[00:40] <len-1311> install finished reboot
[00:42] <DarkEra> zequence, i'm going to use the partition i have for Ubuntu Gnome and try to install it on that one
[00:43] <DarkEra> just wondering if the dd works to write it to a usb stick
[00:51] <zequence> I have a google alerts on "Ubuntu Studio". It's funny that I get things like the amd64 PPA build of pulseaudio on one of my repos
[00:51] <zequence> Not many hits per day usually. 1-5 or so
[00:58] <DarkEra> gonna work on installing it so i'll be offline and chat you tomorrow again, getting late over here too
[00:58] <len-1310> bye
[00:58] <DarkEra> bye :)
[01:00] <zequence> len-1310: Do you still have a quantal install somewhere?
[01:01] <len-1310> Ya... nb is on it.
[01:01] <len-1310> But I can't mess with it too much as it has too much personal stuff on it
[01:01] <zequence> len-1310: I got pulseaudio built with the patch if you want to try it, but the version is not going to be the same as the final release of the package
[01:02] <zequence> ppa:zequence/ubuntustudio-sru-testing
[01:02] <zequence> I'm going to test it anyway later, so no need
[01:02] <len-1310> Oh wait... NB is r pulse 2*
[01:02] <zequence> 2.1
[01:03] <len-1310> I'll have to install it here... but not tonight :)
[01:03] <zequence> but, the upload (debian version) will not bet he same
[01:03] <zequence> if you want to switch to the main version, you'll need to revert back
[01:03] <len-1310> No, I mean I will have to install Q here.
[01:04] <zequence> ok
[01:05] <zequence> seems to work nicely
[01:06] <zequence> Too bad the fixes come into Ubuntu so late, after they appear upstream, but at least it'll happen now
[01:06] <len-1310> Ya, 12.04 was the main one though.
[01:07] <zequence> Yeah, there's a good chance people will want to keep using it even after 14.04 is out.
[01:20] <zequence> I put up our contact@ubuntustudio.org email to our website yesterday. Alread today I had someone sending a support question. That was not my plan, so I guess I should move the adress somehwere and clarify what it is good for
[02:03] <denisc_> Hi, I'm interested in getting involved with documentation and/or development of ubuntustudio. I've been using linux since the late 1990s, and music apps for most of that time. I code a bit - mainly android stuff though - but suspect I'd be most helpful with documentation. I teach music at an Australian university (macquarie) and am involved in teaching studio production amongst other things. Have joined the devel list so hope to hear if I can 
[02:03] <denisc_> be of use.
[02:05] <zequence> denisc_: You're most welcome to join us
[02:06] <denisc_> Great! maybe I should lurk for a bit and stick my hand up if anything crops up that I might be able to help with?
[02:07] <zequence> denisc_: Sure, you are welcome to do that. But, if you like, I can already point you in some directions. The hard part in the beginnins is probably just to get an overview
[02:08] <zequence> And that takes a bit of time - no hurry
[02:08] <zequence> Most of the tasks we do require little or no knowledge of code, even if some things do require some reading of wiki pages, etc
[02:08] <zequence> documentation is easy in the way that you don't need to install anything. you just write stuff
[02:09] <denisc_> Ok - point me! I've used ubuntustudio on and off for a few years as well as 64studio so have a decent grasp of a subcollection of audio stuff
[02:09] <zequence> But, as soon as you want to do anything that has to do with the OS itself, like testing, researching and selecting applications, etc, then you'll need to make an install specifically for that
[02:10] <zequence> denisc_: I'm currently documenting everything we do here in the wiki we have https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio
[02:10] <zequence> That is used for development
[02:11] <zequence> The header is a little misleading, cause if you click the blue box saying "User Help", you actually end up in another wiki
[02:11] <zequence> which is 
[02:11] <zequence> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio
[02:11] <zequence> used for user help documentation
[02:11] <zequence> Anyway, I've tried to make it easy to find anything and everything from there
[02:11] <zequence> There's no user guide at all yet
[02:12] <zequence> Just a few HowTos
[02:12] <zequence> as for development documentation, it's getting there
[02:13] <zequence> denisc_: If you look at the navigation panel for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio, you see "User", "Testing", "workflows", etc
[02:13] <zequence> Those are some defined areas of development
[02:14] <denisc_> Looking the user guide now - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/UserGuide/Audio - and could think of some simple workflow examples that would be relatively easy to get moving?
[02:14] <zequence> denisc_: You're free to start adding stuff. The structure there is very sketchy
[02:15] <zequence> I'd focus on the core stuff initially
[02:15] <zequence> denisc_: Also, I'm setting up a youtube channel
[02:15] <zequence> Would be nice to put up some videos with simple guides on doing stuff. Just a screencast with some helping text
[02:17] <zequence> denisc_: Anyway, make yourself at home. I'm here most days - I'm the project lead, btw
[02:17] <zequence> And, some other people lurk here too
[02:17] <zequence> I try to make it possible for people to work independently as much as possible
[02:17] <zequence> But, questions are always welcome
[02:18] <denisc_> ok - I could try that - would be useful for work too. So would something on qjackctl, starting jack, starting ardour, doing a basic recording, then exporting it be useful or would that be duplicating ardour doc?
[02:18] <zequence> denisc_: I think what I would do is first look at what docs already exist, then think about what would be worth doing on our help sections (which then could be imported to our main site). 
[02:19] <zequence> I would add links to existing manuals and documentation 
[02:19] <zequence> I'd like for Ubuntu Studio to be a centre for information, and we don't need to be the people producing it
[02:20] <zequence> Handling jack is absolutely worth writing about
[02:20] <denisc_> Ok - will do! Thanks for the pointers. I'll go and look at it all in more detail. The centre of info thing makes a lot of sense.
[02:20] <zequence> We're just recently becoming more active in the social medias and writing more often on our main site
[02:21] <zequence> And that's something I'd like for us to do more in the future too
[02:21] <zequence> Spread news about Linux multimedia. Make it easy for people to find information
[02:22] <zequence> That's something that you're welcome to help with too
[02:22] <zequence> But, no hurry with anything. Takes a bit of time to get into it
[02:23] <zequence> denisc_: See you around then. Getting a bit late over here :)
[02:24] <denisc_> No worries - and thanks.  great to get a sense of what to do. catch you later
[02:40] <len-1310> smartboyhw, did a test install of the daily. looks good, but there are of course not many changes either.
[02:40] <len-1310> Hoping to see ardour 3 soon as well as xfce 4.12
[02:41] <len-1310> The install ubuntustudio menu selection seems to have ended up where I wanted it.
[02:41] <len-1310> (I couldn't tell before because it only shows up in a live session)
[02:45] <smartboyhw> len-1310: Good. zequence still has to fix the Ardour 3 packaging, and let's hope the Xubuntu developers can package it in time.
[02:46] <len-1310> zequence, re: Tracktion. http://www.tracktion.com/linux ... I notice they are sporting a Ubuntu COF (vanilla) but their package is not available either with synaptic or USC. It seems it has to be downloaded from their site after you "login"
[02:46] <len-1310> xfce4.12 is supposed to show up before alpha 2
[02:47] <len-1310> smartboyhw, ^^^
[02:48] <smartboyhw> len-1310: Yep
[04:42] <smartboyhw> zequence: Anything related to us on vUDS discussions?
[07:01] <zequence> smartboyhw: Most of the community related things, I believe, but in order for us to participate well, we need people who have time to do so'
[07:01] <zequence> I think testing is an important subject
[07:01] <zequence> I didn't follow much of the sessions actively this time
[08:00] <zequence> Seems like my problems with Gnome yesterday had less to do with VirtualBox and more with the updated set of Gnome related libs/apps
[08:03] <zequence> Not runnable atm
[08:27] <smartboyhw> zequence: Ubuntu seems really changing to Chromium…
[09:00] <zequence> not me :)
[09:03] <zequence> Chromium, or Chrome OS, with a Google account, for better or worse, is Big Brother sees you. Google really has a historic opportunity for doing research based on user data, and I can't think of a reason why they wouldn't
[09:03] <zequence> I like to joke that they know more than CIA
[09:04] <zequence> It's really the same thing if you're on any browser while using Google services
[09:05] <zequence> I'm a little reluctant, all though quite passively right now
[09:06] <smartboyhw> zequence: Heh
[09:06] <zequence> If Google services were run by the government, what would people think then?
[09:06] <smartboyhw> zequence: 1984…
[09:06] <zequence> Exactly
[09:07] <zequence> All though, in a "Don't be evil" kind of way
[09:12] <smartboyhw> zequence: I think you should go to work for Apple, Inc.
[09:13] <zequence> I'm not evil enough to want to do that..
[09:13] <smartboyhw> zequence: LOL
[12:34] <ttoine> zequence, ping
[13:04] <zequence> ttoine: pong
[13:04] <DarkEra> draw
[13:05] <zequence> DarkEra: I did an upgrade of Gnome Ubuntu to 13.10 today, and it wasn't usable
[13:05] <zequence> Basically the same as on VirtualBox
[13:06] <DarkEra> so it wasn't a VB problem
[13:06] <DarkEra> i didn't install it yet on the other partition so i hold off then
[13:07] <zequence> Yes, better not try it until it's more stable
[13:07] <DarkEra> ok
[13:08] <DarkEra> too bad, i was excited about it and get into business. :)
[13:08] <zequence> I was stuck with Unity :P
[13:09] <DarkEra> lol
[13:09] <DarkEra> unity shouldn't be a dependencie of Gnome
[13:10] <zequence> Could be the Gnome guys could need some help
[13:10] <zequence> But, so do we
[13:11] <DarkEra> a lot of projects need more help, that's a fact. Only it's too bad that not much people jump on board
[13:27] <zequence> ttoine: I'll be gone for maybe one hour. You can PM if you want. I'll get back to you
[13:45] <zequence> Actually, seems like I'll be gone for the rest of the afternoon/evening
[13:46] <zequence> Great weather today :P
[13:46] <zequence> See you guys tomorrow
[13:55] <DarkEra> great weather he says.... it's raining! I guess you're lucky zequence 
[15:03] <madeinkobaia> Hi all : )
[15:03] <smartboyhw> madeinkobaia: Hey
[15:03] <smartboyhw> ttoine: You want madeinkobaia?
[15:04] <madeinkobaia> Hi smartboyhw : )
[15:04] <ttoine> madeinkobaia, hi
[15:04] <ttoine> smartboyhw, thanks ;-)
[15:05] <ttoine> madeinkobaia, would you have some artwork, even basic, I can use ?
[15:05] <ttoine> if you provide me with the svg, I can do the export at the good dpi
[15:07] <madeinkobaia> Hi ttoine. We have just talked about the project with zequence. I send you a copy of the mail. 
[15:07] <ttoine> ok
[15:14] <madeinkobaia> ttoine : Send on "ttoine.net".
[15:15] <ttoine> thanks
[15:24] <madeinkobaia> ttoine, zequence, ... : Next we are all agree on the concept, the complete design layout will be available for print 2 days after. Necessary time for "fine stunning". 
[15:25] <madeinkobaia> ttoine : Witch program do you want to use for export the .svg ?
[15:25] <ttoine> madeinkobaia, zequence look at your email box
[15:26] <ttoine> madeinkobaia, inkscape. spreadshirt is asking for rgb jpg or png
[15:30] <madeinkobaia> ttoine : Thats good, Inkscape is the native program I use for make the .svg. I suppose they do the post-treatment but I will anyway give you also a clean .png version.
[15:30] <ttoine> ok. this is more a problem of dimension
[15:31] <ttoine> 300 or 600 dpi are not the same for 5cm than for 20cm
[15:52] <madeinkobaia> ttoine : Mail answer send. Otherwise no problems about the .dpi or something we will work together on the integration.