[09:26] <Bandysc> hi
[09:27] <Bandysc> Can someone tell me what the hell breakfast tool (mentioned in porting guide) is? I have installed all packages, added phablet-tools ppa, upgraded packages but I still do not have breakfast app...
[09:52] <user82> awd, were you the 3g guy?
[10:23] <awd> user82, nope.
[10:23] <user82> ok
[14:27] <kanttii> Anyone online?
[14:27] <ajalkane> I am, admittedly
[14:28] <kanttii> Ah, great :)
[14:30] <kanttii> I couldn't find any "good" info about Ubuntu Touch for Atom devices - do you know if it's possible to install it on them? I have VivoTab Smart, but apparently Atom Z2760 doesn't support 64bit OS or SLAT..
[14:30] <ajalkane> Sorry, no idea. I'm just waiting for dedicated Ubuntu Phone hardware.
[14:30] <kanttii> I've tried a few distros on USB, all 32bit, and obviously they won't even boot to the OS, but instead are forwarded to Windows 8.
[14:31] <kanttii> Yeah! Same here!
[14:31] <kanttii> I'd love to try it on an Atom tablet so I thought if anyone here had experience on that :)
[14:32] <kanttii> Gotta try a 64bit image though I doubt it works.. I read someone had built Arc from scratch adding the required EFI stuff, but the post was a few months old and the author doesn't seem to see PM's :D
[14:32] <kanttii> Do you know if the touch Unity can be installed on regular ubuntu desktop?
[14:34] <kanttii> Tuletko Jolla Love Day-tapahtumaan?
[14:36] <user82> kanttii, unity8 will be available in ubuntu 13.10 i think. at least optionally
[14:36] <kanttii> Awesome!
[14:37] <user82> kanttii, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/05/unity-8-mir-to-be-available-to-try-in-ubuntu-13-10
[14:37] <user82> i think it is the same unity as in touch
[14:37] <user82> not 100% sure
[14:39] <kanttii> @user82 - Oh man some news sites say it's coming with 14.04 -_- hope not.
[14:39] <kanttii> I'll check the daily build if there's anything yet!
[15:52] <swordfish> Hi everyone!... I'm a computer engineering student and i would like to help in the development of ubuntu touch. As a first test i with qml i made a minesweeper game. Now i want to share the code on the launchpad but i don't know how. Can someone give me an hand?
[16:06] <netcurli> swordfish: sure
[16:06] <netcurli> do you already have a launchpad account?
[16:07] <swordfish> yeah!... I also created the launchpad project and given the public ssh key
[16:08] <netcurli> and you have installed bzr on your computer
[16:08] <netcurli> ?
[16:09] <swordfish> yes...
[16:09] <netcurli> https://help.launchpad.net/Code/UploadingABranch
[16:09] <netcurli> so you just need to login with bzr and then upload
[16:13] <swordfish> yeah... I followed that steps before but i didnt had the ssh keys configured!... I think I'm on the right way thank you!...
[16:13] <netcurli> if you run into further problems, just ask again :)
[16:14] <swordfish> thank you again! :D
[17:00] <issty> hello
[17:00] <issty> what is direct download link for tuch
[17:54] <lm902> 。。。。。。
[17:55] <SpacedOut> fginther: I guess I'm confused on how things work.  I see your e-mail on lp:qtubuntu OpenGL context sharing, but all the other merge requests have the PS Jenkins bot review, even though no one else did any reviews.
[17:56] <fginther> SpacedOut, are you referring to all other reviews for qtubuntu? https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/qtubuntu/trunk/+activereviews
[17:58] <SpacedOut> Yes all the other merge requests has a jenkins bot review without any other reviews (other than the one I reviewed myself).
[17:59] <SpacedOut> Any suggestions on who would know the Qt5 platform abstraction to do a review?
[18:01] <fginther> SpacedOut, jenkins bot will automatically review MPs for Canonical employees, the other reviews I checked all originated from employees
[18:02] <fginther> SpacedOut, Mirv is a good qt expert, let me see if I can pull out a few more names
[18:02] <SpacedOut> That must be it then, thanks for the information.  I tried looking around for how things worked, but didn't find the details.
[18:03] <lm902> Anyone knows how can I flash ubuntu touch on galaxy tab 2 10.1 without a usb cable thanks.(cwm flashed) admin@lm902.com
[18:03] <fginther> SpacedOut, yeah, sorry about that. I don't think the process is documented on any of the wikis
[18:04] <fginther> SpacedOut, by the way, our paths have crossed before. I also worked at HP in RSN
[18:04] <SpacedOut> That has been a long time.
[18:06] <SpacedOut> Which state are you in these days?  (I have no idea where canonical is located).
[18:06] <fginther> SpacedOut, I live in IA, but work from home. The home office is in London
[18:07] <SpacedOut> I ended up not taking the HP offer after college and from those I did stay in contact with, the group I would have continued in was layedoff.
[18:11] <fginther> SpacedOut, I escaped the layoffs and worked there for a decade, then left while it was my decision
[18:12] <fginther> SpacedOut, there are a few more of us ex-HPers working on ubuntu
[18:13] <fginther> SpacedOut, regarding the review, if Mirv can't help, you can try ricmm or loicm. If they can't review, hopefully they can find someone who can.
[18:14] <SpacedOut> Good deal, I've been at my current job for a decade, in the aerospace industry, sometimes I get to work with Linux.  I picked up the Nexus 10 for the ubuntu-touch to see how the Qt5 application ran on it.  I have it working.
[18:15] <SpacedOut> I'm in Missouri, St Louis area.
[18:19] <SpacedOut> fginther: Thanks for the pointers.  If I get ambitious I'll look into the hidden window problem that I'm using as an extra context that I needed the sharing for.  I have it working in an application hackaround, but I expect it to be a bigger change than this one.
[18:20] <fginther> SpacedOut, what application are you working on?
[18:20] <fginther> just curious
[18:25] <SpacedOut> It's not known outside of the company.  This version of it I did the GUI in Qt5 except the 3D rendering part of it.  One of the problem I had with ubuntu-touch was that was running 5.0.1 and I was needing something closer to 5.1 since I was making use of the newer parts.  Somewhat fortunate because I needed to figure out how to compile Qt from source and qtubuntu, since it turned out I had to make changes there to allow the contexts to shar
[18:25] <SpacedOut> e.
[18:28] <SpacedOut> I had the big demo at the beginning of May, and haven't heard anything.  It isn't targeted to consumers anyway.
[18:29] <fginther> Nice, good luck with it
[18:30] <SpacedOut> Thanks, it is space related, and I read recently that the laptops on ISS are going to be switching over to Linux, Debian specifically.
[18:30] <fginther> I'll recommend using autopilot if/when you need to test the UI :-)
[18:31] <SpacedOut> I've seen the packages, but haven't looked into it.  I'll have to keep that in mind.
[18:34] <fginther> SpacedOut, it was nice chatting, but I have to take off for now. Please ping me again if you're having issues with your review.
[18:34] <SpacedOut> Thanks, I'm glad things have worked out for you.
[19:39] <JoseeAntonioR> hey guys, anyone around?
[20:21] <triunity> Hey everyone!  I am trying to install ubuntu touch on a Microsoft Pro tablet, however the instructions are all for android tablets.  Does anyone know how to create a Ubuntu Touch ISO?
[20:22] <triunity> (or did i just miss a download link)
[20:22] <SpacedOut> triunity: I have no experience with that device, if you browse the web does anyone have a working android for that device?
[20:23] <triunity> SpaceOut: Not that i have seen
[20:23] <triunity> SpacedOut: Not that i have seen
[20:23] <SpacedOut> What kind of CPU?
[20:24] <triunity> Intel I5
[20:24] <JoseeAntonioR> hey guys, ubuntu says that the device is not found, what can I do?
[20:24] <JoseeAntonioR> I'm connecting a nexus 7, got to unlock the bootloader before
[20:25] <SpacedOut> Sounds like you would look at installing the normal Ubuntu then.  The tablet ubuntu-touch is targeting arm based systems with an Android kernel and ubuntu user space.  I saw a youtube video of someone running the ubuntu-touch interface on a desktop, mac actually, so you could look into that after you have the base ubuntu installed.
[20:26] <SpacedOut> JoseeAntonioR: Are you running the command as root?  I forget which part seemed to need that.
[20:27] <JoseeAntonioR> SpacedOut: hey, yep. I run sudo fastboot oem unlock, and then activated USB debugging on the device, then restarted the adb server and connected, and when connected it didn't get it
[20:27] <JoseeAntonioR> SpacedOut: like, it gets the device sometimes, but sometimes not, any idea on what may be happening?
[20:29] <triunity> SpacedOut:  With no offense to the Ubuntu Desktop crowd.  It really sucks on my Surface pro (I have ubuntu 12.04 on my desktop currently).  Maybe I can just look at installing the touch bits on top of the desktop install...
[20:30] <SpacedOut> triunity: Which part, any chance you don't have hardware acceleration?
[20:31] <triunity> The Virtual keyboard is to small to be functional, every application is designed around keyboard/mouse... and even the unity buttons are too small to be funtional on the tablet
[20:32] <SpacedOut> JoseeAntonioR: No I have the Nexus 10 and followed the instructions, except the part about how to recover from unlocking sitting a the Android boot logo, which is to delete the data partition.  Other than that I followed the instructions.
[20:32] <JoseeAntonioR> SpacedOut: I am doing too, but looks like my PC is not recognizing the device. any ideas
[20:34] <SpacedOut> triunity: Those would be the issues that the ubuntu-touch is designed to solve, that is make things a reasonable size.  Just be warned that it still has the disclaimer that half of it is still just a mockup of what a final version might look like, ie it is a work in progress.
[20:34] <netcurli> JoseeAntonioR: what is the output of "adb devices"?
[20:34] <JoseeAntonioR> SpacedOut: adb get-state shows state unknown
[20:35] <SpacedOut> What's the state of the tablet?
[20:36] <triunity> SpacedOut:  I am glad we are on the same page.  I think I found the solution.  I can just add the PPA for touch to the tablet, and just install it like any other application.  I will see how that goes
[20:36] <JoseeAntonioR> netcurli: none
[20:36] <JoseeAntonioR> SpacedOut: turned on and working
[20:37] <SpacedOut> Booted into android, what does it say for usb?
[20:38] <JoseeAntonioR> SpacedOut: hmm?
[20:38] <JoseeAntonioR> (and yep, booted into android)
[20:39] <SpacedOut> If I remember the top left menu would say if it was connected with the picture to picture mode, or have a debug cloud or something.
[20:39] <JoseeAntonioR> oh, let me check (just got the device :) )
[20:40] <JoseeAntonioR> says charging
[20:40] <SpacedOut> Do you have the debug menu in settings?
[20:40] <JoseeAntonioR> yep
[20:42] <SpacedOut> Unplug, power off, boot it up, and try again.  If usb debug is enabled there is an indicator there when it is plugged into a computer and active.
[20:43] <SpacedOut> I'm just guessing, other than the boot hang I followed the instructions and it has been a while now.
[20:43]  * JoseeAntonioR too
[20:45] <JoseeAntonioR> SpacedOut: nope, it just says charging (usb)
[20:45] <JoseeAntonioR> SpacedOut: let me try rebooting my PC
[20:52] <JoseeAntonioR> SpacedOut: hey, the PC got to recognize it somehow, thanks a lot!
[20:53] <SpacedOut> Good to hear, report back when it is up and running.
[20:56] <zjace> Does anyone know about scroll for laptops with Touch screens
[20:56] <zjace> ?
[21:28] <swordfish_> Hello everyone!... I'm trying to push a project to the launchpad but I'm struggling with the trunk. I can create any new branch but i cannot push to trunk. Any help would be much appreciated!  :)
[21:34] <robru> swordfish_, who owns trunk? You need to be a member of the owning team in order to push to trunk.
[21:43] <JoseeAntonioR> SpacedOut: ping
[21:44] <JoseeAntonioR> anyone knows about where the /sdcard/ directory is?
[22:35] <bobweaver> JoseeAntonioR, it is under media or mount or something like that
[22:35] <JoseeAntonioR> hey bobweaver, image is downloading now, doing it the auto way :)
[22:36] <bobweaver> cool JoseeAntonioR  you got your n7 today ?
[22:36] <bobweaver> JoseeAntonioR,  I jsut got a nexus 4
[22:36] <JoseeAntonioR> bobweaver: my godfather got one :)
[22:36] <JoseeAntonioR> oh, cool!
[22:37] <bobweaver> But I am a little sad I think that there is no way to daul boot on the nexus 4 or at least nothing that I can find to woek
[22:37] <bobweaver> work *
[22:37] <JoseeAntonioR> bobweaver: later on you think you can help me to get to multi-boot?
[22:37] <bobweaver> IE searching the xda forms
[22:37] <bobweaver> JoseeAntonioR,  sure
[22:37] <JoseeAntonioR> thanks a lot
[22:38] <bobweaver> you have backed up the data that is on the device ?
[22:38] <JoseeAntonioR> bobweaver: it's actually brand new, so it had no data :)
[22:38] <bobweaver> cool
[22:38] <bobweaver> so the first things that you are going to want to do is to down load the latest adt bundel on you host computer
[22:39] <JoseeAntonioR> adt?
[22:39] <bobweaver> JoseeAntonioR,  http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
[22:40] <JoseeAntonioR> oh, I *think* i've got that
[22:40] <bobweaver> if you like it might help to make a dir like something called ~/Desktop/ADT
[22:41] <bobweaver> after you download and un tar  the package cd sdk/platform-tools
[22:42] <bobweaver> JoseeAntonioR,  you have set up device in usb debuging ?
[22:42] <bobweaver> under developer options
[22:44] <JoseeAntonioR> bobweaver: yep!
[22:45] <bobweaver> cool JoseeAntonioR is device unlocked and rooted ?
[22:45] <JoseeAntonioR> bobweaver: I think unlocked via fastboot
[22:45] <JoseeAntonioR> and not sure about rooted
[22:49] <bobweaver> so you ran fastboot oem unlock then and that is where you are at ?
[22:50] <JoseeAntonioR> nope, I booted in android and now I did phablet-flash -b
[22:51] <JoseeAntonioR> I wanna see how it looks as ubuntu-only :)
[22:51] <bobweaver> ahh
[22:51] <JoseeAntonioR> then I wanna do the dual boot
[22:52] <bobweaver> so in that case you will have to re-install the stock image(firmware) from google and start from the top
[22:52] <bobweaver> I us super su to root device
[22:52] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, I'll let you know when I'm there :)
[22:52] <bobweaver> http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=f0a7f91912ae2b52e0700f73990eb321&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2018179&v=1&libId=cf2b8ba6-97fb-4d7e-b405-d85896856c18&out=http%3A%2F%2Fdownload.chainfire.eu%2F282%2FSuperSU%2F&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&title=%5BGuide%5D%20Ultimate%20Nexus%204%20Root%20Guide%20-%20xda-developers&txt=SuperSU&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13690039714876
[22:54] <JoseeAntonioR> bobweaver: do I need to root it to go through the process?
[22:55] <bobweaver> yeah if you want to dual boot or at least I think that is key
[22:55] <bobweaver> JoseeAntonioR,  it has been like 2 months sense I last set up my n7
[22:55] <JoseeAntonioR> let me download that thingy
[22:56] <bobweaver> JoseeAntonioR,  I just kinda read three xda forums
[22:57] <bobweaver> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1741395
[22:57] <bobweaver> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403
[22:57] <bobweaver> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38300214&postcount=104
[22:59] <JoseeAntonioR> bobweaver: you know if phablet-tools stores the temp data somewhere?
[22:59] <bobweaver> what kinda temp data ? like people lens and music and movies ?
[23:00] <JoseeAntonioR> nope, the images
[23:00] <bobweaver>  /usr/share/qml-phone-shell is source qml code
[23:00] <JoseeAntonioR> oh wait just seen where it does
[23:00] <JoseeAntonioR> it's a wget :)
[23:01]  * bobweaver is lost 
[23:01] <JoseeAntonioR> so, when doing phablet-flash -b
[23:01] <JoseeAntonioR> it downloads the images from cdimage.ubuntu.com
[23:02] <JoseeAntonioR> what it does is a wget blah blah blah
[23:02] <JoseeAntonioR> I wanted to know that path :)
[23:02] <bobweaver> Oh for the images like what phablet-flash does
[23:03] <JoseeAntonioR> yep
[23:04] <JoseeAntonioR> already found that :)
[23:04] <bobweaver> alright I found what I was looking for
[23:29] <JoseeAntonioR> bobweaver: how long should the push to /sdcard/ take?
[23:35] <JoseeAntonioR> oh, working now!
[23:47] <JoseeAntonioR> bobweaver: still around?
[23:47] <JoseeAntonioR> or anyone, how do I get to the keyboard?