[00:00] <kvothetech> Riley_88: no idea then ...i'm stil on grub legacy but you should be able to edit a file like 10-custom somewhere and putin 3.8
[00:02] <usr13> kvothetech: grub2's default is /etc/default/grub
[00:02] <kvothetech> usr13: kk wel i'd put 3.8 in there then
[00:03] <usr13> kvothetech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/
[00:03] <dr_willis>   it may be a good idea to read up on the grub2 config guides. befor messing with that file. ;)
[00:03] <dr_willis> and  make backups of anything you change.
[00:03] <Riley_88> brb
[00:03] <fractaline> is it best to get rid of kernels not in use?  i noticed i still have many
[00:03] <usr13> kvothetech: I'm wrong, it's   /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[00:03] <kvothetech> usr13: dr_willis I'm just fine with menu.lst and my old grub :)
[00:04] <dr_willis> old grub iss very annoying in many ways.. grub2 is just annoying in differnt ways
[00:04] <dr_willis> but grub2 can do some amazeing things once you learn it
[00:04] <kvothetech> dr_willis: like? every time i've tried it i ended up at basically an unbootable system...grub1 i just put in what i want in my menu.lst and it goes.
[00:05] <dr_willis> kvothetech:  grub2 can boot iso files.. i use that feature all the time.. its also smarter about what it can boot and with a lot of the newer raid/efi/other new things.. its needed
[00:05] <dr_willis> theres amany more  reasons the grub devs basicvally moved to grub2 ... a
[00:06] <dr_willis> the way menu.lst was formated.. was also very.. weird in many ways
[00:06] <lahwran> if I understand correctly, 10.04 desktop lost support last month. are the repos still fully online, though?
[00:06] <Riley_88> still didnt do it
[00:06] <lahwran> also, where can you find archives of very old ubuntu repos?
[00:06] <Riley_88> usr13 is there a way to just remove the kernel from the lis
[00:06] <usr13> Riley_88: What did you try?
[00:06] <kvothetech> dr_willis: i'm sure theres good reasons too and i'll be forced to some time just..haven't hit that wall :) just like udev and persistant naming..which is'nt persistant but besides that point hs alot of advantages people just hate it
[00:06] <dr_willis> lahwran:  eventually they will get moved to some archive.ubuntu.com server
[00:07] <dr_willis> lahwran:  not sure if they have moved yet or not..
[00:07] <Riley_88> what u had before
[00:07] <Riley_88> list
[00:07] <usr13> Riley_88: WHat version of Ubuntu is it?
[00:07] <Riley_88> 13.04
[00:07] <lahwran> dr_willis: so I could still install and use 7.10 if I wanted to, I'd just have to change /etc/apt/sources.whateveritis in order to do so?
[00:07] <Riley_88> it shows 3.9.2 and 3.8.0-21 generic
[00:07] <lahwran> obviously it'd be crazy to connect such a machine to the internet, but it could be done
[00:07] <Riley_88> then 3 8 19
[00:07] <dr_willis> lahwran:  you could.. but i dont see the reason in using  a 5 year old distro
[00:08] <lahwran> nostalgia, of course :p
[00:08] <kvothetech> lahwran: why would you want to ?
[00:08] <Riley_88> i can get it to boot to lightdm on 3.9.2 but my keyboard and touchpad dont work
[00:08] <lahwran> I just said.
[00:08] <dr_willis> !EOL
[00:08] <dr_willis> the last url there. mentuons the archiuve servers
[00:08] <lahwran> ah, thanks
[00:08] <usr13> Riley_88: what does uname -r say right now?
[00:09] <Riley_88> 3.8.0-19 generic
[00:09] <lahwran> dr_willis: the current situation is I'm mucking with a 10.04 desktop that I don't have time to upgrade, and I just need to test something real quick
[00:09] <Riley_88> i have to manually select it in advanced options
[00:09] <usr13> Riley_88: Which kernel is the one that is broken?
[00:09] <Riley_88> 3.9.2 a
[00:09] <Riley_88> and 3.8.0-21 generic
[00:10] <usr13> Riley_88: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-extra-3.8.0-21-generic
[00:11] <Riley_88> says its not installed
[00:11] <Riley_88> i had to reinstall 13.04
[00:11] <loganlee> can u run linux kernel inside windows?
[00:12] <mdfe> loganlee, You can use virtualbox to run a linux vm from within windows
[00:13] <usr13> Riley_88: pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg  #Send resulting URL
[00:14] <fractaline> is it best to get rid of kernels not in use?  i noticed i still have many
[00:14] <fractaline> sorry for repeat
[00:15] <Riley_88> usr13 http://dpaste.com/1170349/
[00:15] <Birdo> hey everyone I'm having nvidia optimus video driver issues - after installing bumblebee I boot into a command line. Before doing this the xubuntu loading screen had graphic glitches w/ nouveau - and after installing bumblebee I could actually see it, so I think this might be some sort of conflicting driver issue?
[00:15] <anonymou1> How can I create an Ubuntu USB installer from FreeBSD?
[00:15] <gordonjcp> anonymou1: dd if=/path/to/ubuntu/iso of=/path/to/usb/stick
[00:16] <Riley_88> anonymou1 i believe freebsd supports dd
[00:16] <Birdo> btw I'm on Xubuntu 13.04
[00:16] <Riley_88> so u could probably just dd the iso to the flash drive
[00:16] <anonymou1> Ah they're hybrid images?
[00:16] <anonymou1> That makes my life easier.
[00:17] <gordonjcp> they are
[00:17] <anonymou1> Haven't used Ubuntu in a few years.
[00:17] <anonymou1> Interested to see where it's at/
[00:18] <Riley_88> usr13 did u get that
[00:18] <kvothetech> usr13: nsahoo any luck
[00:18] <Riley_88> i should be able to just delete the section
[00:18] <Riley_88> right
[00:18] <kvothetech> Riley_88: yes but like i said i don't use grub2 so no idea...i think you have to run update grub too
[00:19] <kvothetech> Riley_88: bit like lilo but....again could be wrong
[00:19] <mdfe> Riley_88, if you sudo update-grub it should scan for the kernel images and build the boot list
[00:20] <Riley_88> i tried that
[00:20] <mdfe> probably one the kernel images is broken if it's not being added correctly
[00:21] <mdfe> Riley_88, you're holding shift to get a boot menu or letting it autostart?
[00:22] <Birdo> Do I need to blacklist nouveau to get nvidia drivers working? This doesn't automatically happen when you install nvidia drivers?
[00:25] <Riley_88> usr13 are u still there
[00:29] <newbuntu> anyone know why my ubuntu amd64 ISO only has 1 folder? called efi?
[00:30] <dr_willis> you are looking at the boot partition on it perhaps?
[00:30] <dr_willis> instead of the actual datga partition?  ive nevver really tried to mount the iso image lately
[00:30] <newbuntu> opened with ultraISO and says disk is fill 695mb but only EFI folder
[00:30] <dr_willis> how are you examing the iso file?
[00:30] <dr_willis> sounds like ultraiso is looking at it incorectly perhaps..
[00:30] <newbuntu> with ultaISO
[00:31] <dr_willis> check the md5sum of the iso file. test it in virtualbox perhaps to verify its good
[00:31] <newbuntu> ah great idea virtualbox
[00:31] <newbuntu> tyvm
[00:31] <dr_willis> what ubuntu release is that iso?  ubuntu 13.04 is larger then 695mb
[00:31] <newbuntu> 12.04
[00:32] <newbuntu> i tried 13.04 but have major sound issues
[00:33] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[00:34] <baordog> Hey, I'm having a crash where Ubuntu loads weird random pixels
[00:34] <baordog> I get as far as the login screen
[00:34] <baordog> and it tries load, and produces the random pixels
[00:34] <baordog> It's on an old Janky computer
[00:34] <baordog> any ideas?
[00:34] <TheLordOfTime> A netsplit happens when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki
[00:34] <TheLordOfTime> (sorry, ubottu's down!  :/)
[00:35] <newbuntu> enjoy the show lol
[00:35] <YoMomma> N00b question - Where does e-mail get it's time stamp (Sending client, SMTP Server, POP/IMAP Server)?
[00:35] <dr_willis> newbuntu:  for hdmi sound in 13.04 i had to use the    .9 kernel from a ppa.. i  got the info from askubuntu.com
[00:36] <newbuntu> so that is a known issue then not just me? lol
[00:36] <dr_willis> newbuntu:  its a well known issue with HDMI audio. a fix is supposed to be getting released.. i just got sick of waiting and used the  maintreak kernel from kernel.ubuntu.org i think
[00:36] <dr_willis> mainstream
[00:37] <newbuntu> thats great tyvm i might just try 13.04 again
[00:37] <newbuntu> seemed faster than 12.04
[00:37] <baordog> Anyone have an idea about my random pixels? I'm sure someone has seen something like this before
[00:37] <dr_willis> all i did to 'fix' it was dosnload 4 .deb files from that kernel site and dpkg -i *   them.. ;) but im not sure how that will affect updates.. so  thats why i dont knwo if an official update has came out yet or not
[00:38] <dr_willis> baordog:  what is your video chipset? that will be the #1 thing to determine
[00:38] <baordog> I can't tell. Computers old. Like I said, it used to work.
[00:38] <dr_willis> lapci will tell you
[00:38] <dr_willis> 'lspci'
[00:38] <baordog> That would be great if the operating system would load
[00:39] <baordog> but like I said, I just get random pixels
[00:39] <dr_willis> !text | baordog
[00:39] <baordog> !text
[00:39] <dr_willis> use the text mode or recovery mode to get to a console and use the command lspci
[00:39] <dr_willis> its at the grub menu..
[00:39] <baordog> ok
[00:40] <dr_willis> or boot any old live cd that worked.. and use the command
[00:40] <baordog> but why would my chipset matter? It's worked for months
[00:40] <dr_willis> if one of those does work.. see what modules the thing is using and what video driver
[00:40] <baordog> Because the login screen does load
[00:40] <baordog> I can feel it trying
[00:40] <dr_willis> for all we know - it could be a dieing video card or cable...  you will have to do some tests to see
[00:41] <dr_willis> if you get it to the console.  install the ssh server. so you can ssh in to it while its running and look and try things
[00:41] <baordog> Well that would suck. The thing has integrated graphics
[00:41] <baordog> That much I remember
[00:43] <dr_willis> you coudl also try any older kenels listed in the grub menu and see  if any of the old ones work.. if an old kernel does work. but a newer one does not.. that would point to a driver issue
[00:44] <baordog> ok I'm in the recovery menu
[00:44] <baordog> where do I switch on text mode?
[00:44] <baordog> root?
[00:44] <dr_willis> recovery should have some item to get to a shell. i dont have its menus menoruised
[00:45] <dr_willis> i tend to just use text mode. ;)
[00:46] <baordog> nvidia corporation c61 [Geforce 614OSE nforce 430]
[00:46] <baordog> That appears to be the video card
[00:47] <dr_willis> you may want to try the 'nomodeset' option when booting if the gfx is currupted.. or if you feel lucky jusst try instlling the 'nvidia-current' drivers
[00:47] <dr_willis> safest would  be to try 'nomodeset' then the addational-drivers tool
[00:47] <baordog> what's that?
[00:48] <dr_willis> unless you have installed the drivers in the past from nvidia.com using their .run drivers..
[00:48] <newbuntu> ty "dr_willis" virtualbox boots the ISO so must have been the way ultraiso was displaying it. thanks again!
[00:48] <dr_willis> look for 'nomodeset' on the ubuntu wiki page /askubuntu.com  it will show how to tell grub to use the nomodeset option
[00:48] <baordog> is there a command to get back to grub?
[00:49] <dr_willis> at the grub mennnu - you hit 'e' to edit the boot item and  change the text to read  'quiet splash nomodeset'   then boot the  entry
[00:49] <dr_willis> newbuntu:  im not even sure why you were looking at it with ultraiso ;)
[00:50] <baordog> right
[00:50] <baordog> but now I'm in the root terminal thing. How do I get back?
[00:50] <dr_willis> you mean how to you 'reboot'  ?
[00:50] <dr_willis> the reboot command.. reboots the pc..
[00:51] <dr_willis> or try exit to get back to the recovery menu
[00:51] <baordog> that did it
[01:00] <MysticalBurrito> Hello?
[01:00] <SparkySparkyBoom> MysticalBurrito: hello
[01:00] <MysticalBurrito> Could someone direct me to a chat where I can get help with my phone?
[01:01] <MysticalBurrito> I've been searching for one for the past half hour
[01:01] <SparkySparkyBoom> MysticalBurrito: if this channel is dead, your best bet for this sort of question is #freenode
[01:01] <raijin> MysticalBurrito: we are talking about phones in #eligius
[01:01] <MysticalBurrito> Thanks for the help
[01:02] <fractaline> which phone MysticalBurrito ?
[01:05] <dr_willis> theres the #android channel also.
[01:06] <dr_willis> theres been some netsplits in the last hour ot 2 also.. so a lot of the channels may be split off
[01:10] <FogHornLegHorn> hi, can someone help me out with the powermanagment options.. or how do i add extra options. i dont want it to hibernate when i shut the lid and there are no options for this that i see.
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> FogHornLegHorn, settings-power has a lid close dropdown.
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> name your release and desktop as well, if you do not find this.
[01:12] <dr_willis> you may need to have a swap partion larger then your rram size (by a little bit) in order for some of the options to appear
[01:14] <FogHornLegHorn> wilee-nilee, im must not have that program, is it gtk, and what is the name of the program that runs it so i can apt-get it
[01:14] <dr_willis> gtk is not a desktop or release....
[01:15] <dr_willis> what does lsb_release -a say about your ubuntu version, and what desktop are you running
[01:15] <FogHornLegHorn> me? i know im asking him if the option is in a gtk menu
[01:15] <FogHornLegHorn> or terminal thing
[01:15] <dr_willis> for Unity  - it should be in the top right settings menu area.
[01:15] <dr_willis> under system settings
[01:16] <FogHornLegHorn> i have gnome
[01:16] <dr_willis> unity uses gnome/gtk so everything is in a gtk menu... ;)
[01:16] <FogHornLegHorn> unity noty
[01:16] <dr_willis> there should be some 'system settings -> power' or similary named item
[01:20] <dr_willis> bbl
[01:23] <yofun> eh
[01:23] <yofun> ops
[01:29] <Merovingians> does anyone know if the applications configurations in ufw support multiple interfaces? or does everything at that level need to be done with iptables?
[01:48] <wab> #hlfs
[01:55] <histo> Merovingians: It appears it may according to the man pages
[01:56] <histo> Merovingians: By default, ufw will apply rules to all available interfaces. To  limit
[01:56] <histo>        this,  specify  DIRECTION on INTERFACE, where DIRECTION is one of...
[01:56] <Merovingians> I can see that using the command line interface you can use ufw to specify that information
[01:57] <Merovingians> but if I am writing a config file for each of the applications, I am not finding anything regarding how to do that within an applications file
[01:57] <Merovingians> it looks like I would have to switch to shorewall if I wanted that level of configuration, or move to iptables itself without ufw...
[02:00] <James_Epp> So I am trying to make a pxe server for starting ubuntu installs (just a personal project). I have successfully booted the desktop installer with NFS. I would now like to get the alternate installer to get booted. I am seeing many tutorials which are using a 'linux' file for their KERNEL. I just downloaded the alternate.iso but there is no 'linux' file. Where can I find this kernel?
[02:01] <dr_willis> could be the docs are old, ive seen the kernel file called vmlinuz and other variations also
[02:01] <James_Epp> Disregard my last question, guys. Found the file.
[02:01] <dr_willis> ;)
[02:02] <usr13> !alternate | James_Epp
[02:02] <dr_willis> ubuntu keeps triming away more and more with each release. ;)
[02:02] <James_Epp> usr13: I am using 12.04 alternate. Is it just not supported, or has the team completely quit making them in general?
[02:03] <dr_willis> as of 12.10 i think the alt cd is gone.
[02:04] <James_Epp> adding on to that.....the reason I am using the alternate is because on some machines (not even old machines) I get the following result: I boot the cilent into pxe and nfs just fine....but when we are just about to get into the xorg stuff, it gives me this error: http://goo.gl/uS1sM
[02:06] <Braden`> Hello
[02:06] <Braden`> I just installed Ubuntu 13.04 fresh, and whenever it tries to load xwindows, I just see a blinking cursor and nothing else
[02:07] <Braden`> It doesn't continue to load
[02:07] <Braden`> I just see a blinking cursor
[02:08] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[02:08] <Braden`> The system boots fine
[02:08] <Braden`> Its only after it gets done loading everything else
[02:08] <OerHeks> this occurs before login?
[02:09] <Braden`> yes
 I am using ubuntu-server as a home server with nginx installed. I want to be able to setup subdomains and be able to access them with a domain that I have. I am using a dyndns service that always points to my dynamic ip, and I have a cname record subdomain from my purchased domain to my dyndns domain. That works just fine, but when I try to setup a second subdomain in the nginx conf, I always get the same 'server
[02:09] <brian_petersen> ' config area. Ho
[02:09] <OerHeks> then try the nomodeset option, see if it works
[02:10] <Braden`> Ok
[02:10] <Braden`> Thanks
[02:11] <criten> Anyone here have experiance with ubuntu and Shuttle computers?
[02:14] <Braden`> This document tells me the options I need, but doesn't tell me which file to edit to add the options to...
[02:17] <James_Epp> My append line for my pxe boot is as follows: APPEND netboot=nfs nfsroot=192.168.1.188:/srv/tftp/0/ubuntu/12.04/alternate/i386 initrd=0/ubuntu/12.04/alternate/i386/initrd.gz . But, when I am booting the client, I get to the point where it goes to fetch the ubuntu release stuffs from the USA mirror, and then the display goes blank with just its purple background and idles. Seems like a weird place to stop. Does anyone know why?
[02:20] <Maelstrom> Lulz
[02:23] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> i added the ppa for drawers, i made one but i want to delete it and make a different style, how do i delete a made drawer? ... completly
[02:28] <coolstar> I'm trying to setup Ubuntu 13.04 in Virtualbox and I get the error "The headers for the current running kernel were not found."
[02:29] <coolstar> What the package I should install via apt-get?
[02:29] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> just figured it out my self ... rm /home/roy/.local/share/applications/DVD\ Movies\ Related.desktop
[02:30] <coolstar> oh wait nvm. it was just warning
[02:30] <coolstar> it succeeded setting up :)
[02:32] <NamedJohn> could anyone enlighten me as to what is wrong with this bash snippet? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5672854/
[02:36] <subman> I'm going to ask a very strange question here but I need help from my fellow Ubuntu users.  I am trying to get an old Mac G3 working on the internet but can find little help.  anyone know of an active IRC channel that could help?
[02:37] <imsky> can i create a clean jail/chroot-like environment and then package it as a .deb?
[02:37] <coolstar> subman: are you trying to boot ubuntu on that Mac G3?
[02:37] <trollboy> My parents are stuck on the "Low resolution, your graphics card could not be detected, you will have to configure manually" screen... Apparently Ctrl + Alt + F1 is not working, nor is shift on boot.. suggestions?
[02:37] <imsky> rather, can i create a clean jail/chroot-like environment so that i can package it as a .deb? :)
[02:38] <trollboy> Hitting Ok at the prompt dumps them to a black screen with a X shaped mouse cursor
[02:38] <subman> coolstar, not at the moment, just trying to get some help
[02:39] <coolstar> subman: if the Mac G3 is running ubuntu, this is the place to ask. If it's on OS X, try #mac
[02:39] <subman> coolstar, I understand that.  I was just asking for help in finding that resource.  All my other machines run Ubuntu.  Just asking some bros to help.,
[02:39] <ilyekkakai> how do I launch CompizConfigurator from the terminal? I messed something up and now I have no dash and no window management functionality (no move/resize/etc.)
[02:40] <ilyekkakai> What is the command to launch Compiz Configurator?
[02:40] <subman> coolstar, and of course #mac is not valid
[02:40] <coolstar> #mac-dev
[02:41] <coolstar> subman: ##mac
[02:41] <subman> coolstar, no
[02:42] <coolstar> subman: ##mac works here
[02:42] <subman> coolstar, yeah, me talking to me
[02:44] <ilyekkakai> How do I launch the compizconfig settings manager from terminal?
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> ilyekkakai, try ccsm
[02:47] <camilo_> freenet on ubuntu 13.04 install help
[02:52] <ilyekkakai> I've lost my unity dash.. how do I re-install it?
[02:52] <camilo_> I need install freenet on ubuntu 13.04 helpme please
[02:52] <somsip_> !gq | camilo_
[02:57] <dr_willis> whats freenet anyway?
[02:58] <dr_willis> !find freenet
[02:58] <clcto> o/ o- o/
[02:58] <clcto> o/ o_ o/
[03:00] <coolstar> guys, loving Unity in Ubuntu 13.04 :)
[03:00] <coolstar> (I hated it back in 12.x and 11.x :P)
[03:00] <clcto> coolstar: use notion
[03:02] <camilo_> no problem... resuelto
[03:04] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> i need to run "sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M" every time the computer is rebooted once wireless is ready. What is the best file to add that too?
[03:04] <dr_willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  one way . put the command in /etc/rc.local
[03:05] <dr_willis> no need for the sudo in rc.local  just the command..
[03:05] <jamesst20> Hi
[03:06] <dr_willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  you may want  it to wait a few seconds, untill it does the command also..    'sleep 60'   then  'iwconfig ......'
[03:07] <jamesst20> Hi
[03:07] <jamesst20> I have an Alienware m17x R4 and I have some issues with my sound
[03:07] <jamesst20> it is very low
[03:10] <DJHenjin> logging in as a user then sudo su to root only counts as 1 user per session right?
[03:10] <dr_willis> you might want to check the forums and askubuntu.com for that  exact brand/make jamesst20
[03:10] <dr_willis> DJHenjin:  i dont think so. and you shouldent use 'sudo su'   use 'sudo -i'
[03:10] <DJHenjin> sudo -i ?
[03:11] <dr_willis> DJHenjin:  run the 'who' command and see
[03:11] <dr_willis> yes.. do NOT use sudo su, or sudo bash, or other weird ways to get a 'root shell'   the proper way is   sudo -i
[03:11] <DJHenjin> apparently root is logged on through pts 2-9
[03:11] <dr_willis> !sudo
[03:11] <jamesst20> dr_willis alright thanks
[03:12] <sagat> boa noite portugues
[03:12] <sagat> ?
[03:12] <dr_willis> !pt
[03:12] <DJHenjin> is there a way i can kick off all the 'root' users
[03:12] <dr_willis> use the kill command and kill their shells... perhaps...
[03:12] <dr_willis> makes me wonder why they are on there.
[03:12] <DJHenjin> yeah, me too
[03:13] <dr_willis> ps ax | less    may show what they are doing..
[03:13] <dr_willis> could be root shells you have left hanging in the past.. since the last reboot
[03:14] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> if i put "sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M" inside "/etc/rc.local" wont it expect the user password and hang?
[03:15] <dr_willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  i said you dont need 'sudo' i n   rc.local
[03:15] <dr_willis> its allready running as root....
[03:15] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> \oh thanks
[03:15] <dr_willis> its like the 'last' service script that gets ran when the system boots up
[03:16] <dr_willis> you MIGHt want to use that 'sleep 60' to make it wait a minet for the system to get all up to speed.
[03:17] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com may know a better way to  set that rate setting... im not sure why you are even needing to do that command
[03:18] <DJHenjin> root      1604  0.0  0.0  14988   956 tty6     Ss+  May15   0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty6
[03:18] <dr_willis> DJHenjin:  thats the LOGIN: command running on tty6
[03:18] <dr_willis> one for each tty.. is normal
[03:18] <DJHenjin> ok, so is it waiting for someone to enter a password or something?
[03:18] <NarcTix> ^^ it aint using any resources either
[03:19] <dr_willis> DJHenjin:  its waiting for someone to LOGIN...
[03:20] <DJHenjin> ok also have this root      5011  0.0  0.0  20364  2340 pts/3    Ss   May15   0:00 /bin/bash
[03:20] <dr_willis> thatgs a root shell.. doing somthing
[03:20] <dr_willis> pts/3 is a pusedo terminal.. like a xterm , or some background process
[03:20] <NarcTix> /bin/bash is probably relatesd to an ssh login
[03:21] <dr_willis> i dont even rember where i learned that at...
[03:21] <dr_willis> ;)
[03:21] <dr_willis> stuff i havent had to mess with in years and years..
[03:21] <ska> What option do I fee apt-get upgrade so that my configurations don't change?
[03:21] <ska> apt-get -y or apt-get -n ?
[03:21] <dr_willis> ska:  wht configurations are you refering to?  it shouldent change any customised configs without asking
[03:22] <ska> dr_willis: I want to do it unattended
[03:23] <NarcTix> what happened to kill -9? :)
[03:23] <dr_willis> NarcTix:  it died. ;P)
[03:23] <NarcTix> 9> 15
[03:23] <benwa> hey there
[03:24] <benwa> I have a question for using raid (mdadm) in ubuntu
[03:24] <benwa> any expert on that around?
[03:24] <dr_willis> i try to not teach beginners about 'kill -9' ;)  they get overzelous
[03:24] <NarcTix> not an expert but have experience
[03:24] <benwa> basically I have 3 hdd (1 500GB and 2 250GB)
[03:24] <benwa> I'll like to build a raid 1 with those
[03:24] <benwa> what is the right way to do it?
[03:25] <benwa> so I did a raid-o with the 2 250GB
[03:25] <dr_willis> !raid
[03:25] <deckard> hello. What is the basic difference between Xubuntu and XFCE. they look so similar to noobs
[03:25] <benwa> and then a raid 1 with the 500GB and the raid-0
[03:25] <dr_willis> wonder if the bot is alive.. ;)
[03:25] <NarcTix> benwa do you want one of the 250gb as a spare?
[03:25] <dr_willis> deckard:  xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce
[03:25] <benwa> it works fine until I restart then mdadm complains the array is degraded
[03:26] <dr_willis> deckard:  so its xfce + a few ubuntu changes..
[03:26] <DJHenjin> benwa, you are opening yourself up to a huge risk if either of the 250's dies, and then the 500 dies, or the other way around
[03:26] <deckard> why do i see, xfce, xubuntu and ubutu ?
[03:26] <benwa> NarcTix I want 500GB mirrored
[03:26] <deckard> is xfce use the least resources ?
[03:26] <dr_willis> deckard:  see where? be more detailed.
[03:26] <deckard> as option to login
[03:26] <benwa> well I have 3 drives with 1Terao total
[03:26] <deckard> brb
[03:26] <dr_willis> deckard:  the lightest full featured desktop is 'lubuntu' which uses lxde
[03:26] <benwa> I just want a raid-1 of 500GB
[03:26] <NarcTix> benwa so you want raid 0
[03:27] <dr_willis> deckard:  they could be identical..  or use differnt default settings..
[03:27] <dr_willis> i dont use  xfce.
[03:27] <benwa> raid-1 is the duplcating and raid-0 is concatenate right?
[03:27] <deckard> brb, sorry baby cry
[03:27] <Morph4me> raid 0 is performance ( striped) raid 1 is mirrored
[03:27] <benwa> so my thinking was concatenate the two 250GB
[03:27] <benwa> to get a virtual 500GB
[03:27] <benwa> and mirror that with the other 500GB drive
[03:28] <benwa> makes sense?
[03:28] <dr_willis> do you really need a raid that badly? ;) its amazeing the # of people i see in here with raid issues
[03:29] <benwa> well I wanna use this for backup so yeah I'd like to think it's gonna be safe
[03:29] <DJHenjin> soo, i killed all sshd proccesses using ps aux|grep sshd then re logged in my 2 sessions from here, and there are still 7 'root's in who
[03:29] <benwa> maybe I should go for a virtual partition
[03:29] <kvothetech> dr_willis: raid can be useful...raid 5 is really nice for servers for example...
[03:29] <dr_willis> dont forget a raid setup .. is not an excuse to  NOT make backups
[03:29] <dr_willis> ;)
[03:29] <benwa> could I make the two 250GB drives look like a virtual 500GB?
[03:29] <NarcTix> benwa I think you would have to put them into a LVM to make that array
[03:29] <benwa> without using raid-0?
[03:29] <kvothetech> benwa: lvm
[03:29] <dr_willis> kvothetech:  i just seem to see people in here using raid for the wrong reasons way to often
[03:29] <benwa> NarcTix how does that work?
[03:30] <Morph4me> just mirror he 2 250s and keep the 500gb for storage
[03:30] <Morph4me> the*
[03:30] <benwa> will I get double speed like with raid-0?
[03:30] <kvothetech> dr_willis: ah ...yeah there's some good reasons to use it a lot of reasons lvm or etc would be better
[03:30] <NarcTix> benwa I work with LVM and it still scares me lol. Google :)
[03:30] <Guest97234> I have my old gconf configurations for global shortcuts. Any way to still use gconf-editor in 13.04 I have gnome-shell and session-fallback installed
[03:30] <benwa> Morph4me I need 500GB for backup 250 is too low
[03:30] <estudiante> hola
[03:30] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> why can i find "DVD Styler" under the dash?
[03:30] <estudiante> kdfghj
[03:30] <DJHenjin> use the 500 GB for the backups then benwa
[03:31] <benwa> I wanted it mirrored otherwise it's not a safe backup
[03:31] <benwa> anyways I'll give a shot to lvm
[03:31] <dr_willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  was that a linux app you installed?   if you use the search featur eit should show up
[03:31] <DJHenjin> get another 500GB then,
[03:32] <benwa> DJHenjin
[03:32] <benwa> DJHenjin you buy me one? I'll give you my 2 250GB for free ;)
[03:32] <dr_willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  ot try launching it from a terminal.   use tab completion perhaps to get the name    'dvd<tab>'
[03:32] <Blue1> I need to set a timezone in mysql -- anyone help?
[03:32] <DJHenjin> benwa: No.
[03:33] <benwa> DJHenjin you're not helping...
[03:34] <dr_willis> 250gb  hard drives? i think i got a few in the bottom of the closet.
[03:34] <benwa> any knows what's the perf on lvm? is it like a regular drive or like raid-0?
[03:35] <NarcTix> benwa you need to create an LVM of your disks then create the raid. TBH thats above support. So try google.com
[03:35] <dr_willis> i imagine its not going to be as fast as a raid setuo
[03:35] <benwa> k thanks
[03:35] <benwa> I'll figure
[03:36] <dr_willis> the raid url the bot mentioned may be worth reading
[03:36] <deckard> ty dr_willis , one last question. Which is lighter, Xubuntu or XFCE?
[03:37] <NarcTix> ^^
[03:37] <sere> xubuntu is xfce
[03:38] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> helping a friend here this is his nick, mine is Prock
[03:38] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> he didnt even know of irc
[03:38] <DJHenjin> also, I have to figure out why my ubuntu 12.04 amd64 server is crashing almost daily at random times. running last shows reboot   system boot  3.2.0-38-generic
[03:38] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> but he is wanting to dump windows for good
[03:38] <stanley_robertso> hi all
[03:38] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> one more thing i got to do is...
[03:39] <NarcTix> djhenjin, check dmesg for hardware issues, check messages for system issues
[03:39] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> with windows i set up a shared folder so his wii can play movies over the network
[03:40] <DJHenjin> NarcTix: under /var/log there is no 'messages/ file
[03:40] <sid> hi
[03:40] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> the wii only can do smb, but in the software center i dont see anything smb related to what i think i need
[03:40] <NarcTix> ubuntu seem to have disabled messages in syslog these days!
[03:41] <mwd5650> Roy, check out samba for smb under linux
[03:41] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> can someone help me set up a smb share with ubuntu 13.04 ,ubuntu being the host
[03:41] <deckard> so my video games will get best performance with lubuntu?
[03:41] <dr_willis> wii has some sort of  video player? not seen that.. or is this a hacked wii?
[03:41] <dr_willis> deckard:  depends on the game. and how tight your system is on   resources
[03:41] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> its a hacked wii
[03:42] <NarcTix> was it Debian or Ubuntu who decided to remove alot of the usual stuff from syslog?
[03:42] <deckard> its not tight i just dont care of desktop affects and i assume anything not orking on those affects will go to the game running better
[03:42] <Guest78478> hey
[03:42] <deckard> but i am ignorant
[03:42] <dr_willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  for samba, you can setup a samba share by rightclicking on the video directory and tellint it to make a guest share..
[03:43] <dr_willis> deckard:  if you are using steam, theres a pakcage that makes a 'steam' desktop that you select at the login screen that just runs steam. to maxamize resources for your games
[03:43] <deckard> not steam
[03:43] <deckard> buy ty
[03:44] <dr_willis> you coudl always just select  a very minimal window manager only for the most resources for your games . like openbox or jwm
[03:44] <dr_willis> but thats geting a bit extreme
[03:44] <NarcTix> lightdm =1
[03:44] <NarcTix> +1
[03:45] <NarcTix> Handles most desktops too
[03:45] <goddard> how can i disable ctrl+p on ubuntu?
[03:45] <dr_willis> if your system is so skimpy on resources that  lubuntu is  causing your game to slow down... well..  just using jwm  will only help a little  i imagine.
[03:45] <DJHenjin> NarcTix: syslog doesnt seem to have anything different immediately before it shows the 'kernel [ 0.000000 ] blah blah blah
[03:47] <NarcTix> djhenjin so no signs of harware issues (apart from heat or a faulty psu)
[03:47] <Blue1> anyone know how to set a default time zone in mysql?  this didn't work:  SET GLOBAL time_zone = 'America/Phoenix';
[03:47] <DJHenjin> and dmesg and dmesg.0 dont show anything either
[03:47] <coolstar> anyone know the place to discuss app development on Linux with GTK?
[03:47] <DJHenjin> although in syslog, there is literally nothing for 3 minutes before the kernel stuff.
[03:47] <DJHenjin> ill be back in a half hour
[03:48] <dr_willis> Blue1:  perhaps ask in #mysql
[03:48] <NarcTix> djhenjin if your log says that youve been pwned lol
[03:48] <DJHenjin> says what NarcTix
[03:48] <NarcTix> ill be back in a half hour :)
[03:49] <DJHenjin> i have to drive somewhere,
[03:49] <dr_willis> isent there some 'more verbose logging';    for kernel logs in /etc/sysconfig  /
[03:49] <DJHenjin> it doesnt say that in my log...
[03:49] <NarcTix> ^^
[03:51] <utfans05> friggen windows 7 cd wont boot, had to do a dd if=windows cd of=usb drive, that will work correct?
[03:51] <nkhodyunya> Hi, i have a program listed here http://paste2.org/wUIEVaMU After parent process die, I have a zombie process which should be cleaned out by init process. If I understand properly, SIGCHLD signal should been sent to parent before adopted by init. How init handle such zombie processes?
[03:53] <utfans05> friggen windows 7 cd wont boot, had to do a dd if=windows cd of=usb drive, that will work correct? I'm pretty sure it will just need someone to reassure me.
[03:53] <NarcTix> utfans05 that wont work
[03:53] <utfans05> NarcTix: why not? im making an exact image of the disk to a usb drive
[03:54] <Blue1> thanks dr_willis
[03:54] <goddard> how can i disable ubuntus ctrl p?
[03:54] <NarcTix> utfans05 well none of your paths are correct and whats the cd in the middle?
[03:56] <benwa> NarcTix it looks like it worked thanks for the input
[03:56] <benwa> I'm off g'night all
[03:56] <dave_> NarcTix, diff pc, itd dd if=sc0 of=/dev/sd1
[03:56] <dave_> but looks like the cd is wanting to work now
[03:57] <NarcTix> was it your device paths dave?
[03:57] <NarcTix> cool benwa
[03:58] <dr_willis> sc0  thats a cdrom device?
[03:58] <NarcTix> sr0 is
[03:58] <dave_> yes
[03:59] <dr_willis> seen a cd be called /dev/sr0    or /dev/cdrom    but not sc0
[03:59] <dr_willis> ;)
[03:59] <dave_> thats what it was when i did a lsblk
[03:59] <dr_willis>    and  sd1  ras also a typo?
[03:59] <dr_willis> was also a typo?  since it should be like   sda sdb sdc or somthing
[03:59] <dave_> yeah, this is a mini, hard for me to type on
[03:59] <dr_willis> typos with  the dd command  - can be... deadly
[03:59] <dave_> normally im giving the advice not getting it
[04:00] <Guest97234> how do I make custom shortcuts in 13.04 under dconf
[04:00] <NarcTix> script all those deadly typo commands
[04:00] <dr_willis> Guest97234:  i seem to recall askubuntu.com having some good info on that..   i looked it up like 2 months ago..
[04:01] <Guest97234> dr_willis: thanks will check it out. I googled wih no luck
[04:02] <NarcTix> some sort of DdOs
[04:03] <utfans05> yeah its /dev/sr0
[04:03] <NarcTix> or is that the master of command
[04:04] <dr_willis> utfans05:  be sure you got all your dd options right befor you tell it to do it ;)
[04:04] <utfans05> so it should be dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/dev/sdd1
[04:04] <NarcTix> toast > /dev/null
[04:05] <NarcTix> utfans05 yeah thats tgood
[04:05] <dr_willis> NarcTix:  top list of commands.. ;)    dd, busybox, and ssh...      and busybox can replace dd and ssh i think, ;P
[04:05] <Morph4me> utfans05 you can check that with  > df-h < as well  as long the udf volume of win 7 is mounted
[04:05] <dr_willis> err.. you DONT want sdd1
[04:05] <dr_willis> that will image the cd to the first PARTITION on the usb.. not to the 'drive' of the usb
[04:05] <NarcTix> dr_willis Ive never used busy box
[04:05] <dr_willis> and youmay want to ask in #windows if this will even work with windows7
[04:06] <Morph4me> as example sending mine to media would be like this using dd  >>>  sudo dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/media/morph4me/win7-64bit.iso
[04:06] <dr_willis> NarcTix:  more likely you never noticed you were using it. ;)
[04:06] <dr_willis> dont forget to use the 'bs=4M' option with dd. or else it may be very very slow
[04:06] <utfans05> dr_willis: so i need to send it to sdd
[04:07] <Morph4me> true dr_willis good point
[04:07] <dr_willis> utfans05:  if you are 10000% sure your usb  flash drive is /dev/sdd
[04:07] <utfans05> dr_willis: yeah it is
[04:07] <NarcTix> dr_willis your probably right. Alot of new stuff doesent break and need hacking into these days.
[04:07] <dr_willis> and you may want to ask in #windows if you even can dd a win7 dvd to usb.. and it will work
[04:08] <dr_willis> NarcTix:  i belive  the normal initrd stuff uses it  for just a moment or 2 ;0 i havent looked into it in ages
[04:09] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> i know i got the ip and folder name correct, i cant seem to get the smb share working, can anyone help
[04:09] <dr_willis> i played with some busybox - mini linux disrto - years ago for  a fun weekend..
[04:09] <dr_willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:   you did set it up as a guest share?
[04:09] <NarcTix> dr_willis Ive only ever experienced controlling initramfs until I started building Gentoo kernels but never came across busybox
[04:09] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> yes
[04:09] <dr_willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  or if ysing a samba user name.. you did give the user a samba password via 'sudp smbpassed -a username'  ?
[04:10] <dr_willis> oops  'sudo smbpasswd -a username'
[04:10] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> but also the wii makes it to where u have to use the user account, and i know that info is correct
[04:10] <dr_willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  so you aer connecting as 'guest' or some 'username'  ?
[04:10] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> that i did not do
[04:10] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> i want to use user name
[04:11] <dr_willis> then you must set a samba password via ------------>    'sudo smbpasswd -a username'
[04:11] <dr_willis> you can even setup the  special 'home' share in /etc/samba/smb.conf where each user can be shareing their own home directory automatically if you wanted to
[04:11] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> now does this have to the same pass as the user's pass?
[04:12] <dr_willis> samba password does NOT have to be the same as the users login password
[04:12] <dr_willis> i always make the 2 the same however. ;)
[04:12] <dr_willis> but im on a home lan.
[04:13] <NarcTix> dr_willis bad habit if samba gets exploited sos that users account
[04:13] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> sudo: smbpassed: command not found
[04:13] <dr_willis> NarcTix:  yea.. my dog may haxor my system.
[04:13] <dr_willis> then you must set a samba password via ------------>    'sudo smbpasswd -a username'
[04:13] <dr_willis> typos  ;)
[04:14] <NarcTix> dr_willis Im lookinf from a sys-ops perspective ;)
[04:14] <dr_willis> im all about 'casual home user' these days..
[04:14] <dr_willis> wife, grandkids. and the dog..
[04:14] <dr_willis> the 4 year knows more about accessing the net then the wife...
[04:15] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> password took, but wii still fail to sonnect
[04:15] <dr_willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  see if your nautilus file manager can connect to the share.
[04:15] <dr_willis>   smb://ip.of.the.server/sharename
[04:15] <dr_willis> hit ctrl-l in nautilus to enter the address
[04:16] <dr_willis> ctrl-L
[04:16] <woo> hello
[04:16] <NarcTix> dr_willis your safe unless you have a wireless pace maker (imagine the DoS) and skynet has been in progress for years qbit processors are the key
[04:16] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> if i stop the share and restart will i have to sudo smbpasswd -a roy again?
[04:16] <nevyn> Roy_Newbie_13-04: no.
[04:16] <dr_willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  that would make samba rather useless  if you had to...
[04:17] <dr_willis> business with 10000 samba users... haveing to re-add their password every day.. ;)
[04:17] <dr_willis> there is  some way to sync the login password and the samba password.. but its been years since ive done that
[04:18] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> do i do "smb://192.168.2.13/Videos" in terminal Videos is located "/home/roy/Videos"
[04:18] <dr_willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  in your FILE MANAGER window...
[04:18] <dr_willis> ctrl-L to show the  address entry field.
[04:19] <dr_willis> bash dsent know what to do with 'smb://'   nautilus does
[04:19] <dr_willis> at least you had the sanity to not use a space in the share name,. ;)
[04:20] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> i know no spaces to begin with
[04:20] <dr_willis> also try the  address   'smb://127.0.0.1/Videos'     and see if any other pc on the lan can see the shares.
[04:20] <NarcTix> always use -
[04:20] <dr_willis> its really really annoying when all the other pcs see a share.. then the one you want to see it... dosent
[04:20] <dr_willis> and i definatly have seen a share not work/appear... then a few min later.. it pops up. ;)
[04:21] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> natulas OR Files off the launcher
[04:21] <woo> dr_willis: I am thinking to use a pie for server control for hundreds of ubuntu clients.  as a noob what advice could you help me out with using lanscape to manage?
[04:21] <Chamunks> anyone know a good tutorial on eggdrop here?
[04:21] <dr_willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  those are both the file manager.. that is 'nautilus'
[04:21] <sarahS> hi everyone…
[04:21] <Chamunks> i dont even know if its decently simple to run in ubuntu.
[04:21] <dr_willis> woo controll on what way?
[04:21] <sarahS> I'm trying to make a directory writable by apache in a responsible manner
[04:22] <dr_willis> Chamunks:  theres should be 100000's f web sites out there with Eggdrop guides.. i perfer to use 'znc' myself
[04:22] <sarahS> and when i do chown -R www-data ./tmp
[04:22] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> at teh bottom Browser Network then Windows Network , then oops something went wrong
[04:22] <NarcTix> sarahs you configuring Apache directly or using a panel?
[04:22] <sarahS> to a directory, it changes the owner…but apache still can't  write to it
[04:22] <sarahS> NarcTix: ssh
[04:22] <Chamunks> dr_willis, i need the bot functions more then the bouncer functions.
[04:22] <woo> dr_willis: I want to use a raspberry pi as ubuntu server and laptops as clients.  1.) does ubuntu server support pi 2.) what is the best place to find documentation and admin support for Lanscape?
[04:23] <dr_willis> Chamunks:  i bet theres an #eggdrop channel also
[04:23] <Chamunks> well i dont need it i want to learn about it.
[04:23] <Chamunks> I'll look around
[04:23] <Chamunks> thanks dr_willis
[04:23] <NarcTix> sarahs so whats the owner and group on the directories and whats the apache procs running at modules or fast cgi?
[04:23] <dr_willis> woo ubuntu server runs 'services'  theres not really  thing to  'support pi'   since the pi ccan run linux..  and access the services  ubuntu dosent care  if it a pi or a android phone. ;)
[04:23] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> Browse Network ... Windows Network ... WORKGROUP oops something went wrong
[04:24] <Joshuame13> I just downloaded Linux for the first time!
[04:24] <sarahS> NarcTix: the owner is www-data which i believe is the user apache is running as
[04:24] <dr_willis> woo i have no idea on what landscape even is or does.
[04:24] <sarahS> as far as the second question…i haven't the foggiest idea
[04:24] <Braden`> I am using Ubuntu 13.04, and I started xwindows.  I see the desktop, and if I right-click, I get the appropriate context menus; however, I don't see any task bar along the top or side (I don't know what it is called in linux)
[04:24] <NarcTix> sarahs the owner needs to be the web user and the group needs to be www-data
[04:24] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> say my name if u helping me, chat scrooling fast
[04:24] <woo> dr_willis: thank you.  dr_willis, from my understanding is that it controls updates from the cloud.
[04:25] <dr_willis> woo - hmm.  nevver used it. I just  do small home lans.
[04:25] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> Unable to access location
[04:25] <somsip_> sarahS: apache should be run by www-data, but can easily check with 'ps aux | grep apache' and look in the left most column
[04:25] <sarahS> NarcTix: ok…by web user, you mean the server? apache2?
[04:25] <dr_willis> bb in a bit...
[04:25] <Roy_Newbie_13-04>  dr_willis ^
[04:26] <somsip_> sarahS: is the directory you are trying to change in the webroot, or somewehre else. Eg: /var/www/website/tmp, or /home/sarah/tmp ?
[04:26] <NarcTix> srahs depends on what your apache processes are running as if there apache modules will be apache2 if you run them as fast cgi would be under there web user
[04:26] <sarahS> somsip_: yes, it is a subdirectory of the webroot
[04:27] <Braden`> Anyone?
[04:27] <sarahS> actually
[04:27] <somsip_> sarahS: and the parent dirs allow www-data to have access?
[04:27] <sarahS> somsip_:  /var/www/website/tmp would be accurate
[04:27] <NarcTix> sarahs fast cgi over apache modules any day easier to trouble shoot for one
[04:28] <sarahS> somsip_: read access
[04:29] <somsip_> sarahS: maybe a dump of ls -la /var/www and /var/www/website would help/ Can you pastebin?
[04:30] <NarcTix> sarahs whats the problem again, Ive had a few spliffs :)?
[04:30] <sarahS> hahah
[04:30] <sarahS> I'm trying to NOT chmod 777 a directory
[04:31] <woo> sarahS: in tmp?
[04:31] <somsip_> sarahS: my usual approach would be to chgrp -R www-data {dir} and chmod 770 {dir} But this is not always ideal
[04:31] <sarahS> correct
[04:31] <somsip_> sarahS: you told me not tmp (as in /tmp) but just a folder called tmp. Correct?
[04:31] <sarahS> somsip_: thanks..will try that
[04:32] <deckard> hello. what is the command to install lubuntu?
[04:32] <somsip_> deckard: suo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop IIRC
[04:32] <deckard> is it sudo apt-get install lubuntu-dekstop?
[04:32] <NarcTix> sarahs then the easiest way is to run your users as fast-cgi rather than apache modules , that way the web-user is what the process(dir) owner then you dont have to set world permissions
[04:32] <deckard> ty
[04:32] <deckard> i can install it with xubuntu and try it?
[04:32] <somsip_> deckard: I believe so
[04:32] <deckard> ty
[04:33] <deckard> what is iirc mean?
[04:33] <sarahS> NarcTix: that sounds like something I will have to read up on.  apache modules I already know.  Thanks for the suggestion
[04:33] <somsip_> deckard: If I Recall Correctly
[04:33] <deckard> oh lol
[04:33] <deckard> ty
[04:33] <deckard> i have it
[04:33] <dr_willis> you can install most all the  *-desktop packages  that way deckard
[04:33] <Braden`> I am using Ubuntu 13.04, and I started xwindows.  I see the desktop, and if I right-click, I get the appropriate context menus; however, I don't see any task bar along the top or side (I don't know what it is called in linux)
[04:33] <deckard> ty
[04:34] <woo> Braden`: are you new to gnome3?
[04:34] <dr_willis> Braden`: 3d video card drivers may not be working right
[04:34] <Braden`> dr_willis:  Is there a way to disable 3d?
[04:34] <Braden`> Because I really don't want all of the fancy stuff anyways
[04:35] <dr_willis> id suggest getting 3d working instead
[04:35] <Braden`> I actually used the 2d version before they stripped it out in 12.11
[04:35] <Braden`> Too much overhead
[04:35] <Braden`> This is for a development machine
[04:35] <dr_willis> there is no unity2d in 13.04
[04:35] <Braden`> How do I use gnome then?
[04:35] <sarahS> somsip_: http://pastie.org/7919018
[04:35] <dr_willis> gnome shell? thats not unity
[04:36] <woo> Braden`: the top bar is what you use to save files or control the selected window
[04:36] <Braden`> dr_willis:  I know, how do I switch to Gnome?
[04:36] <dr_willis> !gnome-shell
[04:36] <somsip_> sarahS: RoR?
[04:36] <Braden`> woo:  Oh sorry, I didn't see your message
[04:36] <sarahS> somsip_: correct
[04:36] <Braden`> woo:  Yes, I would like to use Gnome 3
[04:37] <dr_willis> install gnome-shell and select it at login
[04:37] <Braden`> ok
[04:37] <Braden`> Thank you
[04:37] <sarahS> somsip_: installing redmine
[04:37] <woo> Braden`: unity and gnome3 are a lot alike
[04:37] <Braden`> woo:  Yea, but they unfortunately cut support for 2d unity :(
[04:37] <dr_willis> lubuntu is the lightest desktop
[04:37] <NarcTix> desktops ahhhhh the next part of my Linux certification wants me to configure and troubleshoot x11 (Ive worked in tty or ptty)
[04:37] <somsip_> sarahS: sarahS there looks nothing wrong with this. Is there already a file in tmp that is not chown www-data that apache is unable to open for write?
[04:38] <dr_willis> Braden`:  unity3d uses llvm for low end systems.. but it can be buggy
[04:38] <Braden`> How do I enable that?  I could give it a try...
[04:38] <dr_willis> its enabled by default
[04:39] <Braden`> oh
[04:39] <dr_willis> if you want gnome shell.. then install gnome shell
[04:39] <Braden`> Well, I am using the nvidia drivers provided by the package manager.  How do I fix the current problem with the task bar not showing up?
[04:39] <Braden`> If I can fix that, and determine whether the system is responsive enough to use Unity, I will use that
[04:39] <Braden`> Otherwise, I will switch to gnome
[04:40] <dr_willis> run nvidia-settings   be sure the drivers are working Braden`
[04:40] <NarcTix> I still am a big fan of xfce but kde is getting my vote at the moment (was a long time hater of kde)
[04:40] <dr_willis> unity  USES GNOME... you mean  gnome-shell
[04:41] <Braden`> Right, gnome shell
[04:41] <Braden`> Semantics
[04:41] <Braden`> ftw
[04:41] <corehook> re
[04:42] <Braden`> Oh
[04:42] <Braden`> Which driver should I use for virtualbox?
[04:42] <Braden`> (assuming ubuntu is the guest os)
[04:42] <NarcTix> bradeb whats the host?
[04:43] <Braden`> nvidia-settings says "ERROR:  The control display is undefined"
[04:43] <nevyn> NarcTix: why does it matter.
[04:43] <Braden`> NarcTix:  Windows 8
[04:43] <nevyn> Braden`: that's cause a guest in virtualbox doesn't have a nvidia card
[04:43] <Braden`> nevyn:  I would assume because some OS's allow promiscuity to the adapters
[04:43] <AlbertoM> Hi everybody i need some help  i have instlled some software like chromium skype and comodo antivirus for linux (I know i dont need but i want to protect the machines whith windows in my home and it dont consumes too much resourcees)  i allso instll teamviwer when i reestart the machine i see something of win e pop up and i dont want nothing related whith wine how can i comprobe i donth ave win e?
[04:43] <NarcTix> ^^ why does it matter because he asked what driver duh!
[04:43] <AlbertoM> Excuse me my english are too bad
[04:43] <nevyn> NarcTix: 14:46 < Braden`> Which driver should I use for virtualbox?
[04:44] <Braden`> nevyn:  That is what I just thought of, which is why I mentioned I am using virtualbox.  I probably need to use a different driver
[04:44] <NarcTix> braden search on microsoft technet
[04:44] <nevyn> he's running a guest ubuntu in virtualbox the correct driver will be for the virtualbox framebuffer hardware.
[04:44] <Braden`> Let me check the package manager
[04:44] <NarcTix> the drivers are still windows drivers
[04:45] <dr_willis_> virtuabox? you should have said that eralier. ;)
[04:45] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> i have system-config-samba now and that isnt helping, not even on my own machine
[04:45] <dr_willis_> you install the  vbox guest addations and you may want to double check the 'use  host 3d' option is enabled in teh options for vbox
[04:45] <nevyn> Braden`: you need to install guest additions.
[04:45] <nevyn> NarcTix: stop.
[04:45] <NarcTix> The host needs to install the guest modules
[04:46] <Braden`> nevyn:  I already installed them.  I discovered I am missing the guest dkms package though
[04:46] <dr_willis_> for running in vbox. you may seriously want to use lubuntu instead of unity or gnome-shell
[04:46] <Braden`> NarcTix:  Already installed
[04:46] <Braden`> dr_willis:  What is the difference?
[04:46] <Braden`> If he can stay online long enough... :/
[04:46] <dr_willis_> lubuntu is the ligthtest full feature desktop
[04:47] <Braden`> dr_willis:  What do you mean "light"?
[04:47] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> dr_willis_ i have system-config-samba installed now, and still wont show inder Files / Browse Network
[04:47] <dr_willis_> uses the leaset resources
[04:47] <dr_willis_> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  some toimes you just have to fight with samba. i dont have any magic answers.. see if other pcs on the lan can see the shares perhaps?
[04:47] <Braden`> hmm
[04:47] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> cant
[04:48] <AlbertoM> Hi can any body help me  i want to know if have traces of win e in my system
[04:48] <Braden`> Well, I appreciate the responses and time that everyone has given me.
[04:48] <dr_willis_> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  i tend to just enable the home shares. give samba passwords to my users. and restart.. and it works
[04:48] <AlbertoM> i expplain the case above
[04:48] <NarcTix> braden what error means your missing dkms (needed for building some kernel mods)
[04:48] <dr_willis_> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  you may want to double check that all firewalls are off for testing
[04:48] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> how do i do that?
[04:49] <dr_willis_> !firewall
[04:49] <dr_willis_> windows has its own options for firewalls..
[04:49] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> do i have to be root for ufw
[04:50] <dr_willis_> i tend to share videos over DLNA/UpnP these days instead of samba. so i havent fought with samba in ages either.
[04:50] <mong> AlbertoM: "sudo apt-get purge wine" , followed by "rm -rf ~/.wine", ought to remove it as far as i know
[04:50] <NarcTix> Where as alot of firewalls are built on Linux or Unix
[04:50] <dr_willis_> AlbertoM:  there  might be a few windapp.desktop files in your .config dir you may need to remove by hand.. but those wont affect  anything
[04:52] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> firewall is off
[04:53] <NarcTix> AlbertM yeah find / -iname wine | xargs rm -rf /dev/null
[04:53] <NarcTix> missed the > /dev/null
[04:53] <corehook> guys how i can send mail from console ?
[04:53] <corehook> ubuntu 12.04
[04:53] <histo> corehook: with an smtp server setup or a relay
[04:54] <corehook> i am about command
[04:54] <histo> corehook: if you want to use pop or imap you can use mutt
[04:54] <corehook> i have smtpd server
[04:54] <histo> corehook: On the same box?
[04:54] <NarcTix> corehook sendmail, not used in ages but man sendmail
[04:54] <corehook> smtpd is other my server
[04:54] <corehook> in*
[04:55] <corehook> да в пизду
[04:55] <NarcTix> youu can use sendmail as a mail client you dont need a local server
[04:56] <Relaxation> Just thought I'd ask, is anyone here a C programmer, or familiar with C?
[04:57] <dr_willis_> i find C pointers too pointy..
[04:57] <dr_willis_> ;)
[04:57] <nevyn> Relaxation: just ask.
[04:58] <nevyn> !ask
[04:58] <NarcTix> how familiar Im familiar with programming and have done a socket client and server in c but not much else in c
[04:58] <SparkySparkyBoom> !patience
[04:59] <Relaxation> Dr_Willis, you're always in here haha. And my question wasn't specific, other than what can I do to practice. I didn't make it past my Data Structures class in C so I'm very disappointed, trying to study C in my free time now.
[04:59] <Relaxation> I'm reading the K&R book over C atm
[05:04] <kiyoura> Relaxation: "Algorithms in C" by sedgewick
[05:04] <Relaxation> Does it talk about data structures?
[05:04] <kiyoura> yes
[05:04] <Relaxation> Thanks. I'll move onto that after I finish the K&R book.
[05:05] <kiyoura> that's what i did
[05:06] <Relaxation> I find C to be very challenging.
[05:06] <NarcTix> pointers are the hard part of c but also its power inho
[05:07] <NarcTix> *imho
[05:07] <kiyoura> pointers are not just exclusive to C. pointers are what separate people who 'like to code' from 'programmers'.
[05:07] <gdi2k> Hi, I'm looking for help with DKMS (r8168 drivers) - is this the best place or is there a better channel, luke ubuntu server?
[05:07] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> will simba auto start, or how do i confirm the server is open\\
[05:08] <NarcTix> kiyora and its exploits and reverse engineering that seperates people who like to code from them who get paid
[05:09] <kiyoura> NarcTix, same thing as "programmers" ...
[05:09] <kiyoura> if you understand the memory map both of those things are fairly possible
[05:10] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> any simba experts here, or lots of experince
[05:10] <Braden`> How do I make it so that it displays what is loading on system startup instead of a splash screen?
[05:10] <NarcTix> Im currently under the influence of canabis and alcohol so cant go to in depth
[05:10] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> while im waiting to see if so, im doing a retart, ill be back
[05:10] <NarcTix> see cant even spell cannabis right
[05:11] <histo> Braden`: disable splash and quiet from default options in /etc/default/grub
[05:12] <corehook> when i start some bash script from console its work
[05:12] <NarcTix> braden do it in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[05:12] <corehook> but dont work when start with cron
[05:12] <corehook> which may be a popular error in the startup script?
[05:13] <histo> corehook: which users cron are you starting it with?
[05:13] <NarcTix> corehook whats your shebang in your script?
[05:13] <histo> Braden`: then sudo update-grub after you remove them from there
[05:14] <NarcTix> by shebang i mean #!
[05:14] <ajith> HI how to share applciation installed using wine in ubuntu ltsp 12.04
[05:14] <Relaxation> TBH, pointers are fairly easy concept of C. In fact, rudimentary. I've exercised some quite complex data structure algorithms that are pretty hard to comprehend / follow. But understanding a simple pointer has never been a problem for me.
[05:14] <Braden`> Ok, thank you
[05:14] <ajith> I am unable to find these applciation in clients when i login
[05:15] <Relaxation> I understand C, up until we start looking at data structures, like constructing a graph / implementing it.
[05:15] <NarcTix> relaxatin and kiyoura what educational upbringing have you had?
[05:15] <histo> ajith: ~/.wine/drive_c/
[05:15] <Relaxation> Then things become hard for me to follow. I think it's because I don't understand the algorithm to begin with.
[05:16] <corehook> dev user
[05:16] <kiyoura> NarcTix 0 'formal' i am self-taught
[05:16] <corehook> shebang? what is ?
[05:16] <NarcTix> kiyoura :)
[05:16] <Relaxation> I'm studying computer science in college. The curriculum here follows C, and it is no joke at all.
[05:16] <ajith> ok after going in to how do i share..I am unable to find the installed applciation in client
[05:17] <histo> !ot Relaxation
[05:17] <histo> !ot | Relaxation
[05:17] <NarcTix> corehook by shebang whats the first line of your script #!
[05:17] <dr_willis_> hmm., well users install wine apps.. so they wouldent be 'system wide'
[05:17] <ajith> how can i install them system wide???
[05:18] <dr_willis_> no idea.. not really ever tried to do that.
[05:18] <NarcTix> corehook if like you said it runs in your terminal but not from cron what shell are you using?
[05:18] <Relaxation> Actually, I made straight A's throughout my whole school career. Then I got to computer science in college. Most challenging thing I've experienced in the world of Academia. Failed my first class this last semester. Discouraging, putting all your time and resources into something, only to fail. It's odd. To me failing a class reflects not trying enough, not studying, etc.. But this was not the case at all for me.
[05:18] <histo> ajith: perhaps #winehq can be of some assistance
[05:18] <dr_willis_> ajith:  you could make a script that calls wine /path/to/some/systgemdir/theappinstaller.exe  so each user can install it when they want to
[05:19] <dr_willis_> when wine runs a windows app. its makes a .wine dir for the user to keep the wine stuff in.
[05:19] <dr_willis_> you normally dont share that .wine directory system wide
[05:19] <cyphase> is there anyone here with an htc one? are you having issues seeing all of the phone's internal storage when plugged in to your computer? did you, and you fixed it?
[05:19] <ajith> okay ..
[05:20] <clcto> cyphase: do you have android sdk installed?
[05:20] <histo> cyphase: are you using mtp or mass storage mode
[05:20] <NarcTix> no one shares there wine celar ~/.wine :)
[05:21] <dr_willis_> i recall a few apps in the past that used wine, that installed 'system wide' but i bet they were heavaly tweaked and took a bit of work to get going
[05:21] <Senor> where can I get source of login relevent stuff ?
[05:21] <dr_willis_> Senor:  be a bit more specific.
[05:21] <corehook> yep
[05:21] <NarcTix> dr_willis windows apps system wide serious fail
[05:22] <dr_willis_> NarcTix:  i seem to recall Picassa and  other apps doing that.
[05:22] <dr_willis_> they used their own secial wine.. as does that netflix-on-ubuntu package.
[05:22] <dr_willis_> thats the latest tool that use the wine system wide trick that i can think of
[05:23] <NarcTix> yeah like a wine binary cant think of the name for it
[05:23] <Relaxation> Does anyone know why Ubuntu only cares about the first 8 characters of your password?
[05:23] <dr_willis_> 'cares' ?
[05:23] <histo> Relaxation: Can you elaborate on that?
[05:24] <dr_willis_> you want to enforce longer required passwords?
[05:24] <Relaxation> No
[05:24] <histo> Relaxation: then it cares about all the characters
[05:24] <Relaxation> Lets say your password is X amount of characters. Ubuntu only needs the first 8 to log in
[05:24] <Senor> dr_willis_ : I have one problem with init process , I have no root account set ,as I boot from non-distro kernel
[05:24]  * dr_willis_ is going to have to go on again about how it pays to be verbose and detailed on irc... ;)
[05:25] <NarcTix> My names NarcTix and Ive just realised im an alcoholic as Ive just reached to take a drink from my deoderant for the 5th time good night.
[05:25] <Relaxation> If password X is > 8, you still only need the first 8 to log into Ubuntu. So, from my perspective, it only "cares" about the first 8 characters.
[05:26] <dr_willis_> or when you are setting the password - its only using the first 8 to begin with...
[05:26] <Ben64> Relaxation: i don't think that is true
[05:26] <Aspire-Revo-User> Can anyone recommend a go partition cloning application like CloneZilla?
[05:26] <lifeboy> Trying to set up qemu-kvm on 12.04 64bit server, but get this error: -bash: sudo setcap cap_net_admin=ei /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64: No such file or directory
[05:26] <lifeboy> anyone that can shed some light on this pls?
[05:26] <Relaxation> Ben64: try it for yourself.
[05:27] <Ben64> just did
[05:27] <dr_willis_> Aspire-Revo-User:  why not clonezilla? ;)
[05:27] <Relaxation> And?
[05:27] <Ben64> my password was already >8, and 8 doesn't work
[05:27] <Aspire-Revo-User> dr_willis_: It is not working, freezing up and not doing what it suppose to do. Watched several YouTube video on how to use it and I am following the instructions as best i can.
[05:27] <Relaxation> You did something wrong then... I know for a fact it only needs 8 characters to log in.
[05:27] <lifeboy> I have never used setcap...
[05:28] <Ben64> Relaxation: or more likely... you're wrong
[05:28] <gdi2k> Relaxation, using first 8 chars does not work - what makes you think this?
[05:28] <Relaxation> Are you sure you counted the characters properly?
[05:29] <mong> Relaxation: i have just tested this with my password as well, and cannot reproduce what you describe
[05:29] <Relaxation> Wait hang on.
[05:29] <Relaxation> Brb, need to make sure I'm telling this correctly.
[05:30] <dr_willis_> sudo passwd billgates   moneybagXXXXXXXXX
[05:30] <dr_willis_> login billgates
[05:30] <nevyn> renato_: that's complete garbage for a long time.
[05:30] <dr_willis_> too bad im not on a ubuntu box to test...
[05:31] <Ben64> he left
[05:31] <nevyn> yeah I know.
[05:31] <nevyn> renato_: sorry wasn't for you.
[05:31] <cyphase> clcto, i thought it might the sdk, but i only just now tried it on another computer :/, and i do see it all. how do i get around that? histro, there's no way to choose between mtp and mass storage on the phone.
[05:31] <Ben64> but i made a new user on my server with 20 character password - "12345678901234567890" and nothing less than the full 20 worked
[05:31] <mong> perhaps he's using DES encryption or something
[05:31] <clcto> cyphase: can you logcat?
[05:32] <nevyn> Ben64: the old unix crypt hash was only good for about 8 chars
[05:32] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> under htop i see "smbd -F" three times, is that enough to have smb working, thats all the smb related processes i can see, or at least sound like
[05:32] <Relaxation> NVM, it's been changed. On older versions though, it only "cares" about the first 8 characters.
[05:32] <nevyn> Relaxation: not since long before ubuntu existed.
[05:32] <Ben64> were you on warty warthog
[05:32] <nevyn> this wasn't true on debian potato.
[05:33] <dr_willis_> on Angry Amobea? :)
[05:33] <nevyn> tho crypt was an option if you chose to disable md5 passwords (which you shouldn't do)
[05:33] <Ben64> i thought they were sha?
[05:33] <nevyn> they are now.
[05:34] <Relaxation> Well apparently it use to use DES encryption , which is what I was referring to.
[05:34] <nevyn> Ben64: so there was crypt (which was limited length) then md5 (which was reaonably broken) then sha.
[05:34] <dr_willis_> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  if you really want to dig deep into samba  - thers several books  on it in the repos under the 'samba-doc' package..  but they may be a little out of date. but they do have trouble shooting guides.. and theres askubuntu,com that may have some more up to date trobuleshooting guides
[05:34] <mong> mine uses a captain crunch decoder ring
[05:34] <dr_willis_> mong:  i use rot-13 ;)
[05:35] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> k
[05:35] <deckard> is it totally safe to run sudo apt-get autoremove?
[05:35] <dr_willis_> deckard:  it prints oiut what it will remove so you can say yes or no...
[05:35] <nevyn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypt_%28C%29
[05:35] <mong> i do so from time to time, and have not broken anything
[05:35] <deckard> ty
[05:36] <deckard> it wants to remove only "linux-image-generic
[05:36] <deckard> " safe/
[05:36] <deckard> ?
[05:36] <dr_willis_> thats an old kernel sounds like
[05:36] <deckard> so just leave it?
[05:36] <deckard> safe than sorry
[05:36] <dr_willis_> i doubt it will matter much
[05:36] <deckard> ill lve then, ty
[05:36] <dr_willis_> !info linux-image-generic
[05:36] <deckard> much help from you ty
[05:37] <dr_willis_> just a meta-package looks like.
[05:37] <dr_willis_> removeing it wont really remove anything
[05:38] <deckard> is sudo apt-get upgrade safe?
[05:38] <jmurrib21> how can i make ubuntu 13.04 to boot faster. It takes 2 minutes to start up from an USB external HDD in a brand new pc hp p2-1334
[05:38] <histo> jmurrib21: well shouldn't take that long but i'd assume it's due to disk speed
[05:39] <Ponch0> I just had a crash something about IBus version being too old?
[05:39] <Ponch0> Also some messages about GPG keyring
[05:40] <jmurrib21> i used to run ubuntu 12.10 on a laptop and I liked it how fast it boot and tasks were done fast. with the same external usb hdd
[05:40] <Ponch0> DbDriver: permission denied "passwords"
[05:40] <Ponch0> wth is going on
[05:40] <dr_willis_> external usb   and 'fast' are really oppites...
[05:40] <jmurrib21> see
[05:40] <dr_willis_> 13.04 boots in like 10-20 sec here on my ssd drive..
[05:41] <nevyn> jmurrib21: don't run it from a usb disk.
[05:41] <dr_willis_> if the same HD is slower.. there might be some usb driver bug/issue going on..
[05:41] <jmurrib21> do you think the UEFI might have something to do with it?
[05:42] <aeon-ltd> dr_willis_ from on button to usuable desktop?
[05:45] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> i cant browse the network but i can use file manager and put in ip and it works but not on the wii?
[05:45] <jmurrib21> what is /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 some times when I boot it says that device needs to be mounted or skip mounting?
[05:48] <GinTonicool> hi guys,when chrome playing videos ,the sound always quiver ,shiver ,what's wrong ?
[05:48] <somsip_> GinTonicool: in youtube?
[05:49] <GinTonicool> anywhere
[05:49] <somsip_> GinTonicool: run it with google-chrome --audio-buffer-size=2048
[05:49] <somsip_> It's a known bug FITNR
[05:49] <GinTonicool> somsip, how do that in gnome desktop
[05:50] <somsip_> GinTonicool: What does that use? Menus or shortcuts?
[05:51] <GinTonicool> i do not know your meanings
[05:52] <somsip_> GinTonicool: I have never seen gnome desktop. How do you launch Chrome? Do you click on a shortcut on the desktop, or do you use a menu?
[05:52] <dave_> dr_willis_, yeah, the usb stick didnt work at all. i think im going to create an iso using windows since my dvd finally worked and then have it stored on a backup drive that i have
[05:53] <GinTonicool> i put a chrome icon on desktop and gnome panel ,i double click the icon
[05:53] <histo> GinTonicool: alt+F2 will bring up a run dialog or run his command in a terminal
[05:53] <dave_> dr_willis_, and the os's are on 2 completely seprate drives so i can manager which one boots by selecting the drive :D
[05:54] <somsip_> GinTonicool: then I guess you can right-click the icon and edit the command to include --audio-buffer-size=2048
[05:54] <GinTonicool> i check it now ,
[05:55] <aarcane> how can I get a list of all currently recommended packages, and which of the installed packages recommends them?
[05:56] <kubanc> hellow! Is there any security scanner that is checking if sites were hacked (malicious code, exploit scanner, checking if there is any suspicious code) in ubuntu server
[05:57] <somsip_> kubanc: RIPS?
[05:57] <somsip_> kubanc: hmm - that's more for looking for holes actually...
[06:00] <GinTonicool> histo ,somsip, i add this at chrome property by right click icon ---property ---command like this :/usr/bin/google-chrome --audio-buffer-size=2048 ,but it does not work
[06:01] <jmurrib21> what is /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 some times when I boot it says that device needs to be mounted or skip mounting?
[06:01] <somsip_> GinTonicool: try just running it from terminal first to see if it does fix your problem. And make sure you are using the builtin flashplugin and not an installed flashplugin. I forgot about checking that first
[06:02] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> Prock82 text
[06:02] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> text
[06:03] <kubanc> somsip_: what about OWASP?
[06:04] <somsip_> kubanc: never heard of it.
[06:04] <GinTonicool> maybe it is the fuiltin flashplugin ,,,i installed adobe flash player 11.7,,,,
[06:04] <swiss> i've touched owasp
[06:04] <swiss> what about owasp
[06:04] <swiss> kubanc: are you looking for hacked or hackable?
[06:04] <swiss> hacked is only found through logs
[06:04] <GinTonicool> how to check which plugin chrome is using when playing videos
[06:05] <dr_willis_> GinTonicool:  right click on the video?
[06:05] <somsip_> GinTonicool: in Chrome, open chrome://plugins
[06:06] <swiss> kubanc:i'm going to bed soon, but systems security is kinda my specialty, what are you looking for specifically?
[06:06] <kubanc> swiss: i'm looking for a some sort of a scanner program, that looks at my sites (most of them are Joomla) and looks for malicoius code, if the site was hacked, etc... I don't understand what you are saying with hacked or hackable..
[06:06] <somsip_> GinTonicool: I have 11.7.700.169 disabled
[06:06] <swiss> kubanc: hacked implies past tense
[06:06] <GinTonicool> not right click ,just play videos like youtube,,,,
[06:07] <swiss> kubanc: are you trying to check if exploits exist or are you trying to check if someone has exploited you
[06:07] <kubanc> swiss: I am trying to check if someone has exploited web site
[06:08] <GinTonicool> somsip ,i disabled the adobe flash player ,but now the video sites show that :no flash player installed
[06:08] <swiss> kubanc: if it has already been compromised? I suggest dumping all your logs into something like splunk and sorting through them like that
[06:08] <dr_willis_> GinTonicool:  you ashed how to see which one it was using.. it can depend on the site. html5 or  flash.. right clicking on the video shoule bring up a menu to tell you wat its using for that video
[06:08] <somsip_> GinTonicool: Is the builtin plugin enabled?
[06:08] <swiss> kubanc: for checking hackability, OWASP is generally good afaik
[06:09] <GinTonicool> what's the full name of builtin plugin
[06:10] <Prock82> .
[06:10] <somsip_> GinTonicool: surprisingly, it looks like I've actually enabled the installed plugin at /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
[06:10] <somsip_> GinTonicool: And disabled the builtin at /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so
[06:11] <somsip_> GinTonicool: this is the report for this bug https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=224046
[06:11] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> how can i get new emails to show under the Mail icon on the top menu
[06:12] <dr_willis_> ive never seen that icon show emails. ;) its more of an IM client notfication i thought.. unless thunderbird somehow works with it..
[06:12] <GinTonicool> somsip, disabled the builtin at /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so ?sure ?
[06:12] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> i saw a pic on line shiwint it
[06:13] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> also how to temove something from it
[06:13] <aarcane> htop
[06:13] <dr_willis_> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  try the system-settings -> online accounts   and enable gmail accounts perhaps.. and then  you might need to run  thunderbird and tell it to show the info.
[06:13] <kubanc> swiss: ok, for hackability, but i'm looking for software that will inform me that there's probably some strage code or files under under some path and i should check that..
[06:14] <somsip_> GinTonicool: it's not what I thought I'd done, but my 26.0.1410.63 version has working sound with builtin disabled, and installed enabled, using the --audio-buffer-size parameter. If I excluded that param, it is choppy. YMMV
[06:14] <dr_willis_> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  if you use gmail. i recall gmail-indicator applets available at some ppa's
[06:14] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> like if i open thunderbird once and never useed it, its allways there
[06:14] <DJHenjin> somebody has been trying to hack into my server
[06:14] <dr_willis_> thunderbirs most likely has some service that runs in the background would be my guess
[06:15] <dr_willis_> im not on a ubuntu bos rright  now to check out thunderbird
[06:15] <dr_willis_> !info fail2ban
[06:16] <DJHenjin> dr_willis_: any configuration needed or just install and leave alone?
[06:16] <dr_willis_> DJHenjin:  i tend to just install it and leave it. ;) then use logwatch about once a week to look at the logs
[06:16] <dr_willis_> but really i only used ot on my vps..  not like there was anything critical on it
[06:16] <DJHenjin> can logwatch be ran on a machine other than the server?
[06:16] <GinTonicool> somsip ,i'm using the same version of your
[06:17] <dr_willis_> logwatch parses the log files..
[06:17] <dr_willis_> and makes a nice report
[06:17] <DJHenjin> obviously
[06:17] <u13> сасай
[06:17] <DJHenjin> but I can only connect by SSH into my server
[06:17] <dr_willis_> so it has to have access to the log files...
[06:17] <dr_willis_> ssh can access remote files.
[06:17] <DJHenjin> but other than having access to the logs, if i have the logs on my local machine
[06:17] <dr_willis_> or you can ssh into the server and run logwatch
[06:18] <dr_willis_> i only use the most basic features of logwatch
[06:18] <GinTonicool> somsip, your builtin plugin is disabled ? how to do that , disabled /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so ?
[06:18] <supersecond> good evening
[06:19] <u13> hi niggers
[06:19] <somsip_> GinTonicool: click on the link that says 'Disable'
[06:19] <slimgeisha> hi
[06:19] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> something i just thought to do is search gmail in software center, whats the difference from the first two
[06:20] <dr_willis_> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  we dont know what 'the first two' are... we dont memorize stuff like that.
[06:20] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> take a look
[06:20] <dr_willis_> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  im not on a ubuntu box.
[06:21] <Ben64> theres also no guarantee that two people would have the same "first two"
[06:21] <guntbert_> !attitude | Roy_Newbie_13-04
[06:22] <AlbertoM> hi can you help me  whith e mail client suggestion and how to configure a outlook.com account?
[06:22] <dr_willis_> theres always a dozen ways to do somting.. so there could be several differnt gmail indicator applets. or other tools for messing with gmail.
[06:23] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> notify the arrival of new mail on gmail V.S. intergrate gmail with your desktop ... i didnt mean to sound rude , i just thought gmail V.S. all that <--- would have been quicker
[06:23] <AlbertoM> hello
[06:23] <dr_willis_> if one is a webapp - that will put a icon in the left side panel for gmail.com
[06:23] <dr_willis_> indocator-applet - puts an icon at the top right
[06:24] <GinTonicool> somsip, i disabled adobe flash plugin 11.7, and disabled /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so; now it play videos show no flash player installed , then what to do or check,thank you
[06:25] <somsip_> GinTonicool: you need to have a plugin enabled.
[06:26] <AlbertoM> Hello can yyou help me suggest me one e mail client and how to configure an @outlook.com account
[06:26] <guntbert_> !repeat | AlbertoM
[06:26] <Ben64> AlbertoM: thunderbird, check outlook.com for instructions
[06:27] <GinTonicool> all the plugins chrome is using are abled except adobe flash plugin , i do not know which exact plugin i need
[06:27] <AlbertoM> thanks
[06:27] <somsip_> GinTonicool: i've told you what my setup is, and told you YMMV. You can try it my way, or you can try it the proper way with builtin enabled and installed disabled. After that, you may need to research more
[06:27] <Ben64> GinTonicool: probably the pepper one you disabled, it comes with chrome and is the most updated version
[06:29] <DJHenjin> in /tmp what are the sess_ long string of numbers files?
[06:30] <GinTonicool> Ben64 , what it the pepper one , YMMV? i need this plugin ?
[06:30] <somsip_> GinTonicool: Your mileage May Vary - means it works for me but might not work for you.
[06:31] <GinTonicool> maybe
[06:31] <Eremes> hello guys how do I check my home folder is encrypted or not ? I can't remember wether xubuntu 12.0 gives encryption option on install
[06:31] <GinTonicool> somsip ,are you using adobe flash player ,or thers ?
[06:32] <Ben64> Eremes: df and/or mount
[06:32] <somsip_> GinTonicool: told you already
[06:32] <Eremes> I can remember after installed xubuntu asked me to write down a passpharse for unlocking something
[06:33] <GinTonicool> somsip, but i can not find the plugin YMMV in Wev Store
[06:33] <somsip_> GinTonicool: I can't help you anymore. Sorry.
[06:33] <guntbert_> Eremes: that seems to have been after choosing to encrypt your homedir
[06:33] <dr_willis_> YMMV is not a plugin
[06:33] <nitin__> hello everyone.. what are the settings to enable ubuntu system to connect from other system by ssh... ??
[06:33] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> is there a gmail app or something that works with push, so i get notify with out having to fetch every 30 sec or what ever?
[06:34] <GinTonicool> somsip ,thank you still , a lot
[06:34] <dr_willis_> nitin__:  instgall the openssh server... and let them connect..
[06:34] <Eremes> Ben64: and what am I looking for ? df or mount command did not tell me about encryption ?
[06:34] <dr_willis_> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  there may be some gmail INDICATOR-APPLETS that do that in the repos..
[06:34] <Ben64> Eremes: then pastebin them
[06:34] <nitin__> dr_willis_,   i have installed it
[06:34] <Eremes> guntbert_: still dont know how to make sure my home folder is encrypt or not
[06:35] <dr_willis_> nitin__:  so test it 'ssh ip.of.the.server'
[06:35] <nitin__> on ssh message is permission denied
[06:36] <dr_willis_> nitin__:  how are you using ssh exactly?
[06:36] <guntbert_> nitin__: 1st test: *on* the server:   shh localhost
[06:36] <nitin__> ssh system_name@ip
[06:36] <edenist> hey
[06:36] <dr_willis_> systemname? err.. use yoru users name
[06:36] <nitin__> guntbert_,  how to on the server..??
[06:36] <mong> yeah, should be user@host
[06:37] <jwdeaver> Hey, have a quick ubuntu install question for anyone that might have an answer.
[06:37] <nitin__> user and system name is same
[06:37] <guntbert_> nitin__: are you logged in on the server? Then just type    shh localhost
[06:37] <jwdeaver> shh localhost
[06:37] <bpietro> :ask
[06:37] <Eremes> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/MNn9pcxv
[06:37] <jwdeaver> lol
[06:38] <mong> that just tells the localhost to keep quiet
[06:38] <edenist> would anyone happen to know if it is a way to let a binary ignore a library before launching it with a bash script?
[06:38] <GinTonicool> when i run chrome ,it show 'could not load Shockwave Flash'
[06:39] <guntbert_> mong: please don't - this is a support channel
[06:39] <Ben64> Eremes: and df?
[06:39] <edenist> ie: i've got a bash script which eventually runs a binary.... however when I have the i386 version of libtxc_dxtn_s2tc installed, it wont launch
[06:40] <edenist> only way to launch it is to uninstall the package [which of course means other programs wont run]....
[06:40] <DJHenjin> stupid question, but i cannot apt-get remove nagios, says cirtual packages cant be removed, how the heck do i uninstall it then?
[06:40] <edenist> was wondering if there was a way to either disable the library, or just tell the binary to ignore it?
[06:40] <Eremes> Ben64:http://pastebin.com/BMS22UmF
[06:41] <Eremes> Ben64: how can u tell is encrypted enabled or not ?
[06:41] <moocow2024> I am trying to install 12.04.2 to a RAID 0 drive that has only one partition for windows 7 utilizing half the available space, with the other half unpartitioned. When I attempt to install ubuntu, I cannot get the installer to detect my raid 0 drive. I have tried unplugging my other hdds, but haven't had any luck yet. Any ideas?
[06:41] <kvothetech> edenist: what program
[06:42] <Ben64> Eremes: doesn't appear its encrypted, but it still may be
[06:42] <dopie> anyone have an idea why this pops up
[06:42] <dopie> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5597338
[06:42] <ajith> does any one knows about ltsp ubuntu clusters
[06:42] <kvothetech> edenist: if it's a parameter for the program you could always use that ..or chroot your32 bit libraryies seperately from your pure 64 bit install...
[06:42] <kvothetech> ajith: out of 1500 people here no nobody knows
[06:42] <bpietro> edenist: disable temporarily is easy: mv libtxc_dxtn_s2tc any_name_of_your_choice
[06:43] <guntbert_> DJHenjin: try to remove nagios3
[06:43] <Eremes> Ben64: I remember correctly after installed xubuntu, the system gave me a passphrase, but can't remember what its for
[06:43] <kvothetech> Eremes: your hard drive luks? boot loader?
[06:44] <kvothetech> Eremes: your user?
[06:44] <DJHenjin> guntbert_: not installed so not removed, But i know for a fact i have some form of nagios installed,... could have been from source
[06:44] <guntbert_> DJHenjin: you will need to do    apt-get auto-remove  afterwards
[06:44] <Eremes> kvothetech: I just installed it, so dont really understand about luks or boot looader , Im root
[06:45] <DJHenjin> guntbert_: It says nagios3 is not installed so is not removed
[06:45] <guntbert_> DJHenjin: when installing from source you circumvent the packaging system, so you need to uninstall the program the same way
[06:45] <Ben64> Eremes: you shouldn't be logged in as root
[06:45] <kvothetech> Eremes: i'd make a regular user to startwith then
[06:45] <edenist> ok thanks guys, will give those suggestions a go
[06:45] <Eremes> Ben64: sorry I mean I am a regular user with root access
[06:45] <kvothetech> Eremes: don't run x as root if you're in a tty use root all you want.
[06:45] <Eremes> kvothetech: thats I am now
[06:46] <Eremes> I;ve already setup password everytime I login to xubuntu, but still not sure if its encrypted or not :(
[06:46] <dopie> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5597338
[06:46] <dopie> any help here
[06:47] <Ben64> Eremes: ls -A ~/ | grep -i encrypt
[06:47] <dr_willis_> Eremes:  boot a live cd and look in the /home directory on the hd and see what files are in the users directory
[06:47] <dr_willis_> Eremes:  is one way :) but i doubt if its the best way
[06:48] <Eremes> Ben64: nothing happen with that command no list
[06:49] <Eremes> dr_willis_: will try
[06:53] <moocow2024> I have an install RAID related question if anyone has a few moments
[06:55] <cpanda> my ext4 drive is full, and even after deleting over 100mb of files it just won't free up space, df always reports 0 blocks available. I already ran fsck -f on it which says everything is fine
[06:55] <Ben64> cpanda: you should not fsck a mounted filesystem, and 100MB is not very much at all
[06:56] <DJHenjin> in ubuntu 12.04 server, are the only crontab files in /etc/cron.d
[06:57] <cpanda> it wasnt mounted, i heeded the warning. 100mb would be enough for me and is certainly >0 blocks free. df also reports less blocks used than available, but always 0 blocks free
[06:58] <Ben64> cpanda: is it not the partition ubuntu is on?
[06:58] <cpanda> yes it is
[06:58] <reetika> reetika_1983 reetika7
[06:58] <Ben64> cpanda: then how did you run fsck?
[06:58] <cpanda> gparted
[06:58] <cpanda> uh.. i mean partedmagic live cd
[06:59] <Ben64> ok, well you're still out of space then
[06:59] <Ben64> try bleachbit
[07:00] <cpanda> i already deleted stuff, i just need the drive/ext4 to report it as usable. i don't think i could run bleachbit, as with 0 bytes free i cant log into x
[07:00] <Ben64> delete more stuff
[07:01] <reetika> reetika_linux
[07:01] <dr_willis_> you can login to the console with 0 bytes free
[07:01] <dr_willis_> or should be able to at least
[07:01] <cpanda> yes i'm here via console
[07:02] <dr_willis_> i have seen where log files go crazy and write faster then people can delete stuff. ;)
[07:02] <dr_willis_> if theres nothing critical on the system you could start by removeing all the old log files
[07:03] <cpanda> yes i know, but the 0 blocks free didnt change after deleting stuff while not using the drive as a system drive
[07:03] <dr_willis_> that is weird
[07:03] <Ben64> could still be in the reserved blocks
[07:03] <dr_willis_> but 5% is reserved for root.. so its possivble its showing what the user can use..
[07:03] <dr_willis_> tune2fs can tweak  that reserved %
[07:03] <DJHenjin> for fricks sakes, ive been trying to uninstall cacti, but i cannot find the cron that its poller is set to run in
[07:04] <Eremes> dr_willis_: Im on live CD now, I can browse and see the filename, but I can't open a folder, permission denied, does it mean my folder is encrypted ?
[07:04] <cpanda> would df as root show it as free?
[07:04] <Ben64> Eremes: you can see the files in your home directory?
[07:04] <dr_willis_> Eremes:  what files are on the home/yourusername directory ?
[07:04] <Eremes> Ben64: yes I can see all my files there
[07:04] <dr_willis_> then you are not encrypted..
[07:05] <Eremes> Ben64: I can see my file config.rar
[07:05] <Ben64> the doctor is right
[07:05] <Eremes> dr_willis_: ok
[07:05] <dr_willis_> you see Desktop, and Docs, and Videos and so forth as well?
[07:05] <Eremes> dr_willis_: yes
[07:05] <dr_willis_> then you are not encrypted..
[07:05] <dr_willis_> if you were.. you would only see like 3 files
[07:05] <cpanda> dr_willis_ thanks, setting it to 1% shows free blocks again :) and df as root didnt show it before
[07:06] <Eremes> hmm xubuntu does not give any option to encrypt while install it
[07:06] <dr_willis_> cpanda:  id start with cleaning out logs and  the var/cache/apt stuff ;)
[07:06] <dr_willis_> Eremes:  i see way to many issues in here with encrypted homes..
[07:07] <Eremes> dr_willis_: maybe thats why xubuntu does not offer home encryption as installation option
[07:08] <dr_willis_> i dont use xubuntu. so no idea how its installer differs.. i thought i saw the option on the Lubuntu installer
[07:08] <qweads> which one of cfdisk, fdisk and parted should i use to partition a harddisk?
[07:08] <qweads> what are the differences
[07:08] <dr_willis_> qweads:  parted or cfdisk.. fdisk is getting obsolete
[07:08] <dr_willis_> qweads:  or gparted for a nice gui
[07:08] <Dewi> shouldn't really be any different
[07:09] <Dewi> you can always install with ubuntu and then switch
[07:09] <dr_willis_> fdisk has issues with the bigger/gpt/stuff i recall..
[07:09] <cpanda> yes, removing apt cache gave me 5%, thanks again :)
[07:09] <Ben64> you should really have more free space than that
[07:09] <Eremes> ok gtg , thanks guys for helping me especially Ben64 & dr_willis_
[07:09] <Ben64> everything gets fragmented with low free space
[07:10] <qweads> Dewi: what are you talking about?
[07:10] <Dewi> qweads: being surprised the xubuntu installer would have any differences for storage
[07:10] <cpanda> ben64 sure, if i could downsize the ntfs partition more, but that wasnt possible. the /-drive is a little over 2gb
[07:12] <aqilla> hai
[07:13] <qweads> Dewi: i think you are mistaking me for someone else
[07:13] <Dewi> qweads: I didn't say anything to you until you asked...
[07:14] <qweads> Dewi: perhaps you guys should stop making it look like im working with you all the time .. planting "evidence"
[07:15]  * Dewi laughs.
[07:16] <DJHenjin> so apparently there is NO crontab for ANY user at all on my server, yet there are still scheduled tasks running like cacti's poller, and zabbix's poller as well, how the hell is that possible
[07:16] <nevyn> DJHenjin: /etc/cron.daily
[07:16] <Dewi> DJHenjin: the system crontabs
[07:16] <Dewi> DJHenjin: also, continuously running services?
[07:17] <DJHenjin> nevyn: /etc/cron.daily doesnt have the cronjobs i am looking for,
[07:18] <Dewi> DJHenjin: ps -A | grep -i zabbix
[07:18] <DJHenjin> and Dewi, the software I am looking to remove uses cron for its scheduling apparently, but i cant find any cronjobs at all
[07:18] <Dewi> hmm ok
[07:18] <DJHenjin> Dewi, i dont want to remove zabbix,
[07:18] <DJHenjin> i want to remove cacti, and nagios
[07:19] <Dewi> DJHenjin: yeah I'm just describing one way to spot a possible continuously running daemon process
[07:19] <Dewi> DJHenjin: I don't actually know the ins and outs of zabbix or cacti
[07:19] <DJHenjin> Dewi, did that for both nagios and cacti and nothing there.
[07:19] <DJHenjin> i DONT want to remove zabbix. i want to remove Nagios and Cacti,
[07:20] <DJHenjin> i have gotten most of Cacti's files, but i keep getting emails saying that one of cacti's files is missing blah blah blah.
[07:22] <asdfasdfg> aye
[07:31] <GinTonicool> somsip,,, guys ,maybe i know why chrome sound quivers when it play on line videos
[07:32] <l057c0d3r> yeah.. i use chromium myself.. never had an issue with sound.. but this sounds interesting...
[07:32] <GinTonicool> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so ,in chrome//:plugins ,in adobe flash player ,i disabled this shockwave plugin, now the sound works rightly
[07:33] <l057c0d3r> hmm  interesting..
[07:35] <SparkySparkyBoom> l057c0d3r: why chromium?
[07:35] <SparkySparkyBoom> why not the chrome release?
[07:35] <ghyth> I bought Del Inspiron 15Z - I installed ubuntu but facing issues evertime i updated the system, and the battery led is up even if the batter is full
[07:36] <ghyth> which may batter life might affected
[07:36] <sharpshooter> SparkySparkyBoom:  open-source !!
[07:36] <l057c0d3r> agree sharpshooter
[07:36] <SparkySparkyBoom> it has libs that are proprietary though
[07:36] <ghyth> and when i reboot it stuck in boot stage
[07:36] <SparkySparkyBoom> pretty much defeats the purpose of OSS
[07:36] <l057c0d3r> but better yet..  why not
[07:37] <SparkySparkyBoom> chrome is easier to download and install
[07:37] <SparkySparkyBoom> it has stable updates
[07:37] <rigo> hi
[07:37] <l057c0d3r> ghyth, ??  what was that...
[07:37] <l057c0d3r> SparkySparkyBoom, hmm sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[07:37] <ghyth> ubuntu 12.04
[07:37] <l057c0d3r> it updates from time to time.. has always worked....
[07:37] <rigo> i know that i'm talking about a mounted ftp site, but is there any chance for me to set up the mounted ftp site to my proftpd as default root?
[07:37] <l057c0d3r> never thought about switching to chorm....
[07:38] <SparkySparkyBoom> it's in the ubuntu repos?
[07:38] <SparkySparkyBoom> oh
[07:38] <SparkySparkyBoom> yea
[07:38] <sharpshooter> SparkySparkyBoom:  sure !
[07:39] <l057c0d3r> ghyth, has it worked before.. or does it hang at boot after fresh install
[07:39] <sharpshooter> SparkySparkyBoom:  if you want flash player take a look at this http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/install-pepper-flash-player-for.html
[07:39] <Akiva-Mobile> Hey I was installing ubuntu alongside windows 7, and while I was waiting, I decided to watch a youtube. The youtube crashed, my screen is locked, and I don't know what to do. Any ideas?
[07:40] <rigo> anyone? something? :)
[07:40] <SparkySparkyBoom> meh
[07:40] <ghyth> l057c0d3r, yes, even when i reinstalll it one time it works another time it didn't
[07:40] <Akiva-Mobile> the only thing I can do it seems is goto alt+ctrl f1 etc
[07:40] <SparkySparkyBoom> chrome is better
[07:41] <l057c0d3r> Akiva-Mobile, so alt f7 just takes u to a blank screen i take it
[07:41] <Akiva-Mobile> l057c0d3r: Yes,
[07:42] <l057c0d3r> u were using firefox correct
[07:42] <Akiva-Mobile> Yes
[07:42] <l057c0d3r> u could try loging in to tty1 and doing a sudo killall firefox
[07:42] <dr_willis_> hmm.. live cd dosent have flash.. guess it was a html5 video?
[07:42] <Akiva-Mobile> okay I'll try
[07:42] <l057c0d3r> and trying to go back to f7
[07:42] <l057c0d3r> not sure if that will help though
[07:42] <l057c0d3r> dr_willis_, i didnt think about that actually
[07:43] <ghyth> l057c0d3r, the funy thing now it's working - after I restart the computer it will stop
[07:43] <ghyth> restart it one more time - it will work
[07:43] <Akiva-Mobile> dr_willis_: I installed it
[07:43] <l057c0d3r> ghyth, that is strange.. im looking it up atm
[07:43] <dr_willis_> oh the humanity! ;)
[07:43] <l057c0d3r> dr_willis_, if he restarts the unity desktop from tty1.. will the install process still be running....
[07:44] <dr_willis_> Akiva-Mobile:  well if you are lucky killing firefox - might get the desktop back
[07:44] <l057c0d3r> and more importantly visible
[07:44] <Akiva-Mobile> dr_willis_: not lucky
[07:44] <Akiva-Mobile> dr_willis_: still blank
[07:44] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> im having ubuntu 13.04 host a smb share.. the iphone with app connects to it, Files from the launcher works, but the wii wont! any advice, and the wii is online
[07:45] <dr_willis_> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  so basically everything else on the lan sees the share except the  wii?
[07:45] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> yes
[07:45] <Akiva-Mobile> killing firefox didnt work
[07:46] <l057c0d3r> ghyth, are u booting in uefi mode or standard mode from the bios
[07:46] <l057c0d3r> u said windows 7 so i would say no uefi
[07:46] <Ben64> uh.... the wii doesn't connect to samba
[07:46] <Akiva-Mobile> my main concern is whether the disk partitioner is still working. I don't wan't to interupt my installation and lose 2 terrabytes of data
[07:46] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> ill try a restart brb
[07:46] <dr_willis_> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  you could check the samba logs and /var/log/auth* log files and see  if the samba server gives a reason to refuse the connection. or if its even seeing the connections at all.
[07:47] <l057c0d3r> Akiva-Mobile, well i guess u could use top from tty1 and see how active the install process is...
[07:47] <Akiva-Mobile> ah
[07:47] <l057c0d3r> if it goes dead....  most likely it is done...
[07:47] <Akiva-Mobile> I fixed it
[07:47] <Akiva-Mobile> sudo killall plugin-container
[07:47] <Akiva-Mobile> thanks guys
[07:47] <dr_willis_> 'flash' the pc killer! ;)
[07:47] <l057c0d3r> lol oh yeah firefox uses plugin-container..  didnt think about that
[07:47] <Akiva-Mobile> dr_willis_: is gnash good ?
[07:48] <l057c0d3r> does chromium?
[07:48] <dr_willis_> Akiva-Mobile:  never used  it.
[07:48] <l057c0d3r> Akiva-Mobile, finance app
[07:48] <l057c0d3r> hmm i think kmymoney is nice
[07:48] <dr_willis_> if i want a flash video. o tend to use flash-download apps..
[07:48] <dr_willis_> i think he means the open sourced flash thang
[07:48] <l057c0d3r> oh
[07:49] <l057c0d3r> maybe i am just lucky.. but adobe flash has always done me good...
[07:49] <Akiva-Mobile> heh
[07:49] <dr_willis_> i rarely have flash issues.. but i have older pcs.
[07:49] <l057c0d3r> but as dr_willis_ i do use fetchers most the time and watch in vlc..
[07:49] <dr_willis_> other then the smurf-people issue.. a few months back.. ;)
[07:50] <Akiva-Mobile> it is a live cd so :P
[07:50] <dr_willis_> there was a extension for firefox that made flash play in vlc in the browser..  but its been discontinued
[07:50] <Akiva-Mobile> interesting
[07:50] <Akiva-Mobile> lol it crashed again :P
[07:51] <dr_willis_> any other use for flash -- then just playing vidoes... i imagine should be outlawed. ;)  silly idiotic sites with 5+ flash animation banner ads...
[07:51] <dr_willis_> then they ALL start playing sound at the same time...
[07:51] <ghyth> l057c0d3r, UEFI
[07:51] <l057c0d3r> dr_willis_, ad block pro  :-)
[07:51] <Phryq> hey, my sound doesn't work, either from speakers or headphone jack. (The jack physically broke earlier, so I think it's unrelated
[07:51] <l057c0d3r> oh and flashblock plugin
[07:52] <dr_willis_> bbl
[07:52] <Phryq> anyone able to help?
[07:52] <njillings> Phryq> give us a bit more than 'it won't work' Whats your version, whats your card and what have you already tried
[07:52] <l057c0d3r> Phryq, in term type alsamixer....
[07:53] <l057c0d3r> go through and make sure everything is turned up and not muted
[07:53] <l057c0d3r> may have to use f6 to switch between cards if you have an hdmi port ext
[07:53] <ghyth> l057c0d3r, did you see a case such as mine !?
[07:53] <l057c0d3r> yeah....  but they were all trying to boot in uefi mode
[07:54] <ghyth> l057c0d3r, me too it's uefi mode
[07:55] <Phryq> thanks guys. AlsaMixer v1.0.25, Card: HDA Intel PCH, Chip: Intel PantherPoint HDMI
[07:55] <ghyth> l057c0d3r, but can't find why it happened
[07:55] <Kartagis> !pin
[07:56] <l057c0d3r> is uefi mode needed..  maybe disable it in bios..
[07:56] <l057c0d3r> i dont believe windows 7 needs it like 8
[07:56] <njillings> Phryq> have you checked in Alsa mixer the routing? On one of the tabs there should be a dropdown explaining your card config. If you select Digital Out it should go to HDMI, any of the Analogue outs should then use your normal soundcard speakers / headphones
[07:57] <l057c0d3r> maybe check to make sure legacy mode is enabled in the bios/csm
[07:57] <vic> how do i check python version installed/
[07:57] <ghyth> l057c0d3r, I enabled it and then disabled it and try in both ways but it's the same
[07:57] <ghyth> :(
[07:57] <DJHenjin> have you tried [ython --help
[07:57] <Phryq> Master dB gain was actually on mute (I'd never seen this ALSA mixer before). I've unmuted it, but still no sound. Should I restart my computer? Sorry I'm very nube.
[07:57] <l057c0d3r> vic python --version
[07:57] <njillings> python --version
[07:58] <njillings> Phryq> have you followed my last? Make sure the ALSA is sending audio to the right place
[07:58] <Phryq> ok guys, I'm really dumb. It was actually just a mute thing. Thanks so much
[07:58] <vic> thanks.
[07:59] <Phryq> I didn't know this mixer existed, so I don't know how I muted it this was. It was the PCM being muted.
[07:59] <l057c0d3r> Phryq, glad to help :-p
[07:59] <vic> i have a file unlocker.py how do i execute it?
[07:59] <njillings> phryq> no probs
[07:59] <Phryq> Can I use the ALSA mixer to do effects like compression on any audio outputed from my computer? that would be really cool
[08:00] <l057c0d3r> i don't believe so
[08:01] <l057c0d3r> ghyth  goes your windows 7 boot with ueif tunred off and legacy on...
[08:01] <njillings> Phryq> not really, better to use JACK as that supports routing and DSP. Not sure you want to do that anyway though, will not sound good on 90% of stuff
[08:01] <l057c0d3r> if so..  maybe try turing legacy on and ueif off.. and reinstalling ubuntu
[08:01] <njillings> !jack
[08:02] <Phryq> I'm thinking how I watch a lot of Noam Chomsky lectures and the audio is so terrible, even though what he says is so brilliant
[08:02] <ghyth> l057c0d3r, no windows anymore, I'm a linux guy - do I need to reinstall it !!!!
[08:02] <vic> can somebody help me execute a python script
[08:02] <Phryq> I know what I'm doing with audio (in windows at least) it's just linux I don't know.
[08:02] <ghyth> l057c0d3r, and the external speakers is not working too
[08:03] <l057c0d3r> well as long as there is nothing u need to back up... i would try a reinstall with ueif off an legacy on...
[08:03] <njillings> Phryq> Play them in VLC, it has built in audio DSP functions I think
[08:03] <l057c0d3r> and for the speaker it may be a mute issue like the other persons issue
[08:03] <Phryq> ah, I'll try that
[08:03] <l057c0d3r> alsamixer in term might help
[08:04] <njillings> Phryq> you go to Tools, Effects, Audio Effects and it has a compressor, GEQ and a load of video effects
[08:04] <A1Recon> Can the archive manager open rar files?
[08:04] <l057c0d3r> yes vlc is amazing
[08:04] <l057c0d3r> A1Recon, i believe so..  u may need to install unrar though....
[08:05] <Oasa> can anyone help me in finding free vpn with ubuntu like hotspotshield or hideman
[08:05] <l057c0d3r> sudo apt-get install unrar
[08:05] <Phryq> is there any way to add plugins to it? like VSTs?
[08:05] <njillings> Phryq> not VSTs, you can write C/C++ code for it. Read the VLC website. I haven't done any but it is possible
[08:05] <rigo> i did the mapping with the curlftpfs to /mnt/ftp if i set up in proftpd as default root the /mnt the ftp directory is not visible.
[08:06] <rigo> log sais: chroot to '/mnt/ftp/' failed for user 'xbmc': Operation not permitted
[08:06] <njillings> Phryq> here's on good site: http://code.google.com/p/vlc-shares/wiki/HowToNewPlugin
[08:06] <A1Recon> l057c0d3r: it says "This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources." for "rar unrar"
[08:07] <Phryq> thanks
[08:07] <A1Recon> Is there some other way to open rar files in ubuntu?
[08:07] <Oasa> free vpn in ubuntu?
[08:08] <Ben64> Oasa: openvpn
[08:08] <l057c0d3r> A1Recon, what said that
[08:08] <njillings> Oasa> openVPN
[08:08] <Oasa> i mean free vpn server like hotspotshiield
[08:08] <bazhang> !ot | Oasa
[08:08] <A1Recon> l057c0d3r: The Archive Manager
[08:08] <l057c0d3r> did u install unrar?
[08:08] <bazhang> Oasa, that has Nothing to do with Ubuntu support
[08:08] <A1Recon> l057c0d3r: Is there some other way to open rar files in ubuntu?
[08:09] <njillings> Oasa> OpenVPN can be configured as a client or Server
[08:10] <Kartagis> A1Recon: install rar package
[08:10] <Kartagis> !info rar
[08:10] <Hounddog> good morning folks... having a slight problem with the installation... keyboard/mouse are not working... infact i think my usb ports are not working at all
[08:10] <rigo> is there any chance for me to recevie an answer from someone? :)
[08:10] <Akiva-Mobile> mmmmm, I just installed ubuntu alongside windows, but the grub is not coming up. It's just a windows repair screen
[08:10] <AlbertoM> Hey  i try  i search and i can not configre a email account on tunderbird is  @outlook.com
[08:10] <Kartagis> !grub | Akiva-Mobile
[08:11] <A1Recon> Kartagis: command for installing rar and unrar? "sudo apt-get install rar"?
[08:11] <njillings> rigo> not sure, but are you sure your user has permissions to do mounting? generally only roots
[08:11] <Akiva-Mobile> Kartagis: I am dealing with UEFI
[08:11] <Kartagis> A1Recon: yes
[08:11] <Akiva-Mobile> and that doesnt answer my question. Grub does not appear. I can't boot ubuntu
[08:11] <Hounddog> Akiva-Mobile: you isntalling next to windows 8?
[08:11] <Kartagis> !uefi
[08:11] <rigo> i used the command with xbmc user and sudo, after that i gave write permissions to all
[08:11] <Akiva-Mobile> Hounddog: windows 7
[08:11] <Hounddog> ahh i am just installing beside 8
[08:12] <njillings> rigo: sorry, not something I know much about
[08:12] <l057c0d3r> hmm ok so unrar is the non free version
[08:12] <l057c0d3r> but heh thats what i was saying to do
[08:12] <Kartagis> Akiva-Mobile: then follow !grub. it should help you
[08:12] <Kartagis> !grub | Akiva-Mobile
[08:13] <rigo> but its not an unpossible thing right? so i would like to mount an ftp site to my local system, and give the path as the root of the local proftpd server. (the site is a porn site which i have to develope. and the proxy here where i work does not allows such connections :D)
[08:14] <Hounddog> as i am installing next to windows 8 once i get ubuntu running in try mode i can safely install it right?
[08:14] <Ben64> rigo: sounds like a bad idea
[08:15] <njillings> rigo> theoretically it should do, I mount SFTP using the inbuilt SFTP but generally it is only stable when I am inside the network. Better to just download and put a local web server on your machine to develop it, and then push the updates
[08:15] <vic> how do i execute a python script (unlocker.py)
[08:16] <njillings> vic> in terminal -- python unlocker.py
[08:16] <olegb> vic: or chmod +x unlocker.py
[08:16] <njillings> vic: assuming you have cd'd to the right directory already
[08:16] <rigo> its another unusable filesystem right?
[08:17] <vic> njilings: how do i have the cd'd to the right directory
[08:17] <olegb> vic: that would make the script executable
[08:18] <Hounddog> so... here is a challenge... how to check why usb is not working without keyboard and mouse....
[08:18] <njillings> vic: in terminal, it defaults to your local directory. If your directory is stored in your documents folder, you can either do 'python Documents/unlocker.py' or you can cd Documents and then you can just run 'python unlocker.py'
[08:18] <njillings> !cd
[08:19] <vic> njillings:chmod: cannot access ‘unlocker.py’: No such file or directory
[08:19] <njillings> vic> where is your file stored?
[08:20] <vic> njillings: downloads
[08:20] <rigo> what would be your opinion?
[08:21] <njillings> vic> ok, then in terminal type in cd Downloads. Type in ls and you should see the file listed. Re-run your chmod command (or just run python unlocker.py)
[08:21] <Ben64> vic: you should be careful running downloaded scripts
[08:21] <l057c0d3r> Ben64, the good thing about scripts.. if you know the language u can look at it and see what it does
[08:21] <njillings> Ben64> true, but I'm assuming that vic knows where the script came from and what it does
[08:22] <rigo> nevermind i have access to my homeserver via vnc it's just simply faster to develope from the local pc
[08:22] <Ben64> njillings: but doesn't know how to run a python script? :S
[08:22] <vic> Ben64: the code came from freecode.com
[08:23] <njillings> Ben64> Like I said, I'm not assuming anything. I provide advice on solving a problem, not giving people life lessons in computing
[08:23] <vic> thanks | njillings
[08:23] <olegb> Hounddog: you could try and ssh to the box - assuming that you have a sshd running
[08:24] <Ben64> i don't just let people jump off cliffs
[08:24] <njillings> rigo: by mounting your FTP on your local directrory, you aren't developing locally, you are simply providing a short-cut to the server. By developing locally and uploading to the server, that would be local development
[08:24] <rigo> you misunderstand em
[08:24] <rigo> me
[08:24] <manish__> hello does anybody know how to create custom ui for ubuntu tpuch?
[08:24] <manish__> touch
[08:25] <bazhang> !touch | manish__
[08:25] <bazhang> manish__, /join #ubuntu-touch
[08:25] <njillings> Ben64> I don't either, but I'm not standing by the cliff, just saying I don't know the whole story and I dont have time to. Nor does this channel
[08:25] <rigo> i mean to run the netbeans on the local computer and connect to the site through my home server. got the point? :)
[08:25] <manish__> i have alerady joined there
[08:25] <bazhang> manish__, so be patient
[08:25] <autra> hello
[08:25] <autra> my system is not booting since the new kernel update...
[08:26] <autra> can someone help me to diagnose it ? (I have access to the logs, as I have a bootable usb stick)
[08:26] <njillings> autra: what is the problem, no GUI?
[08:26] <njillings> autra: or it just freezes
[08:26] <manish__> bazhang....i am not dev i am just a business man planning to start mobile company with ubuntu on it ..so please can anybody guide me how to start
[08:27] <njillings> !touch | manish
[08:27] <bazhang> manish__, yes. be patient with the questions you ask in #ubuntu-touch .
[08:27] <manish__> ok bazhang i am patient...
[08:28] <manish__> bazhang i have couple of questions can you answer me?
[08:28] <bazhang> manish__, about ubuntu touch?
[08:28] <manish__> yes bazhang about ubuntu tpuch
[08:29] <manish__> touch
[08:29] <autra> njillings, it does not boot entirely
[08:29] <autra> no tty, no login screen
[08:29] <bazhang> manish__, as I have said. Please Be Patient. #ubuntu-touch will hopefully answer you.
[08:29] <Ben64> autra: can you get to grub? (hint - repeatedly smash left shift during boot)
[08:29] <autra> I'm looking at dmesg and var/boot.log but...
[08:29] <vic> how do i identify active usb ports
[08:29] <autra> Ben64, yes,
[08:29] <njillings> autra: on GRUB loader, you should have an option to go into advanced options (I think) and there it should give a list of kernels, select the last that worked
[08:29] <manish__> ok bazhang thanks a lot..
[08:30] <Ben64> autra: try an older kernel
[08:30] <autra> so I tested the previeous kernel already njillings
[08:30] <autra> and it worked
[08:30] <autra> so I know the problem is with the last kernel
[08:30] <autra> I had problem shutting down on the previous kernel though
[08:31] <autra> but at least it is booting
[08:31] <autra> I wanted to diagnose that
[08:31] <njillings> njillings: hmm, not sure I can identify the problem for you. Maybe someone else here can, otherwise have you researched  on the Ubuntu Forum and for any known bugs on Launchpad?
[08:32] <autra> njillings, I will, thanks
[08:40] <xlaire> hello, i have question, in TOP command, theres my username and root
[08:40] <xlaire> what difference and how to login as a root
[08:41] <Ben64> !root | xlaire
[08:42] <bazhang> xlaire, dont login a s root. there is simply no need
[08:42] <xlaire> ok so i can't kill process under root?
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> xlaire: some processes run as root
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> xlaire: sure, you can use sudo kill nickserv PID
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> oops
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> sudo kill PID
[08:43] <xlaire> i will try to kill one process
[08:43] <rajumoh> to become root use $sudo su root
[08:43] <Ben64> don't do that ^
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> rajumoh: sudo -i    is a little better
[08:43] <bazhang> rajumoh, thats not correct
[08:43] <rajumoh> bazhang: with all due respect it works
[08:43] <Ben64> not correctly it doesn't
[08:44] <youknowme> so many guys
[08:44] <Ben64> its actually less typing to do it the right way, so why not?
[08:44] <bazhang> rajumoh, sudo -i is the correct command. yours does not. Please NEVER recommend that here, thanks.
[08:44] <xlaire> ok please don't argue, then what is zombie means?
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> rajumoh: yes it may work but the environment (which you don't immediately see) isn't right
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> rajumoh: sudo for GUI apps 'works' too, but is also not right
[08:45] <Ben64> can break your login like that
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> xlaire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process
[08:46] <xlaire> ty for link
[08:46] <rajumoh> bazhang,ActionParsnip: yeah just noticed that the environment seems to be different. can one of point to any links where this is documented
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> rajumoh: in the man page is a good start :). It may be documented online
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> rajumoh: or do you mean gui apps with sudo and not gksudo?
[08:49] <rajumoh> ActionParsnip: with gui apps i use kdesudo or gksudo that was not the problem. with  terminal i have been using sudo su root for so long havent actually ever met a situation where there was problems
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> rajumoh: good, gk/kdesudo is important :D
[08:50] <cpanda> i tend to use sudo bash, is that wrong too?
[08:50] <Ben64> yeah
[08:51] <Ben64> dunno why you guys need a root shell so often, but the correct way is sudo -i
[08:51] <xlaire> i'm intrigue with the link given to me, i saw a code c++, is there a msdn for ubuntu and if write a code, does it required editor / compiler to run my code?
[08:51] <rajumoh> ActionParsnip: frankly i typed in the command to become root, for fun sake , it always seems to get this room abuzz. but sudo -i was a bit new to me :-p
[08:52] <Ben64> xlaire: is there a microsoft dev network for ubuntu? ha. no.
[08:52] <xlaire> kinda like i mean
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> xlaire: its just an example
[08:53] <xlaire> please give an example
[09:00] <dr_willis> splash:  please dont do an ON JOIN spam of your silly spammy site...
[09:01] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> how do i undo the ppa cryptfolder-indicator and purge it
[09:01] <dr_willis> !ppa-purge
[09:02] <dr_willis> you can apt-get remove packagename   if you know the packagename  Roy_Newbie_13-04
[09:03] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> what was the ppa so i can get rid of that
[09:03] <dr_willis> you added the ppa.. so i have no idea
[09:03] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> purge the ppa, it totaly sucks, locks up, comand line is so much easyer
[09:03] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> someone here game the ppa connamd to me
[09:05] <dr_willis> look at your hiatory buffer, if you ysed the cli to add it.. or look in /etc/sources.list.d
[09:05] <Kartagis> how do I upgrade an installed package through PPA?
[09:05] <dr_willis> history command shows your cli history
[09:06] <dr_willis> enable the ppa - sudo apt-get update. sudo apt-get upgrade.. and it shouldl upgrade it
[09:07] <arpit> Hi I am getting the following error while linking
[09:07] <arpit> hh
[09:08] <arpit> hidden symbol `fstat' in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc_nonshared.a
[09:08] <arpit> is refrenced by DSO
[09:08] <arpit> can someone please explain
[09:09] <Gune> (Writing this here since I couldnt write in #linux) Hey guys, question about rsync. I have 2-3 server which has websites on them and I would like to back these up on a regular basis to a windows machine, and for this I would like to use rsync to make the backups incremental. Would the rsync command i need to execute have to be executed on the windows machine or can I initiate the rsync process on the linux machine directly?
[09:09] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> how could i grep ppa in hte history
[09:09] <Ben64> Roy_Newbie_13-04: cat ~/.bash_history | grep ppa
[09:09] <rudivs> I've seen some online tutorials suggesting that installing itunes from playonlinux is the way to go (assuming you need itunes). I don't see it as an option in 12.10 - am I doing something wrong, or has it been removed?
[09:09] <dr_willis> its possible the #linux channel  may require you to be 'identified' to the services Gune  and have a regiestered nick.
[09:10] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> thanks
[09:10] <Jonathan_> Hello, Should I use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS or 13.04
[09:10] <Jonathan_> Any suggestions
[09:10] <Jonathan_> What are the main differences
[09:10] <Jonathan_> ?
[09:10] <dr_willis> history | grep pattern          Roy_Newbie_13-04  can also work
[09:10] <dr_willis> 13.04 has newer updated packages.. and a bit more polish
[09:10] <dr_willis> and some neat new features.. (just a few)
[09:11] <Ben64> Jonathan_: 12.04 is lts, which means its supported until 2017. 13.04 is not, and requires an update to 13.10 by January 2014
[09:11] <dr_willis> if LTS is imporntant to you.. use LTS
[09:11] <bazhang> http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/2012-10/msg00149.html    arpit
[09:11] <dr_willis> if newer stuff is imporntant.. use the latest release
[09:15] <sonofzeus> Hey there
[09:15] <sonofzeus> Does anyone here use gnumeric?
[09:15] <kvothetech> sonofzeus: nope
[09:15] <A1Recon> how to update GPU drivers? I am not running the proprietary drivers.
[09:15] <kvothetech> dr_willis: hi sorry left earlier id you get the raid/lvm issue you had sorted
[09:16] <kvothetech> A1Recon: apt-get update apt-get upgrade
[09:16] <dr_willis> kvothetech:  wasent me. ;) was some other guy
[09:16] <kvothetech> dr_willis: sorry been drinking don't do that much...thought it was you sorry
[09:16] <chesty> hey, I installed linux-image-generic-lts-raring to work around a kvm bug but the nvidia card is a little unhappy, there's no xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-lts-raring package. does anyone know how to look up why a package is missing?
[09:16] <dr_willis> A1Recon:  if you install the .run drivers package.. then thats what you have to keep on doing..
[09:17] <dr_willis> A1Recon:  if you are using drivers from the repos.. apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade pulls in any updates
[09:17] <kvothetech> chesty: hc, there's a package for nvidia but you have to compile it again since you changed kernels it has to rebuild the modules
[09:18] <kvothetech> chesty: unless you built them in which i don't think nvidia lets you
[09:18] <chesty> kvothetech: ok, but why is there a xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-lts-quantal but not a xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-lts-raring?
[09:19] <kvothetech> xserver-xorg-video-nouveau doesn't work ?
[09:19] <dr_willis> raring is not a  'lts' release perhaps?  or is that what lts means in that nam
[09:19] <dr_willis> chesty:  you are using a raring kernel  in quantal?
[09:19] <kvothetech> chesty: because theres no reason to have seperate packages for nouveau that i can think of...
[09:19] <chesty> dr_willis: no, i'm on 12,04 lts with the raring lts kernel
[09:20] <A1Recon> dr_willis: Does Chromium update on its own??
[09:20] <dr_willis> chesty:  you may want to look into the updated kernel ppa's and perhaps the xswat ppa. for  12.04 instead of trying to force in a raring package
[09:20] <kvothetech> dr_willis: chesty why do you need seperate novouie packages...it's all the same all it does is add the modules to your kernel.
[09:21] <dr_willis> A1Recon:  againn.. if you insgtall stuff from the  repos.. then they should update automatically
[09:21] <kvothetech> A1Recon: yes if you grabbed it from apt to begin with if not you can redl the source and recompile a new one at leisure
[09:21] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade    (or perhaps   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade) and you should be all updated
[09:23] <kvothetech> dr_willis: i think you dropped as i answered something / asked one sec
[09:23] <kvothetech> dr_willis: chesty why do you need seperate novouie packages...it's all the same all it does is add the modules to your kernel.
[09:23] <dr_willis> silly andchat client on android likes to craash on nick completion..
[09:24] <chesty> dr_willis: i'm not forcing raring package, the *-lts-raring packages are in 12.04 lts repo
[09:24] <dr_willis> so it always crashes right in the middle of a concersation. ;)
[09:24] <dr_willis> chesty:  so its from the backports repo?
[09:24] <chesty> dr_willis: i
[09:24] <chesty> dr_willis: i'm not sure. it's a standard 12.04 lts, and some quantal and raring packages are available
[09:25] <A1Recon> kvothetech: I installed it from the Ubuntu Software Center
[09:25] <dr_willis> that seems weird.. but i alwayas stick to the latest release. ;)
[09:25] <kvothetech> chesty: kvm doesn't work in lts release of ubuntu..that sounds like a pretty serious error
[09:25] <kvothetech> or is that just me
[09:25] <dr_willis> A1Recon:  and the software center is a front end to the apt packageing system
[09:25] <penos_> how to run ubuntu in debian?
[09:25] <kvothetech> A1Recon: which uses apt/dpkg.
[09:26] <dr_willis> penos_:  run it in virtulbox
[09:26] <dr_willis> virtualbox
[09:26] <penos> hi
[09:26] <penos> virtual box is good
[09:27] <kvothetech> penos: kvm is pretty much already built in
[09:27] <chesty> kvothetech: it's a bug with this particular hardware, it works fine for 99% of people
[09:27] <A1Recon> dr_willis: So they should update on their own?
[09:27] <kvothetech> chesty: ah ok
[09:27] <kvothetech> A1Recon: yes...that's what we already said...
[09:27] <dr_willis> A1Recon:  for the 4th time... YES
[09:27] <Rufus> hi
[09:28] <kvothetech> Rufus: hi
[09:28] <dr_willis> A1Recon:  thats like a MAJOR point of using a packageing manager system like APT
[09:28] <kvothetech> hmm he ddidn't even ask a questien
[09:29] <MortimerCat> Please can somewhere explain updates, ie I am sticking with 12.04 LTS, does this mean my PHP version is stuck at 5.3.10?
[09:29] <MortimerCat> I mean if I just stick to the default repositories, obviously I could upgrade PHP by itself.
[09:29] <kvothetech> MortimerCat: if it's the one in the repo then for now yes
[09:29] <dr_willis> MortimerCat:  unless theres some big reason.. ubuntu normally only updates versions of packages  with the next release.
[09:29] <dr_willis> !latest | MortimerCat
[09:30] <A1Recon> dr_willis: kvothetech: Sorry still a novice on Ubuntu.... I am trying to learn....sometimes its just downright confusing... Thanks for your help....
[09:30] <kvothetech> A1Recon: what's confusing..
[09:30] <penos> how to run ms dos in linux?
[09:30] <penos> *in ubuntu
[09:30] <kvothetech> penos: again kvm/vbox
[09:30] <kvothetech> Rufus: wb
[09:30] <dr_willis> A1Recon:  works basically like  how steam, or your android market does ...  the market app  handles all the updates as needed...
[09:30] <llutz> !info dosbox | penos
[09:30] <Rufus> thanks
[09:31] <kvothetech> penos: or that
[09:32] <A1Recon> kvothetech: So many softwares for ubuntu, (and I have been a Win7 user since Kindergarten) and all the ways to install them. Its confusing but I am learning...
[09:32] <dr_willis> freedos in vbox ;)
[09:32] <voxadam> Does anyone know of a command line program to rename MP3 files using the ID3 data that they are tagged with?
[09:32] <kvothetech> dr_willis: what's vbox have kvm doesnt if you don't mind me asking
[09:32] <dr_willis> compared to all the confuseing things you have to do in windows.. :)
[09:32] <dr_willis> kvothetech:  its kooler. :)  then again.. its all i really use..
[09:32] <dr_willis> so that makes it cooler.
[09:32] <kvothetech> voxadam: mediainfo shows all that info you could use that mv and grep ...
[09:33] <kvothetech> dr_willis: lol i'm just asking cause far as i can tell it's more or less built in whereas vbox isnt
[09:33] <llutz> voxadam: http://superuser.com/questions/555401/linux-command-line-tool-to-batch-rename-mp3-files-based-on-id3-tag-info-or-give
[09:33] <dr_willis> voxadam:  there are several mp3 renamer tools in the repos..
[09:33] <voxadam> kvothetech: Thanks. I'll take a look at that. I'm sure it'll take me some time as I'm not a shell guru but it'll be a learning experience.
[09:33] <dr_willis> kvothetech:  ive never really messed with kvm. but i tend to run vbox  in windows - to run linux...
[09:33] <voxadam> dr_willis: Thanks.
[09:34] <kvothetech> dr_willis: oh..you run windows not inux :(
[09:34] <dr_willis> or use vbox to test out live iso files
[09:34] <Fazer2> hey, can I download library sources from package manager? (i.e. synaptic)
[09:34] <dr_willis> kvothetech:  depds on which desk im at. ;)
[09:34] <Fazer2> or from terminal
[09:34] <kvothetech> Fazer2: huh you can dl source only not install it
[09:35] <dr_willis> Fazer2:  sudo apt-get build-dep packagename    or         theres some download source option i recall
[09:35] <dr_willis> Fazer2:  depending on exactly what you want to do
[09:35] <dr_willis> !source
[09:35] <llutz> apt-get source foo
[09:35] <voxadam> dr_willis: Thanks. I don't know why I didn't just search. It looks like id3ren does what I need.
[09:35] <Fazer2> kvothetech: I want to look at Botan sources (not header files)
[09:36] <kvothetech> Fazer2: then dl the source git svn or the above..
[09:37] <kvothetech> voxadam: it's ok a lot of people here haven't read he basic 'how to ask questions the smart way' doc...
[09:37] <Fazer2> llutz: thanks
[09:39] <dr_willis> that build-dep option to apt - can save a lot of time if you are trying to recompile somthing. ;)
[09:39] <dr_willis> assuming it has an older version in the repos
[09:40] <kvothetech> dr_willis: but that assumes apt knows what compile options you want...
[09:40] <kvothetech> or are using
[09:40] <schnitzel-> quick queestion. why is the latest 13.04 64bit image named sth with AMD?
[09:40] <schnitzel-> i have an intel but 64 bit?!
[09:40] <schnitzel-> or i am just stupid?
[09:40] <kvothetech> schnitzel-: because amd made the first 64 bit and you might be we dont know..
[09:41] <schnitzel-> hehe i might. yes.
[09:41] <schnitzel-> sometimes i am. very.
[09:41] <kvothetech> schnitzel-: it's always been amd64 orx86_64  ...
[09:41] <llutz> schnitzel-: amd64 is fine if you don't have an itanium
[09:41] <schnitzel-> well. not the proud owner of a 64 bit system for long..so i wont know.
[09:41] <schnitzel-> but the name is not good anyways. just cause they did it first?!
[09:42] <schnitzel-> i downloaded the image. raged cause it "was the wrong". deleted it...
[09:42] <schnitzel-> well. now i am donlwoading it again lol
[09:42] <dr_willis> its been called that for.. like  5+ years? ;)
[09:42] <kvothetech> schnitzel-: intels version is entirely compatible.....i think amd allows bulldozer and intel allows hyperthreading...
[09:42] <kvothetech> dr_willis: more like 10 now..2002/3
[09:42] <dr_willis> intel licensed the 64bit extensions from AMD i belive is what the wiki pedia stuff says
[09:42] <dr_willis> kvothetech:  NOW i feel old!   get off my lawn!
[09:43] <schnitzel-> kk. so you would recommend to install the amd image for 64 if you have a 64 bit machine? and not the standard 32bit image?
[09:43] <llutz> schnitzel-: yes
[09:43] <kvothetech> dr_willis: lol i'm an ancient 23 and i know that..
[09:43] <schnitzel-> thank you.
[09:43] <schnitzel-> :D
[09:43] <dr_willis> i use 64bit os on all 64bit hardware
[09:43] <schnitzel-> perfect. well. the name still sucks :P and thank you again ;)
[09:43] <kvothetech> schnitzel-: yes..use 64 if you have 64 bit unless you have a good reason not to and if you have to ask you dont have one
[09:43] <dr_willis> name makes perfect sense
[09:44] <schnitzel-> maybe to you. to me it suggest its build specialy for amd hardware.
[09:44] <schnitzel-> so i searched for a "intel 64bit version"....
[09:44] <dr_willis> there is no need for any special amd builds in anything that ive seen.. in decades
[09:44] <schnitzel-> so why the name? :p
[09:45] <schnitzel-> well. nvm ;)
[09:45] <kvothetech> schnitzel-: it's always been amd64 or x86_64
[09:45] <dr_willis> schnitzel-:  because amd  came out with the 64bit extensions.. and its what intel licensed
[09:45] <schnitzel-> okokok
[09:45] <dr_willis> i dont have time to find thee wikipedia entry ;)
[09:46] <kvothetech> dr_willis: they actually do have there own version..just other than the itanium and a few others nothing really uses it
[09:46] <schnitzel-> haha no need to
[09:46] <schnitzel-> i believe you
[09:49] <kvothetech> i don't believe me
[09:50] <augustin> hello everybody, first time trying xubuntu here
[09:51] <mallta> quit
[09:51] <kvothetech> augustin: it's the first time..all right yeah yeah..yeah .
[09:51] <rurufufuss> can anyone tell me the possible reasons ./binary does not work and I get "no such file or directory" ?
[09:51] <rurufufuss> I did export PATH=`pwd` and it still doesn't work :/
[09:52] <dr_willis> use he right name.. make it executable.. and verify its valid executable. ;)'
[09:52] <dr_willis> bbl
[09:53] <nicekiwi> there’s a steam window on my screen, but I cant findout what is in it. its just black and I cant right click it or select it in alt + tab
[09:53] <llutz> rurufufuss: "file ./binary" and "uname -m" say what
[09:53] <nicekiwi> how can I get info about it?
[09:55] <kvothetech> rurufufuss: if you're in a 64 bit system it's a 32 bit binary (vise versa) is it chmod +x in acl/standard permissions
[09:55] <rurufufuss> I got elf 32 bit, and x86_64
[09:56] <llutz> rurufufuss: you'll need 32bit support, multiarch
[09:56] <rurufufuss> llutz: can I enable 32 bit support without uninstalling?
[09:56] <kvothetech> nicekiwi: xprop
[09:56] <Arsene_> y'a qqn?
[09:57] <kvothetech> rurufufuss: add the 32 bit libs (multilib) or make a chroot
[09:57] <llutz> rurufufuss: what does "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures"  say?
[09:57] <kvothetech> nicekiwi: should tell you anything and everything about it
[09:58] <nicekiwi> kvmadsen, hmm.. :P gives me some info. Not really sure what im seeing though ha ha
[09:58] <rurufufuss> llutz: it says i386
[09:59] <rurufufuss> sorry a bit slot, doing this over the phone with someone on skype :/
[09:59] <rurufufuss> slow* rather
[09:59] <llutz> rurufufuss: so the binary you want to run was not installed using apt? get the missing libs manually  "ldd ./binary" tell you what you need
[09:59] <kvothetech> rurufufuss: why compile stuff for 386 if you have a 64 bit system you can use 686 compilation at least if you want the 32 bit version
[10:00] <rurufufuss> we're trying to run a legacy 32 bit binaryu
[10:00] <rurufufuss> llutz: is a binary for another massively legacytastic program
[10:00] <llutz> rurufufuss: but not installed from repos?
[10:02] <kvothetech> llutz: probably not....or he'd have the libs for it..revdep-rebuild would find link deps...
[10:02] <llutz> rurufufuss: so you have to clear the dependencies on your own, have fun.
[10:03] <rurufufuss> okay thanks
[10:03] <mah454> Hello , I have Laptop Vostro 3350 with Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series . I installed amd-catalyst-13.4-linux-x86.x86_64.run but after install X server do not start ! this is Xorg.log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5673592/
[10:03] <mah454> How can fix this problem ?
[10:04] <[FreeBSD]> mah454: you shouldnt really install stuff by hand
[10:04] <punxos> Hi
[10:04] <mogmog_> hi does anyone know why the second song and the rest in playlist in parole has no sound even though they're played?
[10:04] <mah454> [FreeBSD]: why ?
[10:04] <[FreeBSD]> mah454: "fgl.renamed.libglx"
[10:04] <[FreeBSD]> dno what that is
[10:05] <[FreeBSD]> mah454: because it wont be managed
[10:05] <mah454> [FreeBSD]: How can fix it ?
[10:06] <mah454> Or How can install ATI driver on ubuntu 13.04 ?
[10:06] <[FreeBSD]> if that script has an uninstall, do that first
[10:06] <mah454> [FreeBSD]: and .... ?
[10:07] <[FreeBSD]> try to find a proper one in the repo
[10:07] <[FreeBSD]> it might blacklist stuff / set things up for you
[10:08] <[FreeBSD]> do you need this for games or anything like that? because the open source ati driver is meant to be good
[10:08] <punxos> I am using a 64 bits version with the debug "libc6-dbg" pacakge. I compile the same application to 32 bits (-m32) but I can't debug because I can't find the 32 bit debug version of glibc. Anyone know where I can found it ?
[10:12] <mah454> [FreeBSD]: apt-get install fglrx , it's true ?
[10:12] <[FreeBSD]> yes that sounds right
[10:12] <[FreeBSD]> then reboot
[10:14] <Fazer2> is there an app for displaying crypto certificates? on windows, it is built-in like this http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/windows_update_certificate.png
[10:15] <mah454> I will come back ...
[10:15] <mah454> Bye.
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> sounds folder on chat2 doesnt exist, does it need another download for sounds?
[10:18] <JesperHansen> any channel to discuss https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-1305-chromium-default-browser?
[10:19] <mah454> aticonfig --initial -f -----> "aticonfig: No supported adapters detected"
[10:20] <DJones> JesperHansen: Either #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss is probably best for that sort of discussion
[10:21] <JesperHansen> DJones: salute
[10:22] <kvothetech> JesperHansen: what about it
[10:28] <phyphor> ANyone have any experience setting up 13.04 as a PXEInstallServer?
[10:28] <phyphor> (if so, any advice they can offer would be gratefully received)
[10:33] <sere> my dog just took a poop right next to me on my bed.... /killall 9- dog
[10:44] <xorox90> I'm experiencing very very interesting situation, when I nmap to my sambar server with directly connected wan, 455 port filtered, but when I namp with with connected lan (with router) suddenly 455 port open, Is there default firewall setting in ubuntu..? (Iptables -L show nothing...)
[10:44] <jrib> xorox90: there are no firewall rules by default (as you saw in the iptables output)
[10:45] <xorox90> then why... 455 port filtered without router 455 port open with router it is very very strange....
[10:45] <jrib> xorox90: probably some setting on your router
[10:45] <phyphor> xorox90: is the router doing PAT?
[10:45] <xorox90> PAT?
[10:46] <phyphor> port address translation
[10:46] <phyphor> so you hit the router on port 455 but it translated it to a different port or destination
[10:46] <ubuntu13245> hez
[10:46] <ubuntu13245> hey
[10:47] <ubuntu13245> quick question. the 1305 verion is the firts with uefi support?
[10:47] <ubuntu13245> 1304 i mean
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu13245: seems to be in Quantal too
[10:47] <phyphor> xorox90: if port 455 isn't open on the server, but it appears to be when you go through the router the likely explanation is that the router isn't passing the traffic as expected to the same server - it might be pushing it to a different host, or to a different port
[10:48] <Hounddog> hmmm having the problem now that i cannot install cause i have no network...
[10:48] <phyphor> xorox90: it's not the only explanation, but I'd check the router
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Hounddog: its optional, unless you are using minimal
[10:48] <xorox90> jrib: phyphor: yeah you are right, another server(my IDC server) nmap show result 455 filtered
[10:48] <xrfang> hi there,  when I run smbmount it told me command not found (13.04). I have two questions: 1) which package is this command in? 2) why ubuntu do not prompt me which package to install (my office pc runs 13.04 do the command not found package hint). thanks!
[10:48] <Hounddog> ActionParsnip: i dont understand
[10:48] <ubuntu13245> ActionParsnip,  which version is quantal again_
[10:49] <xorox90> then maybe my routher do somethings..
[10:49] <ubuntu13245> i am not sued to the animal names
[10:49] <Hounddog> am using the live cd and there while trying the os i have no internet connection
[10:49] <ubuntu13245> its the LTS, right_
[10:49] <Hounddog> yes, am using lts
[10:50] <Hounddog> 12.04.2
[10:50] <Hounddog> usb ports also switch off after a few seconds
[10:50] <Hounddog> or at least my mouse does
[10:51] <phyphor> So, err, anyone have experience setting up a newly set up 13.04 server to be a PXE Install Server?
[10:52] <phyphor> There are various guides but they are outdated (referring to old packages) and I'd rather follow known good directions than muddle through
[10:55] <abdelkarim> hi
[10:56] <phyphor> I'm going to assume the deafening silence means I'm on my own :(
[11:00] <asdfasdfg> hey
[11:00] <asdfasdfg> i've got a lenovo w510 with nvidia quadro graphics and am not able to get brightness control to work
[11:01] <asdfasdfg> its ubuntu 13.04 amd64 and i've tried the enable-brightness-control thingy inside /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ without success - X11 wont start in normal mode after inserting that line
[11:01] <asdfasdfg> grub parameters did not help either
[11:02] <asdfasdfg> brightness is always on maximum setting
[11:02] <asdfasdfg> does anyone have an idea on that?
[11:03] <sere> asdfasdfg: i have had that before and if I remember correctly i had to manually change the config for nvidia-settings
[11:03] <asdfasdfg> sere do you remember any more details?
[11:04] <Hounddog> hmmm the terminal also seems to be starting but closing right after
[11:04] <Hounddog> cannot get to the console
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Hounddog: can you open xterm?
[11:06] <Hounddog> ActionParsnip: just tried, nope
[11:07] <Hounddog> ActionParsnip: not installed ubuntu yet though... wanted to test some things before
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Hounddog: have you editted ~/.bashrc recently?
[11:07] <Hounddog> nothing just started the livecd
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Hounddog: try updating the gnome-terminal package using software centre
[11:07] <Hounddog> ActionParsnip: let me check that one
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Hounddog: or press CTRL+ALT+F1 and use apt-get
[11:08] <sere> asdfasdfg: check your ~ for the nvidia-settings config file.. nvidia-settings was changing the brightness for me it was locked on high..but editing the source fixed this
[11:09] <Hounddog> ActionParsnip: apt-get update already gives me squashfs error ..
[11:09] <Kartagis> why do I have two folders under /media/, which are /MYUSBDRIVE/ and /MYUSERNAME/MYUSDRIVE ?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Hounddog: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gnome-terminal xterm
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: does your usb storage have 2 partitions?
[11:09] <nitin__> hello
[11:09] <nitin__> i have deployed 2 application one on port 80 and another on 3030
[11:09] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: no
[11:10] <Hounddog> squashfs error: unable to read fragment cache entry ...
[11:10] <nitin__> application on port 80 is running fine
[11:10] <nitin__> but on 3030 is not working
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Hounddog: so you are running in liveCD?
[11:10] <Hounddog> ActionParsnip: yes
[11:10] <nitin__> please suggest the solution
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Hounddog: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[11:10] <Hounddog> ActionParsnip: nope
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> Hounddog: hen how do you know the data was complete and consistant?
[11:11] <Hounddog> ActionParsnip: i dont know ;p will check on that once
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> nitin__: nmap the server, see what ports are listening
[11:11] <sere> sudo apt-get install nmap
[11:12] <nitin__> ActionParsnip,  installed nmap
[11:12] <nitin__> how to check the ports
[11:12] <nitin__> ?
[11:13] <phyphor> man nmap :)
[11:13] <ishan> unny
[11:13] <ishan> sunny
[11:13] <Mrokii> Hello. What can I do (besides rebooting) if my USB card reader doesn't recognise an SD card? It randomly stops recognising it.
[11:13] <nitin__> nmap
[11:14] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: I did sudo apt-get upgrade as you suggested, but the package didn't get upgraded :S
[11:15] <Hounddog> ActionParsnip: thx though, am verifying that now
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: unload then relaod the usb_storage module (check loaded modules first for exact name)
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: which package?
[11:16] <UbuNoobu> Hi all - dual-booting on external drive going well after few issues. I'm about to move the HDD to internal, anyone got ideas or knowledge on this?
[11:16] <nitin__> ActionParsnip,  thanks
[11:16] <nitin__> found the solution
[11:16] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: mixxx
[11:16] <nitin__> ActionParsnip,  how can i enable port 3030 as it is not listed in nmap
[11:16] <nitin__> ?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> nitin__: run an application that listens on that port
[11:17] <asdfasdfg> sere i've got ~/.nvidia-settings-rc
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> nitin__: you cannot just "enable a port" if a service is not listening on that port then connecting to it will do nothing
[11:17] <nitin__> ActionParsnip, i means port 3030 is not listed in nmap
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> nitin__: yes because no application is listening on it
[11:18] <nitin__> ActionParsnip, but  i have set the application on port 3030
[11:18] <asdfasdfg> sere anyhow there is nothing in there on brightness
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> nitin__: then check its config
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> nitin__: and check it is running
[11:18] <sere> asdfasdfg: thats it. now see if the settings for brightness are the same for the actaul program
[11:18] <Kartagis> The following packages have been kept back: <--- how can I resolve this?
[11:19] <Hounddog> ActionParsnip: checksum is same and i downloaded the 13.04 not the lts...
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: some packages have unsatisfied deps
[11:19] <nitin__> ActionParsnip,  i have interchanged the application on port 3030 and 80
[11:19] <UbuNoobu> will moving my external HD with 12.04 running as dual-boot with Win7; will moving HDD to internal have adverse effects?  I suppose if Drive number and partition letters change I could have issues?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: until the deps in the repos are met, the packages will be held back
[11:19] <asdfasdfg> there are no brightness controls in thee
[11:19] <asdfasdfg> neither in nvidia-settings nor in the config file
[11:19] <nitin__> application on port 80 runs well but not on 303
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> nitin__: all I can suggest is check your configs
[11:19] <Hounddog> i should propably rather use the lts version or?
[11:20] <nitin__> ActionParsnip,  thanks ... issue resolved by port 8080 for the timebeig
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Hounddog: I recommend LTS to normal users
[11:20] <Kartagis> dist-upgrade does the trick
[11:20] <Hounddog> well not normal user... i use it for developing but i am, not into all the nitty grittys
[11:20] <Hounddog> so yeah
[11:20] <sere> asdfasdfg: strange/ they are there for me
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Hounddog: 13.04 is supported til Jan 2014, 12.04 is supported til April 2017. Depends if you want to be upgrading 13.04 once it dies etc. Both are fine though
[11:23] <arcripex> guys i need help
[11:24] <arcripex> (ubuntu software centre) failed to download packages.....check your internet connection ERRORS
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> arcripex: please use a pastebin and give the output of:  sudo apt-get update
[11:24] <Hounddog> ActionParsnip: i checked the wrong iso anyhow... checked the one on laptop not on desktop :) getting confused here what is on what system lol
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> arcripex: close software centre first
[11:24] <arcripex> ActionParsnip: i have what next
[11:25] <Hounddog> ActionParsnip: is the lts and checksum is ok
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> acrocity: can you paste the pastebin URL here please
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Hounddog: good, please make sure you check before burning so you know the data is ok
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Hounddog: log off and you can select the 2D session, may help
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> arcripex:  can you paste the pastebin URL here please
[11:27] <Hounddog> ActionParsnip: i created the live usb with lili
[11:27] <seba4> hi there... i am trying to install package with command sudo -u gitlab -H gem install charlock_holmes --version '0.6.8'
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Hounddog: as long as it boots its fine, try the 2D session
[11:27] <seba4> but i am getting this code after 1 gem installed
[11:28] <seba4> unable to convert "\x98" from ASCII-8BIT to UTF-8 for ext/charlock_holmes/src/file-5.08/src/file, skipping
[11:29] <Hounddog> ActionParsnip: sorry for asking but how do i get to the  2d session?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Hounddog: click the ubuntu logo near your username in lightdm
[11:29] <Hounddog> thx
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> they really need to make that session-selection-button MUCH more obvious..
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: little bit
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> but i tend to use GDM. ;) its much more obvious there.
[11:30] <arcripex> ActionParsnip: here please http://pastebin.com/uNW9TXvd
[11:30] <Hounddog> i have installed ubuntu a few times but never saw this option
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> its not like the lightdm screen is cramped on space..
[11:31] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: Can you tell me how to do that? Unloading/reloading the usb_storage module?
[11:31] <Hounddog> Dr_Willis: :)
[11:31] <Hounddog> hmm
[11:32] <Hounddog> getting new things everytime... failed to load ubuntu session
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: is that the actual module name though
[11:32] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: I have no clue
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> arcripex: looks fine to me, is the error gone now
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: lsmod | grep usb
[11:33] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: There is a module named "usb_storage"
[11:33] <arcripex> ActionParsnip: no in USC....errors failed to download package please check internet connection :/
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: sudo modprobe -r usb_storage; sleep 2; sudo modprobe usb_storage
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> night all...
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> arcripex: not used USC, too slow. There are some sources being ignored (as you can see from your output)
[11:34] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: It helped! Thanks!
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: and you learned about kernel modules a little
[11:35] <Aethysius> Question.
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> arcripex: could try: wget https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[11:36] <Aethysius> I switched my Ubuntu install to Kubuntu. Is there a quick way for me to fully delete the other desktop environments?
[11:36] <arcripex> ActionParsnip: so how i downlaod those programs installed frm USC
[11:36] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: Yeah, thanks. :)
[11:37] <llutz> Aethysius: not sure if this still does the job, read http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekubuntu
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> arcripex: i use apt-get in command line
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> arcripex: did my script hel pany?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> *help any
[11:38] <arcripex> ActionParsnip: its still running, after that i do what?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> arcripex: try the software centre as you expect, basically it removes all package knowledge from your OS and then redownloads fresh
[11:40] <arcripex> ActionParsnip: ok will try and get back to you thanks in advance
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> arcripex: that script is badass, its basically the package fix commands in a script for convenience
[11:41] <Aethysius> llutz, no, it doesn't.
[11:42] <Hounddog> ActionParsnip: on boot i set acpi=off now it seems to be working
[11:42] <Aethysius> It's okay.
[11:43] <UbuNoobu> can I make drive/partition letters/numbers permanent - so when add/remove HDD's the /dev/sdb stays as 'b' and not be renamed as sdbc or whatever after restart?
[11:43] <llutz> UbuNoobu: use labels or UUIDs, not device-names. then you don't have to care about that
[11:45] <starbuck> hi, could it be that the last kernel update was just 2 days ago for 12.10 and now today there's already another one? why???
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:48] <PoolShark_> so I have xubuntu precise and for some reason I can't move windows at all... I googled a bunch of stuff and tried a few things related to compiz that were suggested and none of it worked... so...help? :)
[11:48] <Pertanbus> Hey! I've some problems trying to install ubuntu (tried everything between 10.04-13.04) on a HP ProLiant DL360 G4, anyone feeling like helping me out?:)
[11:49] <PoolShark_> Pertanbus: what problems?
[11:50] <Pertanbus> PoolShark_: What ever I do, I end up with the monitor giving me the message "input out of range". The tricky part is that I've installed ubuntu on this server once earlier, and I did not have to problem back then.
[11:51] <PoolShark_> Pertanbus: Do a text install
[11:51] <PoolShark_> Pertanbus: then figure out what modelines your monitor can support and limit X to those
[11:51] <Aethysius> I'm using Banshee, and it's not detecting my Sansa mass storage player.
[11:51] <jnhghy> can a user that has no write privilages over a directory but has read privilages delete it?
[11:51] <PoolShark_> Aethysius: you sure your Sansa is in UMS mode?
[11:52] <Aethysius> One sec.
[11:52] <Pertanbus> PoolShark_: I'll check that out, thanks.
[11:52] <PoolShark_> Aethysius: the newer Sansa firmware no longer supports UMS, so if you have upgraded, it won't work
[11:52] <Aethysius> :(
[11:53] <PoolShark_> (just like Android no longer supports UMS, which is retarded)
[11:56] <B_boy> ау есть кто?
[11:56] <B_boy> ребята!
[11:59] <antoniomichele> ciao
[11:59] <antoniomichele> list
[11:59] <antoniomichele> la nuova squadra
[12:01] <blz> Hello!  I have a somewhat inter-jurisdictional question... How does one install the boost program options library under ubuntu latest?
[12:02] <seronis> its not included with  'sudo apt-get install boost-dev'  or similar ?
[12:02] <seronis> ((im gonna be installing boost later today too))
[12:02] <blz> seronis, it may be =)  I'm horrifically new to C++, so I'm just getting my bearings...
[12:02] <blz> seronis, I'll start with boost-dev and see what happens =)
[12:04] <seronis> im not new, but havent used it in about 3 years and only recently adopted xubuntu.   program options is the command line parsing lib right ?
[12:04] <seronis> if so at least -some- version of that lib should be in the standard install even if the repo version of boost isnt the latest
[12:04] <antoniomichele> la nuova squadra(telefilm)
[12:05] <blz> seronis, yes, that's correct.  Apparently libboost-program-options is a thing
[12:05] <Myrtti> !list > antoniomichele
[12:05] <blz> seronis, also, it's not installed with libboost-dev ... fyi.
[12:06] <seronis> libboost-all-dev
[12:07] <seronis> hmm that metapackage seems to be pointing to 1.49 versions of the libs even though 1.53 seems to be in repo too
[12:10] <antoniomichele> àààààààààà
[12:10] <antoniomichele> #ubunnto
[12:11] <antoniomichele> #ubunto
[12:15] <Hounddog> ActionParsnip: apparently there seems to be trouble with my mobo... thats why no ethernet connection
[12:24] <{BackBox}> userhost / userip
[12:26] <Pertanbus> PoolShark_:Now I managed to install Ubuntu Server 13.04, but when I boot, I still get the out of range error.
[12:28] <xlaire> how to start linux scripting?
[12:28] <PoolShark_> Pertanbus: it's probably in frame buffer mode rather than text console mode... what kind of monitor are you using?
[12:28] <Pertanbus> A 24" LCD 1920x1200.
[12:28] <Pertanbus> PoolShark_:^
[12:29] <PoolShark_> yeah that's odd
[12:29] <data> hi, i have a problem in raring. my mouse is hidden when using java-applications, i.e. in their area
[12:29] <PoolShark_> I think most LCDs want a 60Hz refresh rate or something like that
[12:29] <PoolShark_> the video card is probably getting put into something higher
[12:29] <Pertanbus> PoolShark_: I got past it by pressing enter only, I guess it's grub that's freaking out..
[12:30] <Pertanbus> PoolShark_: Well, It's just the integrated video chip in an old ProLiant, I don't think it's configured for higher..
[12:30] <PoolShark_> try this kernel boot parameter:
[12:31] <Mittelerde> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions  ?
[12:31] <PoolShark_> video=DVI-D:1920x1200@60
[12:31] <PoolShark_> and see if that help
[12:32] <Pertanbus> PoolShark_: Sorry, but where should I put that? In grub config=?
[12:32] <Darkphat> hi
[12:32] <PoolShark_> yeah wherever you put kernel boot parameters
[12:32] <PoolShark_> not sure if that's the right place or not
[12:32] <Pertanbus> PoolShark_: I have no idea, just got it running >_> Cannot remember what I did last time.
[12:33] <Pertanbus> PoolShark_: Could it be this simple? http://askubuntu.com/questions/54067/how-do-i-safely-change-grub2-screen-resolution
[12:34] <muculus> I need ppa of latest version of mysql 5.6, I didnt find it in launchpad.
[12:37] <data> no ideas?
[12:38] <ActionPa1snip> data: about what
[12:38] <PoolShark_> Pertanbus: you need to be able to set the refresh rate I think
[12:38] <Pertanbus> PoolShark_: Yeah, my monitor says its at H:46.3 and V:43 hz.
[12:40] <Pertanbus> How am I supposed to change the refresh rate if I cannot see a thing?
[12:41] <data> ActionPa1snip: "hi, i have a problem in raring. my mouse is hidden when using java-applications, i.e. in their area"
[12:42] <ActionPa1snip> data: which java are you using?
[12:42] <usr13> Pertanbus: Not sure what you are trying to do but, you can add kernel paramaters to the end of the kernel line in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[12:42] <data> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.3.9) (7u21-2.3.9-1ubuntu1)
[12:42] <ActionPa1snip> data: tried the Oracle Java?
[12:42] <dakira> hey. is there an irc channel for ubuntu phone development / ubuntu touch qml sdk?
[12:43] <ActionPa1snip> dakira: #ubuntu-phone maybe
[12:43] <data> is there a package for that?
[12:43] <usr13> Pertanbus: What do you see when you boot up?
[12:43] <ActionPa1snip> data: webupd8 has a PPA with it
[12:44] <dakira> ActionPa1snip: thx.. redirected me to #ubuntu-touch ;)
[12:44] <cfhowlett> !touch|dakira,
[12:44] <data> ActionPa1snip: ok, will look for that first, and come back if it isn't solved by that, thanks
[12:44] <giovannix9> ciao!
[12:44] <giovannix9> !list
[12:44] <usr13> Pertanbus: But you can test it when  you boot, stop the process and edit the kernel line
[12:46] <[freirefellipe]> Good day, everyone. I have LAMP and FTP servers installed on my Ubuntu 12.04. I would like to know how do I shut them off for a while so I could save processes on the system. Thank you in advance.
[12:47] <ActionPa1snip> [freirefellipe]: stop the services, you can do this via SSH
[12:47] <ruconse> does anyone know how to disable a driver/module on grub? Does it dpend on the driver parm?
[12:47] <ActionPa1snip> [freirefellipe]: the services themselves are quite light, its only when they start doing stuff that they will start using stuff more
[12:48] <ActionPa1snip> ruconse: you can add the boot option:  modulename.blacklist=1
[12:48] <ActionPa1snip> ruconse: eg:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[12:49] <ruconse> ActionPa1snip: thanks :)
[12:50] <[freirefellipe]> ActionPa1snip: Do the '$ sudo service apache2 stop' command work even after reboot? I wish I could turn them off until I want them back.
[12:51] <adam_> Hey, can anyone help me with this? I'm trying to change the color of Applet context menu font or background, I'm using two themes that use similar colors and there's no contrast, as seen here http://i.imgur.com/9tySBEi.png
[12:51] <ActionPa1snip> [freirefellipe]: it will start at reboot as the startup process is told to start it
[12:51] <ak5> any ppa for apache 2.4 ?
[12:51] <ak5> I saw one that was last updated 46 weeks ago :(
[12:52] <[freirefellipe]> ActionPa1snip: Hmm.. startup process. Clarifying. Thank you, friend!
[12:54] <adam_> Hey, can anyone help me with this? I'm trying to change the color of Applet context menu font or background, I'm using two themes that use similar colors and there's no contrast, as seen here http://i.imgur.com/9tySBEi.png
[12:54] <llutz> [freirefellipe]: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[12:56] <[freirefellipe]> llutz: Thank you very much. This is efficiency.
[12:57] <llutz> [freirefellipe]: the cookbook might be confusing, but it seems to be the only real useful documentation for upstart
[12:58] <dakotawulfy> adam  u could edit the settings.ini  to make it what u want
[12:58] <gear4> Hi, I'm on Ubuntu 13.04 x64. I used "apt-get dist-upgrade" and it went smooth, but when I rebooted suddenly Unity panels are missing and Compiz doesn't work. Anyone can help me?
[12:58] <dakotawulfy> adam or maybe the gtkrc
[12:59] <adam_> where can i find settings.ini?
[12:59] <dakotawulfy> adam in the theme
[12:59] <adam_> alright I'll take a look thanks
[13:00] <dakotawulfy> adam is the theme local  or default theme from set up?
[13:00] <btorch> anyone here has an r720 dell box with 12.04 and the 6gbs SAS controller ?
[13:00] <btorch> the LSI SAS1068E fusion-mpt ?
[13:00] <dakotawulfy> adam check here /usr/share/themes/
[13:01] <btorch> for some reason none of the tools I used lsiutil, mpt-status, omsa tools .. none can find the hba .. ubuntu sees it just fine though and drives are availale but I can't manage them unless I go into the hba bios
[13:02] <adam_> I'm using the FlatStudio theme with Faenza Dark icons.
[13:03] <gear4> Hi, I'm on Ubuntu 13.04 x64. I used "apt-get dist-upgrade" and it went smooth, but when I rebooted suddenly Unity panels are missing and Compiz doesn't work. Anyone can help me?
[13:04] <cfhowlett> gear4, try this: logout.  choose an alternate (non-unity) desktop environment.  login.  then repeat the process and choose unity
[13:04] <gear4> will do
[13:10] <gear4> it never worked, cinnamon and GNOME fallback crashes
[13:10] <gear4> hello
[13:11] <cfhowlett> gear4, so NO desktop environment at all?
[13:11] <zerogh> gear4
[13:12] <geekbri> Has anybody had the issue with ubuntu 12.04 LTS where when you create an SSH session it doesn't seem to load or respect the pam limits module even though sshd in /etc/pam.d does indeed contain a require for the limits module?
[13:12] <gear4> cfhowlett: I can get one but it crashes soon
[13:13] <cfhowlett> zerogh, you got ideas?  I'm on xubuntu so my experience is limited ...
[13:13] <gear4> right now there's a pop-up saying "Sorry, Ubuntu 13.04 has experienced an internal error"
[13:13] <ddssc> when running apt-get install apgdiff I get http://pastebin.com/mGybh2sE . how should I proceed?
[13:14] <gear4> cfhowlett: on GNOME I get gnome-panel crashing, Cinnamon same, and on Unity it's Compiz
[13:15] <cfhowlett> gear4, keep asking in the channel.  this one is over my head.
[13:15] <gear4> oky, thanks
[13:15] <sonOfRa> Is it possible to configure a Wireless network to only connect, if there is no wired connection available?
[13:15] <llutz> sonOfRa: that should be default
[13:15] <sonOfRa> Currenty both my wired connection and the wireless are connecting because both are available, but there is no need to have the wireless connection online
[13:16] <gear4> cfhowlett: do you mind c/p my question to me ? I can't remember the contents
[13:16] <sonOfRa> llutz, doesn't seem to be. On startup, it immediately connects to both
[13:16] <cfhowlett> gear4, just say : 13.04 internal error, desktop environment crashes.  also, screen shots would be nice
[13:17] <sonOfRa> this is on 13.04
[13:17] <llutz> sonOfRa: odd, it doesn't here (12.10)
[13:17] <gear4> cfhowlett: I can't take screenshots without a screen
[13:17] <sonOfRa> Both are set to "Connect automatically if available" of course
[13:17] <ddssc> apgdiff : Depends: default-jre-headless but it is not going to be installed or
[13:17] <ddssc>                     java2-runtime-headless .HALP
[13:17] <ddssc> should I just install that ?
[13:17] <sonOfRa> But I would expect it not to connect to wireless if it can find something that's wired
[13:17] <gear4> Unity doesn't have screen after ~2 seconds and GNOME fallback hardly works, and is laggy
[13:18] <gear4> anyway, thanks
[13:18] <gear4> 13.04 internal error, desktop environment crashes after dist-upgrade.
[13:18] <llutz> sonOfRa: true and thats how it worked here since 9.04 for me. sry, i cannot help
[13:24] <hulu> why the useradd don't copy file from /etc/skel
[13:24] <hulu> who can help me
[13:24] <vooze> After installing ubuntu with unity all was fine until i logged out after a few hours, and I was unable to load into unity. I tested with gnome shell and that just shows gnome-fallback, so I guess its graphics (Intel HD 4000) thats the problem. Any ideas how to solve somthing like this?
[13:25] <cfhowlett> gear4, zee vooze's issue.  seem familiar
[13:27] <JonathanD> can I make 13.04 remember where I put my external monitor?
[13:27] <JonathanD> So I don't have to move it every single morning?
[13:29] <troulouliou_dev> hi when i unplug and plug back my ethernet wire; the interface is not going up anymore until reboot, any idea ?
[13:33] <WormFood> I have an ubuntu system that was just upgraded, and now the screen resolution is super low. What is the ubuntu way to reset the screen resolution to the monitor default resolution? (also, nothing is showing on the 2nd monitor). This is the newest release of ubuntu, that just came out
[13:35] <jdoles> How can I configure Skype to use my microphone such that it keeps working?
[13:37] <jdoles> One of the problems with that GUI is that I cannot see when something is in the on state or not.
[13:38] <jdoles> There are two states and they look differently, but there is no reason to assume one it on and the other is off.
[13:38] <dakotawulfy> WormFood what video card do have?
[13:38] <adamk> WormFood: Sounds like there's sometihng weird with your video drivers.  Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[13:38] <WormFood> it's on-board...not sure if it is an ati or an nvidia (I don't have the computer in front of me)
[13:39] <dakotawulfy> WormFood should be able to install driver and go to settings  you can change all that stuff under there.
[13:40] <WormFood> and since the icons are not visible, there is no way to run a browser to pastebin it
[13:41] <adamk> WormFood: You don't need a browser.  You can use pastebinit from a console.
[13:42] <WormFood> I'm walking him through forwarding a port, so I can login to his computer, and see what exactly is going on myself (this may take a few minutes)
[13:43] <babilen> ddssc: Please ask your question in here
[13:45] <rosenzweig> I need a bit of help.
[13:45] <rosenzweig> I get to the login screen, I try logging in, and it just brings me back to the user account log in screen.
[13:45] <rosenzweig> The password is correct, but it just won't log me into my account.
[13:45] <rosenzweig> Now I can log into my guest account, just not my main account.
[13:45] <rosenzweig> None of the solutions online are working.
[13:46] <ddssc> when running apt-get install apgdiff I get http://pastebin.com/mGybh2sE . how should I proceed?
[13:46] <ddssc> babilen, when running apt-get install apgdiff I get http://pastebin.com/mGybh2sE . how should I proceed?
[13:46] <rosenzweig> Further on, I can log into my account via terminal, but not just through the graphic desktop environment.
[13:46] <rosenzweig> Which is extremely odd.
[13:46] <babilen> ddssc: Try updating your package cache and upgrading your box. But I don't know much about these Ubuntu specific packages and can't really help with them ...
[13:47] <bdavenport> rosenzweig, any errors reported by X/window manager?
[13:47] <rosenzweig> I'm not sure. How should I go about checking for those?
[13:47] <bdavenport> iv had that happen before and had to go chase updates
[13:48] <rosenzweig> I'd prefer to fix this fast. I want to Skype with my GF. :( Anyways, yeah, how do I do that?
[13:48] <rosenzweig> I can go into the console right now and plug whatever command you wish.
[13:48] <jdoles> Audacity works just with my microphone. How can I configure Skype to do that?
[13:48] <jdoles> just fine*
[13:48] <bdavenport> dont think its gonna be a fast fix, but check out /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:49] <bdavenport> see if there is anything in there that is an error
[13:49] <nb72> Is there an easy way to track system load? I'm trying to compaire performance between a couple different software packages. Performance testing basically.
[13:49] <bdavenport> also look at the files in /var/log/gdm
[13:49] <koskoz> where do I find this static option under Ubuntu 13? http://www.only10types.com/2011/06/ubuntu-1104-natty-slow-alttab-window.html
[13:50] <babilen> ddssc: Seriously, you run Ubuntu and if you don't like the level of support provided you should think about your choice of distribution.
[13:51] <rosenzweig> bdavenport, I'm not seeing anything weird.
[13:51] <rosenzweig> What should I primarily look for?
[13:52] <bdavenport> rosenzweig, hard to say, iv only had your issue once, and it was many months ago.  I just remember that it was a failed upgrade that caused a lib to be missing that caused gdm to not play nice on login
[13:52] <bdavenport> your best bet is to just read the logs
[13:52] <rosenzweig> I don't know what to look for with these logs.
[13:52] <rosenzweig> I'm going to be lost.
[13:52] <bdavenport> as I said, not likly fast fix till you know the full problem
[13:53] <rosenzweig> I think that's what happened to me.
[13:54] <WormFood> adamk, thanks for the reminder to check the x11 logs. I can't get into his system right now, so I'm gonna go over tomorrow afternoon, and get everything setup for him in person, since he is inexperienced, and it is too hard to work over the phone with him.
[13:55] <WormFood> the fun thing is, he needs to forward a port on his router, so I can ssh into his machine, but his router's configuration is ALL in Chinese (and he can't read Chinese)
[13:56] <WormFood> I'm lucky enough, I can figure out Chinese routers, even if I can't read anything (but I can read some)
[13:56] <bdavenport> WormFood, random and crazy idea, have him ssh out but open up a ssh tunnel that you can go back through and login that way, skipping the router
[13:56] <alexbligh> I'm trying to install package X with 'apt-get install X'. It tries to remove package Y which is for various reasons broken. X and Y are unrelated. Removing Y fails, so X doesn't get installed. Is there a way to just install X?
[13:56] <alexbligh> (apart from wget the .deb and dpkg -i - don't want to deal with dependencies)
[13:57] <WormFood> bdavenport, that is a good idea, however, he isn't even connected to the network for some reason. I told him if he can get it figured out on his own, to give me a call back, and we'll go from there, but I'm just planning on paying him a visit tomorrow afternoon
[13:57]  * bdavenport knew he should have tacked on a if pc is connected 
[13:58] <WormFood> he is not a real experienced linux user
[13:59] <WormFood> lucky for him, I am....but he is tired (it's 10pm here), and I don't feel like troubleshooting network issues over the phone
[13:59] <WormFood> sooooo....that means a house call tomorrow ;)
[13:59] <bdavenport> yeah, dont blame you for that one
[14:00] <bdavenport> free beer hopefully too ;)
[14:00] <WormFood> I've not seen his home setup before
[14:00] <WormFood> yeah, that'd be nice
[14:00] <WormFood> or free hash :D
[14:00] <res32> Hi, I need some help with broadcom wireless drivers on 13.04
[14:02] <res32> The propreitary driver in Additional Drivers has been installed but it says the devicce is using alternate driver
[14:03] <WLU> just did a rm -rf  /usr/share by accident any suggestion other the n a full reinstall
[14:03] <WormFood> restore from backup
[14:03] <rosenzweig> It fails to load fglrx.
[14:03] <rosenzweig> :\
[14:03] <rosenzweig> I think that's the problem.
[14:04] <res32> Any help with that wireless driver problem I gave?
[14:09] <rosenzweig> bdavenport, somehow my fglrx driver got fucked up.
[14:09] <rosenzweig> It makes kind of sense.
[14:09] <rosenzweig> But how am I able to log into this guest account then? :\
[14:09] <gear4> 13.04 internal error, desktop environment crashes after dist-upgrade.
[14:11] <h00k> rosenzweig: keep the language appropriate in here, please
[14:11] <rosenzweig> h00k, 'kay.
[14:16] <koskoz> where do I find this static option under Ubuntu 13? http://www.only10types.com/2011/06/ubuntu-1104-natty-slow-alttab-window.html
[14:25] <nb72> Is there an easy way to track system load (cpu, memory, disk IO) for somewhat short periods of time? I'm trying to compaire performance between a couple different software packages. Performance testing basically.
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> nb72  gkrell, conky
[14:28] <tomshreds> Hi
[14:28] <tomshreds> when using php-fpm, which freaking php.ini should I edit to get a change?
[14:29] <samuel_> anyone else having a problem with 13.04 where apps dont show in the dock when open?
[14:29] <nb72> conky looks like it does what I'm looking for, but it looks like it requires X and I'm running ubuntu-server. can't find anything on gkrell
[14:29] <samuel_> i'm talking, software center, image viewer (when viewing pdf)
[14:30] <nb72> tomshreds, if you create a php file with 'phpinfo()' call, it will tell you the location of the php.ini
[14:30] <tomshreds> ok thanks
[14:32] <mdfe> nb72, http://nmon.sourceforge.net/pmwiki.php
[14:33] <nb72> mdfe, Thanks, that looks just like what I'm looking for.
[14:33] <mdfe> nb72, you know htop can log as well, or you can redirect to a file
[14:34] <koskoz> is there a way to use a different alt-tab applicaiton in ubuntu 13? The default one (compiz one?) is so slow and buggy that's a shame
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> koskoz  compiz is a window manager, do you wish to replace compiz?
[14:36] <nb72> mdfe, didn't know that. Thanks. Although it looks like nmon has some nice tools to look at the data. Thanks for the help.
[14:36] <koskoz> MonkeyDust: I just wanna find a way to have a real alt-tab, like in Gnome. Not a slow and buggy one
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> koskoz  lubuntu and xubuntu are fast, so alt-tab will be fast too
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> as to the key combination: it's the same in every DE and if I'm not mistaking, in evey OS
[14:41] <koskoz> MonkeyDust: I'm not talking about Unity being slow are something related to the keys combination, I'm saying that the utility handling quick switching between programs is bugged and slow
[14:42] <yofun> is fgets a package? or something?
[14:43] <yofun> stdin_monitor_thread.cpp 84 run : fgets failed < is that a package thats needed or something?
[14:43] <koskoz> lot of tab my alt-tab just go behind every others opened programs, I can't see it but it still working. Very annoying...
[14:46] <ActionPa1snip> !find fgets
[14:50] <b3n> hi guys --- using 13.04 -- why are lokal pikture files not showing in photo lens ?
[14:50] <George_Henberg> Hi anyone here? Please help me. My brightness key doesn't work. It works fine in windows
[14:51] <lolalliance> have u tried via the settins?
[14:51] <George_Henberg> I'm using raring right now. Its not a new issue, its been longstanding.
[14:51] <George_Henberg> I'm using Acer Aspire 4736z
[14:51] <George_Henberg> yea, i've tried numerous methods found in the internet
[14:52] <George_Henberg> Everything failed to work.
[14:52] <George_Henberg> lolalliance: Any idea?
[14:53] <George_Henberg> Any help from anyone?
[14:55] <mad_> hi
[14:55] <George_Henberg> hi Mad_
[14:56] <b3n>  hi guys --- using 13.04 -- why are lokal pikture files not showing in photo lens ?
[14:59] <Manny> my rootdirectory filled up and then i freed some space and rebooted now i have some problems, its saying that mysql.sock is missing and apache2 as well as ssh dont work ... is there anyway to fix that ?
[15:00] <IsmAvatar> hey guys, just did a fresh install of Ubuntu 13.04, but when I log in, it seems like the gnome session immediately locks up. Unity displays, but the top bar doesn't show any icons (like the Gear that I use to reboot/shutdown). Mouse still functions.
[15:01] <IsmAvatar> and unity is unresponsive
[15:02] <gear4> hi, I found out how to get around my previous problem, of Ubuntu GUI crashing
[15:03] <gear4> what I did was I selected kernel 3.8.0-19 instead of 3.8.0-21, and used GNOME 3 as my GUI
[15:03] <bjrohan_> Help . .  I am looking for some direction. I am part of a small organization of 6 - 10 people. I am looking for a solution that will allow us to host  files (file server) and collaborate on files,   any suggestions where to start?
[15:03] <gear4> bjrohan_, Samba
[15:04] <IsmAvatar> Google Drive :-p
[15:04] <higli> hi i want to use normal ubuntu but i cant beacuse my wifi dosent wor it only works on zorinOS
[15:04] <higli> how to fix
[15:04] <gear4> higli, download it on the computer you're on now
[15:04] <bjrohan_> The other people are . .  technically inept. I tried Alfresco, which looked like it would work, but I would also like to implement a workflow for projects
[15:05] <gear4> bjrohan_, an old dog can learn new tricks. but hey, that's all I know of
[15:05] <bjrohan_> :-) thanks.
[15:05] <gear4> np
[15:06] <higli> gear4:  you dont understan i have live,ubuntu, kubuntu, kali and when i boot them i have no wifi  my wifi only works on ZorinOS so what is on zorin istalld so i can istall the same on ubuntu so it shoud work?
[15:06] <gear4> bjrohan_, in all honesty Samba is easy to use
[15:07] <gear4> higli, do you have LAN cables ?
[15:07] <gear4> if so, use those, and download the Additional Drivers
[15:07] <higli> gear4:  no
[15:07] <IsmAvatar> so how would I fix the gnome session immediately locking up upon login? (Fresh 13.04 install)
[15:07] <gear4> higli, then I don't know, sorry
[15:08] <gear4> higli, as far as I know it's the Additional Drivers that are needed
[15:08] <higli> gear4:  but now i am in zorin and when i click on adition driwers it doset show any
[15:08] <gear4> higli, I meant in Ubuntu
[15:08] <ActionPa1snip> higli: zorin isn't supported here
[15:08] <gear4> that's true as well
[15:09] <higli> ActionPa1snip:  i dont want to use zorin i want to use ubunt
[15:09] <ActionPa1snip> higli: what wifi chip are you using?
[15:10] <Manny> anyone has an idea how to get mysql ssh apache again working after "no disk space happened" after reboots (now there is space left)
[15:10] <higli> ralink rt3070 usb but linux uses rt2800sta and it works on zorin but not on ubuntu i think it hes somthing to do whit wpa_supplicat beacuse i see network but i cant connect it ask for passwor again and again
[15:11] <bjrohan_> higli: Does Samba allow for easy sharing permissions?
[15:11] <higli> bjrohan_:  i dont know what is samba
[15:11] <ActionPa1snip> bjrohan_: imho yes
[15:11] <rosenzweig> I still can't log into my admin account on Ubuntu.
[15:11] <rosenzweig> I wish I knew what was wrong.
[15:12] <ActionPa1snip> rosenzweig: drop to root recovery mode and you can use passwd there to reset user account passwords
[15:12] <Guest1859> hi  everyone
[15:12] <rosenzweig> My password sin't the problem.
[15:12] <rosenzweig> isn't*
[15:12] <higli> anybody help me?
[15:12] <rosenzweig> The password is fine, it just logs in and then brings me back to the log in page.
[15:12] <ActionPa1snip> higli: I asked you a question, you havem't replied
[15:13] <higli> ActionPa1snip:  i did
[15:13] <higli> ActionPa1snip: ralink rt3070 usb but linux uses rt2800sta and it works on zorin but not on ubuntu i think it hes somthing to do whit wpa_supplicat beacuse i see network but i cant connect it ask for passwor again and again
[15:13] <rosenzweig> ActionPa1snip, there's something wrong with a config file or package or something. When I log in, I get presented with this pretty black flash and then I'm returned to my login menu.
[15:14] <freebuf> hi
[15:15] <ActionPa1snip> higli: under zorin, run:  sudo lshw -C network    and make notes, then do the same in Ubuntu and compare
[15:15] <ActionPa1snip> rosenzweig: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 and log in there and run:  sudo chown $USER:$USER $HOME
[15:15] <rosenzweig> ActionPa1snip, tried that.
[15:16] <rosenzweig> To no success, unfortunately. :(
[15:16] <ActionPa1snip> rosenzweig: make sure your user is the owner of it's own home. You can run:  sudo reboot     and login
[15:16] <rosenzweig> I'll try again I suppose.
[15:16] <higli> ActionPa1snip:  what hes this to do wht wpa suplicant
[15:17] <rosenzweig> Should user be my username or no?
[15:18] <Nothing_Much> rosenweig, I'd prefer "owner"
[15:18] <rosenzweig> Either way, I'm going to try and restart.
[15:19] <higli> ActionPa1snip:  do you even know what is wpa supplicant?
[15:19] <IsmAvatar> hey guys, just did a fresh install of Ubuntu 13.04, but when I log in, it seems like the gnome session immediately locks up. Unity displays, but the top bar doesn't show any icons (like the Gear that I use to reboot/shutdown). Mouse still functions, but I can't click anything.
[15:20] <Yud_Zroc> Good day to everyone here, Does Ubuntu and Kubuntu (Unity/KDE) share the same app store?
[15:20] <rosenzweig> Okay, so that didn't do anything.
[15:20] <gear4> Yud_Zroc, yes
[15:21] <rosenzweig> I checked the log and it was complaining about fglrx. Is there anyway to quickly install the free driver and get it working? No BS in between?
[15:21] <shadow98> hey guys i am trying to come up with a remote desktop solutions that is fast.  I am coming from 10.04 which as worked fine forever when i vnc in from my windows box...however switching to 13.04 has made thing almost unusable i turne off some of the desktop feature with compwiz...however it is still slow.....I have tried lowest settings on ultra vnc and I have also installed teamviewer all our to slow..
[15:21] <Yud_Zroc> thankyou gear4
[15:21] <rosenzweig> Right now I'm using some vga driver that is horrible, so I need to get the free driver working.
[15:21] <gear4> no problem Yud_Zroc
[15:21] <rosenzweig> Maybe that'll fix it.
[15:21] <shadow98> any suggestions for keeping the new interface and being able to use remote vnc
[15:21] <higli> somone help me my wifi wont connect ask for pasword again and again i think it hes somthing to do whit wpa supplicant
[15:23] <yeats> higli: what model wifi card?
[15:23] <gear4> shadow98, tried using VNC server ?
[15:23] <gear4> enable with this: gsettings set org.gnome.Vino enabled true
[15:23] <th0r> shadow98, I think NX is faster than vnc
[15:23] <gear4> it works perfectly for me though
[15:23] <higli> yeats:  ralink 3070 but it uses rt2800sta and it works on zorin but it dosent on ubuntu and kubuntu refuses to connect ask for password
[15:25] <llutz> !info linux-image-generic quantal > llutz
[15:25] <compdoc> shadow98, Ive recently switched to x11rdp, but desktop options are limied with 13.04. It has to use gnome-seesion-fallback, which is nothing like Unity.
[15:25] <higli> so?
[15:25] <^Mike> I have a VPN connection set up in NetworkManager, but the MTU is being set incorrectly. I want to add the correct MTU in the config file, but putting "Interface MTU=x" into /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/VPN_connection causes vpnc to die with "Config option 'Interface MTU' invalid or unknown"
[15:26] <higli> ^Mike:  did you try to turn off first VPN then set MTU then turn on VPN
[15:27] <^Mike> higli: I don't need to change the MTU for eth0, I need to change it for tun0 only. I can do that manually of course, but I should be able to configure that in the tunnel config, no?
[15:28] <higli> ^Mike:  soory i dont know, do you meybe know how to set up wpa supplicant
[15:28] <^Mike> higli: Why would I need to do that?
[15:29] <^Mike> The issue is NetworkManager's config having no way I can find to set MTU
[15:29] <higli> ^Mike:  you dont i need thet
[15:32] <maui> this livestream does not play in ubuntu mozila
[15:32] <maui> http://www.hse24.de/Thema/Tvwelt/Startseite.html
[15:32] <maui> i cant even see a 'play' button as i can in windows
[15:32] <Walther_> Trying to install Ubuntu 13.04 alongside Windows 8 on a non-UEFI (BIOS) computer - installer claims the disk is empty / has no partition table, and firing up gparted results in the weird "GPT but no fake msdos" error.
[15:33] <iceroot_> maui: working here on ubuntu 13.04 with firefox
[15:33] <th0r> ^Mike, I found MTU in network mangler
[15:33] <maui> hmm
[15:33] <maui> is there a patch of plugins i should download?
[15:33] <iceroot_> maui: just install flash
[15:33] <iceroot_> maui: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[15:34] <^Mike> th0r: For VPN connections?
[15:34] <fractaline> trying to update software through muon in kde but i get this error:  This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided
[15:34] <shadow98> compdoc: i can't see how something like this can be released with such issues with remote viewing....even windows is better than this..
[15:35] <fractaline> but i'm not getting the option??
[15:35] <th0r> ^Mike, Configure VPN, highlight the VPN connection and choose Edit, click on the VPN tab, click on Advanced
[15:36] <Walther> Trying to install Ubuntu 13.04 alongside Windows 8 on a non-UEFI (BIOS) computer - installer claims the disk is empty / has no partition table, and firing up gparted results in the weird "GPT but no fake msdos" error.
[15:36] <maui> thanks, it worked
[15:36] <compdoc> shadow98, yeah, seems to be related to doig away with Unity 2D. There is mention of a completely differrent desktop envirtonment coming to Ubuntu named 'Mir'. Maybe that will help...
[15:37] <jilebedev> What is the recommended method of ensuring that a network file system is mounted correctly? I want to write a little admin script to check whether a network file share is mounted, but I think I'm reinventing the wheel. Any pointers? Shares are FUSE,Samba, and NFS.
[15:37] <iceroot_> compdoc: mir is not a desktop environment
[15:37] <shadow98> compdoc: i hope so cause this is way to slow to get anything done....teamviewer works but it locks up after week of use
[15:37] <iceroot_> compdoc: mir is a replacment for the x-server
[15:37] <^Mike> th0r: okay... I don't see MTU: http://i.imgur.com/nXjqchg.png
[15:38] <llutz> Mir will be fun for kubuntu-users...
[15:39] <compdoc> shadow98, well, if you dont mind a more gnome like desktop for 13.04, google x11rdp. theres a script on scarygliders that will install it for you. RDP works a bit better than VNC, I think
[15:40] <th0r> ^Mike, must be a special church of ubuntu feature...here is what I get in xubuntu....http://imgur.com/uoUBhxz
[15:40] <ActionPa1snip> compdoc: I thought Mir replaced Xorg?
[15:40] <iceroot_> ActionPa1snip: yes
[15:40] <rosenzweig> So I installed the free driver and good news, the fonts don't look bad anymore.
[15:40] <rosenzweig> Bad news, I still can't log into my main account.
[15:41] <rosenzweig> I type in the password, it flashes me a black screen with some writing on it, and it presents me with that lovely login screen again.
[15:41] <rosenzweig> Time to look at the xorg file... again. Would anyone mind perusing it for me if I uploaded it on a text site?
[15:41] <X-warrior> hello, I got an ssd/caddy so I moved the hdd to caddy and put my ssd on hdd place. But for now I still want to be able to boot from caddy hdd. But my bios doesn't have an option to choose which hd to boot from, it has cd/rom, usb, hd... if I choose cd/rom it doesn't boot at all, and choosing hd, it tries to boot from ssd (but it doesn`t have anything on it). Any ideas how to proceed? hdd has ubuntu and windows
[15:41] <th0r> ^Mike, I am running xubuntu 12.04 and nm-applet
[15:42] <baco> irc://irc.openjoke.org/enjoy
[15:42] <th0r> ^Mike, that is an openvpn entry...maybe that makes a difference
[15:43] <ActionPa1snip> rosenzweig: can you log in as another user?
[15:43] <rosenzweig> I can go into my guest account.
[15:43] <rosenzweig> Which I am in now.
[15:43] <rosenzweig> And I can log into it into the terminal.
[15:43] <th0r> ^Mike, yup....my pptp vpn entries don't have all those options
[15:43] <Wolkec> hello
[15:43] <Wolkec> can someone help me
[15:43] <rosenzweig> The only problem is that I cannot log into my admin account via the graphic display.
[15:43] <^Mike> th0r: Yes, well, this is a pptp VPN connection, so... :)
[15:43] <SonikkuAmerica> !anyone | Wolkec
[15:43] <rosenzweig> So it's not a driver issue, there's nothing wrong with the admina ccount itself.
[15:43] <rosenzweig> There's something wrong with me logging into that account via unity.
[15:44] <th0r> ^Mike, yeah...in my pptp connections there is no mtu entry that I can see
[15:44] <^Mike> th0r: In any event, I don't even mind that it's not in the GUI, I'
[15:44] <ActionPa1snip> rosenzweig: can you log into a different session?
[15:44] <rosenzweig> I'm in the guest session.
[15:44] <th0r> Wolkec, let me get out my crystal ball and check on your problem
[15:44] <rosenzweig> I only have my admin account and the guest account.
[15:44] <^Mike> th0r: I'm happy to edit the config file -- except that networkmanager doesn't understand the configuration directive for setting MTU
[15:44] <rosenzweig> The guest account having no password.
[15:44] <ActionPa1snip> rosenzweig: no, as your first user?
[15:44] <laurent__> *
[15:44] <Wolkec> ok, i've recently updated to 13.04; And when i loged on i only saw my wallpaper, i've tryed downgrading kernel, reinstalling legacy ati drivers and now finally i've used bash and reset unity and got the sidebar thingie, but it's still not working propperly
[15:45] <ActionPa1snip> rosenzweig: like log in to xfce session etc
[15:45] <Wolkec> i can't switch screens anymore
[15:45] <rosenzweig> No.
[15:45] <Wolkec> and there's no animations
[15:45] <rosenzweig> That doesn't work.
[15:45] <Wolkec> what should i do
[15:45] <rosenzweig> I hope that help narrows down the problem.
[15:45] <rosenzweig> I tried gdm and lightgdm and they didn't work.
[15:45] <Wolkec> I'm not even sure if i've downgraded the kernels propperly i just followed a guide on the net
[15:45] <compdoc> iceroot_, ActionPa1snip, well I didnt mean it was a desktop replacement. I was just hoping it might help with these remote desktop issues like jilebedev and I are having
[15:46] <Wolkec> I have ati 4890 so i think i need legacy drivers, but aren't sure
[15:47] <th0r> ^Mike, I have very liimited experience with vpn, but wonder if you just dropped the 'interface' from the line you mentioned if it would work
[15:47] <rosenzweig> ActionPa1snip, so in short I can't log into my admin account in any graphic session (but I can log into it via terminal).
[15:47] <ActionPa1snip> rosenzweig: if you log into XFCE, is it ok. If you don't have XFCE installed you can drop to TTY1 and run:  sudo apt-get install xfce4    then log in to the XFCE session in lightdm
[15:48] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionPa1snip: Would the trash-your-.Xauthority thing work with rosenzweig maybe?
[15:48] <rosenzweig> I tried that already, SonikkuAmerica.
[15:48] <Wolkec> th0r So... what did the crystal ball say
[15:48] <SonikkuAmerica> rosenzweig: No sale, hmm?
[15:48] <rosenzweig> No sale.
[15:48] <th0r> Wolkec, I don't use 13.04 or unity, so can't help
[15:48] <rosenzweig> I'll try xfce.
[15:48] <rosenzweig> but I don't think it'll work.
[15:49] <rosenzweig> I'll be right back.
[15:51] <rosenzweig> Yeah, using the xfce session manager didn't work.
[15:51] <rosenzweig> Can't login my account there either.
[15:52] <rosenzweig> I'll try the xauthority thing again I suppose.
[15:52] <rosenzweig> Do I have to be logged out of the guest account for that to work?
[15:53] <blz> Hello,  I've just installed fish, but chsh -s /usr/bin/fish doesn't seem to have any effect
[15:53] <blz> what gives?
[15:54] <Wolkec> How can i get my kernel version someone please tell me
[15:54] <th0r> Wolkec, uname -a?
[15:54] <llutz> blz: is fish a valid login-shell? check /etc/shells
[15:54] <blz> llutz, I did.  It's in there
[15:54] <blz> llutz, but good thought!
[15:54] <blz> llutz, does chsh require a logout/in?
[15:55] <llutz> blz: sure
[15:55] <blz> llutz, that might explain everything ^ ^
[15:55] <llutz> blz: it changes your login-shell, so you have to re-login
[15:55] <Wolkec> Can someone tell me what kind of drivers i need if i have an ati 4xxx series
[15:55] <Wolkec> legacy or proprietary
[15:55] <rosenzweig> Yeah, xauthority isn't even a file.
[15:55] <blz> llutz, thanks =)
[15:55] <rosenzweig> It's just empty.
[15:55] <ActionPa1snip> Wolkec: which release?
[15:55] <Wolkec> i'm on 13.04
[15:55] <ActionPa1snip> rosenzweig: it's ~/.Xauthority
[15:55] <llutz> blz: getent passwd $USER   should show it as shell
[15:55] <ActionPa1snip> Wolkec: you will need the legacy PPA
[15:56] <adamk> Wolkec: I'd suggest just using the open source drivers.
[15:56] <blz> llutz, yep!  It even knows my name!
[15:56] <Wolkec> open source drivers?
[15:56] <ActionPa1snip> Wolkec: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[15:56] <rosenzweig> I know. It's still not a file... ~/.Xauthority
[15:56] <ActionPa1snip> Wolkec: no, proprietary but there is a known issue with 2xx 3xxx and 4xxx ATi GPUs
[15:56] <urgodfather> hello room, I'm having trouble connecting on an intel 6235 while live booting
[15:57] <Wolkec> ok, so i should follow the steps from that site?
[15:57] <rosenzweig> So what else is there to do, ActionPa1snip. Have any clues?
[15:57] <urgodfather> the laptop also has 12.10 installed but it doesnt even show my network in it
[15:57] <ActionPa1snip> rosenzweig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5674429
[15:57] <Wolkec> If that the case please consider resetting Unity configuration to default or use other DE. How can i do that
[15:58] <rosenzweig> What should I do with that, ActionPa1snip?
[15:58] <ActionPa1snip> Wolkec: could install xfce4 package and be ok
[15:58] <rosenzweig> Use it as my Xauthority file?
[15:58] <ActionPa1snip> rosenzweig: just showing it is a file
[15:58] <Walther> What is the current "correct" way to install ATI drivers on Ubuntu 13.04?
[15:58] <rosenzweig> I know but I removed it, and it never made a new one.
[15:58] <Walther> Jockey seems to be depreceated?
[15:58] <SonikkuAmerica> !fglrx | Walther, try this
[15:58] <rosenzweig> It's not a file on my system... since I deleted it.
[15:58] <rosenzweig> I was expecting a new one to be generated.
[15:58] <urgodfather> does anyone know how to troubleshoot this problem?
[15:58] <Wolkec> xfce4? Will it work as fast as legacy?
[15:59] <Walther> SonikkuAmerica: Last updated 2012, not sure if I want to trust that
[15:59] <ActionPa1snip> rosenzweig: try:   mkxauth -u $USER -c `hostname`    as your first user, run it as I gave it
[15:59] <chiluk> urgodfather, is there a chance it's listed under more networks?
[15:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Walther: There are mixed results with prop drivers; ...
[15:59] <rosenzweig> Okay, I'l try that.
[15:59] <Wolkec> So should i got for xfce4 or should i go for legacy drivers? How can i reset my unity settings as those seems to be bugged
[16:00] <urgodfather> chiluk: it is not
[16:00] <Walther> SonikkuAmerica: I know there are mixed results, mostly I'm just looking for the most current "correct" way to install - before, jockey / jockey-gtk was the way to go
[16:00] <chiluk> urgodfather, is there a chance you have mac address filtering enabled on your router?
[16:00] <chiluk> urgodfather, are other wireless networks visible?
[16:00] <krababbel> Hi, can I upgrade using apt-get upgrade, so that also recommended packages are installed? They are left out and --install-recommends won't work on upgrade it seems.
[16:00] <Wolkec> go for*
[16:01] <SonikkuAmerica> Walther: The fglrx is the only driver that doesn't show up there, but it's a side for software-properties now, Jockey is
[16:01] <rosenzweig> ActionPa1snip, it doesn't do anything. It just presents me with a new line with a ">"
[16:01] <rosenzweig> I'm not exactly sure what to do with it.
[16:02] <urgodfather> chiluk: filtering... no, other networks, yes... some (not all)
[16:02] <chiluk> and you are using a 6235 on 12.10..
[16:02] <ActionPa1snip> rosenzweig: then you miscopied the command
[16:02] <operator1> hello all who have come :)
[16:03] <chiluk> urgodfather, perhaps you might want to try the 13.04 image instead of the 12.10... 6235 is pretty recent... you might just need a newer driver.
[16:03] <rosenzweig> Oh yeah, I did. Silly me.
[16:03] <rosenzweig> mkxauth not found.
[16:03] <chiluk> urgodfather, there have been a number of recent updates to that driver between 12.10 and 13.04.
[16:03] <chiluk> urgodfather, if it helps I'm runnign 13.04 happily right now.
[16:04] <urgodfather> chiluk: im running 13.04 liveboot right now. it see's the network, but isnt connecting
[16:04] <Wolkec> ActionPa1snip Where can i find the xfce4 package? And can you please tell me how to reset unity / unity settings
[16:04] <chiluk> urgodfather, that's really odd.. check var/log/syslog and var/log/kern.log for any wireless related error messages.
[16:05] <chiluk> also from a terminal try iwlist to see if you can see the wireless network from there.
[16:05] <irv> can't seem to select any resolution higher than 1024x768 when plugged into my projector... in windows i can run it at native res which is like 1366x768
[16:05] <irv> any ideas?
[16:05] <chiluk> urgodfather, sorry  you see it but aren't connecting.. that's really odd...
[16:06] <rosenzweig> Yeah, I tried typing it in again to see if I mistyped it. ActionPa1snip, mkxauth isn't a package or command that I have. What should I do? I tried installing it, but obviously it wasn't found in the repository.
[16:06] <chiluk> urgodfather, don't be insulted, but re-check your key, and make sure your router isn't rejecting the connection.
[16:06] <infexion> irv: video drivers?
[16:06] <johnsmith> I was having audio issues, but I guess it's fixed now. The sound icon isn't in the top right corner like it's suppose to, though.  How do I get it back?
[16:06] <chiluk> urgodfather, also maybe reboot your router..
[16:07] <urgodfather> i have the same chip in a different laptop. when i first installed it, it took a few tries but finally it started working... this laptop im getting no luck
[16:07] <irv> infexion: how can i go about installing those for my onboard
[16:07] <urgodfather> chiluk: not router (i work at a pc shop)
[16:07] <chiluk> urgodfather, it might be a bad wireless card... did you see anything in the logs..
[16:07] <chiluk> urgodfather, it has been known to happen.
[16:08] <urgodfather> chiluk: its new.. how to check logs?
[16:08] <chiluk> vi /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/syslog
[16:08] <urgodfather> chiluk: it also works fine in winbloes
[16:08] <chiluk> and look for anything related to wifi... or intel.. or wi0
[16:08] <Matt____> This might be a bit of a stretch, but has anyone gotten Ubuntu to work on a HP Envy 4 Sleekbook?
[16:08] <chiluk> urgodfather, ok that's a good checkpoint..
[16:09] <Anom01y> Hi, is there any utils or tools that will clear up my memory, I remember in windows there was a tool call memfix or something that refreshed my ram,
[16:09] <Anom01y> I am asking because I think my video driver ram is getting filled up or leaked (by adobe flash),
[16:09] <chiluk>  Matt____  probably... canonical has a support agreement with HP...and a number of employees use them.
[16:09] <Anom01y> after leaving my computer on for a week the video gets slow
[16:09] <Anom01y> (screensavers, openGL stuff ect)
[16:10] <Matt____> chiluk Ah, sterling. I'm currently having some woes actually installing Ubuntu on my machine.
[16:10] <chiluk> Anom01y, check /var/log/Xorg*.log for EE
[16:10] <operator1> ok. I m here to spend time, observe and learn. I am dev from #puppylinux . I want to get invloved in dev here but I believe them to be very different system and archs. So I am here to be here... I am here to help if you want it otherwise only to observe and to pay attention... Who handles newbs???
[16:10] <chiluk> Matt____, I in particular have an asus
[16:10] <Matt____> The installer is rather prone to crashing. Oh, and I can't write to the HDD. Even with Secure Boot and the like turned off.
[16:11] <chiluk> Matt____, what install disk are you using?
[16:11] <urgodfather> chiluk: couldnt get log to print any info
[16:11] <Anom01y> chiluk,
[16:11] <johnsmith> The sound icon isn't showing in the top panel, how do I get it back?
[16:11] <ActionPa1snip> operator1: everyone, we are all users
[16:11] <Anom01y> I will get back to you just on the phone now
[16:11] <chiluk> Matt____, It sounds like a newer laptop make sure you are using at least 13.04
[16:11] <irv> infexion: it's the intel driver, and apparently those are installed by default
[16:12] <irv> i think it's just incorrectly detecting the display, says unknown display
[16:12] <chiluk> urgodfather, run sudo vi /var/log/kern.log        and sudo vi /var/log/syslog
[16:12] <operator1> ActionPa1snip, very well. thank you for the warm welcome. I hope to learn much in this experience
[16:12] <operator1> :)
[16:12] <Matt____> I am indeed.
[16:12] <irv> any ideas how to force the resolution?
[16:12] <chiluk> Anom01y, I'm not paid support... don't get back to me.
[16:12] <Matt____> Using 13:04. Model is 4-1101sa
[16:12] <operator1> xorgwizard won't do it?
[16:14] <chiluk> alright have to get back to my day job... sorry guys... hopefully i helped a little.
[16:14] <johnsmith> The sound icon isn't showing in the top panel, any way I can get it back?
[16:14] <voiddd> I'm experiencing "Dummy Output" problem in ubuntu 13.04. Please help
[16:15] <chiluk> voiddd phrase your question like this... when I do ..... I see .....
[16:15] <voiddd> johnsmith: have you installed indicator-sound ?`
[16:15] <urgodfather> chiluk: i ended up rebooting the live boot
[16:16] <voiddd> When I switch on the system, and play audio, there's no sound. When I check the sound settings, it shows "Dummy Ouput" in the place for Output
[16:17] <johnsmith> voidd, have you reinstalled alsa-base and pulseaudio?
[16:18] <johnsmith> voiddd, have you reinstalled alsa-base and pulseaudio?
[16:18] <urgodfather> chiluk: should i be looking for something in particular
[16:18] <voiddd> johnsmith: yes, I have tried it
[16:19] <irv> any ideas how to force ubuntu to use a resolution that's not being detected by xrandr or the 'displays' control
[16:19] <irv> intel onboard
[16:19] <irv> and a viewsonic projector
[16:19] <hedin> Hi, I have installed 12.04 desktop and most stuff is working, but I can't get alt+f1 to work, the unity/ubuntu icon just turns brighter
[16:19] <Selutha> I have installed virtual machine manager, I want to manage a kvm host from my desktop, The problem comes to when i try to add the remote host, googled this and it keeps telling me to go to 'file' at the top of the windows. The problem is there is no 'file' there.  ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[16:19] <chiluk> urgodfather, hit G to go to the bottom and work your way up
[16:20] <ActionPa1snip> irv: there is a way to add resolutions to xrandr, or you can use an xorg.conf file
[16:20] <chiluk> urgodfather,  but yeah... just have to read... to see if there are any errors related to wireless
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> hedin  same here, in raring, the colour changes with alt-f1
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> hedin  what is alt-f1 supposed to do?
[16:20] <johnsmith> voiddd, try sudo alsa force-reload. Then restart your computer.
[16:21] <voiddd>  johnsmith The audio works when I use force-reload, but when I restart the system, it goes back to the way it was
[16:21] <urgodfather> chiluk: would it say error?
[16:21] <hedin> MonkeyDust: I would expect it to give me a search installed programs functionality
[16:21] <chiluk> urgodfather, it might.... it might not.
[16:21] <hedin> as I get in gnome
[16:22] <arooni-mobile> help i upgraded to ubuntu 13.04 and virutalbox doesnt work anymore.  any ideas?
[16:23] <hedin> isn't that what it's supposed to do?
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> hedin  try the super/windows key
[16:23] <chiluk> urgodfather, if you don't see anything obvious you might want to unstall using a usb-ethernet adapter and then upgrade the kernel...
[16:23] <hedin> MonkeyDust: doen't work
[16:24] <chiluk> you might just have way too new revision of the card.
[16:24] <hedin> I'm currently using the radeon driver
[16:24] <chiluk> urgodfather, s/unstall/install
[16:26] <Selutha> never mind found it, not use to unity
[16:27] <johnsmith> voiddd, sorry I can't find anything. I was having the same problem too the other day and I fixed it by reinstalling.  If you want, you can follow the instructions from this forum. ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=878794
[16:28] <voiddd> johnsmith: thanks, i'll check it out. I have searched on askubuntu and ubuntuforums a lot too.
[16:28] <hedin> hmm... How do I set a shortcut to "dash home" on 12.04?
[16:29] <johnsmith> hedin go to settings, then keyboard, and then shortcuts.
[16:29] <ActionPa1snip> arooni-mobile: can you expand on 'doesnt work'
[16:29] <hedin> johnsmith: thanks :)
[16:30] <chiluk> urgodfather what does "lspci | grep Centrin" give you for rev number
[16:30] <chiluk> urgodfather, mine is rev 24
[16:30] <ActionPa1snip> chiluk: if you add the -i to grep you don't have to capitalize :)
[16:30] <brian_petersen> I created a upstart file (/etc/init/nodeup.conf) and this is its contents: http://pastie.org/7921198. How would I make the forever process start under a specific user? (e.g. deploy)
[16:31] <urgodfather> chiluk: same
[16:31] <chiluk> ActionPa1snip, i know.
[16:31] <Cyberspaceloa> voiddd are you using hdmi audio?
[16:31] <voiddd> Cyberspaceloa: I'm using Intel HDA
[16:31] <chiluk> urgodfather, man... I'm not sure.. if I were you I'd go and upgrade firmware drivers..
[16:32] <chiluk> urgodfather, and if that doesn't work I'd try an install then upgrade the kernel
[16:32] <hedin> johnsmith: I can't find any option for the Dash...
[16:32] <chiluk> if you are seeing your access point, but not able to connect that is really odd... there were issues with that a while back
[16:32] <roadfish> I have 12.04 on one partition and 13.04 on another partition. Can I some how "start up" 13.04 while actually being booted into 12.04? For instance, could I do apt-get operations for the 13.04 install but actually be running 12.04? Or run an app installed on 13.04 while actually booted into 12.04.
[16:32] <Cyberspaceloa> voiddd, maybe you've seen this already, but here's a thread concerning a kernel update breaking hdmi audio in 13.04 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2136303
[16:32] <urgodfather> chiluk: how to upgrade firmware drivers?
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> roadfish  no, as the other is not running
[16:33] <olivier_bK> hi
[16:33] <chiluk> urgodfather, but assuming you downloaded from here http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=desktop&bits=64&release=latest
[16:33] <urgodfather> chiluk: on the 12.10, i have already sudo apt-get update && upgrade
[16:33] <voiddd> Cyberspaceloa: yes. I've seen this before, and I tried downgrading the kernel to 3.8.0-13 but that didn't help either
[16:33] <roadfish> MonkeyDust: ok, so tools like virtualbox can't be used to achieve this aim?
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> roadfish  no
[16:33] <chiluk> urgodfather, wo .. you told me you were on 13.04 which is it?
[16:34] <urgodfather> i'm livebooting right now to test this card. the system has 12.10 installed.
[16:34] <Cyberspaceloa> voiddd there's also the suggestion of using mainline kernel, but I couldn't personally help you with that
[16:35] <urgodfather> chiluk: i'm livebooting right now to test this card. the system has 12.10 installed.
[16:35] <chiluk> urgodfather, 12.10 works?
[16:35] <voiddd> Cyberspaceloa:  I will take a look on that. brb
[16:36] <urgodfather> chiluk: in the 12.10 install, some of the networks arent found... in 13.04 they are but cannot connect to mine
[16:36] <Cyberspaceloa> voiddd, as always I recommend complete backups before trying anything crazy. Sorry I couldn't be a better help
[16:37] <blz> how would i go about adding ~/.local/bin to my PATH?
[16:37] <chiluk> urgodfather... well if you can risk blowing away the machine... I'd fully install the machine with 13.04 and then upgrade from there...
[16:37] <voiddd> Cyberspaceloa: I have tried the 3.9 kernel also, from the mainline build. But no luck still
[16:37] <chiluk> urgodfather, or you can dist-upgrade from within 12.10
[16:37] <urgodfather> how to dist upgrade?
[16:37] <urgodfather> that would be easier
[16:38] <chiluk> urgodfather, open update-manager and click "install new version of ubuntu" or something like that.
[16:40] <voiddd> Cyberspaceloa: Thanks for the help btw.
[16:40] <SonikkuAmerica> chiluk: I wouldn't recommend that... the GUI keeps crashing. [ do-release-upgrade ] is better for a stable upgrade process.
[16:41] <Cyberspaceloa> vioddd, no problem. I just have zero personal experience with hdmi audio. I'm still in the analog world
[16:41] <chiluk> SonikkuAmerica, I wouldn't know... I tend to be on development releases and do fresh installs between releases.
[16:42] <voiddd> Cyberspaceloa: no problem. Do you think I could run a script that does alsa force-reload on system boot up?
[16:42] <urgodfather> chiluk: oh yeah lol
[16:42] <chiluk> urgodfather, check SonikkuAmerica's earlier comment
[16:42] <Walther> Ubuntu 13.04, fglrx-updates installed, two monitors - and I'm getting "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3600, 1080), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)" when trying to set up my dual-head
[16:42] <urgodfather> chiluk: oh yeah lol
[16:42] <Cyberspaceloa> voiddd I was just about to recommend that
[16:43] <Cyberspaceloa> voiddd does that command require sudo privs to fix the sound?
[16:43] <urgodfather> chiluk: i dont see it
[16:44] <cimi1985> hello, i'm installing ubuntu 10.04 in an old 2001 compaq presario...i'm a little worried because the installation is taking a long time....the pc has a 1.2 GHz processor and 512 MB RAM...is this normal?
[16:44] <voiddd> Cyberspaceloa: I have to try that then. Can you help me with another problem I'm experiencing? Ever since I've installed Ubuntu 13.04, it says Bluetooth adapter not found
[16:44] <adamk> Walther: You need to an xorg.conf file to specify a Virtual size.
[16:44] <chiluk> urgodfather, he recommended running do-release-upgrade from a terminal instead
[16:44] <voiddd> Cyberspaceloa: yes. it needs sudo
[16:44] <Walther> adamk: Usually that hasn't been necessary :/
[16:45] <Walther> Usually just using the system settings has been enough
[16:45] <Walther> for the past a couple years
[16:45] <adamk> Walther: Well it is necessary when using dualhead with fglrx.
[16:46] <urgodfather> chiluk & SonikkuAmerica: do i sudo apt-get upgrade do-release-upgrade?
[16:46] <chiluk> urgodfather, no just sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:46] <urgodfather> chiluk: ok thanks
[16:46] <cimi1985> any ideas?
[16:46] <Cyberspaceloa> voiddd is your bluetooth adapter integrated or usb?
[16:47] <chiluk> urgodfather, you can always check if a command exists by starting to type it and then hitting tab to auto-complete.
[16:47] <adamk> Walther: Alternatively, you can create a file under /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ with the necessary Screen section and Virtual size
[16:47] <voiddd> Cyberspaceloa: it is integrated ...  Broadcom Corp. BCM2046B1 USB 2.0 Hub (part of BCM2046 Bluetooth)
[16:47] <urgodfather> chiluk: waiting for 12.10 to boot
[16:49] <chiluk> urgodfather, hopefully it will just work, as for me I need to get back to what I get paid to do.
[16:49] <chiluk> urgodfather, good luck man.
[16:49] <urgodfather> chiluk: im gonna run the upgrade, will message you when i finish
[16:51] <Cyberspaceloa> voiddd, again I have little experience with bluetooth
[16:51] <Alemimio> Hey guys, I've got a little problem, If i'm running the following code 'nohup /home/radio/shoutcast/sc_serv /home/radio/shoutcast/sc_serv_basic.conf > /dev/null & echo $!' from the shell as root, it works, it returns the PID and i can see the proccess running, but when i run it from php's shell_exec command, i do get the PID, but when i check, the proccess isn't really running. it worked on a different server, but now it doesn't, a
[16:51] <Alemimio> ny idea what my cause this?
[16:51] <Cyberspaceloa> voiddd: but I was able to find this question that has your exact card (and sound) issues as well
[16:52] <Cyberspaceloa> voiddd: http://askubuntu.com/questions/296703/ubuntu-13-04-audio-and-bluetooth-issue
[16:52] <voiddd> Cyberspaceloa: no problem. thanks for your help. I'll go check on running that script at boot
[16:52] <Wolkec> hi
[16:52] <Scunizi> I just received an iPad .MOV from a friend.  What do I use to transcode that to something else that is recognized by G+ for posting?
[16:53] <voiddd> Cyberspaceloa: that post was made by me :)
[16:53] <Wolkec> I've installed ati legacy drivers from the site i got here, but i still can't switch to different desktops
[16:53] <Cyberspaceloa> voiddd: lol. I was wondering if that might have been you
[16:53] <Wolkec> How can i reset my unity/reinstall
[16:53] <Wolkec> If that the case please consider resetting Unity configuration to default or use other DE.
[16:53] <Wolkec> i'd like to know how to do that
[16:54] <voiddd> lol yea. Thanks anyways Cyberspaceloa . Off I go to run that script
[16:54] <Cyberspaceloa> voiddd: alright. I'll be curious to know if you find any solutions!
[16:54] <kabads> On my second install here of 13.04 and I'm getting grub rescue prompts - where might I be going wrong (dual boot laptop)
[16:54] <urgodfather> chiluk: says no new release found
[16:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Scunizi: Google+ doesn't recognize QuickTime?
[16:55] <chiluk> sudo urgodfather sudo cat /etc/issue what does it say?
[16:55] <kabads> and what is /dev/mmcblk0 ?
[16:55] <kabads> should I unmount /dev/mmcblk0 during the install?
[16:56] <urgodfather> chiluk: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[16:56] <chiluk> then urgodfather you aren't running 12.10 or 13.04 at all.
[16:56] <Wolkec> IS THERE anyone who can help me at all :<
[16:57] <chiluk> urgodfather, what does uname -a say
[16:57] <Scunizi> SonikkuAmerica: actually it did upload and work.. I was uploading a batch of jpg's and one .mov and G+ complained on one of the files that it wasn't a video or pic.  I've since identified it. It's a jpg that might be malformed.
[16:57] <urgodfather> chiluk: yeah, youre right, thats my mistake
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> !patience | Wolkec
[16:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Wolkec: [ sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity* ]
[16:57] <chiluk> urgodfather,  now worries...
[16:58] <chiluk> urgodfather, sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-raring     That will install the raring kernel, which should get your card squared away.
[16:58] <Wolkec>  libcunit1-ncurses-dev : Conflicts: libcunit1-dev but 2.1-0.dfsg-10ubuntu1 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[16:58] <Wolkec> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libcunit1-ncurses : Conflicts: libcunit1 but 2.1-0.dfsg-10ubuntu1 is to be installed  libcunit1-ncurses-dev : Conflicts: libcunit1-dev but 2.1-0.dfsg-10ubuntu1 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> Wolkec  try sudo apt-get -f install
[16:58] <chiluk> urgodfather, you might want to read http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-12-04-to-ubuntu-12-10
[16:59] <Wolkec> same result :<
[16:59] <chiluk> urgodfather, it's for 12.10, but you should be able to extrapolate it for 13.04 and forward
[16:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Scunizi: Oh.
[16:59] <urgodfather> chiluk: installing
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> Wolkec  try dpkg --reconfigure
[16:59] <chiluk> also urgodfather after you install the raring backport kernel you will need to reboot.
[16:59] <Wolkec> root@Wolk:~# dpkg --reconfigure dpkg: error: unknown option --reconfigure
[17:00] <chiluk> urgodfather, if you have issues with that kernel, just select previous versions from the grub menu and select the older kernel.
[17:00] <urgodfather> chiluk: if that doesnt work, then just sudo do-release-upgrade -d?
[17:00] <chiluk> urgodfather, I wouldn't recommend that for you..
[17:00] <chiluk> urgodfather, read that page I sent you.
[17:01] <TiagoTT> try: dpkg-reconfigure
[17:01] <chiluk> urgodfather, saucy is latest development and not for you...
[17:01] <eoo> anyone here to help me
[17:01] <eoo> with mono
[17:01] <Wolkec>  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: please specify a package to reconfigure
[17:02] <urgodfather> chiluk: saucy is... 13.10?
[17:02] <TiagoTT> you have to pass the package name you want to reconfigure as first argument
[17:02] <chiluk> urgodfather, yep.
[17:02] <BluesKaj> Wolkec,  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:02] <chiluk> urgodfather, good luck... I'm going to get food now.
[17:02] <eoo> can someone help me with mono
[17:02] <Wolkec> ok nothing happens
[17:02] <Wolkec> get same error as before
[17:03] <Wolkec> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libcunit1-ncurses : Conflicts: libcunit1 but 2.1-0.dfsg-10ubuntu1 is to be installed  libcunit1-ncurses-dev : Conflicts: libcunit1-dev but 2.1-0.dfsg-10ubuntu1 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[17:03] <urgodfather> chiluk: less networks visible lol
[17:03] <chiluk> eoo asking for help will get you nowhere... asking your question might get you somewhere.
[17:03] <urgodfather> chiluk: im gonna upgrade to 12.10
[17:03] <eoo> lol
[17:03] <chiluk> urgodfather, you should upgrade to 13.04
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> Wolkec  try booting in recovery mode and select Repair
[17:04] <chiluk> urgodfather, the 6235 is much better supported there.
[17:04] <eoo> when i run a certain windows app i get the following message:
[17:04] <Wolkec> ok
[17:04] <eoo> wine: Install Mono 2.8 or greater for Windows to run .NET 4.0 applications.
[17:04] <urgodfather> chiluk: same method as going to 12.10?
[17:04] <eoo> ive installed mono from software-center
[17:04] <chiluk> urgodfather, yep..
[17:04] <chiluk> urgodfather, you're a smart man, you'll figure it out..
[17:04] <chiluk> urgodfather, google is your friend too.
[17:04] <cimi1985> hello, i'm installing ubuntu 10.04 in an old 2001 compaq presario...i'm a little worried because the installation is taking a long time....the pc has a 1.2 GHz processor and 512 MB RAM...is this normal?
[17:05] <gordonjcp> cimi1985: that could take quite a long time
[17:05] <g-maurizi> Hello #ubuntu, I could really use some help, I have been trying to get static nat working for 4 days now, my steps are ifconfig eth1:1 172.20.2.99 netmask 255.255.255.255 broadcast 172.20.2.255, and then iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -d 172.20.2.99 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.1.150.10, this just flat out doesn't seem to work.
[17:05] <gordonjcp> cimi1985: for that spec of machine you might want to look at Xubuntu
[17:05] <gordonjcp> cimi1985: or eBay, and get MOAR RAMS
[17:05] <chiluk> gordonjcp++
[17:05] <urgodfather> chiluk: looks like i gotta got to 12.10 first
[17:06] <chiluk> urgodfather, probably not a bad idea..
[17:06] <gordonjcp> g-maurizi: have you enabled forwarding?
[17:06] <eoo> Install Mono 2.8 or greater for Windows to run .NET 4.0 applications.
[17:06] <g-maurizi> gordonjcp forwarding is enabled in sysctl.conf yes
[17:07] <nitrox1> Good day everyone!
[17:07] <nitrox1> Does anyone by any chance know to how create a unity launcher for a file?
[17:08] <g-maurizi> if I ssh 172.20.2.99 I ssh into the box im sitting at, instead of the request getting pushed via NAT to 10.1.150.10...
[17:09] <Walther> What is the current way to purge / reset compiz's all configuration?
[17:09] <Walther> compiz --reset has been deprecated
[17:09] <mokau> how do you use cron.d with specific users?
[17:10] <SwedeMike> mokau: then you don't use cron.d, you use user-specific crontabs
[17:10] <bazhang> Walther, it was always compiz --replace
[17:10] <voiddd> Cyberspaceloa: added the "sudo alsa force-reload" in /etc/rc.local and sound works now. But boot up time hass increased, i think
[17:10] <Walther> bazhang: *reset configuration*, not replace as a window manager
[17:10] <mokau> SwedeMike: looks like there is a user parameter between the schedule and command
[17:10] <mokau> thanks anyway
[17:10] <Walther> Different things there.
[17:11] <voiddd> Cyberspaceloa: sorry, only "alsa force-reload"
[17:11] <llutz> mokau: just add the user name you want to run teh job as between times and command "0 * * * * username cmd"
[17:11] <Walther> It was a command something like gconf purge unitysomething, but i can't remember it and have no means of browsing the internet just not (i'm ssh+irccing from terminal here)
[17:11] <Walther> (and don't tell me to use elinks)
[17:11] <mokau> llutz: indeed, thanks
[17:11] <bazhang> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04   Walther
[17:12] <Wolkec> i'm back, how can i reset my unity now
[17:12] <Walther> bazhang: Could you please paste the commands to me? :)
[17:12] <Walther> I pretty much can't open links right now
[17:12] <Walther> Thanks a bunch!
[17:12] <Wolkec> What's the commands to reinstall/reset unity
[17:13] <bazhang> Install dconf-tools: Walther
[17:13] <cimi1985> gordonjcp, how much time? 3 hours?
[17:13] <Wolkec> MonkeyDust here?
[17:13] <bazhang> dconf reset -f /org/compiz/   Walther
[17:13] <g-maurizi> anyone? please? ;oX
[17:14] <gordonjcp> cimi1985: I'd be surprised if it was that long
[17:14] <gordonjcp> cimi1985: if the disk is still rattling away then it's probably okay ;-)
[17:14] <Cyberspaceloa> voiddd - good job. That sucks about the increased boot up time though
[17:15] <Wolkec> how can i reinstall unity?
[17:15] <Cyberspaceloa> voiddd - hopefully the problem will get addressed properly soon. I can't imagine you're the only one
[17:15] <voiddd> Cyberspaceloa:  Yes, I've seen multiple threads about the sound problem. Hopefully in the next few kernel updates
[17:16] <bazhang> Wolkec, why not reset
[17:16] <Wolkec> reset?
[17:16] <ampharos> I'm having some problems with Intel graphics - I'm getting errors like [   24.177823] i915 0000:00:02.0: VGA-1: EDID block 0 invalid. and I can't go beyond 1024x768
[17:16] <Wolkec> reset what?
[17:16] <eoo> any got this problem: Install Mono 2.8 or greater for Windows to run .NET 4.0 applications.
[17:16] <Wolkec> can u give me the command to reset unity?
[17:16] <bazhang> Wolkec, what do you hope to achieve by reinstalling unity
[17:17] <Wolkec> I've installed legacy drivers
[17:17] <bazhang> Wolkec, just a moment please
[17:17] <Wolkec> and now unity is fucked
[17:17] <Wolkec> i can't switch desktops
[17:17] <bazhang> no cursing here Wolkec
[17:17] <Wolkec> or well it's laggy
[17:17] <Wolkec> sorry
[17:17] <Walther> bazhang: thanks - but it is not working. "Child process exited with code 1"
[17:17] <FloodBot1> Wolkec: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:17] <bazhang> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04   Wolkec
[17:17] <Wolkec> tryed
[17:18] <Wolkec> it doesn't work
[17:18] <ampharos> i'm googling but I'm only really getting radeon results
[17:18] <bazhang> !work | Wolkec
[17:18] <adamk> Wolkec: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[17:18] <SJr> I have a laptop that during an ubuntu upgrade that went horribly wrong the partition table got horribly corrupted. testdisk has recovered at least one partition and fsck gives it a clean bill of health. SHould I copy all the files off the partition, and then wipe the drive and start from scratch or is the current partition structure probably fine?
[17:18] <adamk> Wolkec: Did unity work fine with the open source drivers that came with Ubuntu?
[17:19] <bazhang> SJr, why take chances
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> SJr, What can you afford to risk?
[17:19] <SJr> It's not my laptop :)
[17:19] <SJr> hmmmm so copy everything off it, and back on
[17:20] <cimi1985> gordonjcp, the screen says ubuntu whit the five dots changin from white to orange, the cd was expulsed, so there is no visible anomaly, except the time...
[17:20] <IsmAvatar> hey guys. I just did (another
[17:20] <IsmAvatar> oops
[17:21] <IsmAvatar> hey guys. I just did (another) fresh install of 13.04 and after the login screen, it just freezes except the mouse. I can see unity, but the gray bar at the top is empty, and I can't click anything.
[17:23] <bazz_> Hi! Did you know, is some solution for install skype to ubuntu 13.04 ?
[17:24] <bazhang> !info skype partner | bazz_
[17:24] <bazhang> bazz_, enable the partner repo, install from there
[17:25] <bazz_> bazhang, it says "skype : Depends: skype-bin but it is not installable"
[17:26] <bazhang> bazz_, after you enabled the partner repo, di d you sudo apt-get update
[17:26] <bazz_> yes
[17:26] <bazhang> bazz_, please paste.ubuntu.com your /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:29] <Pargerus> hello?
[17:29] <n-iCe> ?
[17:30] <Pargerus> so this is basically the real time ubuntu help centre? :)
[17:30] <bazz_> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5674702/
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> Pargerus  yes
[17:32] <bazhang> bazz_, and please paste.ubuntu.com the output of sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:32] <bazhang> bazz_, what does apt-cache search skype    show once that is done
[17:33] <Pargerus> whoa, i had a problem after upgrading my system to 13.04. I lost the internet connection and when I went to system settings-network, it said the system network services are not compatible with this version...but, it has somehow started to work again, so I guess i dont have any questions anymore :D
[17:35] <asah> I don't wanna stir the waters, but, what is a good distro to go to leaving Ubuntu?  I'm not happy with the direction of Ubuntu but like(ed) the distro itself LTS10 and earlier
[17:35] <asah> thinking about straight up debian, or mint, or arch
[17:35] <bazhang> !ot | asah
[17:35] <asah> oh I thought this was ubuntu-unregged and this was the offtopic equivalent
[17:36] <asah> looks like theres more channels than I thought
[17:36] <asah> thanks, going there
[17:36] <bazz_> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5674721/
[17:37] <bazhang> bazz_, the out put from sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade to a pastebin please
[17:38] <blz> I'm trying to change my default shell to fish.  `/usr/local/bin/fish` is in `/etc/shells` but when I run `chsh -s /usr/local/bin/fish`, I get "You may not change the shell for <user>".  What gives?
[17:38] <Ari-Yang> so if I happen to get a windows virus and I have W.I.N.E. installed, it really shouldn't do any damage, right?
[17:38] <Ari-Yang> because the C:/ drive is virtual etc.
[17:38] <bazhang> Ari-Yang, ask in #winehq
[17:38] <Ari-Yang> oh
[17:39] <llutz> blz: why is it in /usr/local/bin, haven't you isntalled it using apt-get?
[17:39] <blz> llutz, I compiled from source.  The version in the repository is old and no longer maintained
[17:41] <sungate_> hi, I'm trying to change ownership of a directory, can anyone help me out?
[17:42] <n-iCe> sungate_: hi
[17:42] <n-iCe> sungate_: chmod {options} filename
[17:42] <AndChat308009> Sungate_ use chown
[17:42] <n-iCe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[17:42] <sungate_> ok thank you
[17:42] <n-iCe> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-use-chmod-and-chown-command/
[17:44] <llutz> blz: works fine here on 13.04 with the deb from fishshell.com
[17:44] <blz> llutz, well I've managed to much a bunch of things up, actually...  I could really use some help
[17:45] <blz> For instance, I accidentally ran sudo chsh -s instead of chsh -s
[17:45] <blz> and this was for a previous build in .local/bin/fish, which is now nonexistant
[17:45] <blz> so now root can't launch a shell =/
[17:45] <blz> llutz, any idea how to unfsck that?
[17:45] <llutz> blz: sudo chsh -s /bin/bash
[17:46] <blz> llutz, I tried that, but i get a PAM error
[17:46] <blz> llutz, presumably because root can't run its shell (?)
[17:46] <llutz> blz: you cannot use sudo anymore at all?
[17:47] <blz> llutz, similarly, sudo su yields "cannot execute /home/<user>/.local/bin/fish"
[17:47] <blz> which makes sense since there's no such file or directory
[17:47] <llutz> blz: sudo -s
[17:47] <blz> llutz, no sudo works
[17:47] <blz> llutz, just sudo -s?
[17:47] <blz> nothing else?
[17:48] <llutz> blz: to get a non-login root shell
[17:48] <blz> llutz, sudo -s gives me " /usr/bin/fish:  command not found"  It should be /usr/local/bin
[17:48] <blz> hence *that* failure... like I said, I screwed a couple of thing sup =/
[17:48] <upomoc> hi what USB wifi works best?
[17:48] <blz> llutz, although sudo /bin/bash works...
[17:49] <llutz> blz: so if you have a root-shell, change your login shell to a valid one
[17:49] <diverdude> When will mysql 5.6 be available in the ubuntu repo? (precise pangolin)
[17:49] <diverdude> 12.04
[17:50] <blz> llutz, I just tried that.  I as root, I did `chsh -s /usr/local/bin/fish` but I still get "chsh:  PAM:  Authentication failure"
[17:50] <elisa87> How can I change these two lines which are for ALPHA ISA to X86 ISA in my Makefile? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5674754/
[17:50] <bazz_> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5674762/
[17:50] <frodo_jeb> hi, is it true that linux deamon are just a normale linux programme added to it a script that lanch it at boot time rc0 rc1 ... rc6
[17:50] <bazz_> after update && upgrade, skype still can't install
[17:50] <blz> llutz, is there a file in which the default shell for a user is stored?
[17:51] <blz> llutz, I think it might be easiest to manually change that
[17:51] <bazz_> blz, /etc/passwd
[17:51] <llutz> blz: vipw /etc/passwd
[17:51] <blz> llutz, why vipw instead of nano?
[17:51] <llutz> blz: "vipw -s "   to eit  /etc/passwd   sry
[17:52] <Codify> bn nhjmk,lyu
[17:52] <bazz_> just vipw is better, as i remember :) it changes also shadow ..
[17:53] <thomasd> ASTICSEARCH
[17:53] <bazz_> frodo_jeb, in general, daemon is a program, which running all time, so, yes it's a normal linux program, without gui
[17:53] <blz> llutz, moment of truth ^^
[17:54] <blz> llutz, lookin' good!  Thank you!
[17:54] <blz> and thanks, bazz_ !
[17:56] <blz> I can always count on #ubuntu to unscrew my screwups =)
[17:56] <llutz> blz: time to avoid the screwups
[17:56] <blz> llutz, yeah but I learn so much from them =/
[17:56] <blz> no joke!
[17:57] <llutz> blz: learning by typing in commands given here?
[17:57] <blz> llutz, Learning why things broke and why the fixes work
[17:58] <blz> llutz, and having backups helps ;-)
[17:58] <llutz> blz: time to learn the step between: how to find a fix yourself :)
[17:58] <blz> llutz, yeah that would be nice =)
[18:01] <IsmAvatar> Could anyone help me fix my fresh 13.04 install so I can get past the login screen without the whole desktop locking up >_>
[18:02] <sunshine__> I have a question about configuring TCP/IP, anyone care to help?
[18:02] <bazz_> sunshine__, what a question ?
[18:05] <Wolkec> Hello i'm back
[18:05] <utfans05> whats your question sunshine__
[18:05] <Wolkec> I've installed legacy drivers after updating ubuntu to 13.04 and now i don't see any unity
[18:06] <Wolkec> There's just background
[18:06] <IsmAvatar> That sounds like a boon, not a bane :-p
[18:10] <Wolkec_> Okay, i've reset unity settings
[18:10] <Wolkec_> and now it works
[18:10] <Wolkec_> but
[18:10] <Wolkec_> i can't switch to other windows?
[18:10] <tacomaster> Hello everyone :D
[18:10] <Walther> Running 13.04 with fglrx, dual-head. Lightdm shows up ~okay, but when logging in, no unity is present. Trying to unity --replace --debug results in "/usr/bin/compiz (core) - Fatal: No composite extension
[18:11] <Wolkec_> control + alt + left/right doesn't work
[18:11] <urgodfather> ok guys, im in trouble. I ran the upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10.. all went smoothly, rebooted, now i get a solid cursor after the ubuntu splash screen
[18:11] <Guest68334> Hello
[18:11] <schmoward> Quick question for whoever can help. I have a dell 1012 netbook with a n450 atom processor and 2gb of ram. It came with 32 bit windows xp. Should I install 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu?
[18:12] <Wolkec_> 64 bit is for over 4 gigs of ram afaik
[18:12] <llutz> schmoward: both will run, go with 64bit
[18:12] <elisa87> What are the equivalent names of these ALPHA libraries in X86 ISA?  "libgomp.so.1"  "ld-linux.so.2"  "libc-2.6.1.so" "libpthread-2.6.1.so"
[18:14] <urgodfather> chiluk: you still eating lunch?
[18:14] <bazz_> have someone skype, running on ubuntu 13.04 64 bit ?)
[18:14] <Wolkec_> i have skype
[18:14] <Wolkec_> and it works for me
[18:14] <chiluk> urgodfather, never got that far.
[18:14] <bazz_> how you were install it ?)
[18:14] <urgodfather> chiluk: that sucks
[18:14] <Wolkec_> i had it from 12.10
[18:14] <Wolkec_> just install normally?
[18:14] <Wolkec_> get it from web page
[18:15] <chiluk> urgodfather, how are you getting along?
[18:15] <urgodfather> chiluk: so, i ran the update... everything went smoothly. did the reboot, and it hangs after plymouth (splash screen)
[18:15] <Wolkec_> Can someone help me with my problem?
[18:15] <bazz_> Wolkec_, it doen't install nor from skype site, nor from apt-get
[18:15] <urgodfather> Wolkec_: ubbotu | anyone!
[18:15] <elisa87> Where is lpthread located?
[18:15] <Wolkec_> bazz_ http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/
[18:15] <urgodfather> Wolkec_: ubotu | anyone!
[18:16] <k1l_> !anyone | urgodfather Wolkec_
[18:16] <schmoward> llutz, what are the advantages of 64 over 32 bit? Any disadvantages?
[18:16] <chiluk> urgodfather, did you have any sort of special video drivers installed?  and after what upgrade did this happen.
[18:16] <Wolkec_> urgodfather When i press alt+shift + left/right it doesn't switch screens
[18:16] <urgodfather> k1l_: thanks for fixing my typo lol
[18:16] <Wolkec_> or control + alt
[18:16] <Wolkec_> or any combination
[18:16] <llutz> schmoward: no disadvantages, if hardware supports 64, use it. (my opinion)
[18:16] <AndChat308009> !poll
[18:16] <urgodfather> Wolkec_: its control and alt
[18:16] <Wolkec_> doesn't work :<
[18:17] <k1l_> Wolkec_: look into unity-tweak-tool if you have more than 1 screen enabled
[18:17] <urgodfather> chiluk: not that im aware of
[18:17] <Wolkec_> huh
[18:17] <Wolkec_> it worked fine in 12.10
[18:17] <Wolkec_> now i had to reset unity settings
[18:17] <Wolkec_> and it's not working
[18:17] <chiluk> urgodfather, do you know what graphics card or cards is in the machine.
[18:18] <IsmAvatar> schmoward: some older software only works on 32-bit. That's one of the only reasons you'd want to stick with 32-bit.
[18:18] <llutz> IsmAvatar: ubuntu has multiarch-support, no problem to run 32bit soft
[18:19] <IsmAvatar> I believe Flash had that problem for a little while, but I haven't heard of it anymore so I'd assume it's since been fixed.
[18:19] <robin_> i feel like gnome 3.8 is slower than unity
[18:19] <Wolkec_> Where can i see how much free space my disks have?
[18:19] <urgodfather> chiluk: i dont, but i can find out... i just did a failsafex with no luck and am doing the dpkg right now
[18:20] <bazz_> schmoward: my opinion - if you haven't plans to upgrade up to 4Gb - install 32 bit, else install 64bit.
[18:20] <IsmAvatar> Wolkec_: from dash, access the System Monitor
[18:20] <Wolkec_> thx
[18:20] <IsmAvatar> np
[18:20] <urgodfather> chiluk: how to boot into verbose (no splash)
[18:20] <robin_> is there a way to disable the password i've set i need to type in before linux actually starts or do i have to reinstall my pc?
[18:21] <dillu> robin, you don't have to reinstall
[18:21] <dimitri_b> Hello everybody, does anybody have experience with mojo installer files in (k)ubuntu?? As far as I understand, one should simply execute this installer file... but Kubuntu doesn't start it, also bash says "bash: ./setup.bin: No such file or directory" although the file is definitely there (of course the +x flag is set)
[18:21] <robin_> do you know how to disable it?
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> robin_, what is your goal here overall?
[18:22] <Psycho_pr> I have a question about the Windows installer: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-with-windows If today I have two distinct Windows XP installations (one in English and one in Russian) and when I boot up, I can choose between the English and Russian installation, will I be able, after installing the Ubutnu Windows Installer, to select between English/Russian and Linux?
[18:22] <dillu> using ubuntu 12.04?
[18:22] <IsmAvatar> robin_: start with going to Dash -> User Accounts
[18:22] <robin_> my goal is to get rid of my damn password without reinstalling my pc
[18:23] <dillu> okay
[18:23] <robin_> 14.04
[18:23] <robin_> 13.04 srry
[18:23] <dillu> in that case go to user accounts
[18:23] <dillu> and disable password on startup
[18:23] <wilee-nilee> robin_, That s not supported here.
[18:23] <robin_> no its not the ubuntu login pass
[18:23] <chiluk> urgodfather, when grub loads edit the kernel command line and remove the quiet option at the end of the kernel line
[18:24] <chiluk> urgodfather, you should also be able to hit tab or up down or something like that to get more verbose
[18:24] <robin_> it is the one i have to type before linux starts
[18:24] <dillu> before linux starts as in?
[18:24] <llutz> robin_: have you set a grub-password or a bios-password?
[18:24] <Wolkec_> YAY
[18:24] <robin_> after boot
[18:24] <chiluk> urgodfather you can also log in to using ctrl+alt+f1  to get access to the virtual terminals
[18:24] <Wolkec_> worked
[18:24] <Wolkec_> thanks
[18:24] <Wolkec_> cya
[18:25] <FloodBot1> Wolkec_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:25] <dillu> okay
[18:25] <robin_> between ubuntu login and bios
[18:25] <dillu> that is a grub password
[18:25] <robin_> ooh, didnt know that
[18:25] <robin_> made an mistake with installing ubuntu a time ago, and its starting to irritate me;)
[18:26] <robin_> thought it was the ubuntu login pass
[18:26] <Fazer2> hey, I upgraded packages with PPA, but now I want to downgrade to the official versions; I already removed PPA from software sources
[18:26] <urgodfather> chiluk: virtual terminal access via recovery mode?\
[18:26] <robin_> PPA purge doesnt work?
[18:27] <diverdude> i have been doing sudo apt-get remove mysql-server-5.5 several times and it keeps reappearing.  why cant i remove it?
[18:27] <robin_> Fazer2 does PPA purge not work?
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> Fazer2, there is a ppa for removing PPA's and downgrading
[18:27] <chiluk> urgodfather, naw... as long as the machine is booting you can usually access virtual terminals even if X isn't starting.
[18:27] <robin_> yes it is called PPA purge
[18:27] <elisa87> can I define X86_LIB in my Makefile like this? X86_LIB = /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgomp.so.1 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 /mnt/tmp/lib64/libc-2.6.1.so /mnt/tmp/lib64/libpthread-2.6.1.so
[18:28] <IsmAvatar> I did a fresh 13.04 install. When i log in, the desktop locks up. Unity is visible but unresponsive. Mouse moves but can't click.
[18:28] <robin_> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[18:29] <juhqa> Hi, problem with my raring installation. I'm using Acer Aspire 4736z. Brightness control and mouse don't work. Any fix?
[18:29] <urgodfather> chiluk: ctrl + alt +f1 no dice
[18:29] <Fazer2> robin_, wilee-nilee: thanks
[18:29] <diverdude> i have been doing sudo apt-get remove mysql-server-5.5 several times and it keeps reappearing.  why cant i remove it?
[18:30] <robin_> Fazer2 Y W  ;)
[18:30] <juhqa> Please help ;(
[18:30] <logix_> hi guys
[18:30] <llutz> diverdude: have you installed the meta-package "mysql-server" too? remove it
[18:30] <diverdude> llutz, what is a meta package?
[18:30] <robin_> Does any1 know how to disable my grub password without reinstalling ubuntu?
[18:31] <IsmAvatar> a meta package is a package that redirects to another package (or set of packages)
[18:31] <chiluk> urgodfather, you know at this point if I were you I would just do a fresh in stall using the 13.04 install.. and just upgrade packages once it's installed.
[18:31] <llutz> diverdude: "These packages do not contain actual software, they simply depend on other packages to be installed. .."
[18:31] <chiluk> wipe it clean and start from new.
[18:32] <urgodfather> chiluk: can i upgrade using disk?
[18:32] <diverdude> llutz, hmm ok. it says this: "Package mysql-server-5.5 is not installed, so not removed"
[18:32] <diverdude> llutz, but it pops up on auto complete anyway
[18:32] <chiluk> I wouldn't upgrade.. I would format your disk using your live usb key or dvd or whatever you have that has 13.04 on it, and start fresh.
[18:33] <chiluk> urgodfather, doesn't have to be your whole disk... but at least your ubuntu partitions.
[18:36] <Walther> Running ubuntu 13.04 and fglrx, my second monitor is white and the cursor is the big black X. However, a right-click will bring up a context menu, but then again, i can't move any windows to the other monitor area
[18:37] <Walther> 2~
[18:37] <Psycho_pr> Hello?
[18:38] <diverdude> llutz, ?
[18:38] <llutz> diverdude: dpkg -l mysql-ser*
[18:40] <krux> Walther, try holding ALT down and dragging ?..
[18:40] <Walther> krux: No, it's not that kind of an issue
[18:41] <Walther> krux: Read the rest of the description as well; there's something "bigger" wrong
[18:42] <diverdude> llutz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5674908/
[18:42] <Walther> There's no background, the possible windows that appear on the second monitor have no borders / no bars / nothing except the content, and system settings doesn't show the second monitor at all
[18:42] <superdo> hi, upgrading to 13.04 from 12.10 keeps my apps and settings?
[18:42] <llutz> diverdude: so none of the mysql-server packages are installed, just some configs left. what is your problem?
[18:42] <MonkeyDust> superdo  how are you upgrading?
[18:43] <superdo> using the ubuntu upgrade popup
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> superdo  sounds good, though i wonder where the popup came from
[18:44] <superdo> eg. update-manager -d
[18:44] <diverdude> llutz, how do i get rid of the configs ? and why does mysql-server-5.5 popping up when i autocomplete apt-get remove mysql-ser[TAB]
[18:45] <superdo> or periodically pops up with updates
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> superdo  sounds good
[18:46] <llutz> diverdude: "sudo aptitude purge '~c'    ", no idea why that still pops up.
[18:46] <superdo> tbh my 12.10 is very crappy so give a chance to 13. At workplace installed 13.04 and runs flawlessly
[18:46] <diverdude> llutz, it must be an ubuntu bug
[18:47] <diverdude> then
[18:47] <IsmAvatar> I installed 13.04 and it doesn't work v_v Trying to rollback to 12.10 right now until I can get some help with my freezing on login issue.
[18:47] <superdo> MonkeyDust, sounds good means my apps remain (expect incompatible ones) ?
[18:47] <castro> isto e em portugues ?
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[18:48] <IsmAvatar> superdo: yes, upgrading will always keep your compatible apps, and will alert you to incompatible ones.
[18:48] <superdo> thx
[18:48] <castro> q progama o ubuntu me ofereçe tipo o ares galaxy do windows
[18:49] <castro> ?
[18:49] <superdo> galaxy warriors destroy windows?? goood :)
[18:52] <kilroy> ubuntu-de
[18:56] <netlar> Are there any problems with Cinnamon 1.8 and gnome 3.6.2?
[18:57] <savio> netlar: I guess no
[18:57] <netlar> savio: you running cinnamon?
[18:57] <savio> Why? Do you facing any issues
[18:58] <savio> netlar: no I'm not
[18:58] <netlar> savio: I am using Unity now
[18:58] <savio> Me too
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> netlar  install cinnamon and try it
[18:58] <Ari-Yang> ^ one way to do it
[18:58] <netlar> MonkeyDust: I just read a few posts that say it may break your system
[18:59] <Ari-Yang> =/
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> !info cinnamon
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> netlar  the internet is full of complaining people
[18:59] <netlar> MonkeyDust: and I can go right back to Unity?
[18:59] <savio> netlar:  try it and see for yourself
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> netlar  logout, change, login
[19:00] <netlar> MonkeyDust: How do you change between the two
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> netlar  in the lightdm menu, the ubuntu symbol
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> or is it a gnome symbol
[19:01] <Ari-Yang> the ubuntu logo in the 'login' box, you click it
[19:01] <Ari-Yang> whatever symbol
[19:01] <netlar> ok thanks
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> i'm now installing kde, want to know if i like it
[19:02] <netlar> I do not actually like kde that much
[19:02] <madprops> why?
[19:02] <madprops> kde is the best de ever
[19:02] <netlar> madprops: reminds me of windows too much
[19:02] <madprops> it has a peanut to change your desktop widgets whenever you need to
[19:02] <Ari-Yang> in your opinion, madprops.
[19:03] <Ari-Yang> it being the "best DE ever" is not a fact.
[19:03] <Ari-Yang> my current DE I'm using is E17
[19:03] <madprops> e17 has nothing on katie-e
[19:04] <Ari-Yang> madprops, this isn't a competition.
[19:04] <Ari-Yang> people prefer diff DEs.
[19:04] <madprops> but you're wrong
[19:04] <JoeyJoeJo> What package would I need to install to get the rfcomm module?
[19:04] <Ari-Yang> DEs don't have "nothing" on each other.
[19:05] <madprops> clearly you know nothing about computers go back to windows
[19:05] <Ari-Yang> lol troll
[19:05] <Ari-Yang> k, I'm done.
[19:05] <llutz> madprops: stop that "mine is longer" please
[19:06] <madprops> ;)
[19:06] <Ari-Yang> btw madprops, there is nothing wrong with somebody going back to windows.
[19:06] <madprops> why do you hate your freedom?
[19:06] <llutz> !ot | madprops
[19:07] <tman> can this heatsink run outside of a case? http://www.ebay.com/itm/140938113279?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
[19:07] <llutz> tman: ask in #hardware
[19:07] <tman> oh ok.
[19:08] <obituary> hello
[19:08] <baldfat> MonkeyDust: KDE is great but KDE Ubuntu default settings are very disappointing and than I have the issue that Unity will switch to Qt toolkit items
[19:09] <baldfat> KDE > Gnome < Tiled Window Managers < Anything else > Gnome
[19:09] <JoeyJoeJo> If I build a kernel and some modules on one machine how can pack it all up into a deb file for another machine?
[19:10] <madprops> baldfat: that makes no sense
[19:11] <baldfat> madprops: OK Trool easier for you | KDE Greater than Gnome Tiled WM better than Gnome and better than Anything else and Gnome is the worst :)
[19:11] <baldfat> I could redo the regex
[19:13] <madprops> it doesn't say that
[19:13] <deadweasel> trying to make a bootable us from file.img in 12.04 x64..  but I'm not sure how to identify which drive is which for the "sudo dd if=/media/DATA/bamt_v0.5c.img of=/dev/sdb bs=1M"
[19:14] <Ziber> I have a supermicro server, but it won't boot because it can't detect the memory (a single 8gb ECC unbuffered stick). Can servers boot with a single stick? Will buying a second one fix it?
[19:16] <compdoc> Ziber, are you saying ubuntu cant detect the ram, or the server itself? Has it ever worked?
[19:16] <deadweasel> the answer to my question is Dash > disk utility
[19:16] <deadweasel> :)
[19:16] <compdoc>  disk utility is great
[19:17] <mdfe> Ziber, bios and post come before the operating system is loaded. if they don't see the ram, the problem is not software
[19:17] <Ziber> compdoc: The server itself - it hasn't yet properly booted. This isn't an ubuntu question, per se. I just didn't know where else I might ask this.
[19:17] <compdoc> Ziber, ##hardware
[19:18] <Ziber> Oh, okay. Thanks.
[19:18] <MonkWitDaFunk> Hi users of ubuntu channel, i am trying to burn my first bootable disk using basero disk burner. The program will not let me burn the iso format to disc at this time
[19:20] <g-maurizi> hi #ubuntu, I REALLY need some help I have been trying to get iptables 1 to 1 NAT working for a week, I have enabled IP forwarding and done 01). ifconfig eth1:1 172.20.2.99 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 172.20.2.255, 02). iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -d 172.20.2.99 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.1.150.20, 03). iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -s 10.1.150.20 -j SNAT --to-source 172.20.2.99, I can
[19:20] <g-maurizi> ping both 10.1.150.20 & 172.20.2.99, if I try to ssh 172.20.2.99 I end up ssh'ing into the box I'm at not the box living at 10.1.150.20.
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> MonkWitDaFunk  is the disk large enough? is it writable?
[19:21] <blob4000> hey all. i have an Asus UX31E laptop here, and during the Ubuntu installer i have Wifi and touchpad working, but when I boot up after installing, neither works. What's going on here?
[19:21] <MonkWitDaFunk> Yeah, i tried inserting a blank dvd and it did not allow me to burn
[19:22] <obituary> How do i download this video?
[19:22] <obituary> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RME5o36I29Y
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> obituary  minitube
[19:22] <obituary> software
[19:23] <obituary> ?
[19:23] <obituary> tq MonkeyDust
[19:23] <llutz> !info youtube-dl | obituary
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> !info minitube | obituary if you prefer a gui
[19:24] <obituary> ohh thanks
[19:24] <obituary> i will try
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> obituary  btw: seen obituary live
[19:24] <zein> why my ubuntu 10.04 doesn't show any broadband network usb modem ?
[19:25] <g-maurizi> pretty please?
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> zein  instead of struggling with 10.04, upgrade to something more recent
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> !10.04
[19:25] <zein> Ok thanks
[19:26] <troulouliou_dev> hi how can i replace mutter by muffin ?
[19:26] <troulouliou_dev> in 13.04
[19:26] <tacomaster> I have ubuntu 13.04 on kernel 3.8.0-21 and everytime i open ubuntu software center my computer screen goes black for a few seconds then i end up having to log in again because it logged me out. I have had this happen to be over 6 times in a row. any ideas?
[19:27] <zein> can ubuntu 13.04 change to classic desktop ?
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> zein  yes, it'z called !fallback, looks like gnome2, but it's gnome3
[19:28] <troulouliou_dev> zein, cinnamon is officialy in the repo now too
[19:28] <zein> Ok monkeyDust thaks for info i will try latter :)
[19:28] <zein> what is chinnamon ?
[19:29] <tacomaster> zein:  the desktop environment that is used in linux mint
[19:29] <troulouliou_dev> zein, a gnome3 fork that looks like gnome-panel
[19:29] <zein> Ok i see
[19:30] <upomoc> can somone help me whit ralink 3070 wireles
[19:31] <kvothetech> upomoc: what about it
[19:31] <g-maurizi> I really need help getting 1:1 nat working. I have enabled IP forwarding and done 01). ifconfig eth1:1 172.20.2.99 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 172.20.2.255, 02). iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -d 172.20.2.99 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.1.150.20, 03). iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -s 10.1.150.20 -j SNAT --to-source 172.20.2.99, I can ping both 10.1.150.20 & 172.20.2.99, if I try to ssh
[19:31] <g-maurizi> 172.20.2.99 I end up ssh'ing into the box I'm at not the box living at 10.1.150.20, help, please?
[19:32] <upomoc> kvothetech:  i cant connetc to wifi  it ask for password again and again i think it hes somthing to do whit wpa supplicate
[19:32] <everestt>  What does it mean when the sound doesn't work for a particular user account but works for all other user account? (Backstory: installed kernel 3.9.2-pf, enabled hibernation... sound stopped working... so disabled hibernation and went back to kernel 3.8.x ...sound doesn't work for me... but works if I log into the guest account) ... what's happening??
[19:33] <kvothetech> everestt: are you using console-kit or ?
[19:33] <netlar> Does linux mint have a channel?
[19:33] <llutz> !mint
[19:33] <kvothetech> everestt: either have all users in the audio group or none..
[19:33] <g-maurizi> is their a more specific channel for linux specific/iptables support?
[19:33] <everestt> kvothetech, I don't think so... I don't even know what console-kit is.
[19:33] <muculus> http://askubuntu.com/questions/296764/mysql5-6-and-problem-of-php5-mysql-mysql-common-packages
[19:33] <zein> are there some cdma phone unlocker tool in ubuntu ?
[19:33] <everestt> kvothetech, oh I also removed my user from the audio group!
[19:34] <bazhang> #netfilter g-maurizi
[19:34] <everestt> kvothetech, let me put me back on the group
[19:34] <g-maurizi> thank god, and thank you!
[19:34] <kvothetech> zein: depends on your phone...theres no generic unlocker
[19:34] <upomoc> kvothetech:  i cant connetc to wifi  it ask for password again and again i think it hes somthing to do whit wpa supplicate
[19:34] <zein> mmhh ok <kvothetech>
[19:34] <kvothetech> upomoc: i saw your answer...what makes you think that
[19:34] <kvothetech> zein: what you have and xda-developers..do i have to say more
[19:35] <everestt> kvothetech, brb
[19:35] <kvothetech> upomoc: what have you tried
[19:35] <upomoc> kvothetech: w8 a sec
[19:38] <zein> kvothetech : Samsung R455C Prepaid xda-developer forum?
[19:39] <upomoc> kvothetech:  beacuse i think it worked 1 time even it just give error after this command but it worked bad and after a litle time it stopet again  "wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf" , e am reserching last 2 days like tard, and as i nov my ralink3070 usb shoud have nativ wpa suplicant and i read on web thet if you cant connect to wpa encripted and it asks for password again and again it hes somthing to do whit dr
[19:39] <everestt> kvothetech, it works! but turns out I was playing sound through 'Digital Output' instead of the 'Speakers'! :P
[19:39] <kvothetech> everestt: lol i'd assumed you'd checked that
[19:40] <everestt> kvothetech, that's usually the first thing I check... but I somehow missed it.. silly me :)
[19:40] <everestt> kvothetech, I'm still scared to try the 2.9.x kernel with hibernation! :))
[19:41] <kvothetech> why the hel are you on 2.9
[19:41] <kvothetech> one the kernel went from 2.6 to 3 so there is no 2.9 2....that was 6 years ago?
[19:41] <everestt> kvothetech,  webupd8 says it increases the os performance on desktops and laptops
[19:42] <everestt> kvothetech, just wanted to see for myself
[19:42] <llutz> everestt: 3.9 you mean
[19:42] <aeLiXihr> bonsoir
[19:42] <everestt> kvothetech, llutz yeah I mean 3.9 :P
[19:43] <kvothetech> er kk that makes more sense i'm on 3.9.2 have been for the last week or two...seems fie
[19:43] <upomoc> kvothetech:  so can you help me?
[19:44] <everestt> kvothetech, mine is (was) 3.9.2-pf ... http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/get-better-linux-desktop-performance.html
[19:45] <aeLiXihr> i have a problem deleting a .trash folder on an external HD
[19:45] <aeLiXihr> Error when getting information for file '/media/USB-HDD/.Trash-1000/files/weg/data_van_oNNo/oNNo/Mis imágenes/oNNo': Input/output error
[19:45] <everestt> kvothetech, is there a ppa for the 3.9.2 kernel? I'm still new on the kernel front
[19:45] <upomoc> kvothetech:  i even try to build new driver but i get  error 137 i think
[19:46] <aeLiXihr> Error removing file: Read-only file system
[19:46] <kvothetech> everestt: i don't know i'm from gentoo i compile my own kernels
[19:46] <kvothetech> upomoc: uhm error 137 with what around i
[19:46] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: mount it as rw
[19:46] <everestt> kvothetech, lol... i'd like to do that someday :P
[19:47] <aeLiXihr> if i do a: sudo rm -fr /media/USB-HDD/.Trash-1000 i get: rm: cannot remove `/media/USB-HDD/.Trash-1000/files/Recycled/Df30.me/Thumbs.db': Read-only file system
[19:47] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: mount -o remount,rw /media/USB-HDd
[19:47] <everestt> kvothetech, how long does it take to compile the kernel?
[19:47] <aeLiXihr> kvothetech: is mounted as such
[19:47] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: is it ntfs
[19:47] <aeLiXihr> yes it is
[19:47] <kvothetech> everestt: depends on hardware and what you put in...
[19:48] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: install ntfs-3g then remount it
[19:48] <kvothetech> everestt: takes me about 8 minutes on an i5 usually
[19:48] <aeLiXihr> kvothetech: thank you i will try now
[19:49] <everestt> kvothetech,  is the performance gain of compiling your own kernel significant enough? Is 'significant' a too vague word to use here??
[19:50] <everestt> *too vague a word :))
[19:50] <neekz0r> you'd only want to compile your own kernel under very specific circumstances
[19:50] <neekz0r> or unless you just want to learn
[19:50] <everestt> neekz0r, what kind of specific circumstances?
[19:51] <kvothetech> everestt: in gentoo you HAVE to...and performance gain..not much...unless you want it to be performance based and then it depends what you're doing what you'd change for performance
[19:51] <neekz0r> back in the day, it made more sense when your processor was 200Mhrz, and every hertz counted
[19:51] <aeLiXihr> kvothetech: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g that is, right?
[19:51] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: idk ubuntu might call it something else but thats generally the package name yeah
[19:52] <upomoc> f this what usb wifi works out of the box on ubuntu?
[19:52] <neekz0r> everestt: if you are building for a specific platform and know what drivers you want to include (and exclude) in addition to knowing exactly what you want to do with it
[19:52] <urgodfather> chiluk: man this thing just keeps getting worse. now, no wifi support, no touchpad support, etc. lol
[19:52] <kvothetech> neekz0r: i think the best advantage is you can throw n EVERYTHING ou need..and not need an initramfs or any modules it can all be built in
[19:53] <neekz0r> IE: if you are making some sort of  linux based router that is using specific hardware and you know you won't ever need wifi, ext4 and etc
[19:53] <kvothetech> urgodfather: ?
[19:53] <everestt> neekz0r, kvothetech ...like if I want to use a computer for a file server then I compile the kernel without sound drivers?
[19:53] <everestt> *as a
[19:53] <chiluk> urgodfather, man you are just having no luck...did you clean install 13.04 yet?
[19:53] <neekz0r> everestt: nah, i'd stick with with the default kernel, you aren't going to get much gain for just a file server
[19:53] <kvothetech> upomoc: you'd have more luck tellin us what you tried didn't try exact chipset wat drivers you're using what the hell error 137 is ec
[19:53] <aeLiXihr> kvothetech: ntfs-3g is already the newest version.
[19:53] <neekz0r> kvothetech: that is true too
[19:54] <kvothetech> neekz0r: though it took me about 10 trys before i didn't forget anything i needed :)
[19:55] <urgodfather> chiluk: no, upgrade. called the customer, im gonna do a clean install now
[19:55] <neekz0r> kvothetech: been there too, it's kinda frustrating.. or when you forget to update your bootloader :P
[19:55] <everestt> neekz0r, kvothetech ...I just want to know a use case where compiling your own kernel is worth it? ...maybe it's interesting for kernel hackers only??
[19:55] <kvothetech> neekz0r: lol yeah then you're stuck with hmm i'm ...not using it god @#$@#$ need to restart
[19:56] <urgodfather> chiluk: from liveboot, just "erase and reinstall ubuntu"?
[19:56] <chiluk> urgodfather, you might consider saving off the customer's home dir first..
[19:56] <upomoc> kvothetech:  look i am try to make this work last 10 days, i am using ralink 3070 usb  and on ZorinOS it works normal (and zorin is just a ubuntu clone) it uses rt2800usb driver and when i boot ubuntu it uses same driver but just cant connect
[19:56] <llutz> everestt: its not worth the time you need to spend. except for learning maybe, the benefits on an average system are minimal
[19:56] <kvothetech> everestt: game servers, embedded systems, not wanting initramfs/modules like i said, just because you can.
[19:57] <chiluk> urgodfather, just don't screw up which partition you install to.
[19:57] <urgodfather> chiluk: they said they dont have anything needed to be backed up
[19:57] <chiluk> urgodfather, that would meak them really angry
[19:57] <neekz0r> everestt: to better understand, think of what a linux router would use; the two nics, iptables, mb drivers, etc. everything else is cruft... so to decrease the cost of hardware, you'd want to custom compile your kernel to be in as a small foot print as possible. if you weed out all the cruft, you don't need much memory nor CPU power
[19:57] <chiluk> urgodfather, don't kill their windows install either..
[19:57] <mdfe> everestt, cifs (samba) and virtualisation support on a chromebook
[19:57] <diverdude> when is mysql 5.6 coming for ubuntu?
[19:57] <chiluk> urgodfather, good luck... if that doesn't fix things... update bios... update firmware...
[19:57] <urgodfather> chiluk: not my first rodeo
[19:58] <chiluk> hell you might even try that first
[19:58] <neekz0r> everestt: so your little linux router would only need a 250mhz processor with 64M of ram to operate at near 100Mb line speeds
[19:58] <kvothetech> upomoc: ok so what shows up in the logs when you try to connect
[19:58] <chiluk> urgodfather, I can't really help you with firmware/bios as that is machine specific.
[19:58] <aeLiXihr> kvothetech: okay, this ntfs-3g is already there, i remounted. if i do a: sudo rm -fr /media/USB-HDD/.Trash-1000 i get: rm: cannot remove `/media/USB-HDD/.Trash-1000/files/Recycled/Df30.me/Thumbs.db': Read-only file system
[19:58] <maui> how can i see the contents of a file as a list and not as icons?!
[19:58] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: type just mount is it mounted read only...
[19:59] <gordonjcp> maui: in nautilus?
[19:59] <kvothetech> maui: ls?
[19:59] <neekz0r> everestt: that's just an example, but usually compiling your own kernel is when you have something very specific in mind; or you just want to screw around :)
[19:59] <maui> any file that contains pdf, images etc
[19:59] <maui> i see contents only as images:/
[19:59] <maui> as icons
[19:59] <maui> i want to see content as list
[19:59] <gordonjcp> maui: <ctrl-2>
[19:59] <mdfe> maui,  ther's a giant button for that in the top right of nautilis
[19:59] <neekz0r> although, to be honest, i see it coming back with cloud computing
[19:59] <maui> what is nautiflus\
[19:59] <upomoc> kvothetech:  i dont want to go this road again i try evryting listed on forums i asked here 10 times and try zilion things , so what good range wifi card works out the box so i go buy it?
[19:59] <neekz0r> when your enviroment is virtual, you don't need all the drivers as modules
[19:59] <maui> forget it, i found it
[20:00] <maui> sorry, stupid question:P
[20:00] <mdfe> maui, nautilus is the 'file explorer' program
[20:00] <samuraibsd> Has anyone using 13.04 with Chrome or Chromium noticed that every time you type in the Unity menu to search, it opens a new about:blank tab?
[20:00] <kvothetech> upomoc: look for an hcl then theres a lot that work fine.
[20:00] <everestt> llutz, kvothetech, neekz0r, mdfe ...I think I get it now :) ...is there a website where I can find news about customized kernels with significant performance gain?
[20:01] <aeLiXihr> kvothetech: idid:  mount -o remount,rw /media/USB-HDD
[20:01] <mdfe> everdred, i thik webupda8 just did an article on custom kernels for performance
[20:01] <aeLiXihr> is that ok?
[20:01] <upomoc> kvothetech:  hc1 what is thet
[20:01] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: kk
[20:01] <llutz> everestt: on an average pc there is no kernel "with significant performance gain?"
[20:01] <aeLiXihr> kk?
[20:01] <kvothetech> upomoc: hardware compatibility list...
[20:01] <mdfe> everestt, sorry, see http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/get-better-linux-desktop-performance.html
[20:02] <everestt> llutz, mdfe ok :)
[20:02] <mdfe> everestt, if that breaks your system, i'm invisible, ok?
[20:02] <kvothetech> llutz: depends what you're doin on it... neekz0r good example llutz it doesn't take more than 3 minutes to learn how to do one ...what takes a while is getting it how you want it /right...again a one time thing though for the most part.
[20:02] <aeLiXihr> kvothetech: mount|grep USB says: (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks)
[20:03] <upomoc> kvothetech:  do you meybe know how to enable  wifi card to use its wpa nativly
[20:03] <kvothetech> upomoc: wpa_supplicant?
[20:04] <llutz> kvothetech: i'm doing this for a while, i guess i can say that a custom kernel for a "normal pc" is wasted time in most cases (except education)
[20:04] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: kk uhm odd umask but other than that it looks riht
[20:04] <everestt> mdfe, I just need to know how to revert to the previous working kernel from a bootable pendrive
[20:04] <Vooloo> my ubuntu keeps nagging me about a partial upgrade, if I do this, will I get the useless sidebar that I don't want?
[20:04] <everestt> mdfe, and I don't know how to do that... yet.
[20:04] <kvothetech> llutz: probably personally i just have fun doing it :)
[20:04] <mdfe> everestt, the kernel will be in /boot and in /lib/modules
[20:04] <neekz0r> everestt: if you are really curious about linux, i suggest LFS (linux from scratch), it'll show you how to make your own distrobution :)
[20:05] <kvothetech> everestt: just edit your grub
[20:05] <upomoc> kvothetech:  so what is wpa_supplicant comand to set it too use nativ card suplicant
[20:05] <jkeiper> can i temporarily stop a daily cron script from running by just moving it out of /etc/cron.daily/ to my home until i'm ready to let it run again?
[20:05] <mdfe> everestt, you need those files, and then you need to run update-grub to rebuild the boot loader
[20:05] <jkeiper> or do i have to follow up by restarting smoething?
[20:05] <llutz> jkeiper: just move the file
[20:06] <kvothetech> jkeiper: crontab -e and comment it?
[20:06] <aeLiXihr> kvothetech: so i am f#ckt?
[20:06] <jkeiper> thanks
[20:06] <everestt> neekz0r, I think I'll give it a try someday... last time I tried (a couple of years ago) I gave up.
[20:06] <thecodeischaos> if i disconnect from a wifi network... after a while, that network is not visible from the taskbar icon... i can see it in "hidden networks" though. why does it go there?
[20:06] <llutz> jkeiper: or add "exit 0" at the beginning of the script, until you're done
[20:06] <everestt> kvothetech, yep.
[20:06] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: no.
[20:06] <jkeiper> llutz: ooh, i like that better
[20:07] <aeLiXihr> :) than what do i do next ?
[20:07] <thecodeischaos> the network isnt hidden though, because my other computers can see it
[20:07] <everestt> kvothetech, neekz0r, llutz, mdfe ...thank you all :) ...I'll go put 3.9.2-pf again and hope the sound doesn't break this time.
[20:07] <jkeiper> thx llutz
[20:08] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: well it's mounted rw...it's saying read only..so stupid question...does your user have perms to access the folder (execute permissions on the dir) you're trying to delete
[20:08] <thecodeischaos> but ubuntu thinks it is hidden because i disconnected from it manually
[20:08] <aeLiXihr> yes that too, but i did a sudo
[20:08] <kvothetech> thecodeischaos: ?
[20:09] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: kk....i'm missing something stupid...someone else will point it out in about 10 seconds
[20:09] <aeLiXihr> i dunno
[20:09] <thecodeischaos> i was connected to my wifi network on my other pc, and manually disconnected from it.... then after a while on that machine i couldnt see the network anymore... but i can see it in "hidden networks"
[20:09] <aeLiXihr> i have been fighting the thing for 3 days by now
[20:10] <thecodeischaos> it dosnt show up normally again until i reboot the machine
[20:10] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: ok just unmount it completely for a sec
[20:10] <aeLiXihr> shall i shut it off?
[20:10] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: aeLiXihr no just unmount it
[20:10] <everestt> (brb)
[20:11] <aeLiXihr> mount -o rw /media/USB-HDD ?
[20:12] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr:  as root yeah do that in /media or somewhere
[20:12] <kvothetech> thecodeischaos: put your card in promiscuous mode and tcpdump
[20:13] <kvothetech> thecodeischaos: do you see your ssid being broadcasted....if you want you can use airomon and airodump
[20:13] <samuraibsd> Guys, this problem is really weird and I'm kind of desperate to find a fix for it
[20:13] <llutz> "iwlist s" does
[20:13] <aeLiXihr> kvothetech: sudo unmount -o rw /media/USB-HDD ?
[20:13] <AleXa> od prelaska na 13.04 grafika mi mnogo secka
[20:14] <AleXa> brat se žali na igrice
[20:14] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: sudo umount /media/USB-HDD
[20:14] <aeLiXihr> tnx
[20:14] <AleXa> a ja  primetim da mi kod video player-a embedovanog na web stranici takođe secka - a nije net u pitanju
[20:14] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: then sudo mount -o rw /dev/<device><partition> /media
[20:14] <aeLiXihr> done
[20:15] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr:  sudo rm -rf yourfilehere
[20:15] <AleXa> Sorry, mistake.
[20:15] <kvothetech> AleXa: english?
[20:15] <aeLiXihr> kvothetech: eh?
[20:15] <kvothetech> llutz: huh?
[20:16] <AleXa> Having problem with graphics since moving to 13.04. Brother says graphic in games is pitty, and I've noticed glitches when watching some video online
[20:16] <kvothetech> samuraibsd: what problem
[20:16] <ozux> I'm trying to restart network with /etc/init.d/networking but there is no effect, can't find any bug report, any body have idea what has been changed?
[20:16] <AleXa> What shall I do?
[20:17] <kvothetech> ozux: ?? do stop then start if that works then restart should work fine just does it faster than youre wathing
[20:17] <kvothetech> AleXa: give us useful infromation would be a good start.
[20:17] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: did that work
[20:18] <ozux> kvothetech: tried to stop, and start , no effect
[20:18] <aeLiXihr> i do not understand what to do
[20:18] <desperateinstall> Hello all!  Fourth time around for an install of ringtail.  Installs just fine, but the first reboot hangs on the bootloader.  X64 samsung laptop.  What am I doing wrong?
[20:18] <ozux> kvothetech: it's server, no network manager
[20:18] <AleXa> I'm using X.org X server - ATI AMD driver
[20:18] <aeLiXihr> i unmounted
[20:18] <ozux> kvothetech: and no silly configs, pretty standard
[20:18] <AleXa> **open-source
[20:19] <kvothetech> ozux: so then stop should be pretty obvious if it works...
[20:19] <AleXa> What other infos can I provide you?
[20:19] <m0nk3yjoe> I'm trying to install Ubuntu LTS 12.04.2 on a dell Dimension e310 and it installs but just crashes after Grub menu
[20:19] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: follow the 2 commands after that
[20:19] <ozux> kvothetech: Yep, but after start, i get same configs before stop.
[20:19] <m0nk3yjoe> I have tried to go to recovery options but it crashes and says compression error
[20:19] <m0nk3yjoe> Any ideas
[20:19] <aeLiXihr> i do not get that: sudo mount -o rw /dev/<device><partition> /media sudo rm -rf yourfilehere
[20:20] <kvothetech> AleXa: X info exact games, video mech used that didn't work which amd driver and chipset...framerates..
[20:20] <aeLiXihr> i do not know what to fill in
[20:20] <ozux> m0nk3yjoe: error 26?  This error is returned if the file header for a supposedly compressed file is bad.
[20:20] <kvothetech> ozux: so did you change the config
[20:20] <ozux> m0nk3yjoe: most likely, you should try re-installing grub
[20:21] <m0nk3yjoe> ozux, Off CD right?
[20:21] <ozux> kvothetech: yes, indeed, that's the reason I need to restart networking.
[20:21] <g-maurizi> #ubuntu, solved my problem. I was testing my NAT rule from the console of the router, and did not have an OUTPUT rule in iptables for the NAT. ty
[20:22] <ozux> m0nk3yjoe: to be honest, it's a while I did not use CD. Normally I re-install grub by booting a live disk and issue grub install
[20:22] <AleXa> games are run over wine: WoW and Counter Strike. But the whole system is somehow slowed down. When I scroll down through the page in Firefox, it's slicing
[20:22] <ozux> m0nk3yjoe: you may try super grub disk
[20:22] <AleXa> btw, OpenGL is used for both games
[20:22] <ozux> m0nk3yjoe: you installed grub 0n MBR isn't? Does it show the grub menu? and options?
[20:22] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: uhm you should have gotten it earlier from your mount command if you dont know otherwise /dev/sd(b,c,d)(1,2,3) are common depending on drive count/partitions
[20:23] <kvothetech> AleXa: turn off vsync
[20:23] <aeLiXihr> sdb it is
[20:23] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: so sdb1 then
[20:23] <aeLiXihr> ok
[20:23] <ozux> kvothetech: every time I have to restart, or try ifconfig eth0 down, then eth1 and eth2
[20:23] <llutz> ozux: sudo nohup sh -c "invoke-rc.d networking stop; sleep 2; invoke-rc.d networking start"
[20:24] <castedo> hi all, how can i know what type of cipher is being used on a drive?
[20:24] <ozux> kvothetech:  the point is, I get to the new config, but the fact /etc/.../networking restart is not working is quite strange for me
[20:24] <aeLiXihr> kvothetech: sudo mount -o rw /dev/sdb1 ?
[20:24] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: yes
[20:24] <aeLiXihr> tnx
[20:24] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: you need a /media after it
[20:24] <kvothetech> so it knows where to put it
[20:24] <aeLiXihr> ok
[20:25] <aeLiXihr> kvothetech: done
[20:26] <urgodfather> chiluk: clean install, up to date, still no connect. just prompts for the key again, then trys to connect
[20:26] <ozux> llutz: nope. I have still my old eth0 IP address
[20:26] <AleXa> kvothetech, I'm not able to google how to turn off the vsync in xubuntu (xfce)
[20:26] <llutz> ozux: then check your config
[20:26] <aeLiXihr> kvothetech: what is: sudo rm -rf yourfilehere ?
[20:27] <kvothetech> AleXa: i use xmonad (and i don't use wine) so no idea then if you already did that
[20:27] <aeLiXihr> it is a folder i wish to get rid of
[20:27] <lulz0r> Can someone help me reading the cpu temperatures over ssh? (Have root access, machine is right next to me.) I installed lm-sensors, but they only show this https://ideone.com/oV1gYq and it's always exactly the same, even if I put load on the cpu. I have a 3770k and a msi z77a-g43 board. I already tried sensors-detect and modprobe lm78, but that didn't change anything. What should I do?
[20:27] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: thatll work for a folder...the -r is recursive the -f is dont ask
[20:27] <kvothetech> lulz0r: get worse cooling :)
[20:28] <kvothetech> lulz0r: i did'nt actually click the link :)
[20:29] <lulz0r> kvothetech I doubt my cooling is so good that the temperature doesn't change one bit :D
[20:29] <aeLiXihr> kvothetech: sudo rm -rf /media/USB-HDD/.Trash-1000 ?
[20:30] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: you should just have to type /media unless you remounted it to /media/USB-HDD
[20:30] <dev__> I want to launch 3 basic servers on boot and keep them running in gnome-terminal tabs. I've written up a bash script to do this but the windows all return "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal". Any idea how to do this?
[20:30] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: er /media/.Trash-1000
[20:30] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: or you had it right if you mounted it back to the exact same spot
[20:30] <urgodfather> anyone else got experience in troubleshooting wifi? clean install 13.04, up to date, intel advanced-n 6235. can see networks, just not connect. chip is new, works fine in winblows.
[20:31] <Biomechd> how do i clear my java cache?
[20:31] <kvothetech> lulz0r: hey i was being optimistic :)
[20:31] <aeLiXihr> ah, something is happening
[20:31] <kvothetech> urgodfather: use iwl
[20:31] <lulz0r> kvothetech: I just don't get how such an easy thing can be that hard, it's like 5 clicks on windows. :(
[20:32] <urgodfather> kvothetech: how to? what commands? never used it before
[20:32] <aeLiXihr> kvothetech: hmmm, the same long list of: rm: cannot remove `/media/USB-HDD/.Trash-1000/files/Recycled/Df30.me/Thumbs.db': Read-only file system
[20:32] <kvothetech> urgodfather: the centrino n cards almost always work better with iwl
[20:33] <kvothetech> urgodfather: uhm i compiled it into my kernel but you should be able to modprobe it too
[20:33] <urgodfather> kvothetech: how?
[20:33] <kvothetech> urgodfather: then rmmod the one you have /are using now
[20:33] <niel> hello im thinking about ditching my iphone and going to android I have an Ubuntu computer any suggestion of what phone or what to do?
[20:33] <kvothetech> niel: note 2 or nexus 4
[20:33] <llutz> niel: wrong channel
[20:34] <niel> ?
[20:34] <niel> how so?
[20:34] <aeLiXihr> thank you anyway!
[20:34] <niel> what channel should I be in?
[20:34] <aeLiXihr> kvothetech: i am going of, thanks again!
[20:34] <guntbert_> niel: this channel is for ubuntu support *only*
[20:34] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: ....ls -Zal that folder
[20:35] <niel> guntbert_, well I was asking for support for a question
[20:35] <urgodfather> kvothetech: woudl this be a suitable tutorial? http://askubuntu.com/questions/287369/how-install-iwlwifi-driver-in-ubuntu-13-04
[20:35] <kvothetech> niel: note2 best specs ....nexus 4 ...better community
[20:35] <Biomechd> does anyone know how to clear my java cache? a program i'm trying to use isn't working, and before i got a thing about clearing my java cache.
[20:35] <kvothetech> urgodfather: idk i'm not on ubuntu...judging from link title yeah sounds right
[20:36] <niel> now is ubuntu hard to install once I get the phone google is not helping
[20:36] <kvothetech> niel: you want ubuntu on the phone? or android...
[20:36] <kvothetech> niel: you just changed your question
[20:36] <aeLiXihr> kvothetech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5675239/
[20:36] <guntbert_> niel: we are providing technical ubuntu support here - discussions and polls happen elsewhere please
[20:36] <llutz> niel: ubuntu has mtp support, so android phones can be accessed in general. what phone you have to buy is offtopic here
[20:36] <baba> does ubuntu supports qemu ?
[20:37] <urgodfather> kvothetech: or something from here? http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi#Download
[20:37] <niel> kvothetech, can I pm you?
[20:37] <llutz> baba: yes
[20:37] <kvothetech> niel: no
[20:38] <baba> llutz: cool
[20:38] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> what is the best way to have hotmail integration or under the mail icon in the top right?
[20:38] <urgodfather> kvothetech: ok, so different driver but how to install?
[20:38] <kvothetech> urgodfather: iwlwifi is what you want how you get it is up to you...like i said...compile it into your kernel (it should come with the sources) or modprobe it if you already have it as a module.
[20:38] <baba> llutz: should i choose ubuntu server or desktop edition ?
[20:39] <kvothetech> baba: depends what you want?
[20:39] <llutz> baba: how would i know?
[20:39] <aeLiXihr> kvothetech: goodnight, thank you! :)
[20:39] <urgodfather> kvothetech: its a tarball
[20:39] <kvothetech> aeLiXihr: sorry didn't get it to work
[20:39] <kvothetech> urgodfather: extract it
[20:39] <muculus>  http://dba.stackexchange.com/questions/42464/packages-that-php-need-to-connect-to-mysql
[20:39] <kvothetech> ae Likihr that last test was to see if selinux or something was in the way
[20:39] <baba> from stability and support point of view which one i should select, i need to emulate sparc and arm platforms.
[20:40] <baba> kvothetech: ^^
[20:40] <urgodfather> kvothetech: i know that much, I'm transferring to laptop now.
[20:41] <upomoc>  kvothetech:  i figur what is my problem  it is drivers newer drivers dont work good does somone know how to downgrade drivers from driver=rt2800usb driverversion=3.8.0-19-generic TO driver=rt2800usb driverversion=3.2.0-41-generic-pae
[20:42] <Elements_of_inst> Hello all! how i can decide what hosting to hire for website i am currently running website with 5000+ hosts a day, but it is a shared virtual hosting and website most of the time is down, how to determine if i need VPS, VDS or dedicated server?
[20:42] <upomoc> and i remeber on older ubuntu it worked normal
[20:42] <kvothetech> upomoc: by removing the new ones and putting in the old ones
[20:43] <kvothetech> Elements_of_inst: a vps is a vds they're the same thing first off
[20:43] <Biomechd> i have an online class soon and blackboard apparently can't connect until i clear my java cache. how do i do this in ubuntu?
[20:43] <Elements_of_inst> kvothetech, yes thats true, you are right!
[20:43] <kvothetech> Elements_of_inst: budget, scalability, locaiton, hardware availability, experience, etc all are factors...
[20:44] <urgodfather> kvothetech: says to cp into /lib/firmware and then it can be loaded. how to load?
[20:44] <kvothetech> urgodfather: modprobe?
[20:44] <Elements_of_inst> kvothetech, not sure what you mean by that, i thought that the server parameters are more important that my phisical location:)
[20:45] <urgodfather> kvothetech: modprobe .... what?
[20:45] <kvothetech> Elements_of_inst: if it's a dedicated or a colo...it matters where it is....whether you want a vps or a dedicated should depend on your budget scalability ou want and whether you know what you're doing or not
[20:45] <kvothetech> urgodfather: modprobe iwlwifi
[20:46] <Elements_of_inst> kvothetech, how is that? :)) IF it is a virtual shared server then it doesnt metter where it is?"
[20:46] <kvothetech> Elements_of_inst: if you go that route it might not but you probably want to stay in your country.....
[20:47] <Elements_of_inst> kvothetech, no not in my country my website has internatial traffic
[20:47] <kvothetech> Elements_of_inst: i was listing things to consider...if you live across the street from a datacenter and have hardware to colo it'd be stupid to vps in a country on the other side of the world for example
[20:47] <urgodfather> kvothetech: shouldnt i rkill or something first?
[20:47] <kvothetech> urgodfather: modprobe -r <module it's using now>
[20:48] <upomoc> kvothetech:  f my wifi buged i hed to rebot to ZorinOS anywey how to remove new driver and install old i know i can modprobe -r rt2800usb but dont know  any more
[20:49] <Tarso> #analizo
[20:49] <Biomechd> guys, i have a virtual class in 10 minutes and i need to clear my java cache so i can use blackboard collaborate. how do i do that?
[20:49] <Tarso> ops
[20:49] <Tarso> sry
[20:49] <urgodfather> kvothetech: i rebooted
[20:49] <kvothetech> urgodfather: ok
[20:49] <upomoc>         how to downgred drivers
[20:50] <kvothetech> urgodfather: lsmod grep to see if it's loaded
[20:51] <Biomechd> kvothetech: can you help, perhaps?
[20:52] <urgodfather> kvothetech: lsmod | grep didnt work
[20:52] <kvothetech> urgodfather: ?
[20:53] <kvothetech> Biomechd: uhm .java or /tmp would be my guess
[20:53] <musca> ls ~/.icedteaplugin/cache
[20:53] <bekks> urgodfather: lsmod | grep whattogrepfor
[20:53] <urgodfather> kvothetech: did i use the command right?
[20:53] <upomoc> how to downgrade rt2800 driver older
[20:53] <urgodfather> bekks: so... lsmod | grep intel??
[20:54] <OerHeks> Biomechd, last item:> https://confluence.hatsize.com/display/SUPPORTKBASE/Clearing+JAVA+Plug-in+Cache+(Java+1.5,+1.6)   > should work for oracle java, for openJDK > rm -rf ~/.icedteaplugin/cache
[20:54] <kvothetech> urgodfather: iwlwifi is what you're grepping for
[20:54] <bekks> urgodfather: If the module is named intel or contains the string intel - yes.
[20:54] <uroyanme> is the Msn dashboard for a microsoft browser and not Chrome?
[20:55] <urgodfather> ok now i have something
[20:55] <kvothetech> urgodfather: ok now test your card
[20:55] <urgodfather> iwlwifi 1 dvm and cfg80211 3 iwlwifi
[20:56] <kvothetech> urgodfather: i think you're supposed to have a mac80211 but maybe not...try it
[20:56] <kvothetech> uroyanme: what?
[20:57] <urgodfather> kvothetech: yeah cfg80211.... 3.... iwlwifi, mac80211, and iwldvm
[20:57] <kvothetech> urgodfather: and does it work?
[20:58] <urgodfather> kvothetech: negative ghost rider
[20:58] <kvothetech> urgodfather: error is?
[20:58] <uroyanme> Can is use the msn browser or dashboard on Ubuntu? My dad was asking me this.
[20:59] <kvothetech> uroyanme: i'm not sure what you mean by msn browser because last i checked there is no such thing ....
[20:59] <Biomechd> OerHeks: could i perhaps just delete everything in the .icedtea/cache/ folder?
[20:59] <kvothetech> Biomechd: yes
[20:59] <OerHeks> Biomechd, sure
[20:59] <urgodfather> kvothetech: same problem.. trys to connect then just prompts for pw again
[20:59] <uroyanme> Ok, I am trying to look up msn dashboard... ick
[20:59] <Biomechd> alright, just wanted to make sure i wouldn't be messing anything up.
[20:59] <kvothetech> urgodfather: hmm does your wpa supplicant work?
[20:59] <OerHeks> Biomechd, after that, restart your browser
[21:00] <uroyanme> Oh, will MSN explorer work on Ubuntu?
[21:00] <urgodfather> kvothetech: i dunno but the network is wep anyways
[21:00] <OerHeks> uroyanme, maybe with wine
[21:01] <uroyanme> Ick, that will be very slow.
[21:01] <kvothetech> urgodfather: kk so we can rule out wpasupp..
[21:02] <urgodfather> kvothetech: i had this same problem when i installed the same card in a different pc. was a clean load of 12.10 on it. it took a few reboots and many connect attempts, but once it got connected the first time, did not have anymore issues
[21:04] <uroyanme> Can anyone suggest a browser for Ubuntu that I can customize?
[21:05] <urgodfather> kvothetech: its certified hardware, should i be having this much trouble?
[21:05] <Biomechd> thanks OerHeks and kvothetech. the blackboard java file's downloading stuff now.
[21:06] <akurilin2> Is there an appropriate folder where I could have the www-data user save temporary files?
[21:07] <kvothetech> akurilin2: /tmp seems a bit obvious
[21:07] <akurilin2> Is it awful if I create something like /var/nginx and chown www-data to it?
[21:07] <kvothetech> akurilin2: that works too
[21:08] <akurilin2> kvothetech, the question is, am I breaking some kind of smart best practice here as far permissions to low-privilege users are concerned?
[21:08] <llutz>  /tmp is a bad idea, if its not on its own filesystem. no webserver should be able to fill /
[21:08] <akurilin2> if I do the above.
[21:10] <vlad_starkov> Question: can anyone explain me how it is possible that after I changed faulty HDD in my RAID1 and launched recovery process, after system boot I have clear system with no software and my data like?????
[21:11] <urgodfather> kvothetech: am i supposed to re-compile the kernel after i copied that ucode into /lib/firmware?
[21:11] <urgodfather> kvothetech: if so, how?
[21:13] <baibu> manu 51
[21:13] <Jordan_U> vlad_starkov: Did you allow the system to run in degraded mode or was it configured to fail to boot when degraded?
[21:14] <baibu> 72.240.1.3) Quit.2.7.69) bla bla bla
[21:15] <Tony> Is there a way to set umask for all the files created by a user, having a issue with a user, he wants all is file to be 755 upon creation but befault  ubuntu appears to be using 644
[21:16] <Tony> I tried setting umaek 022 under the .profile and .bashrc but that doesn't appear to work, any clues
[21:16] <groovehunter> hi, i wanted to install a .deb manually, did not work, now want to deselect it again?
[21:16] <bekks> the umask 022 is the default.
[21:16] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> how can i grab all the out put from htop to a file ... there is a certin presss running that has lots of pharms, and the gui front end is limited so i want to  modify it for a terminal
[21:16] <baibu> bla bla bla
[21:17] <vlad_starkov> Jordan_U: it run in degraded mode
[21:18] <Tony> bekks: do you know how to set this persmissions o the user files are coming with 755
[21:18] <bekks> Tony: They are set like that by default.
[21:18] <Jordan_U> vlad_starkov: Is it possible that it has been running in degraded mode for a very long time?
[21:18] <Tony> bekks: it appears that that only applis to directories
[21:18] <Tony> applied to direcotries, whent the use creates a file, they are showing as 644
[21:19] <bekks> Tony: 755 applies to directories, due to the execution flag, which is not needed for files, thus they are 644 by default.
[21:19] <bekks> Tony: You dont want to set 755 on _all_ files, since thats not needed.
[21:19] <llutz> Tony: umask 0022 makes dirs (base permission 777) 755 and files (666) 644
[21:19] <Tony> bekks: but I want the users files to have 755 by default
[21:19] <bekks> Tony: Why?
[21:19] <vlad_starkov> Jordan_U: no
[21:19] <Tony> the users wants it that way
[21:19] <bekks> Tony: Why do you want a stock text file to be executable?
[21:20] <llutz> Tony: you cannot use umask for that
[21:20] <Tony> most of the files are web pages and they have to have the rx bits set
[21:20] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> what was that one way you can list a running process, i think i had 'ps' or 'eq' in it
[21:20] <bekks> llutz: You have to use ACL then.
[21:20] <Tony> otherwise the webserver can read them
[21:20] <llutz> bekks: tony has to
[21:20] <Tony> the user doesn't want to chmod the files, he wants it automatically done
[21:20] <vlad_starkov> Jordan_U: I started repairing system 2 hours after it failed
[21:20] <vlad_starkov> Jordan_U: the system contain web servers, database....
[21:20] <bekks> Tony: And the webserver can read them, but cant execute them. If it is configured like that, reconfigure the webserver.
[21:21]  * baibu slaps [deXter] around a bit with a large trout
[21:21] <Tony> bekks: pointer on using acl for this purpose
[21:21] <baibu> cade seu cowboy?
[21:21] <llutz> can any op please show baibu the door, thanks
[21:21] <dev__> I want to launch 3 basic servers on boot and keep them running in gnome-terminal tabs. I've written up a bash script to do this but the windows all return "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal". Any idea how to do this?
[21:21] <vlad_starkov> with all users data
[21:21] <bekks> Tony: It is nonsense to force a .html/.php/.whatever file to have execution permissions, when the file is just read and then interpreted/executed by the webserver/some API.
[21:21] <bekks> Tony: Its a pretty bad design.
[21:22] <bekks> !acl
[21:22] <Jordan_U> baibu: Please stay on topic and productive.
[21:22] <Tony> bekks: the user is mainly using .css
[21:23] <bekks> Tony: Which do not have to be executed. They do not contain anything executable.
[21:23] <vlad_starkov> Jordan_U: I can't understand why it look like a virgin if I have 1 of 2 HDD in 100% health. Another one is in recovery process for the moment.
[21:25] <holy-one_tpi-usa> how do i connect to tpb on here?
[21:25] <Jordan_U> holy-one_tpi-usa: What is "tpb"?
[21:26] <llutz> The Pirate Bay (tpb)
[21:26] <holy-one_tpi-usa> the pirate bay? they have an irc sever ppi
[21:27] <giulio> hi
[21:27] <holy-one_tpi-usa> not sure how to connect
[21:27] <giulio> !list
[21:27] <llutz> holy-one_tpi-usa: ask in #freenode
[21:27] <Jordan_U> holy-one_tpi-usa: This is Freenode, not the pirate bay's servers.
[21:27] <holy-one_tpi-usa> kk thanks
[21:28] <bfig> hello, i'm wondering, what is the easiest way to connect to a l2tp vpn?
[21:29] <bfig> (with shared secret)
[21:31] <Jordan_U> vlad_starkov: The only explanation that I can think of for the symptoms you're seeing is this, where "drive A" is the drive you've removed, "drive B" is the other drive that was in the RAID originally, and "drive C" is the new drive: Shortly after installing your system (while it still didn't have much software installed or data created) drive B failed to be added to the array for some reason (maybe hardware, maybe software) and ...
[21:31] <Jordan_U> ... since then you've been running in degraded mode using only drive A. After seeing that drive A was having hardware issues, you replaced it with drive C and tried to sync C with A, but A hasn't been part of the RAID for a long time. Hence you are brought back to the very early state before A was (somehow) removed from the array.
[21:31] <sscorrea> bfig, have you already installed l2tp vpn client?
[21:32] <bfig> i tried, but it didn't let me put the shared secret anywhere
[21:32] <chiluk> urgodfather, how's it going missed your last update.
[21:32] <Jordan_U> vlad_starkov: Make that last sentence "before B was somehow removed from the array."
[21:32] <bfig> sscorrea, ^
[21:33] <vlad_starkov> Jordan_U: I see your point. I'll check data availablity on removed drive.
[21:33] <Jordan_U> vlad_starkov: In other words, most of your data exists only on drive A, which is unfortunate given that drive A is having hardware problems.
[21:33] <sscorrea> l2tp-ipset vpn?
[21:33] <sscorrea> bfig, did you install l2tp ipset vpn?
[21:34] <nyc-h0st> guys, odd problem ,grub keeps trying to install to sda during installation, is there a way to change it to install to sdc? i cant change the order the drives are reported
[21:34] <bfig> sscorrea, yes... the gui doesn't let me input the shared secret anywhere
[21:34] <vlad_starkov> Jordan_U: so you mean that drive B and drive C are healthy?
[21:35] <vlad_starkov> Jordan_U: and drive A is faulty and now I sync drive B with new drive C?
[21:35] <sscorrea> bfig, go to the PPP tab, check ms-chap and ms-chapv
[21:35] <sscorrea> add your user and password
[21:35] <Jordan_U> vlad_starkov: Only because you seemed to be assuming they were. It may be that at least drive B is unhealthy as that would explain it not being a part of the array for so long.
[21:36] <Jordan_U> vlad_starkov: And I'm also assuming that by "healthy" you're reffering only to the hardware itself, not the data contained therein.
[21:36] <vlad_starkov> Jordan_U: so is there a chance that I removed the wrong drive – drive A and I should put it back and remove drive B
[21:37] <vlad_starkov> Jordan_U: healthy – only hardware sure
[21:37] <nyc-h0st> anyone? is there a way to update the MBR on a drive other than the first during install?
[21:37] <llutz> nyc-h0st: sudo grub-install /dev/sdX
[21:38] <nyc-h0st> llutz, i assume i'd have to boot using the cd post-installation to do that?
[21:38] <Jordan_U> vlad_starkov: Yes, there is that chance. I haven't worked much with mdraid so I don't know how likely it is that this could happen, but probably the worst thing that could happen right now would be for the data on drive C or B to be mirrored onto drive A, overwriting all your actual data, so be careful to avoid that.
[21:39] <llutz> nyc-h0st: i'd guess so. you also could try to open a terminal while installing and issue the command there
[21:39] <nyc-h0st> tried that already :)
[21:39] <vlad_starkov> Jordan_U: before I put back drive A I'll clone it.
[21:39] <nyc-h0st> ok, thx
[21:39] <llutz> nyc-h0st: sry i'm not familiar with the live-cd/installation
[21:39] <vlad_starkov> to external drive
[21:40] <Jordan_U> nyc-h0st: llutz: You need to at least add a --boot-directory argument to grub-install when installing from a LiveCD.
[21:40] <nyc-h0st> ok, i found a way, kind of lame, but if you hit 'No' to the MBR installer it prompts which drive you'd like to use
[21:40] <p014k> So I am no longer in the sudoers file for my computer....I don't know what I did, but I was trying to change permissions for a directory yesterday via various commands, but at no point did I pess with my username (but only with a guest's username). When I try to do sudo, It says I'm no longer in the sudoers list. I tried doing su, to login as root, but it gives me an authentication error. What is the default su password?
[21:40] <nyc-h0st> i could swear i tried that already
[21:41] <nyc-h0st> anyway, thx guys
[21:41] <Jordan_U> vlad_starkov: Might as well clone it using GNU ddrescue. If the drive is fine, it will be just as fast as dd, and if it is damaged then GNU ddrescue will likely recover more data.
[21:41] <llutz> p014k: there is no default password, su needs roots password, which isn't set
[21:42] <p014k> so what do I do?
[21:42] <llutz> p014k: boot in recovery mode or from live-cd and fix sudoers file
[21:42] <phuff> I'm getting Failed getting release file http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release when running lxc-create and I'm guessing that I need to redirect lxc-create to the right place to get maverick, but I can't see the proper way to do so in the help for the ubuntu template I've got...
[21:42] <llutz> or your users groups p014k
[21:43] <Jordan_U> p014k: It's most likely that your /etc/sudoers is fine but that you removed yourself from the "sudo" or "admin" group.
[21:43] <p014k> that's probably true, I did change my group...
[21:43] <p014k> I thought I was adding myself to a new group i created
[21:43] <Jordan_U> phuff: Maverick is EOL, please use a supported version of Ubuntu.
[21:43] <sscorrea> just add that group to sudoers
[21:44] <llutz> p014k: let me guess, using "usermod -G group ...."?
[21:44] <sscorrea> through recovery
[21:44] <p014k> ya, lol
[21:44] <phuff> Jordan_U I'd love to, but I need to build for a 10.10 host that is in production :(
[21:44] <vith> i'm trying to set up a ubuntu vm as a vpn gateway for another device on my lan to use. i have the vpn connected and ip forwarding works, but it forwards to my router instead of to the vpn even though traffic generated on ubuntu goes to the vpn. any ideas?
[21:44] <llutz> p014k: usermod -aG   or better adduser user group    next time
[21:44] <phuff> Well, that I have no ability to upgrade, it's technically not in production production.
[21:44] <p014k> So recovery mode then. In that be su?
[21:44] <Jordan_U> p014k: You didn't just add yourself to that group, you set that as the *only* group you were a member of :)
[21:44] <p014k> I'll be*
[21:44] <p014k> Jordan_U: right..:/
[21:45] <sscorrea> yes there you may login as root
[21:45] <Jordan_U> p014k: If you boot into recovery mode you will be able to get to a root shell, yes.
[21:45] <vlad_starkov> Jordan_U: I'm on Mac. What do you recommend then?
[21:45] <p014k> ok, thx. I'll be back if I don't figure it out :) Thanks
[21:45] <vlad_starkov> Jordan_U: I'have dd
[21:46] <mah454> Hello
[21:46] <Jordan_U> vlad_starkov: I would personally boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB and install and use GNU ddrescue, but if you are confidant that the drive is fine dd should work just fine.
[21:47] <Sniperm4n> hey everyone, I have what I hope is a quick question regarding the failover feature of DHCPD in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. can anyone assist? =)
[21:47] <Jordan_U> vlad_starkov: If the drive does have bad sectors then dd will stop at the first error, leaving you with an incomplete image and will will be difficult (though not impossible) to create the rest of the image from blocks that can be read.
[21:48] <mah454> laptop-mode-tools Or tlp ?
[21:49] <bekks> mah454: And whats the full question?
[21:49] <mah454> bekks: for power saving in Laptop
[21:49] <mah454> I want to install some packages ...
[21:50] <bekks> mah454: And whats the full question...?
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> great! Install those packages! that will teach them!
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> ;P
[21:50] <mah454> now i dont know , what is different laptop-mode-tools and tlp ?
[21:50] <mah454> what package is better ?
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> tlp is a recent 'creation'
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> try tlp and see if it works well for you.
[21:51] <Sniperm4n> I'm replacing a single dying DHCP server with 2 new servers configured with failover. my question is: Do dhcpd.leases and dhcpd.leases~ need to be copied to BOTH the primary and secondary failover peer, or does the protocol sync the file from the primary to secondary?
[21:51] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> i made a sh file, it does work when in teminal i do ./Virus_Scan.sh ... How can i make it so when i use "Files" from the launcher, find the file and doubble click it and it will open in a terminal.. Cant even get that far... and now close the terminal when the process is done?
[21:51] <Sniperm4n> and, in turn, automatically keep the files in sync?
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:   best way would be to make a .desktop launcher file for the script that way you get a proper icon.
[21:52] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> this is for a friend who is command line uneducated
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  and have the laucnher run somthing like 'xterm -e /path/to/the/Virusscan.sh'
[21:52] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> how do i do the .desktop  Dr_Willis
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  look for an example one such as gedit.desktop and copy/rename/modify it as needed.
[21:52] <vlad_starkov> Jordan_U: OK. I'll start one more attempt.
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> locate gedit.desktop          will show where gedit.desktop is at.
[21:53] <Carter2> So I have a quick question about Ubuntu Server 12.03 -> 13.04
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  how often is he even needing to scan for viruses?  and what av app is the script using?
[21:53] <urgodfather> chiluk: i reinstalled 13.04, didnt need any data. touchpad is working again, as is everything else... EXCEPT that 6235 wifi card. i obtained the ucode from http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi#Download for the card and cp'd into the firmware folder
[21:53] <urgodfather> chiluk: but dont know what to do next
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  http://askubuntu.com/search?q=create+launcher
[21:54] <chiluk> urgodfather, one sec... before I steal your nic...
[21:54] <Carter2> I ran a sudo do-release-upgrade, and went through everything
[21:54] <Carter2> but then after a reboot, it says "new release '13.04' is available.
[21:55] <chiluk> urgodfather,  and anyone else know the name of the package that includes backported wifi drivers?
[21:55] <LuckySMack> im on a fresh install or raring on my laptop, and i have no battery icon in my unity panel. ive tried a few things to try and get it to show but nothing works. changing the power settings does nothing.
[21:55] <chiluk> urgodfather, have you run apt-get upgrade yet?
[21:55] <urgodfather> chiluk: yes, im fully up to date
[21:55] <chiluk> urgodfather, nuts.
[21:55] <chiluk> urgodfather, one sec.
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  askubuntu has some better answers if you sort by 'votes
[21:56] <Dr_Willis>  Roy_Newbie_13-04  http://askubuntu.com/search?tab=votes&q=create%20launcher
[21:56] <Carter2> anyone have any insight on what went wrong with my upgrade?
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> Carter2:  what does lsb_release -a say about your system?
[21:57] <Carter2> hmm, says 13.04
[21:57] <khert> hi all
[21:57] <Dr_Willis> that points to the update-tool being a bit confused..
[21:58] <khert> i have fedora installed and want to dual boot ubuntu. Can i install it directly from the ISO or do i have to burn it to CD first?
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> sounds to me like you are on 13.04 , and the update tool message checks like once a week.. and hassent rechecked
[21:59] <chiluk> urgodfather, check for a firmware update to your router before going any further.
[21:59] <Carter2> ahh, that's re-assuring. Is there a way to force a check?
[21:59] <chiluk> urgodfather, you should be working by now.
[21:59] <Carter2> or remove the update tool even
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> khert:   you can set up grub2 to boot an ISO file if you wanted to. may be easier to just make a bootable USB flash drive however.
[21:59] <urgodfather> chiluk: router is ok... we keep it up to date.
[21:59] <urgodfather> chiluk: bluetooth works fine, just cant connect to wifi
[22:00] <chiluk> urgodfather, can you list any access points?
[22:00] <khert> Dr_Willis, cool, i'll try that
[22:01] <urgodfather> chiluk: yes, i can see all the networks around me that should be there.. and even a few more, just cant connect. just times out and prompts for pw again
[22:01] <chiluk> urgodfather, alright do yourself a favor and check to see if you can connect to any other access point.
[22:01] <Akuma> hello, how can I turn off the dhcp server at startup?
[22:01] <urgodfather> chiluk: tried that lol
[22:02] <urgodfather> chiluk: got it!!!
[22:02] <uroyanme> How do I update java in Ubuntu? thanks
[22:02] <chiluk> urgodfather, because frankly I'm guessing you either have an incompatible router, you are typing the password wrong, or the security settings on your router are somehow not compatible/not new enough to work.
[22:02] <bekks> !java | uroyanme
[22:02] <Dr_Willis> uroyanme:  depends on how you installed java and what one you are using
[22:02] <urgodfather> chiluk: i remember when i purchased the card for myself, i paired bluetooth and then all of a sudden it worked.
[22:03] <urgodfather> chiluk: its connected now :D
[22:03] <chiluk> urgodfather, sounds like a bios/firmware issue with that particular laptop.
[22:03] <chiluk> urgodfather, you shall be ignored henceforth... there really needs to be some kind of karma system in place on this channel... and why don't we have any admins?
[22:04] <urgodfather> chiluk: nah, different laptop, same type of card.
[22:04] <urgodfather> chiluk: ignored? karma?
[22:05] <chiluk> urgodfather, alright whatever man glad you could finally figure it out... I still bet it has something to do with your bios not being 100% compatible with it.
[22:05] <chiluk> urgodfather, also you shouldn't have to use that downloaded firmware...
[22:06] <urgodfather> chiluk: thank you for your patience and help. im gonna do a bios update to cover that too.
[22:06] <urgodfather> chiluk: i shouldnt?
[22:06] <chiluk> urgodfather, it shouldn't be necessary,
[22:06] <chiluk> but you are welcome to test and prove me wrong.
[22:06] <p014k> So I went into the root command line in recovery and tried 'sudo usermod -aG sudo p014k' but it says it cannot lock to /etc/passwd. I then tried echo 'p014k ALL=(ALL) ALL' >> /etc/sudoers' and it said 'read-only filesystem'
[22:06] <p014k> Jordan_U:
[22:06] <urgodfather> chiluk: i dont know if its even being used. all i did is copy it into the firmware folder
[22:06] <chiluk> there should already be firmware for it in /lib/firmware
[22:07] <urgodfather> chiluk: the one i used was specific to that card, from kernel.org
[22:07] <chiluk> urgodfather, ubuntu already ships with firmware for that card.
[22:08] <urgodfather> chiluk: so all i should do is just remove it from the firmware folder?\
[22:08] <chiluk> urgodfather, you might consider reverting by moving out of the way the firmware you just placed in and running apt-get install --reinstall linux-firmware.
[22:09] <chiluk> then rebooting , and checking to see if it still works.
[22:09] <chiluk> urgodfather, I say that because you want to know if updates to linux-firmware are going to break your wifi driver.
[22:09] <chiluk> urgodfather, make sense?
[22:10] <chiluk> urgodfather you have to reboot after replacing firmware fyi..
[22:11] <chiluk> urgodfather, basically you don't want your customer coming back in a month telling you his wifi stopped working after he did an update.
[22:11] <Sniperm4n> anyone have any input? =/
[22:12] <chiluk> Sniperm4n, you might have better luck by just asking your question instead of asking if it's ok to ask.
[22:12] <Learningg> need help http://pastebin.com/B1XGfiRZ
[22:13] <th0r> Learningg, you might try #python or #bash
[22:13] <urgodfather> chiluk: good point. ok so remove that ucode then apt-get install --reinstall linux-firmware
[22:13] <mdfe> Learningg, try #python and paste your code
[22:13] <chiluk> urgodfather, or just move it to your home directory temporarilly.
[22:14] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> i copied a .desktop and modify it, but i cant fint it in dash to work with
[22:14] <otak_> p014k: sorry if this has been mentioned before but normally visudo is used to alter /etc/sudoers and also the root device is mounted read-only in recovery mode so you'd need to remount it
[22:14] <urgodfather> chiluk: thats where the original is
[22:15] <chiluk> urgodfather, oh then just move the original back..
[22:15] <LuckySMack> anyone in here familiar with a bug in raring where the battery icon does not show up on a laptop?
[22:15] <chiluk> LuckySMack, no.
[22:16] <urgodfather> chiluk: whats the command to delete it?
[22:16] <LuckySMack> hrmm. i have tried a handful of things but i cannot get my battery icon to show.
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  put it in --> ~/.local/share/applications/      see     http://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity-by-hand
[22:17] <chiluk> urgodfather just run the apt-get install --reinstall linux-firmware it will put it back to defaults.
[22:18] <urgodfather> chiluk: ok
[22:18] <chiluk> urgodfather, and seriously man... haven't I helped enough... http://lmgtfy.com/?q=remove+file+linux
[22:18] <chiluk> urgodfather, ;)
[22:19] <urgodfather> chiluk: interesting link
[22:20] <Sniperm4n> Does anyone have knowledge of the failover peer capability in ISC-DHCP-SERVER v3.0?
[22:20] <urgodfather> chiluk: id send ya a beer if i could
[22:21] <urgodfather> chiluk: btw after reboot, does the same thing as before... it connected just that one time.
[22:21] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> ok i found it in the dash, it had no label, i worked, but it open 2 terminals, one was blank, smaller black one did the work then automaticly closed
[22:22] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> i want it to stay open ehwn its done
[22:23] <Learningg> need help: http://pastebin.com/efy8FSSx
[22:23] <Jordan_U> Roy_Newbie_13-04: Then it's already creating a terminal window for you. Just have it run your script without the "xterm -e ...".
[22:24] <Learningg> any1?
[22:25] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> in the .desktop file should i set terminal true, default was false
[22:25] <Jordan_U> Roy_Newbie_13-04: And if the terminal it automatically creates goes away at the end of your script as well, then just add a "read" at the end of the script (to have it not exit until the user presses enter), or a "sleep 99999" to have it not exit until the user presses ctrl+c / closes the window / otherwise kills the script.
[22:26] <Jordan_U> Roy_Newbie_13-04: Setting it to true will work, just make sure that if you do that you're not also manually creating a terminal window (with xterm -e).
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> Roy_Newbie_13-04:  make your script do a 'read foo' at the end..
[22:30] <OerHeks> Learningg, you might want to try  the #python channel here on #freenode too
[22:31] <th0r> OerHeks, I tried that already...he isn't llistening
[22:31] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> what is the icon for the terminal .desktop
[22:33] <mojtaba> Hi, does anybody know any pdf viewer which has highlighting ability?
[22:33] <chiluk> urgodfather, so it continues to work afterwards though right?
[22:33] <mojtaba> I have tried Xournal, but it is not the one I am interested
[22:33] <chiluk> urgodfather, you just have to connect to bluetooth first..
[22:33] <mojtaba> I want something like the one in MAC OS X
[22:35] <mojtaba> hello?
[22:35] <mojtaba> anyone?
[22:36] <Learningg> yes
[22:36] <AcidUk> hi All
[22:36] <chiluk> mojtaba, I think the one in chrome does... never used os x
[22:37] <chiluk> urgodfather, if you are still having issues you need to start googling for solutions to 6235 + 13.04
[22:37] <misterx> hi there
[22:37] <misterx> is it possible to change the *buntu distribution without a re-install?
[22:39] <misterx> i have a computer with an ancient ubuntu (10.* i think) and want to change to an up-to-day xubuntu
[22:39] <Ben64> misterx: you can go between ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, and ubuntu-gnome very easily
[22:39] <Ben64> misterx: 10.what ?
[22:40] <misterx> Ben64: lucid
[22:40] <Ben64> ok, thats 10.04 so you could upgrade straight to 12.04
[22:41] <misterx> Ben64: yeah, but i want to upgrade from ubuntu 10.4 to Xubuntu 12.04
[22:41] <chiluk> urgodfather, you might also consider a post on ubuntuforums..
[22:41] <Ben64> misterx: then install xubuntu-desktop after you get to 12.04
[22:42] <misterx> Ben64: does that also change the repositories in sources.list ?
[22:43] <Ben64> well upgrading them changes the repos to 12.04 ones
[22:43] <th0r> misterx, xubuntu and ubuntu use the same repos
[22:45] <misterx> th0r: is there any package-list so that i can set up a "vanilla" xubuntu without a complete re-install? ;)
[22:45] <th0r> misterx, no, if you really want a clean xubuntu install you will have to start from scratch
[22:46] <th0r> misterx, but to be honest, I never upgrade...always install from scratch. If you have a separate partition for /home a fresh install is fairly easy
[22:46] <urgodfather> chiluk: i always google first, also, i noticed that the linux-generic, linux-headers-generic, and linux-image-generic are not being updated... could that be the problem?
[22:46] <misterx> th0r: same here…
[22:46] <chiluk> how did you notice this?
[22:47] <misterx> just too lazy to go through the whole installation-process
[22:47] <th0r> misterx, and I use xubuntu myself, btw
[22:48] <misterx> working at a friend's. installed her lucid when it was brand-new but the hardware's too old for unity
[22:48] <misterx> so i have to change
[22:48] <misterx> and since she didn't use the computer at all, i could easily do an installation from-scratch
[22:48] <misterx> …but not via ssh ;)
[22:49] <th0r> misterx, I have used xfce for ages, even on new systems. I would rather reserve the system resources for real work than a pretty interface
[22:49] <nyRednek> ok, how do i migrate a non-encrypted home dir to an encrypted one?
[22:49] <chiluk> urgodfather, that could be a problem...
[22:49] <misterx> th0r: using xfce since the stopped working on gnome2
[22:49] <urgodfather> chiluk: it's a clean install, why wouldn't those update?
[22:50] <misterx> loved it, ever since
[22:50] <misterx> have to admit that lxde/lubuntu is also very nice ;)
[22:50] <chiluk> urgodfather, they wouldn't update if they are at the latest version.. urgodfather what does uname -a print out for you now.
[22:51] <th0r> misterx, I have lxde installed and have played with it. But I have a theme (23oz glass) that is old as the hills, came from E16, and I would really miss it <smile>
[22:51] <urgodfather> chiluk: i manually told it to upgrade those b/c they were in the "not upgraded" category
[22:52] <chiluk> urgodfather, um ok... must have been something you did.
[22:53] <chiluk> urgodfather, what are you using to do the upgrade? ubuntu software center? upgrade manager?
[22:53] <th0r> misterx, http://imgur.com/evAkstX
[22:54] <urgodfather> chiluk: it finished, did a uname -a and it says that its still on 3.8.0-19, but when it did the upgrade (through terminal) it said 3.8.0-21
[22:54] <chiluk> urgodfather don't forget to reboot.
[22:54] <chiluk> th0r are you keeping tabs on me?
[22:54] <urgodfather> chiluk: just did it ;)
[22:54] <th0r> chiluk, no, should I?
[22:54] <chiluk> th0r, maybe you should read backscroll and realize that I've spent almost 5 hours with this guy this afternoon
[22:55] <urgodfather> chiluk: after reboot it says -21 like it should
[22:56] <chiluk> yeah kernel upgrades are one of the few things that requires reboots
[22:56] <chiluk> th0r have anything to add to this technical discussion ?
[22:57] <urgodfather> chiluk: i hate that it only connected that one time
[22:57] <th0r> chiluk, haven't really kept up with it. Been in and out all day, though I did leave the laptop running
[22:57] <chiluk> urgodfather, yeah that's not right..... try using your wifi on off fn-key combo to see if you can get it on ..
[22:58] <chiluk> urgodfather, afaik bios sometimes gets in the way by selectively turning off the wifi card when you think it's on...
[22:59] <th0r> chiluk, I tend not to get into deep techie discussions any longer. I have lived and sailed on my sailboat for 12 years now, frustrations quickly go over the side...would hate to lose my computer
[22:59] <chiluk> th0r++ hilarious...
[23:00] <chiluk> th0r are you posting that to reddit?
[23:00] <Sniperm4n> does anyone here have DHCP failover knowledge? trying to figure out something that relates to the dhcpd.leases file
[23:01] <th0r> chiluk, never gave it any thought to be honest
[23:02] <urgodfather> chiluk: im gonna call it a night. thanks again for your help. im still gonna try that bios update (need to do through windows)
[23:02] <chiluk> urgodfather, you haven't done that yet... shame on you... that was like 4 hours ago.
[23:02] <chiluk> urgodfather, good luck...
[23:03] <chiluk> urgodfather, so I take it this wireless card did not ship with the laptop right?
[23:03] <urgodfather> chiluk: fn key works fine. yeah i know.. havent been on the winblows side plus ive been fixing like 6 other pc's (im a repair tech)
[23:04] <chiluk> urgodfather, so did it ship with the machine or is it aftermarket?
[23:04] <urgodfather> chiluk: no it came with a 6150 that the customer was having problems with on both sides
[23:05] <urgodfather> chiluk: so, we're replacing it with an ubuntu certified wifi card
[23:05] <chiluk> urgodfather, that's what I thought... you might have to add some acpi table entry stuff for grub to amke it play nice.
[23:05] <chiluk> urgodfather, I'm 90% certain this is a bios problem at this point...
[23:05] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> how can i make an icon do this, was kind of working now im just lost
[23:05] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> xterm -e encfs ~/.encrypted ~/Private
[23:06] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> working on a different one now
[23:06] <chiluk> urgodfather, night man. wifey just got home.
[23:06] <urgodfather> chiluk: well, if you want, ill be on tomorrow with a status update
[23:06] <chiluk> urgodfather, let me know... although I probably won't be around most of the weekend... still drop me a private message
[23:08] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> would it matter if root or roy ownership of the .desktop
[23:08] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> has*
[23:08] <troko> hello
[23:08] <baal> hello
[23:11] <Guest88887> anyone used qtfm?
[23:12] <goddard> has anyone used qtfm or marlin?
[23:14] <troko> proby
[23:14] <fbdystang> Hi, working with iptables. Trying to do port redirects on a bridged network for virtualbox guests. The only command I can find is for "-nat" networked modes. Please advise. Can this even be done?
[23:15] <satonio> hola, tengo un ubuntu server al que solo puedo acceder por ssh. quiero redimensionar dos particiones (una hacerla mas pequeña y otra más grande). puedo acceder a el sin que ninguna de las particiones involucradas este montada.. alguna idea?
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> !es
[23:16] <satonio> ouch sorry
[23:17] <satonio> i have a ubuntu server and i have only access through ssh. i want to resize two partitions (enlarge one and shrink another). i can access it without neither partitions mounted
[23:17] <satonio> any idea?
[23:17] <th0r> satonio, is there any data on the partitions or are they empty?
[23:18] <satonio> it's not empty
[23:18] <satonio> there isn't any valuable data but it will take time to recover if something fails
[23:18] <satonio> from backup
[23:19] <th0r> satonio, if they aren't empty I don't think fdisk will work...I don't think it will preserve the data.
[23:19] <th0r> satonio, is X installed on the server?
[23:21] <fbdystang> Hi, working with iptables. Trying to do port redirects on a bridged network for virtualbox guests. The only command I can find is for "-nat" networked modes. Please advise. Can this even be done?
[23:22] <troko> fbdystang
[23:23] <proby> fbdystang, #networking
[23:23] <proby> fbdystang, ##networking
[23:23] <satonio> th0r, no it isn't
[23:24] <th0r> satonio, that leaves out X-forwarding and gparted <smile>. I can think of no other options.
[23:24] <satonio> what if i install a x server and then use x-forwarding and then i remove the x-server?
[23:25] <satonio> do you think it will cause problems in the future?
[23:25] <fbdystang> Meaning I should post it in the #networking forum?
[23:26] <th0r> satonio, first, I am not sure gparted would be able to preserve the data, you would have to verify that with maybe someone else here. There is no guarantee that you could even get X running remotely....it isn't the easiest thing to do <smile>
[23:27] <satonio> another idea is to forget about resizing and create a symlink to the other filesystem and place the data in the big partition, did you ever see a huge mysql database in the home partition?
[23:29] <th0r> satonio, haven't worked much with mysql...but am amazed that the present day databases are even usable. I know how much trouble I had keeping a db of 200-300M intact in the old days <smile>
[23:31] <mojtaba> Hi, I have downloaded this file but I do not know how can I install it?! AdbeRdr9.5.5-1_i486linux_enu.bin
[23:31] <mojtaba> Does anybody know what should I do?
[23:31] <clcto> mojtaba: why not use the repositories
[23:32] <clcto> mojtaba: and you have to make it executable (chmod +x) and then run it ./AdbeRdr...
[23:32] <mojtaba> clcto: I want a pdf viewer which can highlight a pdf
[23:32] <mojtaba> I tried xournal, but I did not like it.
[23:33] <clcto> mojtaba: what about the one built into FF
[23:33] <mojtaba> clcto: what is that? (I am newbie. :-P)
[23:33] <clcto> firefox
[23:34] <mojtaba> clcto: Can I highlight and annotate with it?
[23:34] <mojtaba> how can I open the PDF with it?
[23:34] <clcto> mojtaba: menu>open file
[23:34] <clcto> mojtaba: slash ctrl-o
[23:35] <mojtaba> clcto: It gives warning. This pdf document might not display correctly
[23:35] <mojtaba> Open with different viewer!
[23:35] <clcto> mojtaba: hmm well i told you how to run that file
[23:36] <mojtaba> clcto: I can run it, but I want to be able to highlight and annotate it.
[23:36] <clcto> mojtaba: the adberdr file i mean
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, I have used ocular
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> okular
[23:37] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: I will check it
[23:37] <clcto> mojtaba: http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/adobe-reader-for-ubuntu.html
[23:37] <mojtaba> clcto: Thanks
[23:37] <sector_> Hallo
[23:39] <ssokolow> My brother's computer is on 12.04 LTS but a recent update broke his nVidia proprietary drivers and now jockey-gtk errors out when I try to reinstall them. The one time I got a meaningful error out of it, it seemed to be saying "can't install nvidia-settings for 310 (experimental) because files in it conflict with the already-installed nvidia-settings for 304 (experimental)" but reinstalling 304 doesn't work either.
[23:39] <mojtaba> wilee-nilee: okular does not have highlighting !
[23:39] <clcto> mojtaba: and its kde, meh
[23:40] <mojtaba> clcto: I am checking your link.
[23:40] <mojtaba> thanks
[23:40] <th0r> clcto, now now, we should be charitable to the performance challenged
[23:41] <clcto> th0r: what?
[23:41] <th0r> clcto, kde.....
[23:41] <xyz_cursor> hi guys.. I already checked google from bottom to top without finding anything to help me... my problem is with WebcamStudio.. it crashes when loading... this is the output: http://pastebin.com/651TXN5s
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> mojtaba, It does, I don't use kde, however found okular to be usable.
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdegraphics/okular/okular.pdf
[23:42] <mojtaba> th0r: What do you mean by that to clcto?
[23:42] <clcto> mojtaba: kde is bad is what he means
[23:42] <th0r> mojtaba, it was a small joke...that apparently only I got <smile>
[23:43] <clcto> lol
[23:43] <mojtaba> th0r: lol
[23:43] <xyz_cursor> can someone take a look at this output to see what is going on? http://pastebin.com/651TXN5s
[23:43] <clcto> dont use pastebin
[23:43] <xyz_cursor> why?
[23:43] <clcto> .com
[23:44] <xyz_cursor> what do you want me to use then?
[23:44] <clcto> ads suck
[23:44] <clcto> gist.github.com is one :)
[23:44] <subman> I have many different desktop environments installed and I don't seem to be able to see them all at my login screen.  There doesn't seem to be a way to scroll through them all.  Is there an alternative that will?
[23:44] <neytiri> hi ima getting a dpkg error when i try to install some software
[23:44] <OerHeks> paste.ubuntu.com is nice
[23:45] <clcto> subman: need to add it to gdm i believe
[23:45] <subman> clcto, I don't know what that means
[23:45] <xyz_cursor> clakes_, there u go https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5602650
[23:46] <computa_mike> xyz_cursor: The issue reported is that jnidispatch can't be found in the path.
[23:46] <clcto> subman: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=13466
[23:46] <xyz_cursor> computa_mike, but how can I fix it?
[23:46] <computa_mike> xyz_cursor: I founf this on google : http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/opensuse/12.3/x86_64/libjnidispatch-3.4.0-4.1.1.x86_64.html
[23:46] <computa_mike> xyz_cursor: are you on 32 or 64 bit?
[23:46] <subman> clcto, No, that is not the problem.  They are all listed.  There are too many and they run off the screen.  You cannot scroll them.
[23:47] <xyz_cursor> 32 bit
[23:47] <xyz_cursor> computa_mike, 32
[23:47] <clcto> subman: ah, dk then
[23:48] <harris> who knows what a makey makey is
[23:48] <computa_mike> xyz_cursor: I'll have a look around and see where that file could / should be
[23:48] <xyz_cursor> ok
[23:48] <xyz_cursor> :)
[23:48] <xyz_cursor> thank you
[23:48] <th0r> subman, you can install as many display managers as you like (kdm, gdm, lightdm, etc) and just change /etc/X11/default-display-manager (unless the church of ubuntu has changed that)
[23:50] <OerHeks> harris is it a ubuntu program or what?
[23:50] <thecodeischaos> seems like window managers are basically like themes/skins.... but change physics instead of colors
[23:51] <somsip> OerHeks: seems to be an arduino-type thingy
[23:52] <subman> thanks th0r
[23:53] <computa_mike> xyz_cursor: how did you install webcam studio?
[23:54] <xyz_cursor> it comes in a tar file... you decompress it and then do a java -jar webcamstudio.jar
[23:54] <computa_mike> xyz_cursor: so - where did you get it from?
[23:54] <xyz_cursor> from the official website :(
[23:54] <xyz_cursor> let me paste the address
[23:55] <computa_mike> http://code.google.com/p/webcamstudio/ ??
[23:55] <xyz_cursor> https://code.google.com/p/webcamstudio/downloads/list
[23:55] <xyz_cursor> yeah computa_mike
[23:56] <computa_mike> xyz_cursor: I'l just trying the deb file - but I'm not sure I'll be able to run it - i don't have a webcam
[23:56] <xyz_cursor> I see :( probably it will run
[23:56] <xyz_cursor> but the deb is the old pckg
[23:59] <computa_mike> xyz_cursor: Hi - I just installed the deb file here, and launched it - I get a start menu
[23:59] <ohnonotagain> Whenever I attempt to mount my partition, I get an error saying *unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'* .  If I mount it with *-t ext4* it works.  I think I accidentally changed the header to Linux LVM with sfdisk, but even after setting it back to 83 from 8e, I get this error.  Any help/suggestions?
[23:59] <xyz_cursor> computa_mike, yeah I can get it too.. that is the one I used previously... but the 0.61 version is not working somehow
[23:59] <computa_mike> but the 0.61 is an alpha?