[01:22] <kotux> Hello, can somebody on Ubuntu 13.10 confirm this bug?
[01:22] <kotux> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1181442
[01:22] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1181442 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center reads 'Ubuntu 13.04' on Saucy" [Undecided,New]
[01:23] <infinity> kotux: Yeah, the image needs updating.
[01:23] <kotux> infinity, so that string is an image?
[01:24] <infinity> kotux: It's not a string at all, no.
[01:24] <infinity> If it was, I would have fixed it. :P
[01:24] <kotux> well, for my untrained eyes, it looked like one.  :S
[01:25] <kotux> How difficult is it update images?
[01:25] <infinity> Probably not very, I'm just not sure who has the original working copy.
[01:25] <infinity> I was considering going MS-Paint style with a spray can over it, but I'm not sure people appreciate "fun" updates anymore.
[01:25] <infinity> We've all gotten too stuffy and professional. :(
[01:26] <kotux> haha, well, do you think the bug is a manageable task for a starter?
[01:26]  * kotux updated the bug report.
[01:27] <infinity> Probably not a bitesize bug, no.  Well, not in the "anyone can do it" sense.
[01:27] <infinity> Needs someone from the design team to dig up the original logo and make it go.
[01:28] <infinity> But I might do the spray can thing as incentive for the desktop team to do it right. :P
[01:30] <kotux> Interesting. For the report, should I say the ticket affects the design team?
[01:35] <infinity> kotux: I just went ahead and assigned it to the designer who updated the image for 13.04
[01:35] <kotux> Oh great, thanks!
[01:37] <ScottK> infinity: Surely gnome-control-center isn't failing to ship things in the preferred form for modification?
[01:37] <infinity> ScottK: Yeah, I'm going to follow up with Seb and Rosie about that too. :P
[01:38] <infinity> ScottK: (That said, there are hundreds of packages in the archive that ship PNGs instead of some sort of source file)
[01:38] <infinity> And, I could edit the PNG, I just prefer not to if there's a shinier master somewhere.
[01:38] <ScottK> Sure, but in theory Canonical should know better.
[01:38] <kotux> ScottK, yeah.
[01:39] <infinity> So should GNOME and KDE, but I bet they both fail on that front too.
[01:39] <ScottK> Possible.  I know for Oxygen icons all the scalable variants are shipped (and that is the preferred form for modification)
[01:39] <kotux> infinity, say I wanted to branch gnome-control-center for scrutiny.
[01:39] <kotux> https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center
[01:40] <infinity> pull-lp-source gnome-control-center or bzr co lp:ubuntu/gnome-control-center should get you similar results.
[01:40] <kotux> on Saucy (active development), there are two branches, both in development.  Which one should I pull?
[01:40] <infinity> The former being the authoritative source package, the latter being whatever the heck LP thinks is the packaging branch. :P
[01:41] <kotux> and sometimes, LP isn't so smart?
[01:41] <infinity> Oh, the saucy/saucy-proposed branches are probably identical.
[01:41] <infinity> Just the importer being silly.
[01:41] <infinity> Yeah, they're the same.
[01:42] <infinity> And they both match the archive source too.  So, whatever.
[01:42] <kotux> in time, which one should I choose?
[01:42] <kotux> when things get more complicated
[01:42] <infinity> ScottK: Anyhow, I'm not arguing that it's ideal, and I would prefer a non-lossy version of the image in the source package, but I also know it's common to not care about sources for images. :/
[01:43] <infinity> kotux: The archive is the only thing that's ever authoritative, however if you want to play well with others, follow the Vcs-Bzr field from the package's debian/control.
[01:43] <infinity> kotux: Which points to a place you've not looked yet. ;)
[01:44] <infinity> http://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-control-center/ubuntu
[01:45] <kotux> wow, three places!
[02:10] <jbicha> it would be much nicer if the version number there was dynamic text (like it is upstream) instead of as an image
[02:12] <infinity> That too.
[02:12] <jbicha> the version number listed is usually wrong half the release cycle and creates more work for backports
[02:14] <infinity> Given that it's in an Ubuntu font that ships on the system anyway, I imagine turning that into a GTK text box that populates with something that looks exactly the same wouldn't be too hard.
[02:14] <infinity> Patches welcome, etc. :)
[02:14] <infinity> For bonus point, you might even be able to get it to swap logos and text based on which *-desktop packages are installed, but that sounds a bit more ambitious.
[02:15] <infinity> (And probably not worth the effort)
[02:17] <jbicha> I guess Fedora also patches that spot but they don't include the version number https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695691
[02:17] <ubot2> jbicha: Error: Could not parse XML returned by Gnome: The read operation timed out (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695691&ctype=xml)
[02:21] <infinity> They do, actually.
[22:09] <phillw> bdmurray: as it is your bot, the patch for bug 1078820 is being installed into saucy for lubuntu.
[22:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1078820 in lubuntu-software-center (Ubuntu) "The lubuntu software centre is not showing any other software execpt the ones already installed on my computer." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1078820
[22:13] <phillw> It already fixes the issue in 13.04, so I guess there will be an SRU at some point :)
[22:25] <TheLordOfTime> phillw:  someone has to prep the SRU if I'm not mistaken