[04:27] ali1234: everyone uses network printers these days, right? ;) [05:24] mornin [08:06] MartijnVdS: my printer is only the netork thanks to a tiny little linux device ;) [09:03] good morning everyone, [09:06] hiya [09:06] morning dwatkins [09:07] I think today I will finally get to play some Half-Life 2 on Ubuntu :D [09:08] :) [10:42] Damn google dropping XMPP support, I am annoyed as hell now :@ [10:42] really? [10:42] Use our protocol, it's interoperable and open they say, write all your code on their platform [10:42] and then nope, screw you and your stuff. [10:43] mungbean: yup [10:43] http://windowspbx.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/hangouts-wont-hangout-with-other.html [10:43] when? [10:43] a few days ago [10:43] pidgin still works [10:44] mungbean: read the article [10:45] or at least the "What does this mean technically today?" part [10:45] it bricks the entire system. [10:45] I have bots that sit on XMPP so now they can't talk to my phone at all :@ [11:03] yeah. it's not broke yet, but it will be. bah. [11:06] bit of a bummer. just letting people use gmail instead of trying to move them to jabber was so much easier. but now we leap back 10 years to having to advocate protocols again [11:07] :( [11:08] half my contact list I can't even talk to - this is crazy. [11:08] really? mine are still showing up as long as it's via gmail, rather than g+ [11:11] shauno: yea, but I can't talk using my tablet [11:13] surely that's app-specific? if you're using something that logs into hangouts instead of google-talk? [11:17] if they keep up like this, people might stop looking at me funny for hosting my own mail/jabber/calendar/etc [11:17] owncloud being one option. [11:18] yeah, I'm using that for the calendar at the moment [11:18] similerly here, contacts aswell. kinda. [11:18] it feels a bit overweight for this single task, but it works [11:18] fair point, [11:20] I didn't get on with it's file syncing so well though, so I'm back to dropbox. but for the calendar, it's working out better than watching google drop caldav so far [11:27] i think a walk into town is called for, my dad is monopolising the tv with the cricket. [11:39] shauno: yea, I'm thinking of bailing on the google XMPP stuff too, so frustrating. [11:39] after all the work I did to make nice things on that protocol, they do this -.- [13:33] I quite like this thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1ekh8b/nondeveloper_users_why_do_you_use_linux/ === SirCrispinTheJew is now known as GentileBen === shonk is now known as kiwimind [16:40] Laney: hm? === james is now known as Guest1422 === Hornet- is now known as Hornet [19:02] so [19:02] does anyone know if there's anything to do between Colchester, Ipswich and Harwich? :) [19:03] go to the weatherspoons on clacton beach, and enjoy beer. [19:03] brobostigon: beer is out, I'm driving :) [19:04] MartijnVdS: oh dear, :( [19:04] MartijnVdS: colchester does have a LUG. [19:04] brobostigon: I have all of tomorrow to wait (for the boat back home) [19:04] brobostigon: been driving to Land's End & back the past week [19:05] MartijnVdS: ah. i have been around that area before, parents used to have a flat in clacton. [19:05] colchester zoo [19:05] mungbean: ooh, zoos are fun :) [19:05] mungbean: animals love having their picture taken [19:06] * brobostigon pretends to be a lion, RAWR. [19:06] * MartijnVdS took pictures of Nerina Pallot at Minack on Wednesday.. that was one amazing show [19:06] also, the theatre is *WOW* [19:06] :) [19:06] Lots of pics from the coast (path) around there [19:07] :) [19:07] Oh and I went to Lulworth Cove/Stair Hole/Durdle Door (on a sunny day! the pictures are amazing!) [19:07] wicked. [19:08] yeah, the south coast is beautiful, I've found [19:09] :D [19:09] could always poke Gary but he's so busy nowadays he's rarely on IRC [19:09] waited all week for an evening without baby and i'm too tired to do anything [19:09] mungbean: watch Eurovision [19:10] i want to do stuff, but too zzzzzzzz [19:10] oh dear. [19:11] my monring wil start at 5am prboably though [19:11] :( [19:11] wait a second.. there's "holland-on-sea"? [19:11] yes. [19:11] I must go there and take a picture of the sign :) [19:11] :) [19:11] MartijnVdS: right next to clacton is memory serves. [19:12] brobostigon: yeah, I was looking at gmaps [19:13] MartijnVdS: :) [19:14] MartijnVdS: one evening, i was caught tipsy on dad push bike, down that direction. [19:14] on my dads push bike. [19:14] when i once visited when they lived there. [19:15] haha :) [19:15] no joke, :) [19:23] why the heck is hugin so tricky to use [19:24] because it's so powerful and hasn't had enough rounds of UX design [19:24] !info hugin [19:24] hugin (source: hugin): panorama photo stitcher - GUI tools. In component universe, is optional. Version 2011.4.0+dfsg-5ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 1259 kB, installed size 4067 kB [19:26] just clicking blindly in the hope of results [19:27] fail [19:37] win [19:37] http://i.imgur.com/6TgTE8s.jpg [19:38] nice mungbean :) [19:39] :) [19:39] sometimes i take photos for later stitching but then forget and think they were just badly framed shots [19:39] these ones are 4 yrs old [19:40] i saw 3 next to each other and though...hmmm looks like i did that deliberately [19:42] mungbean: what did you use to do the stitching? [19:42] hugin [19:42] apt-got it on 12.04 [19:42] i think [19:43] this is an older effort pre-hugin of snowdonia [19:43] http://i.imgur.com/u30dm6j.jpg [19:43] 5 or 6 pics i think made that [19:49] bah, i hate the safe places i choose to hide things in. just found a paint brush that i'd lost for 2 months cos it was too well secreted [19:49] i hope this is what google glass will fix [19:52] cheaper to buy a new brush [19:56] except i lose things all the time [19:56] i lost PES for the wii for 2 yrs [19:56] found the dvd inside some old linux magazine dvd cases as i was throwing them out [19:57] You'll be like Professor Brainstorm, need a google glass specifically for finding your google glass [19:59] *Branestawm, apparently [20:04] hugin isn't even that good [20:04] most of the configuration is for special panoramic lenses which you probably don't have [20:05] it's not really for stitching together snaps taken on a normal camera [20:05] and doesn't really do a very good job of it [20:05] so what's better [20:05] photoshop [20:06] and affordable [20:06] nothing [20:06] although actually the panorama apps on any smartphone these days will do a better job than hugin [20:06] Google is going to introduce something like this on g+ I heard [20:07] if you want something better than hugin your best bet is to write it yourself [20:07] but I no know graphics! [20:07] pixels iz hard! [20:08] such is life [20:08] you can probably do a better job rotating and resizing the images by hand [20:09] but that takes forever-ish [20:09] not really [20:10] if you only want a result as good as what you get from hugin it would take about 30 seconds per photo [20:10] if you want it to actually look like one big image with no weird artifacts then it would take longer of course [20:10] but doesn't hugin do perspective correction based on lens type? [20:10] only for special panaoramic lenses which you don't have, as i said [20:11] that mode is entirely for those special 360 degree panorama camera with special mount and lense [20:12] it's still better than nothing. [20:12] it is exactly equal to nothing because it has no effect on a normal photograph [20:15] ali1234: hugin-stitched panoramas still look better than the ones I can do by hand. [20:15] ali1234: as I don't want to spend days lining it up pixel-perfect, and finding the "perfect" crop [20:15] hugin doesn't do that either [20:15] it does [20:16] not the pixel-perfectness maybe, but better than I could [20:16] and it can find the "biggest possible crop" [20:16] (that has no black borders) [20:17] it's not even close to pixel perfect [20:18] if you want then you're going to have to spend hours with the clone stamp tool removing duplicated stuff near the edges [20:18] because hugin can't do it at all [20:18] I've been happy with the results [20:18] all it does is position the images in roughly the right places and then blend then together [20:30] the Icelandic guy is from Dalvik [20:30] never knew the Android bit was named after an icelandic town ;) [20:31] intwesting. [20:33] if i straightend my hair, it probably wouldnt be far from the length of that chaps hair either. [20:34] Mine wouldn't.. by a long shot :) [20:34] http://i.imgur.com/6TgTE8s.jpg wasn't bad at all considering flash photog and no tinerking [20:34] MartijnVdS: ah. [20:35] hugin found 46 points to match to [20:35] for each join [20:35] * brobostigon watches QI on bbc2 insted. [20:35] brobostigon: my hair is ~0.5cm :) [20:35] mungbean: nice [20:35] MartijnVdS: ah, understood, yes, not much. [20:35] take note ali1234 [20:36] mungbean: he just likes to burst bubbles ;) [20:36] :P [20:36] mungbean: that is what, 3 photos? [20:36] yes [20:36] plenty of chance of ruining the perspective [20:37] you can see the join on the middle right 2/3 [20:37] but i did nothing besides auto mode [20:37] the first seam is about 1/3 of the way into the engine [20:37] the second is in the middle of the wing and much more noticable [20:38] here's something that almost justifies the existance of the Romanian performer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELXeLkkhfXk [20:38] i've done some massive football stadium ones which look great [20:38] certainly more effecient that any manual job [21:13] Good evening kids :) [21:14] o/ [21:16] <[JethroDawnfine]> ;) [21:17] hi [21:19] ep1 complete, on to replaying ep2