[02:30] <qwebirc98809> hi
[02:30] <qwebirc98809> someone online?
[02:30] <jea> Hello qwebirc98809 
[02:30] <qwebirc98809> great!
[02:30] <qwebirc98809> i need help with unbunto apache
[02:31] <jea> Ok. What version of ubuntu?
[02:31] <qwebirc98809> ubunto studio -> Apche runs but it shows no images
[02:33] <jea> ok. So when you visit the web address, you get the default apache page?
[02:34] <qwebirc98809> yes, thats all OK, but images like <img scr ....> will not be shown. the same image as background works 
[02:34] <jea> ok. is there a blank box on the page for it?
[02:35] <qwebirc98809> no, in firefox the is a wlid card in chrome is nothing
[02:36] <jea> ok. i guess the first thing is to ensure the url for the image is correct
[02:36] <qwebirc98809> it is
[02:36] <jea> so if you browse directly to the image, what happens?
[02:36] <qwebirc98809> it's shown
[02:37] <jea> ok. what is the HTML for the <img> that you are using?
[02:37] <qwebirc98809> <img scr="localhost/htdocs/kelvin/termine.jpg" />
[02:38] <qwebirc98809> the *,php is in /kelvin
[02:38] <jea> is it 'scr' or 'src'? because an image tag needs to be '<img src="blah.jpg" >'
[02:40] <qwebirc98809> ups, sorry ... it's src 
[02:41] <jea> if you go to "http://localhost/htdocs/kelvin/termine.jpg" in a browser, what do you see?
[02:41] <jea> because I suspect it should just be "http://localhost/kelvin/termine.jpg"
[02:41] <qwebirc98809> The requested URL /kelvin/termine.jpg" was not found on this server.
[02:42] <jea> was that for "http://localhost/htdocs/kelvin/termine.jpg" ?
[02:42] <qwebirc98809> same
[02:42] <qwebirc98809> localhost/htdocs/kelvin/termine.jpg
[02:42] <qwebirc98809> works
[02:42] <jea> ok
[02:43] <jea> so just to check, going to "localhost/htdocs/kelvin/termine.jpg" shows you the image, and going to "localhost/kelvin/termine.jpg" gives a error "requested URL is not found..."
[02:44] <qwebirc98809> check
[02:44] <jea> ok
[02:45] <jea> in chrome, can you open the developer tools
[02:45] <jea> you can right click anywhere on the page, and go "inspect element"
[02:46] <qwebirc98809> <img src="localhost/htdocs/kelvin/termine.jpg">
[02:47] <jea> ok
[02:47] <jea> At the top of the Developer Tools, there is a Console tab
[02:47] <jea> is there anything written in it
[02:47] <jea> (it might be good to refresh the page, and see if anything comes up)
[02:48] <qwebirc98809> order-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); display: inline-block; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: bold; height: 20px; line-height: normal; text-align: center; white-space: normal; width: 18px; Styles :active	:hover :focus	:visited
[02:48] <qwebirc98809> i quess this is the wild-card
[02:49] <qwebirc98809> the image should be much bigger
[02:49] <jea> um, that is from the styles section, not the Console tab
[02:50] <jea> is this website public online, or just local to you?
[02:50] <qwebirc98809> only local
[02:50] <qwebirc98809> Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found) 
[02:51] <jea> ok
[02:51] <jea> right, that is what i was expecting
[02:51] <qwebirc98809> ?
[02:51] <jea> what is the url shown for the resource that failed to load
[02:51] <qwebirc98809> ok
[02:52] <qwebirc98809> http://127.0.0.1/htdocs/kelvin/localhost/htdocs/kelvin/termine.jpg
[02:52] <jea> ok, there is your problem
[02:52] <qwebirc98809> i see
[02:52] <jea> in your <img> tag, you are putting a relative path
[02:52] <jea> so it build that url
[02:53] <jea> because you are viewing "http://localhost/htdocs/kelvin", the image tag should be
[02:53] <jea> <img src="termine.jpg">
[02:53] <jea> you don't need all the rest of it
[02:54] <qwebirc98809> oh god!
[02:54] <qwebirc98809> what the f...
[02:54] <jea> is it working after the change?
[02:54] <qwebirc98809> yes
[02:55] <jea> good
[02:55] <qwebirc98809> 5 hours
[02:55] <qwebirc98809> thanks a lot
[02:55] <jea> so the main thing is to know how web links work, for src and href
[02:56] <jea> if you have a link that is "something/else/file.jpg", it is relative to the current location
[02:57] <jea> if it is "/path/to/file.jpg", the link is relative to the root (ie. http://localhost/ in this case)
[02:57] <qwebirc98809> yes
[02:57] <jea> the third type is a full path like "http://localhost/path/to/file.jpg"
[02:57] <jea> so basically you just had it mixed up a bit
[02:58] <jea> if you added a "http://" to the front of what you had, it would also work
[02:58] <qwebirc98809> U are a god! now i can go to bed ;)
[02:59] <jea> out of curiosity, what country are you from?
[02:59] <qwebirc98809> germany / bonn
[02:59] <qwebirc98809> its 5 a clock
[02:59] <jea> cool
[02:59] <jea> how did you find #ubuntu-au?
[03:00] <qwebirc98809> freenet-server
[03:00] <qwebirc98809> freenet is a 'german' provider
[03:00] <jea> ok. Well, from the Australian Ubuntu team, we say glad we could help
[03:01] <qwebirc98809> i'm glad 2
[03:01] <qwebirc98809> good night
[03:01] <jea> night
[03:02] <jea> I would love to know how Ubuntu Australia comes up as a suggested help site
[03:02] <jea> anyway, at least the problem was sorted
[04:09] <Noskcaj> just rad the backlog, we are a german channel now?
[04:10] <Noskcaj> *read
[04:22] <jea> it would appear some people think we are
[04:22] <jea> I wonder if they think the au is for Austria, instead of Australia
[04:45] <Noskcaj> jea, maybe.
[10:46] <dionysios> hello all
[10:48] <jea> Hello dionysios 
[10:48] <dionysios> hey jea
[10:49] <dionysios> can anyone here tell me if i can source laptops without os in australia
[10:50] <jea> I suspect you would have a hard time getting one
[10:50] <jea> but I haven't tried myself
[10:51] <dionysios> surely i asume if not here in australia can source os
[10:52] <dionysios> i find it frustrating
[10:52] <jea> the cost of windows is next to nothing anyway
[10:52] <jea> because MS sells is very cheaply to OEMs
[10:57] <dionysios> yeah ms has pushed everyone out of the market
[10:59] <dionysios> i just know some manufacturers install ubuntu on laptops but pretty certain os only
[11:00] <jea> i think all laptops will come with an os of some sort
[12:26] <jea> jared: i think michael is getting a bit too held up in trying to organise the translations, when he could just be translating
[12:32] <jared> jea: organising is one thing, reinventing the wheel is a bit over the top
[12:33] <jea> yes, very much