| MartijnVdS | ali1234: everyone uses network printers these days, right? ;) | 04:27 |
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| knightwise | mornin | 05:24 |
| dwatkins | MartijnVdS: my printer is only the netork thanks to a tiny little linux device ;) | 08:06 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 09:03 |
| dwatkins | hiya | 09:06 |
| brobostigon | morning dwatkins | 09:06 |
| dwatkins | I think today I will finally get to play some Half-Life 2 on Ubuntu :D | 09:07 |
| brobostigon | :) | 09:08 |
| Azelphur | Damn google dropping XMPP support, I am annoyed as hell now :@ | 10:42 |
| mungbean | really? | 10:42 |
| Azelphur | Use our protocol, it's interoperable and open they say, write all your code on their platform | 10:42 |
| Azelphur | and then nope, screw you and your stuff. | 10:42 |
| Azelphur | mungbean: yup | 10:43 |
| Azelphur | http://windowspbx.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/hangouts-wont-hangout-with-other.html | 10:43 |
| mungbean | when? | 10:43 |
| Azelphur | a few days ago | 10:43 |
| mungbean | pidgin still works | 10:43 |
| Azelphur | mungbean: read the article | 10:44 |
| Azelphur | or at least the "What does this mean technically today?" part | 10:45 |
| Azelphur | it bricks the entire system. | 10:45 |
| Azelphur | I have bots that sit on XMPP so now they can't talk to my phone at all :@ | 10:45 |
| shauno | yeah. it's not broke yet, but it will be. bah. | 11:03 |
| shauno | bit of a bummer. just letting people use gmail instead of trying to move them to jabber was so much easier. but now we leap back 10 years to having to advocate protocols again | 11:06 |
| Azelphur | :( | 11:07 |
| Azelphur | half my contact list I can't even talk to - this is crazy. | 11:08 |
| shauno | really? mine are still showing up as long as it's via gmail, rather than g+ | 11:08 |
| Azelphur | shauno: yea, but I can't talk using my tablet | 11:11 |
| shauno | surely that's app-specific? if you're using something that logs into hangouts instead of google-talk? | 11:13 |
| shauno | if they keep up like this, people might stop looking at me funny for hosting my own mail/jabber/calendar/etc | 11:17 |
| brobostigon | owncloud being one option. | 11:17 |
| shauno | yeah, I'm using that for the calendar at the moment | 11:18 |
| brobostigon | similerly here, contacts aswell. kinda. | 11:18 |
| shauno | it feels a bit overweight for this single task, but it works | 11:18 |
| brobostigon | fair point, | 11:18 |
| shauno | I didn't get on with it's file syncing so well though, so I'm back to dropbox. but for the calendar, it's working out better than watching google drop caldav so far | 11:20 |
| brobostigon | i think a walk into town is called for, my dad is monopolising the tv with the cricket. | 11:27 |
| Azelphur | shauno: yea, I'm thinking of bailing on the google XMPP stuff too, so frustrating. | 11:39 |
| Azelphur | after all the work I did to make nice things on that protocol, they do this -.- | 11:39 |
| shrik | I quite like this thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1ekh8b/nondeveloper_users_why_do_you_use_linux/ | 13:33 |
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| MartijnVdS | Laney: hm? | 16:40 |
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| MartijnVdS | so | 19:02 |
| MartijnVdS | does anyone know if there's anything to do between Colchester, Ipswich and Harwich? :) | 19:02 |
| brobostigon | go to the weatherspoons on clacton beach, and enjoy beer. | 19:03 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: beer is out, I'm driving :) | 19:03 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: oh dear, :( | 19:04 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: colchester does have a LUG. | 19:04 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: I have all of tomorrow to wait (for the boat back home) | 19:04 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: been driving to Land's End & back the past week | 19:04 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: ah. i have been around that area before, parents used to have a flat in clacton. | 19:05 |
| mungbean | colchester zoo | 19:05 |
| MartijnVdS | mungbean: ooh, zoos are fun :) | 19:05 |
| MartijnVdS | mungbean: animals love having their picture taken | 19:05 |
| * brobostigon pretends to be a lion, RAWR. | 19:06 | |
| * MartijnVdS took pictures of Nerina Pallot at Minack on Wednesday.. that was one amazing show | 19:06 | |
| MartijnVdS | also, the theatre is *WOW* | 19:06 |
| brobostigon | :) | 19:06 |
| MartijnVdS | Lots of pics from the coast (path) around there | 19:06 |
| brobostigon | :) | 19:07 |
| MartijnVdS | Oh and I went to Lulworth Cove/Stair Hole/Durdle Door (on a sunny day! the pictures are amazing!) | 19:07 |
| brobostigon | wicked. | 19:07 |
| MartijnVdS | yeah, the south coast is beautiful, I've found | 19:08 |
| brobostigon | :D | 19:09 |
| Myrtti | could always poke Gary but he's so busy nowadays he's rarely on IRC | 19:09 |
| mungbean | waited all week for an evening without baby and i'm too tired to do anything | 19:09 |
| MartijnVdS | mungbean: watch Eurovision | 19:09 |
| mungbean | i want to do stuff, but too zzzzzzzz | 19:10 |
| brobostigon | oh dear. | 19:10 |
| mungbean | my monring wil start at 5am prboably though | 19:11 |
| brobostigon | :( | 19:11 |
| MartijnVdS | wait a second.. there's "holland-on-sea"? | 19:11 |
| brobostigon | yes. | 19:11 |
| MartijnVdS | I must go there and take a picture of the sign :) | 19:11 |
| brobostigon | :) | 19:11 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: right next to clacton is memory serves. | 19:11 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: yeah, I was looking at gmaps | 19:12 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: :) | 19:13 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: one evening, i was caught tipsy on dad push bike, down that direction. | 19:14 |
| brobostigon | on my dads push bike. | 19:14 |
| brobostigon | when i once visited when they lived there. | 19:14 |
| MartijnVdS | haha :) | 19:15 |
| brobostigon | no joke, :) | 19:15 |
| mungbean | why the heck is hugin so tricky to use | 19:23 |
| MartijnVdS | because it's so powerful and hasn't had enough rounds of UX design | 19:24 |
| brobostigon | !info hugin | 19:24 |
| lubotu3 | hugin (source: hugin): panorama photo stitcher - GUI tools. In component universe, is optional. Version 2011.4.0+dfsg-5ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 1259 kB, installed size 4067 kB | 19:24 |
| mungbean | just clicking blindly in the hope of results | 19:26 |
| mungbean | fail | 19:27 |
| mungbean | win | 19:37 |
| mungbean | http://i.imgur.com/6TgTE8s.jpg | 19:37 |
| AlanBell | nice mungbean :) | 19:38 |
| mungbean | :) | 19:39 |
| mungbean | sometimes i take photos for later stitching but then forget and think they were just badly framed shots | 19:39 |
| mungbean | these ones are 4 yrs old | 19:39 |
| mungbean | i saw 3 next to each other and though...hmmm looks like i did that deliberately | 19:40 |
| funkyHat | mungbean: what did you use to do the stitching? | 19:42 |
| mungbean | hugin | 19:42 |
| mungbean | apt-got it on 12.04 | 19:42 |
| mungbean | i think | 19:42 |
| mungbean | this is an older effort pre-hugin of snowdonia | 19:43 |
| mungbean | http://i.imgur.com/u30dm6j.jpg | 19:43 |
| mungbean | 5 or 6 pics i think made that | 19:43 |
| mungbean | bah, i hate the safe places i choose to hide things in. just found a paint brush that i'd lost for 2 months cos it was too well secreted | 19:49 |
| mungbean | i hope this is what google glass will fix | 19:49 |
| AlanBell | cheaper to buy a new brush | 19:52 |
| mungbean | except i lose things all the time | 19:56 |
| mungbean | i lost PES for the wii for 2 yrs | 19:56 |
| mungbean | found the dvd inside some old linux magazine dvd cases as i was throwing them out | 19:56 |
| funkyHat | You'll be like Professor Brainstorm, need a google glass specifically for finding your google glass | 19:57 |
| funkyHat | *Branestawm, apparently | 19:59 |
| ali1234 | hugin isn't even that good | 20:04 |
| ali1234 | most of the configuration is for special panoramic lenses which you probably don't have | 20:04 |
| ali1234 | it's not really for stitching together snaps taken on a normal camera | 20:05 |
| ali1234 | and doesn't really do a very good job of it | 20:05 |
| MartijnVdS | so what's better | 20:05 |
| ali1234 | photoshop | 20:05 |
| MartijnVdS | and affordable | 20:06 |
| ali1234 | nothing | 20:06 |
| ali1234 | although actually the panorama apps on any smartphone these days will do a better job than hugin | 20:06 |
| MartijnVdS | Google is going to introduce something like this on g+ I heard | 20:06 |
| ali1234 | if you want something better than hugin your best bet is to write it yourself | 20:07 |
| MartijnVdS | but I no know graphics! | 20:07 |
| MartijnVdS | pixels iz hard! | 20:07 |
| ali1234 | such is life | 20:08 |
| ali1234 | you can probably do a better job rotating and resizing the images by hand | 20:08 |
| MartijnVdS | but that takes forever-ish | 20:09 |
| ali1234 | not really | 20:09 |
| ali1234 | if you only want a result as good as what you get from hugin it would take about 30 seconds per photo | 20:10 |
| ali1234 | if you want it to actually look like one big image with no weird artifacts then it would take longer of course | 20:10 |
| MartijnVdS | but doesn't hugin do perspective correction based on lens type? | 20:10 |
| ali1234 | only for special panaoramic lenses which you don't have, as i said | 20:10 |
| ali1234 | that mode is entirely for those special 360 degree panorama camera with special mount and lense | 20:11 |
| MartijnVdS | it's still better than nothing. | 20:12 |
| ali1234 | it is exactly equal to nothing because it has no effect on a normal photograph | 20:12 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: hugin-stitched panoramas still look better than the ones I can do by hand. | 20:15 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: as I don't want to spend days lining it up pixel-perfect, and finding the "perfect" crop | 20:15 |
| ali1234 | hugin doesn't do that either | 20:15 |
| MartijnVdS | it does | 20:15 |
| MartijnVdS | not the pixel-perfectness maybe, but better than I could | 20:16 |
| MartijnVdS | and it can find the "biggest possible crop" | 20:16 |
| MartijnVdS | (that has no black borders) | 20:16 |
| ali1234 | it's not even close to pixel perfect | 20:17 |
| ali1234 | if you want then you're going to have to spend hours with the clone stamp tool removing duplicated stuff near the edges | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | because hugin can't do it at all | 20:18 |
| MartijnVdS | I've been happy with the results | 20:18 |
| ali1234 | all it does is position the images in roughly the right places and then blend then together | 20:18 |
| MartijnVdS | the Icelandic guy is from Dalvik | 20:30 |
| MartijnVdS | never knew the Android bit was named after an icelandic town ;) | 20:30 |
| brobostigon | intwesting. | 20:31 |
| brobostigon | if i straightend my hair, it probably wouldnt be far from the length of that chaps hair either. | 20:33 |
| MartijnVdS | Mine wouldn't.. by a long shot :) | 20:34 |
| mungbean | http://i.imgur.com/6TgTE8s.jpg wasn't bad at all considering flash photog and no tinerking | 20:34 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: ah. | 20:34 |
| mungbean | hugin found 46 points to match to | 20:35 |
| mungbean | for each join | 20:35 |
| * brobostigon watches QI on bbc2 insted. | 20:35 | |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon: my hair is ~0.5cm :) | 20:35 |
| MartijnVdS | mungbean: nice | 20:35 |
| brobostigon | MartijnVdS: ah, understood, yes, not much. | 20:35 |
| mungbean | take note ali1234 | 20:35 |
| MartijnVdS | mungbean: he just likes to burst bubbles ;) | 20:36 |
| mungbean | :P | 20:36 |
| ali1234 | mungbean: that is what, 3 photos? | 20:36 |
| mungbean | yes | 20:36 |
| mungbean | plenty of chance of ruining the perspective | 20:36 |
| mungbean | you can see the join on the middle right 2/3 | 20:37 |
| mungbean | but i did nothing besides auto mode | 20:37 |
| ali1234 | the first seam is about 1/3 of the way into the engine | 20:37 |
| ali1234 | the second is in the middle of the wing and much more noticable | 20:37 |
| Myrtti | here's something that almost justifies the existance of the Romanian performer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELXeLkkhfXk | 20:38 |
| mungbean | i've done some massive football stadium ones which look great | 20:38 |
| mungbean | certainly more effecient that any manual job | 20:38 |
| bigcalm | Good evening kids :) | 21:13 |
| MartijnVdS | o/ | 21:14 |
| [JethroDawnfine] | ;) | 21:16 |
| zleap | hi | 21:17 |
| bigcalm | ep1 complete, on to replaying ep2 | 21:19 |
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