[04:20] valorie: ? [04:20] Darkwing: ? [04:21] here [04:21] cool [04:21] how are you tonight, aaron? [04:21] we morning here lol good, you? [04:21] * valorie has been listening to uds sessions I've missed [04:21] ah, where are you? [04:21] Florida [04:21] * valorie is near Seattle [04:22] it is not morning in Florida! [04:22] 12 [04:22] 12:22 am [04:22] btw, where in FL? [04:22] i've only been to Orlando [04:22] Orlando is in Florida [04:22] and the Wekiva River, which I LOVED [04:23] Florida is the state [04:23] yes, I wondered how far you were from orlando [04:23] that was a great video chat [04:23] oh like 300 or so miles [04:23] I wish I could have stayed to the end [04:23] :( [04:23] the UDS? [04:23] I did come to the UDS, a few days early [04:23] and stayed with my friend on the Wekiva [04:24] oh I wanted to go so bad [04:24] which is paradise [04:24] do you live south or north of O? [04:24] can you help me fix up this page? Add a comment... [04:24] south [04:24] ok [04:24] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs [04:24] I've always wanted to see Miama [04:25] its fine, I've never been to clubs or real bars, since I'm only 20 [04:25] after watching Dexter [04:25] it looks amazing [04:26] ok, I added Krita [04:26] to the page [04:26] oh yea I know [04:26] oh ok [04:26] Miami, sheesh [04:26] I just want to fix that page, get things worked out with titles for the pages, and what to put on them [04:27] cool [04:27] might be able to copy /paste some of the stuff we've already written [04:27] move, etc. [04:27] yes I have done that for the welcome page [04:27] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Welcome [04:28] I know I need to change a few things, like the release names as it says 13.04 [04:29] well, we won't need the sub page part [04:29] hopefully [04:29] yea I want to have links back since we are trying to use the web slice widget [04:30] cool [04:30] just trying to get a foundation first [04:31] of course [04:32] guess you can say I am taking lead lol [04:33] yes, you are [04:33] I wish there was a way to make a header look right but be a link as well [04:34] use a clickable image? [04:34] maybe [04:36] I'm just going to keep trying [04:41] * ahoneybun wonders if moinmoin supports that [04:44] valorie: put a web slice widget on your desktop and link it to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs [04:44] please [04:48] yikes, how does one add a url? [04:48] now I have two o fhte damn things [04:48] the setting icon on the side when you hover over the widget [04:49] ok, got rid of one [04:49] ok, you meant on the desktop, and mine's in the panel where it is useless [04:49] yea [04:52] damn I hate these li(*(^&%*&( [04:53] it looks good, though [04:54] I hate that you can't move it anywhere [04:54] effing widgets [04:54] I never do *anything* on my desktop anymore, because I can't stand stuff I can't place where I want, the size I want [04:57] does it work for you as well? [04:59] the site or putting things on my destop? [05:08] the site on the slice widget [05:13] yea it works [05:14] cool [05:14] just wonder if we need to make https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Welcome shorter [05:15] I didn't quite understand why the slice was chosen rather than the browser widget? [05:15] ahoneybun: shorter is always better [05:15] I know [05:15] valorie: I know, the browser one is looking better that it can scroll [05:18] well, just because we decided on slice at the meeting doesn't mean we can't change our minds [05:18] we've got time to decide what's best [05:19] I know [05:20] yea it was just nice the way slice looked at first [05:20] it makes me happy that we're working NOW and not waiting though [05:20] waiting? [05:22] to the end [05:22] which is the way it has been while I've been around [05:23] I think with the browser vs slice we do not need to shorten it as much as I thought [05:24] well: shorter is always better [05:24] people don't read our golden prose [05:24] I know [05:25] but it does not limit it as much as slice would have [05:32] people have a short attention span [05:32] I know [05:32] imo whatever looks best is the right choice [05:32] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Welcome [05:32] if they are interested, they'll read [05:32] otherwise, they'll skip it anyway, so we may as well look sharp [05:36] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Basic [05:36] can you tell me what you think we don't need? [05:38] well, I think all the tips are not basic [05:38] good stuff, but not necessarily basic [05:39] so remove? [05:40] I'm going to move the managing software to the right page. [05:43] well [05:43] I think darkwing had the right idea [05:43] start with what we WANT [05:43] drag that in [05:43] then decide what to do with what's left [05:44] the reason what we have is so full of cruft is because no one has ever done that [05:45] so what do I do just pull all the work I have or look at what we have in the original docs and pull what we want [05:46] valorie: then lets work on this https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs and write what we think is needed in the Docs [05:46] then pull info from the old docs, and then take the fat off of what we think we don't need [05:48] I'm busy atm, but can help in a few [05:48] I can just go to sleep and you get to it when you have the time [05:49] and send a email with your opinion [05:49] *s [05:49] ok, but write what you want [05:49] and we'll include darkwing in our lil doc circle [05:50] what I want in the docs? what is there right now is for what darkwing said for now [05:50] ok I'm off to bed for now [05:53] hi there [05:53] are there any experts here? [06:02] lars: experts on what? [06:02] we're all experts [06:02] but this isn't support, this is devel [06:03] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Welcome has a broken link [06:03] which one, palasso? [06:03] we were just working on that [06:03] On What is Linux section the first link is: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/www.linux.org [06:03] woah [06:03] It should be www.linux.org [06:03] yes, fixing [06:04] hmmm, not sure what you are seeing [06:05] oh, I see [06:05] that is *strange* [06:05] and not what is in the text [06:06] The same on the same section with GNU Project! [06:06] fixed it; thanks for pointing that out [06:06] just fixed that too [06:07] np [06:07] turns out if you leave out the http:// part [06:07] the wiki stuff is inserted! [06:07] strange and weird moinmoin [06:07] btw, it's a wiki, so editable by you, too [06:07] :-0 [06:08] r u sure? [06:08] Should I register or sth? [06:08] you have to have an account, yes [06:08] but it should be fixed [06:09] Ok thnx for the notice ;) [06:09] if you want to help us with docs, you'll need an account..... the one for ubuntu.com works for all, I think [06:09] we're starting now on the docs for saucy === lars is now known as Genyar [08:43] Good morning. [09:47] ::qt-bugs:: [1155687] KDE session didn't start after upgrading from Quantal to Raring. Fixed after installing pr... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1155687 (by avlas) [11:39] Hiyas all === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw [16:04] ::qt-bugs:: [1180067] No icons on buttons @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1180067 (by GamePad64) [16:21] hello people [17:08] ::qt-bugs:: [1181797] package libqtcore4 4:4.8.3+dfsg-0ubuntu3.1 failed to install/upgrade: cannot copy extracte... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1181797 (by Jeffrey Smith) [19:25] New CMake needs merging. [19:58] bah, kwallet is one of the crudiest parts of KDE, sadly :( [19:59] [20:06] I'm having problems installing Kubuntu 12.04 [20:06] Is there an expert here who can help me? [20:10] lars: #kubuntu for support :)