/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/05/19/#ubuntu-touch.txt

Bandyschi09:26
BandyscCan someone tell me what the hell breakfast tool (mentioned in porting guide) is? I have installed all packages, added phablet-tools ppa, upgraded packages but I still do not have breakfast app...09:27
user82awd, were you the 3g guy?09:52
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awduser82, nope.10:23
user82ok10:23
kanttiiAnyone online?14:27
ajalkaneI am, admittedly14:27
kanttiiAh, great :)14:28
kanttiiI couldn't find any "good" info about Ubuntu Touch for Atom devices - do you know if it's possible to install it on them? I have VivoTab Smart, but apparently Atom Z2760 doesn't support 64bit OS or SLAT..14:30
ajalkaneSorry, no idea. I'm just waiting for dedicated Ubuntu Phone hardware.14:30
kanttiiI've tried a few distros on USB, all 32bit, and obviously they won't even boot to the OS, but instead are forwarded to Windows 8.14:30
kanttiiYeah! Same here!14:31
kanttiiI'd love to try it on an Atom tablet so I thought if anyone here had experience on that :)14:31
kanttiiGotta try a 64bit image though I doubt it works.. I read someone had built Arc from scratch adding the required EFI stuff, but the post was a few months old and the author doesn't seem to see PM's :D14:32
kanttiiDo you know if the touch Unity can be installed on regular ubuntu desktop?14:32
kanttiiTuletko Jolla Love Day-tapahtumaan?14:34
user82kanttii, unity8 will be available in ubuntu 13.10 i think. at least optionally14:36
kanttiiAwesome!14:36
user82kanttii, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/05/unity-8-mir-to-be-available-to-try-in-ubuntu-13-1014:37
user82i think it is the same unity as in touch14:37
user82not 100% sure14:37
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kanttii@user82 - Oh man some news sites say it's coming with 14.04 -_- hope not.14:39
kanttiiI'll check the daily build if there's anything yet!14:39
swordfishHi everyone!... I'm a computer engineering student and i would like to help in the development of ubuntu touch. As a first test i with qml i made a minesweeper game. Now i want to share the code on the launchpad but i don't know how. Can someone give me an hand?15:52
netcurliswordfish: sure16:06
netcurlido you already have a launchpad account?16:06
swordfishyeah!... I also created the launchpad project and given the public ssh key16:07
netcurliand you have installed bzr on your computer16:08
netcurli?16:08
swordfishyes...16:09
netcurlihttps://help.launchpad.net/Code/UploadingABranch16:09
netcurliso you just need to login with bzr and then upload16:09
swordfishyeah... I followed that steps before but i didnt had the ssh keys configured!... I think I'm on the right way thank you!...16:13
netcurliif you run into further problems, just ask again :)16:13
swordfishthank you again! :D16:14
isstyhello17:00
isstywhat is direct download link for tuch17:00
lm902。。。。。。17:54
SpacedOutfginther: I guess I'm confused on how things work.  I see your e-mail on lp:qtubuntu OpenGL context sharing, but all the other merge requests have the PS Jenkins bot review, even though no one else did any reviews.17:55
fgintherSpacedOut, are you referring to all other reviews for qtubuntu? https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/qtubuntu/trunk/+activereviews17:56
SpacedOutYes all the other merge requests has a jenkins bot review without any other reviews (other than the one I reviewed myself).17:58
SpacedOutAny suggestions on who would know the Qt5 platform abstraction to do a review?17:59
fgintherSpacedOut, jenkins bot will automatically review MPs for Canonical employees, the other reviews I checked all originated from employees18:01
fgintherSpacedOut, Mirv is a good qt expert, let me see if I can pull out a few more names18:02
SpacedOutThat must be it then, thanks for the information.  I tried looking around for how things worked, but didn't find the details.18:02
lm902Anyone knows how can I flash ubuntu touch on galaxy tab 2 10.1 without a usb cable thanks.(cwm flashed) admin@lm902.com18:03
fgintherSpacedOut, yeah, sorry about that. I don't think the process is documented on any of the wikis18:03
fgintherSpacedOut, by the way, our paths have crossed before. I also worked at HP in RSN18:04
SpacedOutThat has been a long time.18:04
SpacedOutWhich state are you in these days?  (I have no idea where canonical is located).18:06
fgintherSpacedOut, I live in IA, but work from home. The home office is in London18:06
SpacedOutI ended up not taking the HP offer after college and from those I did stay in contact with, the group I would have continued in was layedoff.18:07
fgintherSpacedOut, I escaped the layoffs and worked there for a decade, then left while it was my decision18:11
fgintherSpacedOut, there are a few more of us ex-HPers working on ubuntu18:12
fgintherSpacedOut, regarding the review, if Mirv can't help, you can try ricmm or loicm. If they can't review, hopefully they can find someone who can.18:13
SpacedOutGood deal, I've been at my current job for a decade, in the aerospace industry, sometimes I get to work with Linux.  I picked up the Nexus 10 for the ubuntu-touch to see how the Qt5 application ran on it.  I have it working.18:14
SpacedOutI'm in Missouri, St Louis area.18:15
SpacedOutfginther: Thanks for the pointers.  If I get ambitious I'll look into the hidden window problem that I'm using as an extra context that I needed the sharing for.  I have it working in an application hackaround, but I expect it to be a bigger change than this one.18:19
fgintherSpacedOut, what application are you working on?18:20
fgintherjust curious18:20
SpacedOutIt's not known outside of the company.  This version of it I did the GUI in Qt5 except the 3D rendering part of it.  One of the problem I had with ubuntu-touch was that was running 5.0.1 and I was needing something closer to 5.1 since I was making use of the newer parts.  Somewhat fortunate because I needed to figure out how to compile Qt from source and qtubuntu, since it turned out I had to make changes there to allow the contexts to shar18:25
SpacedOute.18:25
SpacedOutI had the big demo at the beginning of May, and haven't heard anything.  It isn't targeted to consumers anyway.18:28
fgintherNice, good luck with it18:29
SpacedOutThanks, it is space related, and I read recently that the laptops on ISS are going to be switching over to Linux, Debian specifically.18:30
fgintherI'll recommend using autopilot if/when you need to test the UI :-)18:30
SpacedOutI've seen the packages, but haven't looked into it.  I'll have to keep that in mind.18:31
fgintherSpacedOut, it was nice chatting, but I have to take off for now. Please ping me again if you're having issues with your review.18:34
SpacedOutThanks, I'm glad things have worked out for you.18:34
JoseeAntonioRhey guys, anyone around?19:39
triunityHey everyone!  I am trying to install ubuntu touch on a Microsoft Pro tablet, however the instructions are all for android tablets.  Does anyone know how to create a Ubuntu Touch ISO?20:21
triunity(or did i just miss a download link)20:22
SpacedOuttriunity: I have no experience with that device, if you browse the web does anyone have a working android for that device?20:22
triunitySpaceOut: Not that i have seen20:23
triunitySpacedOut: Not that i have seen20:23
SpacedOutWhat kind of CPU?20:23
triunityIntel I520:24
JoseeAntonioRhey guys, ubuntu says that the device is not found, what can I do?20:24
JoseeAntonioRI'm connecting a nexus 7, got to unlock the bootloader before20:24
SpacedOutSounds like you would look at installing the normal Ubuntu then.  The tablet ubuntu-touch is targeting arm based systems with an Android kernel and ubuntu user space.  I saw a youtube video of someone running the ubuntu-touch interface on a desktop, mac actually, so you could look into that after you have the base ubuntu installed.20:25
SpacedOutJoseeAntonioR: Are you running the command as root?  I forget which part seemed to need that.20:26
JoseeAntonioRSpacedOut: hey, yep. I run sudo fastboot oem unlock, and then activated USB debugging on the device, then restarted the adb server and connected, and when connected it didn't get it20:27
JoseeAntonioRSpacedOut: like, it gets the device sometimes, but sometimes not, any idea on what may be happening?20:27
triunitySpacedOut:  With no offense to the Ubuntu Desktop crowd.  It really sucks on my Surface pro (I have ubuntu 12.04 on my desktop currently).  Maybe I can just look at installing the touch bits on top of the desktop install...20:29
SpacedOuttriunity: Which part, any chance you don't have hardware acceleration?20:30
triunityThe Virtual keyboard is to small to be functional, every application is designed around keyboard/mouse... and even the unity buttons are too small to be funtional on the tablet20:31
SpacedOutJoseeAntonioR: No I have the Nexus 10 and followed the instructions, except the part about how to recover from unlocking sitting a the Android boot logo, which is to delete the data partition.  Other than that I followed the instructions.20:32
JoseeAntonioRSpacedOut: I am doing too, but looks like my PC is not recognizing the device. any ideas20:32
SpacedOuttriunity: Those would be the issues that the ubuntu-touch is designed to solve, that is make things a reasonable size.  Just be warned that it still has the disclaimer that half of it is still just a mockup of what a final version might look like, ie it is a work in progress.20:34
netcurliJoseeAntonioR: what is the output of "adb devices"?20:34
JoseeAntonioRSpacedOut: adb get-state shows state unknown20:34
SpacedOutWhat's the state of the tablet?20:35
triunitySpacedOut:  I am glad we are on the same page.  I think I found the solution.  I can just add the PPA for touch to the tablet, and just install it like any other application.  I will see how that goes20:36
JoseeAntonioRnetcurli: none20:36
JoseeAntonioRSpacedOut: turned on and working20:36
SpacedOutBooted into android, what does it say for usb?20:37
JoseeAntonioRSpacedOut: hmm?20:38
JoseeAntonioR(and yep, booted into android)20:38
SpacedOutIf I remember the top left menu would say if it was connected with the picture to picture mode, or have a debug cloud or something.20:39
JoseeAntonioRoh, let me check (just got the device :) )20:39
JoseeAntonioRsays charging20:40
SpacedOutDo you have the debug menu in settings?20:40
JoseeAntonioRyep20:40
SpacedOutUnplug, power off, boot it up, and try again.  If usb debug is enabled there is an indicator there when it is plugged into a computer and active.20:42
SpacedOutI'm just guessing, other than the boot hang I followed the instructions and it has been a while now.20:43
* JoseeAntonioR too20:43
JoseeAntonioRSpacedOut: nope, it just says charging (usb)20:45
JoseeAntonioRSpacedOut: let me try rebooting my PC20:45
JoseeAntonioRSpacedOut: hey, the PC got to recognize it somehow, thanks a lot!20:52
SpacedOutGood to hear, report back when it is up and running.20:53
zjaceDoes anyone know about scroll for laptops with Touch screens20:56
zjace?20:56
swordfish_Hello everyone!... I'm trying to push a project to the launchpad but I'm struggling with the trunk. I can create any new branch but i cannot push to trunk. Any help would be much appreciated!  :)21:28
robruswordfish_, who owns trunk? You need to be a member of the owning team in order to push to trunk.21:34
JoseeAntonioRSpacedOut: ping21:43
JoseeAntonioRanyone knows about where the /sdcard/ directory is?21:44
bobweaverJoseeAntonioR, it is under media or mount or something like that22:35
JoseeAntonioRhey bobweaver, image is downloading now, doing it the auto way :)22:35
bobweavercool JoseeAntonioR  you got your n7 today ?22:36
bobweaverJoseeAntonioR,  I jsut got a nexus 422:36
JoseeAntonioRbobweaver: my godfather got one :)22:36
JoseeAntonioRoh, cool!22:36
bobweaverBut I am a little sad I think that there is no way to daul boot on the nexus 4 or at least nothing that I can find to woek22:37
bobweaverwork *22:37
JoseeAntonioRbobweaver: later on you think you can help me to get to multi-boot?22:37
bobweaverIE searching the xda forms22:37
bobweaverJoseeAntonioR,  sure22:37
JoseeAntonioRthanks a lot22:37
bobweaveryou have backed up the data that is on the device ?22:38
JoseeAntonioRbobweaver: it's actually brand new, so it had no data :)22:38
bobweavercool22:38
bobweaverso the first things that you are going to want to do is to down load the latest adt bundel on you host computer22:38
JoseeAntonioRadt?22:39
bobweaverJoseeAntonioR,  http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html22:39
JoseeAntonioRoh, I *think* i've got that22:40
bobweaverif you like it might help to make a dir like something called ~/Desktop/ADT22:40
bobweaverafter you download and un tar  the package cd sdk/platform-tools22:41
bobweaverJoseeAntonioR,  you have set up device in usb debuging ?22:42
bobweaverunder developer options22:42
JoseeAntonioRbobweaver: yep!22:44
bobweavercool JoseeAntonioR is device unlocked and rooted ?22:45
JoseeAntonioRbobweaver: I think unlocked via fastboot22:45
JoseeAntonioRand not sure about rooted22:45
bobweaverso you ran fastboot oem unlock then and that is where you are at ?22:49
JoseeAntonioRnope, I booted in android and now I did phablet-flash -b22:50
JoseeAntonioRI wanna see how it looks as ubuntu-only :)22:51
bobweaverahh22:51
JoseeAntonioRthen I wanna do the dual boot22:51
bobweaverso in that case you will have to re-install the stock image(firmware) from google and start from the top22:52
bobweaverI us super su to root device22:52
JoseeAntonioRok, I'll let you know when I'm there :)22:52
bobweaverhttp://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=f0a7f91912ae2b52e0700f73990eb321&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2018179&v=1&libId=cf2b8ba6-97fb-4d7e-b405-d85896856c18&out=http%3A%2F%2Fdownload.chainfire.eu%2F282%2FSuperSU%2F&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&title=%5BGuide%5D%20Ultimate%20Nexus%204%20Root%20Guide%20-%20xda-developers&txt=SuperSU&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_1369003971487622:52
JoseeAntonioRbobweaver: do I need to root it to go through the process?22:54
bobweaveryeah if you want to dual boot or at least I think that is key22:55
bobweaverJoseeAntonioR,  it has been like 2 months sense I last set up my n722:55
JoseeAntonioRlet me download that thingy22:55
bobweaverJoseeAntonioR,  I just kinda read three xda forums22:56
bobweaverhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=174139522:57
bobweaverhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=201140322:57
bobweaverhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38300214&postcount=10422:57
JoseeAntonioRbobweaver: you know if phablet-tools stores the temp data somewhere?22:59
bobweaverwhat kinda temp data ? like people lens and music and movies ?22:59
JoseeAntonioRnope, the images23:00
bobweaver /usr/share/qml-phone-shell is source qml code23:00
JoseeAntonioRoh wait just seen where it does23:00
JoseeAntonioRit's a wget :)23:00
* bobweaver is lost 23:01
JoseeAntonioRso, when doing phablet-flash -b23:01
JoseeAntonioRit downloads the images from cdimage.ubuntu.com23:01
JoseeAntonioRwhat it does is a wget blah blah blah23:02
JoseeAntonioRI wanted to know that path :)23:02
bobweaverOh for the images like what phablet-flash does23:02
JoseeAntonioRyep23:03
JoseeAntonioRalready found that :)23:04
bobweaveralright I found what I was looking for23:04
JoseeAntonioRbobweaver: how long should the push to /sdcard/ take?23:29
JoseeAntonioRoh, working now!23:35
JoseeAntonioRbobweaver: still around?23:47
JoseeAntonioRor anyone, how do I get to the keyboard?23:47

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