iso to the flash drive00:16
anonymou1Ah they're hybrid images?00:16
anonymou1That makes my life easier.00:16
gordonjcpthey are00:17
anonymou1Haven't used Ubuntu in a few years.00:17
anonymou1Interested to see where it's at/00:17
Riley_88usr13 did u get that00:18
kvothetechusr13: nsahoo any luck00:18
Riley_88i should be able to just delete the section00:18
Riley_88right00:18
kvothetechRiley_88: yes but like i said i don't use grub2 so no idea...i think you have to run update grub too00:18
kvothetechRiley_88: bit like lilo but....again could be wrong00:19
mdfeRiley_88, if you sudo update-grub it should scan for the kernel images and build the boot list00:19
Riley_88i tried that00:20
mdfeprobably one the kernel images is broken if it's not being added correctly00:20
mdfeRiley_88, you're holding shift to get a boot menu or letting it autostart?00:21
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BirdoDo I need to blacklist nouveau to get nvidia drivers working? This doesn't automatically happen when you install nvidia drivers?00:22
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Riley_88usr13 are u still there00:25
newbuntuanyone know why my ubuntu amd64 ISO only has 1 folder? called efi?00:29
dr_willisyou are looking at the boot partition on it perhaps?00:30
dr_willisinstead of the actual datga partition?  ive nevver really tried to mount the iso image lately00:30
newbuntuopened with ultraISO and says disk is fill 695mb but only EFI folder00:30
dr_willishow are you examing the iso file?00:30
dr_willissounds like ultraiso is looking at it incorectly perhaps..00:30
newbuntuwith ultaISO00:30
dr_willischeck the md5sum of the iso file. test it in virtualbox perhaps to verify its good00:31
newbuntuah great idea virtualbox00:31
newbuntutyvm00:31
dr_williswhat ubuntu release is that iso?  ubuntu 13.04 is larger then 695mb00:31
newbuntu12.0400:31
newbuntui tried 13.04 but have major sound issues00:32
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FloodBot1!netsplit00:33
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baordogHey, I'm having a crash where Ubuntu loads weird random pixels00:34
baordogI get as far as the login screen00:34
baordogand it tries load, and produces the random pixels00:34
baordogIt's on an old Janky computer00:34
baordogany ideas?00:34
TheLordOfTimeA netsplit happens when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki00:34
TheLordOfTime(sorry, ubottu's down!  :/)00:34
newbuntuenjoy the show lol00:35
YoMommaN00b question - Where does e-mail get it's time stamp (Sending client, SMTP Server, POP/IMAP Server)?00:35
dr_willisnewbuntu:  for hdmi sound in 13.04 i had to use the    .9 kernel from a ppa.. i  got the info from askubuntu.com00:35
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newbuntuso that is a known issue then not just me? lol00:36
dr_willisnewbuntu:  its a well known issue with HDMI audio. a fix is supposed to be getting released.. i just got sick of waiting and used the  maintreak kernel from kernel.ubuntu.org i think00:36
dr_willismainstream00:36
newbuntuthats great tyvm i might just try 13.04 again00:37
newbuntuseemed faster than 12.0400:37
baordogAnyone have an idea about my random pixels? I'm sure someone has seen something like this before00:37
dr_willisall i did to 'fix' it was dosnload 4 .deb files from that kernel site and dpkg -i *   them.. ;) but im not sure how that will affect updates.. so  thats why i dont knwo if an official update has came out yet or not00:37
dr_willisbaordog:  what is your video chipset? that will be the #1 thing to determine00:38
baordogI can't tell. Computers old. Like I said, it used to work.00:38
dr_willislapci will tell you00:38
dr_willis'lspci'00:38
baordogThat would be great if the operating system would load00:38
baordogbut like I said, I just get random pixels00:39
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dr_willis!text | baordog00:39
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baordog!text00:39
dr_willisuse the text mode or recovery mode to get to a console and use the command lspci00:39
dr_willisits at the grub menu..00:39
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baordogok00:39
dr_willisor boot any old live cd that worked.. and use the command00:40
baordogbut why would my chipset matter? It's worked for months00:40
dr_willisif one of those does work.. see what modules the thing is using and what video driver00:40
baordogBecause the login screen does load00:40
baordogI can feel it trying00:40
dr_willisfor all we know - it could be a dieing video card or cable...  you will have to do some tests to see00:40
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dr_willisif you get it to the console.  install the ssh server. so you can ssh in to it while its running and look and try things00:41
baordogWell that would suck. The thing has integrated graphics00:41
baordogThat much I remember00:41
dr_willisyou coudl also try any older kenels listed in the grub menu and see  if any of the old ones work.. if an old kernel does work. but a newer one does not.. that would point to a driver issue00:43
baordogok I'm in the recovery menu00:44
baordogwhere do I switch on text mode?00:44
baordogroot?00:44
dr_willisrecovery should have some item to get to a shell. i dont have its menus menoruised00:44
dr_willisi tend to just use text mode. ;)00:45
baordognvidia corporation c61 [Geforce 614OSE nforce 430]00:46
baordogThat appears to be the video card00:46
dr_willisyou may want to try the 'nomodeset' option when booting if the gfx is currupted.. or if you feel lucky jusst try instlling the 'nvidia-current' drivers00:47
dr_willissafest would  be to try 'nomodeset' then the addational-drivers tool00:47
baordogwhat's that?00:47
dr_willisunless you have installed the drivers in the past from nvidia.com using their .run drivers..00:48
newbuntuty "dr_willis" virtualbox boots the ISO so must have been the way ultraiso was displaying it. thanks again!00:48
dr_willislook for 'nomodeset' on the ubuntu wiki page /askubuntu.com  it will show how to tell grub to use the nomodeset option00:48
baordogis there a command to get back to grub?00:48
dr_willisat the grub mennnu - you hit 'e' to edit the boot item and  change the text to read  'quiet splash nomodeset'   then boot the  entry00:49
dr_willisnewbuntu:  im not even sure why you were looking at it with ultraiso ;)00:49
baordogright00:50
baordogbut now I'm in the root terminal thing. How do I get back?00:50
dr_willisyou mean how to you 'reboot'  ?00:50
dr_willisthe reboot command.. reboots the pc..00:50
dr_willisor try exit to get back to the recovery menu00:51
baordogthat did it00:51
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MysticalBurritoHello?01:00
SparkySparkyBoomMysticalBurrito: hello01:00
MysticalBurritoCould someone direct me to a chat where I can get help with my phone?01:00
MysticalBurritoI've been searching for one for the past half hour01:01
SparkySparkyBoomMysticalBurrito: if this channel is dead, your best bet for this sort of question is #freenode01:01
raijinMysticalBurrito: we are talking about phones in #eligius01:01
MysticalBurritoThanks for the help01:01
fractalinewhich phone MysticalBurrito ?01:02
dr_willistheres the #android channel also.01:05
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dr_willistheres been some netsplits in the last hour ot 2 also.. so a lot of the channels may be split off01:06
FogHornLegHornhi, can someone help me out with the powermanagment options.. or how do i add extra options. i dont want it to hibernate when i shut the lid and there are no options for this that i see.01:10
wilee-nileeFogHornLegHorn, settings-power has a lid close dropdown.01:11
wilee-nileename your release and desktop as well, if you do not find this.01:12
dr_willisyou may need to have a swap partion larger then your rram size (by a little bit) in order for some of the options to appear01:12
FogHornLegHornwilee-nilee, im must not have that program, is it gtk, and what is the name of the program that runs it so i can apt-get it01:14
dr_willisgtk is not a desktop or release....01:14
dr_williswhat does lsb_release -a say about your ubuntu version, and what desktop are you running01:15
FogHornLegHornme? i know im asking him if the option is in a gtk menu01:15
FogHornLegHornor terminal thing01:15
dr_willisfor Unity  - it should be in the top right settings menu area.01:15
dr_willisunder system settings01:15
FogHornLegHorni have gnome01:16
dr_willisunity uses gnome/gtk so everything is in a gtk menu... ;)01:16
FogHornLegHornunity noty01:16
dr_willisthere should be some 'system settings -> power' or similary named item01:16
dr_willisbbl01:20
yofuneh01:23
yofunops01:23
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Merovingiansdoes anyone know if the applications configurations in ufw support multiple interfaces? or does everything at that level need to be done with iptables?01:29
wab#hlfs01:48
histoMerovingians: It appears it may according to the man pages01:55
histoMerovingians: By default, ufw will apply rules to all available interfaces. To  limit01:56
histo       this,  specify  DIRECTION on INTERFACE, where DIRECTION is one of...01:56
MerovingiansI can see that using the command line interface you can use ufw to specify that information01:56
Merovingiansbut if I am writing a config file for each of the applications, I am not finding anything regarding how to do that within an applications file01:57
Merovingiansit looks like I would have to switch to shorewall if I wanted that level of configuration, or move to iptables itself without ufw...01:57
James_EppSo I am trying to make a pxe server for starting ubuntu installs (just a personal project). I have successfully booted the desktop installer with NFS. I would now like to get the alternate installer to get booted. I am seeing many tutorials which are using a 'linux' file for their KERNEL. I just downloaded the alternate.iso but there is no 'linux' file. Where can I find this kernel?02:00
dr_williscould be the docs are old, ive seen the kernel file called vmlinuz and other variations also02:01
James_EppDisregard my last question, guys. Found the file.02:01
dr_willis;)02:01
usr13!alternate | James_Epp02:02
ubottuJames_Epp: The alternate CD has been discontinued for the main Ubuntu distro, please use and report any bugs in the !LiveCD02:02
dr_willisubuntu keeps triming away more and more with each release. ;)02:02
James_Eppusr13: I am using 12.04 alternate. Is it just not supported, or has the team completely quit making them in general?02:02
dr_willisas of 12.10 i think the alt cd is gone.02:03
James_Eppadding on to that.....the reason I am using the alternate is because on some machines (not even old machines) I get the following result: I boot the cilent into pxe and nfs just fine....but when we are just about to get into the xorg stuff, it gives me this error: http://goo.gl/uS1sM02:04
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Braden`Hello02:06
Braden`I just installed Ubuntu 13.04 fresh, and whenever it tries to load xwindows, I just see a blinking cursor and nothing else02:06
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Braden`It doesn't continue to load02:07
Braden`I just see a blinking cursor02:07
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OerHeks!nomodeset02:08
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter02:08
Braden`The system boots fine02:08
Braden`Its only after it gets done loading everything else02:08
OerHeksthis occurs before login?02:08
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Braden`yes02:09
brian_petersen<brian_petersen> I am using ubuntu-server as a home server with nginx installed. I want to be able to setup subdomains and be able to access them with a domain that I have. I am using a dyndns service that always points to my dynamic ip, and I have a cname record subdomain from my purchased domain to my dyndns domain. That works just fine, but when I try to setup a second subdomain in the nginx conf, I always get the same 'server02:09
brian_petersen' config area. Ho02:09
OerHeksthen try the nomodeset option, see if it works02:09
Braden`Ok02:10
Braden`Thanks02:10
critenAnyone here have experiance with ubuntu and Shuttle computers?02:11
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Braden`This document tells me the options I need, but doesn't tell me which file to edit to add the options to...02:14
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James_EppMy append line for my pxe boot is as follows: APPEND netboot=nfs nfsroot=192.168.1.188:/srv/tftp/0/ubuntu/12.04/alternate/i386 initrd=0/ubuntu/12.04/alternate/i386/initrd.gz . But, when I am booting the client, I get to the point where it goes to fetch the ubuntu release stuffs from the USA mirror, and then the display goes blank with just its purple background and idles. Seems like a weird place to stop. Does anyone know why?02:17
MaelstromLulz02:20
Roy_Newbie_13-04i added the ppa for drawers, i made one but i want to delete it and make a different style, how do i delete a made drawer? ... completly02:23
coolstarI'm trying to setup Ubuntu 13.04 in Virtualbox and I get the error "The headers for the current running kernel were not found."02:28
coolstarWhat the package I should install via apt-get?02:29
Roy_Newbie_13-04just figured it out my self ... rm /home/roy/.local/share/applications/DVD\ Movies\ Related.desktop02:29
coolstaroh wait nvm. it was just warning02:30
coolstarit succeeded setting up :)02:30
NamedJohncould anyone enlighten me as to what is wrong with this bash snippet? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5672854/02:32
submanI'm going to ask a very strange question here but I need help from my fellow Ubuntu users.  I am trying to get an old Mac G3 working on the internet but can find little help.  anyone know of an active IRC channel that could help?02:36
imskycan i create a clean jail/chroot-like environment and then package it as a .deb?02:37
coolstarsubman: are you trying to boot ubuntu on that Mac G3?02:37
trollboyMy parents are stuck on the "Low resolution, your graphics card could not be detected, you will have to configure manually" screen... Apparently Ctrl + Alt + F1 is not working, nor is shift on boot.. suggestions?02:37
imskyrather, can i create a clean jail/chroot-like environment so that i can package it as a .deb? :)02:37
trollboyHitting Ok at the prompt dumps them to a black screen with a X shaped mouse cursor02:38
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submancoolstar, not at the moment, just trying to get some help02:38
coolstarsubman: if the Mac G3 is running ubuntu, this is the place to ask. If it's on OS X, try #mac02:39
submancoolstar, I understand that.  I was just asking for help in finding that resource.  All my other machines run Ubuntu.  Just asking some bros to help.,02:39
ilyekkakaihow do I launch CompizConfigurator from the terminal? I messed something up and now I have no dash and no window management functionality (no move/resize/etc.)02:39
ilyekkakaiWhat is the command to launch Compiz Configurator?02:40
submancoolstar, and of course #mac is not valid02:40
coolstar#mac-dev02:40
coolstarsubman: ##mac02:41
submancoolstar, no02:41
coolstarsubman: ##mac works here02:42
submancoolstar, yeah, me talking to me02:42
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ilyekkakaiHow do I launch the compizconfig settings manager from terminal?02:44
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wilee-nileeilyekkakai, try ccsm02:46
camilo_freenet on ubuntu 13.04 install help02:47
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ilyekkakaiI've lost my unity dash.. how do I re-install it?02:52
camilo_I need install freenet on ubuntu 13.04 helpme please02:52
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somsip_!gq | camilo_02:52
ubottucamilo_: Are you sure your question allows us to help you? Please read http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html to understand how to ask a 'better' question.02:52
dr_williswhats freenet anyway?02:57
dr_willis!find freenet02:58
ubottuFile freenet found in git-annex, l7-protocols, picon-domains02:58
clctoo/ o- o/02:58
clctoo/ o_ o/02:58
coolstarguys, loving Unity in Ubuntu 13.04 :)03:00
coolstar(I hated it back in 12.x and 11.x :P)03:00
clctocoolstar: use notion03:00
camilo_no problem... resuelto03:02
Roy_Newbie_13-04i need to run "sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M" every time the computer is rebooted once wireless is ready. What is the best file to add that too?03:04
dr_willisRoy_Newbie_13-04:  one way . put the command in /etc/rc.local03:04
dr_willisno need for the sudo in rc.local  just the command..03:05
jamesst20Hi03:05
dr_willisRoy_Newbie_13-04:  you may want  it to wait a few seconds, untill it does the command also..    'sleep 60'   then  'iwconfig ......'03:06
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jamesst20Hi03:07
jamesst20I have an Alienware m17x R4 and I have some issues with my sound03:07
jamesst20it is very low03:07
DJHenjinlogging in as a user then sudo su to root only counts as 1 user per session right?03:10
dr_willisyou might want to check the forums and askubuntu.com for that  exact brand/make jamesst2003:10
dr_willisDJHenjin:  i dont think so. and you shouldent use 'sudo su'   use 'sudo -i'03:10
DJHenjinsudo -i ?03:10
dr_willisDJHenjin:  run the 'who' command and see03:11
dr_willisyes.. do NOT use sudo su, or sudo bash, or other weird ways to get a 'root shell'   the proper way is   sudo -i03:11
DJHenjinapparently root is logged on through pts 2-903:11
dr_willis!sudo03:11
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo03:11
jamesst20dr_willis alright thanks03:11
sagatboa noite portugues03:12
sagat?03:12
dr_willis!pt03:12
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.03:12
DJHenjinis there a way i can kick off all the 'root' users03:12
dr_willisuse the kill command and kill their shells... perhaps...03:12
dr_willismakes me wonder why they are on there.03:12
DJHenjinyeah, me too03:12
dr_willisps ax | less    may show what they are doing..03:13
dr_williscould be root shells you have left hanging in the past.. since the last reboot03:13
Roy_Newbie_13-04if i put "sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M" inside "/etc/rc.local" wont it expect the user password and hang?03:14
dr_willisRoy_Newbie_13-04:  i said you dont need 'sudo' i n   rc.local03:15
dr_willisits allready running as root....03:15
Roy_Newbie_13-04\oh thanks03:15
dr_willisits like the 'last' service script that gets ran when the system boots up03:15
dr_willisyou MIGHt want to use that 'sleep 60' to make it wait a minet for the system to get all up to speed.03:16
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dr_willisaskubuntu.com may know a better way to  set that rate setting... im not sure why you are even needing to do that command03:17
DJHenjinroot      1604  0.0  0.0  14988   956 tty6     Ss+  May15   0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty603:18
dr_willisDJHenjin:  thats the LOGIN: command running on tty603:18
dr_willisone for each tty.. is normal03:18
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DJHenjinok, so is it waiting for someone to enter a password or something?03:18
NarcTix^^ it aint using any resources either03:18
dr_willisDJHenjin:  its waiting for someone to LOGIN...03:19
DJHenjinok also have this root      5011  0.0  0.0  20364  2340 pts/3    Ss   May15   0:00 /bin/bash03:20
dr_willisthatgs a root shell.. doing somthing03:20
dr_willispts/3 is a pusedo terminal.. like a xterm , or some background process03:20
NarcTix/bin/bash is probably relatesd to an ssh login03:20
dr_willisi dont even rember where i learned that at...03:21
dr_willis;)03:21
dr_willisstuff i havent had to mess with in years and years..03:21
skaWhat option do I fee apt-get upgrade so that my configurations don't change?03:21
skaapt-get -y or apt-get -n ?03:21
dr_willisska:  wht configurations are you refering to?  it shouldent change any customised configs without asking03:21
skadr_willis: I want to do it unattended03:22
NarcTixwhat happened to kill -9? :)03:23
dr_willisNarcTix:  it died. ;P)03:23
NarcTix9> 1503:23
benwahey there03:23
benwaI have a question for using raid (mdadm) in ubuntu03:24
benwaany expert on that around?03:24
dr_willisi try to not teach beginners about 'kill -9' ;)  they get overzelous03:24
NarcTixnot an expert but have experience03:24
benwabasically I have 3 hdd (1 500GB and 2 250GB)03:24
benwaI'll like to build a raid 1 with those03:24
benwawhat is the right way to do it?03:24
benwaso I did a raid-o with the 2 250GB03:25
dr_willis!raid03:25
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto03:25
deckardhello. What is the basic difference between Xubuntu and XFCE. they look so similar to noobs03:25
benwaand then a raid 1 with the 500GB and the raid-003:25
dr_williswonder if the bot is alive.. ;)03:25
NarcTixbenwa do you want one of the 250gb as a spare?03:25
dr_willisdeckard:  xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce03:25
benwait works fine until I restart then mdadm complains the array is degraded03:25
dr_willisdeckard:  so its xfce + a few ubuntu changes..03:26
DJHenjinbenwa, you are opening yourself up to a huge risk if either of the 250's dies, and then the 500 dies, or the other way around03:26
deckardwhy do i see, xfce, xubuntu and ubutu ?03:26
benwaNarcTix I want 500GB mirrored03:26
deckardis xfce use the least resources ?03:26
dr_willisdeckard:  see where? be more detailed.03:26
deckardas option to login03:26
benwawell I have 3 drives with 1Terao total03:26
deckardbrb03:26
dr_willisdeckard:  the lightest full featured desktop is 'lubuntu' which uses lxde03:26
benwaI just want a raid-1 of 500GB03:26
NarcTixbenwa so you want raid 003:26
dr_willisdeckard:  they could be identical..  or use differnt default settings..03:27
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dr_willisi dont use  xfce.03:27
benwaraid-1 is the duplcating and raid-0 is concatenate right?03:27
deckardbrb, sorry baby cry03:27
Morph4meraid 0 is performance ( striped) raid 1 is mirrored03:27
benwaso my thinking was concatenate the two 250GB03:27
benwato get a virtual 500GB03:27
benwaand mirror that with the other 500GB drive03:27
benwamakes sense?03:28
dr_willisdo you really need a raid that badly? ;) its amazeing the # of people i see in here with raid issues03:28
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benwawell I wanna use this for backup so yeah I'd like to think it's gonna be safe03:29
DJHenjinsoo, i killed all sshd proccesses using ps aux|grep sshd then re logged in my 2 sessions from here, and there are still 7 'root's in who03:29
benwamaybe I should go for a virtual partition03:29
kvothetechdr_willis: raid can be useful...raid 5 is really nice for servers for example...03:29
dr_willisdont forget a raid setup .. is not an excuse to  NOT make backups03:29
dr_willis;)03:29
benwacould I make the two 250GB drives look like a virtual 500GB?03:29
NarcTixbenwa I think you would have to put them into a LVM to make that array03:29
benwawithout using raid-0?03:29
kvothetechbenwa: lvm03:29
dr_williskvothetech:  i just seem to see people in here using raid for the wrong reasons way to often03:29
benwaNarcTix how does that work?03:29
Morph4mejust mirror he 2 250s and keep the 500gb for storage03:30
Morph4methe*03:30
benwawill I get double speed like with raid-0?03:30
kvothetechdr_willis: ah ...yeah there's some good reasons to use it a lot of reasons lvm or etc would be better03:30
NarcTixbenwa I work with LVM and it still scares me lol. Google :)03:30
Guest97234I have my old gconf configurations for global shortcuts. Any way to still use gconf-editor in 13.04 I have gnome-shell and session-fallback installed03:30
benwaMorph4me I need 500GB for backup 250 is too low03:30
estudiantehola03:30
Roy_Newbie_13-04why can i find "DVD Styler" under the dash?03:30
estudiantekdfghj03:30
DJHenjinuse the 500 GB for the backups then benwa03:30
benwaI wanted it mirrored otherwise it's not a safe backup03:31
benwaanyways I'll give a shot to lvm03:31
dr_willisRoy_Newbie_13-04:  was that a linux app you installed?   if you use the search featur eit should show up03:31
DJHenjinget another 500GB then,03:31
benwaDJHenjin03:32
benwaDJHenjin you buy me one? I'll give you my 2 250GB for free ;)03:32
dr_willisRoy_Newbie_13-04:  ot try launching it from a terminal.   use tab completion perhaps to get the name    'dvd<tab>'03:32
Blue1I need to set a timezone in mysql -- anyone help?03:32
DJHenjinbenwa: No.03:32
benwaDJHenjin you're not helping...03:33
dr_willis250gb  hard drives? i think i got a few in the bottom of the closet.03:34
benwaany knows what's the perf on lvm? is it like a regular drive or like raid-0?03:34
NarcTixbenwa you need to create an LVM of your disks then create the raid. TBH thats above support. So try google.com03:35
dr_willisi imagine its not going to be as fast as a raid setuo03:35
benwak thanks03:35
benwaI'll figure03:35
dr_willisthe raid url the bot mentioned may be worth reading03:36
deckardty dr_willis , one last question. Which is lighter, Xubuntu or XFCE?03:36
NarcTix^^03:37
serexubuntu is xfce03:37
Roy_Newbie_13-04helping a friend here this is his nick, mine is Prock03:38
Roy_Newbie_13-04he didnt even know of irc03:38
DJHenjinalso, I have to figure out why my ubuntu 12.04 amd64 server is crashing almost daily at random times. running last shows reboot   system boot  3.2.0-38-generic03:38
Roy_Newbie_13-04but he is wanting to dump windows for good03:38
stanley_robertsohi all03:38
Roy_Newbie_13-04one more thing i got to do is...03:38
NarcTixdjhenjin, check dmesg for hardware issues, check messages for system issues03:39
Roy_Newbie_13-04with windows i set up a shared folder so his wii can play movies over the network03:39
DJHenjinNarcTix: under /var/log there is no 'messages/ file03:40
sidhi03:40
Roy_Newbie_13-04the wii only can do smb, but in the software center i dont see anything smb related to what i think i need03:40
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NarcTixubuntu seem to have disabled messages in syslog these days!03:40
mwd5650Roy, check out samba for smb under linux03:41
Roy_Newbie_13-04can someone help me set up a smb share with ubuntu 13.04 ,ubuntu being the host03:41
deckardso my video games will get best performance with lubuntu?03:41
dr_williswii has some sort of  video player? not seen that.. or is this a hacked wii?03:41
dr_willisdeckard:  depends on the game. and how tight your system is on   resources03:41
Roy_Newbie_13-04its a hacked wii03:41
NarcTixwas it Debian or Ubuntu who decided to remove alot of the usual stuff from syslog?03:42
deckardits not tight i just dont care of desktop affects and i assume anything not orking on those affects will go to the game running better03:42
Guest78478hey03:42
deckardbut i am ignorant03:42
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dr_willisRoy_Newbie_13-04:  for samba, you can setup a samba share by rightclicking on the video directory and tellint it to make a guest share..03:42
dr_willisdeckard:  if you are using steam, theres a pakcage that makes a 'steam' desktop that you select at the login screen that just runs steam. to maxamize resources for your games03:43
deckardnot steam03:43
deckardbuy ty03:43
dr_willisyou coudl always just select  a very minimal window manager only for the most resources for your games . like openbox or jwm03:44
dr_willisbut thats geting a bit extreme03:44
NarcTixlightdm =103:44
NarcTix+103:44
NarcTixHandles most desktops too03:45
goddardhow can i disable ctrl+p on ubuntu?03:45
dr_willisif your system is so skimpy on resources that  lubuntu is  causing your game to slow down... well..  just using jwm  will only help a little  i imagine.03:45
DJHenjinNarcTix: syslog doesnt seem to have anything different immediately before it shows the 'kernel [ 0.000000 ] blah blah blah03:45
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NarcTixdjhenjin so no signs of harware issues (apart from heat or a faulty psu)03:47
Blue1anyone know how to set a default time zone in mysql?  this didn't work:  SET GLOBAL time_zone = 'America/Phoenix';03:47
DJHenjinand dmesg and dmesg.0 dont show anything either03:47
coolstaranyone know the place to discuss app development on Linux with GTK?03:47
DJHenjinalthough in syslog, there is literally nothing for 3 minutes before the kernel stuff.03:47
DJHenjinill be back in a half hour03:47
dr_willisBlue1:  perhaps ask in #mysql03:48
NarcTixdjhenjin if your log says that youve been pwned lol03:48
DJHenjinsays what NarcTix03:48
NarcTixill be back in a half hour :)03:48
DJHenjini have to drive somewhere,03:49
dr_willisisent there some 'more verbose logging';    for kernel logs in /etc/sysconfig  /03:49
DJHenjinit doesnt say that in my log...03:49
NarcTix^^03:49
utfans05friggen windows 7 cd wont boot, had to do a dd if=windows cd of=usb drive, that will work correct?03:51
nkhodyunyaHi, i have a program listed here http://paste2.org/wUIEVaMU After parent process die, I have a zombie process which should be cleaned out by init process. If I understand properly, SIGCHLD signal should been sent to parent before adopted by init. How init handle such zombie processes?03:51
utfans05friggen windows 7 cd wont boot, had to do a dd if=windows cd of=usb drive, that will work correct? I'm pretty sure it will just need someone to reassure me.03:53
NarcTixutfans05 that wont work03:53
utfans05NarcTix: why not? im making an exact image of the disk to a usb drive03:53
Blue1thanks dr_willis03:54
goddardhow can i disable ubuntus ctrl p?03:54
NarcTixutfans05 well none of your paths are correct and whats the cd in the middle?03:54
benwaNarcTix it looks like it worked thanks for the input03:56
benwaI'm off g'night all03:56
dave_NarcTix, diff pc, itd dd if=sc0 of=/dev/sd103:56
dave_but looks like the cd is wanting to work now03:56
NarcTixwas it your device paths dave?03:57
NarcTixcool benwa03:57
dr_willissc0  thats a cdrom device?03:58
NarcTixsr0 is03:58
dave_yes03:58
dr_willisseen a cd be called /dev/sr0    or /dev/cdrom    but not sc003:59
dr_willis;)03:59
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dave_thats what it was when i did a lsblk03:59
dr_willis   and  sd1  ras also a typo?03:59
dr_williswas also a typo?  since it should be like   sda sdb sdc or somthing03:59
dave_yeah, this is a mini, hard for me to type on03:59
dr_willistypos with  the dd command  - can be... deadly03:59
dave_normally im giving the advice not getting it03:59
Guest97234how do I make custom shortcuts in 13.04 under dconf04:00
NarcTixscript all those deadly typo commands04:00
dr_willisGuest97234:  i seem to recall askubuntu.com having some good info on that..   i looked it up like 2 months ago..04:00
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Guest97234dr_willis: thanks will check it out. I googled wih no luck04:01
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NarcTixsome sort of DdOs04:02
utfans05yeah its /dev/sr004:03
NarcTixor is that the master of command04:03
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dr_willisutfans05:  be sure you got all your dd options right befor you tell it to do it ;)04:04
utfans05so it should be dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/dev/sdd104:04
NarcTixtoast > /dev/null04:04
NarcTixutfans05 yeah thats tgood04:05
dr_willisNarcTix:  top list of commands.. ;)    dd, busybox, and ssh...      and busybox can replace dd and ssh i think, ;P04:05
Morph4meutfans05 you can check that with  > df-h < as well  as long the udf volume of win 7 is mounted04:05
dr_williserr.. you DONT want sdd104:05
dr_willisthat will image the cd to the first PARTITION on the usb.. not to the 'drive' of the usb04:05
NarcTixdr_willis Ive never used busy box04:05
dr_willisand youmay want to ask in #windows if this will even work with windows704:05
Morph4meas example sending mine to media would be like this using dd  >>>  sudo dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/media/morph4me/win7-64bit.iso04:06
dr_willisNarcTix:  more likely you never noticed you were using it. ;)04:06
dr_willisdont forget to use the 'bs=4M' option with dd. or else it may be very very slow04:06
utfans05dr_willis: so i need to send it to sdd04:06
Morph4metrue dr_willis good point04:07
dr_willisutfans05:  if you are 10000% sure your usb  flash drive is /dev/sdd04:07
utfans05dr_willis: yeah it is04:07
NarcTixdr_willis your probably right. Alot of new stuff doesent break and need hacking into these days.04:07
dr_willisand you may want to ask in #windows if you even can dd a win7 dvd to usb.. and it will work04:07
dr_willisNarcTix:  i belive  the normal initrd stuff uses it  for just a moment or 2 ;0 i havent looked into it in ages04:08
Roy_Newbie_13-04i know i got the ip and folder name correct, i cant seem to get the smb share working, can anyone help04:09
dr_willisi played with some busybox - mini linux disrto - years ago for  a fun weekend..04:09
dr_willisRoy_Newbie_13-04:   you did set it up as a guest share?04:09
NarcTixdr_willis Ive only ever experienced controlling initramfs until I started building Gentoo kernels but never came across busybox04:09
Roy_Newbie_13-04yes04:09
dr_willisRoy_Newbie_13-04:  or if ysing a samba user name.. you did give the user a samba password via 'sudp smbpassed -a username'  ?04:09
dr_willisoops  'sudo smbpasswd -a username'04:10
Roy_Newbie_13-04but also the wii makes it to where u have to use the user account, and i know that info is correct04:10
dr_willisRoy_Newbie_13-04:  so you aer connecting as 'guest' or some 'username'  ?04:10
Roy_Newbie_13-04that i did not do04:10
Roy_Newbie_13-04i want to use user name04:10
dr_willisthen you must set a samba password via ------------>    'sudo smbpasswd -a username'04:11
dr_willisyou can even setup the  special 'home' share in /etc/samba/smb.conf where each user can be shareing their own home directory automatically if you wanted to04:11
Roy_Newbie_13-04now does this have to the same pass as the user's pass?04:11
dr_willissamba password does NOT have to be the same as the users login password04:12
dr_willisi always make the 2 the same however. ;)04:12
dr_willisbut im on a home lan.04:12
NarcTixdr_willis bad habit if samba gets exploited sos that users account04:13
Roy_Newbie_13-04sudo: smbpassed: command not found04:13
dr_willisNarcTix:  yea.. my dog may haxor my system.04:13
dr_willisthen you must set a samba password via ------------>    'sudo smbpasswd -a username'04:13
dr_willistypos  ;)04:13
NarcTixdr_willis Im lookinf from a sys-ops perspective ;)04:14
dr_willisim all about 'casual home user' these days..04:14
dr_williswife, grandkids. and the dog..04:14
dr_willisthe 4 year knows more about accessing the net then the wife...04:14
Roy_Newbie_13-04password took, but wii still fail to sonnect04:15
dr_willisRoy_Newbie_13-04:  see if your nautilus file manager can connect to the share.04:15
dr_willis  smb://ip.of.the.server/sharename04:15
dr_willishit ctrl-l in nautilus to enter the address04:15
dr_willisctrl-L04:16
woohello04:16
NarcTixdr_willis your safe unless you have a wireless pace maker (imagine the DoS) and skynet has been in progress for years qbit processors are the key04:16
Roy_Newbie_13-04if i stop the share and restart will i have to sudo smbpasswd -a roy again?04:16
nevynRoy_Newbie_13-04: no.04:16
dr_willisRoy_Newbie_13-04:  that would make samba rather useless  if you had to...04:16
dr_willisbusiness with 10000 samba users... haveing to re-add their password every day.. ;)04:17
dr_willisthere is  some way to sync the login password and the samba password.. but its been years since ive done that04:17
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Roy_Newbie_13-04do i do "smb://192.168.2.13/Videos" in terminal Videos is located "/home/roy/Videos"04:18
dr_willisRoy_Newbie_13-04:  in your FILE MANAGER window...04:18
dr_willisctrl-L to show the  address entry field.04:18
dr_willisbash dsent know what to do with 'smb://'   nautilus does04:19
dr_willisat least you had the sanity to not use a space in the share name,. ;)04:19
Roy_Newbie_13-04i know no spaces to begin with04:20
dr_willisalso try the  address   'smb://127.0.0.1/Videos'     and see if any other pc on the lan can see the shares.04:20
NarcTixalways use -04:20
dr_willisits really really annoying when all the other pcs see a share.. then the one you want to see it... dosent04:20
dr_willisand i definatly have seen a share not work/appear... then a few min later.. it pops up. ;)04:20
Roy_Newbie_13-04natulas OR Files off the launcher04:21
woodr_willis: I am thinking to use a pie for server control for hundreds of ubuntu clients.  as a noob what advice could you help me out with using lanscape to manage?04:21
Chamunksanyone know a good tutorial on eggdrop here?04:21
dr_willisRoy_Newbie_13-04:  those are both the file manager.. that is 'nautilus'04:21
sarahShi everyone…04:21
Chamunksi dont even know if its decently simple to run in ubuntu.04:21
dr_williswoo controll on what way?04:21
sarahSI'm trying to make a directory writable by apache in a responsible manner04:21
dr_willisChamunks:  theres should be 100000's f web sites out there with Eggdrop guides.. i perfer to use 'znc' myself04:22
sarahSand when i do chown -R www-data ./tmp04:22
Roy_Newbie_13-04at teh bottom Browser Network then Windows Network , then oops something went wrong04:22
NarcTixsarahs you configuring Apache directly or using a panel?04:22
sarahSto a directory, it changes the owner…but apache still can't  write to it04:22
sarahSNarcTix: ssh04:22
Chamunksdr_willis, i need the bot functions more then the bouncer functions.04:22
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woodr_willis: I want to use a raspberry pi as ubuntu server and laptops as clients.  1.) does ubuntu server support pi 2.) what is the best place to find documentation and admin support for Lanscape?04:22
dr_willisChamunks:  i bet theres an #eggdrop channel also04:23
Chamunkswell i dont need it i want to learn about it.04:23
ChamunksI'll look around04:23
Chamunksthanks dr_willis04:23
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NarcTixsarahs so whats the owner and group on the directories and whats the apache procs running at modules or fast cgi?04:23
dr_williswoo ubuntu server runs 'services'  theres not really  thing to  'support pi'   since the pi ccan run linux..  and access the services  ubuntu dosent care  if it a pi or a android phone. ;)04:23
Roy_Newbie_13-04Browse Network ... Windows Network ... WORKGROUP oops something went wrong04:23
Joshuame13I just downloaded Linux for the first time!04:24
sarahSNarcTix: the owner is www-data which i believe is the user apache is running as04:24
dr_williswoo i have no idea on what landscape even is or does.04:24
sarahSas far as the second question…i haven't the foggiest idea04:24
Braden`I am using Ubuntu 13.04, and I started xwindows.  I see the desktop, and if I right-click, I get the appropriate context menus; however, I don't see any task bar along the top or side (I don't know what it is called in linux)04:24
NarcTixsarahs the owner needs to be the web user and the group needs to be www-data04:24
Roy_Newbie_13-04say my name if u helping me, chat scrooling fast04:24
woodr_willis: thank you.  dr_willis, from my understanding is that it controls updates from the cloud.04:24
dr_williswoo - hmm.  nevver used it. I just  do small home lans.04:25
Roy_Newbie_13-04Unable to access location04:25
somsip_sarahS: apache should be run by www-data, but can easily check with 'ps aux | grep apache' and look in the left most column04:25
sarahSNarcTix: ok…by web user, you mean the server? apache2?04:25
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dr_willisbb in a bit...04:25
Roy_Newbie_13-04 dr_willis ^04:25
somsip_sarahS: is the directory you are trying to change in the webroot, or somewehre else. Eg: /var/www/website/tmp, or /home/sarah/tmp ?04:26
NarcTixsrahs depends on what your apache processes are running as if there apache modules will be apache2 if you run them as fast cgi would be under there web user04:26
sarahSsomsip_: yes, it is a subdirectory of the webroot04:26
Braden`Anyone?04:27
sarahSactually04:27
somsip_sarahS: and the parent dirs allow www-data to have access?04:27
sarahSsomsip_:  /var/www/website/tmp would be accurate04:27
NarcTixsarahs fast cgi over apache modules any day easier to trouble shoot for one04:27
sarahSsomsip_: read access04:28
somsip_sarahS: maybe a dump of ls -la /var/www and /var/www/website would help/ Can you pastebin?04:29
NarcTixsarahs whats the problem again, Ive had a few spliffs :)?04:30
sarahShahah04:30
sarahSI'm trying to NOT chmod 777 a directory04:30
woosarahS: in tmp?04:31
somsip_sarahS: my usual approach would be to chgrp -R www-data {dir} and chmod 770 {dir} But this is not always ideal04:31
sarahScorrect04:31
somsip_sarahS: you told me not tmp (as in /tmp) but just a folder called tmp. Correct?04:31
sarahSsomsip_: thanks..will try that04:31
deckardhello. what is the command to install lubuntu?04:32
somsip_deckard: suo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop IIRC04:32
deckardis it sudo apt-get install lubuntu-dekstop?04:32
NarcTixsarahs then the easiest way is to run your users as fast-cgi rather than apache modules , that way the web-user is what the process(dir) owner then you dont have to set world permissions04:32
deckardty04:32
deckardi can install it with xubuntu and try it?04:32
somsip_deckard: I believe so04:32
deckardty04:32
deckardwhat is iirc mean?04:33
sarahSNarcTix: that sounds like something I will have to read up on.  apache modules I already know.  Thanks for the suggestion04:33
somsip_deckard: If I Recall Correctly04:33
deckardoh lol04:33
deckardty04:33
deckardi have it04:33
dr_willisyou can install most all the  *-desktop packages  that way deckard04:33
Braden`I am using Ubuntu 13.04, and I started xwindows.  I see the desktop, and if I right-click, I get the appropriate context menus; however, I don't see any task bar along the top or side (I don't know what it is called in linux)04:33
deckardty04:33
wooBraden`: are you new to gnome3?04:34
dr_willisBraden`: 3d video card drivers may not be working right04:34
Braden`dr_willis:  Is there a way to disable 3d?04:34
Braden`Because I really don't want all of the fancy stuff anyways04:34
dr_willisid suggest getting 3d working instead04:35
Braden`I actually used the 2d version before they stripped it out in 12.1104:35
Braden`Too much overhead04:35
Braden`This is for a development machine04:35
dr_willisthere is no unity2d in 13.0404:35
Braden`How do I use gnome then?04:35
sarahSsomsip_: http://pastie.org/791901804:35
dr_willisgnome shell? thats not unity04:35
wooBraden`: the top bar is what you use to save files or control the selected window04:36
Braden`dr_willis:  I know, how do I switch to Gnome?04:36
dr_willis!gnome-shell04:36
somsip_sarahS: RoR?04:36
Braden`woo:  Oh sorry, I didn't see your message04:36
sarahSsomsip_: correct04:36
Braden`woo:  Yes, I would like to use Gnome 304:36
dr_willisinstall gnome-shell and select it at login04:37
Braden`ok04:37
Braden`Thank you04:37
sarahSsomsip_: installing redmine04:37
wooBraden`: unity and gnome3 are a lot alike04:37
Braden`woo:  Yea, but they unfortunately cut support for 2d unity :(04:37
dr_willislubuntu is the lightest desktop04:37
NarcTixdesktops ahhhhh the next part of my Linux certification wants me to configure and troubleshoot x11 (Ive worked in tty or ptty)04:37
somsip_sarahS: sarahS there looks nothing wrong with this. Is there already a file in tmp that is not chown www-data that apache is unable to open for write?04:37
dr_willisBraden`:  unity3d uses llvm for low end systems.. but it can be buggy04:38
Braden`How do I enable that?  I could give it a try...04:38
dr_willisits enabled by default04:38
Braden`oh04:39
dr_willisif you want gnome shell.. then install gnome shell04:39
Braden`Well, I am using the nvidia drivers provided by the package manager.  How do I fix the current problem with the task bar not showing up?04:39
Braden`If I can fix that, and determine whether the system is responsive enough to use Unity, I will use that04:39
Braden`Otherwise, I will switch to gnome04:39
dr_willisrun nvidia-settings   be sure the drivers are working Braden`04:40
NarcTixI still am a big fan of xfce but kde is getting my vote at the moment (was a long time hater of kde)04:40
dr_willisunity  USES GNOME... you mean  gnome-shell04:40
Braden`Right, gnome shell04:41
Braden`Semantics04:41
Braden`ftw04:41
corehookre04:41
Braden`Oh04:42
Braden`Which driver should I use for virtualbox?04:42
Braden`(assuming ubuntu is the guest os)04:42
NarcTixbradeb whats the host?04:42
Braden`nvidia-settings says "ERROR:  The control display is undefined"04:43
nevynNarcTix: why does it matter.04:43
Braden`NarcTix:  Windows 804:43
nevynBraden`: that's cause a guest in virtualbox doesn't have a nvidia card04:43
Braden`nevyn:  I would assume because some OS's allow promiscuity to the adapters04:43
AlbertoMHi everybody i need some help  i have instlled some software like chromium skype and comodo antivirus for linux (I know i dont need but i want to protect the machines whith windows in my home and it dont consumes too much resourcees)  i allso instll teamviwer when i reestart the machine i see something of win e pop up and i dont want nothing related whith wine how can i comprobe i donth ave win e?04:43
NarcTix^^ why does it matter because he asked what driver duh!04:43
AlbertoMExcuse me my english are too bad04:43
nevynNarcTix: 14:46 < Braden`> Which driver should I use for virtualbox?04:43
Braden`nevyn:  That is what I just thought of, which is why I mentioned I am using virtualbox.  I probably need to use a different driver04:44
NarcTixbraden search on microsoft technet04:44
nevynhe's running a guest ubuntu in virtualbox the correct driver will be for the virtualbox framebuffer hardware.04:44
Braden`Let me check the package manager04:44
NarcTixthe drivers are still windows drivers04:44
dr_willis_virtuabox? you should have said that eralier. ;)04:45
Roy_Newbie_13-04i have system-config-samba now and that isnt helping, not even on my own machine04:45
dr_willis_you install the  vbox guest addations and you may want to double check the 'use  host 3d' option is enabled in teh options for vbox04:45
nevynBraden`: you need to install guest additions.04:45
nevynNarcTix: stop.04:45
NarcTixThe host needs to install the guest modules04:45
Braden`nevyn:  I already installed them.  I discovered I am missing the guest dkms package though04:46
dr_willis_for running in vbox. you may seriously want to use lubuntu instead of unity or gnome-shell04:46
Braden`NarcTix:  Already installed04:46
Braden`dr_willis:  What is the difference?04:46
Braden`If he can stay online long enough... :/04:46
dr_willis_lubuntu is the ligthtest full feature desktop04:46
Braden`dr_willis:  What do you mean "light"?04:47
Roy_Newbie_13-04dr_willis_ i have system-config-samba installed now, and still wont show inder Files / Browse Network04:47
dr_willis_uses the leaset resources04:47
dr_willis_Roy_Newbie_13-04:  some toimes you just have to fight with samba. i dont have any magic answers.. see if other pcs on the lan can see the shares perhaps?04:47
Braden`hmm04:47
Roy_Newbie_13-04cant04:47
AlbertoMHi can any body help me  i want to know if have traces of win e in my system04:48
Braden`Well, I appreciate the responses and time that everyone has given me.04:48
dr_willis_Roy_Newbie_13-04:  i tend to just enable the home shares. give samba passwords to my users. and restart.. and it works04:48
AlbertoMi expplain the case above04:48
NarcTixbraden what error means your missing dkms (needed for building some kernel mods)04:48
dr_willis_Roy_Newbie_13-04:  you may want to double check that all firewalls are off for testing04:48
Roy_Newbie_13-04how do i do that?04:48
dr_willis_!firewall04:49
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.04:49
dr_willis_windows has its own options for firewalls..04:49
Roy_Newbie_13-04do i have to be root for ufw04:49
dr_willis_i tend to share videos over DLNA/UpnP these days instead of samba. so i havent fought with samba in ages either.04:50
mongAlbertoM: "sudo apt-get purge wine" , followed by "rm -rf ~/.wine", ought to remove it as far as i know04:50
NarcTixWhere as alot of firewalls are built on Linux or Unix04:50
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dr_willis_AlbertoM:  there  might be a few windapp.desktop files in your .config dir you may need to remove by hand.. but those wont affect  anything04:50
Roy_Newbie_13-04firewall is off04:52
NarcTixAlbertM yeah find / -iname wine | xargs rm -rf /dev/null04:53
NarcTixmissed the > /dev/null04:53
corehookguys how i can send mail from console ?04:53
corehookubuntu 12.0404:53
histocorehook: with an smtp server setup or a relay04:53
corehooki am about command04:54
histocorehook: if you want to use pop or imap you can use mutt04:54
corehooki have smtpd server04:54
histocorehook: On the same box?04:54
NarcTixcorehook sendmail, not used in ages but man sendmail04:54
corehooksmtpd is other my server04:54
corehookin*04:54
corehookда в пизду04:55
NarcTixyouu can use sendmail as a mail client you dont need a local server04:55
RelaxationJust thought I'd ask, is anyone here a C programmer, or familiar with C?04:56
dr_willis_i find C pointers too pointy..04:57
dr_willis_;)04:57
nevynRelaxation: just ask.04:57
nevyn!ask04:58
NarcTixhow familiar Im familiar with programming and have done a socket client and server in c but not much else in c04:58
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:58
SparkySparkyBoom!patience04:58
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/04:58
RelaxationDr_Willis, you're always in here haha. And my question wasn't specific, other than what can I do to practice. I didn't make it past my Data Structures class in C so I'm very disappointed, trying to study C in my free time now.04:59
RelaxationI'm reading the K&R book over C atm04:59
kiyouraRelaxation: "Algorithms in C" by sedgewick05:04
RelaxationDoes it talk about data structures?05:04
kiyourayes05:04
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RelaxationThanks. I'll move onto that after I finish the K&R book.05:04
kiyourathat's what i did05:05
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RelaxationI find C to be very challenging.05:06
NarcTixpointers are the hard part of c but also its power inho05:06
NarcTix*imho05:07
kiyourapointers are not just exclusive to C. pointers are what separate people who 'like to code' from 'programmers'.05:07
gdi2kHi, I'm looking for help with DKMS (r8168 drivers) - is this the best place or is there a better channel, luke ubuntu server?05:07
Roy_Newbie_13-04will simba auto start, or how do i confirm the server is open\\05:07
NarcTixkiyora and its exploits and reverse engineering that seperates people who like to code from them who get paid05:08
kiyouraNarcTix, same thing as "programmers" ...05:09
kiyouraif you understand the memory map both of those things are fairly possible05:09
Roy_Newbie_13-04any simba experts here, or lots of experince05:10
Braden`How do I make it so that it displays what is loading on system startup instead of a splash screen?05:10
NarcTixIm currently under the influence of canabis and alcohol so cant go to in depth05:10
Roy_Newbie_13-04while im waiting to see if so, im doing a retart, ill be back05:10
NarcTixsee cant even spell cannabis right05:10
histoBraden`: disable splash and quiet from default options in /etc/default/grub05:11
corehookwhen i start some bash script from console its work05:12
NarcTixbraden do it in /etc/grub.d/40_custom05:12
corehookbut dont work when start with cron05:12
corehookwhich may be a popular error in the startup script?05:12
histocorehook: which users cron are you starting it with?05:13
NarcTixcorehook whats your shebang in your script?05:13
histoBraden`: then sudo update-grub after you remove them from there05:13
NarcTixby shebang i mean #!05:14
ajithHI how to share applciation installed using wine in ubuntu ltsp 12.0405:14
RelaxationTBH, pointers are fairly easy concept of C. In fact, rudimentary. I've exercised some quite complex data structure algorithms that are pretty hard to comprehend / follow. But understanding a simple pointer has never been a problem for me.05:14
Braden`Ok, thank you05:14
ajithI am unable to find these applciation in clients when i login05:14
RelaxationI understand C, up until we start looking at data structures, like constructing a graph / implementing it.05:15
NarcTixrelaxatin and kiyoura what educational upbringing have you had?05:15
histoajith: ~/.wine/drive_c/05:15
RelaxationThen things become hard for me to follow. I think it's because I don't understand the algorithm to begin with.05:15
corehookdev user05:16
kiyouraNarcTix 0 'formal' i am self-taught05:16
corehookshebang? what is ?05:16
NarcTixkiyoura :)05:16
RelaxationI'm studying computer science in college. The curriculum here follows C, and it is no joke at all.05:16
ajithok after going in to how do i share..I am unable to find the installed applciation in client05:16
histo!ot Relaxation05:17
histo!ot | Relaxation05:17
ubottuRelaxation: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!05:17
NarcTixcorehook by shebang whats the first line of your script #!05:17
dr_willis_hmm., well users install wine apps.. so they wouldent be 'system wide'05:17
ajithhow can i install them system wide???05:17
dr_willis_no idea.. not really ever tried to do that.05:18
NarcTixcorehook if like you said it runs in your terminal but not from cron what shell are you using?05:18
RelaxationActually, I made straight A's throughout my whole school career. Then I got to computer science in college. Most challenging thing I've experienced in the world of Academia. Failed my first class this last semester. Discouraging, putting all your time and resources into something, only to fail. It's odd. To me failing a class reflects not trying enough, not studying, etc.. But this was not the case at all for me.05:18
histoajith: perhaps #winehq can be of some assistance05:18
dr_willis_ajith:  you could make a script that calls wine /path/to/some/systgemdir/theappinstaller.exe  so each user can install it when they want to05:18
dr_willis_when wine runs a windows app. its makes a .wine dir for the user to keep the wine stuff in.05:19
dr_willis_you normally dont share that .wine directory system wide05:19
cyphaseis there anyone here with an htc one? are you having issues seeing all of the phone's internal storage when plugged in to your computer? did you, and you fixed it?05:19
ajithokay ..05:19
clctocyphase: do you have android sdk installed?05:20
histocyphase: are you using mtp or mass storage mode05:20
NarcTixno one shares there wine celar ~/.wine :)05:20
dr_willis_i recall a few apps in the past that used wine, that installed 'system wide' but i bet they were heavaly tweaked and took a bit of work to get going05:21
Senorwhere can I get source of login relevent stuff ?05:21
dr_willis_Senor:  be a bit more specific.05:21
corehookyep05:21
NarcTixdr_willis windows apps system wide serious fail05:21
dr_willis_NarcTix:  i seem to recall Picassa and  other apps doing that.05:22
dr_willis_they used their own secial wine.. as does that netflix-on-ubuntu package.05:22
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dr_willis_thats the latest tool that use the wine system wide trick that i can think of05:22
NarcTixyeah like a wine binary cant think of the name for it05:23
RelaxationDoes anyone know why Ubuntu only cares about the first 8 characters of your password?05:23
dr_willis_'cares' ?05:23
histoRelaxation: Can you elaborate on that?05:23
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dr_willis_you want to enforce longer required passwords?05:24
RelaxationNo05:24
histoRelaxation: then it cares about all the characters05:24
RelaxationLets say your password is X amount of characters. Ubuntu only needs the first 8 to log in05:24
Senordr_willis_ : I have one problem with init process , I have no root account set ,as I boot from non-distro kernel05:24
* dr_willis_ is going to have to go on again about how it pays to be verbose and detailed on irc... ;)05:24
NarcTixMy names NarcTix and Ive just realised im an alcoholic as Ive just reached to take a drink from my deoderant for the 5th time good night.05:25
RelaxationIf password X is > 8, you still only need the first 8 to log into Ubuntu. So, from my perspective, it only "cares" about the first 8 characters.05:25
dr_willis_or when you are setting the password - its only using the first 8 to begin with...05:26
Ben64Relaxation: i don't think that is true05:26
Aspire-Revo-UserCan anyone recommend a go partition cloning application like CloneZilla?05:26
lifeboyTrying to set up qemu-kvm on 12.04 64bit server, but get this error: -bash: sudo setcap cap_net_admin=ei /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64: No such file or directory05:26
lifeboyanyone that can shed some light on this pls?05:26
RelaxationBen64: try it for yourself.05:26
Ben64just did05:27
dr_willis_Aspire-Revo-User:  why not clonezilla? ;)05:27
RelaxationAnd?05:27
Ben64my password was already >8, and 8 doesn't work05:27
Aspire-Revo-Userdr_willis_: It is not working, freezing up and not doing what it suppose to do. Watched several YouTube video on how to use it and I am following the instructions as best i can.05:27
RelaxationYou did something wrong then... I know for a fact it only needs 8 characters to log in.05:27
lifeboyI have never used setcap...05:27
Ben64Relaxation: or more likely... you're wrong05:28
gdi2kRelaxation, using first 8 chars does not work - what makes you think this?05:28
RelaxationAre you sure you counted the characters properly?05:28
mongRelaxation: i have just tested this with my password as well, and cannot reproduce what you describe05:29
RelaxationWait hang on.05:29
RelaxationBrb, need to make sure I'm telling this correctly.05:29
dr_willis_sudo passwd billgates   moneybagXXXXXXXXX05:30
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dr_willis_login billgates05:30
nevynrenato_: that's complete garbage for a long time.05:30
dr_willis_too bad im not on a ubuntu box to test...05:30
Ben64he left05:31
nevynyeah I know.05:31
nevynrenato_: sorry wasn't for you.05:31
cyphaseclcto, i thought it might the sdk, but i only just now tried it on another computer :/, and i do see it all. how do i get around that? histro, there's no way to choose between mtp and mass storage on the phone.05:31
Ben64but i made a new user on my server with 20 character password - "12345678901234567890" and nothing less than the full 20 worked05:31
mongperhaps he's using DES encryption or something05:31
clctocyphase: can you logcat?05:31
nevynBen64: the old unix crypt hash was only good for about 8 chars05:32
Roy_Newbie_13-04under htop i see "smbd -F" three times, is that enough to have smb working, thats all the smb related processes i can see, or at least sound like05:32
RelaxationNVM, it's been changed. On older versions though, it only "cares" about the first 8 characters.05:32
nevynRelaxation: not since long before ubuntu existed.05:32
Ben64were you on warty warthog05:32
nevynthis wasn't true on debian potato.05:32
dr_willis_on Angry Amobea? :)05:33
nevyntho crypt was an option if you chose to disable md5 passwords (which you shouldn't do)05:33
Ben64i thought they were sha?05:33
nevynthey are now.05:33
RelaxationWell apparently it use to use DES encryption , which is what I was referring to.05:34
nevynBen64: so there was crypt (which was limited length) then md5 (which was reaonably broken) then sha.05:34
dr_willis_Roy_Newbie_13-04:  if you really want to dig deep into samba  - thers several books  on it in the repos under the 'samba-doc' package..  but they may be a little out of date. but they do have trouble shooting guides.. and theres askubuntu,com that may have some more up to date trobuleshooting guides05:34
mongmine uses a captain crunch decoder ring05:34
dr_willis_mong:  i use rot-13 ;)05:34
Roy_Newbie_13-04k05:35
deckardis it totally safe to run sudo apt-get autoremove?05:35
dr_willis_deckard:  it prints oiut what it will remove so you can say yes or no...05:35
nevynhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypt_%28C%2905:35
mongi do so from time to time, and have not broken anything05:35
deckardty05:35
deckardit wants to remove only "linux-image-generic05:36
deckard" safe/05:36
deckard?05:36
dr_willis_thats an old kernel sounds like05:36
deckardso just leave it?05:36
deckardsafe than sorry05:36
dr_willis_i doubt it will matter much05:36
deckardill lve then, ty05:36
dr_willis_!info linux-image-generic05:36
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.0.21.37 (raring), package size 2 kB, installed size 33 kB05:36
deckardmuch help from you ty05:36
dr_willis_just a meta-package looks like.05:37
dr_willis_removeing it wont really remove anything05:37
deckardis sudo apt-get upgrade safe?05:38
jmurrib21how can i make ubuntu 13.04 to boot faster. It takes 2 minutes to start up from an USB external HDD in a brand new pc hp p2-133405:38
histojmurrib21: well shouldn't take that long but i'd assume it's due to disk speed05:38
Ponch0I just had a crash something about IBus version being too old?05:39
Ponch0Also some messages about GPG keyring05:39
jmurrib21i used to run ubuntu 12.10 on a laptop and I liked it how fast it boot and tasks were done fast. with the same external usb hdd05:40
Ponch0DbDriver: permission denied "passwords"05:40
Ponch0wth is going on05:40
dr_willis_external usb   and 'fast' are really oppites...05:40
jmurrib21see05:40
dr_willis_13.04 boots in like 10-20 sec here on my ssd drive..05:40
nevynjmurrib21: don't run it from a usb disk.05:41
dr_willis_if the same HD is slower.. there might be some usb driver bug/issue going on..05:41
jmurrib21do you think the UEFI might have something to do with it?05:41
aeon-ltddr_willis_ from on button to usuable desktop?05:42
Roy_Newbie_13-04i cant browse the network but i can use file manager and put in ip and it works but not on the wii?05:45
jmurrib21what is /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 some times when I boot it says that device needs to be mounted or skip mounting?05:45
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GinTonicoolhi guys,when chrome playing videos ,the sound always quiver ,shiver ,what's wrong ?05:48
somsip_GinTonicool: in youtube?05:48
GinTonicoolanywhere05:49
somsip_GinTonicool: run it with google-chrome --audio-buffer-size=204805:49
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somsip_It's a known bug FITNR05:49
GinTonicoolsomsip, how do that in gnome desktop05:49
somsip_GinTonicool: What does that use? Menus or shortcuts?05:50
GinTonicooli do not know your meanings05:51
somsip_GinTonicool: I have never seen gnome desktop. How do you launch Chrome? Do you click on a shortcut on the desktop, or do you use a menu?05:52
dave_dr_willis_, yeah, the usb stick didnt work at all. i think im going to create an iso using windows since my dvd finally worked and then have it stored on a backup drive that i have05:52
GinTonicooli put a chrome icon on desktop and gnome panel ,i double click the icon05:53
histoGinTonicool: alt+F2 will bring up a run dialog or run his command in a terminal05:53
dave_dr_willis_, and the os's are on 2 completely seprate drives so i can manager which one boots by selecting the drive :D05:53
somsip_GinTonicool: then I guess you can right-click the icon and edit the command to include --audio-buffer-size=204805:54
GinTonicooli check it now ,05:54
aarcanehow can I get a list of all currently recommended packages, and which of the installed packages recommends them?05:55
kubanchellow! Is there any security scanner that is checking if sites were hacked (malicious code, exploit scanner, checking if there is any suspicious code) in ubuntu server05:56
somsip_kubanc: RIPS?05:57
somsip_kubanc: hmm - that's more for looking for holes actually...05:57
GinTonicoolhisto ,somsip, i add this at chrome property by right click icon ---property ---command like this :/usr/bin/google-chrome --audio-buffer-size=2048 ,but it does not work06:00
jmurrib21what is /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 some times when I boot it says that device needs to be mounted or skip mounting?06:01
somsip_GinTonicool: try just running it from terminal first to see if it does fix your problem. And make sure you are using the builtin flashplugin and not an installed flashplugin. I forgot about checking that first06:01
Roy_Newbie_13-04Prock82 text06:02
Roy_Newbie_13-04text06:02
kubancsomsip_: what about OWASP?06:03
somsip_kubanc: never heard of it.06:04
GinTonicoolmaybe it is the fuiltin flashplugin ,,,i installed adobe flash player 11.7,,,,06:04
swissi've touched owasp06:04
swisswhat about owasp06:04
swisskubanc: are you looking for hacked or hackable?06:04
swisshacked is only found through logs06:04
GinTonicoolhow to check which plugin chrome is using when playing videos06:04
dr_willis_GinTonicool:  right click on the video?06:05
somsip_GinTonicool: in Chrome, open chrome://plugins06:05
swisskubanc:i'm going to bed soon, but systems security is kinda my specialty, what are you looking for specifically?06:06
kubancswiss: i'm looking for a some sort of a scanner program, that looks at my sites (most of them are Joomla) and looks for malicoius code, if the site was hacked, etc... I don't understand what you are saying with hacked or hackable..06:06
somsip_GinTonicool: I have 11.7.700.169 disabled06:06
swisskubanc: hacked implies past tense06:06
GinTonicoolnot right click ,just play videos like youtube,,,,06:06
swisskubanc: are you trying to check if exploits exist or are you trying to check if someone has exploited you06:07
kubancswiss: I am trying to check if someone has exploited web site06:07
GinTonicoolsomsip ,i disabled the adobe flash player ,but now the video sites show that :no flash player installed06:08
swisskubanc: if it has already been compromised? I suggest dumping all your logs into something like splunk and sorting through them like that06:08
dr_willis_GinTonicool:  you ashed how to see which one it was using.. it can depend on the site. html5 or  flash.. right clicking on the video shoule bring up a menu to tell you wat its using for that video06:08
somsip_GinTonicool: Is the builtin plugin enabled?06:08
swisskubanc: for checking hackability, OWASP is generally good afaik06:08
GinTonicoolwhat's the full name of builtin plugin06:09
Prock82.06:10
somsip_GinTonicool: surprisingly, it looks like I've actually enabled the installed plugin at /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so06:10
somsip_GinTonicool: And disabled the builtin at /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so06:10
somsip_GinTonicool: this is the report for this bug https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=22404606:11
Roy_Newbie_13-04how can i get new emails to show under the Mail icon on the top menu06:11
dr_willis_ive never seen that icon show emails. ;) its more of an IM client notfication i thought.. unless thunderbird somehow works with it..06:12
GinTonicoolsomsip, disabled the builtin at /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so ?sure ?06:12
Roy_Newbie_13-04i saw a pic on line shiwint it06:12
Roy_Newbie_13-04also how to temove something from it06:13
aarcanehtop06:13
dr_willis_Roy_Newbie_13-04:  try the system-settings -> online accounts   and enable gmail accounts perhaps.. and then  you might need to run  thunderbird and tell it to show the info.06:13
kubancswiss: ok, for hackability, but i'm looking for software that will inform me that there's probably some strage code or files under under some path and i should check that..06:13
somsip_GinTonicool: it's not what I thought I'd done, but my 26.0.1410.63 version has working sound with builtin disabled, and installed enabled, using the --audio-buffer-size parameter. If I excluded that param, it is choppy. YMMV06:14
dr_willis_Roy_Newbie_13-04:  if you use gmail. i recall gmail-indicator applets available at some ppa's06:14
Roy_Newbie_13-04like if i open thunderbird once and never useed it, its allways there06:14
DJHenjinsomebody has been trying to hack into my server06:14
dr_willis_thunderbirs most likely has some service that runs in the background would be my guess06:14
dr_willis_im not on a ubuntu bos rright  now to check out thunderbird06:15
dr_willis_!info fail2ban06:15
ubottufail2ban (source: fail2ban): ban hosts that cause multiple authentication errors. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.7.1-1 (raring), package size 86 kB, installed size 434 kB06:15
DJHenjindr_willis_: any configuration needed or just install and leave alone?06:16
dr_willis_DJHenjin:  i tend to just install it and leave it. ;) then use logwatch about once a week to look at the logs06:16
dr_willis_but really i only used ot on my vps..  not like there was anything critical on it06:16
DJHenjincan logwatch be ran on a machine other than the server?06:16
GinTonicoolsomsip ,i'm using the same version of your06:16
dr_willis_logwatch parses the log files..06:17
dr_willis_and makes a nice report06:17
DJHenjinobviously06:17
u13сасай06:17
DJHenjinbut I can only connect by SSH into my server06:17
dr_willis_so it has to have access to the log files...06:17
dr_willis_ssh can access remote files.06:17
DJHenjinbut other than having access to the logs, if i have the logs on my local machine06:17
dr_willis_or you can ssh into the server and run logwatch06:17
dr_willis_i only use the most basic features of logwatch06:18
GinTonicoolsomsip, your builtin plugin is disabled ? how to do that , disabled /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so ?06:18
supersecondgood evening06:18
u13hi niggers06:19
somsip_GinTonicool: click on the link that says 'Disable'06:19
slimgeishahi06:19
Roy_Newbie_13-04something i just thought to do is search gmail in software center, whats the difference from the first two06:19
dr_willis_Roy_Newbie_13-04:  we dont know what 'the first two' are... we dont memorize stuff like that.06:20
Roy_Newbie_13-04take a look06:20
dr_willis_Roy_Newbie_13-04:  im not on a ubuntu box.06:20
Ben64theres also no guarantee that two people would have the same "first two"06:21
guntbert_!attitude | Roy_Newbie_13-0406:21
ubottuRoy_Newbie_13-04: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines06:21
AlbertoMhi can you help me  whith e mail client suggestion and how to configure a outlook.com account?06:22
dr_willis_theres always a dozen ways to do somting.. so there could be several differnt gmail indicator applets. or other tools for messing with gmail.06:22
Roy_Newbie_13-04notify the arrival of new mail on gmail V.S. intergrate gmail with your desktop ... i didnt mean to sound rude , i just thought gmail V.S. all that <--- would have been quicker06:23
AlbertoMhello06:23
dr_willis_if one is a webapp - that will put a icon in the left side panel for gmail.com06:23
dr_willis_indocator-applet - puts an icon at the top right06:23
GinTonicoolsomsip, i disabled adobe flash plugin 11.7, and disabled /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so; now it play videos show no flash player installed , then what to do or check,thank you06:24
somsip_GinTonicool: you need to have a plugin enabled.06:25
AlbertoMHello can yyou help me suggest me one e mail client and how to configure an @outlook.com account06:26
guntbert_!repeat | AlbertoM06:26
ubottuAlbertoM: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/06:26
Ben64AlbertoM: thunderbird, check outlook.com for instructions06:26
GinTonicoolall the plugins chrome is using are abled except adobe flash plugin , i do not know which exact plugin i need06:27
AlbertoMthanks06:27
somsip_GinTonicool: i've told you what my setup is, and told you YMMV. You can try it my way, or you can try it the proper way with builtin enabled and installed disabled. After that, you may need to research more06:27
Ben64GinTonicool: probably the pepper one you disabled, it comes with chrome and is the most updated version06:27
DJHenjinin /tmp what are the sess_ long string of numbers files?06:29
GinTonicoolBen64 , what it the pepper one , YMMV? i need this plugin ?06:30
somsip_GinTonicool: Your mileage May Vary - means it works for me but might not work for you.06:30
GinTonicoolmaybe06:31
Eremeshello guys how do I check my home folder is encrypted or not ? I can't remember wether xubuntu 12.0 gives encryption option on install06:31
GinTonicoolsomsip ,are you using adobe flash player ,or thers ?06:31
Ben64Eremes: df and/or mount06:32
somsip_GinTonicool: told you already06:32
EremesI can remember after installed xubuntu asked me to write down a passpharse for unlocking something06:32
GinTonicoolsomsip, but i can not find the plugin YMMV in Wev Store06:33
somsip_GinTonicool: I can't help you anymore. Sorry.06:33
guntbert_Eremes: that seems to have been after choosing to encrypt your homedir06:33
dr_willis_YMMV is not a plugin06:33
nitin__hello everyone.. what are the settings to enable ubuntu system to connect from other system by ssh... ??06:33
Roy_Newbie_13-04is there a gmail app or something that works with push, so i get notify with out having to fetch every 30 sec or what ever?06:33
GinTonicoolsomsip ,thank you still , a lot06:34
dr_willis_nitin__:  instgall the openssh server... and let them connect..06:34
EremesBen64: and what am I looking for ? df or mount command did not tell me about encryption ?06:34
dr_willis_Roy_Newbie_13-04:  there may be some gmail INDICATOR-APPLETS that do that in the repos..06:34
Ben64Eremes: then pastebin them06:34
nitin__dr_willis_,   i have installed it06:34
Eremesguntbert_: still dont know how to make sure my home folder is encrypt or not06:34
dr_willis_nitin__:  so test it 'ssh ip.of.the.server'06:35
nitin__on ssh message is permission denied06:35
dr_willis_nitin__:  how are you using ssh exactly?06:36
guntbert_nitin__: 1st test: *on* the server:   shh localhost06:36
nitin__ssh system_name@ip06:36
edenisthey06:36
dr_willis_systemname? err.. use yoru users name06:36
nitin__guntbert_,  how to on the server..??06:36
mongyeah, should be user@host06:36
jwdeaverHey, have a quick ubuntu install question for anyone that might have an answer.06:37
nitin__user and system name is same06:37
guntbert_nitin__: are you logged in on the server? Then just type    shh localhost06:37
jwdeavershh localhost06:37
bpietro:ask06:37
EremesBen64: http://pastebin.com/MNn9pcxv06:37
jwdeaverlol06:37
mongthat just tells the localhost to keep quiet06:38
edenistwould anyone happen to know if it is a way to let a binary ignore a library before launching it with a bash script?06:38
GinTonicoolwhen i run chrome ,it show 'could not load Shockwave Flash'06:38
guntbert_mong: please don't - this is a support channel06:39
Ben64Eremes: and df?06:39
edenistie: i've got a bash script which eventually runs a binary.... however when I have the i386 version of libtxc_dxtn_s2tc installed, it wont launch06:39
edenistonly way to launch it is to uninstall the package [which of course means other programs wont run]....06:40
DJHenjinstupid question, but i cannot apt-get remove nagios, says cirtual packages cant be removed, how the heck do i uninstall it then?06:40
edenistwas wondering if there was a way to either disable the library, or just tell the binary to ignore it?06:40
EremesBen64:http://pastebin.com/BMS22UmF06:40
EremesBen64: how can u tell is encrypted enabled or not ?06:41
moocow2024I am trying to install 12.04.2 to a RAID 0 drive that has only one partition for windows 7 utilizing half the available space, with the other half unpartitioned. When I attempt to install ubuntu, I cannot get the installer to detect my raid 0 drive. I have tried unplugging my other hdds, but haven't had any luck yet. Any ideas?06:41
kvothetechedenist: what program06:41
Ben64Eremes: doesn't appear its encrypted, but it still may be06:42
dopieanyone have an idea why this pops up06:42
dopiehttps://gist.github.com/anonymous/559733806:42
ajithdoes any one knows about ltsp ubuntu clusters06:42
kvothetechedenist: if it's a parameter for the program you could always use that ..or chroot your32 bit libraryies seperately from your pure 64 bit install...06:42
kvothetechajith: out of 1500 people here no nobody knows06:42
bpietroedenist: disable temporarily is easy: mv libtxc_dxtn_s2tc any_name_of_your_choice06:42
guntbert_DJHenjin: try to remove nagios306:43
EremesBen64: I remember correctly after installed xubuntu, the system gave me a passphrase, but can't remember what its for06:43
kvothetechEremes: your hard drive luks? boot loader?06:43
kvothetechEremes: your user?06:44
DJHenjinguntbert_: not installed so not removed, But i know for a fact i have some form of nagios installed,... could have been from source06:44
guntbert_DJHenjin: you will need to do    apt-get auto-remove  afterwards06:44
Eremeskvothetech: I just installed it, so dont really understand about luks or boot looader , Im root06:44
DJHenjinguntbert_: It says nagios3 is not installed so is not removed06:45
guntbert_DJHenjin: when installing from source you circumvent the packaging system, so you need to uninstall the program the same way06:45
Ben64Eremes: you shouldn't be logged in as root06:45
kvothetechEremes: i'd make a regular user to startwith then06:45
edenistok thanks guys, will give those suggestions a go06:45
EremesBen64: sorry I mean I am a regular user with root access06:45
kvothetechEremes: don't run x as root if you're in a tty use root all you want.06:45
Eremeskvothetech: thats I am now06:45
EremesI;ve already setup password everytime I login to xubuntu, but still not sure if its encrypted or not :(06:46
dopiehttps://gist.github.com/anonymous/559733806:46
dopieany help here06:46
Ben64Eremes: ls -A ~/ | grep -i encrypt06:47
dr_willis_Eremes:  boot a live cd and look in the /home directory on the hd and see what files are in the users directory06:47
dr_willis_Eremes:  is one way :) but i doubt if its the best way06:47
EremesBen64: nothing happen with that command no list06:48
Eremesdr_willis_: will try06:49
moocow2024I have an install RAID related question if anyone has a few moments06:53
cpandamy ext4 drive is full, and even after deleting over 100mb of files it just won't free up space, df always reports 0 blocks available. I already ran fsck -f on it which says everything is fine06:55
Ben64cpanda: you should not fsck a mounted filesystem, and 100MB is not very much at all06:55
DJHenjinin ubuntu 12.04 server, are the only crontab files in /etc/cron.d06:56
cpandait wasnt mounted, i heeded the warning. 100mb would be enough for me and is certainly >0 blocks free. df also reports less blocks used than available, but always 0 blocks free06:57
Ben64cpanda: is it not the partition ubuntu is on?06:58
cpandayes it is06:58
reetikareetika_1983 reetika706:58
Ben64cpanda: then how did you run fsck?06:58
cpandagparted06:58
cpandauh.. i mean partedmagic live cd06:58
Ben64ok, well you're still out of space then06:59
Ben64try bleachbit06:59
cpandai already deleted stuff, i just need the drive/ext4 to report it as usable. i don't think i could run bleachbit, as with 0 bytes free i cant log into x07:00
Ben64delete more stuff07:00
reetikareetika_linux07:01
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dr_willis_you can login to the console with 0 bytes free07:01
dr_willis_or should be able to at least07:01
cpandayes i'm here via console07:01
dr_willis_i have seen where log files go crazy and write faster then people can delete stuff. ;)07:02
dr_willis_if theres nothing critical on the system you could start by removeing all the old log files07:02
cpandayes i know, but the 0 blocks free didnt change after deleting stuff while not using the drive as a system drive07:03
dr_willis_that is weird07:03
Ben64could still be in the reserved blocks07:03
dr_willis_but 5% is reserved for root.. so its possivble its showing what the user can use..07:03
dr_willis_tune2fs can tweak  that reserved %07:03
DJHenjinfor fricks sakes, ive been trying to uninstall cacti, but i cannot find the cron that its poller is set to run in07:03
Eremesdr_willis_: Im on live CD now, I can browse and see the filename, but I can't open a folder, permission denied, does it mean my folder is encrypted ?07:04
cpandawould df as root show it as free?07:04
Ben64Eremes: you can see the files in your home directory?07:04
dr_willis_Eremes:  what files are on the home/yourusername directory ?07:04
EremesBen64: yes I can see all my files there07:04
dr_willis_then you are not encrypted..07:04
EremesBen64: I can see my file config.rar07:05
Ben64the doctor is right07:05
Eremesdr_willis_: ok07:05
dr_willis_you see Desktop, and Docs, and Videos and so forth as well?07:05
Eremesdr_willis_: yes07:05
dr_willis_then you are not encrypted..07:05
dr_willis_if you were.. you would only see like 3 files07:05
cpandadr_willis_ thanks, setting it to 1% shows free blocks again :) and df as root didnt show it before07:05
Eremeshmm xubuntu does not give any option to encrypt while install it07:06
dr_willis_cpanda:  id start with cleaning out logs and  the var/cache/apt stuff ;)07:06
dr_willis_Eremes:  i see way to many issues in here with encrypted homes..07:06
Eremesdr_willis_: maybe thats why xubuntu does not offer home encryption as installation option07:07
dr_willis_i dont use xubuntu. so no idea how its installer differs.. i thought i saw the option on the Lubuntu installer07:08
qweadswhich one of cfdisk, fdisk and parted should i use to partition a harddisk?07:08
qweadswhat are the differences07:08
dr_willis_qweads:  parted or cfdisk.. fdisk is getting obsolete07:08
dr_willis_qweads:  or gparted for a nice gui07:08
Dewishouldn't really be any different07:08
Dewiyou can always install with ubuntu and then switch07:09
dr_willis_fdisk has issues with the bigger/gpt/stuff i recall..07:09
cpandayes, removing apt cache gave me 5%, thanks again :)07:09
Ben64you should really have more free space than that07:09
Eremesok gtg , thanks guys for helping me especially Ben64 & dr_willis_07:09
Ben64everything gets fragmented with low free space07:09
qweadsDewi: what are you talking about?07:10
Dewiqweads: being surprised the xubuntu installer would have any differences for storage07:10
cpandaben64 sure, if i could downsize the ntfs partition more, but that wasnt possible. the /-drive is a little over 2gb07:10
aqillahai07:12
qweadsDewi: i think you are mistaking me for someone else07:13
Dewiqweads: I didn't say anything to you until you asked...07:13
qweadsDewi: perhaps you guys should stop making it look like im working with you all the time .. planting "evidence"07:14
* Dewi laughs.07:15
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DJHenjinso apparently there is NO crontab for ANY user at all on my server, yet there are still scheduled tasks running like cacti's poller, and zabbix's poller as well, how the hell is that possible07:16
nevynDJHenjin: /etc/cron.daily07:16
DewiDJHenjin: the system crontabs07:16
DewiDJHenjin: also, continuously running services?07:16
DJHenjinnevyn: /etc/cron.daily doesnt have the cronjobs i am looking for,07:17
DewiDJHenjin: ps -A | grep -i zabbix07:18
DJHenjinand Dewi, the software I am looking to remove uses cron for its scheduling apparently, but i cant find any cronjobs at all07:18
Dewihmm ok07:18
DJHenjinDewi, i dont want to remove zabbix,07:18
DJHenjini want to remove cacti, and nagios07:18
DewiDJHenjin: yeah I'm just describing one way to spot a possible continuously running daemon process07:19
DewiDJHenjin: I don't actually know the ins and outs of zabbix or cacti07:19
DJHenjinDewi, did that for both nagios and cacti and nothing there.07:19
DJHenjini DONT want to remove zabbix. i want to remove Nagios and Cacti,07:19
DJHenjini have gotten most of Cacti's files, but i keep getting emails saying that one of cacti's files is missing blah blah blah.07:20
asdfasdfgaye07:22
GinTonicoolsomsip,,, guys ,maybe i know why chrome sound quivers when it play on line videos07:31
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l057c0d3ryeah.. i use chromium myself.. never had an issue with sound.. but this sounds interesting...07:32
GinTonicool/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so ,in chrome//:plugins ,in adobe flash player ,i disabled this shockwave plugin, now the sound works rightly07:32
l057c0d3rhmm  interesting..07:33
SparkySparkyBooml057c0d3r: why chromium?07:35
SparkySparkyBoomwhy not the chrome release?07:35
ghythI bought Del Inspiron 15Z - I installed ubuntu but facing issues evertime i updated the system, and the battery led is up even if the batter is full07:35
ghythwhich may batter life might affected07:36
sharpshooterSparkySparkyBoom:  open-source !!07:36
l057c0d3ragree sharpshooter07:36
SparkySparkyBoomit has libs that are proprietary though07:36
ghythand when i reboot it stuck in boot stage07:36
SparkySparkyBoompretty much defeats the purpose of OSS07:36
l057c0d3rbut better yet..  why not07:36
SparkySparkyBoomchrome is easier to download and install07:37
SparkySparkyBoomit has stable updates07:37
rigohi07:37
l057c0d3rghyth, ??  what was that...07:37
l057c0d3rSparkySparkyBoom, hmm sudo apt-get install chromium-browser07:37
ghythubuntu 12.0407:37
l057c0d3rit updates from time to time.. has always worked....07:37
rigoi know that i'm talking about a mounted ftp site, but is there any chance for me to set up the mounted ftp site to my proftpd as default root?07:37
l057c0d3rnever thought about switching to chorm....07:37
SparkySparkyBoomit's in the ubuntu repos?07:38
SparkySparkyBoomoh07:38
SparkySparkyBoomyea07:38
sharpshooterSparkySparkyBoom:  sure !07:38
l057c0d3rghyth, has it worked before.. or does it hang at boot after fresh install07:39
sharpshooterSparkySparkyBoom:  if you want flash player take a look at this http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/install-pepper-flash-player-for.html07:39
Akiva-MobileHey I was installing ubuntu alongside windows 7, and while I was waiting, I decided to watch a youtube. The youtube crashed, my screen is locked, and I don't know what to do. Any ideas?07:39
rigoanyone? something? :)07:40
SparkySparkyBoommeh07:40
ghythl057c0d3r, yes, even when i reinstalll it one time it works another time it didn't07:40
Akiva-Mobilethe only thing I can do it seems is goto alt+ctrl f1 etc07:40
SparkySparkyBoomchrome is better07:40
l057c0d3rAkiva-Mobile, so alt f7 just takes u to a blank screen i take it07:41
Akiva-Mobilel057c0d3r: Yes,07:41
l057c0d3ru were using firefox correct07:42
Akiva-MobileYes07:42
l057c0d3ru could try loging in to tty1 and doing a sudo killall firefox07:42
dr_willis_hmm.. live cd dosent have flash.. guess it was a html5 video?07:42
Akiva-Mobileokay I'll try07:42
l057c0d3rand trying to go back to f707:42
l057c0d3rnot sure if that will help though07:42
l057c0d3rdr_willis_, i didnt think about that actually07:42
ghythl057c0d3r, the funy thing now it's working - after I restart the computer it will stop07:43
ghythrestart it one more time - it will work07:43
Akiva-Mobiledr_willis_: I installed it07:43
l057c0d3rghyth, that is strange.. im looking it up atm07:43
dr_willis_oh the humanity! ;)07:43
l057c0d3rdr_willis_, if he restarts the unity desktop from tty1.. will the install process still be running....07:43
dr_willis_Akiva-Mobile:  well if you are lucky killing firefox - might get the desktop back07:44
l057c0d3rand more importantly visible07:44
Akiva-Mobiledr_willis_: not lucky07:44
Akiva-Mobiledr_willis_: still blank07:44
Roy_Newbie_13-04im having ubuntu 13.04 host a smb share.. the iphone with app connects to it, Files from the launcher works, but the wii wont! any advice, and the wii is online07:44
dr_willis_Roy_Newbie_13-04:  so basically everything else on the lan sees the share except the  wii?07:45
Roy_Newbie_13-04yes07:45
Akiva-Mobilekilling firefox didnt work07:45
l057c0d3rghyth, are u booting in uefi mode or standard mode from the bios07:46
l057c0d3ru said windows 7 so i would say no uefi07:46
Ben64uh.... the wii doesn't connect to samba07:46
Akiva-Mobilemy main concern is whether the disk partitioner is still working. I don't wan't to interupt my installation and lose 2 terrabytes of data07:46
Roy_Newbie_13-04ill try a restart brb07:46
dr_willis_Roy_Newbie_13-04:  you could check the samba logs and /var/log/auth* log files and see  if the samba server gives a reason to refuse the connection. or if its even seeing the connections at all.07:46
l057c0d3rAkiva-Mobile, well i guess u could use top from tty1 and see how active the install process is...07:47
Akiva-Mobileah07:47
l057c0d3rif it goes dead....  most likely it is done...07:47
Akiva-MobileI fixed it07:47
Akiva-Mobilesudo killall plugin-container07:47
Akiva-Mobilethanks guys07:47
dr_willis_'flash' the pc killer! ;)07:47
l057c0d3rlol oh yeah firefox uses plugin-container..  didnt think about that07:47
Akiva-Mobiledr_willis_: is gnash good ?07:47
l057c0d3rdoes chromium?07:48
dr_willis_Akiva-Mobile:  never used  it.07:48
l057c0d3rAkiva-Mobile, finance app07:48
l057c0d3rhmm i think kmymoney is nice07:48
dr_willis_if i want a flash video. o tend to use flash-download apps..07:48
dr_willis_i think he means the open sourced flash thang07:48
l057c0d3roh07:48
l057c0d3rmaybe i am just lucky.. but adobe flash has always done me good...07:49
Akiva-Mobileheh07:49
dr_willis_i rarely have flash issues.. but i have older pcs.07:49
l057c0d3rbut as dr_willis_ i do use fetchers most the time and watch in vlc..07:49
dr_willis_other then the smurf-people issue.. a few months back.. ;)07:49
Akiva-Mobileit is a live cd so :P07:50
dr_willis_there was a extension for firefox that made flash play in vlc in the browser..  but its been discontinued07:50
Akiva-Mobileinteresting07:50
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Akiva-Mobilelol it crashed again :P07:50
dr_willis_any other use for flash -- then just playing vidoes... i imagine should be outlawed. ;)  silly idiotic sites with 5+ flash animation banner ads...07:51
dr_willis_then they ALL start playing sound at the same time...07:51
ghythl057c0d3r, UEFI07:51
l057c0d3rdr_willis_, ad block pro  :-)07:51
Phryqhey, my sound doesn't work, either from speakers or headphone jack. (The jack physically broke earlier, so I think it's unrelated07:51
l057c0d3roh and flashblock plugin07:51
dr_willis_bbl07:52
Phryqanyone able to help?07:52
njillingsPhryq> give us a bit more than 'it won't work' Whats your version, whats your card and what have you already tried07:52
l057c0d3rPhryq, in term type alsamixer....07:52
l057c0d3rgo through and make sure everything is turned up and not muted07:53
l057c0d3rmay have to use f6 to switch between cards if you have an hdmi port ext07:53
ghythl057c0d3r, did you see a case such as mine !?07:53
l057c0d3ryeah....  but they were all trying to boot in uefi mode07:53
ghythl057c0d3r, me too it's uefi mode07:54
Phryqthanks guys. AlsaMixer v1.0.25, Card: HDA Intel PCH, Chip: Intel PantherPoint HDMI07:55
ghythl057c0d3r, but can't find why it happened07:55
Kartagis!pin07:55
ubottupinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto07:55
l057c0d3ris uefi mode needed..  maybe disable it in bios..07:56
l057c0d3ri dont believe windows 7 needs it like 807:56
njillingsPhryq> have you checked in Alsa mixer the routing? On one of the tabs there should be a dropdown explaining your card config. If you select Digital Out it should go to HDMI, any of the Analogue outs should then use your normal soundcard speakers / headphones07:56
l057c0d3rmaybe check to make sure legacy mode is enabled in the bios/csm07:57
vichow do i check python version installed/07:57
ghythl057c0d3r, I enabled it and then disabled it and try in both ways but it's the same07:57
ghyth:(07:57
DJHenjinhave you tried [ython --help07:57
PhryqMaster dB gain was actually on mute (I'd never seen this ALSA mixer before). I've unmuted it, but still no sound. Should I restart my computer? Sorry I'm very nube.07:57
l057c0d3rvic python --version07:57
njillingspython --version07:57
njillingsPhryq> have you followed my last? Make sure the ALSA is sending audio to the right place07:58
Phryqok guys, I'm really dumb. It was actually just a mute thing. Thanks so much07:58
victhanks.07:58
PhryqI didn't know this mixer existed, so I don't know how I muted it this was. It was the PCM being muted.07:59
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l057c0d3rPhryq, glad to help :-p07:59
vici have a file unlocker.py how do i execute it?07:59
njillingsphryq> no probs07:59
PhryqCan I use the ALSA mixer to do effects like compression on any audio outputed from my computer? that would be really cool07:59
l057c0d3ri don't believe so08:00
l057c0d3rghyth  goes your windows 7 boot with ueif tunred off and legacy on...08:01
njillingsPhryq> not really, better to use JACK as that supports routing and DSP. Not sure you want to do that anyway though, will not sound good on 90% of stuff08:01
l057c0d3rif so..  maybe try turing legacy on and ueif off.. and reinstalling ubuntu08:01
njillings!jack08:01
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PhryqI'm thinking how I watch a lot of Noam Chomsky lectures and the audio is so terrible, even though what he says is so brilliant08:02
ghythl057c0d3r, no windows anymore, I'm a linux guy - do I need to reinstall it !!!!08:02
viccan somebody help me execute a python script08:02
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PhryqI know what I'm doing with audio (in windows at least) it's just linux I don't know.08:02
ghythl057c0d3r, and the external speakers is not working too08:02
l057c0d3rwell as long as there is nothing u need to back up... i would try a reinstall with ueif off an legacy on...08:03
njillingsPhryq> Play them in VLC, it has built in audio DSP functions I think08:03
l057c0d3rand for the speaker it may be a mute issue like the other persons issue08:03
Phryqah, I'll try that08:03
l057c0d3ralsamixer in term might help08:03
njillingsPhryq> you go to Tools, Effects, Audio Effects and it has a compressor, GEQ and a load of video effects08:04
A1ReconCan the archive manager open rar files?08:04
l057c0d3ryes vlc is amazing08:04
l057c0d3rA1Recon, i believe so..  u may need to install unrar though....08:04
Oasacan anyone help me in finding free vpn with ubuntu like hotspotshield or hideman08:05
l057c0d3rsudo apt-get install unrar08:05
Phryqis there any way to add plugins to it? like VSTs?08:05
njillingsPhryq> not VSTs, you can write C/C++ code for it. Read the VLC website. I haven't done any but it is possible08:05
rigoi did the mapping with the curlftpfs to /mnt/ftp if i set up in proftpd as default root the /mnt the ftp directory is not visible.08:05
rigolog sais: chroot to '/mnt/ftp/' failed for user 'xbmc': Operation not permitted08:06
njillingsPhryq> here's on good site: http://code.google.com/p/vlc-shares/wiki/HowToNewPlugin08:06
A1Reconl057c0d3r: it says "This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources." for "rar unrar"08:06
Phryqthanks08:07
A1ReconIs there some other way to open rar files in ubuntu?08:07
Oasafree vpn in ubuntu?08:07
Ben64Oasa: openvpn08:08
l057c0d3rA1Recon, what said that08:08
njillingsOasa> openVPN08:08
Oasai mean free vpn server like hotspotshiield08:08
bazhang!ot | Oasa08:08
ubottuOasa: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!08:08
A1Reconl057c0d3r: The Archive Manager08:08
l057c0d3rdid u install unrar?08:08
bazhangOasa, that has Nothing to do with Ubuntu support08:08
A1Reconl057c0d3r: Is there some other way to open rar files in ubuntu?08:08
njillingsOasa> OpenVPN can be configured as a client or Server08:09
KartagisA1Recon: install rar package08:10
Kartagis!info rar08:10
ubotturar (source: rar): Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2:4.2.0-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 611 kB, installed size 1273 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)08:10
Hounddoggood morning folks... having a slight problem with the installation... keyboard/mouse are not working... infact i think my usb ports are not working at all08:10
rigois there any chance for me to recevie an answer from someone? :)08:10
Akiva-Mobilemmmmm, I just installed ubuntu alongside windows, but the grub is not coming up. It's just a windows repair screen08:10
AlbertoMHey  i try  i search and i can not configre a email account on tunderbird is  @outlook.com08:10
Kartagis!grub | Akiva-Mobile08:10
ubottuAkiva-Mobile: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub208:10
A1ReconKartagis: command for installing rar and unrar? "sudo apt-get install rar"?08:11
njillingsrigo> not sure, but are you sure your user has permissions to do mounting? generally only roots08:11
Akiva-MobileKartagis: I am dealing with UEFI08:11
KartagisA1Recon: yes08:11
Akiva-Mobileand that doesnt answer my question. Grub does not appear. I can't boot ubuntu08:11
HounddogAkiva-Mobile: you isntalling next to windows 8?08:11
Kartagis!uefi08:11
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI08:11
rigoi used the command with xbmc user and sudo, after that i gave write permissions to all08:11
Akiva-MobileHounddog: windows 708:11
Hounddogahh i am just installing beside 808:11
njillingsrigo: sorry, not something I know much about08:12
l057c0d3rhmm ok so unrar is the non free version08:12
l057c0d3rbut heh thats what i was saying to do08:12
KartagisAkiva-Mobile: then follow !grub. it should help you08:12
Kartagis!grub | Akiva-Mobile08:12
ubottuAkiva-Mobile: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub208:12
rigobut its not an unpossible thing right? so i would like to mount an ftp site to my local system, and give the path as the root of the local proftpd server. (the site is a porn site which i have to develope. and the proxy here where i work does not allows such connections :D)08:13
Hounddogas i am installing next to windows 8 once i get ubuntu running in try mode i can safely install it right?08:14
Ben64rigo: sounds like a bad idea08:14
njillingsrigo> theoretically it should do, I mount SFTP using the inbuilt SFTP but generally it is only stable when I am inside the network. Better to just download and put a local web server on your machine to develop it, and then push the updates08:15
vichow do i execute a python script (unlocker.py)08:15
njillingsvic> in terminal -- python unlocker.py08:16
olegbvic: or chmod +x unlocker.py08:16
njillingsvic: assuming you have cd'd to the right directory already08:16
rigoits another unusable filesystem right?08:16
vicnjilings: how do i have the cd'd to the right directory08:17
olegbvic: that would make the script executable08:17
Hounddogso... here is a challenge... how to check why usb is not working without keyboard and mouse....08:18
njillingsvic: in terminal, it defaults to your local directory. If your directory is stored in your documents folder, you can either do 'python Documents/unlocker.py' or you can cd Documents and then you can just run 'python unlocker.py'08:18
njillings!cd08:18
vicnjillings:chmod: cannot access ‘unlocker.py’: No such file or directory08:19
njillingsvic> where is your file stored?08:19
vicnjillings: downloads08:20
rigowhat would be your opinion?08:20
njillingsvic> ok, then in terminal type in cd Downloads. Type in ls and you should see the file listed. Re-run your chmod command (or just run python unlocker.py)08:21
Ben64vic: you should be careful running downloaded scripts08:21
l057c0d3rBen64, the good thing about scripts.. if you know the language u can look at it and see what it does08:21
njillingsBen64> true, but I'm assuming that vic knows where the script came from and what it does08:21
rigonevermind i have access to my homeserver via vnc it's just simply faster to develope from the local pc08:22
Ben64njillings: but doesn't know how to run a python script? :S08:22
vicBen64: the code came from freecode.com08:22
njillingsBen64> Like I said, I'm not assuming anything. I provide advice on solving a problem, not giving people life lessons in computing08:23
victhanks | njillings08:23
olegbHounddog: you could try and ssh to the box - assuming that you have a sshd running08:23
Ben64i don't just let people jump off cliffs08:24
njillingsrigo: by mounting your FTP on your local directrory, you aren't developing locally, you are simply providing a short-cut to the server. By developing locally and uploading to the server, that would be local development08:24
rigoyou misunderstand em08:24
rigome08:24
manish__hello does anybody know how to create custom ui for ubuntu tpuch?08:24
manish__touch08:24
bazhang!touch | manish__08:25
ubottumanish__: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch08:25
bazhangmanish__, /join #ubuntu-touch08:25
njillingsBen64> I don't either, but I'm not standing by the cliff, just saying I don't know the whole story and I dont have time to. Nor does this channel08:25
rigoi mean to run the netbeans on the local computer and connect to the site through my home server. got the point? :)08:25
manish__i have alerady joined there08:25
bazhangmanish__, so be patient08:25
autrahello08:25
autramy system is not booting since the new kernel update...08:25
autracan someone help me to diagnose it ? (I have access to the logs, as I have a bootable usb stick)08:26
njillingsautra: what is the problem, no GUI?08:26
njillingsautra: or it just freezes08:26
manish__bazhang....i am not dev i am just a business man planning to start mobile company with ubuntu on it ..so please can anybody guide me how to start08:26
njillings!touch | manish08:27
ubottumanish: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch08:27
bazhangmanish__, yes. be patient with the questions you ask in #ubuntu-touch .08:27
manish__ok bazhang i am patient...08:27
manish__bazhang i have couple of questions can you answer me?08:28
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bazhangmanish__, about ubuntu touch?08:28
manish__yes bazhang about ubuntu tpuch08:28
manish__touch08:29
autranjillings, it does not boot entirely08:29
autrano tty, no login screen08:29
bazhangmanish__, as I have said. Please Be Patient. #ubuntu-touch will hopefully answer you.08:29
Ben64autra: can you get to grub? (hint - repeatedly smash left shift during boot)08:29
autraI'm looking at dmesg and var/boot.log but...08:29
vichow do i identify active usb ports08:29
autraBen64, yes,08:29
njillingsautra: on GRUB loader, you should have an option to go into advanced options (I think) and there it should give a list of kernels, select the last that worked08:29
manish__ok bazhang thanks a lot..08:29
Ben64autra: try an older kernel08:30
autraso I tested the previeous kernel already njillings08:30
autraand it worked08:30
autraso I know the problem is with the last kernel08:30
autraI had problem shutting down on the previous kernel though08:30
autrabut at least it is booting08:31
autraI wanted to diagnose that08:31
njillingsnjillings: hmm, not sure I can identify the problem for you. Maybe someone else here can, otherwise have you researched  on the Ubuntu Forum and for any known bugs on Launchpad?08:31
autranjillings, I will, thanks08:32
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xlairehello, i have question, in TOP command, theres my username and root08:40
xlairewhat difference and how to login as a root08:40
Ben64!root | xlaire08:41
ubottuxlaire: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo08:41
bazhangxlaire, dont login a s root. there is simply no need08:42
xlaireok so i can't kill process under root?08:42
ActionParsnipxlaire: some processes run as root08:42
ActionParsnipxlaire: sure, you can use sudo kill nickserv PID08:42
ActionParsnipoops08:42
ActionParsnipsudo kill PID08:42
xlairei will try to kill one process08:43
rajumohto become root use $sudo su root08:43
Ben64don't do that ^08:43
ActionParsniprajumoh: sudo -i    is a little better08:43
bazhangrajumoh, thats not correct08:43
rajumohbazhang: with all due respect it works08:43
Ben64not correctly it doesn't08:43
youknowmeso many guys08:44
Ben64its actually less typing to do it the right way, so why not?08:44
bazhangrajumoh, sudo -i is the correct command. yours does not. Please NEVER recommend that here, thanks.08:44
xlaireok please don't argue, then what is zombie means?08:44
ActionParsniprajumoh: yes it may work but the environment (which you don't immediately see) isn't right08:45
ActionParsniprajumoh: sudo for GUI apps 'works' too, but is also not right08:45
Ben64can break your login like that08:45
ActionParsnipxlaire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process08:46
xlairety for link08:46
rajumohbazhang,ActionParsnip: yeah just noticed that the environment seems to be different. can one of point to any links where this is documented08:46
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ActionParsniprajumoh: in the man page is a good start :). It may be documented online08:47
ActionParsniprajumoh: or do you mean gui apps with sudo and not gksudo?08:47
rajumohActionParsnip: with gui apps i use kdesudo or gksudo that was not the problem. with  terminal i have been using sudo su root for so long havent actually ever met a situation where there was problems08:49
ActionParsniprajumoh: good, gk/kdesudo is important :D08:50
cpandai tend to use sudo bash, is that wrong too?08:50
Ben64yeah08:50
Ben64dunno why you guys need a root shell so often, but the correct way is sudo -i08:51
xlairei'm intrigue with the link given to me, i saw a code c++, is there a msdn for ubuntu and if write a code, does it required editor / compiler to run my code?08:51
rajumohActionParsnip: frankly i typed in the command to become root, for fun sake , it always seems to get this room abuzz. but sudo -i was a bit new to me :-p08:51
Ben64xlaire: is there a microsoft dev network for ubuntu? ha. no.08:52
xlairekinda like i mean08:52
ActionParsnipxlaire: its just an example08:53
xlaireplease give an example08:53
dr_willissplash:  please dont do an ON JOIN spam of your silly spammy site...09:00
Roy_Newbie_13-04how do i undo the ppa cryptfolder-indicator and purge it09:01
dr_willis!ppa-purge09:01
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html09:01
dr_willisyou can apt-get remove packagename   if you know the packagename  Roy_Newbie_13-0409:02
Roy_Newbie_13-04what was the ppa so i can get rid of that09:03
dr_willisyou added the ppa.. so i have no idea09:03
Roy_Newbie_13-04purge the ppa, it totaly sucks, locks up, comand line is so much easyer09:03
Roy_Newbie_13-04someone here game the ppa connamd to me09:03
dr_willislook at your hiatory buffer, if you ysed the cli to add it.. or look in /etc/sources.list.d09:05
Kartagishow do I upgrade an installed package through PPA?09:05
dr_willishistory command shows your cli history09:05
dr_willisenable the ppa - sudo apt-get update. sudo apt-get upgrade.. and it shouldl upgrade it09:06
arpitHi I am getting the following error while linking09:07
arpithh09:07
arpithidden symbol `fstat' in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc_nonshared.a09:08
arpitis refrenced by DSO09:08
arpitcan someone please explain09:08
Gune(Writing this here since I couldnt write in #linux) Hey guys, question about rsync. I have 2-3 server which has websites on them and I would like to back these up on a regular basis to a windows machine, and for this I would like to use rsync to make the backups incremental. Would the rsync command i need to execute have to be executed on the windows machine or can I initiate the rsync process on the linux machine directly?09:09
Roy_Newbie_13-04how could i grep ppa in hte history09:09
Ben64Roy_Newbie_13-04: cat ~/.bash_history | grep ppa09:09
rudivsI've seen some online tutorials suggesting that installing itunes from playonlinux is the way to go (assuming you need itunes). I don't see it as an option in 12.10 - am I doing something wrong, or has it been removed?09:09
dr_willisits possible the #linux channel  may require you to be 'identified' to the services Gune  and have a regiestered nick.09:09
Roy_Newbie_13-04thanks09:10
Jonathan_Hello, Should I use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS or 13.0409:10
Jonathan_Any suggestions09:10
Jonathan_What are the main differences09:10
Jonathan_?09:10
dr_willishistory | grep pattern          Roy_Newbie_13-04  can also work09:10
dr_willis13.04 has newer updated packages.. and a bit more polish09:10
dr_willisand some neat new features.. (just a few)09:10
Ben64Jonathan_: 12.04 is lts, which means its supported until 2017. 13.04 is not, and requires an update to 13.10 by January 201409:11
dr_willisif LTS is imporntant to you.. use LTS09:11
bazhanghttp://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/2012-10/msg00149.html    arpit09:11
dr_willisif newer stuff is imporntant.. use the latest release09:11
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sonofzeusHey there09:15
sonofzeusDoes anyone here use gnumeric?09:15
kvothetechsonofzeus: nope09:15
A1Reconhow to update GPU drivers? I am not running the proprietary drivers.09:15
kvothetechdr_willis: hi sorry left earlier id you get the raid/lvm issue you had sorted09:15
kvothetechA1Recon: apt-get update apt-get upgrade09:16
dr_williskvothetech:  wasent me. ;) was some other guy09:16
kvothetechdr_willis: sorry been drinking don't do that much...thought it was you sorry09:16
chestyhey, I installed linux-image-generic-lts-raring to work around a kvm bug but the nvidia card is a little unhappy, there's no xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-lts-raring package. does anyone know how to look up why a package is missing?09:16
dr_willisA1Recon:  if you install the .run drivers package.. then thats what you have to keep on doing..09:16
dr_willisA1Recon:  if you are using drivers from the repos.. apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade pulls in any updates09:17
kvothetechchesty: hc, there's a package for nvidia but you have to compile it again since you changed kernels it has to rebuild the modules09:17
kvothetechchesty: unless you built them in which i don't think nvidia lets you09:18
chestykvothetech: ok, but why is there a xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-lts-quantal but not a xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-lts-raring?09:18
kvothetechxserver-xorg-video-nouveau doesn't work ?09:19
dr_willisraring is not a  'lts' release perhaps?  or is that what lts means in that nam09:19
dr_willischesty:  you are using a raring kernel  in quantal?09:19
kvothetechchesty: because theres no reason to have seperate packages for nouveau that i can think of...09:19
chestydr_willis: no, i'm on 12,04 lts with the raring lts kernel09:19
A1Recondr_willis: Does Chromium update on its own??09:20
dr_willischesty:  you may want to look into the updated kernel ppa's and perhaps the xswat ppa. for  12.04 instead of trying to force in a raring package09:20
kvothetechdr_willis: chesty why do you need seperate novouie packages...it's all the same all it does is add the modules to your kernel.09:20
dr_willisA1Recon:  againn.. if you insgtall stuff from the  repos.. then they should update automatically09:21
kvothetechA1Recon: yes if you grabbed it from apt to begin with if not you can redl the source and recompile a new one at leisure09:21
dr_willissudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade    (or perhaps   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade) and you should be all updated09:21
kvothetechdr_willis: i think you dropped as i answered something / asked one sec09:23
kvothetechdr_willis: chesty why do you need seperate novouie packages...it's all the same all it does is add the modules to your kernel.09:23
dr_willissilly andchat client on android likes to craash on nick completion..09:23
chestydr_willis: i'm not forcing raring package, the *-lts-raring packages are in 12.04 lts repo09:24
dr_willisso it always crashes right in the middle of a concersation. ;)09:24
dr_willischesty:  so its from the backports repo?09:24
chestydr_willis: i09:24
chestydr_willis: i'm not sure. it's a standard 12.04 lts, and some quantal and raring packages are available09:24
A1Reconkvothetech: I installed it from the Ubuntu Software Center09:25
dr_willisthat seems weird.. but i alwayas stick to the latest release. ;)09:25
kvothetechchesty: kvm doesn't work in lts release of ubuntu..that sounds like a pretty serious error09:25
kvothetechor is that just me09:25
dr_willisA1Recon:  and the software center is a front end to the apt packageing system09:25
penos_how to run ubuntu in debian?09:25
kvothetechA1Recon: which uses apt/dpkg.09:25
dr_willispenos_:  run it in virtulbox09:26
dr_willisvirtualbox09:26
penoshi09:26
penosvirtual box is good09:26
kvothetechpenos: kvm is pretty much already built in09:27
chestykvothetech: it's a bug with this particular hardware, it works fine for 99% of people09:27
A1Recondr_willis: So they should update on their own?09:27
kvothetechchesty: ah ok09:27
kvothetechA1Recon: yes...that's what we already said...09:27
dr_willisA1Recon:  for the 4th time... YES09:27
Rufushi09:27
kvothetechRufus: hi09:28
dr_willisA1Recon:  thats like a MAJOR point of using a packageing manager system like APT09:28
kvothetechhmm he ddidn't even ask a questien09:28
MortimerCatPlease can somewhere explain updates, ie I am sticking with 12.04 LTS, does this mean my PHP version is stuck at 5.3.10?09:29
MortimerCatI mean if I just stick to the default repositories, obviously I could upgrade PHP by itself.09:29
kvothetechMortimerCat: if it's the one in the repo then for now yes09:29
dr_willisMortimerCat:  unless theres some big reason.. ubuntu normally only updates versions of packages  with the next release.09:29
dr_willis!latest | MortimerCat09:29
ubottuMortimerCat: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.09:29
A1Recondr_willis: kvothetech: Sorry still a novice on Ubuntu.... I am trying to learn....sometimes its just downright confusing... Thanks for your help....09:30
kvothetechA1Recon: what's confusing..09:30
penoshow to run ms dos in linux?09:30
penos*in ubuntu09:30
kvothetechpenos: again kvm/vbox09:30
kvothetechRufus: wb09:30
dr_willisA1Recon:  works basically like  how steam, or your android market does ...  the market app  handles all the updates as needed...09:30
llutz!info dosbox | penos09:30
ubottupenos: dosbox (source: dosbox): x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.74-3 (raring), package size 822 kB, installed size 2505 kB09:30
Rufusthanks09:30
kvothetechpenos: or that09:31
A1Reconkvothetech: So many softwares for ubuntu, (and I have been a Win7 user since Kindergarten) and all the ways to install them. Its confusing but I am learning...09:32
dr_willisfreedos in vbox ;)09:32
voxadamDoes anyone know of a command line program to rename MP3 files using the ID3 data that they are tagged with?09:32
kvothetechdr_willis: what's vbox have kvm doesnt if you don't mind me asking09:32
dr_williscompared to all the confuseing things you have to do in windows.. :)09:32
dr_williskvothetech:  its kooler. :)  then again.. its all i really use..09:32
dr_willisso that makes it cooler.09:32
kvothetechvoxadam: mediainfo shows all that info you could use that mv and grep ...09:32
kvothetechdr_willis: lol i'm just asking cause far as i can tell it's more or less built in whereas vbox isnt09:33
llutzvoxadam: http://superuser.com/questions/555401/linux-command-line-tool-to-batch-rename-mp3-files-based-on-id3-tag-info-or-give09:33
dr_willisvoxadam:  there are several mp3 renamer tools in the repos..09:33
voxadamkvothetech: Thanks. I'll take a look at that. I'm sure it'll take me some time as I'm not a shell guru but it'll be a learning experience.09:33
dr_williskvothetech:  ive never really messed with kvm. but i tend to run vbox  in windows - to run linux...09:33
voxadamdr_willis: Thanks.09:33
kvothetechdr_willis: oh..you run windows not inux :(09:34
dr_willisor use vbox to test out live iso files09:34
Fazer2hey, can I download library sources from package manager? (i.e. synaptic)09:34
dr_williskvothetech:  depds on which desk im at. ;)09:34
Fazer2or from terminal09:34
kvothetechFazer2: huh you can dl source only not install it09:34
dr_willisFazer2:  sudo apt-get build-dep packagename    or         theres some download source option i recall09:35
dr_willisFazer2:  depending on exactly what you want to do09:35
dr_willis!source09:35
ubottuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html09:35
llutzapt-get source foo09:35
voxadamdr_willis: Thanks. I don't know why I didn't just search. It looks like id3ren does what I need.09:35
Fazer2kvothetech: I want to look at Botan sources (not header files)09:35
kvothetechFazer2: then dl the source git svn or the above..09:36
kvothetechvoxadam: it's ok a lot of people here haven't read he basic 'how to ask questions the smart way' doc...09:37
Fazer2llutz: thanks09:37
dr_willisthat build-dep option to apt - can save a lot of time if you are trying to recompile somthing. ;)09:39
dr_willisassuming it has an older version in the repos09:39
kvothetechdr_willis: but that assumes apt knows what compile options you want...09:40
kvothetechor are using09:40
schnitzel-quick queestion. why is the latest 13.04 64bit image named sth with AMD?09:40
schnitzel-i have an intel but 64 bit?!09:40
schnitzel-or i am just stupid?09:40
kvothetechschnitzel-: because amd made the first 64 bit and you might be we dont know..09:40
schnitzel-hehe i might. yes.09:41
schnitzel-sometimes i am. very.09:41
kvothetechschnitzel-: it's always been amd64 orx86_64  ...09:41
llutzschnitzel-: amd64 is fine if you don't have an itanium09:41
schnitzel-well. not the proud owner of a 64 bit system for long..so i wont know.09:41
schnitzel-but the name is not good anyways. just cause they did it first?!09:41
schnitzel-i downloaded the image. raged cause it "was the wrong". deleted it...09:42
schnitzel-well. now i am donlwoading it again lol09:42
dr_willisits been called that for.. like  5+ years? ;)09:42
kvothetechschnitzel-: intels version is entirely compatible.....i think amd allows bulldozer and intel allows hyperthreading...09:42
kvothetechdr_willis: more like 10 now..2002/309:42
dr_willisintel licensed the 64bit extensions from AMD i belive is what the wiki pedia stuff says09:42
dr_williskvothetech:  NOW i feel old!   get off my lawn!09:42
schnitzel-kk. so you would recommend to install the amd image for 64 if you have a 64 bit machine? and not the standard 32bit image?09:43
llutzschnitzel-: yes09:43
kvothetechdr_willis: lol i'm an ancient 23 and i know that..09:43
schnitzel-thank you.09:43
schnitzel-:D09:43
dr_willisi use 64bit os on all 64bit hardware09:43
schnitzel-perfect. well. the name still sucks :P and thank you again ;)09:43
kvothetechschnitzel-: yes..use 64 if you have 64 bit unless you have a good reason not to and if you have to ask you dont have one09:43
dr_willisname makes perfect sense09:43
schnitzel-maybe to you. to me it suggest its build specialy for amd hardware.09:44
schnitzel-so i searched for a "intel 64bit version"....09:44
dr_willisthere is no need for any special amd builds in anything that ive seen.. in decades09:44
schnitzel-so why the name? :p09:44
schnitzel-well. nvm ;)09:45
kvothetechschnitzel-: it's always been amd64 or x86_6409:45
dr_willisschnitzel-:  because amd  came out with the 64bit extensions.. and its what intel licensed09:45
schnitzel-okokok09:45
dr_willisi dont have time to find thee wikipedia entry ;)09:45
kvothetechdr_willis: they actually do have there own version..just other than the itanium and a few others nothing really uses it09:46
schnitzel-haha no need to09:46
schnitzel-i believe you09:46
kvothetechi don't believe me09:49
augustinhello everybody, first time trying xubuntu here09:50
malltaquit09:51
kvothetechaugustin: it's the first time..all right yeah yeah..yeah .09:51
rurufufusscan anyone tell me the possible reasons ./binary does not work and I get "no such file or directory" ?09:51
rurufufussI did export PATH=`pwd` and it still doesn't work :/09:51
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dr_willisuse he right name.. make it executable.. and verify its valid executable. ;)'09:52
dr_willisbbl09:52
nicekiwithere’s a steam window on my screen, but I cant findout what is in it. its just black and I cant right click it or select it in alt + tab09:53
llutzrurufufuss: "file ./binary" and "uname -m" say what09:53
nicekiwihow can I get info about it?09:53
kvothetechrurufufuss: if you're in a 64 bit system it's a 32 bit binary (vise versa) is it chmod +x in acl/standard permissions09:55
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rurufufussI got elf 32 bit, and x86_6409:55
llutzrurufufuss: you'll need 32bit support, multiarch09:56
rurufufussllutz: can I enable 32 bit support without uninstalling?09:56
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kvothetechnicekiwi: xprop09:56
Arsene_y'a qqn?09:56
kvothetechrurufufuss: add the 32 bit libs (multilib) or make a chroot09:57
llutzrurufufuss: what does "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures"  say?09:57
kvothetechnicekiwi: should tell you anything and everything about it09:57
nicekiwikvmadsen, hmm.. :P gives me some info. Not really sure what im seeing though ha ha09:58
rurufufussllutz: it says i38609:58
rurufufusssorry a bit slot, doing this over the phone with someone on skype :/09:59
rurufufussslow* rather09:59
llutzrurufufuss: so the binary you want to run was not installed using apt? get the missing libs manually  "ldd ./binary" tell you what you need09:59
kvothetechrurufufuss: why compile stuff for 386 if you have a 64 bit system you can use 686 compilation at least if you want the 32 bit version09:59
rurufufusswe're trying to run a legacy 32 bit binaryu10:00
rurufufussllutz: is a binary for another massively legacytastic program10:00
llutzrurufufuss: but not installed from repos?10:00
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kvothetechllutz: probably not....or he'd have the libs for it..revdep-rebuild would find link deps...10:02
llutzrurufufuss: so you have to clear the dependencies on your own, have fun.10:02
rurufufussokay thanks10:03
mah454Hello , I have Laptop Vostro 3350 with Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series . I installed amd-catalyst-13.4-linux-x86.x86_64.run but after install X server do not start ! this is Xorg.log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5673592/10:03
mah454How can fix this problem ?10:03
[FreeBSD]mah454: you shouldnt really install stuff by hand10:04
punxosHi10:04
mogmog_hi does anyone know why the second song and the rest in playlist in parole has no sound even though they're played?10:04
mah454[FreeBSD]: why ?10:04
[FreeBSD]mah454: "fgl.renamed.libglx"10:04
[FreeBSD]dno what that is10:04
[FreeBSD]mah454: because it wont be managed10:05
mah454[FreeBSD]: How can fix it ?10:05
mah454Or How can install ATI driver on ubuntu 13.04 ?10:06
[FreeBSD]if that script has an uninstall, do that first10:06
mah454[FreeBSD]: and .... ?10:06
[FreeBSD]try to find a proper one in the repo10:07
[FreeBSD]it might blacklist stuff / set things up for you10:07
[FreeBSD]do you need this for games or anything like that? because the open source ati driver is meant to be good10:08
punxosI am using a 64 bits version with the debug "libc6-dbg" pacakge. I compile the same application to 32 bits (-m32) but I can't debug because I can't find the 32 bit debug version of glibc. Anyone know where I can found it ?10:08
mah454[FreeBSD]: apt-get install fglrx , it's true ?10:12
[FreeBSD]yes that sounds right10:12
[FreeBSD]then reboot10:12
Fazer2is there an app for displaying crypto certificates? on windows, it is built-in like this http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/windows_update_certificate.png10:14
mah454I will come back ...10:15
mah454Bye.10:15
lotuspsychjesounds folder on chat2 doesnt exist, does it need another download for sounds?10:15
JesperHansenany channel to discuss https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-1305-chromium-default-browser?10:18
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mah454aticonfig --initial -f -----> "aticonfig: No supported adapters detected"10:19
DJonesJesperHansen: Either #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss is probably best for that sort of discussion10:20
JesperHansenDJones: salute10:21
kvothetechJesperHansen: what about it10:22
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phyphorANyone have any experience setting up 13.04 as a PXEInstallServer?10:28
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phyphor(if so, any advice they can offer would be gratefully received)10:28
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seremy dog just took a poop right next to me on my bed.... /killall 9- dog10:33
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xorox90I'm experiencing very very interesting situation, when I nmap to my sambar server with directly connected wan, 455 port filtered, but when I namp with with connected lan (with router) suddenly 455 port open, Is there default firewall setting in ubuntu..? (Iptables -L show nothing...)10:44
jribxorox90: there are no firewall rules by default (as you saw in the iptables output)10:44
xorox90then why... 455 port filtered without router 455 port open with router it is very very strange....10:45
jribxorox90: probably some setting on your router10:45
phyphorxorox90: is the router doing PAT?10:45
xorox90PAT?10:45
phyphorport address translation10:46
phyphorso you hit the router on port 455 but it translated it to a different port or destination10:46
ubuntu13245hez10:46
ubuntu13245hey10:46
ubuntu13245quick question. the 1305 verion is the firts with uefi support?10:47
ubuntu132451304 i mean10:47
ActionParsnipubuntu13245: seems to be in Quantal too10:47
phyphorxorox90: if port 455 isn't open on the server, but it appears to be when you go through the router the likely explanation is that the router isn't passing the traffic as expected to the same server - it might be pushing it to a different host, or to a different port10:47
Hounddoghmmm having the problem now that i cannot install cause i have no network...10:48
phyphorxorox90: it's not the only explanation, but I'd check the router10:48
ActionParsnipHounddog: its optional, unless you are using minimal10:48
xorox90jrib: phyphor: yeah you are right, another server(my IDC server) nmap show result 455 filtered10:48
xrfanghi there,  when I run smbmount it told me command not found (13.04). I have two questions: 1) which package is this command in? 2) why ubuntu do not prompt me which package to install (my office pc runs 13.04 do the command not found package hint). thanks!10:48
HounddogActionParsnip: i dont understand10:48
ubuntu13245ActionParsnip,  which version is quantal again_10:48
xorox90then maybe my routher do somethings..10:49
ubuntu13245i am not sued to the animal names10:49
Hounddogam using the live cd and there while trying the os i have no internet connection10:49
ubuntu13245its the LTS, right_10:49
Hounddogyes, am using lts10:49
Hounddog12.04.210:50
Hounddogusb ports also switch off after a few seconds10:50
Hounddogor at least my mouse does10:50
phyphorSo, err, anyone have experience setting up a newly set up 13.04 server to be a PXE Install Server?10:51
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phyphorThere are various guides but they are outdated (referring to old packages) and I'd rather follow known good directions than muddle through10:52
abdelkarimhi10:55
phyphorI'm going to assume the deafening silence means I'm on my own :(10:56
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asdfasdfghey11:00
asdfasdfgi've got a lenovo w510 with nvidia quadro graphics and am not able to get brightness control to work11:00
asdfasdfgits ubuntu 13.04 amd64 and i've tried the enable-brightness-control thingy inside /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ without success - X11 wont start in normal mode after inserting that line11:01
asdfasdfggrub parameters did not help either11:01
asdfasdfgbrightness is always on maximum setting11:02
asdfasdfgdoes anyone have an idea on that?11:02
sereasdfasdfg: i have had that before and if I remember correctly i had to manually change the config for nvidia-settings11:03
asdfasdfgsere do you remember any more details?11:03
Hounddoghmmm the terminal also seems to be starting but closing right after11:04
Hounddogcannot get to the console11:04
ActionParsnipHounddog: can you open xterm?11:05
HounddogActionParsnip: just tried, nope11:06
HounddogActionParsnip: not installed ubuntu yet though... wanted to test some things before11:07
ActionParsnipHounddog: have you editted ~/.bashrc recently?11:07
Hounddognothing just started the livecd11:07
ActionParsnipHounddog: try updating the gnome-terminal package using software centre11:07
HounddogActionParsnip: let me check that one11:07
ActionParsnipHounddog: or press CTRL+ALT+F1 and use apt-get11:07
sereasdfasdfg: check your ~ for the nvidia-settings config file.. nvidia-settings was changing the brightness for me it was locked on high..but editing the source fixed this11:08
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HounddogActionParsnip: apt-get update already gives me squashfs error ..11:09
Kartagiswhy do I have two folders under /media/, which are /MYUSBDRIVE/ and /MYUSERNAME/MYUSDRIVE ?11:09
ActionParsnipHounddog: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gnome-terminal xterm11:09
ActionParsnipKartagis: does your usb storage have 2 partitions?11:09
nitin__hello11:09
nitin__i have deployed 2 application one on port 80 and another on 303011:09
KartagisActionParsnip: no11:09
Hounddogsquashfs error: unable to read fragment cache entry ...11:10
nitin__application on port 80 is running fine11:10
nitin__but on 3030 is not working11:10
ActionParsnipHounddog: so you are running in liveCD?11:10
HounddogActionParsnip: yes11:10
nitin__please suggest the solution11:10
ActionParsnipHounddog: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?11:10
HounddogActionParsnip: nope11:10
ActionParsnipHounddog: hen how do you know the data was complete and consistant?11:11
HounddogActionParsnip: i dont know ;p will check on that once11:11
ActionParsnipnitin__: nmap the server, see what ports are listening11:11
seresudo apt-get install nmap11:11
nitin__ActionParsnip,  installed nmap11:12
nitin__how to check the ports11:12
nitin__?11:12
phyphorman nmap :)11:13
ishanunny11:13
ishansunny11:13
MrokiiHello. What can I do (besides rebooting) if my USB card reader doesn't recognise an SD card? It randomly stops recognising it.11:13
nitin__nmap11:13
KartagisActionParsnip: I did sudo apt-get upgrade as you suggested, but the package didn't get upgraded :S11:14
HounddogActionParsnip: thx though, am verifying that now11:15
ActionParsnipMrokii: unload then relaod the usb_storage module (check loaded modules first for exact name)11:15
ActionParsnipKartagis: which package?11:15
UbuNoobuHi all - dual-booting on external drive going well after few issues. I'm about to move the HDD to internal, anyone got ideas or knowledge on this?11:16
nitin__ActionParsnip,  thanks11:16
nitin__found the solution11:16
KartagisActionParsnip: mixxx11:16
nitin__ActionParsnip,  how can i enable port 3030 as it is not listed in nmap11:16
nitin__?11:16
ActionParsnipnitin__: run an application that listens on that port11:17
asdfasdfgsere i've got ~/.nvidia-settings-rc11:17
ActionParsnipnitin__: you cannot just "enable a port" if a service is not listening on that port then connecting to it will do nothing11:17
nitin__ActionParsnip, i means port 3030 is not listed in nmap11:17
ActionParsnipnitin__: yes because no application is listening on it11:18
nitin__ActionParsnip, but  i have set the application on port 303011:18
asdfasdfgsere anyhow there is nothing in there on brightness11:18
ActionParsnipnitin__: then check its config11:18
ActionParsnipnitin__: and check it is running11:18
sereasdfasdfg: thats it. now see if the settings for brightness are the same for the actaul program11:18
KartagisThe following packages have been kept back: <--- how can I resolve this?11:18
HounddogActionParsnip: checksum is same and i downloaded the 13.04 not the lts...11:19
ActionParsnipKartagis: some packages have unsatisfied deps11:19
nitin__ActionParsnip,  i have interchanged the application on port 3030 and 8011:19
UbuNoobuwill moving my external HD with 12.04 running as dual-boot with Win7; will moving HDD to internal have adverse effects?  I suppose if Drive number and partition letters change I could have issues?11:19
ActionParsnipKartagis: until the deps in the repos are met, the packages will be held back11:19
asdfasdfgthere are no brightness controls in thee11:19
asdfasdfgneither in nvidia-settings nor in the config file11:19
nitin__application on port 80 runs well but not on 30311:19
ActionParsnipnitin__: all I can suggest is check your configs11:19
Hounddogi should propably rather use the lts version or?11:19
nitin__ActionParsnip,  thanks ... issue resolved by port 8080 for the timebeig11:20
ActionParsnipHounddog: I recommend LTS to normal users11:20
Kartagisdist-upgrade does the trick11:20
Hounddogwell not normal user... i use it for developing but i am, not into all the nitty grittys11:20
Hounddogso yeah11:20
sereasdfasdfg: strange/ they are there for me11:20
ActionParsnipHounddog: 13.04 is supported til Jan 2014, 12.04 is supported til April 2017. Depends if you want to be upgrading 13.04 once it dies etc. Both are fine though11:23
arcripexguys i need help11:23
arcripex(ubuntu software centre) failed to download packages.....check your internet connection ERRORS11:24
ActionParsniparcripex: please use a pastebin and give the output of:  sudo apt-get update11:24
HounddogActionParsnip: i checked the wrong iso anyhow... checked the one on laptop not on desktop :) getting confused here what is on what system lol11:24
ActionParsniparcripex: close software centre first11:24
arcripexActionParsnip: i have what next11:24
HounddogActionParsnip: is the lts and checksum is ok11:25
ActionParsnipacrocity: can you paste the pastebin URL here please11:25
ActionParsnipHounddog: good, please make sure you check before burning so you know the data is ok11:26
ActionParsnipHounddog: log off and you can select the 2D session, may help11:26
ActionParsniparcripex:  can you paste the pastebin URL here please11:26
HounddogActionParsnip: i created the live usb with lili11:27
seba4hi there... i am trying to install package with command sudo -u gitlab -H gem install charlock_holmes --version '0.6.8'11:27
ActionParsnipHounddog: as long as it boots its fine, try the 2D session11:27
seba4but i am getting this code after 1 gem installed11:27
seba4unable to convert "\x98" from ASCII-8BIT to UTF-8 for ext/charlock_holmes/src/file-5.08/src/file, skipping11:28
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HounddogActionParsnip: sorry for asking but how do i get to the  2d session?11:29
ActionParsnipHounddog: click the ubuntu logo near your username in lightdm11:29
Hounddogthx11:29
Dr_Willisthey really need to make that session-selection-button MUCH more obvious..11:30
ActionParsnipDr_Willis: little bit11:30
Dr_Willisbut i tend to use GDM. ;) its much more obvious there.11:30
arcripexActionParsnip: here please http://pastebin.com/uNW9TXvd11:30
Hounddogi have installed ubuntu a few times but never saw this option11:30
Dr_Willisits not like the lightdm screen is cramped on space..11:31
MrokiiActionParsnip: Can you tell me how to do that? Unloading/reloading the usb_storage module?11:31
HounddogDr_Willis: :)11:31
Hounddoghmm11:31
Hounddoggetting new things everytime... failed to load ubuntu session11:32
ActionParsnipMrokii: is that the actual module name though11:32
MrokiiActionParsnip: I have no clue11:32
ActionParsniparcripex: looks fine to me, is the error gone now11:32
ActionParsnipMrokii: lsmod | grep usb11:32
MrokiiActionParsnip: There is a module named "usb_storage"11:33
arcripexActionParsnip: no in USC....errors failed to download package please check internet connection :/11:33
ActionParsnipMrokii: sudo modprobe -r usb_storage; sleep 2; sudo modprobe usb_storage11:34
Dr_Willisnight all...11:34
ActionParsniparcripex: not used USC, too slow. There are some sources being ignored (as you can see from your output)11:34
MrokiiActionParsnip: It helped! Thanks!11:34
ActionParsnipMrokii: and you learned about kernel modules a little11:35
AethysiusQuestion.11:35
ActionParsniparcripex: could try: wget https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage11:36
AethysiusI switched my Ubuntu install to Kubuntu. Is there a quick way for me to fully delete the other desktop environments?11:36
arcripexActionParsnip: so how i downlaod those programs installed frm USC11:36
MrokiiActionParsnip: Yeah, thanks. :)11:36
llutzAethysius: not sure if this still does the job, read http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu11:37
ActionParsniparcripex: i use apt-get in command line11:37
ActionParsniparcripex: did my script hel pany?11:38
ActionParsnip*help any11:38
arcripexActionParsnip: its still running, after that i do what?11:38
ActionParsniparcripex: try the software centre as you expect, basically it removes all package knowledge from your OS and then redownloads fresh11:40
arcripexActionParsnip: ok will try and get back to you thanks in advance11:40
ActionParsniparcripex: that script is badass, its basically the package fix commands in a script for convenience11:41
Aethysiusllutz, no, it doesn't.11:41
HounddogActionParsnip: on boot i set acpi=off now it seems to be working11:42
AethysiusIt's okay.11:42
UbuNoobucan I make drive/partition letters/numbers permanent - so when add/remove HDD's the /dev/sdb stays as 'b' and not be renamed as sdbc or whatever after restart?11:43
llutzUbuNoobu: use labels or UUIDs, not device-names. then you don't have to care about that11:43
starbuckhi, could it be that the last kernel update was just 2 days ago for 12.10 and now today there's already another one? why???11:45
BluesKajHi all11:48
PoolShark_so I have xubuntu precise and for some reason I can't move windows at all... I googled a bunch of stuff and tried a few things related to compiz that were suggested and none of it worked... so...help? :)11:48
PertanbusHey! I've some problems trying to install ubuntu (tried everything between 10.04-13.04) on a HP ProLiant DL360 G4, anyone feeling like helping me out?:)11:48
PoolShark_Pertanbus: what problems?11:49
PertanbusPoolShark_: What ever I do, I end up with the monitor giving me the message "input out of range". The tricky part is that I've installed ubuntu on this server once earlier, and I did not have to problem back then.11:50
PoolShark_Pertanbus: Do a text install11:51
PoolShark_Pertanbus: then figure out what modelines your monitor can support and limit X to those11:51
AethysiusI'm using Banshee, and it's not detecting my Sansa mass storage player.11:51
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jnhghycan a user that has no write privilages over a directory but has read privilages delete it?11:51
PoolShark_Aethysius: you sure your Sansa is in UMS mode?11:51
AethysiusOne sec.11:52
PertanbusPoolShark_: I'll check that out, thanks.11:52
PoolShark_Aethysius: the newer Sansa firmware no longer supports UMS, so if you have upgraded, it won't work11:52
Aethysius:(11:52
PoolShark_(just like Android no longer supports UMS, which is retarded)11:53
B_boyау есть кто?11:56
B_boyребята!11:56
antoniomicheleciao11:59
antoniomichelelist11:59
antoniomichelela nuova squadra11:59
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blzHello!  I have a somewhat inter-jurisdictional question... How does one install the boost program options library under ubuntu latest?12:01
seronisits not included with  'sudo apt-get install boost-dev'  or similar ?12:02
seronis((im gonna be installing boost later today too))12:02
blzseronis, it may be =)  I'm horrifically new to C++, so I'm just getting my bearings...12:02
blzseronis, I'll start with boost-dev and see what happens =)12:02
seronisim not new, but havent used it in about 3 years and only recently adopted xubuntu.   program options is the command line parsing lib right ?12:04
seronisif so at least -some- version of that lib should be in the standard install even if the repo version of boost isnt the latest12:04
antoniomichelela nuova squadra(telefilm)12:04
blzseronis, yes, that's correct.  Apparently libboost-program-options is a thing12:05
Myrtti!list > antoniomichele12:05
ubottuantoniomichele, please see my private message12:05
blzseronis, also, it's not installed with libboost-dev ... fyi.12:05
seronislibboost-all-dev12:06
seronishmm that metapackage seems to be pointing to 1.49 versions of the libs even though 1.53 seems to be in repo too12:07
antoniomicheleàààààààààà12:10
antoniomichele#ubunnto12:10
antoniomichele#ubunto12:11
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HounddogActionParsnip: apparently there seems to be trouble with my mobo... thats why no ethernet connection12:15
{BackBox}userhost / userip12:24
PertanbusPoolShark_:Now I managed to install Ubuntu Server 13.04, but when I boot, I still get the out of range error.12:26
xlairehow to start linux scripting?12:28
PoolShark_Pertanbus: it's probably in frame buffer mode rather than text console mode... what kind of monitor are you using?12:28
PertanbusA 24" LCD 1920x1200.12:28
PertanbusPoolShark_:^12:28
PoolShark_yeah that's odd12:29
datahi, i have a problem in raring. my mouse is hidden when using java-applications, i.e. in their area12:29
PoolShark_I think most LCDs want a 60Hz refresh rate or something like that12:29
PoolShark_the video card is probably getting put into something higher12:29
PertanbusPoolShark_: I got past it by pressing enter only, I guess it's grub that's freaking out..12:29
PertanbusPoolShark_: Well, It's just the integrated video chip in an old ProLiant, I don't think it's configured for higher..12:30
PoolShark_try this kernel boot parameter:12:30
Mittelerdehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions  ?12:31
PoolShark_video=DVI-D:1920x1200@6012:31
PoolShark_and see if that help12:31
PertanbusPoolShark_: Sorry, but where should I put that? In grub config=?12:32
Darkphathi12:32
PoolShark_yeah wherever you put kernel boot parameters12:32
PoolShark_not sure if that's the right place or not12:32
PertanbusPoolShark_: I have no idea, just got it running >_> Cannot remember what I did last time.12:32
PertanbusPoolShark_: Could it be this simple? http://askubuntu.com/questions/54067/how-do-i-safely-change-grub2-screen-resolution12:33
muculusI need ppa of latest version of mysql 5.6, I didnt find it in launchpad.12:34
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datano ideas?12:37
ActionPa1snipdata: about what12:38
PoolShark_Pertanbus: you need to be able to set the refresh rate I think12:38
PertanbusPoolShark_: Yeah, my monitor says its at H:46.3 and V:43 hz.12:38
PertanbusHow am I supposed to change the refresh rate if I cannot see a thing?12:40
dataActionPa1snip: "hi, i have a problem in raring. my mouse is hidden when using java-applications, i.e. in their area"12:41
ActionPa1snipdata: which java are you using?12:42
usr13Pertanbus: Not sure what you are trying to do but, you can add kernel paramaters to the end of the kernel line in /boot/grub/grub.cfg12:42
dataOpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.3.9) (7u21-2.3.9-1ubuntu1)12:42
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ActionPa1snipdata: tried the Oracle Java?12:42
dakirahey. is there an irc channel for ubuntu phone development / ubuntu touch qml sdk?12:42
ActionPa1snipdakira: #ubuntu-phone maybe12:43
datais there a package for that?12:43
usr13Pertanbus: What do you see when you boot up?12:43
ActionPa1snipdata: webupd8 has a PPA with it12:43
dakiraActionPa1snip: thx.. redirected me to #ubuntu-touch ;)12:44
cfhowlett!touch|dakira,12:44
ubottudakira,: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch12:44
dataActionPa1snip: ok, will look for that first, and come back if it isn't solved by that, thanks12:44
giovannix9ciao!12:44
giovannix9!list12:44
ubottugiovannix9: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».12:44
usr13Pertanbus: But you can test it when  you boot, stop the process and edit the kernel line12:44
[freirefellipe]Good day, everyone. I have LAMP and FTP servers installed on my Ubuntu 12.04. I would like to know how do I shut them off for a while so I could save processes on the system. Thank you in advance.12:46
ActionPa1snip[freirefellipe]: stop the services, you can do this via SSH12:47
ruconsedoes anyone know how to disable a driver/module on grub? Does it dpend on the driver parm?12:47
ActionPa1snip[freirefellipe]: the services themselves are quite light, its only when they start doing stuff that they will start using stuff more12:47
ActionPa1snipruconse: you can add the boot option:  modulename.blacklist=112:48
ActionPa1snipruconse: eg:  nouveau.blacklist=112:48
ruconseActionPa1snip: thanks :)12:49
[freirefellipe]ActionPa1snip: Do the '$ sudo service apache2 stop' command work even after reboot? I wish I could turn them off until I want them back.12:50
adam_Hey, can anyone help me with this? I'm trying to change the color of Applet context menu font or background, I'm using two themes that use similar colors and there's no contrast, as seen here http://i.imgur.com/9tySBEi.png12:51
ActionPa1snip[freirefellipe]: it will start at reboot as the startup process is told to start it12:51
ak5any ppa for apache 2.4 ?12:51
ak5I saw one that was last updated 46 weeks ago :(12:51
[freirefellipe]ActionPa1snip: Hmm.. startup process. Clarifying. Thank you, friend!12:52
adam_Hey, can anyone help me with this? I'm trying to change the color of Applet context menu font or background, I'm using two themes that use similar colors and there's no contrast, as seen here http://i.imgur.com/9tySBEi.png12:54
llutz[freirefellipe]: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting12:54
[freirefellipe]llutz: Thank you very much. This is efficiency.12:56
llutz[freirefellipe]: the cookbook might be confusing, but it seems to be the only real useful documentation for upstart12:57
dakotawulfyadam  u could edit the settings.ini  to make it what u want12:58
gear4Hi, I'm on Ubuntu 13.04 x64. I used "apt-get dist-upgrade" and it went smooth, but when I rebooted suddenly Unity panels are missing and Compiz doesn't work. Anyone can help me?12:58
dakotawulfyadam or maybe the gtkrc12:58
adam_where can i find settings.ini?12:59
dakotawulfyadam in the theme12:59
adam_alright I'll take a look thanks12:59
dakotawulfyadam is the theme local  or default theme from set up?13:00
btorchanyone here has an r720 dell box with 12.04 and the 6gbs SAS controller ?13:00
btorchthe LSI SAS1068E fusion-mpt ?13:00
dakotawulfyadam check here /usr/share/themes/13:00
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btorchfor some reason none of the tools I used lsiutil, mpt-status, omsa tools .. none can find the hba .. ubuntu sees it just fine though and drives are availale but I can't manage them unless I go into the hba bios13:01
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adam_I'm using the FlatStudio theme with Faenza Dark icons.13:02
gear4Hi, I'm on Ubuntu 13.04 x64. I used "apt-get dist-upgrade" and it went smooth, but when I rebooted suddenly Unity panels are missing and Compiz doesn't work. Anyone can help me?13:03
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cfhowlettgear4, try this: logout.  choose an alternate (non-unity) desktop environment.  login.  then repeat the process and choose unity13:04
gear4will do13:04
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gear4it never worked, cinnamon and GNOME fallback crashes13:10
gear4hello13:10
cfhowlettgear4, so NO desktop environment at all?13:11
zeroghgear413:11
geekbriHas anybody had the issue with ubuntu 12.04 LTS where when you create an SSH session it doesn't seem to load or respect the pam limits module even though sshd in /etc/pam.d does indeed contain a require for the limits module?13:12
gear4cfhowlett: I can get one but it crashes soon13:12
cfhowlettzerogh, you got ideas?  I'm on xubuntu so my experience is limited ...13:13
gear4right now there's a pop-up saying "Sorry, Ubuntu 13.04 has experienced an internal error"13:13
ddsscwhen running apt-get install apgdiff I get http://pastebin.com/mGybh2sE . how should I proceed?13:13
gear4cfhowlett: on GNOME I get gnome-panel crashing, Cinnamon same, and on Unity it's Compiz13:14
cfhowlettgear4, keep asking in the channel.  this one is over my head.13:15
gear4oky, thanks13:15
sonOfRaIs it possible to configure a Wireless network to only connect, if there is no wired connection available?13:15
llutzsonOfRa: that should be default13:15
sonOfRaCurrenty both my wired connection and the wireless are connecting because both are available, but there is no need to have the wireless connection online13:15
gear4cfhowlett: do you mind c/p my question to me ? I can't remember the contents13:16
sonOfRallutz, doesn't seem to be. On startup, it immediately connects to both13:16
cfhowlettgear4, just say : 13.04 internal error, desktop environment crashes.  also, screen shots would be nice13:16
sonOfRathis is on 13.0413:17
llutzsonOfRa: odd, it doesn't here (12.10)13:17
gear4cfhowlett: I can't take screenshots without a screen13:17
sonOfRaBoth are set to "Connect automatically if available" of course13:17
ddsscapgdiff : Depends: default-jre-headless but it is not going to be installed or13:17
ddssc                    java2-runtime-headless .HALP13:17
ddsscshould I just install that ?13:17
sonOfRaBut I would expect it not to connect to wireless if it can find something that's wired13:17
gear4Unity doesn't have screen after ~2 seconds and GNOME fallback hardly works, and is laggy13:17
gear4anyway, thanks13:18
gear413.04 internal error, desktop environment crashes after dist-upgrade.13:18
llutzsonOfRa: true and thats how it worked here since 9.04 for me. sry, i cannot help13:18
huluwhy the useradd don't copy file from /etc/skel13:24
huluwho can help me13:24
voozeAfter installing ubuntu with unity all was fine until i logged out after a few hours, and I was unable to load into unity. I tested with gnome shell and that just shows gnome-fallback, so I guess its graphics (Intel HD 4000) thats the problem. Any ideas how to solve somthing like this?13:24
cfhowlettgear4, zee vooze's issue.  seem familiar13:25
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JonathanDcan I make 13.04 remember where I put my external monitor?13:27
JonathanDSo I don't have to move it every single morning?13:27
troulouliou_devhi when i unplug and plug back my ethernet wire; the interface is not going up anymore until reboot, any idea ?13:29
WormFoodI have an ubuntu system that was just upgraded, and now the screen resolution is super low. What is the ubuntu way to reset the screen resolution to the monitor default resolution? (also, nothing is showing on the 2nd monitor). This is the newest release of ubuntu, that just came out13:33
jdolesHow can I configure Skype to use my microphone such that it keeps working?13:35
jdolesOne of the problems with that GUI is that I cannot see when something is in the on state or not.13:37
jdolesThere are two states and they look differently, but there is no reason to assume one it on and the other is off.13:38
dakotawulfyWormFood what video card do have?13:38
adamkWormFood: Sounds like there's sometihng weird with your video drivers.  Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.13:38
WormFoodit's on-board...not sure if it is an ati or an nvidia (I don't have the computer in front of me)13:38
dakotawulfyWormFood should be able to install driver and go to settings  you can change all that stuff under there.13:39
WormFoodand since the icons are not visible, there is no way to run a browser to pastebin it13:40
adamkWormFood: You don't need a browser.  You can use pastebinit from a console.13:41
WormFoodI'm walking him through forwarding a port, so I can login to his computer, and see what exactly is going on myself (this may take a few minutes)13:42
babilenddssc: Please ask your question in here13:43
rosenzweigI need a bit of help.13:45
rosenzweigI get to the login screen, I try logging in, and it just brings me back to the user account log in screen.13:45
rosenzweigThe password is correct, but it just won't log me into my account.13:45
rosenzweigNow I can log into my guest account, just not my main account.13:45
rosenzweigNone of the solutions online are working.13:45
ddsscwhen running apt-get install apgdiff I get http://pastebin.com/mGybh2sE . how should I proceed?13:46
ddsscbabilen, when running apt-get install apgdiff I get http://pastebin.com/mGybh2sE . how should I proceed?13:46
rosenzweigFurther on, I can log into my account via terminal, but not just through the graphic desktop environment.13:46
rosenzweigWhich is extremely odd.13:46
babilenddssc: Try updating your package cache and upgrading your box. But I don't know much about these Ubuntu specific packages and can't really help with them ...13:46
bdavenportrosenzweig, any errors reported by X/window manager?13:47
rosenzweigI'm not sure. How should I go about checking for those?13:47
bdavenportiv had that happen before and had to go chase updates13:47
rosenzweigI'd prefer to fix this fast. I want to Skype with my GF. :( Anyways, yeah, how do I do that?13:48
rosenzweigI can go into the console right now and plug whatever command you wish.13:48
jdolesAudacity works just with my microphone. How can I configure Skype to do that?13:48
jdolesjust fine*13:48
bdavenportdont think its gonna be a fast fix, but check out /var/log/Xorg.0.log13:48
bdavenportsee if there is anything in there that is an error13:49
nb72Is there an easy way to track system load? I'm trying to compaire performance between a couple different software packages. Performance testing basically.13:49
bdavenportalso look at the files in /var/log/gdm13:49
koskozwhere do I find this static option under Ubuntu 13? http://www.only10types.com/2011/06/ubuntu-1104-natty-slow-alttab-window.html13:49
babilenddssc: Seriously, you run Ubuntu and if you don't like the level of support provided you should think about your choice of distribution.13:50
rosenzweigbdavenport, I'm not seeing anything weird.13:51
rosenzweigWhat should I primarily look for?13:51
bdavenportrosenzweig, hard to say, iv only had your issue once, and it was many months ago.  I just remember that it was a failed upgrade that caused a lib to be missing that caused gdm to not play nice on login13:52
bdavenportyour best bet is to just read the logs13:52
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rosenzweigI don't know what to look for with these logs.13:52
rosenzweigI'm going to be lost.13:52
bdavenportas I said, not likly fast fix till you know the full problem13:52
rosenzweigI think that's what happened to me.13:53
WormFoodadamk, thanks for the reminder to check the x11 logs. I can't get into his system right now, so I'm gonna go over tomorrow afternoon, and get everything setup for him in person, since he is inexperienced, and it is too hard to work over the phone with him.13:54
WormFoodthe fun thing is, he needs to forward a port on his router, so I can ssh into his machine, but his router's configuration is ALL in Chinese (and he can't read Chinese)13:55
WormFoodI'm lucky enough, I can figure out Chinese routers, even if I can't read anything (but I can read some)13:56
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bdavenportWormFood, random and crazy idea, have him ssh out but open up a ssh tunnel that you can go back through and login that way, skipping the router13:56
alexblighI'm trying to install package X with 'apt-get install X'. It tries to remove package Y which is for various reasons broken. X and Y are unrelated. Removing Y fails, so X doesn't get installed. Is there a way to just install X?13:56
alexbligh(apart from wget the .deb and dpkg -i - don't want to deal with dependencies)13:56
WormFoodbdavenport, that is a good idea, however, he isn't even connected to the network for some reason. I told him if he can get it figured out on his own, to give me a call back, and we'll go from there, but I'm just planning on paying him a visit tomorrow afternoon13:57
* bdavenport knew he should have tacked on a if pc is connected 13:57
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WormFoodhe is not a real experienced linux user13:58
WormFoodlucky for him, I am....but he is tired (it's 10pm here), and I don't feel like troubleshooting network issues over the phone13:59
WormFoodsooooo....that means a house call tomorrow ;)13:59
bdavenportyeah, dont blame you for that one13:59
bdavenportfree beer hopefully too ;)14:00
WormFoodI've not seen his home setup before14:00
WormFoodyeah, that'd be nice14:00
WormFoodor free hash :D14:00
res32Hi, I need some help with broadcom wireless drivers on 13.0414:00
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res32The propreitary driver in Additional Drivers has been installed but it says the devicce is using alternate driver14:02
WLUjust did a rm -rf  /usr/share by accident any suggestion other the n a full reinstall14:03
WormFoodrestore from backup14:03
rosenzweigIt fails to load fglrx.14:03
rosenzweig:\14:03
rosenzweigI think that's the problem.14:03
res32Any help with that wireless driver problem I gave?14:04
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rosenzweigbdavenport, somehow my fglrx driver got fucked up.14:09
rosenzweigIt makes kind of sense.14:09
rosenzweigBut how am I able to log into this guest account then? :\14:09
gear413.04 internal error, desktop environment crashes after dist-upgrade.14:09
h00krosenzweig: keep the language appropriate in here, please14:11
rosenzweigh00k, 'kay.14:11
koskozwhere do I find this static option under Ubuntu 13? http://www.only10types.com/2011/06/ubuntu-1104-natty-slow-alttab-window.html14:16
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nb72Is there an easy way to track system load (cpu, memory, disk IO) for somewhat short periods of time? I'm trying to compaire performance between a couple different software packages. Performance testing basically.14:25
MonkeyDustnb72  gkrell, conky14:26
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tomshredsHi14:28
tomshredswhen using php-fpm, which freaking php.ini should I edit to get a change?14:28
samuel_anyone else having a problem with 13.04 where apps dont show in the dock when open?14:29
nb72conky looks like it does what I'm looking for, but it looks like it requires X and I'm running ubuntu-server. can't find anything on gkrell14:29
samuel_i'm talking, software center, image viewer (when viewing pdf)14:29
nb72tomshreds, if you create a php file with 'phpinfo()' call, it will tell you the location of the php.ini14:30
tomshredsok thanks14:30
mdfenb72, http://nmon.sourceforge.net/pmwiki.php14:32
nb72mdfe, Thanks, that looks just like what I'm looking for.14:33
mdfenb72, you know htop can log as well, or you can redirect to a file14:33
koskozis there a way to use a different alt-tab applicaiton in ubuntu 13? The default one (compiz one?) is so slow and buggy that's a shame14:34
MonkeyDustkoskoz  compiz is a window manager, do you wish to replace compiz?14:36
nb72mdfe, didn't know that. Thanks. Although it looks like nmon has some nice tools to look at the data. Thanks for the help.14:36
koskozMonkeyDust: I just wanna find a way to have a real alt-tab, like in Gnome. Not a slow and buggy one14:36
MonkeyDustkoskoz  lubuntu and xubuntu are fast, so alt-tab will be fast too14:38
MonkeyDustas to the key combination: it's the same in every DE and if I'm not mistaking, in evey OS14:40
koskozMonkeyDust: I'm not talking about Unity being slow are something related to the keys combination, I'm saying that the utility handling quick switching between programs is bugged and slow14:41
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yofunis fgets a package? or something?14:42
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yofunstdin_monitor_thread.cpp 84 run : fgets failed < is that a package thats needed or something?14:43
koskozlot of tab my alt-tab just go behind every others opened programs, I can't see it but it still working. Very annoying...14:43
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ActionPa1snip!find fgets14:46
ubottuFile fgets found in allegro4-doc, allegro5-doc, apcalc-common, ats-lang-anairiats-examples, autoconf-archive, avr-libc, c-cpp-reference, explain, gnulib, haproxy (and 15 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=fgets&mode=&suite=raring&arch=any14:46
b3nhi guys --- using 13.04 -- why are lokal pikture files not showing in photo lens ?14:50
George_HenbergHi anyone here? Please help me. My brightness key doesn't work. It works fine in windows14:50
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lolalliancehave u tried via the settins?14:51
George_HenbergI'm using raring right now. Its not a new issue, its been longstanding.14:51
George_HenbergI'm using Acer Aspire 4736z14:51
George_Henbergyea, i've tried numerous methods found in the internet14:51
George_HenbergEverything failed to work.14:52
George_Henberglolalliance: Any idea?14:52
George_HenbergAny help from anyone?14:53
mad_hi14:55
George_Henberghi Mad_14:55
b3n hi guys --- using 13.04 -- why are lokal pikture files not showing in photo lens ?14:56
Mannymy rootdirectory filled up and then i freed some space and rebooted now i have some problems, its saying that mysql.sock is missing and apache2 as well as ssh dont work ... is there anyway to fix that ?14:59
IsmAvatarhey guys, just did a fresh install of Ubuntu 13.04, but when I log in, it seems like the gnome session immediately locks up. Unity displays, but the top bar doesn't show any icons (like the Gear that I use to reboot/shutdown). Mouse still functions.15:00
IsmAvatarand unity is unresponsive15:01
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gear4hi, I found out how to get around my previous problem, of Ubuntu GUI crashing15:02
gear4what I did was I selected kernel 3.8.0-19 instead of 3.8.0-21, and used GNOME 3 as my GUI15:03
bjrohan_Help . .  I am looking for some direction. I am part of a small organization of 6 - 10 people. I am looking for a solution that will allow us to host  files (file server) and collaborate on files,   any suggestions where to start?15:03
gear4bjrohan_, Samba15:03
IsmAvatarGoogle Drive :-p15:04
higlihi i want to use normal ubuntu but i cant beacuse my wifi dosent wor it only works on zorinOS15:04
higlihow to fix15:04
gear4higli, download it on the computer you're on now15:04
bjrohan_The other people are . .  technically inept. I tried Alfresco, which looked like it would work, but I would also like to implement a workflow for projects15:04
gear4bjrohan_, an old dog can learn new tricks. but hey, that's all I know of15:05
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bjrohan_:-) thanks.15:05
gear4np15:05
higligear4:  you dont understan i have live,ubuntu, kubuntu, kali and when i boot them i have no wifi  my wifi only works on ZorinOS so what is on zorin istalld so i can istall the same on ubuntu so it shoud work?15:06
gear4bjrohan_, in all honesty Samba is easy to use15:06
gear4higli, do you have LAN cables ?15:07
gear4if so, use those, and download the Additional Drivers15:07
higligear4:  no15:07
IsmAvatarso how would I fix the gnome session immediately locking up upon login? (Fresh 13.04 install)15:07
gear4higli, then I don't know, sorry15:07
gear4higli, as far as I know it's the Additional Drivers that are needed15:08
higligear4:  but now i am in zorin and when i click on adition driwers it doset show any15:08
gear4higli, I meant in Ubuntu15:08
ActionPa1sniphigli: zorin isn't supported here15:08
gear4that's true as well15:08
higliActionPa1snip:  i dont want to use zorin i want to use ubunt15:09
ActionPa1sniphigli: what wifi chip are you using?15:09
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Mannyanyone has an idea how to get mysql ssh apache again working after "no disk space happened" after reboots (now there is space left)15:10
higliralink rt3070 usb but linux uses rt2800sta and it works on zorin but not on ubuntu i think it hes somthing to do whit wpa_supplicat beacuse i see network but i cant connect it ask for passwor again and again15:10
bjrohan_higli: Does Samba allow for easy sharing permissions?15:11
higlibjrohan_:  i dont know what is samba15:11
ActionPa1snipbjrohan_: imho yes15:11
rosenzweigI still can't log into my admin account on Ubuntu.15:11
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rosenzweigI wish I knew what was wrong.15:11
ActionPa1sniprosenzweig: drop to root recovery mode and you can use passwd there to reset user account passwords15:12
Guest1859hi  everyone15:12
rosenzweigMy password sin't the problem.15:12
rosenzweigisn't*15:12
higlianybody help me?15:12
rosenzweigThe password is fine, it just logs in and then brings me back to the log in page.15:12
ActionPa1sniphigli: I asked you a question, you havem't replied15:12
higliActionPa1snip:  i did15:13
higliActionPa1snip: ralink rt3070 usb but linux uses rt2800sta and it works on zorin but not on ubuntu i think it hes somthing to do whit wpa_supplicat beacuse i see network but i cant connect it ask for passwor again and again15:13
rosenzweigActionPa1snip, there's something wrong with a config file or package or something. When I log in, I get presented with this pretty black flash and then I'm returned to my login menu.15:13
freebufhi15:14
ActionPa1sniphigli: under zorin, run:  sudo lshw -C network    and make notes, then do the same in Ubuntu and compare15:15
ActionPa1sniprosenzweig: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 and log in there and run:  sudo chown $USER:$USER $HOME15:15
rosenzweigActionPa1snip, tried that.15:15
rosenzweigTo no success, unfortunately. :(15:16
ActionPa1sniprosenzweig: make sure your user is the owner of it's own home. You can run:  sudo reboot     and login15:16
rosenzweigI'll try again I suppose.15:16
higliActionPa1snip:  what hes this to do wht wpa suplicant15:16
rosenzweigShould user be my username or no?15:17
Nothing_Muchrosenweig, I'd prefer "owner"15:18
rosenzweigEither way, I'm going to try and restart.15:18
higliActionPa1snip:  do you even know what is wpa supplicant?15:19
IsmAvatarhey guys, just did a fresh install of Ubuntu 13.04, but when I log in, it seems like the gnome session immediately locks up. Unity displays, but the top bar doesn't show any icons (like the Gear that I use to reboot/shutdown). Mouse still functions, but I can't click anything.15:19
Yud_ZrocGood day to everyone here, Does Ubuntu and Kubuntu (Unity/KDE) share the same app store?15:20
rosenzweigOkay, so that didn't do anything.15:20
gear4Yud_Zroc, yes15:20
rosenzweigI checked the log and it was complaining about fglrx. Is there anyway to quickly install the free driver and get it working? No BS in between?15:21
shadow98hey guys i am trying to come up with a remote desktop solutions that is fast.  I am coming from 10.04 which as worked fine forever when i vnc in from my windows box...however switching to 13.04 has made thing almost unusable i turne off some of the desktop feature with compwiz...however it is still slow.....I have tried lowest settings on ultra vnc and I have also installed teamviewer all our to slow..15:21
Yud_Zrocthankyou gear415:21
rosenzweigRight now I'm using some vga driver that is horrible, so I need to get the free driver working.15:21
gear4no problem Yud_Zroc15:21
rosenzweigMaybe that'll fix it.15:21
shadow98any suggestions for keeping the new interface and being able to use remote vnc15:21
higlisomone help me my wifi wont connect ask for pasword again and again i think it hes somthing to do whit wpa supplicant15:21
yeatshigli: what model wifi card?15:23
gear4shadow98, tried using VNC server ?15:23
gear4enable with this: gsettings set org.gnome.Vino enabled true15:23
th0rshadow98, I think NX is faster than vnc15:23
gear4it works perfectly for me though15:23
higliyeats:  ralink 3070 but it uses rt2800sta and it works on zorin but it dosent on ubuntu and kubuntu refuses to connect ask for password15:23
llutz!info linux-image-generic quantal > llutz15:25
compdocshadow98, Ive recently switched to x11rdp, but desktop options are limied with 13.04. It has to use gnome-seesion-fallback, which is nothing like Unity.15:25
higliso?15:25
^MikeI have a VPN connection set up in NetworkManager, but the MTU is being set incorrectly. I want to add the correct MTU in the config file, but putting "Interface MTU=x" into /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/VPN_connection causes vpnc to die with "Config option 'Interface MTU' invalid or unknown"15:25
higli^Mike:  did you try to turn off first VPN then set MTU then turn on VPN15:26
^Mikehigli: I don't need to change the MTU for eth0, I need to change it for tun0 only. I can do that manually of course, but I should be able to configure that in the tunnel config, no?15:27
higli^Mike:  soory i dont know, do you meybe know how to set up wpa supplicant15:28
^Mikehigli: Why would I need to do that?15:28
^MikeThe issue is NetworkManager's config having no way I can find to set MTU15:29
higli^Mike:  you dont i need thet15:29
mauithis livestream does not play in ubuntu mozila15:32
mauihttp://www.hse24.de/Thema/Tvwelt/Startseite.html15:32
mauii cant even see a 'play' button as i can in windows15:32
Walther_Trying to install Ubuntu 13.04 alongside Windows 8 on a non-UEFI (BIOS) computer - installer claims the disk is empty / has no partition table, and firing up gparted results in the weird "GPT but no fake msdos" error.15:32
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iceroot_maui: working here on ubuntu 13.04 with firefox15:33
th0r^Mike, I found MTU in network mangler15:33
mauihmm15:33
mauiis there a patch of plugins i should download?15:33
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iceroot_maui: just install flash15:33
iceroot_maui: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer15:33
^Miketh0r: For VPN connections?15:34
fractalinetrying to update software through muon in kde but i get this error:  This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided15:34
shadow98compdoc: i can't see how something like this can be released with such issues with remote viewing....even windows is better than this..15:34
fractalinebut i'm not getting the option??15:35
th0r^Mike, Configure VPN, highlight the VPN connection and choose Edit, click on the VPN tab, click on Advanced15:35
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WaltherTrying to install Ubuntu 13.04 alongside Windows 8 on a non-UEFI (BIOS) computer - installer claims the disk is empty / has no partition table, and firing up gparted results in the weird "GPT but no fake msdos" error.15:36
mauithanks, it worked15:36
compdocshadow98, yeah, seems to be related to doig away with Unity 2D. There is mention of a completely differrent desktop envirtonment coming to Ubuntu named 'Mir'. Maybe that will help...15:36
jilebedevWhat is the recommended method of ensuring that a network file system is mounted correctly? I want to write a little admin script to check whether a network file share is mounted, but I think I'm reinventing the wheel. Any pointers? Shares are FUSE,Samba, and NFS.15:37
iceroot_compdoc: mir is not a desktop environment15:37
shadow98compdoc: i hope so cause this is way to slow to get anything done....teamviewer works but it locks up after week of use15:37
iceroot_compdoc: mir is a replacment for the x-server15:37
^Miketh0r: okay... I don't see MTU: http://i.imgur.com/nXjqchg.png15:37
llutzMir will be fun for kubuntu-users...15:38
compdocshadow98, well, if you dont mind a more gnome like desktop for 13.04, google x11rdp. theres a script on scarygliders that will install it for you. RDP works a bit better than VNC, I think15:39
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th0r^Mike, must be a special church of ubuntu feature...here is what I get in xubuntu....http://imgur.com/uoUBhxz15:40
ActionPa1snipcompdoc: I thought Mir replaced Xorg?15:40
iceroot_ActionPa1snip: yes15:40
rosenzweigSo I installed the free driver and good news, the fonts don't look bad anymore.15:40
rosenzweigBad news, I still can't log into my main account.15:40
rosenzweigI type in the password, it flashes me a black screen with some writing on it, and it presents me with that lovely login screen again.15:41
rosenzweigTime to look at the xorg file... again. Would anyone mind perusing it for me if I uploaded it on a text site?15:41
X-warriorhello, I got an ssd/caddy so I moved the hdd to caddy and put my ssd on hdd place. But for now I still want to be able to boot from caddy hdd. But my bios doesn't have an option to choose which hd to boot from, it has cd/rom, usb, hd... if I choose cd/rom it doesn't boot at all, and choosing hd, it tries to boot from ssd (but it doesn`t have anything on it). Any ideas how to proceed? hdd has ubuntu and windows15:41
th0r^Mike, I am running xubuntu 12.04 and nm-applet15:41
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bacoirc://irc.openjoke.org/enjoy15:42
th0r^Mike, that is an openvpn entry...maybe that makes a difference15:42
ActionPa1sniprosenzweig: can you log in as another user?15:43
rosenzweigI can go into my guest account.15:43
rosenzweigWhich I am in now.15:43
rosenzweigAnd I can log into it into the terminal.15:43
th0r^Mike, yup....my pptp vpn entries don't have all those options15:43
Wolkechello15:43
Wolkeccan someone help me15:43
rosenzweigThe only problem is that I cannot log into my admin account via the graphic display.15:43
^Miketh0r: Yes, well, this is a pptp VPN connection, so... :)15:43
SonikkuAmerica!anyone | Wolkec15:43
ubottuWolkec: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.15:43
rosenzweigSo it's not a driver issue, there's nothing wrong with the admina ccount itself.15:43
rosenzweigThere's something wrong with me logging into that account via unity.15:43
th0r^Mike, yeah...in my pptp connections there is no mtu entry that I can see15:44
^Miketh0r: In any event, I don't even mind that it's not in the GUI, I'15:44
ActionPa1sniprosenzweig: can you log into a different session?15:44
rosenzweigI'm in the guest session.15:44
th0rWolkec, let me get out my crystal ball and check on your problem15:44
rosenzweigI only have my admin account and the guest account.15:44
^Miketh0r: I'm happy to edit the config file -- except that networkmanager doesn't understand the configuration directive for setting MTU15:44
rosenzweigThe guest account having no password.15:44
ActionPa1sniprosenzweig: no, as your first user?15:44
laurent__*15:44
Wolkecok, i've recently updated to 13.04; And when i loged on i only saw my wallpaper, i've tryed downgrading kernel, reinstalling legacy ati drivers and now finally i've used bash and reset unity and got the sidebar thingie, but it's still not working propperly15:44
ActionPa1sniprosenzweig: like log in to xfce session etc15:45
Wolkeci can't switch screens anymore15:45
rosenzweigNo.15:45
Wolkecand there's no animations15:45
rosenzweigThat doesn't work.15:45
Wolkecwhat should i do15:45
rosenzweigI hope that help narrows down the problem.15:45
rosenzweigI tried gdm and lightgdm and they didn't work.15:45
WolkecI'm not even sure if i've downgraded the kernels propperly i just followed a guide on the net15:45
compdociceroot_, ActionPa1snip, well I didnt mean it was a desktop replacement. I was just hoping it might help with these remote desktop issues like jilebedev and I are having15:45
WolkecI have ati 4890 so i think i need legacy drivers, but aren't sure15:46
th0r^Mike, I have very liimited experience with vpn, but wonder if you just dropped the 'interface' from the line you mentioned if it would work15:47
rosenzweigActionPa1snip, so in short I can't log into my admin account in any graphic session (but I can log into it via terminal).15:47
ActionPa1sniprosenzweig: if you log into XFCE, is it ok. If you don't have XFCE installed you can drop to TTY1 and run:  sudo apt-get install xfce4    then log in to the XFCE session in lightdm15:47
SonikkuAmericaActionPa1snip: Would the trash-your-.Xauthority thing work with rosenzweig maybe?15:48
rosenzweigI tried that already, SonikkuAmerica.15:48
Wolkecth0r So... what did the crystal ball say15:48
SonikkuAmericarosenzweig: No sale, hmm?15:48
rosenzweigNo sale.15:48
th0rWolkec, I don't use 13.04 or unity, so can't help15:48
rosenzweigI'll try xfce.15:48
rosenzweigbut I don't think it'll work.15:48
rosenzweigI'll be right back.15:49
rosenzweigYeah, using the xfce session manager didn't work.15:51
rosenzweigCan't login my account there either.15:51
rosenzweigI'll try the xauthority thing again I suppose.15:52
rosenzweigDo I have to be logged out of the guest account for that to work?15:52
blzHello,  I've just installed fish, but chsh -s /usr/bin/fish doesn't seem to have any effect15:53
blzwhat gives?15:53
WolkecHow can i get my kernel version someone please tell me15:54
th0rWolkec, uname -a?15:54
llutzblz: is fish a valid login-shell? check /etc/shells15:54
blzllutz, I did.  It's in there15:54
blzllutz, but good thought!15:54
blzllutz, does chsh require a logout/in?15:54
llutzblz: sure15:55
blzllutz, that might explain everything ^ ^15:55
llutzblz: it changes your login-shell, so you have to re-login15:55
WolkecCan someone tell me what kind of drivers i need if i have an ati 4xxx series15:55
Wolkeclegacy or proprietary15:55
rosenzweigYeah, xauthority isn't even a file.15:55
blzllutz, thanks =)15:55
rosenzweigIt's just empty.15:55
ActionPa1snipWolkec: which release?15:55
Wolkeci'm on 13.0415:55
ActionPa1sniprosenzweig: it's ~/.Xauthority15:55
llutzblz: getent passwd $USER   should show it as shell15:55
ActionPa1snipWolkec: you will need the legacy PPA15:55
adamkWolkec: I'd suggest just using the open source drivers.15:56
blzllutz, yep!  It even knows my name!15:56
Wolkecopen source drivers?15:56
ActionPa1snipWolkec: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx15:56
rosenzweigI know. It's still not a file... ~/.Xauthority15:56
ActionPa1snipWolkec: no, proprietary but there is a known issue with 2xx 3xxx and 4xxx ATi GPUs15:56
urgodfatherhello room, I'm having trouble connecting on an intel 6235 while live booting15:56
Wolkecok, so i should follow the steps from that site?15:57
rosenzweigSo what else is there to do, ActionPa1snip. Have any clues?15:57
urgodfatherthe laptop also has 12.10 installed but it doesnt even show my network in it15:57
ActionPa1sniprosenzweig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/567442915:57
WolkecIf that the case please consider resetting Unity configuration to default or use other DE. How can i do that15:57
rosenzweigWhat should I do with that, ActionPa1snip?15:58
ActionPa1snipWolkec: could install xfce4 package and be ok15:58
rosenzweigUse it as my Xauthority file?15:58
ActionPa1sniprosenzweig: just showing it is a file15:58
WaltherWhat is the current "correct" way to install ATI drivers on Ubuntu 13.04?15:58
rosenzweigI know but I removed it, and it never made a new one.15:58
WaltherJockey seems to be depreceated?15:58
SonikkuAmerica!fglrx | Walther, try this15:58
rosenzweigIt's not a file on my system... since I deleted it.15:58
ubottuWalther, try this: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto15:58
rosenzweigI was expecting a new one to be generated.15:58
urgodfatherdoes anyone know how to troubleshoot this problem?15:58
Wolkecxfce4? Will it work as fast as legacy?15:58
WaltherSonikkuAmerica: Last updated 2012, not sure if I want to trust that15:59
ActionPa1sniprosenzweig: try:   mkxauth -u $USER -c `hostname`    as your first user, run it as I gave it15:59
chilukurgodfather, is there a chance it's listed under more networks?15:59
SonikkuAmericaWalther: There are mixed results with prop drivers; ...15:59
rosenzweigOkay, I'l try that.15:59
WolkecSo should i got for xfce4 or should i go for legacy drivers? How can i reset my unity settings as those seems to be bugged15:59
urgodfatherchiluk: it is not16:00
WaltherSonikkuAmerica: I know there are mixed results, mostly I'm just looking for the most current "correct" way to install - before, jockey / jockey-gtk was the way to go16:00
chilukurgodfather, is there a chance you have mac address filtering enabled on your router?16:00
chilukurgodfather, are other wireless networks visible?16:00
krababbelHi, can I upgrade using apt-get upgrade, so that also recommended packages are installed? They are left out and --install-recommends won't work on upgrade it seems.16:00
Wolkecgo for*16:00
SonikkuAmericaWalther: The fglrx is the only driver that doesn't show up there, but it's a side for software-properties now, Jockey is16:01
rosenzweigActionPa1snip, it doesn't do anything. It just presents me with a new line with a ">"16:01
rosenzweigI'm not exactly sure what to do with it.16:01
urgodfatherchiluk: filtering... no, other networks, yes... some (not all)16:02
chilukand you are using a 6235 on 12.10..16:02
ActionPa1sniprosenzweig: then you miscopied the command16:02
operator1hello all who have come :)16:02
chilukurgodfather, perhaps you might want to try the 13.04 image instead of the 12.10... 6235 is pretty recent... you might just need a newer driver.16:03
rosenzweigOh yeah, I did. Silly me.16:03
rosenzweigmkxauth not found.16:03
chilukurgodfather, there have been a number of recent updates to that driver between 12.10 and 13.04.16:03
chilukurgodfather, if it helps I'm runnign 13.04 happily right now.16:03
urgodfatherchiluk: im running 13.04 liveboot right now. it see's the network, but isnt connecting16:04
WolkecActionPa1snip Where can i find the xfce4 package? And can you please tell me how to reset unity / unity settings16:04
chilukurgodfather, that's really odd.. check var/log/syslog and var/log/kern.log for any wireless related error messages.16:04
chilukalso from a terminal try iwlist to see if you can see the wireless network from there.16:05
irvcan't seem to select any resolution higher than 1024x768 when plugged into my projector... in windows i can run it at native res which is like 1366x76816:05
irvany ideas?16:05
chilukurgodfather, sorry  you see it but aren't connecting.. that's really odd...16:05
rosenzweigYeah, I tried typing it in again to see if I mistyped it. ActionPa1snip, mkxauth isn't a package or command that I have. What should I do? I tried installing it, but obviously it wasn't found in the repository.16:06
chilukurgodfather, don't be insulted, but re-check your key, and make sure your router isn't rejecting the connection.16:06
infexionirv: video drivers?16:06
johnsmithI was having audio issues, but I guess it's fixed now. The sound icon isn't in the top right corner like it's suppose to, though.  How do I get it back?16:06
chilukurgodfather, also maybe reboot your router..16:06
urgodfatheri have the same chip in a different laptop. when i first installed it, it took a few tries but finally it started working... this laptop im getting no luck16:07
irvinfexion: how can i go about installing those for my onboard16:07
urgodfatherchiluk: not router (i work at a pc shop)16:07
chilukurgodfather, it might be a bad wireless card... did you see anything in the logs..16:07
chilukurgodfather, it has been known to happen.16:07
urgodfatherchiluk: its new.. how to check logs?16:08
chilukvi /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/syslog16:08
urgodfatherchiluk: it also works fine in winbloes16:08
chilukand look for anything related to wifi... or intel.. or wi016:08
Matt____This might be a bit of a stretch, but has anyone gotten Ubuntu to work on a HP Envy 4 Sleekbook?16:08
chilukurgodfather, ok that's a good checkpoint..16:08
Anom01yHi, is there any utils or tools that will clear up my memory, I remember in windows there was a tool call memfix or something that refreshed my ram,16:09
Anom01yI am asking because I think my video driver ram is getting filled up or leaked (by adobe flash),16:09
chiluk Matt____  probably... canonical has a support agreement with HP...and a number of employees use them.16:09
Anom01yafter leaving my computer on for a week the video gets slow16:09
Anom01y(screensavers, openGL stuff ect)16:09
Matt____chiluk Ah, sterling. I'm currently having some woes actually installing Ubuntu on my machine.16:10
chilukAnom01y, check /var/log/Xorg*.log for EE16:10
operator1ok. I m here to spend time, observe and learn. I am dev from #puppylinux . I want to get invloved in dev here but I believe them to be very different system and archs. So I am here to be here... I am here to help if you want it otherwise only to observe and to pay attention... Who handles newbs???16:10
chilukMatt____, I in particular have an asus16:10
Matt____The installer is rather prone to crashing. Oh, and I can't write to the HDD. Even with Secure Boot and the like turned off.16:10
chilukMatt____, what install disk are you using?16:11
urgodfatherchiluk: couldnt get log to print any info16:11
Anom01ychiluk,16:11
johnsmithThe sound icon isn't showing in the top panel, how do I get it back?16:11
ActionPa1snipoperator1: everyone, we are all users16:11
Anom01yI will get back to you just on the phone now16:11
chilukMatt____, It sounds like a newer laptop make sure you are using at least 13.0416:11
irvinfexion: it's the intel driver, and apparently those are installed by default16:11
irvi think it's just incorrectly detecting the display, says unknown display16:12
chilukurgodfather, run sudo vi /var/log/kern.log        and sudo vi /var/log/syslog16:12
operator1ActionPa1snip, very well. thank you for the warm welcome. I hope to learn much in this experience16:12
operator1:)16:12
Matt____I am indeed.16:12
irvany ideas how to force the resolution?16:12
chilukAnom01y, I'm not paid support... don't get back to me.16:12
Matt____Using 13:04. Model is 4-1101sa16:12
operator1xorgwizard won't do it?16:12
chilukalright have to get back to my day job... sorry guys... hopefully i helped a little.16:14
johnsmithThe sound icon isn't showing in the top panel, any way I can get it back?16:14
voidddI'm experiencing "Dummy Output" problem in ubuntu 13.04. Please help16:14
chilukvoiddd phrase your question like this... when I do ..... I see .....16:15
voidddjohnsmith: have you installed indicator-sound ?`16:15
urgodfatherchiluk: i ended up rebooting the live boot16:15
voidddWhen I switch on the system, and play audio, there's no sound. When I check the sound settings, it shows "Dummy Ouput" in the place for Output16:16
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johnsmithvoidd, have you reinstalled alsa-base and pulseaudio?16:17
johnsmithvoiddd, have you reinstalled alsa-base and pulseaudio?16:18
urgodfatherchiluk: should i be looking for something in particular16:18
voidddjohnsmith: yes, I have tried it16:18
irvany ideas how to force ubuntu to use a resolution that's not being detected by xrandr or the 'displays' control16:19
irvintel onboard16:19
irvand a viewsonic projector16:19
hedinHi, I have installed 12.04 desktop and most stuff is working, but I can't get alt+f1 to work, the unity/ubuntu icon just turns brighter16:19
SeluthaI have installed virtual machine manager, I want to manage a kvm host from my desktop, The problem comes to when i try to add the remote host, googled this and it keeps telling me to go to 'file' at the top of the windows. The problem is there is no 'file' there.  ubuntu 12.04 LTS16:19
chilukurgodfather, hit G to go to the bottom and work your way up16:19
ActionPa1snipirv: there is a way to add resolutions to xrandr, or you can use an xorg.conf file16:20
chilukurgodfather,  but yeah... just have to read... to see if there are any errors related to wireless16:20
MonkeyDusthedin  same here, in raring, the colour changes with alt-f116:20
MonkeyDusthedin  what is alt-f1 supposed to do?16:20
johnsmithvoiddd, try sudo alsa force-reload. Then restart your computer.16:20
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voiddd johnsmith The audio works when I use force-reload, but when I restart the system, it goes back to the way it was16:21
urgodfatherchiluk: would it say error?16:21
hedinMonkeyDust: I would expect it to give me a search installed programs functionality16:21
chilukurgodfather, it might.... it might not.16:21
hedinas I get in gnome16:21
arooni-mobilehelp i upgraded to ubuntu 13.04 and virutalbox doesnt work anymore.  any ideas?16:22
hedinisn't that what it's supposed to do?16:23
MonkeyDusthedin  try the super/windows key16:23
chilukurgodfather, if you don't see anything obvious you might want to unstall using a usb-ethernet adapter and then upgrade the kernel...16:23
hedinMonkeyDust: doen't work16:23
chilukyou might just have way too new revision of the card.16:24
hedinI'm currently using the radeon driver16:24
chilukurgodfather, s/unstall/install16:24
Seluthanever mind found it, not use to unity16:26
johnsmithvoiddd, sorry I can't find anything. I was having the same problem too the other day and I fixed it by reinstalling.  If you want, you can follow the instructions from this forum. ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87879416:27
voidddjohnsmith: thanks, i'll check it out. I have searched on askubuntu and ubuntuforums a lot too.16:28
hedinhmm... How do I set a shortcut to "dash home" on 12.04?16:28
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johnsmithhedin go to settings, then keyboard, and then shortcuts.16:29
ActionPa1sniparooni-mobile: can you expand on 'doesnt work'16:29
hedinjohnsmith: thanks :)16:29
chilukurgodfather what does "lspci | grep Centrin" give you for rev number16:30
chilukurgodfather, mine is rev 2416:30
ActionPa1snipchiluk: if you add the -i to grep you don't have to capitalize :)16:30
brian_petersenI created a upstart file (/etc/init/nodeup.conf) and this is its contents: http://pastie.org/7921198. How would I make the forever process start under a specific user? (e.g. deploy)16:30
urgodfatherchiluk: same16:31
chilukActionPa1snip, i know.16:31
Cyberspaceloavoiddd are you using hdmi audio?16:31
voidddCyberspaceloa: I'm using Intel HDA16:31
chilukurgodfather, man... I'm not sure.. if I were you I'd go and upgrade firmware drivers..16:31
chilukurgodfather, and if that doesn't work I'd try an install then upgrade the kernel16:32
hedinjohnsmith: I can't find any option for the Dash...16:32
chilukif you are seeing your access point, but not able to connect that is really odd... there were issues with that a while back16:32
roadfishI have 12.04 on one partition and 13.04 on another partition. Can I some how "start up" 13.04 while actually being booted into 12.04? For instance, could I do apt-get operations for the 13.04 install but actually be running 12.04? Or run an app installed on 13.04 while actually booted into 12.04.16:32
Cyberspaceloavoiddd, maybe you've seen this already, but here's a thread concerning a kernel update breaking hdmi audio in 13.04 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213630316:32
urgodfatherchiluk: how to upgrade firmware drivers?16:32
MonkeyDustroadfish  no, as the other is not running16:33
olivier_bKhi16:33
chilukurgodfather, but assuming you downloaded from here http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=desktop&bits=64&release=latest16:33
urgodfatherchiluk: on the 12.10, i have already sudo apt-get update && upgrade16:33
voidddCyberspaceloa: yes. I've seen this before, and I tried downgrading the kernel to 3.8.0-13 but that didn't help either16:33
roadfishMonkeyDust: ok, so tools like virtualbox can't be used to achieve this aim?16:33
MonkeyDustroadfish  no16:33
chilukurgodfather, wo .. you told me you were on 13.04 which is it?16:33
urgodfatheri'm livebooting right now to test this card. the system has 12.10 installed.16:34
Cyberspaceloavoiddd there's also the suggestion of using mainline kernel, but I couldn't personally help you with that16:34
urgodfatherchiluk: i'm livebooting right now to test this card. the system has 12.10 installed.16:35
chilukurgodfather, 12.10 works?16:35
voidddCyberspaceloa:  I will take a look on that. brb16:35
urgodfatherchiluk: in the 12.10 install, some of the networks arent found... in 13.04 they are but cannot connect to mine16:36
Cyberspaceloavoiddd, as always I recommend complete backups before trying anything crazy. Sorry I couldn't be a better help16:36
blzhow would i go about adding ~/.local/bin to my PATH?16:37
chilukurgodfather... well if you can risk blowing away the machine... I'd fully install the machine with 13.04 and then upgrade from there...16:37
voidddCyberspaceloa: I have tried the 3.9 kernel also, from the mainline build. But no luck still16:37
chilukurgodfather, or you can dist-upgrade from within 12.1016:37
urgodfatherhow to dist upgrade?16:37
urgodfatherthat would be easier16:37
chilukurgodfather, open update-manager and click "install new version of ubuntu" or something like that.16:38
voidddCyberspaceloa: Thanks for the help btw.16:40
SonikkuAmericachiluk: I wouldn't recommend that... the GUI keeps crashing. [ do-release-upgrade ] is better for a stable upgrade process.16:40
Cyberspaceloavioddd, no problem. I just have zero personal experience with hdmi audio. I'm still in the analog world16:41
chilukSonikkuAmerica, I wouldn't know... I tend to be on development releases and do fresh installs between releases.16:41
voidddCyberspaceloa: no problem. Do you think I could run a script that does alsa force-reload on system boot up?16:42
urgodfatherchiluk: oh yeah lol16:42
chilukurgodfather, check SonikkuAmerica's earlier comment16:42
WaltherUbuntu 13.04, fglrx-updates installed, two monitors - and I'm getting "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3600, 1080), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)" when trying to set up my dual-head16:42
urgodfatherchiluk: oh yeah lol16:42
Cyberspaceloavoiddd I was just about to recommend that16:42
Cyberspaceloavoiddd does that command require sudo privs to fix the sound?16:43
urgodfatherchiluk: i dont see it16:43
cimi1985hello, i'm installing ubuntu 10.04 in an old 2001 compaq presario...i'm a little worried because the installation is taking a long time....the pc has a 1.2 GHz processor and 512 MB RAM...is this normal?16:44
voidddCyberspaceloa: I have to try that then. Can you help me with another problem I'm experiencing? Ever since I've installed Ubuntu 13.04, it says Bluetooth adapter not found16:44
adamkWalther: You need to an xorg.conf file to specify a Virtual size.16:44
chilukurgodfather, he recommended running do-release-upgrade from a terminal instead16:44
voidddCyberspaceloa: yes. it needs sudo16:44
Waltheradamk: Usually that hasn't been necessary :/16:44
WaltherUsually just using the system settings has been enough16:45
Waltherfor the past a couple years16:45
adamkWalther: Well it is necessary when using dualhead with fglrx.16:45
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urgodfatherchiluk & SonikkuAmerica: do i sudo apt-get upgrade do-release-upgrade?16:46
chilukurgodfather, no just sudo do-release-upgrade16:46
urgodfatherchiluk: ok thanks16:46
cimi1985any ideas?16:46
Cyberspaceloavoiddd is your bluetooth adapter integrated or usb?16:46
chilukurgodfather, you can always check if a command exists by starting to type it and then hitting tab to auto-complete.16:47
adamkWalther: Alternatively, you can create a file under /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ with the necessary Screen section and Virtual size16:47
voidddCyberspaceloa: it is integrated ...  Broadcom Corp. BCM2046B1 USB 2.0 Hub (part of BCM2046 Bluetooth)16:47
urgodfatherchiluk: waiting for 12.10 to boot16:47
chilukurgodfather, hopefully it will just work, as for me I need to get back to what I get paid to do.16:49
chilukurgodfather, good luck man.16:49
urgodfatherchiluk: im gonna run the upgrade, will message you when i finish16:49
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Cyberspaceloavoiddd, again I have little experience with bluetooth16:51
AlemimioHey guys, I've got a little problem, If i'm running the following code 'nohup /home/radio/shoutcast/sc_serv /home/radio/shoutcast/sc_serv_basic.conf > /dev/null & echo $!' from the shell as root, it works, it returns the PID and i can see the proccess running, but when i run it from php's shell_exec command, i do get the PID, but when i check, the proccess isn't really running. it worked on a different server, but now it doesn't, a16:51
Alemimiony idea what my cause this?16:51
Cyberspaceloavoiddd: but I was able to find this question that has your exact card (and sound) issues as well16:51
Cyberspaceloavoiddd: http://askubuntu.com/questions/296703/ubuntu-13-04-audio-and-bluetooth-issue16:52
voidddCyberspaceloa: no problem. thanks for your help. I'll go check on running that script at boot16:52
Wolkechi16:52
ScuniziI just received an iPad .MOV from a friend.  What do I use to transcode that to something else that is recognized by G+ for posting?16:52
voidddCyberspaceloa: that post was made by me :)16:53
WolkecI've installed ati legacy drivers from the site i got here, but i still can't switch to different desktops16:53
Cyberspaceloavoiddd: lol. I was wondering if that might have been you16:53
WolkecHow can i reset my unity/reinstall16:53
WolkecIf that the case please consider resetting Unity configuration to default or use other DE.16:53
Wolkeci'd like to know how to do that16:53
voidddlol yea. Thanks anyways Cyberspaceloa . Off I go to run that script16:54
Cyberspaceloavoiddd: alright. I'll be curious to know if you find any solutions!16:54
kabadsOn my second install here of 13.04 and I'm getting grub rescue prompts - where might I be going wrong (dual boot laptop)16:54
urgodfatherchiluk: says no new release found16:54
SonikkuAmericaScunizi: Google+ doesn't recognize QuickTime?16:54
chiluksudo urgodfather sudo cat /etc/issue what does it say?16:55
kabadsand what is /dev/mmcblk0 ?16:55
kabadsshould I unmount /dev/mmcblk0 during the install?16:55
urgodfatherchiluk: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l16:56
chilukthen urgodfather you aren't running 12.10 or 13.04 at all.16:56
WolkecIS THERE anyone who can help me at all :<16:56
chilukurgodfather, what does uname -a say16:57
ScuniziSonikkuAmerica: actually it did upload and work.. I was uploading a batch of jpg's and one .mov and G+ complained on one of the files that it wasn't a video or pic.  I've since identified it. It's a jpg that might be malformed.16:57
urgodfatherchiluk: yeah, youre right, thats my mistake16:57
MonkeyDust!patience | Wolkec16:57
ubottuWolkec: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/16:57
SonikkuAmericaWolkec: [ sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity* ]16:57
chilukurgodfather,  now worries...16:57
chilukurgodfather, sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-raring     That will install the raring kernel, which should get your card squared away.16:58
Wolkec libcunit1-ncurses-dev : Conflicts: libcunit1-dev but 2.1-0.dfsg-10ubuntu1 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.16:58
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WolkecThe following packages have unmet dependencies:  libcunit1-ncurses : Conflicts: libcunit1 but 2.1-0.dfsg-10ubuntu1 is to be installed  libcunit1-ncurses-dev : Conflicts: libcunit1-dev but 2.1-0.dfsg-10ubuntu1 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.16:58
MonkeyDustWolkec  try sudo apt-get -f install16:58
chilukurgodfather, you might want to read http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-12-04-to-ubuntu-12-1016:58
Wolkecsame result :<16:59
chilukurgodfather, it's for 12.10, but you should be able to extrapolate it for 13.04 and forward16:59
SonikkuAmericaScunizi: Oh.16:59
urgodfatherchiluk: installing16:59
MonkeyDustWolkec  try dpkg --reconfigure16:59
chilukalso urgodfather after you install the raring backport kernel you will need to reboot.16:59
Wolkecroot@Wolk:~# dpkg --reconfigure dpkg: error: unknown option --reconfigure16:59
chilukurgodfather, if you have issues with that kernel, just select previous versions from the grub menu and select the older kernel.17:00
urgodfatherchiluk: if that doesnt work, then just sudo do-release-upgrade -d?17:00
chilukurgodfather, I wouldn't recommend that for you..17:00
chilukurgodfather, read that page I sent you.17:00
TiagoTTtry: dpkg-reconfigure17:01
chilukurgodfather, saucy is latest development and not for you...17:01
eooanyone here to help me17:01
eoowith mono17:01
Wolkec /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: please specify a package to reconfigure17:01
urgodfatherchiluk: saucy is... 13.10?17:02
TiagoTTyou have to pass the package name you want to reconfigure as first argument17:02
chilukurgodfather, yep.17:02
BluesKajWolkec,  sudo dpkg --configure -a17:02
chilukurgodfather, good luck... I'm going to get food now.17:02
eoocan someone help me with mono17:02
Wolkecok nothing happens17:02
Wolkecget same error as before17:02
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WolkecThe following packages have unmet dependencies:  libcunit1-ncurses : Conflicts: libcunit1 but 2.1-0.dfsg-10ubuntu1 is to be installed  libcunit1-ncurses-dev : Conflicts: libcunit1-dev but 2.1-0.dfsg-10ubuntu1 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.17:03
urgodfatherchiluk: less networks visible lol17:03
chilukeoo asking for help will get you nowhere... asking your question might get you somewhere.17:03
urgodfatherchiluk: im gonna upgrade to 12.1017:03
eoolol17:03
chilukurgodfather, you should upgrade to 13.0417:03
MonkeyDustWolkec  try booting in recovery mode and select Repair17:04
chilukurgodfather, the 6235 is much better supported there.17:04
eoowhen i run a certain windows app i get the following message:17:04
Wolkecok17:04
eoowine: Install Mono 2.8 or greater for Windows to run .NET 4.0 applications.17:04
urgodfatherchiluk: same method as going to 12.10?17:04
eooive installed mono from software-center17:04
chilukurgodfather, yep..17:04
chilukurgodfather, you're a smart man, you'll figure it out..17:04
chilukurgodfather, google is your friend too.17:04
cimi1985hello, i'm installing ubuntu 10.04 in an old 2001 compaq presario...i'm a little worried because the installation is taking a long time....the pc has a 1.2 GHz processor and 512 MB RAM...is this normal?17:04
gordonjcpcimi1985: that could take quite a long time17:05
g-mauriziHello #ubuntu, I could really use some help, I have been trying to get static nat working for 4 days now, my steps are ifconfig eth1:1 172.20.2.99 netmask 255.255.255.255 broadcast 172.20.2.255, and then iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -d 172.20.2.99 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.1.150.10, this just flat out doesn't seem to work.17:05
gordonjcpcimi1985: for that spec of machine you might want to look at Xubuntu17:05
gordonjcpcimi1985: or eBay, and get MOAR RAMS17:05
chilukgordonjcp++17:05
urgodfatherchiluk: looks like i gotta got to 12.10 first17:05
chilukurgodfather, probably not a bad idea..17:06
gordonjcpg-maurizi: have you enabled forwarding?17:06
eooInstall Mono 2.8 or greater for Windows to run .NET 4.0 applications.17:06
g-maurizigordonjcp forwarding is enabled in sysctl.conf yes17:06
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nitrox1Good day everyone!17:07
nitrox1Does anyone by any chance know to how create a unity launcher for a file?17:07
g-mauriziif I ssh 172.20.2.99 I ssh into the box im sitting at, instead of the request getting pushed via NAT to 10.1.150.10...17:08
WaltherWhat is the current way to purge / reset compiz's all configuration?17:09
Walthercompiz --reset has been deprecated17:09
mokauhow do you use cron.d with specific users?17:09
SwedeMikemokau: then you don't use cron.d, you use user-specific crontabs17:10
bazhangWalther, it was always compiz --replace17:10
voidddCyberspaceloa: added the "sudo alsa force-reload" in /etc/rc.local and sound works now. But boot up time hass increased, i think17:10
Waltherbazhang: *reset configuration*, not replace as a window manager17:10
mokauSwedeMike: looks like there is a user parameter between the schedule and command17:10
mokauthanks anyway17:10
WaltherDifferent things there.17:10
voidddCyberspaceloa: sorry, only "alsa force-reload"17:11
llutzmokau: just add the user name you want to run teh job as between times and command "0 * * * * username cmd"17:11
WaltherIt was a command something like gconf purge unitysomething, but i can't remember it and have no means of browsing the internet just not (i'm ssh+irccing from terminal here)17:11
Walther(and don't tell me to use elinks)17:11
mokaullutz: indeed, thanks17:11
bazhanghttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04   Walther17:11
Wolkeci'm back, how can i reset my unity now17:12
Waltherbazhang: Could you please paste the commands to me? :)17:12
WaltherI pretty much can't open links right now17:12
WaltherThanks a bunch!17:12
WolkecWhat's the commands to reinstall/reset unity17:12
bazhangInstall dconf-tools: Walther17:13
cimi1985gordonjcp, how much time? 3 hours?17:13
WolkecMonkeyDust here?17:13
bazhangdconf reset -f /org/compiz/   Walther17:13
g-maurizianyone? please? ;oX17:13
gordonjcpcimi1985: I'd be surprised if it was that long17:14
gordonjcpcimi1985: if the disk is still rattling away then it's probably okay ;-)17:14
Cyberspaceloavoiddd - good job. That sucks about the increased boot up time though17:14
Wolkechow can i reinstall unity?17:15
Cyberspaceloavoiddd - hopefully the problem will get addressed properly soon. I can't imagine you're the only one17:15
voidddCyberspaceloa:  Yes, I've seen multiple threads about the sound problem. Hopefully in the next few kernel updates17:15
bazhangWolkec, why not reset17:16
Wolkecreset?17:16
ampharosI'm having some problems with Intel graphics - I'm getting errors like [   24.177823] i915 0000:00:02.0: VGA-1: EDID block 0 invalid. and I can't go beyond 1024x76817:16
Wolkecreset what?17:16
eooany got this problem: Install Mono 2.8 or greater for Windows to run .NET 4.0 applications.17:16
Wolkeccan u give me the command to reset unity?17:16
bazhangWolkec, what do you hope to achieve by reinstalling unity17:16
WolkecI've installed legacy drivers17:17
bazhangWolkec, just a moment please17:17
Wolkecand now unity is fucked17:17
Wolkeci can't switch desktops17:17
bazhangno cursing here Wolkec17:17
Wolkecor well it's laggy17:17
Wolkecsorry17:17
Waltherbazhang: thanks - but it is not working. "Child process exited with code 1"17:17
FloodBot1Wolkec: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:17
bazhanghttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04   Wolkec17:17
Wolkectryed17:17
Wolkecit doesn't work17:18
ampharosi'm googling but I'm only really getting radeon results17:18
bazhang!work | Wolkec17:18
ubottuWolkec: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.17:18
adamkWolkec: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.17:18
SJrI have a laptop that during an ubuntu upgrade that went horribly wrong the partition table got horribly corrupted. testdisk has recovered at least one partition and fsck gives it a clean bill of health. SHould I copy all the files off the partition, and then wipe the drive and start from scratch or is the current partition structure probably fine?17:18
adamkWolkec: Did unity work fine with the open source drivers that came with Ubuntu?17:18
bazhangSJr, why take chances17:19
wilee-nileeSJr, What can you afford to risk?17:19
SJrIt's not my laptop :)17:19
SJrhmmmm so copy everything off it, and back on17:19
cimi1985gordonjcp, the screen says ubuntu whit the five dots changin from white to orange, the cd was expulsed, so there is no visible anomaly, except the time...17:20
IsmAvatarhey guys. I just did (another17:20
IsmAvataroops17:20
IsmAvatarhey guys. I just did (another) fresh install of 13.04 and after the login screen, it just freezes except the mouse. I can see unity, but the gray bar at the top is empty, and I can't click anything.17:21
bazz_Hi! Did you know, is some solution for install skype to ubuntu 13.04 ?17:23
bazhang!info skype partner | bazz_17:24
ubottubazz_: skype (source: skype): client for Skype VOIP and instant messaging service. In component main, is extra. Version 4.1.0.20.0-0ubuntu0.13.04.2 (partner), package size 15 kB, installed size 61 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)17:24
bazhangbazz_, enable the partner repo, install from there17:24
bazz_bazhang, it says "skype : Depends: skype-bin but it is not installable"17:25
bazhangbazz_, after you enabled the partner repo, di d you sudo apt-get update17:26
bazz_yes17:26
bazhangbazz_, please paste.ubuntu.com your /etc/apt/sources.list17:26
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Pargerushello?17:29
n-iCe?17:29
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Pargerusso this is basically the real time ubuntu help centre? :)17:30
bazz_bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5674702/17:30
MonkeyDustPargerus  yes17:30
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bazhangbazz_, and please paste.ubuntu.com the output of sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade17:32
bazhangbazz_, what does apt-cache search skype    show once that is done17:32
Pargeruswhoa, i had a problem after upgrading my system to 13.04. I lost the internet connection and when I went to system settings-network, it said the system network services are not compatible with this version...but, it has somehow started to work again, so I guess i dont have any questions anymore :D17:33
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asahI don't wanna stir the waters, but, what is a good distro to go to leaving Ubuntu?  I'm not happy with the direction of Ubuntu but like(ed) the distro itself LTS10 and earlier17:35
asahthinking about straight up debian, or mint, or arch17:35
bazhang!ot | asah17:35
ubottuasah: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:35
asahoh I thought this was ubuntu-unregged and this was the offtopic equivalent17:35
asahlooks like theres more channels than I thought17:36
asahthanks, going there17:36
bazz_bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5674721/17:36
bazhangbazz_, the out put from sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade to a pastebin please17:37
blzI'm trying to change my default shell to fish.  `/usr/local/bin/fish` is in `/etc/shells` but when I run `chsh -s /usr/local/bin/fish`, I get "You may not change the shell for <user>".  What gives?17:38
Ari-Yangso if I happen to get a windows virus and I have W.I.N.E. installed, it really shouldn't do any damage, right?17:38
Ari-Yangbecause the C:/ drive is virtual etc.17:38
bazhangAri-Yang, ask in #winehq17:38
Ari-Yangoh17:38
llutzblz: why is it in /usr/local/bin, haven't you isntalled it using apt-get?17:39
blzllutz, I compiled from source.  The version in the repository is old and no longer maintained17:39
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sungate_hi, I'm trying to change ownership of a directory, can anyone help me out?17:41
n-iCesungate_: hi17:42
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n-iCesungate_: chmod {options} filename17:42
AndChat308009Sungate_ use chown17:42
n-iCehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions17:42
sungate_ok thank you17:42
n-iCehttp://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-use-chmod-and-chown-command/17:42
llutzblz: works fine here on 13.04 with the deb from fishshell.com17:44
blzllutz, well I've managed to much a bunch of things up, actually...  I could really use some help17:44
blzFor instance, I accidentally ran sudo chsh -s instead of chsh -s17:45
blzand this was for a previous build in .local/bin/fish, which is now nonexistant17:45
blzso now root can't launch a shell =/17:45
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blzllutz, any idea how to unfsck that?17:45
llutzblz: sudo chsh -s /bin/bash17:45
blzllutz, I tried that, but i get a PAM error17:46
blzllutz, presumably because root can't run its shell (?)17:46
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llutzblz: you cannot use sudo anymore at all?17:46
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blzllutz, similarly, sudo su yields "cannot execute /home/<user>/.local/bin/fish"17:47
blzwhich makes sense since there's no such file or directory17:47
llutzblz: sudo -s17:47
blzllutz, no sudo works17:47
blzllutz, just sudo -s?17:47
blznothing else?17:47
llutzblz: to get a non-login root shell17:48
blzllutz, sudo -s gives me " /usr/bin/fish:  command not found"  It should be /usr/local/bin17:48
blzhence *that* failure... like I said, I screwed a couple of thing sup =/17:48
upomochi what USB wifi works best?17:48
blzllutz, although sudo /bin/bash works...17:48
llutzblz: so if you have a root-shell, change your login shell to a valid one17:49
diverdudeWhen will mysql 5.6 be available in the ubuntu repo? (precise pangolin)17:49
diverdude12.0417:49
blzllutz, I just tried that.  I as root, I did `chsh -s /usr/local/bin/fish` but I still get "chsh:  PAM:  Authentication failure"17:50
elisa87How can I change these two lines which are for ALPHA ISA to X86 ISA in my Makefile? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5674754/17:50
bazz_bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5674762/17:50
frodo_jebhi, is it true that linux deamon are just a normale linux programme added to it a script that lanch it at boot time rc0 rc1 ... rc617:50
bazz_after update && upgrade, skype still can't install17:50
blzllutz, is there a file in which the default shell for a user is stored?17:50
blzllutz, I think it might be easiest to manually change that17:51
bazz_blz, /etc/passwd17:51
llutzblz: vipw /etc/passwd17:51
blzllutz, why vipw instead of nano?17:51
llutzblz: "vipw -s "   to eit  /etc/passwd   sry17:51
Codifybn nhjmk,lyu17:52
bazz_just vipw is better, as i remember :) it changes also shadow ..17:52
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thomasdASTICSEARCH17:53
bazz_frodo_jeb, in general, daemon is a program, which running all time, so, yes it's a normal linux program, without gui17:53
blzllutz, moment of truth ^^17:53
blzllutz, lookin' good!  Thank you!17:54
blzand thanks, bazz_ !17:54
blzI can always count on #ubuntu to unscrew my screwups =)17:56
llutzblz: time to avoid the screwups17:56
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blzllutz, yeah but I learn so much from them =/17:56
blzno joke!17:56
llutzblz: learning by typing in commands given here?17:57
blzllutz, Learning why things broke and why the fixes work17:57
blzllutz, and having backups helps ;-)17:58
llutzblz: time to learn the step between: how to find a fix yourself :)17:58
blzllutz, yeah that would be nice =)17:58
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IsmAvatarCould anyone help me fix my fresh 13.04 install so I can get past the login screen without the whole desktop locking up >_>18:01
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sunshine__I have a question about configuring TCP/IP, anyone care to help?18:02
bazz_sunshine__, what a question ?18:02
WolkecHello i'm back18:05
utfans05whats your question sunshine__18:05
WolkecI've installed legacy drivers after updating ubuntu to 13.04 and now i don't see any unity18:05
WolkecThere's just background18:06
IsmAvatarThat sounds like a boon, not a bane :-p18:06
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Wolkec_Okay, i've reset unity settings18:10
Wolkec_and now it works18:10
Wolkec_but18:10
Wolkec_i can't switch to other windows?18:10
tacomasterHello everyone :D18:10
WaltherRunning 13.04 with fglrx, dual-head. Lightdm shows up ~okay, but when logging in, no unity is present. Trying to unity --replace --debug results in "/usr/bin/compiz (core) - Fatal: No composite extension18:10
Wolkec_control + alt + left/right doesn't work18:11
urgodfatherok guys, im in trouble. I ran the upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10.. all went smoothly, rebooted, now i get a solid cursor after the ubuntu splash screen18:11
Guest68334Hello18:11
schmowardQuick question for whoever can help. I have a dell 1012 netbook with a n450 atom processor and 2gb of ram. It came with 32 bit windows xp. Should I install 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu?18:11
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Wolkec_64 bit is for over 4 gigs of ram afaik18:12
llutzschmoward: both will run, go with 64bit18:12
elisa87What are the equivalent names of these ALPHA libraries in X86 ISA?  "libgomp.so.1"  "ld-linux.so.2"  "libc-2.6.1.so" "libpthread-2.6.1.so"18:12
urgodfatherchiluk: you still eating lunch?18:14
bazz_have someone skype, running on ubuntu 13.04 64 bit ?)18:14
Wolkec_i have skype18:14
Wolkec_and it works for me18:14
chilukurgodfather, never got that far.18:14
bazz_how you were install it ?)18:14
urgodfatherchiluk: that sucks18:14
Wolkec_i had it from 12.1018:14
Wolkec_just install normally?18:14
Wolkec_get it from web page18:14
chilukurgodfather, how are you getting along?18:15
urgodfatherchiluk: so, i ran the update... everything went smoothly. did the reboot, and it hangs after plymouth (splash screen)18:15
Wolkec_Can someone help me with my problem?18:15
bazz_Wolkec_, it doen't install nor from skype site, nor from apt-get18:15
urgodfatherWolkec_: ubbotu | anyone!18:15
elisa87Where is lpthread located?18:15
Wolkec_bazz_ http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/18:15
urgodfatherWolkec_: ubotu | anyone!18:15
k1l_!anyone | urgodfather Wolkec_18:16
ubottuurgodfather Wolkec_: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.18:16
schmowardllutz, what are the advantages of 64 over 32 bit? Any disadvantages?18:16
chilukurgodfather, did you have any sort of special video drivers installed?  and after what upgrade did this happen.18:16
Wolkec_urgodfather When i press alt+shift + left/right it doesn't switch screens18:16
urgodfatherk1l_: thanks for fixing my typo lol18:16
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Wolkec_or control + alt18:16
Wolkec_or any combination18:16
llutzschmoward: no disadvantages, if hardware supports 64, use it. (my opinion)18:16
AndChat308009!poll18:16
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.18:16
urgodfatherWolkec_: its control and alt18:16
Wolkec_doesn't work :<18:16
k1l_Wolkec_: look into unity-tweak-tool if you have more than 1 screen enabled18:17
urgodfatherchiluk: not that im aware of18:17
Wolkec_huh18:17
Wolkec_it worked fine in 12.1018:17
Wolkec_now i had to reset unity settings18:17
Wolkec_and it's not working18:17
chilukurgodfather, do you know what graphics card or cards is in the machine.18:17
IsmAvatarschmoward: some older software only works on 32-bit. That's one of the only reasons you'd want to stick with 32-bit.18:18
llutzIsmAvatar: ubuntu has multiarch-support, no problem to run 32bit soft18:18
IsmAvatarI believe Flash had that problem for a little while, but I haven't heard of it anymore so I'd assume it's since been fixed.18:19
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robin_i feel like gnome 3.8 is slower than unity18:19
Wolkec_Where can i see how much free space my disks have?18:19
urgodfatherchiluk: i dont, but i can find out... i just did a failsafex with no luck and am doing the dpkg right now18:19
bazz_schmoward: my opinion - if you haven't plans to upgrade up to 4Gb - install 32 bit, else install 64bit.18:20
IsmAvatarWolkec_: from dash, access the System Monitor18:20
Wolkec_thx18:20
IsmAvatarnp18:20
urgodfatherchiluk: how to boot into verbose (no splash)18:20
robin_is there a way to disable the password i've set i need to type in before linux actually starts or do i have to reinstall my pc?18:20
dillurobin, you don't have to reinstall18:21
dimitri_bHello everybody, does anybody have experience with mojo installer files in (k)ubuntu?? As far as I understand, one should simply execute this installer file... but Kubuntu doesn't start it, also bash says "bash: ./setup.bin: No such file or directory" although the file is definitely there (of course the +x flag is set)18:21
robin_do you know how to disable it?18:21
wilee-nileerobin_, what is your goal here overall?18:22
Psycho_prI have a question about the Windows installer: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-with-windows If today I have two distinct Windows XP installations (one in English and one in Russian) and when I boot up, I can choose between the English and Russian installation, will I be able, after installing the Ubutnu Windows Installer, to select between English/Russian and Linux?18:22
dilluusing ubuntu 12.04?18:22
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IsmAvatarrobin_: start with going to Dash -> User Accounts18:22
robin_my goal is to get rid of my damn password without reinstalling my pc18:22
dilluokay18:23
robin_14.0418:23
robin_13.04 srry18:23
dilluin that case go to user accounts18:23
dilluand disable password on startup18:23
wilee-nileerobin_, That s not supported here.18:23
robin_no its not the ubuntu login pass18:23
chilukurgodfather, when grub loads edit the kernel command line and remove the quiet option at the end of the kernel line18:23
chilukurgodfather, you should also be able to hit tab or up down or something like that to get more verbose18:24
robin_it is the one i have to type before linux starts18:24
dillubefore linux starts as in?18:24
llutzrobin_: have you set a grub-password or a bios-password?18:24
Wolkec_YAY18:24
robin_after boot18:24
chilukurgodfather you can also log in to using ctrl+alt+f1  to get access to the virtual terminals18:24
Wolkec_worked18:24
Wolkec_thanks18:24
Wolkec_cya18:24
FloodBot1Wolkec_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:25
dilluokay18:25
robin_between ubuntu login and bios18:25
dilluthat is a grub password18:25
robin_ooh, didnt know that18:25
robin_made an mistake with installing ubuntu a time ago, and its starting to irritate me;)18:25
robin_thought it was the ubuntu login pass18:26
Fazer2hey, I upgraded packages with PPA, but now I want to downgrade to the official versions; I already removed PPA from software sources18:26
urgodfatherchiluk: virtual terminal access via recovery mode?\18:26
robin_PPA purge doesnt work?18:26
diverdudei have been doing sudo apt-get remove mysql-server-5.5 several times and it keeps reappearing.  why cant i remove it?18:27
robin_Fazer2 does PPA purge not work?18:27
wilee-nileeFazer2, there is a ppa for removing PPA's and downgrading18:27
chilukurgodfather, naw... as long as the machine is booting you can usually access virtual terminals even if X isn't starting.18:27
robin_yes it is called PPA purge18:27
elisa87can I define X86_LIB in my Makefile like this? X86_LIB = /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgomp.so.1 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 /mnt/tmp/lib64/libc-2.6.1.so /mnt/tmp/lib64/libpthread-2.6.1.so18:27
IsmAvatarI did a fresh 13.04 install. When i log in, the desktop locks up. Unity is visible but unresponsive. Mouse moves but can't click.18:28
robin_sudo apt-get install ppa-purge18:28
juhqaHi, problem with my raring installation. I'm using Acer Aspire 4736z. Brightness control and mouse don't work. Any fix?18:29
urgodfatherchiluk: ctrl + alt +f1 no dice18:29
Fazer2robin_, wilee-nilee: thanks18:29
diverdudei have been doing sudo apt-get remove mysql-server-5.5 several times and it keeps reappearing.  why cant i remove it?18:29
robin_Fazer2 Y W  ;)18:30
juhqaPlease help ;(18:30
logix_hi guys18:30
llutzdiverdude: have you installed the meta-package "mysql-server" too? remove it18:30
diverdudellutz, what is a meta package?18:30
robin_Does any1 know how to disable my grub password without reinstalling ubuntu?18:30
IsmAvatara meta package is a package that redirects to another package (or set of packages)18:31
chilukurgodfather, you know at this point if I were you I would just do a fresh in stall using the 13.04 install.. and just upgrade packages once it's installed.18:31
llutzdiverdude: "These packages do not contain actual software, they simply depend on other packages to be installed. .."18:31
chilukwipe it clean and start from new.18:31
urgodfatherchiluk: can i upgrade using disk?18:32
diverdudellutz, hmm ok. it says this: "Package mysql-server-5.5 is not installed, so not removed"18:32
diverdudellutz, but it pops up on auto complete anyway18:32
chilukI wouldn't upgrade.. I would format your disk using your live usb key or dvd or whatever you have that has 13.04 on it, and start fresh.18:32
chilukurgodfather, doesn't have to be your whole disk... but at least your ubuntu partitions.18:33
WaltherRunning ubuntu 13.04 and fglrx, my second monitor is white and the cursor is the big black X. However, a right-click will bring up a context menu, but then again, i can't move any windows to the other monitor area18:36
Walther2~18:37
Psycho_prHello?18:37
diverdudellutz, ?18:38
llutzdiverdude: dpkg -l mysql-ser*18:38
kruxWalther, try holding ALT down and dragging ?..18:40
Waltherkrux: No, it's not that kind of an issue18:40
Waltherkrux: Read the rest of the description as well; there's something "bigger" wrong18:41
diverdudellutz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5674908/18:42
WaltherThere's no background, the possible windows that appear on the second monitor have no borders / no bars / nothing except the content, and system settings doesn't show the second monitor at all18:42
superdohi, upgrading to 13.04 from 12.10 keeps my apps and settings?18:42
llutzdiverdude: so none of the mysql-server packages are installed, just some configs left. what is your problem?18:42
MonkeyDustsuperdo  how are you upgrading?18:42
superdousing the ubuntu upgrade popup18:43
MonkeyDustsuperdo  sounds good, though i wonder where the popup came from18:44
superdoeg. update-manager -d18:44
diverdudellutz, how do i get rid of the configs ? and why does mysql-server-5.5 popping up when i autocomplete apt-get remove mysql-ser[TAB]18:44
superdoor periodically pops up with updates18:45
MonkeyDustsuperdo  sounds good18:45
llutzdiverdude: "sudo aptitude purge '~c'    ", no idea why that still pops up.18:46
superdotbh my 12.10 is very crappy so give a chance to 13. At workplace installed 13.04 and runs flawlessly18:46
diverdudellutz, it must be an ubuntu bug18:46
diverdudethen18:47
IsmAvatarI installed 13.04 and it doesn't work v_v Trying to rollback to 12.10 right now until I can get some help with my freezing on login issue.18:47
superdoMonkeyDust, sounds good means my apps remain (expect incompatible ones) ?18:47
castroisto e em portugues ?18:47
MonkeyDust!pt18:48
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.18:48
IsmAvatarsuperdo: yes, upgrading will always keep your compatible apps, and will alert you to incompatible ones.18:48
superdothx18:48
castroq progama o ubuntu me ofereçe tipo o ares galaxy do windows18:48
castro?18:49
superdogalaxy warriors destroy windows?? goood :)18:49
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kilroyubuntu-de18:52
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netlarAre there any problems with Cinnamon 1.8 and gnome 3.6.2?18:56
savionetlar: I guess no18:57
netlarsavio: you running cinnamon?18:57
savioWhy? Do you facing any issues18:57
savionetlar: no I'm not18:58
netlarsavio: I am using Unity now18:58
savioMe too18:58
MonkeyDustnetlar  install cinnamon and try it18:58
Ari-Yang^ one way to do it18:58
netlarMonkeyDust: I just read a few posts that say it may break your system18:58
Ari-Yang=/18:59
MonkeyDust!info cinnamon18:59
ubottucinnamon (source: cinnamon): Innovative and comfortable desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.4-1 (raring), package size 607 kB, installed size 2460 kB18:59
MonkeyDustnetlar  the internet is full of complaining people18:59
netlarMonkeyDust: and I can go right back to Unity?18:59
savionetlar:  try it and see for yourself18:59
MonkeyDustnetlar  logout, change, login19:00
netlarMonkeyDust: How do you change between the two19:00
MonkeyDustnetlar  in the lightdm menu, the ubuntu symbol19:00
MonkeyDustor is it a gnome symbol19:01
Ari-Yangthe ubuntu logo in the 'login' box, you click it19:01
Ari-Yangwhatever symbol19:01
netlarok thanks19:01
MonkeyDusti'm now installing kde, want to know if i like it19:01
netlarI do not actually like kde that much19:02
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madpropswhy?19:02
madpropskde is the best de ever19:02
netlarmadprops: reminds me of windows too much19:02
madpropsit has a peanut to change your desktop widgets whenever you need to19:02
Ari-Yangin your opinion, madprops.19:02
Ari-Yangit being the "best DE ever" is not a fact.19:03
Ari-Yangmy current DE I'm using is E1719:03
madpropse17 has nothing on katie-e19:03
Ari-Yangmadprops, this isn't a competition.19:04
Ari-Yangpeople prefer diff DEs.19:04
madpropsbut you're wrong19:04
JoeyJoeJoWhat package would I need to install to get the rfcomm module?19:04
Ari-YangDEs don't have "nothing" on each other.19:04
madpropsclearly you know nothing about computers go back to windows19:05
Ari-Yanglol troll19:05
Ari-Yangk, I'm done.19:05
llutzmadprops: stop that "mine is longer" please19:05
madprops;)19:06
Ari-Yangbtw madprops, there is nothing wrong with somebody going back to windows.19:06
madpropswhy do you hate your freedom?19:06
llutz!ot | madprops19:06
ubottumadprops: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:06
tmancan this heatsink run outside of a case? http://www.ebay.com/itm/140938113279?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l264919:07
llutztman: ask in #hardware19:07
tmanoh ok.19:07
obituaryhello19:08
baldfatMonkeyDust: KDE is great but KDE Ubuntu default settings are very disappointing and than I have the issue that Unity will switch to Qt toolkit items19:08
baldfatKDE > Gnome < Tiled Window Managers < Anything else > Gnome19:09
JoeyJoeJoIf I build a kernel and some modules on one machine how can pack it all up into a deb file for another machine?19:09
madpropsbaldfat: that makes no sense19:10
baldfatmadprops: OK Trool easier for you | KDE Greater than Gnome Tiled WM better than Gnome and better than Anything else and Gnome is the worst :)19:11
baldfatI could redo the regex19:11
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madpropsit doesn't say that19:13
deadweaseltrying to make a bootable us from file.img in 12.04 x64..  but I'm not sure how to identify which drive is which for the "sudo dd if=/media/DATA/bamt_v0.5c.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1M"19:13
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ZiberI have a supermicro server, but it won't boot because it can't detect the memory (a single 8gb ECC unbuffered stick). Can servers boot with a single stick? Will buying a second one fix it?19:14
compdocZiber, are you saying ubuntu cant detect the ram, or the server itself? Has it ever worked?19:16
deadweaselthe answer to my question is Dash > disk utility19:16
deadweasel:)19:16
compdoc disk utility is great19:16
mdfeZiber, bios and post come before the operating system is loaded. if they don't see the ram, the problem is not software19:17
Zibercompdoc: The server itself - it hasn't yet properly booted. This isn't an ubuntu question, per se. I just didn't know where else I might ask this.19:17
compdocZiber, ##hardware19:17
ZiberOh, okay. Thanks.19:18
MonkWitDaFunkHi users of ubuntu channel, i am trying to burn my first bootable disk using basero disk burner. The program will not let me burn the iso format to disc at this time19:18
g-maurizihi #ubuntu, I REALLY need some help I have been trying to get iptables 1 to 1 NAT working for a week, I have enabled IP forwarding and done 01). ifconfig eth1:1 172.20.2.99 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 172.20.2.255, 02). iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -d 172.20.2.99 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.1.150.20, 03). iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -s 10.1.150.20 -j SNAT --to-source 172.20.2.99, I can19:20
g-mauriziping both 10.1.150.20 & 172.20.2.99, if I try to ssh 172.20.2.99 I end up ssh'ing into the box I'm at not the box living at 10.1.150.20.19:20
MonkeyDustMonkWitDaFunk  is the disk large enough? is it writable?19:20
blob4000hey all. i have an Asus UX31E laptop here, and during the Ubuntu installer i have Wifi and touchpad working, but when I boot up after installing, neither works. What's going on here?19:21
MonkWitDaFunkYeah, i tried inserting a blank dvd and it did not allow me to burn19:21
obituaryHow do i download this video?19:22
obituaryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RME5o36I29Y19:22
MonkeyDustobituary  minitube19:22
obituarysoftware19:22
obituary?19:23
obituarytq MonkeyDust19:23
llutz!info youtube-dl | obituary19:23
ubottuobituary: youtube-dl (source: youtube-dl): downloader of videos from YouTube and other sites. In component universe, is extra. Version 2012.09.27+dfsg1-1 (raring), package size 49 kB, installed size 90 kB19:23
MonkeyDust!info minitube | obituary if you prefer a gui19:23
ubottuobituary if you prefer a gui: minitube (source: minitube): Native YouTube client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9-1 (raring), package size 653 kB, installed size 1824 kB19:24
obituaryohh thanks19:24
obituaryi will try19:24
MonkeyDustobituary  btw: seen obituary live19:24
zeinwhy my ubuntu 10.04 doesn't show any broadband network usb modem ?19:24
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g-maurizipretty please?19:25
MonkeyDustzein  instead of struggling with 10.04, upgrade to something more recent19:25
MonkeyDust!10.0419:25
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu.  Desktop support ended May 9 2013. Server support continues. See http://ubottu.com/y/lucid for more details.19:25
zeinOk thanks19:25
troulouliou_devhi how can i replace mutter by muffin ?19:26
troulouliou_devin 13.0419:26
tacomasterI have ubuntu 13.04 on kernel 3.8.0-21 and everytime i open ubuntu software center my computer screen goes black for a few seconds then i end up having to log in again because it logged me out. I have had this happen to be over 6 times in a row. any ideas?19:26
zeincan ubuntu 13.04 change to classic desktop ?19:27
MonkeyDustzein  yes, it'z called !fallback, looks like gnome2, but it's gnome319:28
troulouliou_devzein, cinnamon is officialy in the repo now too19:28
zeinOk monkeyDust thaks for info i will try latter :)19:28
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zeinwhat is chinnamon ?19:28
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tacomasterzein:  the desktop environment that is used in linux mint19:29
troulouliou_devzein, a gnome3 fork that looks like gnome-panel19:29
zeinOk i see19:29
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upomoccan somone help me whit ralink 3070 wireles19:30
kvothetechupomoc: what about it19:31
g-mauriziI really need help getting 1:1 nat working. I have enabled IP forwarding and done 01). ifconfig eth1:1 172.20.2.99 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 172.20.2.255, 02). iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -d 172.20.2.99 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.1.150.20, 03). iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -s 10.1.150.20 -j SNAT --to-source 172.20.2.99, I can ping both 10.1.150.20 & 172.20.2.99, if I try to ssh19:31
g-maurizi172.20.2.99 I end up ssh'ing into the box I'm at not the box living at 10.1.150.20, help, please?19:31
upomockvothetech:  i cant connetc to wifi  it ask for password again and again i think it hes somthing to do whit wpa supplicate19:32
everestt What does it mean when the sound doesn't work for a particular user account but works for all other user account? (Backstory: installed kernel 3.9.2-pf, enabled hibernation... sound stopped working... so disabled hibernation and went back to kernel 3.8.x ...sound doesn't work for me... but works if I log into the guest account) ... what's happening??19:32
kvothetecheverestt: are you using console-kit or ?19:33
netlarDoes linux mint have a channel?19:33
llutz!mint19:33
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org19:33
kvothetecheverestt: either have all users in the audio group or none..19:33
g-mauriziis their a more specific channel for linux specific/iptables support?19:33
everesttkvothetech, I don't think so... I don't even know what console-kit is.19:33
muculushttp://askubuntu.com/questions/296764/mysql5-6-and-problem-of-php5-mysql-mysql-common-packages19:33
zeinare there some cdma phone unlocker tool in ubuntu ?19:33
everesttkvothetech, oh I also removed my user from the audio group!19:33
bazhang#netfilter g-maurizi19:34
everesttkvothetech, let me put me back on the group19:34
g-maurizithank god, and thank you!19:34
kvothetechzein: depends on your phone...theres no generic unlocker19:34
upomockvothetech:  i cant connetc to wifi  it ask for password again and again i think it hes somthing to do whit wpa supplicate19:34
zeinmmhh ok <kvothetech>19:34
kvothetechupomoc: i saw your answer...what makes you think that19:34
kvothetechzein: what you have and xda-developers..do i have to say more19:34
everesttkvothetech, brb19:35
kvothetechupomoc: what have you tried19:35
upomockvothetech: w8 a sec19:35
zeinkvothetech : Samsung R455C Prepaid xda-developer forum?19:38
upomockvothetech:  beacuse i think it worked 1 time even it just give error after this command but it worked bad and after a litle time it stopet again  "wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf" , e am reserching last 2 days like tard, and as i nov my ralink3070 usb shoud have nativ wpa suplicant and i read on web thet if you cant connect to wpa encripted and it asks for password again and again it hes somthing to do whit dr19:39
everesttkvothetech, it works! but turns out I was playing sound through 'Digital Output' instead of the 'Speakers'! :P19:39
kvothetecheverestt: lol i'd assumed you'd checked that19:39
everesttkvothetech, that's usually the first thing I check... but I somehow missed it.. silly me :)19:40
everesttkvothetech, I'm still scared to try the 2.9.x kernel with hibernation! :))19:40
kvothetechwhy the hel are you on 2.919:41
kvothetechone the kernel went from 2.6 to 3 so there is no 2.9 2....that was 6 years ago?19:41
everesttkvothetech,  webupd8 says it increases the os performance on desktops and laptops19:41
everesttkvothetech, just wanted to see for myself19:42
llutzeverestt: 3.9 you mean19:42
aeLiXihrbonsoir19:42
everesttkvothetech, llutz yeah I mean 3.9 :P19:42
kvothetecher kk that makes more sense i'm on 3.9.2 have been for the last week or two...seems fie19:43
upomockvothetech:  so can you help me?19:43
everesttkvothetech, mine is (was) 3.9.2-pf ... http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/get-better-linux-desktop-performance.html19:44
aeLiXihri have a problem deleting a .trash folder on an external HD19:45
aeLiXihrError when getting information for file '/media/USB-HDD/.Trash-1000/files/weg/data_van_oNNo/oNNo/Mis imágenes/oNNo': Input/output error19:45
everesttkvothetech, is there a ppa for the 3.9.2 kernel? I'm still new on the kernel front19:45
upomockvothetech:  i even try to build new driver but i get  error 137 i think19:45
aeLiXihrError removing file: Read-only file system19:46
kvothetecheverestt: i don't know i'm from gentoo i compile my own kernels19:46
kvothetechupomoc: uhm error 137 with what around i19:46
kvothetechaeLiXihr: mount it as rw19:46
everesttkvothetech, lol... i'd like to do that someday :P19:46
aeLiXihrif i do a: sudo rm -fr /media/USB-HDD/.Trash-1000 i get: rm: cannot remove `/media/USB-HDD/.Trash-1000/files/Recycled/Df30.me/Thumbs.db': Read-only file system19:47
kvothetechaeLiXihr: mount -o remount,rw /media/USB-HDd19:47
everesttkvothetech, how long does it take to compile the kernel?19:47
aeLiXihrkvothetech: is mounted as such19:47
kvothetechaeLiXihr: is it ntfs19:47
aeLiXihryes it is19:47
kvothetecheverestt: depends on hardware and what you put in...19:47
kvothetechaeLiXihr: install ntfs-3g then remount it19:48
kvothetecheverestt: takes me about 8 minutes on an i5 usually19:48
aeLiXihrkvothetech: thank you i will try now19:48
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everesttkvothetech,  is the performance gain of compiling your own kernel significant enough? Is 'significant' a too vague word to use here??19:49
everestt*too vague a word :))19:50
neekz0ryou'd only want to compile your own kernel under very specific circumstances19:50
neekz0ror unless you just want to learn19:50
everesttneekz0r, what kind of specific circumstances?19:50
kvothetecheverestt: in gentoo you HAVE to...and performance gain..not much...unless you want it to be performance based and then it depends what you're doing what you'd change for performance19:51
neekz0rback in the day, it made more sense when your processor was 200Mhrz, and every hertz counted19:51
aeLiXihrkvothetech: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g that is, right?19:51
kvothetechaeLiXihr: idk ubuntu might call it something else but thats generally the package name yeah19:51
upomocf this what usb wifi works out of the box on ubuntu?19:52
neekz0reverestt: if you are building for a specific platform and know what drivers you want to include (and exclude) in addition to knowing exactly what you want to do with it19:52
urgodfatherchiluk: man this thing just keeps getting worse. now, no wifi support, no touchpad support, etc. lol19:52
kvothetechneekz0r: i think the best advantage is you can throw n EVERYTHING ou need..and not need an initramfs or any modules it can all be built in19:52
neekz0rIE: if you are making some sort of  linux based router that is using specific hardware and you know you won't ever need wifi, ext4 and etc19:53
kvothetechurgodfather: ?19:53
everesttneekz0r, kvothetech ...like if I want to use a computer for a file server then I compile the kernel without sound drivers?19:53
everestt*as a19:53
chilukurgodfather, man you are just having no luck...did you clean install 13.04 yet?19:53
neekz0reverestt: nah, i'd stick with with the default kernel, you aren't going to get much gain for just a file server19:53
kvothetechupomoc: you'd have more luck tellin us what you tried didn't try exact chipset wat drivers you're using what the hell error 137 is ec19:53
aeLiXihrkvothetech: ntfs-3g is already the newest version.19:53
neekz0rkvothetech: that is true too19:53
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kvothetechneekz0r: though it took me about 10 trys before i didn't forget anything i needed :)19:54
urgodfatherchiluk: no, upgrade. called the customer, im gonna do a clean install now19:55
neekz0rkvothetech: been there too, it's kinda frustrating.. or when you forget to update your bootloader :P19:55
everesttneekz0r, kvothetech ...I just want to know a use case where compiling your own kernel is worth it? ...maybe it's interesting for kernel hackers only??19:55
kvothetechneekz0r: lol yeah then you're stuck with hmm i'm ...not using it god @#$@#$ need to restart19:55
urgodfatherchiluk: from liveboot, just "erase and reinstall ubuntu"?19:56
chilukurgodfather, you might consider saving off the customer's home dir first..19:56
upomockvothetech:  look i am try to make this work last 10 days, i am using ralink 3070 usb  and on ZorinOS it works normal (and zorin is just a ubuntu clone) it uses rt2800usb driver and when i boot ubuntu it uses same driver but just cant connect19:56
llutzeverestt: its not worth the time you need to spend. except for learning maybe, the benefits on an average system are minimal19:56
kvothetecheverestt: game servers, embedded systems, not wanting initramfs/modules like i said, just because you can.19:56
chilukurgodfather, just don't screw up which partition you install to.19:57
urgodfatherchiluk: they said they dont have anything needed to be backed up19:57
chilukurgodfather, that would meak them really angry19:57
neekz0reverestt: to better understand, think of what a linux router would use; the two nics, iptables, mb drivers, etc. everything else is cruft... so to decrease the cost of hardware, you'd want to custom compile your kernel to be in as a small foot print as possible. if you weed out all the cruft, you don't need much memory nor CPU power19:57
chilukurgodfather, don't kill their windows install either..19:57
mdfeeverestt, cifs (samba) and virtualisation support on a chromebook19:57
diverdudewhen is mysql 5.6 coming for ubuntu?19:57
chilukurgodfather, good luck... if that doesn't fix things... update bios... update firmware...19:57
urgodfatherchiluk: not my first rodeo19:57
chilukhell you might even try that first19:58
neekz0reverestt: so your little linux router would only need a 250mhz processor with 64M of ram to operate at near 100Mb line speeds19:58
kvothetechupomoc: ok so what shows up in the logs when you try to connect19:58
chilukurgodfather, I can't really help you with firmware/bios as that is machine specific.19:58
aeLiXihrkvothetech: okay, this ntfs-3g is already there, i remounted. if i do a: sudo rm -fr /media/USB-HDD/.Trash-1000 i get: rm: cannot remove `/media/USB-HDD/.Trash-1000/files/Recycled/Df30.me/Thumbs.db': Read-only file system19:58
mauihow can i see the contents of a file as a list and not as icons?!19:58
kvothetechaeLiXihr: type just mount is it mounted read only...19:58
gordonjcpmaui: in nautilus?19:59
kvothetechmaui: ls?19:59
neekz0reverestt: that's just an example, but usually compiling your own kernel is when you have something very specific in mind; or you just want to screw around :)19:59
mauiany file that contains pdf, images etc19:59
mauii see contents only as images:/19:59
mauias icons19:59
mauii want to see content as list19:59
gordonjcpmaui: <ctrl-2>19:59
mdfemaui,  ther's a giant button for that in the top right of nautilis19:59
neekz0ralthough, to be honest, i see it coming back with cloud computing19:59
mauiwhat is nautiflus\19:59
upomockvothetech:  i dont want to go this road again i try evryting listed on forums i asked here 10 times and try zilion things , so what good range wifi card works out the box so i go buy it?19:59
neekz0rwhen your enviroment is virtual, you don't need all the drivers as modules19:59
mauiforget it, i found it19:59
mauisorry, stupid question:P20:00
mdfemaui, nautilus is the 'file explorer' program20:00
samuraibsdHas anyone using 13.04 with Chrome or Chromium noticed that every time you type in the Unity menu to search, it opens a new about:blank tab?20:00
kvothetechupomoc: look for an hcl then theres a lot that work fine.20:00
everesttllutz, kvothetech, neekz0r, mdfe ...I think I get it now :) ...is there a website where I can find news about customized kernels with significant performance gain?20:00
aeLiXihrkvothetech: idid:  mount -o remount,rw /media/USB-HDD20:01
mdfeeverdred, i thik webupda8 just did an article on custom kernels for performance20:01
aeLiXihris that ok?20:01
upomockvothetech:  hc1 what is thet20:01
kvothetechaeLiXihr: kk20:01
llutzeverestt: on an average pc there is no kernel "with significant performance gain?"20:01
aeLiXihrkk?20:01
kvothetechupomoc: hardware compatibility list...20:01
mdfeeverestt, sorry, see http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/get-better-linux-desktop-performance.html20:01
everesttllutz, mdfe ok :)20:02
mdfeeverestt, if that breaks your system, i'm invisible, ok?20:02
kvothetechllutz: depends what you're doin on it... neekz0r good example llutz it doesn't take more than 3 minutes to learn how to do one ...what takes a while is getting it how you want it /right...again a one time thing though for the most part.20:02
aeLiXihrkvothetech: mount|grep USB says: (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks)20:02
upomockvothetech:  do you meybe know how to enable  wifi card to use its wpa nativly20:03
kvothetechupomoc: wpa_supplicant?20:03
llutzkvothetech: i'm doing this for a while, i guess i can say that a custom kernel for a "normal pc" is wasted time in most cases (except education)20:04
kvothetechaeLiXihr: kk uhm odd umask but other than that it looks riht20:04
everesttmdfe, I just need to know how to revert to the previous working kernel from a bootable pendrive20:04
Vooloomy ubuntu keeps nagging me about a partial upgrade, if I do this, will I get the useless sidebar that I don't want?20:04
everesttmdfe, and I don't know how to do that... yet.20:04
kvothetechllutz: probably personally i just have fun doing it :)20:04
mdfeeverestt, the kernel will be in /boot and in /lib/modules20:04
neekz0reverestt: if you are really curious about linux, i suggest LFS (linux from scratch), it'll show you how to make your own distrobution :)20:04
kvothetecheverestt: just edit your grub20:05
upomockvothetech:  so what is wpa_supplicant comand to set it too use nativ card suplicant20:05
jkeipercan i temporarily stop a daily cron script from running by just moving it out of /etc/cron.daily/ to my home until i'm ready to let it run again?20:05
mdfeeverestt, you need those files, and then you need to run update-grub to rebuild the boot loader20:05
jkeiperor do i have to follow up by restarting smoething?20:05
llutzjkeiper: just move the file20:05
kvothetechjkeiper: crontab -e and comment it?20:06
aeLiXihrkvothetech: so i am f#ckt?20:06
jkeiperthanks20:06
everesttneekz0r, I think I'll give it a try someday... last time I tried (a couple of years ago) I gave up.20:06
thecodeischaosif i disconnect from a wifi network... after a while, that network is not visible from the taskbar icon... i can see it in "hidden networks" though. why does it go there?20:06
llutzjkeiper: or add "exit 0" at the beginning of the script, until you're done20:06
everesttkvothetech, yep.20:06
kvothetechaeLiXihr: no.20:06
jkeiperllutz: ooh, i like that better20:06
aeLiXihr:) than what do i do next ?20:07
thecodeischaosthe network isnt hidden though, because my other computers can see it20:07
everesttkvothetech, neekz0r, llutz, mdfe ...thank you all :) ...I'll go put 3.9.2-pf again and hope the sound doesn't break this time.20:07
jkeiperthx llutz20:07
kvothetechaeLiXihr: well it's mounted rw...it's saying read only..so stupid question...does your user have perms to access the folder (execute permissions on the dir) you're trying to delete20:08
thecodeischaosbut ubuntu thinks it is hidden because i disconnected from it manually20:08
aeLiXihryes that too, but i did a sudo20:08
kvothetechthecodeischaos: ?20:08
kvothetechaeLiXihr: kk....i'm missing something stupid...someone else will point it out in about 10 seconds20:09
aeLiXihri dunno20:09
thecodeischaosi was connected to my wifi network on my other pc, and manually disconnected from it.... then after a while on that machine i couldnt see the network anymore... but i can see it in "hidden networks"20:09
aeLiXihri have been fighting the thing for 3 days by now20:09
thecodeischaosit dosnt show up normally again until i reboot the machine20:10
kvothetechaeLiXihr: ok just unmount it completely for a sec20:10
aeLiXihrshall i shut it off?20:10
kvothetechaeLiXihr: aeLiXihr no just unmount it20:10
everestt(brb)20:10
aeLiXihrmount -o rw /media/USB-HDD ?20:11
kvothetechaeLiXihr:  as root yeah do that in /media or somewhere20:12
kvothetechthecodeischaos: put your card in promiscuous mode and tcpdump20:12
kvothetechthecodeischaos: do you see your ssid being broadcasted....if you want you can use airomon and airodump20:13
samuraibsdGuys, this problem is really weird and I'm kind of desperate to find a fix for it20:13
llutz"iwlist s" does20:13
aeLiXihrkvothetech: sudo unmount -o rw /media/USB-HDD ?20:13
AleXaod prelaska na 13.04 grafika mi mnogo secka20:13
AleXabrat se žali na igrice20:14
kvothetechaeLiXihr: sudo umount /media/USB-HDD20:14
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aeLiXihrtnx20:14
AleXaa ja  primetim da mi kod video player-a embedovanog na web stranici takođe secka - a nije net u pitanju20:14
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kvothetechaeLiXihr: then sudo mount -o rw /dev/<device><partition> /media20:14
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aeLiXihrdone20:14
kvothetechaeLiXihr:  sudo rm -rf yourfilehere20:15
AleXaSorry, mistake.20:15
kvothetechAleXa: english?20:15
aeLiXihrkvothetech: eh?20:15
kvothetechllutz: huh?20:15
AleXaHaving problem with graphics since moving to 13.04. Brother says graphic in games is pitty, and I've noticed glitches when watching some video online20:16
kvothetechsamuraibsd: what problem20:16
ozuxI'm trying to restart network with /etc/init.d/networking but there is no effect, can't find any bug report, any body have idea what has been changed?20:16
AleXaWhat shall I do?20:16
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kvothetechozux: ?? do stop then start if that works then restart should work fine just does it faster than youre wathing20:17
kvothetechAleXa: give us useful infromation would be a good start.20:17
kvothetechaeLiXihr: did that work20:17
ozuxkvothetech: tried to stop, and start , no effect20:18
aeLiXihri do not understand what to do20:18
desperateinstallHello all!  Fourth time around for an install of ringtail.  Installs just fine, but the first reboot hangs on the bootloader.  X64 samsung laptop.  What am I doing wrong?20:18
ozuxkvothetech: it's server, no network manager20:18
AleXaI'm using X.org X server - ATI AMD driver20:18
aeLiXihri unmounted20:18
ozuxkvothetech: and no silly configs, pretty standard20:18
AleXa**open-source20:18
kvothetechozux: so then stop should be pretty obvious if it works...20:19
AleXaWhat other infos can I provide you?20:19
m0nk3yjoeI'm trying to install Ubuntu LTS 12.04.2 on a dell Dimension e310 and it installs but just crashes after Grub menu20:19
kvothetechaeLiXihr: follow the 2 commands after that20:19
ozuxkvothetech: Yep, but after start, i get same configs before stop.20:19
m0nk3yjoeI have tried to go to recovery options but it crashes and says compression error20:19
m0nk3yjoeAny ideas20:19
aeLiXihri do not get that: sudo mount -o rw /dev/<device><partition> /media sudo rm -rf yourfilehere20:19
kvothetechAleXa: X info exact games, video mech used that didn't work which amd driver and chipset...framerates..20:20
aeLiXihri do not know what to fill in20:20
ozuxm0nk3yjoe: error 26?  This error is returned if the file header for a supposedly compressed file is bad.20:20
kvothetechozux: so did you change the config20:20
ozuxm0nk3yjoe: most likely, you should try re-installing grub20:20
m0nk3yjoeozux, Off CD right?20:21
ozuxkvothetech: yes, indeed, that's the reason I need to restart networking.20:21
g-maurizi#ubuntu, solved my problem. I was testing my NAT rule from the console of the router, and did not have an OUTPUT rule in iptables for the NAT. ty20:21
ozuxm0nk3yjoe: to be honest, it's a while I did not use CD. Normally I re-install grub by booting a live disk and issue grub install20:22
AleXagames are run over wine: WoW and Counter Strike. But the whole system is somehow slowed down. When I scroll down through the page in Firefox, it's slicing20:22
ozuxm0nk3yjoe: you may try super grub disk20:22
AleXabtw, OpenGL is used for both games20:22
ozuxm0nk3yjoe: you installed grub 0n MBR isn't? Does it show the grub menu? and options?20:22
kvothetechaeLiXihr: uhm you should have gotten it earlier from your mount command if you dont know otherwise /dev/sd(b,c,d)(1,2,3) are common depending on drive count/partitions20:22
kvothetechAleXa: turn off vsync20:23
aeLiXihrsdb it is20:23
kvothetechaeLiXihr: so sdb1 then20:23
aeLiXihrok20:23
ozuxkvothetech: every time I have to restart, or try ifconfig eth0 down, then eth1 and eth220:23
llutzozux: sudo nohup sh -c "invoke-rc.d networking stop; sleep 2; invoke-rc.d networking start"20:23
castedohi all, how can i know what type of cipher is being used on a drive?20:24
ozuxkvothetech:  the point is, I get to the new config, but the fact /etc/.../networking restart is not working is quite strange for me20:24
aeLiXihrkvothetech: sudo mount -o rw /dev/sdb1 ?20:24
kvothetechaeLiXihr: yes20:24
aeLiXihrtnx20:24
kvothetechaeLiXihr: you need a /media after it20:24
kvothetechso it knows where to put it20:24
aeLiXihrok20:24
aeLiXihrkvothetech: done20:25
urgodfatherchiluk: clean install, up to date, still no connect. just prompts for the key again, then trys to connect20:26
ozuxllutz: nope. I have still my old eth0 IP address20:26
AleXakvothetech, I'm not able to google how to turn off the vsync in xubuntu (xfce)20:26
llutzozux: then check your config20:26
aeLiXihrkvothetech: what is: sudo rm -rf yourfilehere ?20:26
kvothetechAleXa: i use xmonad (and i don't use wine) so no idea then if you already did that20:27
aeLiXihrit is a folder i wish to get rid of20:27
lulz0rCan someone help me reading the cpu temperatures over ssh? (Have root access, machine is right next to me.) I installed lm-sensors, but they only show this https://ideone.com/oV1gYq and it's always exactly the same, even if I put load on the cpu. I have a 3770k and a msi z77a-g43 board. I already tried sensors-detect and modprobe lm78, but that didn't change anything. What should I do?20:27
kvothetechaeLiXihr: thatll work for a folder...the -r is recursive the -f is dont ask20:27
kvothetechlulz0r: get worse cooling :)20:27
kvothetechlulz0r: i did'nt actually click the link :)20:28
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lulz0rkvothetech I doubt my cooling is so good that the temperature doesn't change one bit :D20:29
aeLiXihrkvothetech: sudo rm -rf /media/USB-HDD/.Trash-1000 ?20:29
kvothetechaeLiXihr: you should just have to type /media unless you remounted it to /media/USB-HDD20:30
dev__I want to launch 3 basic servers on boot and keep them running in gnome-terminal tabs. I've written up a bash script to do this but the windows all return "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal". Any idea how to do this?20:30
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kvothetechaeLiXihr: er /media/.Trash-100020:30
kvothetechaeLiXihr: or you had it right if you mounted it back to the exact same spot20:30
urgodfatheranyone else got experience in troubleshooting wifi? clean install 13.04, up to date, intel advanced-n 6235. can see networks, just not connect. chip is new, works fine in winblows.20:30
Biomechdhow do i clear my java cache?20:31
kvothetechlulz0r: hey i was being optimistic :)20:31
aeLiXihrah, something is happening20:31
kvothetechurgodfather: use iwl20:31
lulz0rkvothetech: I just don't get how such an easy thing can be that hard, it's like 5 clicks on windows. :(20:31
urgodfatherkvothetech: how to? what commands? never used it before20:32
aeLiXihrkvothetech: hmmm, the same long list of: rm: cannot remove `/media/USB-HDD/.Trash-1000/files/Recycled/Df30.me/Thumbs.db': Read-only file system20:32
kvothetechurgodfather: the centrino n cards almost always work better with iwl20:32
kvothetechurgodfather: uhm i compiled it into my kernel but you should be able to modprobe it too20:33
urgodfatherkvothetech: how?20:33
kvothetechurgodfather: then rmmod the one you have /are using now20:33
nielhello im thinking about ditching my iphone and going to android I have an Ubuntu computer any suggestion of what phone or what to do?20:33
kvothetechniel: note 2 or nexus 420:33
llutzniel: wrong channel20:33
niel?20:34
nielhow so?20:34
aeLiXihrthank you anyway!20:34
nielwhat channel should I be in?20:34
aeLiXihrkvothetech: i am going of, thanks again!20:34
guntbert_niel: this channel is for ubuntu support *only*20:34
kvothetechaeLiXihr: ....ls -Zal that folder20:34
nielguntbert_, well I was asking for support for a question20:35
urgodfatherkvothetech: woudl this be a suitable tutorial? http://askubuntu.com/questions/287369/how-install-iwlwifi-driver-in-ubuntu-13-0420:35
kvothetechniel: note2 best specs ....nexus 4 ...better community20:35
Biomechddoes anyone know how to clear my java cache? a program i'm trying to use isn't working, and before i got a thing about clearing my java cache.20:35
kvothetechurgodfather: idk i'm not on ubuntu...judging from link title yeah sounds right20:35
nielnow is ubuntu hard to install once I get the phone google is not helping20:36
kvothetechniel: you want ubuntu on the phone? or android...20:36
kvothetechniel: you just changed your question20:36
aeLiXihrkvothetech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5675239/20:36
guntbert_niel: we are providing technical ubuntu support here - discussions and polls happen elsewhere please20:36
llutzniel: ubuntu has mtp support, so android phones can be accessed in general. what phone you have to buy is offtopic here20:36
babadoes ubuntu supports qemu ?20:36
urgodfatherkvothetech: or something from here? http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi#Download20:37
nielkvothetech, can I pm you?20:37
llutzbaba: yes20:37
kvothetechniel: no20:37
baballutz: cool20:38
Roy_Newbie_13-04what is the best way to have hotmail integration or under the mail icon in the top right?20:38
urgodfatherkvothetech: ok, so different driver but how to install?20:38
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kvothetechurgodfather: iwlwifi is what you want how you get it is up to you...like i said...compile it into your kernel (it should come with the sources) or modprobe it if you already have it as a module.20:38
baballutz: should i choose ubuntu server or desktop edition ?20:38
kvothetechbaba: depends what you want?20:39
llutzbaba: how would i know?20:39
aeLiXihrkvothetech: goodnight, thank you! :)20:39
urgodfatherkvothetech: its a tarball20:39
kvothetechaeLiXihr: sorry didn't get it to work20:39
kvothetechurgodfather: extract it20:39
muculus http://dba.stackexchange.com/questions/42464/packages-that-php-need-to-connect-to-mysql20:39
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kvothetechae Likihr that last test was to see if selinux or something was in the way20:39
babafrom stability and support point of view which one i should select, i need to emulate sparc and arm platforms.20:39
babakvothetech: ^^20:40
urgodfatherkvothetech: i know that much, I'm transferring to laptop now.20:40
upomoc kvothetech:  i figur what is my problem  it is drivers newer drivers dont work good does somone know how to downgrade drivers from driver=rt2800usb driverversion=3.8.0-19-generic TO driver=rt2800usb driverversion=3.2.0-41-generic-pae20:41
Elements_of_instHello all! how i can decide what hosting to hire for website i am currently running website with 5000+ hosts a day, but it is a shared virtual hosting and website most of the time is down, how to determine if i need VPS, VDS or dedicated server?20:42
upomocand i remeber on older ubuntu it worked normal20:42
kvothetechupomoc: by removing the new ones and putting in the old ones20:42
kvothetechElements_of_inst: a vps is a vds they're the same thing first off20:43
Biomechdi have an online class soon and blackboard apparently can't connect until i clear my java cache. how do i do this in ubuntu?20:43
Elements_of_instkvothetech, yes thats true, you are right!20:43
kvothetechElements_of_inst: budget, scalability, locaiton, hardware availability, experience, etc all are factors...20:43
urgodfatherkvothetech: says to cp into /lib/firmware and then it can be loaded. how to load?20:44
kvothetechurgodfather: modprobe?20:44
Elements_of_instkvothetech, not sure what you mean by that, i thought that the server parameters are more important that my phisical location:)20:44
urgodfatherkvothetech: modprobe .... what?20:45
kvothetechElements_of_inst: if it's a dedicated or a colo...it matters where it is....whether you want a vps or a dedicated should depend on your budget scalability ou want and whether you know what you're doing or not20:45
kvothetechurgodfather: modprobe iwlwifi20:45
Elements_of_instkvothetech, how is that? :)) IF it is a virtual shared server then it doesnt metter where it is?"20:46
kvothetechElements_of_inst: if you go that route it might not but you probably want to stay in your country.....20:46
Elements_of_instkvothetech, no not in my country my website has internatial traffic20:47
kvothetechElements_of_inst: i was listing things to consider...if you live across the street from a datacenter and have hardware to colo it'd be stupid to vps in a country on the other side of the world for example20:47
urgodfatherkvothetech: shouldnt i rkill or something first?20:47
kvothetechurgodfather: modprobe -r <module it's using now>20:47
upomockvothetech:  f my wifi buged i hed to rebot to ZorinOS anywey how to remove new driver and install old i know i can modprobe -r rt2800usb but dont know  any more20:48
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Tarso#analizo20:49
Biomechdguys, i have a virtual class in 10 minutes and i need to clear my java cache so i can use blackboard collaborate. how do i do that?20:49
Tarsoops20:49
Tarsosry20:49
urgodfatherkvothetech: i rebooted20:49
kvothetechurgodfather: ok20:49
upomoc        how to downgred drivers20:49
kvothetechurgodfather: lsmod grep to see if it's loaded20:50
Biomechdkvothetech: can you help, perhaps?20:51
urgodfatherkvothetech: lsmod | grep didnt work20:52
kvothetechurgodfather: ?20:52
kvothetechBiomechd: uhm .java or /tmp would be my guess20:53
muscals ~/.icedteaplugin/cache20:53
bekksurgodfather: lsmod | grep whattogrepfor20:53
urgodfatherkvothetech: did i use the command right?20:53
upomochow to downgrade rt2800 driver older20:53
urgodfatherbekks: so... lsmod | grep intel??20:53
OerHeksBiomechd, last item:> https://confluence.hatsize.com/display/SUPPORTKBASE/Clearing+JAVA+Plug-in+Cache+(Java+1.5,+1.6)   > should work for oracle java, for openJDK > rm -rf ~/.icedteaplugin/cache20:54
kvothetechurgodfather: iwlwifi is what you're grepping for20:54
bekksurgodfather: If the module is named intel or contains the string intel - yes.20:54
uroyanmeis the Msn dashboard for a microsoft browser and not Chrome?20:54
urgodfatherok now i have something20:55
kvothetechurgodfather: ok now test your card20:55
urgodfatheriwlwifi 1 dvm and cfg80211 3 iwlwifi20:55
kvothetechurgodfather: i think you're supposed to have a mac80211 but maybe not...try it20:56
kvothetechuroyanme: what?20:56
urgodfatherkvothetech: yeah cfg80211.... 3.... iwlwifi, mac80211, and iwldvm20:57
kvothetechurgodfather: and does it work?20:57
urgodfatherkvothetech: negative ghost rider20:58
kvothetechurgodfather: error is?20:58
uroyanmeCan is use the msn browser or dashboard on Ubuntu? My dad was asking me this.20:58
kvothetechuroyanme: i'm not sure what you mean by msn browser because last i checked there is no such thing ....20:59
BiomechdOerHeks: could i perhaps just delete everything in the .icedtea/cache/ folder?20:59
kvothetechBiomechd: yes20:59
OerHeksBiomechd, sure20:59
urgodfatherkvothetech: same problem.. trys to connect then just prompts for pw again20:59
uroyanmeOk, I am trying to look up msn dashboard... ick20:59
Biomechdalright, just wanted to make sure i wouldn't be messing anything up.20:59
kvothetechurgodfather: hmm does your wpa supplicant work?20:59
OerHeksBiomechd, after that, restart your browser20:59
uroyanmeOh, will MSN explorer work on Ubuntu?21:00
urgodfatherkvothetech: i dunno but the network is wep anyways21:00
OerHeksuroyanme, maybe with wine21:00
uroyanmeIck, that will be very slow.21:01
kvothetechurgodfather: kk so we can rule out wpasupp..21:01
urgodfatherkvothetech: i had this same problem when i installed the same card in a different pc. was a clean load of 12.10 on it. it took a few reboots and many connect attempts, but once it got connected the first time, did not have anymore issues21:02
uroyanmeCan anyone suggest a browser for Ubuntu that I can customize?21:04
urgodfatherkvothetech: its certified hardware, should i be having this much trouble?21:05
Biomechdthanks OerHeks and kvothetech. the blackboard java file's downloading stuff now.21:05
akurilin2Is there an appropriate folder where I could have the www-data user save temporary files?21:06
kvothetechakurilin2: /tmp seems a bit obvious21:07
akurilin2Is it awful if I create something like /var/nginx and chown www-data to it?21:07
kvothetechakurilin2: that works too21:07
akurilin2kvothetech, the question is, am I breaking some kind of smart best practice here as far permissions to low-privilege users are concerned?21:08
llutz /tmp is a bad idea, if its not on its own filesystem. no webserver should be able to fill /21:08
akurilin2if I do the above.21:08
vlad_starkovQuestion: can anyone explain me how it is possible that after I changed faulty HDD in my RAID1 and launched recovery process, after system boot I have clear system with no software and my data like?????21:10
urgodfatherkvothetech: am i supposed to re-compile the kernel after i copied that ucode into /lib/firmware?21:11
urgodfatherkvothetech: if so, how?21:11
baibumanu 5121:13
Jordan_Uvlad_starkov: Did you allow the system to run in degraded mode or was it configured to fail to boot when degraded?21:13
baibu72.240.1.3) Quit.2.7.69) bla bla bla21:14
TonyIs there a way to set umask for all the files created by a user, having a issue with a user, he wants all is file to be 755 upon creation but befault  ubuntu appears to be using 64421:15
TonyI tried setting umaek 022 under the .profile and .bashrc but that doesn't appear to work, any clues21:16
groovehunterhi, i wanted to install a .deb manually, did not work, now want to deselect it again?21:16
bekksthe umask 022 is the default.21:16
Roy_Newbie_13-04how can i grab all the out put from htop to a file ... there is a certin presss running that has lots of pharms, and the gui front end is limited so i want to  modify it for a terminal21:16
baibubla bla bla21:16
vlad_starkovJordan_U: it run in degraded mode21:17
Tonybekks: do you know how to set this persmissions o the user files are coming with 75521:18
bekksTony: They are set like that by default.21:18
Jordan_Uvlad_starkov: Is it possible that it has been running in degraded mode for a very long time?21:18
Tonybekks: it appears that that only applis to directories21:18
Tonyapplied to direcotries, whent the use creates a file, they are showing as 64421:18
bekksTony: 755 applies to directories, due to the execution flag, which is not needed for files, thus they are 644 by default.21:19
bekksTony: You dont want to set 755 on _all_ files, since thats not needed.21:19
llutzTony: umask 0022 makes dirs (base permission 777) 755 and files (666) 64421:19
Tonybekks: but I want the users files to have 755 by default21:19
bekksTony: Why?21:19
vlad_starkovJordan_U: no21:19
Tonythe users wants it that way21:19
bekksTony: Why do you want a stock text file to be executable?21:19
llutzTony: you cannot use umask for that21:20
Tonymost of the files are web pages and they have to have the rx bits set21:20
Roy_Newbie_13-04what was that one way you can list a running process, i think i had 'ps' or 'eq' in it21:20
bekksllutz: You have to use ACL then.21:20
Tonyotherwise the webserver can read them21:20
llutzbekks: tony has to21:20
Tonythe user doesn't want to chmod the files, he wants it automatically done21:20
vlad_starkovJordan_U: I started repairing system 2 hours after it failed21:20
vlad_starkovJordan_U: the system contain web servers, database....21:20
bekksTony: And the webserver can read them, but cant execute them. If it is configured like that, reconfigure the webserver.21:20
* baibu slaps [deXter] around a bit with a large trout21:21
Tonybekks: pointer on using acl for this purpose21:21
baibucade seu cowboy?21:21
llutzcan any op please show baibu the door, thanks21:21
dev__I want to launch 3 basic servers on boot and keep them running in gnome-terminal tabs. I've written up a bash script to do this but the windows all return "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal". Any idea how to do this?21:21
vlad_starkovwith all users data21:21
bekksTony: It is nonsense to force a .html/.php/.whatever file to have execution permissions, when the file is just read and then interpreted/executed by the webserver/some API.21:21
bekksTony: Its a pretty bad design.21:21
bekks!acl21:22
Jordan_Ubaibu: Please stay on topic and productive.21:22
Tonybekks: the user is mainly using .css21:22
bekksTony: Which do not have to be executed. They do not contain anything executable.21:23
vlad_starkovJordan_U: I can't understand why it look like a virgin if I have 1 of 2 HDD in 100% health. Another one is in recovery process for the moment.21:23
holy-one_tpi-usahow do i connect to tpb on here?21:25
Jordan_Uholy-one_tpi-usa: What is "tpb"?21:25
llutzThe Pirate Bay (tpb)21:26
holy-one_tpi-usathe pirate bay? they have an irc sever ppi21:26
giuliohi21:27
holy-one_tpi-usanot sure how to connect21:27
giulio!list21:27
ubottugiulio: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».21:27
llutzholy-one_tpi-usa: ask in #freenode21:27
Jordan_Uholy-one_tpi-usa: This is Freenode, not the pirate bay's servers.21:27
holy-one_tpi-usakk thanks21:27
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bfighello, i'm wondering, what is the easiest way to connect to a l2tp vpn?21:28
bfig(with shared secret)21:29
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Jordan_Uvlad_starkov: The only explanation that I can think of for the symptoms you're seeing is this, where "drive A" is the drive you've removed, "drive B" is the other drive that was in the RAID originally, and "drive C" is the new drive: Shortly after installing your system (while it still didn't have much software installed or data created) drive B failed to be added to the array for some reason (maybe hardware, maybe software) and ...21:31
Jordan_U... since then you've been running in degraded mode using only drive A. After seeing that drive A was having hardware issues, you replaced it with drive C and tried to sync C with A, but A hasn't been part of the RAID for a long time. Hence you are brought back to the very early state before A was (somehow) removed from the array.21:31
sscorreabfig, have you already installed l2tp vpn client?21:31
bfigi tried, but it didn't let me put the shared secret anywhere21:32
chilukurgodfather, how's it going missed your last update.21:32
Jordan_Uvlad_starkov: Make that last sentence "before B was somehow removed from the array."21:32
bfigsscorrea, ^21:32
vlad_starkovJordan_U: I see your point. I'll check data availablity on removed drive.21:33
Jordan_Uvlad_starkov: In other words, most of your data exists only on drive A, which is unfortunate given that drive A is having hardware problems.21:33
sscorreal2tp-ipset vpn?21:33
sscorreabfig, did you install l2tp ipset vpn?21:33
nyc-h0stguys, odd problem ,grub keeps trying to install to sda during installation, is there a way to change it to install to sdc? i cant change the order the drives are reported21:34
bfigsscorrea, yes... the gui doesn't let me input the shared secret anywhere21:34
vlad_starkovJordan_U: so you mean that drive B and drive C are healthy?21:34
vlad_starkovJordan_U: and drive A is faulty and now I sync drive B with new drive C?21:35
sscorreabfig, go to the PPP tab, check ms-chap and ms-chapv21:35
sscorreaadd your user and password21:35
Jordan_Uvlad_starkov: Only because you seemed to be assuming they were. It may be that at least drive B is unhealthy as that would explain it not being a part of the array for so long.21:35
Jordan_Uvlad_starkov: And I'm also assuming that by "healthy" you're reffering only to the hardware itself, not the data contained therein.21:36
vlad_starkovJordan_U: so is there a chance that I removed the wrong drive – drive A and I should put it back and remove drive B21:36
vlad_starkovJordan_U: healthy – only hardware sure21:37
nyc-h0stanyone? is there a way to update the MBR on a drive other than the first during install?21:37
llutznyc-h0st: sudo grub-install /dev/sdX21:37
nyc-h0stllutz, i assume i'd have to boot using the cd post-installation to do that?21:38
Jordan_Uvlad_starkov: Yes, there is that chance. I haven't worked much with mdraid so I don't know how likely it is that this could happen, but probably the worst thing that could happen right now would be for the data on drive C or B to be mirrored onto drive A, overwriting all your actual data, so be careful to avoid that.21:38
llutznyc-h0st: i'd guess so. you also could try to open a terminal while installing and issue the command there21:39
nyc-h0sttried that already :)21:39
vlad_starkovJordan_U: before I put back drive A I'll clone it.21:39
nyc-h0stok, thx21:39
llutznyc-h0st: sry i'm not familiar with the live-cd/installation21:39
vlad_starkovto external drive21:39
Jordan_Unyc-h0st: llutz: You need to at least add a --boot-directory argument to grub-install when installing from a LiveCD.21:40
nyc-h0stok, i found a way, kind of lame, but if you hit 'No' to the MBR installer it prompts which drive you'd like to use21:40
p014kSo I am no longer in the sudoers file for my computer....I don't know what I did, but I was trying to change permissions for a directory yesterday via various commands, but at no point did I pess with my username (but only with a guest's username). When I try to do sudo, It says I'm no longer in the sudoers list. I tried doing su, to login as root, but it gives me an authentication error. What is the default su password?21:40
nyc-h0sti could swear i tried that already21:40
nyc-h0stanyway, thx guys21:41
Jordan_Uvlad_starkov: Might as well clone it using GNU ddrescue. If the drive is fine, it will be just as fast as dd, and if it is damaged then GNU ddrescue will likely recover more data.21:41
llutzp014k: there is no default password, su needs roots password, which isn't set21:41
p014kso what do I do?21:42
llutzp014k: boot in recovery mode or from live-cd and fix sudoers file21:42
phuffI'm getting Failed getting release file http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release when running lxc-create and I'm guessing that I need to redirect lxc-create to the right place to get maverick, but I can't see the proper way to do so in the help for the ubuntu template I've got...21:42
llutzor your users groups p014k21:42
Jordan_Up014k: It's most likely that your /etc/sudoers is fine but that you removed yourself from the "sudo" or "admin" group.21:43
p014kthat's probably true, I did change my group...21:43
p014kI thought I was adding myself to a new group i created21:43
Jordan_Uphuff: Maverick is EOL, please use a supported version of Ubuntu.21:43
sscorreajust add that group to sudoers21:43
llutzp014k: let me guess, using "usermod -G group ...."?21:44
sscorreathrough recovery21:44
p014kya, lol21:44
phuffJordan_U I'd love to, but I need to build for a 10.10 host that is in production :(21:44
vithi'm trying to set up a ubuntu vm as a vpn gateway for another device on my lan to use. i have the vpn connected and ip forwarding works, but it forwards to my router instead of to the vpn even though traffic generated on ubuntu goes to the vpn. any ideas?21:44
llutzp014k: usermod -aG   or better adduser user group    next time21:44
phuffWell, that I have no ability to upgrade, it's technically not in production production.21:44
p014kSo recovery mode then. In that be su?21:44
Jordan_Up014k: You didn't just add yourself to that group, you set that as the *only* group you were a member of :)21:44
p014kI'll be*21:44
p014kJordan_U: right..:/21:44
sscorreayes there you may login as root21:45
Jordan_Up014k: If you boot into recovery mode you will be able to get to a root shell, yes.21:45
vlad_starkovJordan_U: I'm on Mac. What do you recommend then?21:45
p014kok, thx. I'll be back if I don't figure it out :) Thanks21:45
vlad_starkovJordan_U: I'have dd21:45
mah454Hello21:46
Jordan_Uvlad_starkov: I would personally boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB and install and use GNU ddrescue, but if you are confidant that the drive is fine dd should work just fine.21:46
Sniperm4nhey everyone, I have what I hope is a quick question regarding the failover feature of DHCPD in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. can anyone assist? =)21:47
Jordan_Uvlad_starkov: If the drive does have bad sectors then dd will stop at the first error, leaving you with an incomplete image and will will be difficult (though not impossible) to create the rest of the image from blocks that can be read.21:47
mah454laptop-mode-tools Or tlp ?21:48
bekksmah454: And whats the full question?21:49
mah454bekks: for power saving in Laptop21:49
mah454I want to install some packages ...21:49
bekksmah454: And whats the full question...?21:50
Dr_Willisgreat! Install those packages! that will teach them!21:50
Dr_Willis;P21:50
mah454now i dont know , what is different laptop-mode-tools and tlp ?21:50
mah454what package is better ?21:50
Dr_Willistlp is a recent 'creation'21:50
Dr_Willistry tlp and see if it works well for you.21:50
Sniperm4nI'm replacing a single dying DHCP server with 2 new servers configured with failover. my question is: Do dhcpd.leases and dhcpd.leases~ need to be copied to BOTH the primary and secondary failover peer, or does the protocol sync the file from the primary to secondary?21:51
Roy_Newbie_13-04i made a sh file, it does work when in teminal i do ./Virus_Scan.sh ... How can i make it so when i use "Files" from the launcher, find the file and doubble click it and it will open in a terminal.. Cant even get that far... and now close the terminal when the process is done?21:51
Sniperm4nand, in turn, automatically keep the files in sync?21:51
Dr_WillisRoy_Newbie_13-04:   best way would be to make a .desktop launcher file for the script that way you get a proper icon.21:52
Roy_Newbie_13-04this is for a friend who is command line uneducated21:52
Dr_WillisRoy_Newbie_13-04:  and have the laucnher run somthing like 'xterm -e /path/to/the/Virusscan.sh'21:52
Roy_Newbie_13-04how do i do the .desktop  Dr_Willis21:52
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Dr_WillisRoy_Newbie_13-04:  look for an example one such as gedit.desktop and copy/rename/modify it as needed.21:52
vlad_starkovJordan_U: OK. I'll start one more attempt.21:52
Dr_Willislocate gedit.desktop          will show where gedit.desktop is at.21:53
Carter2So I have a quick question about Ubuntu Server 12.03 -> 13.0421:53
Dr_WillisRoy_Newbie_13-04:  how often is he even needing to scan for viruses?  and what av app is the script using?21:53
urgodfatherchiluk: i reinstalled 13.04, didnt need any data. touchpad is working again, as is everything else... EXCEPT that 6235 wifi card. i obtained the ucode from http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi#Download for the card and cp'd into the firmware folder21:53
urgodfatherchiluk: but dont know what to do next21:53
Dr_WillisRoy_Newbie_13-04:  http://askubuntu.com/search?q=create+launcher21:54
chilukurgodfather, one sec... before I steal your nic...21:54
Carter2I ran a sudo do-release-upgrade, and went through everything21:54
Carter2but then after a reboot, it says "new release '13.04' is available.21:54
chilukurgodfather,  and anyone else know the name of the package that includes backported wifi drivers?21:55
LuckySMackim on a fresh install or raring on my laptop, and i have no battery icon in my unity panel. ive tried a few things to try and get it to show but nothing works. changing the power settings does nothing.21:55
chilukurgodfather, have you run apt-get upgrade yet?21:55
urgodfatherchiluk: yes, im fully up to date21:55
chilukurgodfather, nuts.21:55
chilukurgodfather, one sec.21:55
Dr_WillisRoy_Newbie_13-04:  askubuntu has some better answers if you sort by 'votes21:56
Dr_Willis Roy_Newbie_13-04  http://askubuntu.com/search?tab=votes&q=create%20launcher21:56
Carter2anyone have any insight on what went wrong with my upgrade?21:56
Dr_WillisCarter2:  what does lsb_release -a say about your system?21:57
Carter2hmm, says 13.0421:57
kherthi all21:57
Dr_Willisthat points to the update-tool being a bit confused..21:57
kherti have fedora installed and want to dual boot ubuntu. Can i install it directly from the ISO or do i have to burn it to CD first?21:58
Dr_Willissounds to me like you are on 13.04 , and the update tool message checks like once a week.. and hassent rechecked21:58
chilukurgodfather, check for a firmware update to your router before going any further.21:59
Carter2ahh, that's re-assuring. Is there a way to force a check?21:59
chilukurgodfather, you should be working by now.21:59
Carter2or remove the update tool even21:59
Dr_Williskhert:   you can set up grub2 to boot an ISO file if you wanted to. may be easier to just make a bootable USB flash drive however.21:59
urgodfatherchiluk: router is ok... we keep it up to date.21:59
urgodfatherchiluk: bluetooth works fine, just cant connect to wifi21:59
chilukurgodfather, can you list any access points?22:00
khertDr_Willis, cool, i'll try that22:00
urgodfatherchiluk: yes, i can see all the networks around me that should be there.. and even a few more, just cant connect. just times out and prompts for pw again22:01
chilukurgodfather, alright do yourself a favor and check to see if you can connect to any other access point.22:01
Akumahello, how can I turn off the dhcp server at startup?22:01
urgodfatherchiluk: tried that lol22:01
urgodfatherchiluk: got it!!!22:02
uroyanmeHow do I update java in Ubuntu? thanks22:02
chilukurgodfather, because frankly I'm guessing you either have an incompatible router, you are typing the password wrong, or the security settings on your router are somehow not compatible/not new enough to work.22:02
bekks!java | uroyanme22:02
ubottuuroyanme: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.22:02
Dr_Willisuroyanme:  depends on how you installed java and what one you are using22:02
urgodfatherchiluk: i remember when i purchased the card for myself, i paired bluetooth and then all of a sudden it worked.22:02
urgodfatherchiluk: its connected now :D22:03
chilukurgodfather, sounds like a bios/firmware issue with that particular laptop.22:03
chilukurgodfather, you shall be ignored henceforth... there really needs to be some kind of karma system in place on this channel... and why don't we have any admins?22:03
urgodfatherchiluk: nah, different laptop, same type of card.22:04
urgodfatherchiluk: ignored? karma?22:04
chilukurgodfather, alright whatever man glad you could finally figure it out... I still bet it has something to do with your bios not being 100% compatible with it.22:05
chilukurgodfather, also you shouldn't have to use that downloaded firmware...22:05
urgodfatherchiluk: thank you for your patience and help. im gonna do a bios update to cover that too.22:06
urgodfatherchiluk: i shouldnt?22:06
chilukurgodfather, it shouldn't be necessary,22:06
chilukbut you are welcome to test and prove me wrong.22:06
p014kSo I went into the root command line in recovery and tried 'sudo usermod -aG sudo p014k' but it says it cannot lock to /etc/passwd. I then tried echo 'p014k ALL=(ALL) ALL' >> /etc/sudoers' and it said 'read-only filesystem'22:06
p014kJordan_U:22:06
urgodfatherchiluk: i dont know if its even being used. all i did is copy it into the firmware folder22:06
chilukthere should already be firmware for it in /lib/firmware22:06
urgodfatherchiluk: the one i used was specific to that card, from kernel.org22:07
chilukurgodfather, ubuntu already ships with firmware for that card.22:07
urgodfatherchiluk: so all i should do is just remove it from the firmware folder?\22:08
chilukurgodfather, you might consider reverting by moving out of the way the firmware you just placed in and running apt-get install --reinstall linux-firmware.22:08
chilukthen rebooting , and checking to see if it still works.22:09
chilukurgodfather, I say that because you want to know if updates to linux-firmware are going to break your wifi driver.22:09
chilukurgodfather, make sense?22:09
chilukurgodfather you have to reboot after replacing firmware fyi..22:10
chilukurgodfather, basically you don't want your customer coming back in a month telling you his wifi stopped working after he did an update.22:11
Sniperm4nanyone have any input? =/22:11
chilukSniperm4n, you might have better luck by just asking your question instead of asking if it's ok to ask.22:12
Learninggneed help http://pastebin.com/B1XGfiRZ22:12
th0rLearningg, you might try #python or #bash22:13
urgodfatherchiluk: good point. ok so remove that ucode then apt-get install --reinstall linux-firmware22:13
mdfeLearningg, try #python and paste your code22:13
chilukurgodfather, or just move it to your home directory temporarilly.22:13
Roy_Newbie_13-04i copied a .desktop and modify it, but i cant fint it in dash to work with22:14
otak_p014k: sorry if this has been mentioned before but normally visudo is used to alter /etc/sudoers and also the root device is mounted read-only in recovery mode so you'd need to remount it22:14
urgodfatherchiluk: thats where the original is22:14
chilukurgodfather, oh then just move the original back..22:15
LuckySMackanyone in here familiar with a bug in raring where the battery icon does not show up on a laptop?22:15
chilukLuckySMack, no.22:15
urgodfatherchiluk: whats the command to delete it?22:16
LuckySMackhrmm. i have tried a handful of things but i cannot get my battery icon to show.22:16
Dr_WillisRoy_Newbie_13-04:  put it in --> ~/.local/share/applications/      see     http://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity-by-hand22:17
chilukurgodfather just run the apt-get install --reinstall linux-firmware it will put it back to defaults.22:17
urgodfatherchiluk: ok22:18
chilukurgodfather, and seriously man... haven't I helped enough... http://lmgtfy.com/?q=remove+file+linux22:18
chilukurgodfather, ;)22:18
urgodfatherchiluk: interesting link22:19
Sniperm4nDoes anyone have knowledge of the failover peer capability in ISC-DHCP-SERVER v3.0?22:20
urgodfatherchiluk: id send ya a beer if i could22:20
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urgodfatherchiluk: btw after reboot, does the same thing as before... it connected just that one time.22:21
Roy_Newbie_13-04ok i found it in the dash, it had no label, i worked, but it open 2 terminals, one was blank, smaller black one did the work then automaticly closed22:21
Roy_Newbie_13-04i want it to stay open ehwn its done22:22
Learninggneed help: http://pastebin.com/efy8FSSx22:23
Jordan_URoy_Newbie_13-04: Then it's already creating a terminal window for you. Just have it run your script without the "xterm -e ...".22:23
Learninggany1?22:24
Roy_Newbie_13-04in the .desktop file should i set terminal true, default was false22:25
Jordan_URoy_Newbie_13-04: And if the terminal it automatically creates goes away at the end of your script as well, then just add a "read" at the end of the script (to have it not exit until the user presses enter), or a "sleep 99999" to have it not exit until the user presses ctrl+c / closes the window / otherwise kills the script.22:25
Jordan_URoy_Newbie_13-04: Setting it to true will work, just make sure that if you do that you're not also manually creating a terminal window (with xterm -e).22:26
Dr_WillisRoy_Newbie_13-04:  make your script do a 'read foo' at the end..22:26
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OerHeksLearningg, you might want to try  the #python channel here on #freenode too22:30
th0rOerHeks, I tried that already...he isn't llistening22:31
Roy_Newbie_13-04what is the icon for the terminal .desktop22:31
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mojtabaHi, does anybody know any pdf viewer which has highlighting ability?22:33
chilukurgodfather, so it continues to work afterwards though right?22:33
mojtabaI have tried Xournal, but it is not the one I am interested22:33
chilukurgodfather, you just have to connect to bluetooth first..22:33
mojtabaI want something like the one in MAC OS X22:33
mojtabahello?22:35
mojtabaanyone?22:35
Learninggyes22:36
AcidUkhi All22:36
chilukmojtaba, I think the one in chrome does... never used os x22:36
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chilukurgodfather, if you are still having issues you need to start googling for solutions to 6235 + 13.0422:37
misterxhi there22:37
misterxis it possible to change the *buntu distribution without a re-install?22:37
misterxi have a computer with an ancient ubuntu (10.* i think) and want to change to an up-to-day xubuntu22:39
Ben64misterx: you can go between ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, and ubuntu-gnome very easily22:39
Ben64misterx: 10.what ?22:39
misterxBen64: lucid22:40
Ben64ok, thats 10.04 so you could upgrade straight to 12.0422:40
misterxBen64: yeah, but i want to upgrade from ubuntu 10.4 to Xubuntu 12.0422:41
chilukurgodfather, you might also consider a post on ubuntuforums..22:41
Ben64misterx: then install xubuntu-desktop after you get to 12.0422:41
misterxBen64: does that also change the repositories in sources.list ?22:42
Ben64well upgrading them changes the repos to 12.04 ones22:43
th0rmisterx, xubuntu and ubuntu use the same repos22:43
misterxth0r: is there any package-list so that i can set up a "vanilla" xubuntu without a complete re-install? ;)22:45
th0rmisterx, no, if you really want a clean xubuntu install you will have to start from scratch22:45
th0rmisterx, but to be honest, I never upgrade...always install from scratch. If you have a separate partition for /home a fresh install is fairly easy22:46
urgodfatherchiluk: i always google first, also, i noticed that the linux-generic, linux-headers-generic, and linux-image-generic are not being updated... could that be the problem?22:46
misterxth0r: same here…22:46
chilukhow did you notice this?22:46
misterxjust too lazy to go through the whole installation-process22:47
th0rmisterx, and I use xubuntu myself, btw22:47
misterxworking at a friend's. installed her lucid when it was brand-new but the hardware's too old for unity22:48
misterxso i have to change22:48
misterxand since she didn't use the computer at all, i could easily do an installation from-scratch22:48
misterx…but not via ssh ;)22:48
th0rmisterx, I have used xfce for ages, even on new systems. I would rather reserve the system resources for real work than a pretty interface22:49
nyRednekok, how do i migrate a non-encrypted home dir to an encrypted one?22:49
chilukurgodfather, that could be a problem...22:49
misterxth0r: using xfce since the stopped working on gnome222:49
urgodfatherchiluk: it's a clean install, why wouldn't those update?22:49
misterxloved it, ever since22:50
misterxhave to admit that lxde/lubuntu is also very nice ;)22:50
chilukurgodfather, they wouldn't update if they are at the latest version.. urgodfather what does uname -a print out for you now.22:50
th0rmisterx, I have lxde installed and have played with it. But I have a theme (23oz glass) that is old as the hills, came from E16, and I would really miss it <smile>22:51
urgodfatherchiluk: i manually told it to upgrade those b/c they were in the "not upgraded" category22:51
chilukurgodfather, um ok... must have been something you did.22:52
chilukurgodfather, what are you using to do the upgrade? ubuntu software center? upgrade manager?22:53
th0rmisterx, http://imgur.com/evAkstX22:53
urgodfatherchiluk: it finished, did a uname -a and it says that its still on 3.8.0-19, but when it did the upgrade (through terminal) it said 3.8.0-2122:54
chilukurgodfather don't forget to reboot.22:54
chilukth0r are you keeping tabs on me?22:54
urgodfatherchiluk: just did it ;)22:54
th0rchiluk, no, should I?22:54
chilukth0r, maybe you should read backscroll and realize that I've spent almost 5 hours with this guy this afternoon22:54
urgodfatherchiluk: after reboot it says -21 like it should22:55
chilukyeah kernel upgrades are one of the few things that requires reboots22:56
chilukth0r have anything to add to this technical discussion ?22:56
urgodfatherchiluk: i hate that it only connected that one time22:57
th0rchiluk, haven't really kept up with it. Been in and out all day, though I did leave the laptop running22:57
chilukurgodfather, yeah that's not right..... try using your wifi on off fn-key combo to see if you can get it on ..22:57
chilukurgodfather, afaik bios sometimes gets in the way by selectively turning off the wifi card when you think it's on...22:58
th0rchiluk, I tend not to get into deep techie discussions any longer. I have lived and sailed on my sailboat for 12 years now, frustrations quickly go over the side...would hate to lose my computer22:59
chilukth0r++ hilarious...22:59
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chilukth0r are you posting that to reddit?23:00
Sniperm4ndoes anyone here have DHCP failover knowledge? trying to figure out something that relates to the dhcpd.leases file23:00
th0rchiluk, never gave it any thought to be honest23:01
urgodfatherchiluk: im gonna call it a night. thanks again for your help. im still gonna try that bios update (need to do through windows)23:02
chilukurgodfather, you haven't done that yet... shame on you... that was like 4 hours ago.23:02
chilukurgodfather, good luck...23:02
chilukurgodfather, so I take it this wireless card did not ship with the laptop right?23:03
urgodfatherchiluk: fn key works fine. yeah i know.. havent been on the winblows side plus ive been fixing like 6 other pc's (im a repair tech)23:03
chilukurgodfather, so did it ship with the machine or is it aftermarket?23:04
urgodfatherchiluk: no it came with a 6150 that the customer was having problems with on both sides23:04
urgodfatherchiluk: so, we're replacing it with an ubuntu certified wifi card23:05
chilukurgodfather, that's what I thought... you might have to add some acpi table entry stuff for grub to amke it play nice.23:05
chilukurgodfather, I'm 90% certain this is a bios problem at this point...23:05
Roy_Newbie_13-04how can i make an icon do this, was kind of working now im just lost23:05
Roy_Newbie_13-04xterm -e encfs ~/.encrypted ~/Private23:05
Roy_Newbie_13-04working on a different one now23:06
chilukurgodfather, night man. wifey just got home.23:06
urgodfatherchiluk: well, if you want, ill be on tomorrow with a status update23:06
chilukurgodfather, let me know... although I probably won't be around most of the weekend... still drop me a private message23:06
Roy_Newbie_13-04would it matter if root or roy ownership of the .desktop23:08
Roy_Newbie_13-04has*23:08
trokohello23:08
baalhello23:08
Guest88887anyone used qtfm?23:11
goddardhas anyone used qtfm or marlin?23:12
trokoproby23:14
fbdystangHi, working with iptables. Trying to do port redirects on a bridged network for virtualbox guests. The only command I can find is for "-nat" networked modes. Please advise. Can this even be done?23:14
satoniohola, tengo un ubuntu server al que solo puedo acceder por ssh. quiero redimensionar dos particiones (una hacerla mas pequeña y otra más grande). puedo acceder a el sin que ninguna de las particiones involucradas este montada.. alguna idea?23:15
wilee-nilee!es23:16
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.23:16
satonioouch sorry23:16
satonioi have a ubuntu server and i have only access through ssh. i want to resize two partitions (enlarge one and shrink another). i can access it without neither partitions mounted23:17
satonioany idea?23:17
th0rsatonio, is there any data on the partitions or are they empty?23:17
satonioit's not empty23:18
satoniothere isn't any valuable data but it will take time to recover if something fails23:18
satoniofrom backup23:18
th0rsatonio, if they aren't empty I don't think fdisk will work...I don't think it will preserve the data.23:19
th0rsatonio, is X installed on the server?23:19
fbdystangHi, working with iptables. Trying to do port redirects on a bridged network for virtualbox guests. The only command I can find is for "-nat" networked modes. Please advise. Can this even be done?23:21
trokofbdystang23:22
probyfbdystang, #networking23:23
probyfbdystang, ##networking23:23
satonioth0r, no it isn't23:23
th0rsatonio, that leaves out X-forwarding and gparted <smile>. I can think of no other options.23:24
satoniowhat if i install a x server and then use x-forwarding and then i remove the x-server?23:24
satoniodo you think it will cause problems in the future?23:25
fbdystangMeaning I should post it in the #networking forum?23:25
th0rsatonio, first, I am not sure gparted would be able to preserve the data, you would have to verify that with maybe someone else here. There is no guarantee that you could even get X running remotely....it isn't the easiest thing to do <smile>23:26
satonioanother idea is to forget about resizing and create a symlink to the other filesystem and place the data in the big partition, did you ever see a huge mysql database in the home partition?23:27
th0rsatonio, haven't worked much with mysql...but am amazed that the present day databases are even usable. I know how much trouble I had keeping a db of 200-300M intact in the old days <smile>23:29
mojtabaHi, I have downloaded this file but I do not know how can I install it?! AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.bin23:31
mojtabaDoes anybody know what should I do?23:31
clctomojtaba: why not use the repositories23:31
clctomojtaba: and you have to make it executable (chmod +x) and then run it ./AdbeRdr...23:32
mojtabaclcto: I want a pdf viewer which can highlight a pdf23:32
mojtabaI tried xournal, but I did not like it.23:32
clctomojtaba: what about the one built into FF23:33
mojtabaclcto: what is that? (I am newbie. :-P)23:33
clctofirefox23:33
mojtabaclcto: Can I highlight and annotate with it?23:34
mojtabahow can I open the PDF with it?23:34
clctomojtaba: menu>open file23:34
clctomojtaba: slash ctrl-o23:34
mojtabaclcto: It gives warning. This pdf document might not display correctly23:35
mojtabaOpen with different viewer!23:35
clctomojtaba: hmm well i told you how to run that file23:35
mojtabaclcto: I can run it, but I want to be able to highlight and annotate it.23:36
clctomojtaba: the adberdr file i mean23:36
wilee-nileemojtaba, I have used ocular23:36
wilee-nileeokular23:37
mojtabawilee-nilee: I will check it23:37
clctomojtaba: http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/adobe-reader-for-ubuntu.html23:37
mojtabaclcto: Thanks23:37
sector_Hallo23:37
ssokolowMy brother's computer is on 12.04 LTS but a recent update broke his nVidia proprietary drivers and now jockey-gtk errors out when I try to reinstall them. The one time I got a meaningful error out of it, it seemed to be saying "can't install nvidia-settings for 310 (experimental) because files in it conflict with the already-installed nvidia-settings for 304 (experimental)" but reinstalling 304 doesn't work either.23:39
mojtabawilee-nilee: okular does not have highlighting !23:39
clctomojtaba: and its kde, meh23:39
mojtabaclcto: I am checking your link.23:40
mojtabathanks23:40
th0rclcto, now now, we should be charitable to the performance challenged23:40
clctoth0r: what?23:41
th0rclcto, kde.....23:41
xyz_cursorhi guys.. I already checked google from bottom to top without finding anything to help me... my problem is with WebcamStudio.. it crashes when loading... this is the output: http://pastebin.com/651TXN5s23:41
wilee-nileemojtaba, It does, I don't use kde, however found okular to be usable.23:41
wilee-nileehttp://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdegraphics/okular/okular.pdf23:41
mojtabath0r: What do you mean by that to clcto?23:42
clctomojtaba: kde is bad is what he means23:42
th0rmojtaba, it was a small joke...that apparently only I got <smile>23:42
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clctolol23:43
mojtabath0r: lol23:43
xyz_cursorcan someone take a look at this output to see what is going on? http://pastebin.com/651TXN5s23:43
clctodont use pastebin23:43
xyz_cursorwhy?23:43
clcto.com23:43
xyz_cursorwhat do you want me to use then?23:44
clctoads suck23:44
clctogist.github.com is one :)23:44
submanI have many different desktop environments installed and I don't seem to be able to see them all at my login screen.  There doesn't seem to be a way to scroll through them all.  Is there an alternative that will?23:44
neytirihi ima getting a dpkg error when i try to install some software23:44
OerHekspaste.ubuntu.com is nice23:44
clctosubman: need to add it to gdm i believe23:45
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submanclcto, I don't know what that means23:45
xyz_cursorclakes_, there u go https://gist.github.com/anonymous/560265023:45
computa_mikexyz_cursor: The issue reported is that jnidispatch can't be found in the path.23:46
clctosubman: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1346623:46
xyz_cursorcomputa_mike, but how can I fix it?23:46
computa_mikexyz_cursor: I founf this on google : http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/opensuse/12.3/x86_64/libjnidispatch-3.4.0-4.1.1.x86_64.html23:46
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computa_mikexyz_cursor: are you on 32 or 64 bit?23:46
submanclcto, No, that is not the problem.  They are all listed.  There are too many and they run off the screen.  You cannot scroll them.23:46
xyz_cursor32 bit23:47
xyz_cursorcomputa_mike, 3223:47
clctosubman: ah, dk then23:47
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harriswho knows what a makey makey is23:48
computa_mikexyz_cursor: I'll have a look around and see where that file could / should be23:48
xyz_cursorok23:48
xyz_cursor:)23:48
xyz_cursorthank you23:48
th0rsubman, you can install as many display managers as you like (kdm, gdm, lightdm, etc) and just change /etc/X11/default-display-manager (unless the church of ubuntu has changed that)23:48
OerHeksharris is it a ubuntu program or what?23:50
thecodeischaosseems like window managers are basically like themes/skins.... but change physics instead of colors23:50
somsipOerHeks: seems to be an arduino-type thingy23:51
submanthanks th0r23:52
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computa_mikexyz_cursor: how did you install webcam studio?23:53
xyz_cursorit comes in a tar file... you decompress it and then do a java -jar webcamstudio.jar23:54
computa_mikexyz_cursor: so - where did you get it from?23:54
xyz_cursorfrom the official website :(23:54
xyz_cursorlet me paste the address23:54
computa_mikehttp://code.google.com/p/webcamstudio/ ??23:55
xyz_cursorhttps://code.google.com/p/webcamstudio/downloads/list23:55
xyz_cursoryeah computa_mike23:55
computa_mikexyz_cursor: I'l just trying the deb file - but I'm not sure I'll be able to run it - i don't have a webcam23:56
xyz_cursorI see :( probably it will run23:56
xyz_cursorbut the deb is the old pckg23:56
computa_mikexyz_cursor: Hi - I just installed the deb file here, and launched it - I get a start menu23:59
ohnonotagainWhenever I attempt to mount my partition, I get an error saying *unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'* .  If I mount it with *-t ext4* it works.  I think I accidentally changed the header to Linux LVM with sfdisk, but even after setting it back to 83 from 8e, I get this error.  Any help/suggestions?23:59
xyz_cursorcomputa_mike, yeah I can get it too.. that is the one I used previously... but the 0.61 version is not working somehow23:59
computa_mikebut the 0.61 is an alpha?23:59

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