[00:56] <xubuntu468> Helo,
[00:56] <xubuntu468> since upgrading to 13.04
[00:56] <xubuntu468> it seem the Xfce enviroment is randomly crashing?
[00:56] <xubuntu468> anyone else seeing this?
[01:15] <xubuntu468> Nm solved here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2145246
[01:46] <xubuntu417> hi
[01:47] <Unit193> Howdy.
[01:47] <xubuntu417> in xubuntu12.04, my keyboard volume buttons don't coincide with the system volume, even though the volume window-thing shows up.
[01:48] <surfdaemon> xubuntu417: weird
[01:54] <xubuntu417> quite weird, yes.
[01:54] <xubuntu417> and that's a bug, no?
[01:55] <xubuntu417> it can't be that challenging to fix, or am i wrong?
[02:25] <devnill> I just upgraded to 13.04 and now compiz is failing
[02:25] <devnill> if I try compiz --replace it crashes xfce4-session
[02:26] <knome> devnill, just for starters, compiz isn't supported on xubuntu
[02:27] <devnill> I understand that it doesn't ship with it. I'm just trying to figure out how to debug dis
[02:28] <devnill> *this
[02:46] <holstein> devnill: it'll be challenging.. not sure what main ubuntu needs compiz to do.. i would try and live without compiz
[02:48] <devnill> I've had it up until 12.10 without major issues. It took a little work but now its not even logging
[02:49] <holstein> devnill: i would expect a little more work
[02:49] <devnill> What changed in this version?
[02:50] <holstein> devnill: nothing about xubuntu changed.. its just not supported.. and we dont know what is changed about it in main ubuntu, but i know things are changed
[02:50] <devnill> I see
[02:51] <devnill> I'm willing to switch to xfwm, but I can't seem to figure out how to configure it to the extent I'm used to. Can you point me to a good resource about working with it?
[02:52] <holstein> devnill: what do you want to do? other than the default setup?
[02:54] <devnill> Hotkeys to resize and move windows, hotkeys to switch workspaces relative to current position
[02:54] <devnill> hot corners to move windows between workspaces
[02:54] <holstein> devnill: i use the normal ones.. control+alt+arrows
[02:54] <holstein> devnill: i usually just right click and send them
[02:55] <devnill> That works pretty well
[02:55] <holstein> devnill: you should be able to get some of that happening easily with keyboard shortcuts
[02:57] <devnill> I'll play around with it a bit. I haven't used xfwm in a couple of years so I'm sure a lot has changed.
[04:08] <xubuntu734> Hello.
[04:15] <tabsterleir> Hey all, I was playing with some terminal based music players. I've since given up and removed all the packages, but when I copy music into ~/.Music it seems to be organising it in numbered folders. What would be causing this?
[04:20] <seronis> how do i get Thunar to obey alphabetical listing of files when those filenames include numeric characters?
[04:21] <seronis> its wrongfully putting files like 009ADZ.dat _AFTER_ 1AAA99.dat for example
[05:15] <donnie> Odd that the 386 version works way better and way faster on my 64-bit system, than the 64-bit version
[05:18] <donnie> I do however love the new 13.04... It's amazing
[05:33] <xubuntu816> hi i just installed an app, whr do i look for the executable?
[05:34] <well_laid_lawn> what app was it?
[05:34] <xubuntu816> gparted
[05:34] <well_laid_lawn> in a terminal you can do   which <app name here>
[05:35] <Aethysius> It'll be in the same general menu as IRC, but under the system tab
[05:35] <xubuntu816> it seems i am able to execute it in terminal
[05:35] <xubuntu816> but i cant find it in the x terminal
[05:35] <xubuntu816> tried systems tab, theres nth
[05:35] <xubuntu816> o.o
[05:38] <xubuntu816> though it seems to be available in the settings>systems
[05:40] <surfdaemon> xubuntu816: yes, that is also where it is on mine.
[05:40] <xubuntu816> oh ok thanks. still new to ubuntu T.T
[05:41] <surfdaemon> xubuntu816: xubuntu?
[05:41] <xubuntu816> it has xfc
[05:41] <xubuntu816> ya xubuntu
[09:18] <peyam> Hej
[09:19] <peyam> What is the best music player for linux which I can control the base and other stuff with. not just the valume?
[09:24] <TheSheep> !best
[09:51] <kennyngston> Hi
[09:51] <kennyngston> does anyone knows why do i have two screens in xubuntu by default ?
[09:51] <kennyngston> even though im only running 1?
[09:52] <kennyngston> they are overlapping each other
[09:52] <TheSheep> kennyngston: what is xrandr saying?
[09:52] <kennyngston> which part are you interested at?
[09:53] <TheSheep> just pastebin the output, see topic
[09:53] <kennyngston> mkay
[09:54] <kennyngston> http://pastebin.com/zq5c7fQi
[09:54] <kennyngston> i don't have any extra screen connected to the laptop physically
[09:55] <kennyngston> could be regardin that i'm on a laptop with hybrid graphics?
[09:55] <TheSheep> yeah
[09:55] <TheSheep> possible
[09:55] <TheSheep> are you using bumblebee?
[09:56] <kennyngston> nah fresh install of xubuntu
[09:56] <kennyngston> and if im correct bumblebee only works with nvidia
[09:56] <kennyngston> i'm ati/intel here
[09:56] <TheSheep> I see, well, it's probably that, I wouldn't worry about it
[09:56] <TheSheep> you can disable one of those screens if you like
[09:56] <TheSheep> not sure which is the physical one though
[09:57] <kennyngston> hm i'd rather make it switchable between graphics card
[09:57] <kennyngston> any stable solution?
[09:57] <TheSheep> actually, I think the LVDS2 is the physical one, because it has dimensions
[09:58] <TheSheep> no idea, I use bumblebee because I have an optimus laptop
[09:58] <TheSheep> you will have to do some research
[09:58] <kennyngston> well asking never hurts :)
[10:11] <Ameb> hello. I just installed Xubuntu yesterday and was wondering the differences between xfce and xubuntu sessions. Its just the menus or there are more things? It seems like the xubuntu one is a bit fancier.
[10:15] <TheSheep> Ameb: it's just the initial layout of the panels, basically
[10:19] <Ameb> thanks TheSheep
[10:40] <xubuntu032> guys i installed cairo dock
[10:41] <xubuntu032> but when i am moving my mouse over the bottom on the dock panel
[10:41] <xubuntu032> it shows me the old panel 2 of xubuntu
[10:41] <xubuntu032> before pop ups the cairo dock
[10:41] <xubuntu032> why?
[10:54] <koegs> xubuntu032: because both are active?
[10:54] <koegs> just remove panel 2 if you do not want it
[11:02] <xubuntu724> Hello! Just installed xubuntu, microphone is not active on skype but speaker is ok. How can I activate the mic?? Thanks!
[11:12] <TheSheep> !skype | xubuntu724
[11:27] <xubuntu032> koegs yes but if i want just to set off the panel2 but not remove it completely?so maybe one day that i want to use it i dont have to resetting it again?
[12:48] <xubuntu032> can i save somehow my panel2 so when i remove it i can restore it back if i want it with the lanchers that had on it before?
[12:50] <TheSheep> xubuntu032: you can backup your config file
[12:50] <TheSheep> xubuntu032: ~/.config/xfce4/panel/
[12:58] <xubuntu032> thank you so much
[13:14] <xubuntu032> is there something like ms paint on xubuntu?
[13:14] <xubuntu032> i mean i want just
[13:14] <xubuntu032> to take screenshoots from a chat
[13:14] <xubuntu032> and pasting them to png files
[13:14] <xubuntu032> but
[13:15] <xubuntu032> using screenshoot application i take one but then the application is closed and i need to going eatch time accessories-->screenshoot..
[13:16] <TheSheep> you can just run it in a loop
[13:16] <TheSheep> but I use gimp
[13:16] <TheSheep> it's a little bit more advanced than photoshop, but makes screenshots just fine
[13:17] <xubuntu032> yeah i wanted to avoid installing Gim
[13:17] <xubuntu032> how can i run it into a loop?i am so newbie in linux
[13:20] <TheSheep> for example this: for (( i=1; i <= 5; i++ )); do xfce4-screenshooter -f -s screenshots; done
[13:21] <TheSheep> will make 5 screenshots of entire screen and svae them in the 'screenshots' directory
[13:22] <TheSheep> you can run: xfce4-screenshotter --help    to see the available options
[13:22] <xubuntu032> oh thank you...but some things its too complicated hehe...
[13:22] <TheSheep> it's very powerful
[13:23] <TheSheep> there are some simple graphics programs like mtpaint or paint.net, but somehow I don't like them
[13:23] <TheSheep> !info mtpaint
[13:23] <TheSheep> !paint.net
[13:23] <TheSheep> !info paint.net
[13:23] <TheSheep> hmm
[13:26] <xubuntu032> thank you anyway...i ll try firstly mpaint
[13:26] <xubuntu032> and yes its true very powerfull the linux
[13:26] <xubuntu032> still wonder how comes people using it in so less %
[13:30] <TheSheep> xubuntu032: because great power brings great responsibility
[13:34] <xubuntu032> what responsibility?
[13:34] <xubuntu032> expect if you mean the study that maybe have the people to make..
[13:35] <TheSheep> you just said yourself that it's complicated
[13:35] <TheSheep> that's the price for the power
[13:36] <xubuntu032> yeah it is true
[13:39] <xubuntu032> by the way macos also isnt like linux?
[13:39] <xubuntu032> i dont mean about open source philosphy
[13:39] <xubuntu032> i mean about the way that works...
[13:55] <kennyngston> hey
[13:55] <kennyngston> what is the command that can tell me which video drivers do i have installed?
[14:17] <marsje> Hi. My Xubuntu sets the monitor to the wrong resolution (lower) when starting. With xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1280x1024 I set it right. But how can I make sure X uses this resolution by default?
[14:30] <marsje> I tried setting it in ~/.xprofile, but it seems this is ignored
[14:32] <bekks> marsje: There is no such file at all. Use the xorg.conf to manually configure your x server or just set the desired resolution in the settings.
[14:34] <marsje> bekks: inthe settings I can't choose higher than 1024x768
[14:34] <bekks> marsje: Then you have to investigate the reason.
[14:34] <marsje> looks like the monitor is not recognized there, although xrandr does show the resolution (but does not select it)
[14:35] <marsje> bekks: if I was smart enough to investigate it, I would not be here ;-)
[14:37] <marsje> bekks: is it right I don't have an xorg.conf by default? and if I need one, I should create from scratch?
[14:38] <bekks> Thats correct.
[14:39] <marsje> and you need to create all these sections, right?
[14:40] <bekks> Yes.
[14:52] <marsje> bekks: when I start the computer the screen resolution is detected correctly and the login screen is in 1280x1024, but when I login, the resolution goes down to 1024x768. Any idea why that is?
[15:08] <bekks> marsje: Which graphics driver do you use?
[15:11] <marsje> the card is a Intel 965G
[15:12] <marsje> lsmod shows a i915... is that the driver?
[15:17] <bekks> yes
[15:24] <seronis> how do i get Thunar to obey alphabetical listing of files when those filenames include numeric characters?
[15:24] <seronis> its wrongfully putting files like 009ADZ.dat _AFTER_ 1AAA99.dat for example
[15:24] <bekks> seronis: alphanumerical sorting means 1..9, 0, a-z
[15:25] <seronis> thats not its behaviour
[15:25] <seronis> its not interprettng names character per character
[15:25] <seronis> if the beginning of the name is a series of digits it takes ALL the numeric digits as one value
[15:25] <bekks> Yes, thats expected.
[15:25] <seronis> so in the example i gave its ignoring the zeros and seeing the 9, then putting that after
[15:25] <seronis> thats wrong
[15:26] <seronis> i want -actual- alphabetical order.. not  'pretend smart behaviour'
[15:26] <marsje> bekks: not sure why, but my monitor is now detected by xubuntu
[19:03] <xubuntu314> help
[19:03] <xubuntu314> ?
[19:23] <foobar55> hi all - somebody know where i can change  min,max,close icons to the left side ? 12.04 xfce4  ?
[19:24] <knome> foobar55, in settings manager, go to window manager, and in the style tab, see the "button layout" section
[19:27] <jhk753> Hi
[19:28] <knome> hello
[19:29] <jhk753> I've just installed xubuntu on a usb key from a usb live. When the install was finished I took my usb live out and rebooted
[19:29] <jhk753> but then I got a black screen with _
[19:29] <jhk753> and no grub
[19:29] <foobar55> knome - thx - i found it - but with Redmond XP style it didnt run
[19:30] <jhk753> and I'm sure my bios booted the right usb
[19:30] <knome> foobar55, can you confirm if it works with other themes?
[19:30] <jhk753> So I'm reinstalling right know, but if someone has an idea to help me, I'll be very gratefull
[19:30] <jhk753> ;)
[19:30] <knome> jhk753, (u)efi?
[19:31] <jhk753> what about UEFI ?
[19:31] <foobar55> knome - no , all grayed out - i try with root
[19:31] <knome> !uefi | jhk753
[19:31] <jhk753> in my bios it was USB:
[19:31] <jhk753> but my live USB booted from UEFI
[19:32] <knome> foobar55, right, i see. that theme most probably doesn't support that feature.
[19:32] <jhk753> so I don't know... What do you mean exaclty ?
[19:33] <knome> jhk753, i would advise readin through that wikipage if you have a UEFI machine
[19:33] <foobar55> knome - right - default's and others are working
[19:33] <jhk753> ok thanks
[19:33] <jhk753> I'll have a look
[19:34] <foobar55> but i like the big/ claer icons in redmond
[19:35] <knome> foobar55, you got to pick one: better icons or better location
[19:35] <knome> foobar55, or fix the redmondxp theme...
[19:35] <foobar55> knome - i have two left hands
[19:41] <foobar55> knome -   you know how to change scrollbar to left side = about:config seamonkey/firefox - something with layout i remenber
[19:41] <knome> foobar55, nope
[19:42] <foobar55> yes - layout.scrollbar.side
[20:02] <swiftkick> hi I am running the latest xubuntu and I had occasion to edit some  settngs in Xorg.conf ... and it doesnt  appeaar to be i /etc/X11. Can anyone tell me where it is? or what is the deal?
[20:02] <Unit193> !xorgconf
[20:02] <swiftkick> thanks!
[20:03] <Unit193> Sure thing.
[20:04] <swiftkick> I already have the settings I need to pass. They involve using metamodes  to set ViewPortIn and ViewPortOut ... is there somewhere  else I should be setting these?
[20:10] <swiftkick> so - is there a better place to put ViewPort settings since xorg.conf is now gone?
[20:11] <Unit193> No idea/not that I know of.
[20:16] <swiftkick> ok, i tried the instructions and they dont work. renaming xorg.conf to 55-xorg.conf and placing it in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d and restarting lightdm doesnt read the values there as far as I can see.
[20:19] <swiftkick> without ViewPortIn and ViewPortOUt in the Screen section for my monitor my screen overscans horribly.
[20:22] <xubuntu904> guys i intalled Netbeans 7.1
[20:22] <xubuntu904> and the fonts really sucks...
[20:22] <xubuntu904> i spent a few time googling and i saw that alot other ppl had the same problem and some said that the problem was about openjdk java
[20:23] <xubuntu904> that is by default available in ubuntu
[20:23] <xubuntu904> and that i should install oracle sunjdk 7
[20:23] <xubuntu904> so i did
[20:23] <xubuntu904> but still the same
[20:27] <xubuntu379> soy un troll
[21:01] <chaitime> hello friends
[21:06] <bazhang> hi
[21:07] <chaitime> does Xubuntu have utilites already installed to where it can handle a full desktop such as handling dual monitors?
[21:07] <Unit193> You'd want to install arandr for that.
[21:08] <chaitime> Unit193: there is no gnome like panel for this?
[21:08] <chaitime> I dont want to install tool afte rtool
[21:08] <chaitime> I guess ubuntu would have this but I was told not to use it due to "unity"
[21:09] <Unit193> You can use whatever you want, but arandr should do it.
[21:09] <chaitime> thanks Unit193 :)
[21:10] <Unit193> http://xubuntu.org/news/faq-1204-precise/ has one forit.
[21:15] <chaitime> Unit193: do you program
[21:16] <chaitime> or use any ruby
[21:16] <chaitime> mvc
[21:16] <Unit193> I've edited a couple ruby sources.
[21:19] <lderan> have heard good things about ruby
[21:20] <chaitime> Unit193: and lderan can we be friends
[21:20] <Unit193> Mind want to move to -offtopic?
[21:21] <chaitime> how
[21:21] <Unit193> /join #xubuntu-offtopic
[21:33] <xubuntu904> so anyone have used Netbeans and know any way to customize her fonts to look good like it was running on windows?
[21:41] <xubuntu958> i have a prolem and need assistence. when i atempt the log-on to my computer(after entering the password and pressing enter) the background image is all that appears NO MENUS
[21:42] <xubuntu958> how do i fix this prolem?
[21:45] <ochosi> xubuntu958: you can hit alt+f2 and then enter "xfce4-panel"
[21:45] <ochosi> (alt+f2 opens xfrun/appfinder)
[21:45] <ochosi> ideally that'll bring your panel back
[22:21] <supersecond> hello
[22:21] <supersecond> need some help in regards to file sharing
[22:22] <lderan> okay, what do you need help with?
[22:23] <supersecond> lderan: hello, i'd like to share between windows 7 and xubuntu 13.04
[22:24] <lderan> is it on the same computer or over a network?
[22:24] <supersecond> same network
[22:25] <lderan> samba is probably the best way to do that
[22:25] <lderan> !samba
[22:27] <lderan> also here is some guides for it as well https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba
[22:27] <supersecond> yea i tried it. still can't see it. but i'll read those links. thanks
[23:17] <supersecond> hello all again
[23:29] <sdafds> hi, i just installed xubuntu 13 with the option to install along side my windows xp and after reboot i only get a black screen.
[23:29] <sdafds> grub is not showing up, and i tried to reinstall to mbr after booting the live media, says no errors reported when installing but still, same thing, will not boot to either xubuntu nor show the os selection menu
[23:30] <sdafds> something is really messed up with grub in xubuntu 13
[23:31] <sdafds> if i reset the pc, and hold shift just after post, it should force grub to show the menu, all i get is grub loading.
[23:31] <sdafds> and it stays there
[23:32] <sdafds> i don't know what to try since reinstalling grub from the live media does not solve the problem
[23:33] <sdafds> also , when reinstalling grub from the live media in a chroot enviroment it detects the xubuntu kernel images and my xp install, but it fails when i reboot
[23:35] <th0r> sdafds, is this a SATA drive?
[23:35] <sdafds> yes
[23:36] <sdafds> wait
[23:36] <sdafds> no
[23:36] <sdafds> it's IDE
[23:36] <sdafds> i'm sure it's IDE
[23:36] <sdafds> btw, xubuntu 12 did not do this to me..
[23:37] <sdafds> so it has to do with the latest grub
[23:37] <sdafds> what bugs me is that grub is not loading at all
[23:38] <sdafds> i could do with some complaints from grub not being able to boot some entry, but to not load at all..
[23:38] <th0r> sdafds, ask in #ubuntu. There was some discussion the other day about efi and 13. I didn't pay much attention as I will never subject myself to any of that 'new and improved' secure boot stuff.
[23:38] <sdafds> my pc doesn't have efi
[23:38] <sdafds> it's from 2005
[23:38] <sdafds> no efi then
[23:38] <sdafds> err efi is that os signature shit?
[23:39] <th0r> sdafds, yeah. Like I said..I didn't pay much attention to the discussion, so it may not be at all applicable. But since no one was talking to you here <smile>
[23:39] <sdafds> yes i might do that
[23:39] <sdafds> thanks