[00:00] <Ari-Yang> inv-, what card was it?
[00:00] <inv-> hd 4000 series
[00:01] <Ari-Yang> okay inv-, I'll keep this in mind, thanks for your help
[00:03] <upshoot> I've had a really annoying problem for a whlile now, and would love some pointers to help me troubleshoot it.   It I have a dual boot machine (Dell Studio 1745), in windows the USB devices are quire responsive.  On ubuntu, mouse and keyboard are very sluggish.  BUT touchpad works just like windows - immediate and no 'submarining of cursor as it move across the screen.  Is this fixable?  where to start?
[00:03] <linux> hi friends
[00:05] <linux> hi friends
[00:05] <seronis> ok getting netflix to work on xubuntu was easier than i thought it would be
[00:05] <seronis> wow
[00:06] <seronis> Hmm.. running out of things from windows to make sure I can still do
[00:06] <linux> i am trying to install australians mate
[00:06] <upshoot> seronis: what was the trick?  I have had no luck withh t that.. another reason why I dual boot my box.
[00:06] <linux> but even i didnt still install system , it asks me a passwort
[00:07] <Dr_willis> whats 'australians mate' ?
[00:07] <upshoot> seronis: using  a vm with windows for netflix?
[00:07] <seronis> upshoot    "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ehoover/compholio"    "sudo apt-get install netflix-desktop"
[00:07] <seronis> its a prepatched version of wine with silverlight preinstalled
[00:07] <Dr_willis> !netflix
[00:08] <seronis> i already tested it.  it ran netflix in fullscreen mode with no glitches
[00:08] <upshoot> sweet.  Good tip!
[00:08] <bazhang> !mintsupport | linux
[00:10] <upshoot> Now if only I could figure out why my usb devices suck on ubuntu... Try editing in VI with a lag and buffering keyboard.. and worse, when it starts to double up characters.  For now, using a bluetooth keyboard, so I can not go nuts.
[00:11] <upshoot> The one good thing about the sub-par mouse responsivness is I am getting better and keyboard commands to move windows, etc.
[00:13] <stumptree> #debian
[00:16] <[[thufir]]> ok, I found nmon to monitor bandwidth, and it's interesting.  However, I want to break it down more, so that I can see "oh, this website is using x bytes."   is that ntop?
[00:16] <elky> did you try ntop?
[00:17]  * elky can't remember how it works, but if i were in your position i'd install it and see what it did.
[00:17] <mish-> Hi! I really want the "latest" version of "fatrat" on Ubuntu Precise. Someone has compiled a version on launchpad, but it's missing the bittorrent support - https://launchpad.net/~alex-p/+archive/notesalexp-precise/+build/3972178 - looking at their rules file I can see that they've only enabled bittorrent during building for "Quantel", most likely because of a new libtorrent-rasterbar6.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can get f
[00:17] <mish-> atrat 1.2 on Ubuntu precise?
[00:18] <elky> mish-, try sending the packager a message and encouraging them to talk to MOTU
[00:18] <hugh45> hello out there
[00:19] <hugh45> need some help with a wireless setup
[00:20] <mish-> elky: Will do, in the meantime, any suggestions on getting a newer libtorrent-rasterbar6 on precise so I can compile fatrat-1.2?
[00:20] <Dr_willis> compile them from source. or find a ppa - would be the normal way
[00:21] <mish-> Dr_willis: I'm not having much luck finding a PPA, any tips on that front? - otherwise yes, I'll compile from source. :)
[00:21] <Dr_willis> !ppa
[00:21] <Dr_willis> theres the ppa-search site
[00:21] <elky> mish-, oh also i just reread your messages, what you want is called backporting. you'll probably want to compile libtorrent-rasterbar6 as well i guess
[00:21] <elky> as the doc said ;)
[00:23] <msdaisy> [[thufir]] you could try watch netstat -antp. That would give you the process IDs of each website which you could then find on ntop
[00:24] <userZ> how do I upgrade unetbootin on ubuntu 10.4
[00:24] <[[thufir]]> msdaisy: ah, thanks.  I'm trying to get ntop output, I forgot about netstat -- doh.
[00:24] <Dr_willis> userZ,  one way -> http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/UNetbootin/583/unetbootin-linux-583/download?use_mirror=hivelocity
[00:26] <[[thufir]]> msdaisy: can I get that netstat output so that for the foreign address in shows the DNS host, or something like that, rather than IP address.  To see where it's going.  or do I just have to figure that out otherwise?
[00:26] <userZ> Drwillis, which application to use to lauch it
[00:26] <userZ> launch
[00:26] <launch> userZ, what?:D
[00:27] <Dr_willis> userZ,  whats the file name it downloaded? if its an archive.. ectract it.. if its a binary.. chmod+x it and run it
[00:27] <upshoot> Looks like adding "pci=routeirq" to my grub boot may fix the issue.. I have to say, fixing this kind of issue feels more like reading a magic incantatiion than troubleshooting..I don't understand what the 'incantation' does, but I'll try it.  Not my favorite way to fly.
[00:27] <userZ> executable file
[00:29] <Dr_willis> theres dozens of alternatives to unetbootin at the pendrivelinux web site (and other sites)
[00:31] <nerio> how do I tunnel RSS feeds and use them optimally?
[00:31] <userZ> do you need windows to install pendrivelinux?
[00:31] <userZ> cuz im on ubuntu
[00:32] <Dr_willis> pendrivelinux is a we3b site that lists DOZENS of  tools for making 'pendrive' linux setups
[00:32] <Dr_willis> for differnt os's
[00:32] <Dr_willis> userZ,  what are you trying to make exactly?
[00:32] <userZ> bootable usb drive for newest version of ubuntu
[00:32] <userZ> unetbootin wont' finish the file installs
[00:33] <Dr_willis> userZ,  you can use 'dd' to image the iso file straight to a   usb flash drive if you wanted to.
[00:33] <[[thufir]]> is ntop crashing because it's an old version?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5678943/     ntop v.4.99.3 (32 bit)     and I've updated everything, I think.
[00:33] <userZ> Im on what is dd?
[00:33] <Dr_willis> or there should be tools at the pendrivelinux site to do it..
[00:33] <msdaisy>  [[thufir]] yes, cant remember the switch. Try -an. man netstat is your friend :)
[00:33] <Dr_willis> if you have to ask whats dd.. then its most likely best you dont try to use dd. ;)
[00:34] <echoe> dd is some disk thing that does disk stuff and you should totally randomly run dd commands on yoru conputer
[00:34] <Dr_willis> dd if=thecdrom.iso of=/dev/sdX   bs=4M                      (where sdX is the device of your usb)
[00:34] <userZ> typed it into man, nothing
[00:34] <echoe> man netstat should totally give stuff.
[00:34] <[[thufir]]> msdaisy:  a switch for ntop or netstat?  I like th sound of ntop...
[00:34] <Dr_willis> http://linux.die.net/man/1/dd
[00:34] <[[thufir]]> echoe: I'm trying to use ntop, which is giving errors.
[00:35] <userZ> uh
[00:35] <echoe> blugh where is my ubuntu machine.
[00:35] <echoe> hold on then.
[00:35] <ovidiu> hi. i have a problem in kubuntu. i'm trying to copy some music to an android phone and it starts MTP file transfer but i can only copy from the phone to PC not from PC to phone. how can I copy from PC to phone? (i don't have the setting to conect as mass storage, and i also tried usb debugging and it didn't work)
[00:36] <Dr_willis> ovidiu,  best thing i ever did to get android playing nicely was to start using 'airdroid' on android to transfer files..  makes things so much nicer. ;)
[00:36] <[[thufir]]> echoe: msdaisy gave me "netstat -antp" which is quite good, only not human readable.
[00:38] <[[thufir]]> netstat -pat gives the output I was after.  "watch netstat -pat" suffices :)      however, I'd rather use ntop, which sounds like it's more designed for what I want.
[00:39] <echoe> ahah
[00:39] <echoe> I was wondering why you thought netstat's output wasn't human readable.
[00:39] <full> Hi
[00:39] <BlackDalek> Does the iso image of the ubuntu install disc linked to at www.ubuntu.com/download ever get updated after t is first put up on the web page? i.e. - if I downloaded from there when it first came out, then downloaded it again today, would I be downloading the same identical file?
[00:40] <BlackDalek> after it*
[00:40] <echoe> ohh, bandwidth
[00:40]  * echoe scrolled up.
[00:40] <Dr_willis> BlackDalek,  if theres updated disk it get a .01 to its name.. like 12.04.1
[00:40] <Dr_willis> or was it .01
[00:40] <[[thufir]]> echoe: well, bytes/sec to foo.com  is the data I'm after.  "watch netstat -pat" is pretty close.
[00:41] <echoe> ntop looks like it's an old repo or something, have you tried installing it from ntop's repos?
[00:42] <echoe> they're updated daily. looks like there's a .deb file at nmon.net/packages/ubuntu/
[00:42] <[[thufir]]> no, I haven't .  I found the "c" for contionious swithc in netstat, so I'm wondering if I can get output beyond "connected" from it, a speed perhaps.
[00:43] <echoe> every time i use netstat i still need to read the man page. :P i saw msdaisy is back, perhaps she'll know?
[00:44] <msdaisy> echoe, [[thufir]] not off the top of my head. I'm positive what you want exists though.
[00:46] <[[thufir]]> it's interesting at least :)    netstat -patc         now, if only to add an "h" on there... LOL.
[00:46] <__gatsby__> hi guys ! can anyone let me know what are the students supposed to do in this period of gsoc before results ?
[00:46] <echoe> netstat -patv?i looked it up and google said -v but that totally didn't work
[00:46] <Dr_willis> no idea what you said __gatsby__  and its most liklely better for #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:50] <krys> anyone around that can help with a box that wont boot? it just restarts after the grub menu with no errors
[00:51] <joshtek0> How do I create a symbolic link?
[00:51] <joshtek0> With bash
[00:51] <[[thufir]]> thanks for the help, msdaisy and echoe.  It's enough for me to look into this further.
[00:51] <jordan4ibanez> Help: E: Unable to locate package usb-imagewriter
[00:52]  * echoe nods. good luck! if you find something, let me know at least would you?
[00:52] <Dr_willis> joshtek0,  ln -s foo bar    see 'man ls'
[00:52] <Dr_willis> oops  man ln '_)
[00:58] <seronis> Dr_willis, thanks for mentioning airdroid..  just tried it out and its weird being able to look at live video on my laptop from the phones camera (over wireless)
[00:59] <Dr_willis> seronis,  if  You got your phone rooted theres some other tools that can do more..  but airdroid seems to work great for me.
[00:59] <Left_Turn> hey what does ls -l * mean or do
[00:59] <Dr_willis> Left_Turn,  long file listing of all files.
[01:00] <Dr_willis> Left_Turn,  may be time to read a few bash beginner guides. ;)
[01:00] <Left_Turn> oh i see.. thanks Dr_willis
[01:00] <Left_Turn> yes:)
[01:01] <thecodeischaos> dr i have a strange lump on my special area. what should i do
[01:01] <Dr_willis> use a large hammer.
[01:02] <thecodeischaos> not a knife?
[01:02] <seronis> s/large/small
[01:02] <Dacvak> Is there any way to adjust the dpi of icons in kde?
[01:02] <Dacvak> I'm running kde on a chromebook Pixel, and everything is so damn small.
[01:02] <Dr_willis> Dacvak,  you mean the res is so high.. everything seems tiny? ;) what res is it using?
[01:02] <Dacvak> Like 2770x1800 or something
[01:03] <seronis> heh.. lower res, prob solved
[01:03] <Dacvak> Can't
[01:03] <Dacvak> There's no other option to lower the resolution.
[01:03] <Dacvak> That's the only one available. :(
[01:05] <Dacvak> Separate issue: I'd like to disable my touchpad while typing. Does anyone know how to do this in kde?
[01:05] <[[thufir]]> echoe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/297275/  I asked there.
[01:05] <[[thufir]]> msdaisy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/297275/   if you have any comments :)
[01:06] <mdfe> lowering the res on a TFT doesn't work that well, plus the pixel has a touchscreen
[01:07] <mdfe> Dacvak, unsually hardware is ahead of software, and OS/GUI designers need to wake up and fix for the new higher res screens  :(
[01:07] <Dacvak> mdfe: Yeah :(
[01:09] <mdfe> phones are 1920x1080 now, laptops are hititng 2900x1800 and still the UIs expect people to have 1024x768  so tiny icons and unreadable fonts
[01:09] <roddy> hello quick question
[01:09] <mdfe> it's just plain stupid
[01:09] <roddy> does this program let me chat with someone else that has this program
[01:09] <roddy> ?
[01:10] <mdfe> "this" program connects you to irc networks, of which freenode is one
[01:10] <seronis> mdfe, then petition for all UI art to be done in vector format so it doesnt need resized
[01:10] <Dr_willis> roddy,  what program?
[01:10] <Dr_willis> !irc
[01:10] <Dacvak> Can someone here help me install pip?
[01:11] <mdfe> seronis, well you can mostly get .svg icons for freedesktop now, but fonts are still broken and many programs dont' actally work proplery on those screens
[01:11] <Dr_willis> !info pip
[01:11] <mdfe> Dacvak, try #python
[01:11] <Dacvak> Okay.
[01:11] <mdfe> you mean python-pip?
[01:11] <Dacvak> Yeah
[01:11] <mdfe> !info python-pip
[01:12] <Dacvak> My end goal is to disable my touchpad while typing.
[01:12] <daemeon> Hey all. I tried to add a program to the unity bar and instead got empty icons? and now I cannot remove them. I can however move them about the unity bar
[01:12] <Dacvak> Which I think can be done with synaptiks
[01:12] <Dacvak> But if someone has an easier method, that would be super helpful.
[01:12] <mdfe> Dacvak, in the end i just learned to lift my wrists ... get less RSI too :)
[01:12] <Dacvak> Hahaha
[01:13] <mdfe> one of the downsides of the larger touchpads :)
[01:13] <Dacvak> Yeah, that'd be really difficult to train myself to do that with this Pixel.
[01:13] <erc_> guys, need support on microphone issue...can anyone help?
[01:13] <Dacvak> But I'm having trouble installing synaptiks, otherwise. :/
[01:13] <mdfe> Dacvak, it's the same size as a MBP, it's not impossible - apple guys can do it :-)
[01:13] <[deXter]>  Hi all, having random WiFi disconnection issues (de-authenticates after a while) about 2-3 times a day on 12.04, only fixable by rebooting the PC and/or router, tried multiple WiFi adapters and USB ports, other PCs running other OSes work fine; any ideas?
[01:14] <Dacvak> MBP disables the touchpad while typing, though
[01:14] <Dacvak> So it's not a problem
[01:14] <msdaisy> [[thufir]]: try iperf with watch. http://askubuntu.com/questions/104755/how-to-check-internet-speed-via-terminal
[01:14] <[[thufir]]> msdaisy: thanks, I'll look into that :)
[01:14] <geektech713> does ubuntu have sudo?
[01:14] <geektech713> speedtest.net would be faster
[01:15] <Dr_willis> !sudo
[01:15] <mdfe> Dacvak, my airbook never did that
[01:15] <erc_> guys, need support on microphone issue...can anyone help? (again)
[01:15] <daemeon> Anyone have any suggestions?
[01:16] <Prock81> i just did aptitude update and it said 61K~ new ... WOW, and i did an update earlyer today
[01:17] <Dr_willis> id try it with out aptitude..
[01:17] <Prock81> why is that
[01:17] <mdfe> that's probably new since aptitude was last loaded... not since your last update
[01:18] <Prock81> i allways do apt-get & aptitude together
[01:18] <mdfe> the first menu in aptitde has a thing to reset the new counter
[01:18] <Dr_willis> !aptitude
[01:18] <mdfe> why mix 2 though? aptitude has its own updater
[01:19] <mdfe> either use aptitude OR use apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[01:19] <Prock81> i dont know enough about them, i know aptitude better
[01:19] <mdfe> then use the updater in aptitude
[01:19] <Dr_willis> I suggest not using aptititude
[01:19] <mdfe> i think it's ctrl+T then the first menu
[01:19] <Prock81> i know search and install and there is one that will download all depend but not install
[01:20] <mdfe> i would only reall y use aptitude if i needed to do things like lock the version number of a package
[01:20] <mdfe> or if there was no X installed
[01:22] <bodom> Hi there! I'm in trouble with lm-sensors: it looks like any change i made to /etc/sensors3.conf makes no difference, any ideas?
[01:23] <Aspire-Revo-User> Can anybody tell me how to increase the frame rate of an mp4 in a video authoring suite like OpenShot or KdenLive? What I want to do is record my screen for about an hour but have it all play back in about 10 minutes.
[01:25] <Prock81> i would like to know the one app that can take a downloaded movie and have it ready for a standard dvd player
[01:25] <mdfe> hrm aptitude wants me to remove 3.4.0 kernel, however its what i am currently using ... i have 3.9 installed but not booted from
[01:25] <bazhang> !info devede | Prock81
[01:25] <kvothetech> Aspire-Revo-User: you should be able to do that with just ffmpeg
[01:25] <bodom> Aspire-Revo-User: unless you need some special quality, what you are trying to do is a time lapse video. I've never made one, but maybe googling for the term will lead you to the solution :)
[01:25] <Dr_willis> devede works well for me Prock81  its a little quirky to use.. but works well
[01:26] <kvothetech> mdfe: you can delete the kernel you're using it wont' hurt it.
[01:26] <kvothetech> mdfe: at least not until you reboot if you dont redo your boot loader
[01:26] <mdfe> kvothetech, Yes but there's a reason i'm on 3.4 :)
[01:26] <Prock81> ive tried devede, works great, but i run into lost of them where it dont seem to work well with the downloaded format
[01:26] <stapper> Does anyone know how to split an RAW .img file into seperate partitions?
[01:26] <Aspire-Revo-User>  what command do I run on ffmpeg to increase the playback rate of file.mp4
[01:27] <Aspire-Revo-User> Quality is not an issue
[01:27] <bodom> mdfe: do you manually modified your grub.conf?
[01:27] <mdfe> bodom, it's complicated, secure boot and chromeboo
[01:27] <mdfe> book*
[01:28] <Aspire-Revo-User> lets see what ffmpeg --help says
[01:28] <Dr_willis> Aspire-Revo-User,  or heck the ffmpeg or mencoder faq/doc sites
[01:28] <mdfe> I have the user space for Ubuntu 13.04 but the kernel from chromium OS 3.4.0 ... i could update the kernel but I cba to rebuild and resign
[01:28] <bodom> mdfe: then he probably just doesn't update it when you install a new kernel: the kernel is installed but never loaded because dpkg doesn't want to risk overwriting your manual changes in config
[01:28] <Prock81> ok what is the best video converter from any to any format?
[01:28] <Dr_willis> Prock81,  depends on what you are doing..
[01:28] <Aspire-Revo-User> Dr_willis: I will check their real quick
[01:28] <bodom> mdfe: you should get a warning when apt-get updating
[01:28] <bazhang> !best > Prock81
[01:28] <arcripex> Hi, any 1 help here see Failed to download package files Check your Internet connection. http://pastebin.com/ssCe3Bzu
[01:28] <Dr_willis> Prock81,  arista. winff,  avidemux, handbreak.
[01:28] <mdfe> mdfe, apt-get works fine, just aptitude being silly :P
[01:29] <mdfe> bodom, sorry that was meant for you
[01:29] <bodom> streeblek: mounto as loopback device then dd it again? I know it's not optimal solution, but i can't think a better one
[01:30] <userZ> just updated printer driver, hplip, and printer works, but ubuntu 10.04 now asks for user id and password on black screen at startup
[01:30] <bodom> mdfe: maybe you can take a backup copy of your /boot/grub and see what update-grub says
[01:30] <userZ> after 4 inputs it starts
[01:31] <userZ> how do I remove this user id/ password screen at startu[
[01:31] <userZ> p
[01:31] <mish-> Dr_willis: elky: Right, I managed to get all the prerequisites for "fatrat" installed and fatrat almost compiling, but it seems its very particular to the point that even with a few source code changes its more work than I want to put in.  Question - "Fatrat 1.2" is available on Quantel - is there a way to staticly compile it on Quantel for use on Precise?
[01:31] <mdfe> bodom, the machine works fine; i know how to change the kernel image (I rebuilt it once already for CIFS and Virtualbox) but its a lot of hassle
[01:32] <Dr_willis> mish-,  no idea on that. i rarely compile stuff these days
[01:32] <kasii> hello
[01:33] <bodom> mdfe: so i've not got what the problem is
[01:33] <kasii> am get troubled with ubuntu 13.04 it doesn't boot  again
[01:33] <mdfe> bodom, nothing - I was just commenting that aptitude is stupid and trying to break my system :) i use apt-get and it works fine though
[01:33] <mish-> Anyone - Is there a decent guide on how to statically compile something? :)
[01:34] <bodom> mdfe: lol :P
[01:34] <kasii> abruptly ubuntu 13.04 fails boot  again
[01:34] <bodom> kasii: hello, have you tried pushing the power button?
[01:35] <Prock81> would avidemux(GTK+) v.s. (Qt) make a difference
[01:35] <dopie> Hi there im having a problem with opening a program it keeps on opening another file when i open the program
[01:35] <kasii> bodom,  i hev tried several times but fails
[01:35] <mdfe> mish-, no such thing: did you mean statically link? :-)
[01:35] <bodom> kasii: do you get some error messages?
[01:35] <dopie> how do i remove this sudo sublime /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
[01:35] <dopie> this is the problem i having
[01:36] <kasii> yes bodom
[01:36] <dopie> everytime i type sluble it opens that defaults.list
[01:36] <Prock81> sudo rm /usr/share/applications/defaults.list ???
[01:36] <mish-> mdfe: What I guess I"m trying to do is to compile "fatrat" on Quantal and statically link it, then copy the compiled binary over to Precise, is that even do-able?
[01:36] <kasii> bodom,  yes erreos appears
[01:36] <bodom> kasii: and what does it say?
[01:37] <dopie> sweet thanks!
[01:37] <Prock81> thanks to who
[01:37] <dopie> Prock81, to you
[01:37] <dopie> :)
[01:37] <kasii> bodom, it says system  fails to boot
[01:37] <Prock81> your welcome
[01:38] <dopie> your'e
[01:38] <mamece2> hello guys, How can i boot ubuntu forcing it to recognizemy IDE drive ? i have a "Sata link down" message and it stops the booting
[01:38] <bodom> kasii: nothing else?
[01:39] <mdfe> mish-, Not sure, but you can build on a Precise VM
[01:39] <kasii> yes bodom
[01:39] <arcripex> help! after updating my linux now asks for user id and password on black screen at startup...and putting login details nothing happens it what could be the problem?
[01:39] <kasii> bodom, yes thats all
[01:39] <bodom> kasii: I'm sorry, that's too few information for me to help you
[01:39] <SnapSnap> I'm running 13.04. When I try to install the package google-chrome-stable I get an error saying "Dependency is not satisfiable: libudev0 (>=147). What does that mean?
[01:39] <mish-> mdfe: The issue is that the versions of the libraries that fatrat uses aren't available in precise.
[01:40] <userZ> I've run into bug #589520 in ubuntu 10.04, any solutions?
[01:40] <Prock81> mamece2 is it an internal or external drive
[01:40] <gustav___> Any one up for helping me with dovecot?
[01:40] <kasii> bodom, is there any  command  so that i can run thri=ough the terminal and see the output
[01:41] <mamece2> Prock81: internal, i have an IDE drive, so i dont care about that SATA chekc
[01:41] <Prock81> mamece2 and what is presenting the "Sata link down" message?
[01:41] <mdfe> mish-, you can install multiple library versions
[01:41] <mdfe> mish-, for example in a chroot, or just in your main install
[01:41] <bodom> kasii: do you ever get the ubuntu slash screen? Ot it hangs before?
[01:42] <arcripex> help! after updating my linux now asks for user id and password on black screen at startup...and putting login details nothing happens it what could be the problem?
[01:42] <Prock81> do u know that it has correct partitions
[01:42] <Loshki> mish-: might work, might not. Can't you compile fatrat on Precise?
[01:42] <mamece2> Prock81: I dont know, Ive got SATA link down 1.5 Gbps (sstatus 0 scontrol 300)
[01:43] <kasii> i get pop up window  only
[01:43] <kasii> bodom, i get pop up window  only
[01:43] <Prock81> gparted is the easyer way to work with partitions
[01:43] <Prock81> so are you wanting to use that drive for a bootable install
[01:44] <mish-> Loshki: That's where I'm lost, "Fatrat 1.2" required a lot libboost, libtorrent-rasterbar-dev and libpion-dev that aren't available on Precise.  I tried a few alternate deb packages but the versions had differences that meant it wouldn't compile, function names, etc.
[01:45] <bodom> kasii: pop-up window? So you press the power button, and, before everything, you get that pop-up?
[01:45] <Prock81>  mamece2 what does #cat /proc/partitions say
[01:45] <mamece2> Prock81: i cant boot, i just get to that line and it stops
[01:46] <Prock81> so thats the only drive in hte machine?
[01:46] <kasii> bodom,  let restart ma  pc the am gonna show you  exactly  responding
[01:46] <Dr_willis> userZ,  you are using an SiS video card?
[01:47] <SnapSnap> I'm running 13.04. When I try to install the package google-chrome-stable I get an error saying "Dependency is not satisfiable: libudev0 (>=147). What does that mean?
[01:47] <kasii> bodom, after  pressing power button it loads  for while then  it gives error msg
[01:47] <Dr_willis> SnapSnap,  theres a known bug about that package.  I think theres some work arounds mentioned on askubuntu.com
[01:47] <Prock81>  mamece2 i will /msg you
[01:48] <SnapSnap> Dr_willis, thanks :)
[01:48] <Dr_willis> SnapSnap,  http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/fix-google-chrome-cant-be-installed-in.html
[01:49] <aaa801> I am unable to mount a usb3 drive formatted exFAT 64gb, with a unknown partition table error , works fine under windows, any help?
[01:49] <Loshki> mish-: sorry, I know of no magic that will make it easier. Binaries built on earlier releases tend to be runnable on later ones, if they're not too far apart, but what you want to do is so unsupported it's not funny...
[01:50] <bodom> kasii: that could just be an MBR issue. Try booting from the install CD/DVD. Once you get to the Ubuntu boot menu, tell it to boot from HD instead
[01:50] <bodom> kasii: If it doesn't work, you could also try this tool: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:50] <mish-> Yeah, I either need to upgrade to Quantel or find a download manager that (1) Supports torrents and HTTP files, (2) Has a web interface, (3) Supports scheduling.  "Fatrat" was the only one I found that ticks all three of those boxes.
[01:50] <mish-> If anyone has any thoughts on another application that can do the above, let me know.
[01:51] <bodom> kasii: If it keeps not working, i think you'll need to have it checked, because it's very hard to diagnose boot problems via chat
[01:51] <kasii> bodom, may that boot repair
[01:51] <Chiko> I just did an update and it was asking if it should use the new "my.cnf" or not i wanted to see the difference now i'm not sure how to get back and tell it to not make any changes
[01:51] <Chiko> how do i escape?
[01:52] <kasii> bodom, but diagnosis  via terminal its easier
[01:52] <userZ> is it possible to get a logitech webcam to work in ubuntu?
[01:52] <Dr_willis> Chiko,  try 'q'
[01:52] <Dr_willis> if its showing the changes in less/more
[01:52] <Chiko> thanks
[01:53] <jrib> userZ: plug it in, done (usually)
[01:53] <Chiko> haven't played around with chance just nano~
[01:53] <kasii> bodom,  cant repair with the media  have now usb pendrive
[01:53] <userZ> jrib nope
[01:53] <Dr_willis> more/less is the default text 'pager' reader for most linux type disros. ;)
[01:53] <Dr_willis> it has a LOT of features.
[01:54] <jrib> userZ: I'd suggest mentioning the model, dmesg output when you plugged it in, and what you're seeing in cheese
[01:54] <bodom> kasii: you'll need it
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> userZ, I have one that works, have you installed cheese?
[01:54] <dopie> hey all how do i give myself write access to /opt/ folder?
[01:54] <userZ> havent installed cheese
[01:54] <Dr_willis> dopie,  for system directories like that. you want to use sudo as needed
[01:54] <userZ> dont know the model
[01:54] <usr13> dopie: Why?
[01:54] <usr13> dopie: suod
[01:55] <Aspire-Revo-User> Will File Roller allow me to edit the contents of an ISO and save the files i place in their with out destroying the ISO's boot record?
[01:55] <dopie> got it
[01:55] <usr13> dopie: sudo
[01:55] <usr13> dopie: What is your end goal?
[01:55] <upshoot> Got my slow mouse and keyboard stuff sorted out!  Man I'm glad I finally had time to dig around and sort it out.  Needed to set some boot parameters (pci=routirq irqpoll)
[01:55] <upshoot> Now I'm happy as a clam.
[01:55] <kasii> bodom,  i need to know the steps  of repairing with  pendrive  i have
[01:55] <dopie> i want to remove a dir in /opt/
[01:55] <bodom> dopie: as root, you can change the group of it to match your user's group, but it's not adviced to do so
[01:56] <usr13> dopie: Okeydokey
[01:56] <Dr_willis> dopie,  so do it via the cli with the proper sudo rm   command
[01:56] <upshoot> The other excellent tweak I ran across was to replace capslock with escape functionality, which really rocks. (CapsLock is basically useless, but esc is used all the time for vi.)
[01:56] <roddy> question how can i make a new server so that a friend of mine and me join only?
[01:56] <bodom> kasii: you cna follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:56] <Dr_willis> roddy,  you can make a new CHANNEL here. easially enough,...    /join #makeachannelname
[01:57] <kasii> okay bodom
[01:57] <Dr_willis> roddy,  no need for you to run your own irc server
[01:57] <roddy> awesome thanks
[01:57] <usr13> roddy: Create users for yourself and your friend.
[01:57] <userZ> cheese worked..yes...thanks
[01:57] <upshoot> Tip:  to change your useless capslock, system settings => keyboard layout => options -> CapsLock key behavior.  Really nice to stay near the home row. :-)
[01:57] <bodom> kasii: good luck :)
[01:57] <userZ> printer installed, webcam installed...ubuntu is functional
[01:58] <Dr_willis> userZ,  You are using 10.04 ?
[01:58] <userZ> yes
[01:58] <kasii> okay
[01:58] <Dr_willis> userZ,  to bad that release is  basically end of life for desktop support...
[01:58] <Chiko> It appears iptables does not have any type of config file so on every reboot i must re-enter in all the information that i want it to have is that correct?
[01:58] <userZ> DrWillis, I needed a distro that fit on a cd
[01:58] <Chiko> if so is there any reason for this is it to prevent accidently blocking your self out from the system?
[01:59] <Dr_willis> userZ,  Lubuntu 12.04 i think fits on a cd.
[01:59] <userZ> does it start quick?
[01:59] <Dr_willis> i have no idea what you mean by 'start quick'
[02:00] <userZ> 30 seconds
[02:00] <Dr_willis> 13.04 boots up here in under 15 sec on my SSD system.
[02:00] <jrib> Chiko: why would you re-enter information manually?
[02:00] <Dr_willis> when i get 4+ weeks uptime.. i dont worry about 1-2 min boot times...
[02:00] <roddy> usr13, how?
[02:00] <Chiko> jrib: I'm not i'm saying on reboot the information is lost so i assume it's not saving it and so i would need to re-add it on boot?
[02:00] <userZ> is there a list of all previous versions that fit on cd?
[02:01] <jrib> Chiko: if that's what you want to do.  Most people do not do that.
[02:01] <Dr_willis> userZ,  they all did.. up intull 12.10 Ubuntu
[02:01] <Dr_willis> userZ,  and i think 12.10 Lubuntu might still fit on cd.
[02:01] <Chiko> jrib: I don't want to i'm asking for help on how it should be done
[02:01] <jrib> !iptables | Chiko
[02:01] <userZ> ok probably upgrade
[02:01] <dopie> usr13, Dr_willis, bodom thank you
[02:01] <usr13> roddy: adduser  But, what exactly do you want to do with this "server"?
[02:02] <Dr_willis> userZ,   may be better to do a clean reinstall oif a newer release.. I dont see why theres a 'cd' limit for you..  system cant boot from USB?
[02:02] <bodom> dopie: yw
[02:02] <dopie> Bodom how do change the group of it to match your users group
[02:02] <roddy> usr13, just a chat server to chat
[02:02] <dopie> chmod  -yw /opt
[02:02] <Jawmare> How do I disable the spyware in my ubuntu?
[02:03] <jrib> Jawmare: there is no spyware...
[02:03] <Dr_willis> Jawmare,  there is no spyware.. unless you installed somthing
[02:03] <Chiko> ubottu: thanks but i'm still confused on the matter of iptables i applied a block "iptables -A INPUT -s {ip} -j DROP" yet if i reboot this information is gone must i use ufw to add the rule instead?
[02:03] <Dr_willis> !adlens
[02:03] <bodom> dopie: sudo chgrp <your_user_name> /opt
[02:03] <Chiko> jrib: thanks but i'm still confused on the matter of iptables i applied a block "iptables -A INPUT -s {ip} -j DROP" yet if i reboot this information is gone must i use ufw to add the rule instead?
[02:03] <userZ> drwillis, unetbootin should install newer versions properly on usb?
[02:03] <jrib> Chiko: read the link ubottu gave you.  There are several options there if you want iptables rules to be set automatically
[02:03] <userZ> cuz sometimes it hangs and doesnt
[02:03] <jrib> Chiko: if you don't want to use ufw, read the iptables link
[02:03] <Dr_willis> userZ,  no idea. i rarely use unetbootin.  I tend to use 'dd' to image the iso files to usb  or the tools from the pendrivelinux web site
[02:04] <usr13> Chiko: You need to create a "firewall" script.
[02:04] <Dr_willis> userZ,  you may need a newer unetbootin for newer releases
[02:04] <bodom> dopie: and maybe sudo chmod g+rwx /opt too
[02:04] <roddy> usr13, or can i use something else
[02:04] <userZ> drwillis, that's why I was asking how to upgrade unetbootin earlier
[02:04] <usr13> roddy: Yep
[02:04] <userZ> got the sourceforge exe file, but don't know what to do with it in linux
[02:05] <dopie> trying the first one first
[02:05] <Dr_willis> userZ,  .exe ? that would be a windows file..
[02:05] <Dr_willis> userZ,  or just learn to use dd
[02:05] <userZ> I looked at dd, not for me
[02:05] <Dr_willis> its rather trivial once you learn the basics..
[02:05] <Dr_willis> input , output. block side option for speed...
[02:06] <roddy> usr13, what can i use then or is that what u didnt mean with yep
[02:08] <usr13> roddy: Maybe:  http://www.linuxtoday.com/upload/how-to-setup-chat-server-using-openfire-3.7.1-in-ubuntu-server-12.10-130122025004.html
[02:09] <userZ> downloading the unetbootin bin file now
[02:09] <shady_> ubuntu 13.04 voice input problem
[02:10] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/59551/how-to-burn-iso-to-usb-device  userZ
[02:10] <roddy> usr13, thanks
[02:11] <roddy> adduser
[02:12] <kasii> bodom, the error msg  it tell me that your system i s running in low graphics mode
[02:13] <bodom> kasii: then it's now booted, at least
[02:13] <lck> who know how do a server use ubuntu?
[02:13] <kasii> nop doesnt boot bodom
[02:14] <Dr_willis> lck,  what?
[02:14] <shady_> ubuntu 13.04 voice input problem in Dell inspiron
[02:16] <lck> Making only a open fixed browser system
[02:16] <shady_> ubuntu 13.04 voice input problem in Dell inspiron
[02:17] <Dr_willis> !info djmount
[02:18] <lck> As the firefox only can open a website has set, can't open other any web
[02:20] <Dr_willis> lck,  sounds like you need some locked down/koisk extensions for your browser
[02:22] <userZ> drwillis, how do you unmount a usb drive?
[02:22] <userZ> I put the iso in the home folder
[02:22] <Dr_willis> umount /dev/sdX   userZ
[02:23] <Dr_willis> or 'sudo umount /media/themountpoint'
[02:23] <Loden_> what are some things I can do to compiz to not have 40% cpu usage? Also, unity seems laggy but I have an ssd and anice comp
[02:23] <Dr_willis> the mount command will say where its mounted userZ
[02:23] <Dr_willis> Loden_,  what video card and drivers?
[02:24] <Loden_> free drivers and 7850
[02:24]  * Dr_willis has to guess thats some ATI/AMD card...   You may get much better prformance with the fglrx drivers
[02:25] <Loden_> ok
[02:25] <Loden_> thank you
[02:25] <lck> firewall maybe is usefull
[02:25] <Loden_> I h ear some people say I shouldn't use unity but should use something else?
[02:25] <Loden_> Is that better for not wasting resources?
[02:25] <Dr_willis> use whatever you want ..
[02:25] <Dr_willis> Lubuntu and Xubuntu are lighter on resources
[02:26] <Dr_willis> but i bet your browser session will be sucking down more resources then you will be saveing
[02:26] <Dr_willis> ;)
[02:26] <lck> but I can't carryout it!
[02:26] <Loden_> Thank you for the tips
[02:26] <Loden_> anything I should try to learn more about ubuntu?
[02:26] <Dr_willis> !manual
[02:27] <Loden_> is that for 13.04?
[02:27] <root> hello @ all!!
[02:28] <kasii> bodom,
[02:28] <kasii> bodom, does the one am repair a  media or  a hdd
[02:28] <Dr_willis> look and see.. i rarely need to refer to the beginners guides. ;)
[02:29] <bodom> kasii: what do you mean?
[02:29] <kasii> bodom, the repair i make it for the  pendrive or the  hard drive
[02:30] <yofun> how can i search for "Failed launched: No such file or directory" in *.log files in ssh?
[02:30] <bodom> kasii: you have to start it from a pen drive or CD drive, since your system is not booting
[02:31] <lck> 怎么全是英文？
[02:32] <Dr_willis> yofun,  use grep on the proper files  in /var/log perhaps
[02:32] <yofun> Dr_willis:  syntx?
[02:33] <Sach> How do I reduce a PDF file size in ubuntu 12.04?
[02:33] <Dr_willis> grep foo bar
[02:33] <usr13> Sach: gimp
[02:33] <Dr_willis> see man grep  for how to use grep. or the 1000000+ grep tutorials online
[02:33] <usr13> Sach: gimp / imagemagic
[02:33] <kasii> bodom, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5679155/
[02:34] <Sach> usr13: no pdf softwareequivalent to adobe acrobat writer?
[02:35] <usr13> Sach: Open the file with gimp, size it down to 8 1/2" x 11", save as jpg   convert file.jpg file.pdf
[02:35] <bodom> kasii: oh, you have a multiboot. Does Windows starts?
[02:35] <Sach> usr13: can that be dne for an entire pdf document or page by page only?
[02:35] <usr13> Sach: What I do is just set simplescan to scan the proper size and just use it.
[02:36] <usr13> Sach: You'll have to do it page by page and then re-combine them
[02:36] <Sach> usr13: sounds tedious for a long document.  I'm looking for a pdf writer that can do this in ubuntu...
[02:36] <usr13> Sach: install pdftk for that.
[02:37] <kasii> bodom i don hve it
[02:37] <usr13> Sach: Yea, sounds tedious to me too.
[02:37] <usr13> Sach: Sounds to me like a mistake was made when creating the pdf files too large in the first place.
[02:38] <Dr_willis> the pdf FILE is to large? or is the pdf output too large?
[02:38] <bodom> kasii: that's what the text you pasted to us says
[02:38] <Sach> Dr_willis: the pdf file size is too large.
[02:38] <usr13> Sach: It's easier to do things right the first time.
[02:38] <Dr_willis> how big is  the pdf file?  if its loads and loads of text.. it may  not be a good idea to do the jpg stuff with it
[02:39] <kasii> bodom, j get this error  The sda2 (Ubuntu 13.04) partition is still full. This can prevent to start it (e.g. you may get a Power Manager error).
[02:39] <Sach> Dr_willis: yes, lots of text.
[02:39] <usr13> Dr_willis: Same difference.  Many apps will create a pdf file from a large file and it turns out to be the right size but way bigger in file size.
[02:39] <Prock81> everyone i got mamece2 going by disable sata in bios, but now he say its taking for ever, and he/she only has 512 mb of ram, how long would it take to get past hte casper stage on an older machine
[02:39] <Dr_willis> if its all text.. there are pdf to other things converteres out..
[02:40] <usr13> Dr_willis: That is why I mentioned setting up simplescan to scan proper size in the first place>
[02:40] <Dr_willis> about the only thing i mess with pdf with is caliabre for my E-books
[02:40] <Sach> usr13: you seem to be jumping to a conclusion in assuming that it wasnt done right the first time.  it's text, not images.  difficult to type "incorrectly the first time", dont you think?
[02:40] <Dr_willis> if he scanned it.. then it would be all images wouldent it? thats why a lot of text became a HUGE bunch of image files. ;)
[02:40] <samgabbay> hi guys im having an issue with rythmbox and my ipod
[02:40] <Dr_willis> scaning as an image.. vs scanning as and doing 'ocr'
[02:41] <samgabbay> someone please help me this is super annoying
[02:41] <samgabbay> anyone?
[02:41] <Dr_willis> samgabbay,  give the channel details.
[02:41] <Dr_willis> not asking  'help' over and over...
[02:41] <samgabbay> alright so here it is
[02:41] <bodom> kasii: mhhh didn't notice
[02:41] <usr13> Sach: You did not tell me how the file was created. I can only tell you what needs to be done.  I can not figure out how it got messed up.
[02:41] <usr13> unless you tell me.
[02:42] <bodom> kasii: it's easy then: boot from the install/live cd and delete some files you don't need
[02:42] <samgabbay> i plugged in my ipod and then it says that the metadata was missing or corrupted asking me to name my ipod so i did and then it dissapears from the rythmbox device list
[02:42] <usr13> Sach: But if it is a pdf file, it is NOT text.  (pdf files are images, not text.)
[02:42] <kasii> bodom, it restrict me  to perfom such operation
[02:43] <samgabbay> can anyone assist me with that issue?
[02:43] <bodom> kasii: ???
[02:43] <usr13> Sach: If you give us specific details, we can give you more specific advise.
[02:44] <samgabbay> i did
[02:44] <samgabbay> 0.o
[02:44] <samgabbay> will it work with amrok or something cuz i have to sink my ipod
[02:44] <kasii> bodom, it restrict me  to perfom such operation of deleting  and when am opening my home folder You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of  "kasii"
[02:44] <samgabbay> :/
[02:45] <samgabbay> anyone?
[02:46] <kasii> samgabbay, yes i have a probllem
[02:46] <usr13> Sach: You went through some method to convert the document to a PDF file, you did not tell us what that method was.  If the PDF is wrong size or too large, I can only speculate that an improper method was used.  If you give us additional information, we can give you better, more specific advise.
[02:46] <samgabbay> im talking about mine :/
[02:46] <Senor> after I install mysql ,is its headers file installed together?
[02:46] <bodom> uhm
[02:46] <bodom> kasii: uhm, what's the software you are using to view your home folder?
[02:47] <samgabbay> i guesss no one can help me with my problem that im currrently stuggling with
[02:48] <samgabbay> can anyone help before i leave the channel?
[02:48] <bodom> kasii: open a terminal and type in "sudo nautilus", without quotes
[02:48] <BrainWash82> I have dreamstudio installed and when I let my machine idle long enough it will go back to the blank screen and if I hit a key I am back in the login screen but I cannot type or click on anything and I have to reboot.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[02:48] <bodom> kasii: the window tha should open will let you delete anything (so be careful)
[02:49] <kasii> bodom,  no software rather than clicking
[02:49] <Dr_willis> samgabbay,  have some patience.. not everyone uses ipods
[02:49] <Dr_willis> samgabbay,  and there is the forums and askubuntu.com you can check while you wait
[02:50] <Dr_willis> BrainWash82,  perhaps set the  system where it dosent lock on screen-saver/or go into standby mode.  but thats a bit of a cludge
[02:51] <kasii> bodom command not found
[02:51] <BrainWash82> Yeah, it sounds like a super simple problem but it has rendered my machine completely stupid.
[02:52] <bodom> Guys, what's the default file manager in the ubuntu 13.04 live CD?
[02:52] <usr13> nautilus
[02:53] <mackdieselx27> Nautilus
[02:53] <dashdotdam0> 12.04 lts doesnt come with newer gnome 3 does it?
[02:53] <mackdieselx27> 12.04 comes with Unity
[02:53] <bodom> kasii: it should
[02:53] <bodom> kasii: sudo nautilus
[02:54] <bodom> usr13, mackdieselx27: ty
[02:54] <mackdieselx27> np bodom
[02:54] <Dr_willis> unity is a shell for gnome3
[02:54] <surfdaemon> bodom: don't you mean gksudo?
[02:55] <kasii> bodom,  see my dialog msg of sudo nautilius
[02:55] <Dr_willis> the latest gnome3 is 3.8 i belive. and i think you must have 13.04 to use gnome 3.8 unless theres been some new ppas out for older releases
[02:55] <Dr_willis> use gksudo nautilus if you really HAVE to run nautilus as root.. not 'sudo'
[02:56] <bodom> surfdaemon: it's the same
[02:56] <bodom> kasii: ok, go with gksudo
[02:56] <bodom> kasii: gksudo nautilus
[02:56] <Dr_willis> gksudo and sudo are not the same
[02:56] <surfdaemon> It was probably Dr_willis that put me on the right track with that one.
[02:57] <mackdieselx27> gksudo prevents files in your home from becoming owned by root
[02:57] <Dr_willis> i see a lot of people in  here with issues of root permissions on home files. when using sudo improperly
[02:58] <Dr_willis> if i must run a file manager as root.. i tend to use 'mc' in a terminal.. that way i dont accidnetly leave a rootrunning nautilus open
[02:58] <dem0n> how is everyone doing?...
[02:58] <kasii> bodom, still You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of “kasii”.
[03:00] <mackdieselx27> This explains how to properly use sudo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Usage
[03:00] <erpo> I'm using an encrypted home directory. I know /home/.ecryptfs/erpo/.Private/ECRYPTFS_FNEK_ENCRYPTED.FWagF415R.....blahblahblha...CtNE--) is using a bad block on the hard disk. How do I figure out that file's decrypted name?
[03:00] <kirkland> erpo: http://manpg.es/ecryptfs-find
[03:00] <bodom> kasii: did you typed that command in a terminal windows, and did it open a new "nautilus" file manager window?
[03:01] <kasii> bodom, yes it opens but no content
[03:02] <vishwanath> hi every one when i use "apt-get update" i get this output  "E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[03:02] <vishwanath> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[03:02] <vishwanath> "    what should i do?
[03:02] <bodom> kasii: can't you change folde rin it?
[03:03] <bodom> vishwanath: paste us the content of that file
[03:03] <bodom> vishwanath: using pastebin or similar tool
[03:03] <vishwanath> ok
[03:04] <vishwanath> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal-proposed
[03:04] <kasii> bodom, to change the folder it what do u meand
[03:04] <kasii> bodom, to change the folder it what do u mean
[03:04] <netrjay45> ubiquity crashed while I was installing, and now my /boot directory on my new system is blank, but the rest of the system is there. What commands can I use to manually setup /boot?
[03:05] <bodom> kasii: the goal is to browse your folder as root and delete the files you don't need.
[03:06] <kasii> bodom,  how can i acomplish that
[03:07] <bodom> kasii: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+question/15239
[03:08] <bodom> vishwanath: which release of ubuntu are you using?
[03:09] <erpo> kirkland: Did the trick! Thanks. :)
[03:09] <kirkland> erpo: no problem
[03:10] <bodom> vishwanath: ok, you can safely delete that line
[03:11] <kasii> bodom, when am root  it open the account this media which am i booting
[03:12] <kasii> bodom, when am root  it open the account this media which am i booting
[03:13] <[[thufir]]>  I have flashgot set to use wget and curl, and it keeps downloading even after I've restarted.  how do I stop it?  or, is it with wget?
[03:15] <bodom> kasii: i'm sorry: the sudo / gksudo nautilus tricks usually works for everyone
[03:16] <Dacvak> Hey guys. Could someone help me get Netflix running on Ubuntu?
[03:16] <bodom> kasii: got to go now
[03:16] <bodom> bye everybody
[03:16] <Dacvak> I tried installing netflix-desktop, but I'm getting an error upon trying to launch it.
[03:16] <kasii> mine i know how to root is using this command sudo su
[03:17] <Dacvak> Something about MS true type fonts missing.
[03:22] <Guest21329> hi
[03:24] <kasii> bodom, ecryptfs-mount-private it tell me that
[03:24] <Dr_willis> !netflix
[03:26] <Guest21329> les floods vs parlez french
[03:27] <Dr_willis> !fr
[03:29] <[[thufir]]> help, I have duplicate movie downloads (hunger games) over and over.  I've remove flashgot, but it handed the download off to curl.  I've even restarted.  how do I kill forever the process spawning the download?
[03:31] <Dr_willis> remove the flashgot settings/cache perhaps
[03:31] <Dr_willis> if its a flashgot issue
[03:31] <[[thufir]]> hmm, ok
[03:31] <Dr_willis> if its not flashgot respawning.. then what is?
[03:32] <[[thufir]]> I dunno.  flashgot uses curl, I already removed flashgot.  so, I'm removing curl and wget...
[03:32] <Dr_willis> seems a little overkill
[03:32] <Dr_willis> curl dosent just respawn if you reboot as far as i know
[03:33] <[[thufir]]> yeah
[03:34] <c2tarun> Hi friends, is anyone here able to sync Iphone5 with WinXP installed in VirtualBox on Ubuntu?
[03:35] <Dr_willis> i bet thats going to be a longshot c2tarun  ;)
[03:35] <c2tarun> Dr_willis, yeah I tried and its not working :( so I thought if someone can help. :) right now I am dual bootin
[03:36] <Dr_willis> with smartphones these days. i seem to perfer/see used more   the trend of using the wireless/network tools to sync/copy/manage them. instead of the old plug-in-the-cable methods
[03:38] <madprops> anybody knows if notify-send can customize the image's size?
[03:41] <trism> madprops: even if you could, it wouldn't matter with notify-osd, the images are all scaled to the same size
[03:41] <hpm> hi, I'm facing the resolution downgrading issue, after login ubuntu.  have checked some questions & answers but did not solve it yet.. anyone would please help ?
[03:43] <Dr_willis> what resolution downgradeing issue?
[03:44] <Dr_willis> arcripex,  state the problem to th channel.. no need to msg me.
[03:46] <hpm> Dr_willis, I use a 22" LG monitor and receive a 1280x??? login screen (something like that).  But after login, the resolution drops to 1024x768
[03:46] <Dr_willis> hpm,  as a test. make a new user. see if the newly made user is using the higher res or not.
[03:47] <Dr_willis> arcripex,  again.. talk IN the channel.. theres no need to be messageing me
[03:47] <arcripex> x> hi please help me
 my linux ubuntu after software updates after restart login fft username: arcripex password: xxxxxthen startx it freezes
[03:47] <hpm> Dr_willis, I did it.  but did not work.  I tryed xrandr and sometimes it shows up higher resolutions but other times not
[03:47] <Dr_willis> arcripex,  and try using lightdm. not 'startx'
[03:47] <Dr_willis> hpm,  that is weird...
[03:47] <golden_bat> why doesn't ubuntu use bittorrent to distribute packages? Downloading at 75 KB/s right now, painfully slow...
[03:48] <[[thufir]]> Dr_willis: after sudo  apt-get install adobe-flash-properties-gtk adobe-flashplugin curl hplip printer-driver-postscript-hp ubuntu-standard wallch wget curl      it stopped downloading, but then I re-installed all that (still no flashgot plugin) and the downloads restarted.   what's respawning?
[03:48] <Dr_willis> hpm,  how is the monitor connected?
[03:48] <Dr_willis> golden_bat,  becasue not everyone wants to torrent by default
[03:48] <hpm> Dr_willis, yes I agree.. I'm using a VGA cable
[03:48] <Dr_willis> golden_bat,  there is some apt-torrent packages i belive
[03:48] <[[thufir]]> Dr_willis: I mean, I removed curl and wget, and it removed those other packages, so I re-installed them.
[03:48] <Dr_willis> hpm,  ugh. vga.    No weirdness in between? no kvm switches or anything?
[03:49] <Dr_willis> [[thufir]],  use htop and ps , and you tell me whats respawning.. i dont have any way to find out.
[03:49] <Dr_willis> i dont see how printer stuff applys to your download issues. ;)
[03:49] <arcripex> Dr_Willis is Backbox Linux Ubuntu?
[03:49] <Dr_willis> backbox? never heard of it.
[03:49] <hpm> Dr_willis, no.. only VGA.  I have hdmi interface and I'm planning to by a cable.. I just build this machine and does not have the cable yet
[03:49] <Dr_willis> Blackbox - is a window manager i recall
[03:49] <Dr_willis> !info blackbox
[03:50] <golden_bat> Dr_willis: well ubiquity doing the downloading, so I don't have any choice. They could turn off seeding for regular clients by default, but I'm sure enough people would enable it to make it faster overall
[03:51] <Dr_willis> arcripex,  we only 'support' the official ubuntu variants here.     all these other variants.. have their own channels
[03:51] <golden_bat> Dr_willis: but apt-torrent does sound interesting, I'll look into that, thanks!
[03:51] <adv__> Hi
[03:51] <Dr_willis> golden_bat,  for a network of ubuntu boxs setting up one to be an apt-cacher-ng server helps greatly also
[03:51] <arcripex> Dr_willis ok thanks
[03:51] <[[thufir]]> Dr_willis: it's not tumblerd is it?
[03:52] <Dr_willis> never heard of tulblerd
[03:52] <Dr_willis> to many things out there i just dont keep track of these days ;)
[03:52] <hpm> Dr_willis, it is really interesting because I see the high resolution working fine at the login prompt.  But after the login, it drops down.  Sometimes it works a few at high resolution but suddenly drops...
[03:52] <Dr_willis> hpm,  so one login.. it works.. next login it dosent...
[03:53] <Dr_willis> that just screams bad cable/or port to me....
[03:53] <hpm> Dr_willis, kind of.. it is not a rule.. it works when it want..
[03:54] <arcripex> Dr_willis my Ubuntu 13.01 has problems like "Find an application online" i get this ERRORS here http://pastebin.com/ULJeKwAA  ALWAYS
[03:54] <hpm> Dr_willis, it should have a trigger.. I just do not know what
[03:54] <Dr_willis> ive accumulated a big box-o-cables for just such an emergancy ;)
[03:55] <Dr_willis> !find workrave
[03:55] <Dr_willis> !info workrave
[03:55] <Dr_willis> looks like the package for workrave has some bugs in it..
[03:56] <hpm> Dr_willis, sure, I can try hdmi interface.. but would like to understand why this is happening.. it seems I can have that resolution on vga. but it is just not working always
[03:56] <Dr_willis> id start with a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' then see if  it works then.  'sudo apt-get install workrave'
[03:56] <Dr_willis> hpm,  when things work some times and others not.. i find its often a hardware issue.. not a driver/software issue
[03:57] <Dr_willis> hpm,  hdmi will give MUCH better looking display also
[03:57] <arcripex> Dr_willis my Ubuntu 13.04 has problems like "Find an application online" i get this ERRORS here http://pastebin.com/ULJeKwAA  ALWAYS
[03:57] <Dr_willis> arcripex,  and i suggested --->   id start with a 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' then see if  it works then.  'sudo apt-get install workrave'
[03:57] <chadmandoo> ANyone tried to use Teamviewer on UBuntu 12
[03:58] <hpm> Dr_willis, I hope not.  the machine was just bought.  the monitor is quite old (1-2 years) but working fine.. (well, I think)
[03:58] <Dr_willis> chadmandoo,  a lot of people use it.
[03:58] <rosenzweig> Hey guys, quick question.
[03:58] <Dr_willis> hpm,  its supriseng monitors still have vga ports. ;)
[03:58] <Dr_willis> and pcs.
[03:58] <rosenzweig> How do I check whether or not the free driver is installed and being used on Ubuntu?
[03:59] <rosenzweig> The free radeon one.
[03:59] <rosenzweig> Because I don't think it is used.
[03:59] <chadmandoo> Dr_willis: i am having an issue with teamviewer randomly not working.  It will stall at the connecting screen
[03:59] <[[thufir]]> after removing adobe-flash-properties-gtk adobe-flashplugin curl hplip printer-driver-postscript-hp ubuntu-standard wallch wget curl  something is still downloading movies (multiple copies).   LOL, i"m glad it's so persistent, just dont' know see anything in ps.  I'll pastebin ps and htop, maybe something will be there.
[04:00] <hpm> Dr_willis, ok, I´ll give up on this and try hdmi.. thank you for your thoughts
[04:00] <Dr_willis> i dont see how  hplip and printer-driver-postescript are relevant in you rlist [[thufir]]
[04:01] <[[thufir]]> they were removed when I purged curl and wget, but, yeah.
[04:02] <rosenzweig> Yeah, Ubuntu is in 2D mode and I don't think the radeon free driver is installed correctly.
[04:02] <chadmandoo> Anyone know the best way to run a command or script when ubuntu starts up
[04:02] <Dr_willis> chadmandoo,  depends on what the script is doing
[04:02]  * [[thufir]] slinks away after looking in firefox downloads...
[04:02] <Dr_willis> [[thufir]],  the browser extension was doing it when you started the browser?
[04:03] <chadmandoo> Dr_willis: well basically I want it to run x11vnc service, which is just one command, and also I want it to start my svn daemon
[04:03] <chadmandoo> also one command
[04:03] <[[thufir]]> it was being handled by the plugins and curl, but when they were removed firefox picked it up (I think).
[04:03] <arcripex> Dr_willis stil same ERRORS
[04:03] <Dr_willis> chadmandoo,  you can start some things in /etc/rc.local  but you may want to check the x11vnc docs for a proper way to start it at system boot
[04:04] <Dr_willis> chadmandoo,  you can spawn a seperate vnc session thats hidden, and is NOT showing the current desktop by using a differnt vncserver other then x11vnc
[04:05] <chadmandoo> Dr_willis what VNC would you suggest using?  I tried to use teamviewer but it is extremely flaky for some reason, it works sometimes and other times it doesn't
[04:05] <Dr_willis> http://seb.so/vnc-from-boot-without-logging-in-ubuntu-lubuntu-xubuntu-and-mint-lmde/
[04:05] <Dr_willis> chadmandoo,  i just ssh in and start a 'vncserver' like vnc4server or xtightvnc.
[04:05] <Dr_willis> i dont want to share the current desktop normally - I just want a remote desktop
[04:05] <Dr_willis> i also dont do vnc over the intenet.. just the local lan
[04:06] <arcripex> Dr_willis even SKYPE does nt install but before upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 LTS everythin was workin fine
[04:06] <chadmandoo> Dr_willis i also do not do VNC outside of the local LAN, and using my mikrotik router to act as a VPN
[04:07] <Dr_willis> chadmandoo,  well  that url i posted seems decent for x11vnc and lightdm. but its a little old. no idea if all the info still applies
[04:08] <chadmandoo> Dr_willis i may look into another solution like you suggested
[04:08] <Dr_willis> i tend to just ssh into the box.. run vncserver, then connect with a vnc client..   wife or kids dont even know i go ta vnc session going on their pc. ;0
[04:08] <Dr_willis> i dont want to see wht they are doing 'locally'
[04:09] <chadmandoo> I love using teamviewer but doesn't seem stable on Ubuntu, or atleast on my machine
[04:10] <akurilin> Are most people nowadays using checkinstall? I keep seeing all sorts of big scary red signs on the ubuntu help page for it.
[04:10] <Dr_willis> i imagine most people are NOT using checkinstall ;)
[04:11] <Dr_willis> people that actually compile these days - are getting fewer and fewer.
[04:12] <akurilin> I guess my real question was: is there any reason for me not to use it if I want to improve on a regular make? Is it a pretty stable / time proven tool?
[04:12] <Dr_willis> if you are going to use it on your own personal systems..  i guess you can. ;)  but  releaseing packages built with it to the world  will get a lot of yelling i imagine.
[04:13] <Dr_willis> ive no idea how stable it is.  there might be some people in the ubuntu developent channel that may know.
[04:13] <chadmandoo> Dr_willis do you know much about subversion
[04:13] <Dr_willis> but they also most likely know enough to not need it.
[04:13] <Dr_willis> I rarely need to compile stuff these days chadmandoo .. so i dont do svn, or git, or that other stuff much.
[04:14] <akurilin> To clarify, this is definitely for personal/production use. It's just that sometimes you don't get a make uninstall or you reconfigure the make before uninstalling and so you have to clean up everything by hand.
[04:15] <akurilin> Dr_willis, in any case, appreciate the advice! :)
[04:18] <mere> hey ppl
[04:20] <mere> im very new to ubuntu/linux i have just installed how to i find all the hardware on my com and make sure my drivers are up 2 date?
[04:23] <supertough> help how to seed files on ubuntu 12.10 transmission
[04:23] <supertough> I want to share a 320mb files using transmission
[04:29] <IT_n3Rd> hello everyone
[04:30] <IT_n3Rd> i like ubuntu and its the best out of all the operating systems ever invented in this world
[04:30] <Dr_willis> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/create-torrent-files-share-transmission/  supertough
[04:31] <IT_n3Rd> i can do a sumbersolt
[04:31] <c2tarun> IT_n3Rd, I disagree. Best is a relative term, if you are looking for gaming its not ;)
[04:32] <IT_n3Rd> no technically not for gaming in my opinion
[04:33] <c2tarun> IT_n3Rd, thats what I said :) just use the operating system you like and feels comfortable, it doesn't matter whether its ubuntu kubuntu mac win whatever :) Operating systems are for us, we are not for them
[04:33] <ninjabox__> hello everyone, is anyone awake?
[04:34] <Dr_willis> this channel is world wide.. someone is always awake
[04:35] <Dr_willis> ;)
[04:35] <ninjabox__> lol
[04:35] <ninjabox__> well i need a little help answering a question that i just thought about
[04:35] <ninjabox__> and didnt know if it was possible or not
[04:35] <aeon-ltd> shoot
[04:35] <giraffe> I am attempting to use MAAS on 12.10.. I can get a node to boot dhcp but tftp fails... what can I do?
[04:35] <ninjabox__> is it possible to connect to the same network on two wireless devices and speed up my internet by combining the two?
[04:36] <aeon-ltd> from one pc?
[04:36] <ninjabox__> eys
[04:36] <ninjabox__> err
[04:36] <ninjabox__> yes
[04:36] <aeon-ltd> so 2 wifi modules connecting to the same router/modem?
[04:36] <ninjabox__> yes
[04:36] <aeon-ltd> no
[04:36] <ninjabox__> sortof bridge them to pull data?
[04:37] <aeon-ltd> no, if say they were 54mbps each you'd have more bandwidth but i doubt that's the bottlenecj
[04:38] <giraffe> ugh and so the beard growing begins
[04:38] <ninjabox__> well the bottle neck is my comp...lol, it's a 4 year old hp pavilion
[04:38] <aeon-ltd> i'm sure there was a discussion about this on a popular forum or it might have been here about using 2 ethernet connections to get faster
[04:38] <giraffe> looks like dhcp configs were misplaced by design, who needs standards anyway
[04:39] <ninjabox__> so it would work on ethernet but not on wireless?
[04:39] <aeon-ltd> no it does the same, increase potential bandwidth
[04:39] <ninjabox__> basicly it's not worth the trouble doing it?
[04:40] <aeon-ltd> so you could do 2 x 1gbps up and down instead of 1gbps full duplex
[04:40] <ninjabox__> i see what your saying now.
[04:40] <aeon-ltd> no, plus power usage if this is a laptop
[04:41] <ninjabox__> i could increase the bandwith by splitting the jobs like using 2 video cards and having one specificly for physics
[04:41] <aeon-ltd> now if you could use 2 different networks, that could be interesting
[04:41] <ninjabox__> well i do have that option
[04:42] <ninjabox__> would it be possible that way?
[04:42] <aeon-ltd> i'm not sure
[04:42] <irider> 한국인은 없는건가
[04:42] <aeon-ltd> !korean
[04:42] <ninjabox__> lol
[04:42] <ninjabox__> i can not understand a word you are saying execpt /join #ubuntu-ko....which is korean ubuntu
[04:42] <ninjabox__> ...
[04:43] <Dr_willis> lets hope irider  understands it..
[04:43] <irider> hm..
[04:43] <Dr_willis> ;)
[04:43] <irider> Ok
[04:44] <ninjabox__> i apologize before i do anything stupid, im drinking and my moms in the hospital. So my minds alittle bit off atm.
[04:44] <ninjabox__> do you know of any forums that pertain to my question aeon?
[04:44] <giraffe> This does not work: http://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/install.html
[04:45] <ninjabox__> btw what does the "ltd" after your name mean?
[04:46] <IT_n3Rd> hello
[04:46] <aeon-ltd> ninjabox__: i've never tried or searched if anyone else has used 2 networks at the same time, i doubt there is software that can divide and prioritize which packets go where
[04:46] <IT_n3Rd> i had one few years ago in my apartment in france
[04:47] <aeon-ltd> ninjabox__: there is no importance to the 'ltd' in my nick
[04:47] <aeon-ltd> IT_n3Rd: you used 2 networks on one pc?
[04:47] <IT_n3Rd> is there a way to hack into your home network using backbox
[04:47] <IT_n3Rd> yes
[04:48] <YellowJacket> I manually setup a LUKS-LVM partition for my root partition, and was able to install it via ubiquity, but I can't get it to boot. I was following the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsViaUbiquity
[04:48] <ninjabox__> aeon-ltd: just wondering, and if you have a few minutes i have another question. Why is it that ubuntu can only handle one wireless driver at a time?
[04:48] <aeon-ltd> IT_n3Rd: did it utilize both connections or did it just use the faster one?
[04:49] <aeon-ltd> ninjabox__: no idea
[04:49] <Dr_willis> wow.. big differance tween steam on windows and steam on linux..  On windows there was 8914.84mb of 'redistrobutable packages' in the steam game dirs  i was able to clean out.. redundant copies of directx installers and .net installers and  vcredist_x86.exe stuff... egads..
[04:49] <IT_n3Rd> it utilised both connections there weren't any dropouts but was able to get maximum throughput downloading alot of stuff simultanously
[04:50] <ninjabox__> Dr_willis: i hate steam. to much BS to deal with.
[04:50] <IT_n3Rd> yee i agree
[04:50] <IT_n3Rd> too much shit to give out
[04:50] <IT_n3Rd> xbox is easier
[04:50] <Dr_willis> given all the bs i see in buying games normally.. i will stick to steam
[04:50] <Dr_willis> Havent even fired up my Wii in months..
[04:51] <aeon-ltd> IT_n3Rd: sweet, but i'm guessing you couldn't 'spread' a request like load elements from a webpage from both connections right?
[04:51] <ninjabox__> true enough, but with steam you have to constantly have it running and sucking up precious system recources. i would rather just buy the game and play it without steam.
[04:51] <IT_n3Rd> console games are cooler to play on a big screen
[04:51] <Dr_willis> we will have to see what happens with that steambox.. if it ever gets here.
[04:51] <IT_n3Rd> i doubt it
[04:51] <Dr_willis> precious resources? ;) need them in reserve for the flash banner ads..
[04:51] <ninjabox__> lol
[04:52] <ninjabox__> well, the resources thing is because i use a windows comp to play my games
[04:52] <ninjabox__> linux is for different uses
[04:52] <YellowJacket> For a new install of Ubuntu 13.04, I manually setup a LUKS-LVM partition for the root folder. I was able to get ubiquity to install to the LUKS-LVM, but I can't get it to boot. I was following the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsViaUbiquity but I am getting errors when I run update-initramfs
[04:52] <gordonjcp> ninjabox__: how much "precious resources" does Steam suck up?
[04:52] <Dr_willis> if steam is sucking down your resources and lagging your games on windows.. i think you may have deeper issues. ;) but
[04:52] <Dr_willis> thats a bit OT for here.
[04:53] <gordonjcp> ninjabox__: looking at it here, it seems to be using as much as a couple of hundred K
[04:53] <ninjabox__> gordonjcp: to much for me to use it :D, to be honest im not sure but windows has alot of crap running in the background already so why stack it with steam?
[04:53] <gordonjcp> ninjabox__: no wonder my machine is so laggy
[04:53] <gordonjcp> yeah, I've only got about 3.8GB free
[04:54] <ninjabox__> on your hard drive?
[04:54] <ninjabox__> o.O
[04:54] <gordonjcp> no, RAM
[04:54] <ninjabox__> lol, how much ram do you have?
[04:54] <gordonjcp> ninjabox__: 8GB
[04:54] <ninjabox__> can your mother board support more?
[04:55] <gordonjcp> must be that couple of hundred KB that Steam is using, then eh
[04:55] <gordonjcp> ninjabox__: probably, but my wallet can't
[04:55] <ninjabox__> lol
[04:55] <Dr_willis> hmm.. i play games on steam while i am reencoding videos in the background with handbreak.. 8gb-o-ram here
[04:55] <ninjabox__> try this site, www.directron.com
[04:55] <gordonjcp> ninjabox__: what's that site?
[04:55] <ninjabox__> they have good prices, i got 16GB of RAM for $110 i think
[04:56] <c2tarun> gordonjcp, at my machine I have 151MBs free and my machine is pretty responsive.
[04:56] <c2tarun> and i have banshee, xchat, terminal, firefox, chrome, nautilus all are opened
[04:56] <ninjabox__> Dr_willis: WHILE? must have a good cpu and video cards?
[04:56] <Dr_willis> ninjabox__,  not really.. its close to a 2 yr old machine now..
[04:56] <gordonjcp> ninjabox__: probably nothing particularly astonishing
[04:57] <Dr_willis> I did use 'gamebooster' to tweak a few games. lowered the res and a few other gfx tweaks.
[04:57] <Dr_willis> but not much else..
[04:57] <gordonjcp> I can quite happily play HL2 in wine on this Core 2 Duo, with a big compile running in the background
[04:57] <gordonjcp> that said HL2 is probably only using one core
[04:57] <ninjabox__> well see my GPU's on my windows machine are about 6 years old
[04:57] <ninjabox__> which is why i stay away from graphic intensive games
[04:58] <Dr_willis> !info freeciv
[04:58] <Dr_willis> Doh! ;) i wonde what its called.
[04:58] <ninjabox__> :D
[04:58] <ninjabox__> nvidia geforce 9600 i think
[04:58] <ninjabox__> or 9500
[04:58] <Dr_willis> wesnoth got me to annoyed..
[04:58] <gordonjcp> Dr_willis: python-freeciv-extra-nonfree-bad-plugins
[04:58] <williangliao> :D
[04:58] <ninjabox__> when 1GB first come out or right after
[04:59] <ninjabox__> im just waiting to upgrade, dunno what i can get yet havent checked the specks on my power supply to see what kinda room i have
[04:59] <aeon-ltd> haswell soon....
[04:59] <wallzero> Hello, what is the command to list the encryption supported by my kernel?
[05:00] <ninjabox__> ask the terminal nicely :D
[05:00] <ninjabox__> j/k, i dunno
[05:00] <gordonjcp> most encryption is userland
[05:00] <gordonjcp> wallzero: what exactly are you trying to do?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> bbl
[05:01] <ninjabox__> Dr_willis: you know if i can set up SU for certain programs on my user account?
[05:01] <wallzero> gordonjcp: Basically I want to see what encryption I can use with LUKS with the default kernel
[05:03] <wallzero> gordonjcp: It is userland but I need to know what encryption is possible on boot
[05:03] <gordonjcp> wallzero: you could try something like "cryptsetup --help" and go from there
[05:03] <gordonjcp> wallzero: I don't use disk encryption, and am never likely to
[05:03] <YellowJacket> For a new install of Ubuntu 13.04, I manually setup a LUKS-LVM partition for the root folder. I was able to get ubiquity to install to the LUKS-LVM, but I can't get it to boot. I was following the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsViaUbiquity but I am getting errors when I run update-initramfs
[05:03] <gordonjcp> so I can't really be much help there
[05:03] <ninjabox__> does anyone know if i can make myself a super user for certain commands like "ifconfig" or "iwconfig"?
[05:04] <gordonjcp> ninjabox__: sudo
[05:04] <wallzero> gordonjcp: I used to know it. I am trying to find it again.
[05:04] <ninjabox__> gordonjcp: without using sudo. so all i have to do is type the command.
[05:04] <gordonjcp> ninjabox__: you can have quite fine-grained control over who runs what command with what permissions
[05:04] <GothSpark> hi every one i got an issue with my cg upon  reboot from hibernation , it gives me a random backout output faillure how do i fix it ?
[05:05] <ninjabox__> GorthSpark: disable hibernation?
[05:05] <gordonjcp> wallzero: I don't need anything to make my disks slower and less reliable
[05:07] <wallzero> gordonjcp: I have never noticed a speed difference. I don't use a SSD though.
[05:07] <gordonjcp> wallzero: it's cripplingly slow
[05:08] <GothSpark> ninjabox__ i need hibernation .... so i do not loose my work because of my old battery
[05:08] <ninjabox__> really? encryption on an SSD is "cripplingly slow"?
[05:08] <shady_> having problem with my internal mic ubuntu 13.04 on dell inspiron
[05:08] <gordonjcp> wallzero: also if anything happens to the disk, your data is gone
[05:08] <ninjabox__> GothSpark: Save your work, then log out? I was in the military, that's what i did.
[05:09] <gordonjcp> ninjabox__: encryption on spinning rust is cripplingly slow
[05:09] <ninjabox__> shady_: did you check the drivers?
[05:09] <ninjabox__> lol
[05:09] <ninjabox__> spinning rust is nice...reminds me of my brakes :D
[05:09] <gordonjcp> ninjabox__: I *did* try disk encryption just because the option was there, but it made my machine unusable
[05:09] <ninjabox__> eww
[05:09] <shady_> actually i upgrade from 11.10 but i dont know how to check the drivers
[05:09] <ninjabox__> time to replace the "rust" eh?
[05:10] <gordonjcp> I do a lot of audio work, so I'm slinging a lot of data on and off the disk
[05:10] <gordonjcp> and I don't really see the point in disk encryption anyway
[05:10] <ninjabox__> shady_: check in your system settings for proprietary drivers and see if your issue is there
[05:11] <ninjabox__> well if you have a good enough password on your account and your system is secure then there is no reason for it
[05:11] <ninjabox__> but if you work for a company that requires it and your working from home then your are SOL
[05:11] <gordonjcp> ninjabox__: <shrug>
[05:12] <gordonjcp> ninjabox__: I don't much care if anyone "requires" it, I won't use it
[05:12] <gordonjcp> "ZOMG YOU MUST USE DISK ENCRYPTION" oh okay, so you're going to pay me to sit and look at a non-functioning computer then?
[05:12] <ninjabox__> yeah, but im just saying i can understand his issue
[05:12] <shady_> i dont have this option in the sys sittings
[05:13] <wallzero> gordonjcp: Encryption shouldn't make a noticeable difference with read/write speed - unless your system is often running at capacity.
[05:13] <ninjabox__> my computer would be useless if i used encryption
[05:13] <gordonjcp> wallzero: it is hopeless for audio work
[05:13] <ninjabox__> shady_: there is no proprietary drivers option in system settings?
[05:13] <gordonjcp> wallzero: even four tracks of audio kept stuttering and complaining about slow disks
[05:13] <shady_> yes
[05:13] <gordonjcp> wallzero: and it hammers the CPU
[05:14] <ninjabox__> shady_: im sorry it's additional drivers :D'
[05:14] <ninjabox__> shady_: there may be something in there that you need to install to get it to work
[05:15] <shady_> even additional diivers not exist
[05:15] <ninjabox__> shady_: ok, when you first installed did your mic work?
[05:15] <shady_> with the old version 11.10
[05:16] <shady_> and i tried ALSAMIXER also nothing
[05:16] <YellowJacket> For a new install of Ubuntu 13.04, I manually setup a LUKS-LVM partition for the root folder. I was able to get ubiquity to install to the LUKS-LVM, but I can't get it to boot. I was following the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsViaUbiquity but I am getting errors when I run update-initramfs
[05:16] <ninjabox__> shady_: hmm
[05:17] <amish> q
[05:17] <shady_> my be in dell drivers online
[05:17] <ninjabox__> shady_: can you post what model dell inspiron your using?
[05:17] <giraffe> buggy software will be the demise of man
[05:17] <ninjabox__> that and maybe google
[05:17] <amish> exit
[05:17] <ninjabox__> amish exited :D
[05:18] <shady_> 3420
[05:18] <ninjabox__> shady_: give me a moment to see what i can find out about your issue
[05:18] <shady_> ok thx
[05:20] <williangliao> shady_: thx
[05:20] <bradley> herro
[05:21] <ninjabox__> shady_: have you tried any external mics?
[05:22] <shady_> yep
[05:22] <shady_> it works but with a buzzing sound
[05:23] <Ozera> Has anyone gotten SC2: HoTS to work under Ubuntu 12.04 here?
[05:23] <ninjabox__> hmm, right now all i see about this is bug information and nothing about a fix atm. im not a coder or i could try to work something up for you but ill keep looking a bit longer
[05:25] <[[thufir]]> DrWillis left?   I wanted to tell him what the problem likely was...oh well.
[05:27] <giraffe> I can work really slow and incomplete can I work for canonical?
[05:28] <ninjabox__> giraffe: probably?
[05:30] <ninjabox__> shady_: my internet is slow.....really slow...lol
[05:31] <Braiam> you liar ¬¬
[05:31] <Braiam> ninjabox__, ^
[05:31] <ninjabox__> what?
[05:31] <ninjabox__> im still loading dell driver page......
[05:31] <ninjabox__> my latency here isnt bad
[05:32] <ninjabox__> 153 ms
[05:32] <Braiam> D:
[05:32] <ninjabox__> 157 now
[05:32] <ninjabox__> but im still loading the dell driver page
[05:32] <ninjabox__> lmao
[05:32] <Braiam> mine went timeout...
[05:32] <ninjabox__> really
[05:32] <ninjabox__> :D
[05:33] <ninjabox__> btw how did you send me a ping request?
[05:33] <Braiam> pinging to 143.166.224.244... only timeouts
[05:33] <Braiam> /ping "nick"
[05:33] <ninjabox__> that is a bit odd
[05:33] <ninjabox__> ah
[05:34] <ninjabox__> this stupid computer's internet is really crapy or myabe my nic is
[05:34] <Braiam> speedtest.net ftw!
[05:34] <Braiam> or someone is using torrents...
[05:34] <ninjabox__> lmao, i pull about 1 MB down and .4 MB up...
[05:34] <ninjabox__> lmao
[05:35] <ninjabox__> im such a slow poke
[05:35] <Braiam> nah, mine is .25 up
[05:35] <Braiam> about the same down
[05:35] <ninjabox__> im used to about 10 MB both ways
[05:35] <ninjabox__> so for me it's like dial up
[05:35] <ninjabox__> :D
[05:36] <Neozonz> anyone know how to resolve this issue
[05:36] <Neozonz> no
[05:36] <Neozonz> ./configure: line 5754: syntax error near unexpected token `,'
[05:36] <Neozonz> ./configure: line 5754: `LIBCURL_CHECK_CONFIG(, 7.10.1, ,'
[05:36] <wallzero> ninjabox__: I found list: cat /proc/crypto
[05:36] <Braiam> Neozonz, install libcurl and come back
[05:36] <ninjabox__> wallzero: what?
[05:37] <wallzero> ninjabox__: That will show the supported encryption either in the kernel or "userland"
[05:37] <Neozonz> Braiam, libcurl3 is installed
[05:37] <ninjabox__> shady_: sorry man i dont think dell has put out a driver that has ubuntu 13 support yet
[05:37] <Braiam> Neozonz, -dev?
[05:37] <Braiam> !package
[05:37] <wallzero> ninjabox__: I was asking about it earlier. I managed to find it. Just thought you may want the FYI. Cheers!
[05:38] <giraffe> If you hate your life you can search through ftp://ftp.dell.com
[05:38] <ninjabox__> wallzero: well done, congrats :D
[05:38] <ninjabox__> lmao @ giraffe
[05:38] <ninjabox__> been there
[05:39] <Neozonz> Braiam, i've installed libcurl4-openssl-dev as well
[05:40] <ninjabox__> so, im gonna try to walk my comp out with me to smoke, and the battery may die so i may or may not answer anyone in the next few minutes
[05:40] <Braiam> then the configure script is bad writen
[05:41] <Braiam> check for newer/corrected version
[05:41] <Braiam> or report it to the developer
[05:43] <Neozonz> Braiam, unfortunately i dont think thats an option :(
[05:43] <Neozonz> any otherway I can get this to work?
[05:43] <ninjabox__> Braiam: so if i had 2 monkeys and a wrench what could you do?
[05:44] <Braiam> ninjabox__, conquer the world trough bruteforce
[05:44] <Braiam> Neozonz, why not?
[05:44] <ninjabox__> Braiam: good answer
[05:45] <Neozonz> Braiam, https://github.com/jgarzik/pushpool/issues/28
[05:45] <Neozonz> cause the developer refuses to fix it
[05:45] <ichthys> Hello all. If i have a debian bind server setup as my DNS server. how can i add this server as my DNS on another Ubuntu server? it doesnt seem to work by just adding 'nameserver <ip>' to the '/etc/resolv.conf' file
[05:46] <Braiam> ichthys, because the NM is managing the connection, check that
[05:46] <gordonjcp> Neozonz: it would be interesting to see what the developer is developing on
[05:46] <ninjabox__> i hate you braiam, i was about to say the same thing
[05:47] <Braiam> ninjabox__, is natural...
[05:47] <ichthys> what is NM  : /
[05:47] <gordonjcp> Neozonz: it looks like they're using ridiculously old versions of gnu autotools
[05:47] <Braiam> NetworkManager
[05:47] <Neozonz> well the project hasn't been updated since 2 years ago
[05:48] <Braiam> Neozonz, fork it and develop on your own then ;)
[05:48] <ninjabox__> easier said
[05:48] <Neozonz> if i had tose talents
[05:48] <ninjabox__> @ braiam
[05:48] <Neozonz> im sure i would have had this thing compiled by now
[05:48] <Neozonz> lol
[05:49] <ichthys> is there an easy way to check if NM is the culprit.   I have a bare bones ubuntu 12.04 server install. with no GUI
[05:49] <Braiam> never late to learn Neozonz
[05:49] <ichthys> i dont see a /etc/networkmanager directory
[05:50] <ninjabox__> no gui on 12.04?
[05:50] <ltsampros> i'm being driven mad by nvidia package installation
[05:50] <ninjabox__> thats a bit odd since i installed it a few weeks ago and i have a gui.
[05:50] <ichthys> i intentionally installed mine without a GUI
[05:50] <Braiam> ltsampros, don't install them if you don't need em
[05:50] <ltsampros> installing any kinf of official nvidia package fails in dkms phase with "unable to determine the target kernel version"
[05:51] <ninjabox__> Itsampros: have you tried just using the drivers in additional drivers?
[05:51] <Braiam> ninjabox__, server version came without gui by default
[05:51] <Braiam> comes*
[05:51] <ltsampros> ninjabox__: I have no X running just the command line.
[05:51] <ninjabox__> didnt see the server part
[05:51] <ninjabox__> im a bit drunk atm so bare with me
[05:52] <ltsampros> ninjabox__: and yes i'm using the nvidia-current-updates from the raring repositories
[05:52] <ninjabox__> Itsampros: i dont know command line to well with linux, but i can google you an answer if you want?
[05:52] <ltsampros> sorry quantal/restricted
[05:52] <ltsampros> well good luck
[05:52] <ninjabox__> i take it you tried?
[05:52] <Braiam> ltsampros, then, the problem is?
[05:52] <ltsampros> dkms phase is failing with "unable to determine the current kernel version"
[05:53] <Braiam> where it appears?
[05:53] <ltsampros> so when you do apt-get install nvidia-current (e.g.) the kernel modile fails to build
[05:53] <ninjabox__> Itsampros: can you specify a version to get?
[05:53] <ltsampros> in /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-current/$VERSION/build/make/log
[05:53] <Braiam> and the fundamental question, why do you need it?
[05:54] <ltsampros> broken laptop no monitor, nouveau does not recognize the card and the intel card uses the broken monitor by default
[05:54] <ltsampros> but anyway why do you care why I need nvidia drivers?
[05:54] <ltsampros> the packages provided in restricted should have been working out of the box
[05:54] <Braiam> ltsampros, have you restarted yet?
[05:55] <ltsampros> of course yes, but it's unneeded
[05:55] <Braiam> uninstalled noveau ones?
[05:55] <ltsampros> THE KERNEL MODULE DOES NOT GET BUILD
[05:55] <Braiam> ok, let's see, what's the package?
[05:55] <ltsampros>  /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-current/$VERSION/build/make/log
[05:55] <ltsampros> nvidia-current
[05:55] <ninjabox__> Itsampros: theres no need to get mad, we are trying to help you
[05:55] <ltsampros> i know. but I told like 5 times what the problem is
[05:55] <atum> h
[05:55] <lars> hi there, Ninja
[05:56] <ninjabox__> Itsampros: doesnt matter, if you come in here asking for help you should be grateful that someone is trying
[05:56] <ichthys> Braiam, is there anything else besides 'NM' to check to add my internal DNS server?   i dont see a '/etc/networkmanager' or //etc/init.d/networkmanager'
[05:56] <ninjabox__> lars: sup
[05:56] <ltsampros> installing nvidia-current of nvidia-current-updates or nvidia-experiemental-310, FAILS during DKMS phase with "unable to determine the target kernel version"
[05:56] <lars> could I ask a question for the experts?
[05:56] <lars> What is Vuze?
[05:56] <ninjabox__> lars: i think that is a torrent downloading program?
[05:57] <atum> bt client
[05:57] <lars> I found it in my Home Directory
[05:57] <Braiam> ltsampros, have you tried apt-get build-depends nvidia-current?
[05:57] <ltsampros> yes and it says that everything is there
[05:57] <lars> that would make sense, and it seems to be connected to Azureus somehow
[05:58] <ninjabox__> lars: well it is Azureus Vuze.
[05:58] <lars> When I printed a textfile in the Vuze directory it also said sth about Java
[05:58] <lars> is Vuze related to Java somehow?
[05:58] <atum> i think it's written in java
[05:59] <lars> Oh, can I just delete the whole Vuze folder?
[05:59] <ninjabox__> lars: i agree with atum
[05:59] <atum> probably
[05:59] <atum> do 30 backups to be sure ;)
[05:59] <ninjabox__> lol
[05:59] <ninjabox__> need another beer this is confusing....
[05:59] <lars> I'm about to copy my whole Home directory, and install Kubuntu 12.04
[06:00] <Braiam> ichthys, shouldn't be...
[06:00] <lars> But I guess I can leave Vuze in the backup
[06:01] <atum> yep, if u dont want it, dont copy it
[06:01] <lars> Then make a backup of the backup, and delete the Vuze folder and any other extraneous material in the second backup
[06:01] <Braiam> Neozonz, pull from this guy instead https://github.com/igetgames/pushpool
[06:01] <atum> i usually just backup the main folders, anything else usually new versions to update to
[06:02] <Neozonz> Braiam, i created that single file
[06:02] <atum> dat grammar
[06:02] <Neozonz> but same error
[06:02] <Neozonz> :(
[06:02] <Braiam> atum, you really installed vuze?
[06:02] <lars> yeah, there's lots of useless shit in my Home Directory
[06:02] <atum> once upon a time
[06:02] <lars> My home directory comprises 12 GiB
[06:02] <ninjabox__> i have a simple install of ubuntu, just added reaver and a chess program
[06:03] <lars> I love chess
[06:03] <lars> I think I have GNU chess installed
[06:03] <Braiam> Neozonz, with the same content?
[06:03] <lars> it's really good
[06:03] <ninjabox__> chess is fun, it's amazing how many people dont know how to play it
[06:03] <Neozonz> Braiam, yes
[06:03] <lars> I've been playing Yahoo chess for a long time
[06:04] <Braiam> Neozonz, do a git reset
[06:04] <lars> I also have a Russian chess set at home: it's really nice
[06:04] <ninjabox__> i dont play online chess, i play the comp for fun
[06:04] <Braiam> and try again
[06:04] <Chiko> ah quick q how do i determine linux kernel version?
[06:04] <Braiam> Neozonz, anything else just break your way trough
[06:05] <Neozonz> checking for  version... ./configure: line 4844: -c: command not found
[06:05] <Neozonz> checking for  platform... ./configure: line 4863: -c: command not found
[06:05] <Braiam> you messed configure, do a git reset to return everything to 0
[06:06] <Braiam> or delete the entire thing and pull from the other guy that fixed the problem
[06:06] <aeon-ltd> Chiko: uname -a
[06:08] <lars> there are a lot of advanced players on YahooChess, Ninja
[06:08] <ninjabox__> Braiam:can linux make me a sandwich? im hungry :D
[06:08] <ninjabox__> lars: yeah but i move around alot and dont always have the internet so i stick to playing the computer :D
[06:08] <lars> that's weird, my nick should be "Genyar" not "lars"
[06:09] <atum> now we know your last and first name
[06:09] <ninjabox__> lol
[06:09] <ninjabox__> PWNT
[06:09] <lars> You know my last name?
[06:10] <lars> How do I change my nick?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> lars: /nick yournewnick
[06:10] <lars> By the way, I accidentally deleted a node when I was playing on the Chess.com website and it fracked up my settings on Yahoochess
[06:11] <lars> but I guess it doesn't matter because I'm installing a new operating system
[06:11] <Genyar> thanks lotus
[06:11] <Genyar> Lars is now Genyar
[06:12] <ninjabox__> anyone else drunk on this server?
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> !ot | ninjabox__
[06:13] <ninjabox__> sweet, sorry about the offtopic thing
[06:14] <Genyar> I'm using Kunbuntu, isn't Ubuntu an antiquated OS now?
[06:14] <Genyar> woops Kubuntu
[06:14] <ninjabox__> Genyar: dunno i like it so i still use it
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Genyar
[06:14] <aeon-ltd> Genyar: antiquated how?
[06:15] <madprops> !ot | ubottu
[06:15] <Genyar> I suspect Ubuntu may be no longer supported
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> madprops: dont abuse the bot
[06:15] <madprops> :DDDD
[06:16] <Chiko> thanks aeon was trying cat /etc/issue
[06:16] <aeon-ltd> Genyar: no, unlikely
[06:16] <Genyar> I mean Kubuntu 11.04 is no longer supported and it's newer than Ubuntu, right?
[06:17] <aeon-ltd> Genyar: it's no longer supported because it's 2 years old
[06:17] <Genyar> Oh, well there must be newer versions of Ubuntu?
[06:18] <aeon-ltd> yeah
[06:18] <aeon-ltd> 2
[06:18] <aeon-ltd> twice a year
[06:19] <aeon-ltd> [20]11.04[april]
[06:20] <newbuntu> hey all, i switched my LAMP server to a different network (router). i can see localhost default site but i cannot access other websites. any ideas?
[06:20] <Genyar> is there a Windows channel on Quassel IRC?
[06:20] <madprops> what a strange question
[06:21] <Genyar> eh, yeah, probably not
[06:22] <madprops> irc clients don't hold the channels themselves, they are used to connect to irc servers where the channels reside. Right now you using a Freenode server.
[06:22] <madprops> type /j #windows
[06:22] <cebor> i have a laptop with external display, but when i close the lid, also my external monitor gets deactivated, im on 13.04. has somebody a solution for that ?
[06:23] <Mavrik> cebor, you need to disable sleep on lid close in power options
[06:23] <Genyar> what is that /j command?
[06:23] <Genyar> what does that "/j" command do, it creates a new channel?
[06:23] <cebor> Marvrik: its set to "do nothing"
[06:23] <Mavrik> cebor, even for battery?
[06:23] <cebor> yep
[06:23] <madprops> Genyar: it joins a channel
[06:24] <Mavrik> hmm
[06:24] <Genyar> so, there really is a Windows channel?
[06:24] <wolje_zoekt_hulp> gustav___:  I`m having the packages JA: wolfez@wolfez-programming:~$ sudo apt-get build-dep unity Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. but it doesnt works?
[06:24] <gordonjcp> Genyar: ##windows
[06:24] <Chiko> yeah
[06:24] <Genyar> ok, I'll try it
[06:25] <newbuntu> hey all, i switched my LAMP server to a different network (router). i can see localhost default site but i cannot access other websites. any ideas?
[06:25] <Chiko> any reason why i can't find haproxy in /usr/sbin/haproxy after running "cp haproxy /usr/sbin/haproxy" without errors?
[06:29] <ltsampros> lol installing linux-headers-`uname -r` creates broken symbolic links under /lib/modules/`uname -r`/
[06:29] <ltsampros> and that's why dkms is failing
[06:29] <ninjabox__> so you figured it out?
[06:29] <ltsampros> I have not fixed it but yes I figured it out
[06:29] <ltsampros> but it seems like a package bug
[06:29] <ninjabox__> congrats
[06:29] <ninjabox__> it does
[06:30] <ninjabox__> like my wireless issue i was having a few days ago
[06:30] <ltsampros> I wonder.... no one uses the linux-headers package anymore?
[06:30] <ltsampros> am I the first to see this issue?
[06:30] <ninjabox__> not sure, i havent seen it. good luck.
[06:30] <ninjabox__> later all
[06:38] <Chiko> anyone familiar with using haproxy?
[06:39] <supertough> can someone explain to me what does this mean | grep?
[06:39] <supertough> the grep stand for what?
[06:39] <Chiko> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grep
[06:44] <RA9UEK> :)
[06:44] <Aww> So how do I turn off the NSFW stuff in unity?
[06:44] <gordonjcp> Aww: NSFW?
[06:45] <gordonjcp> Aww: like what?
[06:45] <Aww> I typed in "sounds" and um.... Pictures of girls that need wayyy more clothes came up in the music section...
[06:46] <Aww> I think its from the amazon related thingy
[06:46] <gordonjcp> Aww: oh, you can turn that off
[06:46] <gordonjcp> not sure why that would be a problem, but still, you can turn it off
[06:46] <gordonjcp> not sure why it would be "NSFW" either
[06:46] <Aww> ill screen shot it
[06:46] <Aww> I think its NSFW but you might not
[06:47] <gordonjcp> yeah, it depends where you work I guess
[06:47] <unstable> Is there a way to encrypt files with ubuntu one service?
[06:48] <Aww> gordonjcp, http://i.imgur.com/vLqNNGX.jpg
[06:49] <gordonjcp> Aww: yeah actually, although I wouldn't say that was NSFW I reckon you've got genuine reason to complain
[06:50] <gordonjcp> Aww: not NSF*my*W
[06:50] <gordonjcp> Aww: just check that those titles aren't actually in your library though
[06:50] <Aww> I don't have any music on thing computer :/
[06:51] <Aww> this*
[06:51] <Aww> Its pulling it from soundcloud
[06:51] <Aww> Maybe thats why unity scopes didn't make it into 13.04 ;P
[06:53] <gordonjcp> Aww: it's certainly something to raise with the Unity team
[06:53] <gordonjcp> Aww: I'd file a bug
[06:54] <Aww> gordonjcp, how would I go about doing that?
[07:08] <supertough> Unity this distro is a BUG in itself.
[07:08] <supertough> I wish they would let the user move that panel from the left to the bottom.
[07:08] <supertough> i really hate that bar at the left side.
[07:09] <Aww> Yeah, me too. Theres a tweak to do that though
[07:10] <supertough> the tweak will make the system so unstable i end up purging Unity
[07:10] <supertough> and put gnome-shell
[07:18] <Krisiun> Hi
[07:18] <Krisiun> 13.04 is the buggiest release for me
[07:19] <Krisiun> Kernel panics often
[07:19] <Krisiun> Where to find bug report
[07:22] <kutchbhi> How to resolve : The script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart
[07:22] <kutchbhi> job, but --setParameter is not supported for Upstart jobs.
[07:22] <kutchbhi> ?
[07:23] <Dr_willis> sounds like it no longer wants the --serPrarmeter parameter... to peramatate...
[07:23] <Dr_willis> what are you trying to start?
[07:23] <kutchbhi> mongodb
[07:24] <Dr_willis> !info mongodb
[07:24] <Dr_willis> Hmm. how did you install it?
[07:24] <kutchbhi> from the 10-gen repo
[07:24] <Dr_willis> 10-gen?  some unoffical ppa/repo?
[07:25] <kutchbhi> 10gen are the guys that maintain mongo
[07:26] <Dr_willis> might want to see if the version in the ubuntu repos has the same issue.. if it works.. that would point to the 10-gen guys not having somting in their upstart scripts correct
[07:26] <Dr_willis> you are just doing a 'sudo service mongodb start'  ?
[07:26] <kutchbhi> no I am trying to start the text search feature , which can only be enabled by apssing the setparameter option
[07:27] <Moatez> how we can instale compize in crunchbung?
[07:27] <bazhang> !crunchbang
[07:27] <bazhang> Moatez, ^
[07:28] <wolje_zoekt_hulp> Can someone help me with unity?
[07:28] <Dr_willis> wolje_zoekt_hulp,  give us details.
[07:28] <Minniti> asd
[07:29] <wolje_zoekt_hulp> Dr_willis: I`m having a downloading problem
[07:30]  * Dr_willis wonders if he has to ask for more details....
[07:30] <Moatez> what is the perfect program we can by it hide the ip?
[07:31] <bazhang> wolje_zoekt_hulp, dl'ing unity?
[07:31] <Dr_willis> Moatez,  there is no perfect program to hide the ip... You can use proxys or vpn's or other methods.. like tor to anonomize stuff
[07:31] <bazhang> Moatez, ask in the crunchbang channel, its not supported here
[07:32] <bazhang>  /join #crunchbang     <------ Moatez
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> Moatez: macchanger is usefull in some cases
[07:41] <ronalds> I can't render file till end in kdenlive, + it takes 3gb of ram,
[07:41] <ronalds> All the following packages have been built with the official ffmpeg version of each Ubuntu release. If you are using some backported version of ffmpeg you can't use those packages.
[07:42] <ronalds> how do I know if I have backported version of ffmpeg
[07:42] <herman_> Hello!! :)
[07:43] <camelord> http://i.imgur.com/acQTtbl.jpg
[07:43] <ronalds> ffmpeg version 0.8.6-6:0.8.6-1ubuntu2 I have
[07:43] <auronandace> ronalds: check if you have the backports repo enabled
[07:43] <Dr_willis> !info ffmpeg
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> camelord: this isnt the proper channel to post such images
[07:43] <Dr_willis> ronalds,  dosent look like it.
[07:44] <Dr_willis> unless you are not using raring
[07:44] <ronalds> so why do kdenlive can't render file till end, 11 seconds far from completing it
[07:44] <bazhang> !ot > camelord
[07:44] <bazhang> ronalds, try in #kdenlive
[07:45] <herman_> Maybe your memory is out...
[07:45] <ronalds> I tried
[07:45] <ronalds> I have 15 GB left
[07:46] <herman_> ronalds, you can try too restart your computer, usually works!
[07:46] <ronalds> I tried last night
[07:46] <ronalds> few times
[07:46] <Dr_willis> sounds like a weird bug
[07:47] <herman_> do you have any updates that needs to be updated?
[07:48] <herman_> Anyone here that knows java?
[07:49] <ronalds> no it shows that I'm updated, I am rendering again, now smaller file for test purpoise
[07:49] <Dr_willis> thats  a broad topic.
[07:49] <bazhang> herman_, try in ##java
[07:50] <herman_> anyone here that knows ##java
[07:50] <Dr_willis> the java channel name is ##java
[07:50] <bazhang> herman_, thats a channel, join it
[07:50] <supertough> #java
[07:50] <Dr_willis>  /join ##java     ;P
[07:50] <Dr_willis> or ask an actual question in here.. and see who knows what..
[07:54] <unstable> electricsheep isn't working on raring. No window pops up. It outputs no error...
[07:55] <Dr_willis> !info electricsheep
[07:57] <unstable> http://askubuntu.com/questions/287507/electricsheep-not-working-in-raring-13-04
[07:58] <unstable> http://pastie.org/7928587
[07:59] <unstable> It seems to be downloading the videos fine. I can play them manually with mplayer.. though they don't play from electric sheep.
[08:05] <unstable> I can see traces of this problem on the Internet. I think this package isn't popular enough for people to notice. There is no bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/electricsheep
[08:05] <unstable> No one seems to have solved it yet. Short of compiling from source on your own, which works.. but that's inconvenient.
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> unstable: did you remove xscreensaver like thr url says?
[08:06] <unstable> lotuspsychje: I don't have xscreensaver installed.
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> unstable: lemme try installing it, never heard of this package
[08:08] <unstable> lotuspsychje: It's great. It uses genetric programming. The sheep are represented as an array of integers that get passed into this engine called flam3. Then the sheep can mate with each other.. to make new screen saver sheep. You can hit up/down arrow to vote. So over time the most genetically evolved sheep/screen savers win.
[08:08] <Dr_willis> heh - i heard of it toyed with it ages ago i recall. ;)
[08:08] <unstable> yea, this is an old school program. Though it's still great. and imho, there is no screen saver better than it still.
[08:08] <Dr_willis> back when screensavers where the fun thing to play with
[08:08] <unstable> The guy who wrote it spent over 10 years working on it at the time.
[08:08] <unstable> heh
[08:08] <a6cu> iran
[08:09] <a6cu> ma
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> Dr_willis: i like phosphor best :p
[08:09] <Dr_willis> BSOD screensaver ;P
[08:09] <Dr_willis> I recall some news-ticker screensaver... years and years ago....
[08:09] <Dr_willis> it was actually usefull
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> unstable: it crashes on me after 3 times downloading sheep...
[08:10] <ronalds> so smaller part of the video I tried to select in kdenlive render, now waiting for full video
[08:10] <ronalds> 30 seconds left
[08:10] <a6cu> hello
[08:10] <unstable> lotuspsychje: electricsheep --debug 1
[08:11] <unstable> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Sheep
[08:11] <ronalds> 10 seconds left, and I'm already sterting to think it will not finish
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> unstable: same crash
[08:11] <unstable> lotuspsychje: pastie the error?
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> unstable: holdon mate
[08:13] <unstable> I can see mine downloading the electricsheep from archive.org, though it's not displaying. You seem to have a different error.
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> unstable: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5679653/
[08:15] <unstable> lotuspsychje: yea, mine does the same thing.
[08:15] <unstable> lotuspsychje: I don't see a crash in there though.
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> unstable: holdon lemme picture my crash
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> unstable: http://oi44.tinypic.com/2zrqlhe.jpg
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> unstable: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=oibz4i&s=5
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> brb
[08:20] <unstable> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ushare/+bug/886714
[08:21] <unstable> I don't know what file that is. weird. I'll install apt-file and fine out what package that is.
[08:22] <TreeDragon> How do I make wacom bamboo work good? It shakes and has really bad precision, when I draw its all jaggy.
[08:25] <unstable> It is like 252 megs of dependencies to build the source too.
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> unstable: im trying electricsheep --standalone 1..nothing seem to happen
[08:30] <unstable> lotuspsychje: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/e/electricsheep/electricsheep_2.7~b12+svn20091224-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[08:30] <unstable> This version seems to work just fine for me.
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> lets c :p
[08:31] <unstable> /home/john/Downloads/electricsheep_2.7~b12+svn20091224-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[08:31] <unstable> /var/cache/apt/archives/electricsheep_2.7~b12+svn20091224-1ubuntu4_amd64.deb
[08:32] <unstable> The maintainer broke it with the latest iteration of ubuntu4
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> unstable: i need to uninstall old one first right
[08:32] <unstable> lotuspsychje: yea, sudo apt-get remove --purge electricsheep
[08:34] <unstable> The only annoying thing now is, on a dist-upgrade.. it thinks there is a new version. So it will break if I do normal security updates/patches etc through ubuntu software center.
[08:34] <ktross> could anyone help me disable mouse acceleration and change the speed independently of eachother in Ubuntu 13.04? my first problem is that my mouse is showing up twice so I'm not sure which one to change http://pastebin.com/uaJaSwm7
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> unstable: working :p and nice1
[08:36] <unstable> lotuspsychje: sudo apt-mark hold electricsheep
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> unstable: whats that for
[08:36] <unstable> lotuspsychje: Then you can do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; and it won't update electric sheep.
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> oh ok
[08:37] <unstable> lotuspsychje: Since if we upgrade electricsheep it will break again.
[08:37] <unstable> Until it's version electricsheep_2.7~b12+svn20091224-1ubuntu5_amd64.deb
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> unstable: so can it be used as screensaver?
[08:37] <unstable> lotuspsychje: yea, you can integrate it with xscreen saver.
[08:37] <unstable> I just turn it on and full screen it to stare at it when I'm high.
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> unstable: lemme get xscreensaver :p
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> unstable: i dont see it in xscreensaver list
[08:41] <unstable> lotuspsychje: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/how-to-get-electric-sheep-to-work-with.html
[08:43] <ghking> hello, is there any one can tell me why my sensors returns so litter
[08:43] <fedcab> Hello, I have problems with my monitor configuration in 13.04. That's why I switched back to 12.10. Now I'm in doubt when I can do an upgrade. Can someone give me a hint how to proceed?
[08:43] <ghking> root@localhost:~# sensors
[08:43] <ghking> acpitz-virtual-0
[08:43] <ghking> Adapter: Virtual device
[08:43] <ghking> temp1:        +60.0°C
[08:43] <ghking> coretemp-isa-0000
[08:43] <ghking> Adapter: ISA adapter
[08:43] <FloodBot1> ghking: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:43] <ghking> Physical id 0:  +61.0°C  (high = +80.0°C, crit = +85.0°C)
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> unstable: worked! tnx
[08:45] <fluffybunnyuk__> hi i have a chroot problem can some help?
[09:01] <techtronic> hey, can any one help with a syslog issue? theres nothing in the messgaes log
[09:01] <vitimiti> hi
[09:02] <l9> techtronic: huh?
[09:02] <techtronic> theres nothing in my /var/log/messages file on my server
[09:04] <l9> are you certain it should be?
[09:04] <techtronic> yeah, normally you would find iptables etc logging there and other bits
[09:05] <l9> Phttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1728570
[09:07] <l9> it looks like its a ubuntu bug report on it ...
[09:07] <l9> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1728570
[09:07] <techtronic> thanks, its not that, see http://pastebin.com/kGHCu9NA
[09:09] <penos> hi guys
[09:10] <l9> techtronic: weird... let me check mine, at first glance /var/log/messages is gone :/
 my other server, logs to messages fine
[09:15] <l9> techtronic: have the same thing here my file server logs fine, the desktop is broken.
[09:16] <techtronic> i just dont get it
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> unstable: when xscreensaver runs electricsheep i get error, another sheep process is already running
[09:17] <techtronic> i have a *nix /bsd devices and i want the logs to be put to  a central place cause i want to know whats going on my kit, almost like a mini SIEM
[09:19] <cullz> hi
[09:20] <Darkchaos> Hey Guys. How would you create a Linux USB-Stick? My first try was UNetBootIn however It was a Live-Version.
[09:21] <l9> techtronic: i have now real answer for ya, but it could look like they have changed the logger
[09:21] <cullz> I'm wondering if I can use ubuntu laptop as monitor for android phone.
[09:21] <Darkchaos> Now somebody hinted me, using VmWare and install it to the USB-Stick. However I fail at grub-install as for there is a "Error" which it doesn't say. It may be the wrong device?
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> Darkchaos: you mean you want a mobile ubuntu on an usb?
[09:22] <Darkchaos> yes, well it's not exactly a ubuntu, but indeed.
[09:22] <Darkchaos> Wow, LILO works, GRUB doesn't
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> Darkchaos: well we can only discuss ubuntu on usb here
[09:23] <cullz> Darkchaos: puppy linux or damn small linux can auto install onto USB
[09:23] <Darkchaos> Yeah but if it's a ubuntu based distro, does that make a change?
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> Darkchaos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent maybe this can help you
[09:24] <Darkchaos> Ok I'll check, thanks
[09:25] <cullz> Darkchaos: I did it with ubuntu, can't remember exactly but just used a program and the .ISO
[09:28] <cullz> use ubuntu laptop as external monitor for android via USB, anyone?
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> cullz: i dont think you can show a screen through usb
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> cullz: got hdmi on your android and ubuntu laptop?
[09:30] <changchangchangg> lotuspsychje: hmm
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> changchangchangg: im not sure though :p
[09:31] <cullz> hmm, no hdmi on android but I think micro-USB to hdmi exists? not sure
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> cullz: maybe #android or ##hardware can help aswell?
[09:33] <cullz> lotuspsychje: thanks
[09:33] <l9> techtronic: might be a file right issue
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> cullz: how about vnc from one to the other device?
[09:36] <Dr_willis> Hmm.
[09:37] <Dr_willis> My android phone has a usb->hdmi adaptor cable.
[09:38] <Dr_willis> the phone has to support the kind of connection. the mini usb port on the phones are special. at least on the S3 they are.
[09:38] <zero4kevin> hi
[09:39] <Dr_willis> moo
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> Dr_willis: and what happens if you connect it to laptop hdmi port?
[09:39] <Dr_willis> err.. hdmi on a laptop would not be a video IN connection
[09:40] <Dr_willis> I could plug my phone into a HDMI monitor.. but if the monitor dident have speakers.. im not sure how it would get audio. the headphone jack might work.
[09:40] <Dr_willis> If you had a pc with xbmc. you could setup a dlna server on the phone also..
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> true
[09:41] <Dr_willis> my raspberry pi+xbmc can play from my phone.
[09:41] <Dr_willis> actually i can tell the phone to 'play this video on  the pi'
[09:41] <changchangchangg> zero4kevin: hey guys
[09:41] <llutz> but still they won't use a laptop/PC as phone-display . just play media
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> cullz: http://joshua14.homelinux.org/blog/?p=1480
[09:41] <houdy> Network settings can be restored to initialize it?
[09:42] <Dr_willis> if you want to SEE the phones display in real time (like via vnc) theres tools to do that to a pc over the network. BUT last i looked you had to have a rooted phone
[09:42] <Dr_willis> airdroid for android lets you contoll the phone a great deal  without needing root. but im not sure it has a display the screen.. feature
[09:43] <Chiko> anyone familiar with setting up haproxy as a "service"?
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> it also depends on what cullz wants, remote his ubuntu or just slave his laptop screen on the android
[09:45] <l9> best way too controll a ubuntu media server is too use xbmc remote from the phone... quick easy and awsome
[09:45] <l9> and you could call your remote :P
[09:47] <l9> and for the underlying stuff use a ssh shell
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> l9: good ol ssh can enter everywhere :p
[09:47] <Dr_willis> there is a neat android app called 'ubuntu remote' it uses ssh to controll a lot of things.
[09:48] <Dr_willis> it can even do screenshots over ssh and upload them to the phone
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> Dr_willis: sounds nice
[09:49] <l9> the things I dicovered with using andriod to control a ubuntu desktop is that most apps are sluggish and gives off a bad feeling :/
[09:49] <Dr_willis> depeds on what you are doing i guess.
[09:50] <Dr_willis> the xbmc remotes and stuff all seem quick to me
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> any release date yet for official ubuntu touch devices?
[09:51] <l9> Dr_willis: offcourse :) i was thinking more virtual desktop control over ssh
[09:51] <Dr_willis> i cant find that app that put the phone in a window ... i used it on my older phone.
[09:52] <Dr_willis> it let you do everthing with the mouse..
[09:53] <l9> Dr_willis: while we are on this topic is there away too control the phone from ubuntu... that actually lets you have all sms mms mail and the other social stuff on your desktop?
[09:54] <robottinosino> hi i am using gnome-session-fallback and miss the ability to F2 -invoke a launcher dialog box from which i can execute binaries directly by their name..
[09:54] <l9> that would actually be kind of awsome... i am so sick of having too find my phone just too type ok. and send a stupid text
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> l9: http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/design :p
[09:56] <Dr_willis> airdroid can make the phone dial and send sms.. i think theres other apps for that also
[09:56] <Dr_willis> I would check out what Airdroid can do..  I dont use 1/2 its features
[09:57] <Dr_willis> THEN if your phone is rooted.. that opens up a lot  of other apps.. and lets you basically have a vnc session on the phone you see on your pc.
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> lets take this to ot, its interesting
[09:59] <l9> trying too avoid rooting this one. I have this habbit of reconfigure it too something it shouldnt be :P last phoner i made wifi sniffer, worked like shit as phone afterwards tho :P
[10:00] <c3l> How can I let my shell-script appear in the system tray?
[10:03] <raven> can anyone help me install my graphics driver
[10:05] <Dr_willis> c3l,  theres example indicator applets written in python ive seen.. you may have to do somthing like tha twith it.
[10:05] <Dr_willis> raven,  and your video card/chipset is?
[10:05] <raven> radeon 555m
[10:05] <raven> wait
[10:05] <raven> intel?
[10:05] <Paul_Berlin> Hi Channel
[10:05] <raven> nvidia*** 555m
[10:06] <raven> really
[10:06] <Dr_willis> tried just running that addational-drivers tool yet> in 12.10+ its in a tab under software-sources tool
[10:06] <bekks> raven: "radeon" indicates ATI, not Nvidia.
[10:06] <raven> its nvidia 555m
[10:07] <c3l> raven, get the details right and then formulate your question in a concise and clear way, this will help you get better answers
[10:07] <Paul_Berlin> I have problems installing 13.04 on my Thinkpad X230. I can't get the LiveUSB to boot in BIOS mode, just get a blinking cursor before grub. In EFI mode, the LiveUSB boots, but the installation can't add itself to EFI boot menu because of the efivars/no space left on device problem. Any hints :-)? Thanks
[10:07] <c3l> Dr_willis, thanks, I'll resort to such a solution
[10:07] <raven> there is 6 drivers here,w hich one do i use
[10:08] <Dr_willis> raven,  flip a coin? or read their descriptions and decide.
[10:10] <vinu> hello need help
[10:10] <Dr_willis> vinu,  with?
[10:11] <vinu> not able to boot ubuntu,
[10:11] <Dr_willis> please give us full detailas as to what you have done. what its doing.. and what you hae tried to do to fix it...
[10:11] <vinu> showing free space in hard disk
[10:11] <vinu> but not able to partition it
[10:12] <Dr_willis> if you have 4 primary partions allready made.. that can be an issue even if you have unallocated space
[10:16] <Dr_willis> vinu,  keep the discussion in the channel please
[10:16] <Dr_willis> most people in here ignore priv messages.
[10:16] <Sarger001> Don't know if this is the right place but i plan on dual booting XP with Ubuntu, but the thing is, i'm installing using Ubuntu first. I haven't got XP on the computer. Can i somehow install xp to a seperate partition and then install grub4dos?
[10:17] <Sarger001> I'm thinking i can but not quite sure
[10:17] <vinu> i have one partition in which i have ubuntu installed and also contain my data, but now that partition became unallocated automatically.now i am not able to boot my system its showing grub failure.please help me to recover the data
[10:17] <[FreeBSD]> Sarger001: just redo the bootloader with the xp cd
[10:17] <[FreeBSD]> Sarger001: actually no, redo grub sorry
[10:17] <raven_> tightvncserver: desktop environment does not load on custom user. it stays grey - whats wrong there?
[10:17] <[FreeBSD]> with the ubuntu cd
[10:17] <Sarger001> Hm OK
[10:17] <Sarger001> Will i have to do that manually?
[10:18] <bekks> Sarger001: Yes.
[10:18] <[FreeBSD]> if you install xp after ubuntu (on the same partition) windows will overwrite grub
[10:18] <Sarger001> OK can i insert my puppy disk after the install and then install grub4dos?
[10:18] <[FreeBSD]> so youll have to redo grub again to overwrite windows one
[10:18] <bekks> Sarger001: No. Forget grub4dos. You have to use grub.
[10:18] <[FreeBSD]> idk what grub4dos is why do you need that
[10:18] <Dr_willis> Sarger001,  why would you be using grub4dos ?
[10:18] <Sarger001> It's easier to set up.
[10:19] <bekks> Sarger001: grub is more easy. One command.
[10:19] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu can reinstall the bootloader from a  live cd and its supported here.. not grub4dos
[10:19] <Sarger001> Ah
[10:19] <Sarger001> if it helps i'm using 12.04
[10:19] <Dr_willis> OR you can use a live cd.. and backup the grub mbr via  the boot-repair tool.. then reinstall it..
[10:19] <eldrichrebello> just use the LiveCD and reinstall grub
[10:19] <Sarger001> OK
[10:20] <Dr_willis> or grab a boot-repair live cd. from the wiki page links..
[10:20] <Sarger001> So i need to use  gparted now and decrease size of ubuntu partition or do that while on puppy? I've got the puppy disk to do that with right by me and i've got ubuntu mounted
[10:20] <Dr_willis> you do NOT resize a in use/mounted partition
[10:20] <Sarger001> OK so i do it from puppy?
[10:21] <Sarger001> puppy livecd
[10:21] <Dr_willis> gparted can work from any live cd.
[10:21] <bekks> Sarger001: Backup your system, then start gparted from a livecd.
[10:21] <Dr_willis> of course if the UUID changes on the filesystem.. that can goof up grub and the system
[10:21] <raven_> tightvncserver: desktop environment does not load on custom user. it stays grey - whats wrong there?
[10:21] <vinu> helllo please help
[10:22] <Dr_willis> raven,  did you edit the .vnc/xstartup to make it start a proper desktop? I suggest somthing very very light like openbox, or just the jwm window manager for testing
[10:22] <chirag_d_gr8> hi
[10:22] <Sarger001> OK I'm going to boot up puppy now, one question, can i mess up my whole PC by doing this or can i just reinstall ubuntu onto the whole hard drive?
[10:23] <Sarger001> if it doesnt work
[10:23] <Dr_willis> You an always mess up the pc.. at any time. . by doing lots of things
[10:23] <bekks> Sarger001: Yes, you can mess up whatever is on your harddisk. Thats why I told you to backup everything.
[10:23] <chirag_d_gr8> My system is heating up unnecessarily. How to switch to integrated graphics?
[10:23] <Dr_willis> resizeing the hard drives... and the cat pulls the power plug = bad
[10:23] <raven_> Dr_willis, in my custom home directory is not .vnc...
[10:23] <Sarger001> OK and if it doesn't work my PC will never boot?
[10:23] <Sarger001> even if i install ubuntu to whole hard drive?
[10:24] <Dr_willis> raven_,  look again..   ever vncserver ive ever used  makes a .vnc directory with the password and other log and config files in it
[10:24] <Dr_willis> Sarger001,  err.. if you reinstall the os.. it will boot that os.. its not like  you have to have an os to boot the os.. to install the os...
[10:24] <Dr_willis> thats what a live-cd is for..
[10:24] <Sarger001> Ah so if i mess up my PC i just reinstall ubuntu, right?
[10:24] <Dr_willis> how else do you install the OS on a newly made pc. ;)
[10:25] <chirag_d_gr8> when I type sudo echo DIS > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch in terminal it shows me Permission denied error
[10:25] <chirag_d_gr8> How to fix this?
[10:25] <Dr_willis> chirag_d_gr8,  you dont use sudo with echo that way wthout a 'tee' in there
[10:25] <raven_> Dr_willis, yes sry it was encrypted - i have /etc/X11/Xsession and that should start a xubuntu/xfce
[10:25] <bekks> chirag_d_gr8: By using: echo | sudo tee ...
[10:25] <Dr_willis> chirag_d_gr8,  examples at   http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[10:26] <nazk> hey, ubuntu have problems with amd a4 vision? the live cd isnt running
[10:26] <Sarger001> OK guys this is what i'm going to do, boot into puppy livecd, resize ubuntu partition, install winxp into new partition, insert ubuntu 12.04 live CD and reinstall grub
[10:26] <bekks> Sarger001: Backup everything before.
[10:26] <Sarger001> and if that doesn't work and messes up my PC i will reinstall ubuntu
[10:26] <Sarger001> Yep.
[10:27] <vinu> Hello any one there
[10:27] <Sarger001> I have nothing to backup my data onto
[10:27] <Dr_willis> vinu,  state the problem and see who can help.
[10:27] <Dr_willis> Sarger001,  ubuntu one - offers 5gb online for free..
[10:28] <Sarger001> I do have a ubuntu one account
[10:28] <Dr_willis> Sarger001,  i can send you a copy.com referal for like 20gb online...
[10:28] <Dr_willis> ;)
[10:28] <Sarger001> i will see how much data is on here
[10:28] <volitek_> I'm experiencing this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-wacom/+bug/1002623 Is there anything I can do to fix it besides wait for a fix?
[10:28] <Dr_willis> dropbox. google drive.. lets see...
[10:28] <Sarger001> used
[10:28] <Sarger001> 7.3GB currently
[10:28] <chenadminlol> hmm
[10:28] <Sarger001> used
[10:29] <Dr_willis> you really only need to backup the impoorntant stuff.
[10:29] <chirag_d_gr8> haha it works thanks mann <Dr_willis>
[10:29] <Sarger001> Ah it's still counting
[10:29] <Sarger001> xD
[10:29] <nazk> hey, ubuntu have problems with amd a4 vision? the live cd isnt running... the mouse icon appears but i have nothing to do after that
[10:30] <Sarger001> Anyway, 52GB free space
[10:30] <Sarger001> i'll see how much this hard drive can stor
[10:30] <Dr_willis> 7,3 gb can fit on a cheap usb flash drive...
[10:31] <Sarger001> The best USB i have is like some old one that holds 400mb
[10:31] <Dr_willis> picked up 64gb usb flash the other day for like $30
[10:31] <Dr_willis> one day sale. ;P
[10:32] <Sarger001> 80GB hard drive
[10:32] <Sarger001> 80-52
[10:32] <Sarger001> 28?
[10:33] <Sarger001> That would be 28gb
[10:33] <Sarger001> I'll just go without a backup, hope it works and if all fails just install ubuntu 12.04 again
[10:33] <Sarger001> Can't go wrong
[10:34] <Dr_willis> makes me wonder what the other 20+gb is you got on there
[10:34] <chirag_d_gr8> what is normal temperature for linux? windows runs at 40 C but kubuntu at 70 C
[10:34] <Sarger001> PRONZ and Wine applications
[10:35] <Sarger001> okbai
[10:35] <nazk> no one?
[10:36] <Dr_willis> !nomodeset
[10:39] <nazk> Dr_willis: this is problem with amd linux support?
[10:40] <Dr_willis> nazk,  some chipsets are better supported then others.. I dont even know what an 'a4 vision' is
[10:40] <zuma> ciao
[10:40] <zuma> !list
[10:40] <nazk> Dr_willis: 3305M, i guess
[10:42] <Sarger001> Ok, i'm into puppy now.
[10:43] <Dr_willis> i dont keep up with the latest hardware any more. ;) got no $$ to buy anything.. so i dont see the point
[10:44] <Sarger001> Ok resizing the partition now
[10:44] <eldrichrebello> an A4 vision, (if i'm not wrong) is an ATI chip that has had it's name changed by AMD
[10:44] <Turtle_> Hey guys, quick question, I've got a headless machine setup with ssh and vinovnc, its been rebooted after updates but vino vac server hasn't started. I can ssh in so i can start a service, but I can't find the name of the service to start i!
[10:44] <nazk> eldrichrebello: yes, it's an APU
[10:45] <nazk> eldrichrebello: seems like Ubuntu installation have some problems with this
[10:48] <Dr_willis> you dont start vino from ssh, you have to login to start it from the desktop
[10:48] <Dr_willis> you can install and run a differnt vncserver from ssh
[10:48] <Dr_willis> OR setup vino to auto start. and set lightdm to auto login
[10:49] <Turtle_> ok cool, cheers Dr_willis
[10:50] <vinu> please help me
[10:50] <vinu> any app to recover the data ?
[10:50] <Dr_willis> vinu,  i think you need to tell the channel whats going on exactly
[10:50] <Sarger001> Dr_willis: The partition has been resized, time to install Windows XP
[10:51] <eldrichrebello> quick fix for the ATI chipset problem http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=108300
[10:51] <vinu> not able to boot ubuntu
[10:54] <nazk> eldrichrebello: radeon.modeset = 0 ?
[10:54] <Dr_willis> and.. thats all the info you are going to give the channel vinu ?
[10:54] <eldrichrebello> it's a boot argument
[10:55] <eldrichrebello> i think, i might be wrong, so read that post again
[10:55] <cfhowlett> !details|vinu,
[10:55] <leocloud> hello,my os was interrupted when I update it to 13.04
[10:56] <leocloud> now  how can i  let it  continue to update
[10:56] <cfhowlett> leocloud, interrupted updates are wonky and untrustworthy.  download the iso and install manually.
[10:57] <Dr_willis> Yep.. goofed updated can be very goofy
[10:57] <Dr_willis> and may not even be fixable in some cases.. Unless it was like stopped while it was downloading files.. befor it started doing any real work..
[10:58] <nazk> eldrichrebello: where i'll use this argument?
[10:58] <leocloud> oh man ,how can i make my os go  back  to 12.04
[10:58] <Dr_willis> (or you got very lucky)
[10:58] <eldrichrebello> nazk, when you start the installer
[10:58] <cfhowlett> leocloud, torrent the 12.04 ISO and install
[10:58] <Dr_willis> leocloud,  depends on how badly damaged it is.. surest way is reinstall.. but you may as well use 13.04
[10:59] <Dr_willis> 'os was interrupted' =? dog pulled the power?   installer crashed? PC exploded?
[10:59] <eldrichrebello> @nazk see this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[11:00] <leocloud> yeah ,now I'm using 13.04 and doesn't find errors
[11:02] <Sarger001_> Dr_willis: I have resized partition and just booted into ubuntu to confirm that there is no data loss
[11:02] <Sarger001_> everythings running just fine
[11:02] <nazk> eldrichrebello: these menus doesnt appears in my instalation... it crashes before
[11:02] <jihaifeng> what
[11:02] <Sarger001_> so, mr willis, i am now going to be back in about a hour after XP install
[11:02] <Sarger001_> OK?
[11:03] <Dr_willis> dosent matter to me.. :) i will be alseep in an hr..
[11:03] <jihaifeng> hello everyone
[11:03] <cfhowlett> jihaifeng, nihao
[11:03] <jihaifeng> where are you
[11:04] <jihaifeng> 都说英语
[11:04] <cfhowlett> !cn|jihaifenig, ?  beijing
[11:04] <leocloud> kao
[11:04] <leocloud> ni  men dou na  li de ?/
[11:05] <jihaifeng> 有没有人说汉语
[11:05] <leocloud> me
[11:05] <eldrichrebello> nazk: when the installer starts, (i.e. when you boot from the USB / whatever), that's when you use these commands
[11:06] <leocloud> there is something wrong with my typewrithing
[11:08] <cfhowlett> !details|leocloud, details matter.  please share them.
[11:10] <mchlbhm> So I'm on ubuntu 12.04 64 and updated a realtek driver for wireless. I no longer have sound. Any idea how to fix this?
[11:11] <leocloud> where can I find the update file
[11:11] <Dr_willis> mchlbhm,  updated how?
[11:12] <Dr_willis> leocloud,  i dont think anyone in here has a clue what you are talking about
[11:13] <mchlbhm> Dr_willis, I downloaded it from realtek, unzipped it, opened terminal, cd'd to package, ./ (..and I forget the rest...)
[11:13] <bekks> mchlbhm: So whoch chipset exactly do you have?
[11:13] <bekks> *which
[11:13] <Dr_willis> i dont see how a wireless driver would affect your sound card.. try booting some of the older kernels from the grub menu as a test perhaps
[11:14] <mchlbhm> bekks,  I don't really know. r8168
[11:15] <bekks> mchlbhm: Then check it using lspci/lsusb
[11:15] <eldrichrebello> try UNMUTING the cound
[11:15] <jost_> Hi, I'm unable to open any session for my user with lightm. Using gdm it works as expected. Appears like a regression of Bug #944736. How can I track this down? .xsession-errors is not even touched.
[11:17] <mchlbhm>  bekks: RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe is that it?
[11:17] <jihaifeng> china
[11:17] <bekks> mchlbhm: Thats an RT3090 then, not r8168.
[11:18] <mchlbhm> bekks, OK, I followed the readme to install the latter
[11:18] <bekks> mchlbhm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/RT3090
[11:18] <bekks> mchlbhm: You dont have to recompile stuff yourself.
[11:19] <mchlbhm> bekks,  facepalm
[11:20] <bekks> mchlbhm: you're welcome ;)
[11:21] <mchlbhm> bekks,  I'll be back. Should have come here first, but I *like* playing in the terminal. Thank you for your patience
[11:22] <eklz> hi, I would like to know if I can instal libgnome2-0 without trouble on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[11:22] <eklz> (cause I would like to use "gnome open"
[11:23] <Dr_willis> what needs libgnome2 ? not sure what 'gnome open' is
[11:23] <cfhowlett> eklz, must be.  It's installed on my ubuntustudio and I never asked for it
[11:23] <eklz> "gnome open " it's to open a file with it's default program
[11:24] <Dr_willis> isent that what xdg-open does?
[11:24] <eklz> will check that :-)
[11:24] <Dr_willis> or am i thinking of some other SOMTHING open command
[11:25] <eklz> xdg-open is great for that :-) thank you !
[11:25] <Krisiun> Hello everyone?
[11:25] <Krisiun> *everyone
[11:26] <Krisiun> My ubuntu 13.04 installation has been a hell, kernel panics often.
[11:26] <Krisiun> When I click on the network dropdown menu, kernel panics and I'm unable to do anything.
[11:28] <mchlbhm> lol I was so happy about the wifi page I forgot about my sound issue
[11:28] <Ool> Krisiun: try a long (more than 2h) memtest perhaps you have a hardware problem
[11:29] <mchlbhm> I went to sound setting and the is nothing in the output window. Anyone know what to do?
[11:31] <Kureno> Hi I'm trying to boot ubuntu 13.04 on my desktop pc but the monitor goes say's there is no input source.
[11:33] <KKing> hello everyone
[11:33] <Dr_willis> does it eventually go to the lightdm login if you wait a bit Kureno ?
[11:34] <Kureno> hmm I waited for around 30-40 sec after the monitor turned off
[11:34] <Kureno> let me try again, just going to log on the irc with my phone
[11:35] <KKing> is anyone available to help a noob out? im having trouble installing wine .. well trouble installing everything in Ubun 8.10
[11:36] <Dr_willis> why are you using 8.10 ? or is that a typo
[11:36] <KKing> its the only copy i had, and it wont let me upgrade for some reason
[11:36] <Dr_willis> i suggest downloading a newer version.. thats not been supported for some time
[11:37] <meerkat> Hello. I'm having issues with my custom keyboard layout. I use swedish and switched two keys around. Everything works until I reboot. After reboot the keys are back to the previous default.
[11:37] <KKing> my rom isnt working to burn the image or i would do that, my rom works just not on 8.10
[11:37] <cfhowlett> KKing, clean install.  it's time
[11:38] <KKing> lol i agree if its possible
[11:38] <Soulflare3> kking do you have a spare flash drive?
[11:38] <captianyipe> meerkat are you using xmodmap by any chance?
[11:38] <KKing> the usb are not reading the drive .. and it seems that the network isnt set up for some reason
[11:39] <Kureno> Ok now the no signal came (right after the wall of text). The computer is on and seems to behave normaly. Monitor have not yet started again
[11:39] <KKing> i looked and everything seems ok.. its got me stumped
[11:39] <meerkat> capri, I changed the file directly. /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/se
[11:39] <Codex1> Hello
[11:39] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:39] <meerkat> sorry, meant CaptainKnots
[11:39] <meerkat> jesus
[11:39] <Codex1> All of you use ubuntu here?
[11:39] <KKing> im trying to codex
[11:40] <Soulflare3> Ubuntu and Win7 :)
[11:40] <cfhowlett> codex, safe bet.
[11:40] <Codex1> Soul, same
[11:40] <meerkat> captianyipe,  I changed the file directly. /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/se
[11:40] <Codex1> I Need a good wine for ubuntu
[11:40] <Codex1> I Installed Playonlinux
[11:40] <Codex1> But it's not good
[11:40] <Soulflare3> hmm, one min
[11:40] <Soulflare3> Have you tried Crossover?
[11:41] <Codex1> lol
[11:42] <captianyipe> okay meerkat, sorry but i don't know much about that. I was having some real issues with xmodmap to get my keybindings to stick when i switched two keys around... its always reverted after suspend and restart...
[11:43] <Kureno> Nope lightdm never showed up
[11:43] <Hello> 'm back
[11:43] <Kureno> Waited 4-5 min and it never booted fully
[11:43] <Dr_willis> 'good wine' ? white or red?
[11:43] <Hello> ,
[11:43] <Dr_willis> it all depends on what you are running IN wine...
[11:43] <Soulflare3> lol willis
[11:44] <Hello> Somebody needs help with ubuntu open a dialog with me
[11:44] <Dr_willis> Hello,  its best to ask the questions IN the channel
[11:44] <Dr_willis> dont expect one on one help
[11:44] <Soulflare3> I think he was saying he will answer questions, not sure tho
[11:44] <leocloud> yes you are right
[11:45] <Arisawa> Dr_willis no it never got lightdm screen
[11:46] <Dr_willis> Arisawa,  and you dont even see the grub menu.. so you re not even sure its booting at all.  you do hear it making noises? hd noises
[11:46] <raven_> hello all
[11:47] <Soulflare3> hi raven
[11:47] <Arisawa> I didn't have my headphones on so no
[11:47] <Dr_willis> 'hard drive noises'
[11:47] <Arisawa> no
[11:47] <Dr_willis> unles syou got ssd's ;P
[11:47] <Dr_willis> might beits not even booting the HD at all.
[11:47] <Arisawa> I first saw the screen with the keyboard = human or w/e it means
[11:47] <Arisawa> and after that a wall of text
[11:48] <Arisawa> then it went black
[11:48] <Arisawa> monitor says there is no signal
[11:48] <irandefenceforce> Is it possible to create a usable account in ubuntu?.I created an account with tty2 but i cant login successfully.
[11:49] <Dr_willis> irandefenceforce,  and how did youi make it?
[11:49] <llutz> irandefenceforce: "sudo adduser newusername"
[11:49] <raven_> I have a problem when compiling driver for my wifi card , can somebody help me ?
[11:50] <bekks> !anyonen| raven_
[11:50] <bekks> !anyone| raven_
[11:50] <irandefenceforce> llutz: i did that and i even created a password for it.Trouble is its listed as available accounts on the login screen but once you try logiing in,its doesn't work.I even tried to give the account sudo privilleges.
[11:52] <Arisawa> Dr_willis: any idea?
[11:52] <seedo> hello, I have problems with ubuntu when it comes to recording sound
[11:52] <seedo> The internal mic doesn't work
[11:52] <seedo> Also, the brightness keys, Fn+arrows, also not working
[11:52] <Dr_willis> Arisawa,  live cd works?  sounds to me like its not booting at all. and not showing anything.  or some other weird bug.
[11:52] <seedo> Any idea
[11:52] <jost_> irandefenceforce: could you elaborate on "doesn't work"? What happens?
[11:53] <seedo> Only noise is recorded when we try to record something
[11:53] <captianyipe> seedo: is your mic not working at all or is just VERY quiet?
[11:53] <Arisawa> Dr_willis: Yea it's from a Live usb. I know it works I installed ubuntu on my laptop already
[11:53] <seedo> My laptop is Acer Aspire 4736z
[11:53] <irandefenceforce> jost_:Once you login in(provide the password for the choosen username) you are taken back to the same login screen.I hope that explains it.
[11:54] <Arisawa> Dr_willis: http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/3509/dgfdgrunningoraclevmvir.png this image come's up then there is a bit of text going all over the screen then the monitor turns off
[11:54] <seedo> Its not a new issue. The mic and brightness issues have been longstanding
[11:54] <seedo> Never fixed.
[11:54] <jost_> irandefenceforce: ok, could you please log in as the other user and try "ls -l ~newuser" on a console window?
[11:54] <seedo> I've searched a lot thoughout the internet but never got a working solution
[11:54] <captianyipe> seedo: how about we try something. Cant hurt. I had a really quiet mic untill i set its volume higher...
[11:55] <captianyipe> seedo: open a terminal and type alsamixer
[11:55] <Arisawa> Dr_willis:  maybe it's because of my video driver (Geoforce GT-9600)
[11:55] <seedo> captianyipe, my mic is not quiet. Its recording just noise.
[11:55] <seedo> okay, i will do
[11:55] <captianyipe> seedo: is it loud noise or quiet noise?
[11:55] <irandefenceforce> jost_:That lists accounts ?
[11:56] <seedo> a mid range volume, not too loud or quiet
[11:56] <captianyipe> seedo: alright, probably dont want to change anything in alsamixer then. press esc to exit it.
[11:56] <jost_> irandefenceforce: no, that should list the other account's home directory if it exists. Could be it was not created (which would explain the failing login)
[11:56] <seedo> ok
[11:57] <irandefenceforce> jost_:My main account is broken bad so i can't access the terminal.
[11:57] <irandefenceforce> But the docs under my  main account are intact.
[11:58] <jost_> irandefenceforce: Where did you run the adduser command?
[11:58] <irandefenceforce> on the tty
[11:59] <jost_> irandefenceforce: You can run it there just as well :)
[12:00] <seedo> captianyipe, any idea?
[12:03] <captianyipe> seedo, after a quick look around the fourms it seems there is lots of people having the same issue. So far no fix im afraid. As for your brightness I actually have a mate who has an acer laptop which brightness doesn't work. Ive had a good go at trying to fix it... but no joy. Anyway. Is it possible to buy a cheap microphone to plug into the audio line in as a quick fix?
[12:03] <seedo> captianyipe, Yea, sadly, Now I need to do that.
[12:03] <seedo> Brightness I was somehow able to adjust.
[12:04] <captianyipe> really? how did you manage to do it?
[12:04] <seedo> I tried one fix, that seems almost okay now.
[12:04] <captianyipe> im quite interested
[12:04] <raven_> Until ubuntu 12.04 i compiled driver for my wifi card (belkin n300 usb key), and blacklisted RTL8192CU. All works fine, but i've installed ubuntu 13.04 and when trying to compile driver, make exit with errors (http://pastebin.com/04AQ44B1)
[12:04] <seedo> I did it long back. Forgot actually, one min, I will dig that up
[12:04] <raven_> Somebody have an idea ?
[12:04] <captianyipe> ah its alright. Im not enough to bother you
[12:05] <captianyipe> worried*
[12:07] <seedo> captianyipe, editing the grub configuration file to add acpi_osi=Linux and acpi_backlight=vendor did the trick
[12:08] <seedo> Do you remember where the file called 'brightness' is situated in ubuntu?
[12:08] <seedo> captianyipe, ?
[12:09] <seedo> captianyipe, i asked you this because
[12:09] <captianyipe> hmm. im not sure where the file brightness is. But cheers for your solution, im keen to give it a go myself.
[12:09] <ackbahr> Hi! How can I ask my Ubuntu computer to ask for  preferred IP address when connecting to WiFi (but still accept another one if unavailable)?
[12:10] <seedo> captianyipe, they key binding for brightness control produced no change in the file named 'brightness'
[12:10] <seedo> that's why the brightness was not changing.
[12:10] <irandefenceforce> My ubuntu cinnamon 12 lts is broken.How do i go about repairing it?
[12:11] <cfhowlett> irandefenceforce, cinnamon isn't supported here.  ask #mint
[12:11] <jost_> seedo: I have two at /etc/acpi/events/asus-brightness-[up|down]
[12:11] <seedo> captianyipe, Although I said it is solved, there is a lil problem, when we try to increase the brightness, it is decreasing, and the vice versa
[12:12] <seedo> Jost_, thank you.
[12:12] <irandefenceforce> cfhowlett:No one home ;)
[12:12] <seedo> jost_, Actually, i didn't mean that one.
[12:12] <seedo> lemme check
[12:13] <jost_> seedo: sorry, those two contain key codes you might just exchange to fix the direction problem
[12:13] <seedo> jost_, kay. Thanks
[12:14] <foofoobar> Hi. Is there a 64bit mac ubuntu image which fits on a 700mb cd-r ?
[12:14] <foofoobar> I don't have any dvd-r :/
[12:14] <seedo> jost_, would you please explain a bit further on what to do to exchange?
[12:15] <Dr_willis> foobarba1,  use a usb flash perhaps? the releases of 12.04 and befoir fit on cd
[12:15] <captianyipe> seedo, do you mean the files located at /sys/class/backlight/*/brightness
[12:15] <Dr_willis> lubuntu Might still fit  on a 700mb cd in later reelases
[12:15] <seedo> captianyipe, Yep. That's it
[12:15] <jrib> foofoobar: you could use a flash drive or grab the minimal installer (and then you can have the packages downloaded during install)
[12:15] <foofoobar> Dr_willis, I can't use a flash, my macbook needs a cd/dvd to install from
[12:15] <captianyipe> when i do a ls on that i get /sys/class/backlight/apple_backlight/brightness
[12:16] <captianyipe> whoops
[12:16] <jost_> seedo: you could either exchange the event or the action line between the files.
[12:16] <jrib> foofoobar: although maybe minimal won't have the "mac parts"
[12:16] <foofoobar> jrib, minimal installer = server install?
[12:16] <jrib> !minimal | foofoobar
[12:16] <Dr_willis> !minimal
[12:16] <Dr_willis> ;)
[12:16] <Dr_willis> night all
[12:16] <foofoobar> okay, but unlikely to find minimal + mac? :D
[12:16] <seedo> captianyipe, Yea, I have two folders, one named acer_backlight and another one named intel_backlight
[12:17] <yeats> foofoobar: look at the link - there are several variants
[12:17] <foofoobar> I think I have to take the 64-bit PC (amd64, x86_64)
[12:17] <captianyipe> yeah. for me i get apple_backlight and radeon_bl0... they seem to contain a number of what my brightness is set at
[12:17] <seedo> the 'brightness' file in acer_backlight is unaffected by the hotkey press
[12:18] <Arch-rMBP> anyone know of a util that will do a keystroke like crtl-f5 every 30 seconds forever or till i quit? I have found some keystroke recorders but they are count down types
[12:19] <foofoobar> Is just the UI missing in the server installation compared to the "normal" version?
[12:19] <seedo> captianyipe, Those grub options set the backlight control to backlight_intel. It works.
[12:19] <seedo> captianyipe, Funny thing is that, higher the entry, lower the brightness,
[12:20] <captianyipe> seedo, alright. better not to fix whats not really broken.
[12:20] <captianyipe> seedo, yeah that seems to be the case
[12:20] <seedo> captianyipe, That's why I see the reverse behavior when adjusting backlight. :D
[12:20] <yeats> Arch-rMBP: you might look into usage of the 'yes' command
[12:20] <seedo> I'm fine with this. At least I can adjust backlight now.
[12:20] <odraencode> Hey
[12:21] <seedo> What really pisses me off is no recording possibility :(
[12:21] <yeats> Arch-rMBP: don't know how it would emulate 'Ctrl-F5', but it's probably worth a google search ;-)
[12:21] <Arch-rMBP> googling that now..thanks
[12:21] <seedo> Also, I'm currently using 12.10.
[12:21] <captianyipe> seedo: it really is worth moving to 13.04 if you can.
[12:21] <seedo> 13.04 has been catastrophic. For the first time I'm witnessing kernel panics :O
[12:22] <captianyipe> really?
[12:22] <seedo> yea
[12:22] <seedo> My internet connection is via bluetooth
[12:22] <captianyipe> i found 12.10 to be horrible. 13.04 seems fantastic
[12:22] <captianyipe> ah. now you are getting tricky
[12:22] <seedo> be right back
[12:22] <num7> what is the name of the standard terminal emulator on ubuntu 12.04?
[12:22] <captianyipe> num7: gnome-terminal
[12:22] <NETfellow> num7, gnome-terminal
[12:23] <num7> okay thx
	 foofoobar: look at the link - there are several variants < but sadly no mac version, just a powerpc version (i do not have a powerpc)
[12:24] <captianyipe> hey foofoobar, are you running an intel mac?
[12:24] <foofoobar> captianyipe, yes
[12:24] <captianyipe> what gen? im running 13.04 on a non-unibody MBP
[12:24] <captianyipe> i just used the standard i686 install iso
[12:24] <foofoobar> MacBookPro7,1
[12:24] <captianyipe> lol nice. Im MacBookPro2,2
[12:25] <foofoobar> It won't let me install from flash .. I have to use a cd/dvd
[12:25] <foofoobar> but sadly no dvd-r
[12:25] <captianyipe> yeah. I cant get my mac to boot from DVD either
[12:25] <captianyipe> i mean flash
[12:25] <captianyipe> whoops lol. I have to use dvds...
[12:25] <foofoobar> But I have no DVD-R here to burn it :D So I'm looking for a version smaller than 700mb
[12:26] <captianyipe> well that is a bother. Really, the iso has not been able to fit onto a 700mb cd since 12.04
[12:26] <foofoobar> maybe I can get the minimal-amd64-pc installer running
[12:27] <captianyipe> the pc version should work just as fine as the mac iso. are you planning on a dualboot with OSX?
[12:27] <foofoobar> captianyipe, yes
[12:27] <foofoobar> I already have rEFit set up
[12:28] <captianyipe> heh. have fun with that. I have said my goodbyes to OSX... i use ubuntu as my daily driver.
[12:28] <seedo> back
[12:28] <foofoobar> captianyipe, prefer ubuntu over osx?
[12:28] <captianyipe> yes i do actually
[12:28] <hulu> who can help me with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1179367
[12:29] <linuxranger> captainyipe, do you still dual-boot OS X?
[12:29] <seedo> captianyipe, I use a bluetooth connection for internet (Actually I tether internet from phone over bluetooth). Setting up a new connection and accessing internet is fine.
[12:29] <captianyipe> not anymore. I now dualboot ubuntu and kali quite nicely... its great not worrying about having a hybrid mbr =)
[12:29] <seedo> captianyipe, The twist is at when we try to click the already connected connection from the network manager menu
[12:30] <seedo> captianyipe, All of a sudden, kernel panics
[12:30] <arcripex> help need asap...see i uploaded image screenshot here http://postimg.org/image/a31drmqs1/ errors i experience on daily basis
[12:30] <captianyipe> seedo: ah yes, the bluetooth menu got a complete redesign in 13.04. Maybe something went wong there and there a little regression bug?
[12:31] <linuxranger> That's nice. I dual oot ubuntu and lubuntu on my laptop and rin puppy linux from a flash drive. I love how they can all boot up in like 20 seconds even though I do not have money for an SSD :P
[12:31] <seedo> captianyipe, Maybe, how do I confirm it?
[12:31] <captianyipe> linuxranger, do you have a mac?
[12:31] <linuxranger> Nope, PC. Was just asking about OS X out of interest.
[12:32] <captianyipe> seedo: well... all you can do is read the logfile produced when you have a kernal panic.
[12:32] <captianyipe> linuxranger: yeah i love the speed of ubuntu.. ol' Lion was getting a bit slow towards the end
[12:33] <captianyipe> linuxranger: too bad macs cant boot well from usb =(
[12:35] <captianyipe> foofoobar, it is possible to get your mac to boot from usb, i have tried it before... you just need to track down the grub2 efi file and place it on your usb stick with the iso image. If i remember a few german people made a nice one... however when i tried it my mac would only load the kernal and then immeaditly hang. you could give that a go if you are desperate...
[12:36] <xylon_> Hello people...
[12:36] <xylon_> Can ayatana indicators be displayed in applications?
[12:37] <xylon_> For example, if you were developing a messaging app?
[12:37] <arcripex> help need asap...see i uploaded image screenshot here http://postimg.org/image/a31drmqs1/ errors i experience on daily basis
[12:37] <bekks> xylon_: Whats "ayatana"?
[12:37] <seedo_> captianyipe, found one guy mentioning the same problem in reddit
[12:37] <odraencode> I need some help with a wacom tablet, it seems the wheel does nothing.
[12:37] <seedo_> captianyipe, http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1dbq57/ubuntu_1304_kernel_panics_on_disconnecting/
[12:37] <xylon_> bekks: A project
[12:38] <captianyipe> well seedo_, seems you are not alone then.
[12:38] <xylon_> bekks: https://launchpad.net/ayatana
[12:38] <captianyipe> perhaps you could try posting to the ubuntu fourms and see if you get a solution
[12:38] <seedo_> captianyipe, No answer to that question for 20 days.
[12:38] <captianyipe> i'm fresh out of ideas
[12:38] <bekks> xylon_: Then I dont get your initial question.
[12:39] <seedo_> I've never been active on forums. Seems like I have to be.
[12:39] <odraencode> Hey :D
[12:39] <captianyipe> well its worth a shot. there must be other people in the world who tether their phones over blutooth
[12:39] <xylon_> bekks: basically, the Unity panel displays indicators from the Ayatana project, whcih are an alternative to the system tray
[12:40] <odraencode> I have a wacom tablet with a wheel for spinning/zooming/scrolling and it does nothing can someone help?
[12:40] <kwzx_> disconnect
[12:40] <xylon_> bekks: They inlude the SoundMenu, NetworkMenu and other stuff
[12:40] <odraencode> It doesn't see to fire any events in xev either. I wonder if the wheel is working
[12:40] <bekks> xylon_: And?
[12:40] <bekks> xylon_: If you want other icons, you would have to create a theme.
[12:41] <xylon_> bekks: So basically, I was wondering if it would be possible to display one of these indicators in another app - like display the Messaging Menu in a Meesaging App like Empathy
[12:41] <odraencode> I have noticed in the tablet configuration window I can bind a key to it but I just want the default behaviour
[12:41] <bekks> xylon_: If you incorporate them as a theme - sure.
[12:41] <xylon_> bekks: I DON'T want to create an indicator
[12:41] <xylon_> bekks: err what?
[12:41] <xylon_> bekks: I think we are misunderstanding each other
[12:41] <xylon_> bekks: Or I'm being stupid
[12:42] <bekks> xylon_: You have a bunch of icons, etc. you want to use in a specific application, yes.
[12:42] <bekks> xylon_: ? :)
[12:42] <cfhowlett> !wacom|odraencode,
[12:42] <xylon_> bekks: I think the indicators are more than icons
[12:42] <odraencode> cfhowlett: ?
[12:42] <bekks> xylon_: What else are they, what do you think?
[12:43] <xylon_> bekks: I've seen them integrated in to elementaries Wingpanel
[12:43] <xylon_> bekks: definetely not just icons
[12:43] <bekks> xylon_: And what else ar they?
[12:43] <cfhowlett> odraencode, thought there might be a wacom factoid.  Nope.
[12:44] <xylon_> bekks: Basically they are a whole API to provide a newer and more unified alternative to the system tray
[12:44] <odraencode> !tablet
[12:44] <xylon_> bekks: They do their own drawing!!! It's awesome!!!
[12:44] <odraencode> That is not the tablet I was talking about :/
[12:44] <bekks> xylon_: Then it is some kind of program code.
[12:45] <bekks> xylon_: And you would have to patch your sepcific application to use that code.
[12:45] <xylon_> bekks: I know, that's what I was asking
[12:45] <xylon_> bekks: Is there and Ubuntu dev channel?
[12:45] <irandefenceforce> Is it possible torestore an ubuntu 12 lts to its original state when i installed it?.Something like a restore point on windows?
[12:45] <bekks> xylon_: I guess there is #ubuntu-dev
[12:46] <xylon_> bekks: There's only three guys on there lol
[12:46] <llutz> irandefenceforce: not really, backup and fresh-install would be easier
[12:46] <irandefenceforce> llutz:oh s*
[12:46] <bekks> xylon_: What did you expect? Devs hanging around and waiting for suggestions of users? :P
[12:46] <seedo_> captianyipe, After a bit of research, I found it is a kernel issue. Its there in all 3.8.x kernels
[12:46] <irandefenceforce> llutz:that sucks
[12:46] <cfhowlett> irandefenceforce, depends.  assume your wacom has a custom config in your user /home.  Delete the file and it'll reset
[12:46] <xylon_> bekks: I hang around on the elementary-dev channel a lot
[12:46] <bekks> xylon_: I dont.
[12:46] <xylon_> bekks: There's loads a peeps always there
[12:46] <chenqisu23> irandefenceforce: hmm
[12:47] <xylon_> bekks: ANYWAY....moving on with life
[12:48] <irandefenceforce> cfhowlett: haven't tried that
[12:48] <jost_> seedo_: The kernel panic when disconnecting bluetooh network?
[12:48] <seedo_> jost_, yes
[12:49] <jost_> seedo_: You wouldn't happen to have a link handy, would you?
[12:49] <seedo_> jost_, http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg4069620.html
[12:49] <cfhowlett> irandefenceforce, it'll probably be a hidden file and hard to locate.  The nuclear option is to delete all files under /home.  logout/login and you're back in business.  OR!  create a new user.  login to the to virgin account and try your wacom to see if the settings have gone to default.
[12:50] <seedo_> Its not fixed till 3.9.2, one of the post says. :(
[12:51] <irandefenceforce> cfhowlett:i am exploring the option of creating a brand new account on tty
[12:51] <jost_> seedo_: thanks, too bad :(
[12:52] <seedo_> jost_, It's been reported back in the days of quantal, even before raring was released.
[12:52] <amino_> Hey everyone. Is there way to fix overscan issues on an ATI system WITHOUT using the Catalyst driver (because it is so slow on my system compared to the standard driver)?
[12:53] <jiffe1> question, I am using the nomachines nxserver/nxclient to get into my remote machine graphically, I open an xterm and run `amdconfig --odgt` and this command claims X isn't running, any idea what I might be doing wrong?
[12:54] <jost_> seedo_: Humpf, guess I shouldn't have given in to the "update urge"... It's running right now. Wanted to get away from the lightdm issue that prevents me from logging in (gdm works).
[12:54] <Alberto> Hi every body i want to ask you something i am new on ubuntu and some people says me  if i want the newest versions of the programs i have to download  the most resent version of ubuntu and other says  i can install the newest versions whitout problems and others says  if i chose a LTS version i must stay whith the programs version who it have. In sintesys if i want libre office 4 for anything reazon i corrupt or vulnerate my system ubu
[12:54] <Alberto> ntu 12.04
[12:54] <Alberto> ?
[12:54] <bekks> Alberto: 12.04 LTS will receive security fixes until 2017.
[12:55] <seedo_> jost_, what is wrong with lightdm in your case? I'm sorry I didn't bother to check 13.04 too much, 12.10 is just running fine for me. Thank God I didn't just do an update
[12:55] <Alberto> I know that bekks but if i want to install libre office 4 or a newest version of empathy i will have problems or not?
[12:56] <krux> jost_, have you reinstalled lightdm to see if it fixed it ?.. maybe ?
[12:56] <cfhowlett> Alberto, and also, sudo apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade will bring in newer packages as will backports
[12:56] <valetabbi> ciao
[12:56] <bekks> Alberto: If you stick with the version from the repos - no. If you use other, foreign repos, maybe yes.
[12:56] <bascherz> Alberto: I just migrated from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS yesterday and have had no issues with anything. Libre Office and Empathy upgraded automatically. I replaced the Unity UI with Gnome. It's a little different, but still pretty much the same as before.
[12:56] <cfhowlett> Alberto, download libre office.  install.  done.  you can get it directly from the LO site.  no issues.
[12:56] <valetabbi> !list
[12:56] <jost_> seedo_: It's dropping me back to the login screen after successfull login. Couldn't find any indication of an error except for "session exit code 1"...
[12:57] <seedo_> jost_, strange, I never had this issue, login's been nice for me. Maybe a laptop specific issue? Which one do you use?
[12:57] <Alberto> wow how too fast
[12:58] <abc> can anyone tell me how to install oracle 11g on ubuntu 13.04?
[12:58] <jost_> krux: apt-get install --reinstall?
[12:59] <jost_> seedo_: dell d830. the issue appeared after yesterday's update
[12:59] <seedo_> jost_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/285693/ubuntu-13-04-possible-lightdm-bug
[12:59] <krux> sudo apt-get purge lightdm
[12:59] <seedo_> jost_, is this the issue?
[12:59] <krux> sudo apt-get install lightdm
[12:59] <bekks> abc: Officially, thats not supported by Oracle.
[13:00] <krux> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[13:00] <seedo_> jost_, sorry, need to go. Otherwise, I'd have loved to look into that.
[13:00] <Alberto> I have downloaded libre office from the official website  and i want to stay whith the LTS, dont want to upgrade versión  because i am happiest whith this version , i dont know how to add libre office 4 to repos, but if i download this from official website and stay  watching from new version i am will still fine rigth?
[13:00] <abc> bekks : u mean i won't be able to install oracle?
[13:00] <Svetlina> Hi
[13:00] <jost_> seedo: nope.
[13:00] <bekks> abc: If you still try to, you will have to run the installer and fix all occuring problems yourself.
[13:01] <bekks> abc: Ubuntu is not a supported distro by Oracle.
[13:01] <cfhowlett> Alberto, yes.  sudo dkpg -i libreoffice.deb will do the trick
[13:01] <cfhowlett> abc, wrong channel
[13:01] <jost_> krux: ok, didn't purge. However, too late now. The update is just prompting me for a reboot. I'll report back
[13:01] <bekks> abc: Supported OS are: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/B28359_01/install.111/b32002/pre_install.htm#CHDFFBIF
[13:01] <krux> kk
[13:02] <bascherz> Alberto: all support for 10.04 LTS ended last month. 12.04 is supported into 2017. I resisted upgrading also, but I am glad I did it. It is a time-consuming process, though.
[13:02] <abc> is 10g supported?
[13:02] <Alberto> Thank you very muc  guys somebody scarry me and say me i must stay whith the version 3 or i can broke ubuntu and i have peace on mind for your answers
[13:03] <bekks> abc: No.
[13:03] <cfhowlett> Alberto, best of luck.
[13:03] <abc> which db is supported then?
[13:03] <OerHeks> jost_, your ..Xauthority might be owned by root, remove this file and you can get back in >>  http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?62084-Can-t-login-into-the-system&s=287bbb93656dee7c53625958a278db98&p=323637&viewfull=1#post323637  this is an Kubuntu answer, applies to ubuntu too
[13:03] <jost_> krux: ok, reboot after install done. +
[13:03] <bascherz> Alberto: You can stay with 10.04 LTS if you like, but some newer apps or updates to them are not going to work.
[13:03] <bekks> abc: Mysql, postgres.
[13:03] <abc> else than mysql and sybase and db2?
[13:03] <jost_> krux: I'll give the purge a try.
[13:03] <Alberto> I know bascherz I use 13.04 for awhile  but i prefer stay whith lts
[13:04] <cfhowlett> Alberto, you COULD stay with 10.04 ... but I wouldn't advise it.  lack of support including security upgrades is not a happy place.
[13:04] <bascherz> Alberto: You can make 12.04 look and feel just like 10.04
[13:04] <jost_> OerHeks: jep, it's owned by root alright.
[13:04] <Alberto> I have 12.04
[13:04] <bekks> abc: Sybase does not support Ubuntu either, not does DB2.
[13:05] <jost_> OerHeks: geez, that was simple. How come gdm doesn'tcare about this?
[13:05] <Alberto> only LTS the other versions scarries me and i think have too much issues
[13:05] <abc> okay if i try to resolve the issues side by side
[13:05] <OerHeks> jost_, it shouldn't, this is a known bug after upgrade
[13:05] <abc> finally, it is installable; right?
[13:05] <bekks> abc: Choose your required RDBMS, then choose the required OS.
[13:05] <Alberto> jejjee i put gnome fallback too
[13:05] <OerHeks> jost_, it happens not to everybody, AFAIK
[13:05] <abc> I do have ubuntu 13.04 os
[13:05] <bascherz> Alberto: Don't be afraid to do the upgrade. Watch this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTw9e2n25uE
[13:05] <amino_> Hey everyone. Is there way to fix overscan issues on an ATI system WITHOUT using the Catalyst driver (because it is so slow on my system compared to the standard driver)?
[13:05] <bascherz> gotta go
[13:05] <abc> and just want some good RDBMS to develop my applications
[13:06] <bekks> abc: Thats the wqrong approach. Choose the required RDBMS, then choose the OS.
[13:06] <bekks> abc: Or use postgres, since thats a RDBMS, while mysql isnt.
[13:06] <jost_> OerHeks: Do you have the bug's id?
[13:06] <Alberto> I will check bascherz or i will try too install 13.04 in other machine now i am happy whith 12.04 if  i see it works well  i put on my machine  and chec video and thanks to all havenice day
[13:07] <jiffe1> I am using the nomachines nxserver/nxclient to get into my remote ubuntu 12.04 machine graphically, I open an xterm and run `amdconfig --odgt` and this command claims X isn't running, any idea what I might be doing wrong?
[13:07] <valetabbi> ciao
[13:07] <valetabbi> !list
[13:07] <Alberto> Good bye
[13:07] <jost_> OerHeks: Only thing I can remember was doing a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"... Same as tons of times...
[13:07] <abc> hmmm....
[13:07] <abc> thanks bekks
[13:08] <abc> but is oracle finally installable on ubuntu?
[13:08] <bekks> abc: It may be, but it isnt supported. Neither by Oracle, nor by Ubuntu. Doing so, you are on your own.
[13:09] <abc> yepp...I agree!!
[13:09] <abc> there might be some big issues like memory leakage and so....
[13:10] <OerHeks> jost_,  hard to find, all i see is this old one, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/871667
[13:10] <bekks> abc: There might be. You will face them then...
[13:10] <abc> yeah right....
[13:10] <bonno> hello all, i have the last ubuntu LTS and i have recently installed teamviewer. but whenever i start the pc it makes a connection with the internet by itself... and now i tried to kill teamviewer , yes it restarts with other PID
[13:10] <morning> On a new laptop, I want to wipe out Windows and set up Ubuntu, with a separate home partition. Regarding the EFI boot partition: "Since Ubuntu 12.04, it is possible to re-use an existing Windows7 EFI partition (without formatting it)." But if you create a new EFI partition, then "Size: minimum 100Mib. 200MiB recommended." My laptop has an existing Windows 8 EFI partition, but it's only 272 MB. Should I use it as is? Increase its size? Or
[13:10] <morning>  erase it and create a new one?
[13:11] <bekks> bonno: Then stop the teamviewer service.
[13:11] <bonno> how?
[13:11] <abc> bekks how to stop the services?
[13:11] <bekks> morning: 100MB < 200MB < 272MB.
[13:11] <bonno> now i see that the connection is closed ... and teamviewer terminated by itself
[13:12] <bekks> bonno: I guess there is something like /etc/init.d/teamviewer
[13:12] <morning> bekks: Duh! Of course! Thank you so much. (Very early in the morning!)
[13:12] <jost_> OerHeks: Hmm, the conditions described don't seem right. The update was something I tried afterwards.
[13:13] <morning> And on a new laptop with 8 MB and an ssd, do I need swap space, or should I just skip it?
[13:13] <morning> sorry: 8 GB
[13:14] <bonno> so do i delete that? or what?
[13:14] <bekks> morning: If you want hibernation, you need 8GB swap.
[13:14] <bekks> bonno: No. You stop it.
[13:14] <bekks> bonno: sudo /etc/init.d/teamviewer stop for instance.
[13:15] <morning> bekks: Understood. Thanks. My experience with Ubuntu (some versions back) is that hibernation tends to be unreliable. And an ssd boots fast. So I guess I can do without the swap.
[13:15] <abc> bekks, I am new to ubuntu....
[13:15] <bekks> morning: For me, hibernation works reliably for years now.
[13:16] <abc> I have heard about wine
[13:16] <bekks> morning: And personally, I always have a swap space. :)
[13:16] <morning> Bekks: Hmmm. Maybe I should give it a go, then.
[13:16] <bonno> now that teamviewer is closed there is nothing like that in /etc/init.d ... how do i make teamviewer not to connect to the internet then?
[13:16] <abc> can the oracle be installed thru wine?
[13:16] <bekks> abc: Which is not a virtualization technology, but an emulation technology.
[13:17] <bekks> bonno: By not using it. Teamviewer - by design - requires a working internet connection to contact the teamviewer hosts to enable you to actually use it.
[13:17] <bekks> abc: No. Forget wine when talking about Oracle.
[13:18] <bekks> abc: Use a supported host operating system, done.
[13:18] <bonno> so you tell me that it will always connect to the internet even though i am not actually launching the program manually ?
[13:18] <bekks> bonno: Correct.
[13:18] <bonno> thank you :) very helpfull :)
[13:19] <bekks> bonno: It registers itself at the teamviewer company hosts, to enable you to actually use it.
[13:19] <georgeyboi> hi , i have a question about using tor. is it ok if i ask it here?
[13:19] <schnitzel-> hi guys...iwas wondering if anyone of you has that asus ux51vz zenbook.....i want to check upton compatibility.
[13:19] <schnitzel-> this machien has some fancy parts...
[13:20] <bonno> i would ask why does it register .. (i mean what are the practical reasons) but i dont want to waste your time :P and maybe you not know//... but thanks a lot :)
[13:22] <jost_> OerHeks: Would appear then, that bug 871667 is not fixed for 12.04
[13:22] <schnitzel-> so...no asus zenbook useres around?
[13:22] <alex_> how i install de youtube in the unity web apps?
[13:22] <alex_> install youtube *
[13:24] <OerHeks> jost_, it happens not often, i have seen it 5 times or zo.
[13:24] <jiffe1> I am using the nomachines nxserver/nxclient to get into my remote ubuntu 12.04 machine graphically, I open an xterm and run `amdconfig --odgt` and this command claims X isn't running, any idea what I might be doing wrong?
[13:25] <OerHeks> jost_, maybe you can confirm  this bug, see if it helps
[13:26] <jiku> hi..
[13:27] <jiku> was trying to install a kubuntu using hard disk installatin
[13:28] <bonno> backtrack linux --> giving machine guns to monkeys since 2006
[13:28] <jiku> all went well except now when rebooting the laptop, it doesn't show me the ubuntu entry in grub
[13:29] <jiku> but only memtest is present.
[13:29] <jiku> can anyone give me the ubuntu entry based on sda1 so that i can modify my grub.cfg and make it up
[13:30] <bonno> pudate grub
[13:30] <bonno> update
[13:31] <jiku> bonno, let me do that.
[13:31] <jiku> the problem is, i don't have a LIVE cd of ubuntu. but only an ISO copied into the hdd.
[13:32] <bonno> make a live cd then
[13:32] <bonno> or live usb
[13:32] <bascherz> or if you are using a VM, just mount the ISO
[13:32] <jost_> OerHeks: done, there's always hope ;) In any event I know where to look (additionally) if this ever happens again. Thanks.
[13:32] <OerHeks> jost_, have fun
[13:33] <jiku> bonno, no. its not a vm.
[13:33] <bonno> can anyone tell me any good tiling manager for ubuntu 12.04 i use xmonad but i want to try other alts
[13:33] <theadmin> bonno: awesome, i3
[13:33] <jiku> not in a situation to burn a live cd or a live usb actually..
[13:33] <jiku> i do have live cd of only a non-ubuntu based distro
[13:34] <jiku> entring in that and running update-grub would do that job ?
[13:34] <bonno> well i cant actually see the passion people have for tiling managers.. :P
[13:34] <bonno> what live cd do you have?
[13:34] <alex_> how can i install youtube in the unity web apps??
[13:35] <jiku> sabayon 8 and debian squeeze
[13:36] <theadmin> jiku: update-grub is a script present only in Ubuntu for all I know, you'd have to use grub-mkconfig on other distributions
[13:36] <bonno> yeah debian squeeze would do the job
[13:37] <bonno> but only update/reinstall grub
[13:37] <jiku> do i have to chroot after entring the LIVE CD environment in squeeze ?
[13:37] <theadmin> jiku: That'd probably be the best option, actually.
[13:37] <theadmin> jiku: Make sure it has the same architecture, though
[13:38] <jiku> theadmin, bonno, lets see..
[13:38] <jiku> trying to do nw.
[13:39] <bonno> i think debian squeeze live cd has the opotion to install grub without chroot... as you go through the installation proccess of the live cd a step is to install grub bootloader
[13:40] <bonno> you wont use the script
[13:40] <bonno> theadmin, i am not talking about the ubuntu script
[13:40] <theadmin> Eh, sure but if we're fixing Ubuntu's grub probably best to do it from Ubuntu, whether a LiveCD or a chroot or whatever
[13:40] <bonno> yeah i agree but he/she said they dont have ubuntu live cd :P
[13:41] <theadmin> bonno: Then chroot to the Ubuntu install they already have and do it from there
[13:42] <bonno> i dont know how he could chroot :P
[13:43] <bonno> theadmin, should i install i3 aloside with xmonad?
[13:43] <theadmin> bonno: Sure, don't see why not. Unlike xmonad, though, i3's config is simple and text-based, it's not really programmable.
[13:43] <theadmin> bonno: Awesome is, though.
[13:45] <bonno> what do you mean it is not programmable?
[13:47] <theadmin> bonno: Well, xmonad's config is written in Haskell, a programming language. You can make it do about anything.
[13:47] <prx> installed a deafult installation of LAMP, where should my .htaccess file be?
[13:48] <somsip> bonno: and awesome uses lua. Ditto on the last point
[13:49] <bonno> now i see the point of all that lua and haskell books my brother has :P
[13:51] <OerHeks> prx i think it should be in /var/www/example.com/.htaccess
[13:54] <madc|SPYnX> help who are you using a virtualbox here? I want to access my Ubuntu guest to my host Win7... i want to test my ubuntu server how i can browse the localhost on my guest (ubuntu) to my host (win7)?
[13:54] <braxen> Is it safe to upgrade Ubuntu server 10.10 to 12.04? Seems shady.
[13:55] <theadmin> braxen: No, because you can't do that.
[13:56] <theadmin> braxen: You can only upgrade 10.10 to 11.04, that to 11.10, and that to 12.04...
[13:56] <theadmin> braxen: Which will take ages but in theory should work
[13:56] <braxen> then i
[13:56] <braxen> i'm screwed then
[13:56] <madc|SPYnX> theadmin, CAN YOU HELP ME
[13:57] <rocky> hello folks
[13:57] <theadmin> madc|SPYnX: Your question makes no sense to me, if you could rephrase, maybe.
[13:57] <rocky> why ubuntu system settings doesn't shows video?
[13:57] <cfhowlett> madc|SPYnX, bridge connection is what you want , but I don't know the specifics
[13:57] <cfhowlett> rocky, NO videos?  details ...
[13:57] <foofoobar> So I'm trying to install ubuntu here as dual boot on my macbook pro with the minimal cd. I installed the base system to /dev/sda4 (ext4, mount point: /) and added a swap /deb/sda5. Then I installed Grub to /dev/sda4. When I rebooted, rEFIt showed me a new icon for linux. I selected it, grub was loaded, I selected "ubuntu" and then I got a black screen.
[13:58] <foofoobar> I then rebooted and now when I select the icon I just get a screen with this linux icon, nothing more
[13:58] <foofoobar> What can I do now?
[13:58] <foofoobar> I already tried opening the rEFIt partition tool, but this tells me that the MBR is in sync, so no need to fix
[13:58] <rocky> cfhowlett, like in we see sound- inside sound we can see all connected hardware, sameway there should be video- should be able to see all hardware connected
[13:59] <rocky> cfhowlett, this way ubuntu labels the connected hardware and other applications use video input can easily the input
[14:00] <madc|SPYnX> cfhowlett, is that it bridged? can i access ubuntu on vbox to my host
[14:00] <cfhowlett> madc|SPYnX, as I understand it, yes
[14:01] <madc|SPYnX> cfhowlett, inet addr:10.0.2.15 bcast 10.0.2.255 mask 255.255.255.0
[14:02] <foofoobar> Does it make a difference if I install grub to /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda4 ?
[14:02] <madc|SPYnX> cfhowlett, i will changed NAT to Bridged... if i change that.. is it posible to acess internet in tha situation?
[14:03] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: If you have a home network with regular router: yes
[14:03] <rocky> cfhowlett, ?
[14:04] <madc|SPYnX> Joschii, i dot have any router on my... i just want to access my vbox guest to my host
[14:04] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: The VM will appear as just another computer to it.
[14:05] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: how is your VirtualBox host connected to the internet?
[14:05] <madc|SPYnX> via NAT
[14:05] <madc|SPYnX> wait i will take a snapshot on my network
[14:06] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: ... not the VM, the machine that runs VirtualBox
[14:06] <madc|SPYnX> im using a USB modem..
[14:07] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, i usb dongle.. a band luxe
[14:08] <Kartagis> !xen
[14:08] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: ok, bridged might not work for internet access of the VM then. You could add another network interface and set it to "internal".
[14:09] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, i'll try it so the scenario will be 2 eth on my vm one for NAT and for internal... ryt>
[14:10] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: yes, just remember to not set a default gateway on the second (internal) interface
[14:12] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, what ip should i put on it
[14:14] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: doesn't really matter, as long as it's not already in use. You could use 192.168.5.1 for the Virtual Box host and 192.168.5.2 for the VM, both with network mask 255.255.255.0
[14:16] <electron_> hello
[14:16] <mareczek> hello
[14:18] <g_byers> brb
[14:19] <polunchis> hi
[14:21] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, eth1 is inet 10.0.2.15 bcast10.0.2.255 for NAT ,,, eth2 is 192.168.0.1 bcast ????
[14:22] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: 192.168.0.255 in this case. Be sure that 192.168.0.x is not the address space used for your modem connection on the VirtualBox host.
[14:23] <madc|SPYnX> ifconfig eth2 192.168.0.3 netmask 192.168.0.255 ryt?
[14:24] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: sounds about right
[14:26] <kiran_> gh
[14:29] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, how i can access my VM on my host windows 7
[14:30] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: What type of access do you need?
[14:30] <Maple__> Hi, does anyone mind dealing with a clueless me? http://askubuntu.com/questions/297423/getting-more-space-on-wubi
[14:31] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: You should be able to ping the hosts via the internal connection.
[14:31] <madc|SPYnX> direct access to my browser... VM... /var/www (vm) >>>> accessing my firefox (win7
[14:32] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Could you please rephrase?
[14:32] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, i want to access my Vbox machine that is set by 192.168.0.3
[14:33] <OerHeks> Maple__, i would suggest reinstall with more diskspace, maybe this askubuntu answer is any help >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1625371&highlight=resize2fs%20wubi
[14:33] <Maple__> Hmmmm, thanks. I'll take a look.
[14:33] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, to my windows 7 (host)... the 192.168.0.3 is the guest machine that i set
[14:33] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: I known, but what do you mean by "access".
[14:34] <madc|SPYnX> i cant ping 192.168.0.3 on my windows 7
[14:35] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: What did you configure on the Network tab for the internal device in virtual box?
[14:35] <milagros> hello
[14:36] <betrayd> hey there
[14:37] <madc|SPYnX> adapter 2 (eth2) internal network...
[14:37] <madc|SPYnX> adapter 1 (eth1) NAT
[14:37] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: This should appear as network device on your Windows host, you'll set an IP address there
[14:40] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, VirtualBox Host-only network Ipv4 address 192.168.56.1
[14:40] <madc|SPYnX> subnet 255.255.255.0
[14:41] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: ok, so either change this to match your linux configuration or (better) set the linux host's address to 192.168.56.2
[14:41] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, i ping that address x.x.56.1 and got prompt...
[14:41] <madc|SPYnX> ok
[14:42] <mithunius> Hello
[14:42] <mithunius> Hello all
[14:43] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, 192.168.56.4 bcast 192.168.56.255 mask 255.255.255.0
[14:44] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: good. You should be able to ping both hosts from the other one
[14:44] <madc|SPYnX> unreachable ;(
[14:45] <rednet> gibts auch ein anfänger chanel
[14:46] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, win7 (ok) ubuntu VM (not good )
[14:46] <cfhowlett> !de|rednet,
[14:46] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: you mean it's possible to ping from win to linux but not the other way around?
[14:54] <madc|SPYnX> http://madc42.net63.net/sdf.jpg
[14:55] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, http://madc42.net63.net/sdf.jpg
[14:55] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, do you got the jpeg?
[14:56] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: nope, black on black
[15:04] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, Win(host) two active network (1) Internet... Bandluxe3.5GSM modem... (2) Vbox Host only ... 192.168.56.1 255.255.255.0 default gateway// none.... VBOX machine Ubuntu 192.168.56.4
[15:06] <netman86> I have an unbuntu 10.04LTS machine pulling DHCP from the local server. I recently set a static reservation in the server via mac address, and I can't seem to get the ubuntu box to pull the new IP. Am I missing something?
[15:06] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: Sounds good for the windows part
[15:06] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, still there?
[15:06] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: so "ping 192.168.56.4" from windows works?
[15:07] <madc|SPYnX> nope
[15:07] <madc|SPYnX> destination host unreacbable
[15:07] <madc|SPYnX> then request time out
[15:08] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: yes, had to reboot my system after update to raring
[15:08] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: strange, vm is up and running?
[15:09] <madc|SPYnX> yup
[15:10] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: does "ping 192.168.56.1" work (from windows)
[15:10] <netman86> ah, I forgot to apply the changes for my static reservation. that'd do it...
[15:10] <madc|SPYnX> yup
[15:11] <jost_> what does "ping 192.168.56.4" on the linux machine tell you?
[15:11] <madc|SPYnX> ok
[15:12] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: and .1
[15:12] <jost_> ?
[15:12] <madc|SPYnX> not reachable
[15:12] <madc|SPYnX> wait :) somethinsg is wrong i forgot one thing :D
[15:14] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, .1 ok
[15:14] <madc|SPYnX> :) but in windows not ok
[15:14] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, should i put a netmask ?
[15:14] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: sure? ;)
[15:14] <madc|SPYnX> http://www.mediafire.com/view/?atfztxdy3ygt6f8
[15:14] <madc|SPYnX> i mean gateway
[15:16] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: no gateway.
[15:16] <Litecoin_Messiah> hello, trying to get sendmail to work as it seems php's mail function is dependent on it. I am wondering which package is the best to use?
[15:17] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, did you see the picture http://www.mediafire.com/view/?atfztxdy3ygt6f8
[15:17] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: ping from windows to linux is working now? (yes to the picture)
[15:17] <Litecoin_Messiah> i just did apt-get install sendmail
[15:18] <madc|SPYnX> no :(
[15:18] <foofoobar123> Hi. I just installed ubuntu-13.04 via the minimal cd. I'm now in the shell and installed unity
[15:19] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, pinging 192.168.56.4 is not good...
[15:19] <foofoobar123> When I run "unity" I get the message that the display :0 was not found
[15:19] <foofoobar123> What can I do ?
[15:19] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: that's odd.
[15:20] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: can you copy the output of "arp -n" to a paste?
[15:20] <jost_> !paste|madc|SPYnX
[15:20] <betrayd> foofoobar123: you actually typed unity, a dispy manager should take care of that
[15:21] <betrayd> display*
[15:21] <foofoobar123> betrayd: so something is not working
[15:21] <betrayd> or you're missing the login?
[15:21] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: in windows it might be "arp -s"
[15:21] <foofoobar123> betrayd: there is also the warning: WARNING: no DISPLAY variable set, setting it to :0
[15:22] <foofoobar123> betrayd: missed the login? how should I run a command when I'm not logged in ?
[15:22] <betrayd> the dm takes care of those
[15:22] <betrayd> you can run from a tty
[15:22] <foofoobar123> betrayd: I'm doing this
[15:22] <betrayd> but not for the GUI
[15:22] <foofoobar123> tty1
[15:23] <betrayd> that explains those error messges
[15:23] <foofoobar123> okay
[15:23] <madc|SPYnX1> jost_, lost connection :(
[15:23] <foofoobar123> What should I do?
[15:24] <jost_> madc|SPYnX1: did you get my messages re paste?
[15:25] <betrayd> you need to install a dm (display manager) preferably one you're used to or whatever buntu flavor of the month is
[15:25] <betrayd> that will run unity after you've logged in
[15:25] <madc|SPYnX1> jost_, HWaddress (incomplete
[15:25] <betrayd> there might be a meta package, foofoobar123
[15:26] <betrayd> !dm
[15:26] <jost_> !paste|madc|SPYnX1
[15:27] <madc|SPYnX1> paste.ubuntu.com/5680729
[15:28] <foofoobar123> !dm
[15:28] <foofoobar123> There is nothing about dm
[15:29] <betrayd> yeah idk if they switched, have lxdm on this box
[15:30] <foofoobar123> okay
[15:30] <foofoobar123> so any further tipps?
[15:30] <foofoobar123> I would google, but I dont have a browser here :D
[15:30] <betrayd> oh ok
[15:30] <madc|SPYnX1> jost_,
[15:31] <foofoobar123> SHould I install x-server?
[15:31] <foofoobar123> This is a display manager, right?
[15:31] <jost_> madc|SPYnX1: just a sec
[15:31] <betrayd> foofoobar123: theoretically once you have that dm, instead of calling unity from the command line, it'll be something like lxdm start
[15:31] <arun_> hi guys i have a problem , my OS doesn't show up the login screen help me it only loads
[15:32] <foofoobar123> betrayd: is x-server a dm ?
[15:32] <arun_> hi guys i have a problem , my OS doesn't show up the login screen help me it only loads
[15:32] <betrayd> foofoobar123: don't install yet, somebody might reply with 'aw just get this metapackage'
[15:32] <foofoobar123> okay
[15:32] <foofoobar123> then I'll wait
[15:32] <arun_> please help help
[15:32] <betrayd> foofoobar123:  yup, do some things or post in forum when you have time
[15:32] <foofoobar123> no browser.. :D
[15:33] <theadmin> foofoobar123: Common display managers are Lightdm, GDM and KDM
[15:33] <betrayd> you got to get one a them text browsers
[15:33] <theadmin> foofoobar123: an xserver alone isn't a display manager
[15:33] <foofoobar123> theadmin: so I first have to install one of these and then I can start them how?
[15:33] <arun_> hi guys i have a problem , my OS doesn't show up the login screen help me it only loads
[15:33] <theadmin> foofoobar123: sudo service somethingdm start
[15:34] <foofoobar123> theadmin: and does GDM work with unity?
[15:35] <arun_> hi guys i have a problem , my OS doesn't show up the login screen help me it only loads
[15:35] <arun_> hi guys i have a problem , my OS doesn't show up the login screen help me it only loads
[15:35] <arun_> hi guys i have a problem , my OS doesn't show up the login screen help me it only loads
[15:35] <FloodBot1> arun_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:36] <theadmin> foofoobar123: All of them work with all common desktops, LightDM is the one a regular Ubuntu install comes with
[15:37] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, is this ok now
[15:38] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: could you switch from "internal network" to "host only"?
[15:38] <foofoobar123> theadmin: so starting the lightdm service worked. I got a screen where I had to login. But the screen looked very strange (some colors were not right).
[15:39] <theadmin> foofoobar123: Video driver problem, maybe
[15:39] <foofoobar123> Also giving my login information resulted in a change to a black screen and then I was imediatly thrown back to the login screen
[15:39] <foofoobar123> so I could not login
[15:39] <theadmin> foofoobar123: Then you don't have an actual desktop installed
[15:39] <foofoobar123> theadmin: I installed "unity"
[15:39] <foofoobar123> Or what do you mean
[15:39] <theadmin> foofoobar123: Eh, I'm not sure that would work alone...
[15:40] <foofoobar123> theadmin: what do I also have to install?
[15:40] <theadmin> foofoobar123: Install the ubuntu-desktop package without recommends to get a sanely-working desktop
[15:41] <theadmin> foofoobar123: With recommends if you want ALL the packages in a traditional Ubuntu install, is a bit excessive
[15:41] <foofoobar123> theadmin: how can I exclude recommends?
[15:41] <foofoobar123> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ..?
[15:41] <theadmin> foofoobar123: sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install ubuntu-desktop
[15:43] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, working 192.168.56.4
[15:43] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, win7 ping 192.168.56.4 ok
[15:43] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: sounds good :)
[15:44] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, ping 192.168.56.1 from linux// no responding :(
[15:44] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: probably due to firewall on the windows host
[15:45] <madc|SPYnX> wew... /var/www works :)
[15:45] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: great, all done? :)
[15:46] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, not so... but it helps :) tnx bro
[15:46] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: you're welcom
[15:46] <jost_> +e
[15:46] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, what is +e??
[15:46] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: forgot it at "welcome"
[15:47] <foofoobar123> theadmin: I installed the ubuntu-desktop now, what should I run to start it now?
[15:47] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, how about lin to win... i already fixing my firewall
[15:48] <madc|SPYnX> jost_, inbound rules.. ACtion = allow
[15:50] <foofoobar123> trying a restart, brb
[15:50] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: madc|SPYnX I don't have win 7 but you should be able to disable the firewall for the internal interface
[15:50] <madc|SPYnX> ok copy.. tnx
[15:51] <madc|SPYnX> pinging already :)
[15:53] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: try http://goo.gl/l0iO1
[15:53] <Guest20159> Hi! Can I install KDE and Cinnamon on my Ubuntu 13.04 install?
[15:54] <jost_> madc|SPYnX: ah, missed your post :)
[15:54] <linuxranger> What would you guys say is the best solution for running a local network FTP server on Ubuntu 13.04? I tried vsftpd and I found it almost impossible to get the permissions right. I don't need something that is THAT secure. Just want to share some media files with other PC's in my network.
[15:55] <IdleOne> Guest20159: yes, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop cinnamon
[15:55] <Guest20159> IdleOne, actually I dont want all the extra apps.. I just want the basics
[15:55] <XLV> has anyone tried zfs on ubuntu? comments on stability/reliability?
[15:56] <Arkhana> XLV: Well, you can always try it yourself...
[15:57] <Arkhana> XLV: What is it, actually?
[15:57] <Guest20159> Anyways to install the desktop only and not the games, kde apps etc
[15:57] <XLV> Arkhana, sure, but troubleshooting with the TB of data i have, isnt the most straightforward or effortless
[15:57] <IdleOne> Guest20159: the apps are what make the DE
[15:57] <XLV> Arkhana, zfs? its a filesystem
[15:57] <Arkhana> Guest20159: You can try another distro
[15:58] <Arkhana> XLV: Ok, but from what OS?
[15:58] <XLV> Arkhana, what you mean from what os? ubuntu
[15:58] <Guest20159> IdleOne, I dont want the Kontact, Konversation, Amarok, K3B, kdegames
[15:59] <Arkhana> XLV: I thought it was a os-specific fs
[15:59] <Guest20159> IdleOne, Arkhana how about kde-plasma-desktop ??
[15:59] <foofoobar123> So I just installed 13.04 on my macbook and it the unity gui works now.
[15:59] <foofoobar123> But I think WLAN is not working, how can I see all networks in range over the terminal?
[16:00] <IdleOne> Guest20159: that should work
[16:00] <XjhK> .
[16:00] <XjhK> hi all
[16:01] <Arkhana> XLV: Burn everything that costs a lot of disk space and what you don't need to DVD's
[16:01] <XjhK> how can I create a my own keyboard-layout on ubuntu 13.04?
[16:01] <Arkhana> XjhK: Really your own? Or just another?
[16:01] <XjhK> I'd like to modify italian layout
[16:01] <XjhK> adding some character.
[16:02] <XjhK> and replacing others.
[16:02] <XLV> Arkhana, hmm.. 2TB on 4GB dvds.. i would need 500 dvds and it would take two weeks and three dvd writers to write them, then the dvds would bork the time i would need to access the damn files a few months ago
[16:02] <Labyr|nth> Hello, I need a hand with a simple time comparison script. I'm not sure if my conditional is running correctly. I've tried string and arithmetic conditions, but my test echo won't run.
[16:02] <Labyr|nth> http://pastebin.com/A6jcFX64
[16:02] <Arkhana> XLV: do you really need that much disk space?
[16:02] <XjhK> how I'd can do that?
[16:03] <XLV> Arkhana, yes, i do, and more
[16:03] <Arkhana> XjhK: Well, start programming
[16:03] <XjhK> ?
[16:03] <Arkhana> XLV: For what?
[16:03] <XLV> Arkhana, what are you, the capacity police?
[16:03] <XjhK> I've to program?
[16:03] <Arkhana> XjhK: No
[16:04] <Arkhana> I'm not the capacity police
[16:04] <XLV> Arkhana, do you have anything to contribute to the question i asked, or you are just mumbling irrelevant shit?
[16:04] <XjhK> I know in a directory there are all layout
[16:04] <XjhK> but I don't know how I can modify those
[16:04] <Arkhana> I'm just saying that it will be kinda hard to modify it
[16:04] <XjhK> does a graphic program exist?
[16:05] <XjhK> (that do that)
[16:05] <Arkhana> Maybe, google for 'keyboard manipulation program'
[16:05] <Guest53351> hey
[16:05] <Guest53351> anyone,,,
[16:05] <XjhK> I downloaded a .tar.gz archive that would do this
[16:05] <Guest53351> Anonymous hackers,, may i speak to you
[16:05] <XjhK> but I'm an ubuntu newbie
[16:05] <XjhK> I don't know how I can install it
[16:06] <Guest53351> i rronno how it works but mmmm
[16:06] <Guest53351> okay i can see that
[16:06] <xylon> Guest53351: I'm anonymous
[16:06] <Guest53351> holly ,,,
[16:06] <Arkhana> XjhK: what's the name of the prog?
[16:06] <xylon> Guest53351: Not a hacker tho
[16:06] <Guest53351> ehmmm mmm,,,,
[16:07] <XjhK> Arkhana: http://code.google.com/p/keyboardlayouteditor/
[16:07] <Guest53351> anonymous... how can we connect to your channel,.. what is the name of it
[16:07] <xylon_> Guest53351: ?
[16:08] <Arkhana> XjhK: Search in the software center
[16:08] <XjhK> I also did it.
[16:08] <XjhK> but I didn't find some
[16:08] <XjhK> *anything
[16:08] <XjhK> I apologize for my bad english XD
[16:09] <Arkhana> XjhK: Wait a sec
[16:09] <XjhK> OK
[16:10] <Guest53351> can i ask a question up here guys ,,for anyone ,,,,where can i find annonymous hacker in some of these channel ..
[16:10] <XLV> you cant
[16:10] <DJones> Guest53351: Thats not really a topic for this channel
[16:10] <XLV> you dont find them
[16:10] <XLV> they find you
[16:10] <xylon> Guest53351: What Da Heck are you trying to do?
[16:11] <xylon> Guest53351: Go to some place like HackThisSite or HellBoundHackers if you want anonymous hackers
[16:11] <mamece2> I only have 512 mb of ram, how long would it take to get past hte casper stage on an old machine
[16:11] <Labyr|nth> Can anyone give a hand with a seemingly simple bash comparison issue?
[16:11] <Guest53351> i'm trying to have some communication
[16:11] <Guest53351> cz i'm a hacker too ,,, i know this is a wrong channel by the way
[16:12] <xylon> Guest53351:  What type of hacker?
[16:12] <Guest53351> this is my dream
[16:12] <DJones> !ot | xylon Guest53351
[16:12] <Guest53351> a white hate ,,
[16:12] <[L][U][C][K][E][> #HackThisSite
[16:12] <xylon> Guest53351:  You only find the type that codes here
[16:12] <XLV> fbi,gov is handling the communication for anonymous lately, try them
[16:12] <xylon> DJones: KK
[16:12] <Guest53351> thanx dude ,,
[16:13] <XjhK> ...
[16:14] <XjhK> Arkhana: are you here?
[16:14] <Arkhana> Xjkh: Yes
[16:15] <XjhK> what did you mean to me?
[16:15] <Arkhana> XjhK: I'm still here
[16:15] <khannnn> hi can someone help me figure out why my sublime text editor isnt launching?
[16:15] <c1n3x2m7> does anyone know how to make windows 7 display chinese characters?
[16:15] <XjhK> yep I understand it
[16:15] <DJones> c1n3x2m7: ##windows for windows questions
[16:15] <XjhK> but you said me "wait"
 : This is UBUNTU
[16:15] <Arkhana> Xjhk: open a terminal session
[16:15] <XjhK> OK
[16:15] <XjhK> then?
[16:16] <Arkhana> XjhK: type 'sudo -i'
[16:16] <XjhK> made
[16:16] <Arkhana> It will ask for your password
[16:16] <XjhK> yep
[16:16] <XjhK> after it?
[16:16] <Arkhana> Apt-get install keyboardlayouteditor
[16:17] <mamece2> how can i boot ignoring SATA slots?
[16:17] <XjhK> it doesn't find packge.
[16:17] <XjhK> *package
[16:17] <Arkhana> XjkH: Well, here goes the hard way
[16:17] <XjhK> why?
[16:18] <Arkhana> XjhK: You have to make a working program from the .tar.gz
[16:18] <Arkhana> I know how it works, so I will explain
[16:18] <XjhK> how?
[16:19] <auronandace> !checkinstall | XjhK
[16:19] <Arkhana> By compiling it
[16:20] <Arkhana> XjhK: open the tar.gz and unpack it
[16:20] <XjhK> made.
[16:21] <Arkhana> Were did you unpack it?
[16:21] <XjhK> no
[16:21] <XjhK> I've just made it.
[16:21] <Arkhana> Made?
[16:21] <XjhK> make
[16:21] <XjhK> (?)
[16:22] <XjhK> so, I unpack it.
[16:22] <XjhK> then?
[16:22] <XjhK> *unpacked
[16:23] <Arkhana> XjhK: what directory?
[16:23] <XjhK> ?
[16:23] <XjhK> in downloads directory
[16:23] <Arkhana> In example: /home/example
[16:23] <XjhK> I didn't move it
[16:23] <Arkhana> What's you username?
[16:24] <XjhK> samul
[16:24] <Arkhana> 'ls /home/samul/Downloads
[16:24] <XjhK> no
[16:24] <XjhK> strangely
[16:24] <XjhK> it's /home/samul
[16:25] <Arkhana> What's in /home/samul?
[16:25] <XjhK> the .tar.gz archive.
[16:25] <Arkhana> Type 'ls /home/samul
[16:25] <Arkhana> What does it say?
[16:26] <XjhK> ?
[16:26] <XjhK> oh, OK
[16:26] <XjhK> I type it.
[16:26] <XjhK> appears a >
[16:27] <Arkhana> Nothing more?
[16:27] <XjhK> no.
[16:27] <XjhK> maybe I would've type home/samul
[16:27] <XjhK> instead home/Samul
[16:28] <XjhK> no.
[16:28] <XjhK> also if I type with little s
[16:28] <XjhK> appears only a >
[16:28] <Arkhana> Hmm
[16:29] <Arkhana> Ok, where did you unpack the .tar.gz? In the Downloads directory?
[16:29] <XjhK> yep
[16:29] <Gibu> test
[16:30] <XjhK> strangely if I search in proprieties it sais /home/samul
[16:30] <Arkhana> Ok, what's the exact name of the folder?
[16:30] <XjhK> instead /home/samul/download
[16:30] <Arkhana> The folder of the package?
[16:30] <XjhK> KeyboardLayoutEditor-3.40.tar.gz
[16:31] <XjhK> unpacked is simply KeyboardLayoutEditor-3.40
[16:31] <Arkhana> Ok
[16:31] <Arkhana> Now get in that folder
[16:32] <XjhK> from terminal?
[16:32] <Arkhana> No
[16:32] <XjhK> OK, fisically
[16:32] <XjhK> *physically
[16:33] <Arkhana> Click on the file 'configure'
[16:33] <XjhK> in unpacked or zipped?
[16:33] <Arkhana> Unpacked
[16:33] <XjhK> OK
[16:34] <XjhK> there is not a configure file
[16:35] <XjhK> so,I need to go. I'll return in a faw minutes.
[16:35] <XjhK> *few
[16:35] <XjhK> please if you can stay here
[16:35] <Arkhana> XjhK: I'm going to quit. I will help you later
[16:35] <XjhK> wait me.
[16:35] <XjhK> Oh, OK.
[16:35] <XLV> has anyone tried zfs on ubuntu? comments on stability/reliability?
[16:35] <XjhK> so, I'll return soon.
[16:35] <XjhK> bye ;)
[16:42] <eq-> Why vertically maximized windows do not snap to screen edges?
[16:42] <Spado> Hi everybody... I need some hints here
[16:43] <xylon> Spado: howdy
[16:44] <Spado> I tired installing Ubuntu on an USB drive, but I get awful graphics performance (ATI 4770) at the point I can't play a youtube video and my magic mouse is not performing well either (not precise, lags)
[16:44] <Spado> sorry ati 5770*
[16:44] <D3finition> Hi
[16:44] <xylon> Spado: Which Ubuntu version?
[16:44] <Spado> 13.04
[16:44] <D3finition> 12.04 lts
[16:45] <XjhK> ...
[16:45] <XjhK> test
[16:45] <XjhK> OK.
[16:45] <xylon> Spado: You may want to try lighter Ubuntu variants, such as Xubuntu or Lubuntu.
[16:46] <xylon> Spado: or wait for someone who can help you
[16:46] <xylon> Better than I can
[16:46] <xylon> D3fenition: hello
[16:46] <Spado> I come from the hackintosh world
[16:47] <xylon> Spado: well then, welcome...to the Future!
[16:48] <Spado> and I kinda tried how some operating systems perform just with their hardware... but is it really that ubuntu, the most common linux distro, doesn't perform well with an up-to-date (or almost) hardware like the 5770?
[16:48] <OerHeks> ATI 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx are bad supported by the ATI driver.
[16:48] <xylon> Spado: I think it would probably be better on a HDD
[16:49] <xylon> OerHeks its ATI 5xxx
[16:50] <Spado> I can see that, but basically I will never get full performance like I used to get on Windows/Mac OS?
[16:51] <xylon> Spado: Like I said, if you're running off USB Xubuntu or Lubuntu could be a better choice.
[16:51] <Spado> I also tried installing the driver in the software center (without restarting, I don't know if I had to) but it didn't make a difference
[16:52] <ovidiu_C> hi all, is there any chance to recover and ext4 partition mounted as swap accidentaly? the mount command gives me wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda6
[16:53] <Spado> Thanks for that suggestion, the matter is: I could install on an HDD, but would that somehow succeed in giving me full video performance? I would think it has more to do with the actual driver rather than where my filesystem is
[16:54] <arun_> guys my login screen doesn't pop and I can't even login , the OS loads for many minutes... I installed the Mac OS X theme so... please help me
[16:55] <arun_> guys my login screen doesn't pop and I can't even login , the OS loads for many minutes... I installed the Mac OS X theme so... please help me
[16:55] <eljoest> ovidiu_C: might want to try this: http://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/repair-a-broken-ext4-superblock-in-ubuntu/
[16:56] <baby> ciao a tutti
[16:56] <baby> !list
[16:58] <ovidiu_C> eljoest: thanks but as I see now is not the superblock broken, I think is the partition
[16:58] <jeffszusz> hi guys; I'm trying to change my DNS servers on ubuntu server 13.04 to google's public DNS because whatever i've got now isn't successfully resolving; unfortunately, the instructions i found on askubuntu don't appear to work. I tried editing resolv.conf but that says it will be overwritten, so i tried editing dhclient.conf and restarting but nothing changed.
[16:58] <jeffszusz> anyone point me in a better direction?
[16:59] <seronis> is it possible to just swap out the file explorer?
[16:59] <rohdef> how is nginx able to start after I've run: # sudo service nginx stop # sudo aptitude purge nginx* and restarted my computer
[17:01] <eljoest> jeffszusz: Google a nice howto: https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using (search "ubuntu" on the site)
[17:02] <eljoest> ovidiu_C: you mean the whole partition was used as swap and now the partition table is gone?
[17:03] <kinglaaa> Hi. Anyone in here using a laptop with intel/nvidia hybrid graphics? The new nvidia driver 319 is said to support this natively so no need for bumblebee.
[17:03] <ovidiu_C> something like that
[17:03] <ovidiu_C> :))
[17:03] <Spado> anybody on ATI drivers?
[17:04] <jeffszusz> eljoest: I know how the DNS servers work, and googled how to change those settings in 13.04, but the results I found and followed haven't been successful. Some are outdated from 12.04 but I tried them anyway and the only one specifically for 13.04 that I found was to edit dhclient.conf and that didn't get it done.
[17:04] <seronis> jeffszusz: i just click on my wireless icon in the system tray and choose 'edit'.  Then select the network im connected to and in the IPv4 and IPv6 tabs enter the goog DNSs
[17:04] <arun_> guys can anyone hear me
[17:04] <arun_> ??
[17:05] <jeffszusz> seronis: Yeah I do that on my desktop as well, this is a remote server with no GUI
[17:05] <eljoest> jeffszusz: The howto ("Changing DNS server settings on Ubuntu") still works.
[17:05] <arun_> guys can anyone hear me??
[17:05] <arun_> guys can anyone hear me??
[17:05] <kinglaaa> no
[17:06] <kinglaaa> In Space no one hears you scream.
[17:06] <arun_> hahaha
[17:06] <seronis> and in IRC, people /ignore you the second you multi spam stuff
[17:06] <eljoest> jeffszusz: The button text is just "options" instead of "edit"
[17:07] <seronis> eljoest:  no buttons.. no gui
[17:07] <jeffszusz> eljoest: it says to edit /etc/resolv.conf, but resolv.conf has a comment that says not to edit it manually because it will be overwritten
[17:07] <eljoest> jeffszusz: please use the example for "Changing DNS server settings on Ubuntu"
[17:07] <arun_> hey my login screen doesn't pop and the OS always loads a lot but doesn't pop the login screen help me please
[17:07] <beak_> greetings, I wish to install ati drivers on my laptop, but when I do a search, there are many pages that discuss this. I do not know which ones to trust
[17:07] <jeffszusz> eljoest: I don't have Network Manager because I'm on Ubuntu Server
[17:08] <ovidiu_C> eljoest: any hope in recovering the data?
[17:09] <beak_> Is there a definitive page that instructs to install ati drivers?
[17:09] <OerHeks> arun_, simple, logout and you have the loginscreen, or go into system settings > user accounts > disable autologin
[17:09] <arun_> OerHeks: no man I can't even login
[17:10] <OerHeks> beak_, goto softwarecenter > software sources > last [tab]  additional drivers to install ati driver
[17:10] <arun_> OerHeks: the thing is that I install a theme
[17:10] <arun_> OerHeks: and it brought the result
[17:10] <jeffszusz> I have followed the instructions for changing DNS using the command-line, editing the "prepend domain-name-servers" directive in dhclient.conf but those settings don't seem to have taken effect
[17:11] <OerHeks> arun_, oke , your ..Xauthority might be owned by root, remove this file and you can get back in >>  http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?62084-Can-t-login-into-the-system&s=287bbb93656dee7c53625958a278db98&p=323637&viewfull=1#post323637  this is an Kubuntu answer, applies to ubuntu too
[17:11] <eljoest> ovidiu_C: I'm guessing it's still there, otherwise the config shouldn't be overwritten
[17:11] <eljoest> jeffszusz: I'm guessing it's still there, otherwise the config shouldn't be overwritten
[17:12] <eljoest> ovidiu_C: sorry, wrong prefix. recovering the partition table is possible but tricky.
[17:12] <seronis> jeffszusz: after editing the file you'll likely need to restart the network service  (i dont know how)
[17:13] <jeffszusz> seronis: i restarted the whole computer. my dhclient.conf file is still reflecting my changes.
[17:13] <eljoest> ovidiu_C: if you're lucky http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=370121 will work
[17:14] <beak_> OerHeks, There is no such option
[17:14] <beak_> I have an ATI HD 3200 graphics card
[17:14] <schnitzel--> i guys. i have an external subwoofer for my notebook. obv it does not work on ubuntu. anybody knows how to fix it?
[17:15] <arun_> OerHeks: hey in this case the login screen is prompted but in mine not
[17:15] <OerHeks> beak_, ATI 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx are bad supported by the ATI driver.
[17:16] <seronis> jeffszusz:   google says you should be editing  " /etc/resolv.conf"
[17:16] <zoktar> Hello, im trying to get my network to start up before mounting anything after /, so that if a mount fails, i can still ssh in to the box, how do i change upstart for that?.
[17:16] <OerHeks> beak_, arun_ then i have no clue :-(
[17:16] <OerHeks> arun_,  ^
[17:16] <arun_> OerHeks: yes
[17:16] <arun_> OerHeks: please me man
[17:17] <arun_> OerHeks: please help me man
[17:17] <beak_> My computer does not give me the option to install ati drivers, so I will have to do it manually. I have an ati hd 3200 graphics card, 64 bit system. Which is a good document to follow?
[17:18] <arun_> there is something error to load lmdm i guess
[17:18] <OerHeks> arun_, all i can think of, is boot in recoverymode, ( hold shift @ boot to enter grub2 menu)  and remove the theme.
[17:19] <Spado> I was wondering about ATI drivers too
[17:19] <OerHeks> i am not fond of themes, they can break your system if they do not come from the official repository's
[17:19] <arun_> ok
[17:20] <arun_> How to restore the mdm files
[17:20] <arun_> metacity .blah blah blah
[17:20] <arun_> ??
[17:20] <arun_>  please help me restore the theme
[17:20] <Spado> Could somebody point out if there are ATI drivers for Unity :)?
[17:21] <Carl_> Ohmygawd, Macpup is wayyyyy harder to use than I thought lol
[17:21] <Carl_> Insanely fast though.
[17:21] <Carl_> @spado/arun No idea friends
[17:21] <BluesKaj> !ati | Spado
[17:22] <arun_> hey my login screen doesn't pop and the OS always loads a lot but doesn't pop the login screen help me please
[17:22] <seronis> jeffszusz: more specifically the way i understood the instructions was you should edit resolv.conf then 'additionally' edit dhclient.conf before rebooting the service/computer
[17:22] <OerHeks> Spado, check first on that page from BluesKaj if your ati 3200 is supported ( i think not)
[17:23] <Carl_> So when you dual-boot, does it boot both OS's or...?
[17:24] <jeffszusz> seronis: tried editing resolv.conf; reboot -does- rewrite it.
[17:24] <jeffszusz> trying resolv.conf.d/base, will see if that works out
[17:25] <arun_> hey my login screen doesn't pop and the OS always loads a lot but doesn't pop the login screen help me please
[17:25] <arun_> hey my login screen doesn't pop and the OS always loads a lot but doesn't pop the login screen help me please
[17:25] <arun_> hey my login screen doesn't pop and the OS always loads a lot but doesn't pop the login screen help me please
[17:25] <FloodBot1> arun_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:26] <zastaph> how do I find the actual cause for "System program problem detected" dialog ?
[17:26] <schnitzel--> i guys. i have an external subwoofer for my notebook. obv it does not work on ubuntu. anybody knows how to fix it?
[17:26] <seronis> jeffszusz: im not clear minded enough to tell how significant it is.. but maybe  'man resolvconf'  can help too
[17:28] <jeffszusz> seronis: changing resolv.conf.d/base worked wonders
[17:28] <seronis> outstanding =-)
[17:29] <XLV> schnitzel--, why wouldnt it work on ubuntu? its not like its software setting that makes it work, a cut off filter for freqs below a threshold are sent to the subwoofer
[17:29] <jeffszusz> thanks for trying to help :)
[17:30] <XLV> schnitzel--, ah, external... does it use analog sound out, digital, or usb?
[17:30] <seronis> jeffszusz:  im only 2.5 weeks into using xubuntu.  more i try to help others more i'll learn in the process
[17:31] <schnitzel--> XLV, http://www.ultrabookreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/external-subwoofer.jpg
[17:32] <schnitzel--> XLV,  i am not sure...is it digital?
[17:32] <platzhirsch> My music, pictures, etc. are on another hard-drive, which is encrypted. I have modified the .config/user-dirs.dir to point to them, unfortunately, after relogging in, the modifications in .config.user-dirs.dir are resetted to $HOME. It seems not to work if, at startup, the hard-drive is not decrypted, any idea how to approach this?
[17:32] <XLV> schnitzel--, from the picture seems its just analog sound out
[17:33] <XLV> schnitzel--, http://sonicmaster.asus.com/global/n5/features/
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> platzhirsch: could make symlinks instead.
[17:33] <platzhirsch> ActionParsnip: tried that already, same result.. unfotunately
[17:34] <schnitzel-->   XLV  thats it....any ideas how to get it working?
[17:34] <platzhirsch> is mounting the hard drive coupled with attempting to decrypt it?
[17:34] <XLV> schnitzel--, it says in that asus page it involves hardware and software processing
[17:34] <platzhirsch> if I could auto-mount it at start up without getting a prompt to enter the passphrase that would be a viable solution
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> platzhirsch: so you deleted the standing folders and made symlinks? The current config of user-dirs.dir will be correct for your needs. I dont see how that can possible yield the same result in any way
[17:35] <platzhirsch> ActionParsnip: yes, well I am not sure. But it seems the program parsing config-dirs.dir follows the symlink, which is not possible while the drive is unmounted/encrypted
[17:35] <schnitzel--> thanks XLV . i am going to read everything i can find...:D
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> platzhirsch: you mount the partition too, not the drive
[17:35] <XLV> schnitzel--, if its some preculiar software used by asus and b&o http://www.icepower.bang-olufsen.com/en/news/news?id=40 then it will take specific linux sypport to make it work
[17:36] <platzhirsch> ActionParsnip: true
[17:37] <XLV> schnitzel--, http://askubuntu.com/questions/189304/no-sound-from-external-subwoofer-sonic-master-on-an-asus-n76vm
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> platzhirsch: id have figured symlinks would be ok. is encryptfs mounted in fstab?
[17:38] <schnitzel--> XLV,  yes. reading that right now. thanks
[17:39] <platzhirsch> ActionParsnip: no, it seems like not
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> platzhirsch: its one way to do it I guess. If the links are marked as 'bad' does the folder get redirected then?
[17:41] <platzhirsch> ActionParsnip: I will try it with fstab. Redirected to where? I think not, I just receive an error
[17:41] <platzhirsch> the side-effect is, that the Music, Pictures, etc. bookmarks are missing in nautilus
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> platzhirsch: do you have the panel set to show?
[17:43] <platzhirsch> ActionParsnip: Panel set? The upper bar?
[17:43] <platzhirsch> yes..
[17:46] <sanjeb> hello, need help... I started to format my external harddisk and stopped at 0.4% and it stopped to be detected. can someone help pls?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> platzhirsch: no, the bookmark style bar on the left.
[17:47] <roasted>  Anybody familiar with the Power Statistics program? I noticed my battery capacity went from 5 hours to 2 hours on full charge, literally, within 3 days. In Power Statistics it says 96% charge, 48% capacity. I'm wondering if that capacity is something that can be changed with a power drain/charge of the battery or if that means my nearly-brand-new battery is already on the downward slope.
[17:47] <sanjeb> cant find it on my ubuntu and windows sees it on device manager and cant do anything with it
[17:47] <beak_> Does any one know the documentation to install ati drivers for ubuntyu 13? Some gave documents for 12, but that is not what I need
[17:47] <sanjeb> want to format it
[17:47] <ziorx> roasted: have a look at powertop
[17:47] <platzhirsch> ActionParsnip: yes
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: check the connection inside the system is solid (with system off). Also check you RAM is healthy
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: is the drive usb based?
[17:48] <sanjeb> yes
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> platzhirsch: then it should show bookmarks
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: why was that not in your initial question?
[17:49] <roasted> ziorx: installing now.
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: why did I have to ask what connectivity the drive has?
[17:49] <ziorx> with powertop you will be able to see which programms consume alot of engery
[17:49] <jaknyn> I have installed an AMD catalyst driver, now my display manager isn't working. How do I uninstall it and use the default drivers?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: is it usb3 or usb2?
[17:50] <sanjeb> usb3
[17:50] <jaknyn> 1
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: can you answer my other questions please
[17:50] <sanjeb> Transcent is its brand
[17:50] <sanjeb> it is well connected
[17:50] <beak_> Is this a reliable document to install AMD drivers? http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/install-ati-amd-catalyst-drivers-in.html
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> jaknyn: what radeon gpu do you have?
[17:51] <sanjeb> RAM is healthy
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: can you answer my previous questions please
[17:51] <roasted> ziorx: will powertop tell me simply what's using battery, or will it analyze the battery to tell me what kind of health status it has?
[17:51] <sylar_5> sanjeb: what do you mean by "windows sees it in device manager but can't use it"? does it show up in disk manager at all or not?
[17:51] <roasted> ziorx: I'm concerned that the battery itself is like, half shot somehow.
[17:52] <sanjeb> it shows in the disk manager but not in the explorer
[17:52] <ziorx> powertop will list which devices or programms use energy
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: in future. give as many details as possible. we cannot see your system so you have to fill us in, ok?
[17:52] <ziorx> just run it via "sudo powertop"
[17:52] <roasted> ziorx: nice. I'm a little more concerned about the health of the battery though.
[17:52] <jaknyn> ActionParsnip: ATI Radeon HD 6450
[17:52] <ziorx> hm okay
[17:52] <ziorx> Do you use unity
[17:52] <sylar_5> sanjeb: and how does it appear in disk manager?
[17:52] <roasted> ziorx: I know, I'm looking it over now. I just wasn't sure if there was something else I can use powertop for to check the health.
[17:52] <roasted> ziorx: yes
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: what is the output of: car /etc/issue
[17:53] <ziorx> Well I can't help you then, sorry.
[17:53] <sanjeb> ok, sorry im not that much smart on computer problems
[17:53] <roasted> ziorx: why would the DE have anything to do with battery problems
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> jaknyn: hmm, weird. should be ok. you can uninstall the package that gave the driver
[17:53] <sanjeb> "car /etc/issue"?
[17:53] <jaknyn> ActionParsnip: no, I downloaded it off the internet and ran it
[17:53] <sanjeb> oh
[17:53] <jaknyn> it was a catalyst driver
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> sanjeb  cat /etc/issue
[17:53] <sanjeb> 1 sec
[17:53] <sylar_5> sanjeb: which OS are you currently using?
[17:53] <ziorx> you can look into xfce4-power-manager
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: you still knew it was external. it coukd have been pata, sata, scsi, firewire or anything. it kunda makes a difference
[17:54] <sanjeb> UBUNTU 12.04
[17:54] <jaknyn> ActionParsnip: I don't know how to uninstall it. :(
[17:54] <ziorx> this programm will tell you how your battery is doing
[17:54] <ziorx> but I have to leave now
[17:54] <roasted> ziorx: would that power manager simply let me control power usage, or would it give me detailed info on the battery condition
[17:54] <roasted> oh I see
[17:54] <roasted> thanks
[17:54] <ziorx> both
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> jaknyn: not sure using that method, there is a package to install it using ubuntu itself rather than manually downloading
[17:55] <ziorx> xfce4-power-information will provide the information about your batterys life
[17:55] <sylar_5> sanjeb: does the device and/or the partition appear in /dev ?
[17:55] <jaknyn> ...
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: does the system have a make and model?
[17:56] <beak_> It is increasingly clear that non-libre linux has wayy to many problems
[17:56] <sanjeb> when I typed /dev it gave me the following "bash: /dev: Is a directory
[17:56] <sanjeb> "
[17:56] <sylar_5> ls /dev/sd*
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> beak: depends on needs
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: have you tried in a usb 2 port?
[17:56] <sanjeb> yes
[17:57] <beak_> ActionParsnip, I wanted to install an amd/ati driver, and it seems to be like asking to split atoms.
[17:57] <sanjeb> same result
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: does the system have a make and model?
[17:57] <beak_> This is one of the many non-libre issues
[17:57] <sanjeb> make or model?
[17:57] <sylar_5> sanjeb: what does "ls /dev/sd*" return?
[17:58] <ziorx> roasted: I found something else
[17:58] <ziorx> try acpi -i
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> beak_: there is a packaged version for amd drivers. you will need the legacy ppa one for 2xxx 3xxx and 4xxx gpus
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: both please
[17:58] <sanjeb> /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda5  /dev/sdb  /dev/sdd
[17:58] <beak_> ActionParsnip, Where do I find it?
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> beak_: do you have one of those GPUs?
[17:59] <roasted> ziorx: thanks for the insight. I don't want to hold you up, but I'll give that a shot right now. :)
[17:59] <beak_> ATI HD 3200
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> beak_: you will find it online then
[17:59] <beak_> ActionParsnip, Oh, you mean just instyall the right stuff?
[17:59] <sanjeb> well, the device is a Transcend StoreJet 25H3
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: is your system a Dell, HP or something like that?
[17:59] <sanjeb> USB 3.0
[17:59] <sanjeb> 500 GB
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: the drive is moot
[17:59] <ziorx> Well im gone now
[17:59] <roasted> ziorx: looks like that does what the Ubuntu Power Statistics program does, because it gave me identical output via terminal with acpi -i..... Battery 0: design capacity 5139 mAh, last full capacity 2515 mAh = 48%
[17:59] <sanjeb> its a Toshiba
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> beak_: yes
[18:00] <beak_> ActionParsnip, Oh thanks!
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: then that is the "make"
[18:00] <sanjeb> NB510 Netbook
[18:00] <sanjeb> oh, oks
[18:00] <sylar_5> sanjeb: how many disks/usb keys/storages are connected to your computer?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: that is the "model" which is what I asked you earlier.....right?
[18:01] <sanjeb> yes
[18:01] <sylar_5> sanjeb: (connected includes also internal drives)
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: toshiba always have dumb acpi implementations
[18:01] <sanjeb> I have only the concerned device connected via USB
[18:02] <sylar_5> ActionParsnip: He was formatting, and aborted it. I guess it's just not well-formatted.
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: set the usb to legacy mode, it may help
[18:02] <sanjeb> the windows laptop is a Sony Vaio
[18:02] <sylar_5> sanjeb: so there's no internal drive?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> sylar_5: that wouldnt mater, it is a fresh format which would remive any issue like thtlat
[18:03] <sanjeb> how do I set the usb to legacy mode?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: do you have the latest BIOS?
[18:03] <sanjeb> how do I check for latest BIOS?
[18:04] <sylar_5> sanjeb: did you try two different computers?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: you could always eject the drive and format it in Windows, im guesing you want to use ntfs to allow you to use it in both OSes
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: check latest bios on manufacturers site. you are clearly not too hot with computers so I wouldnt bother
[18:05] <sanjeb> there was a managing software in the device, I used it to format it and stopped it at 0.4%, then it stopped being read on computers
[18:06] <sanjeb> Styler_5 , yes I tried it on an UBUNTU operated computer and on a windows operated computer
[18:06] <Jeruvy> Trying to ping and cannot, and its not working.  Ping works everywhere else except IN to this box.
[18:07] <sylar_5> sanjeb: install and start gparted - does your hdd appear in there (a device of the correct size, not /sda*) ?
[18:08] <Jeruvy> Trying to ping and cannot..  Ping works everywhere else except IN to this box.  What is blocking these pings?  How do I ensure no firewall is running?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: format it in windows is my suggestion
[18:08] <sanjeb> @Styler_5 its an sda, going to install gparted now
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: can you ping IPs or is it names and IPs you cannot ping?
[18:09] <Jeruvy> ActionParsnip only outbound works, I cannot ping into it (strickly IP)
[18:10] <sanjeb> I want to format it on windows but I cant find a way to do that, only way I saw the device was through "device manager"
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> sanjeb: ask in ##windows
[18:10] <sanjeb> ok, thanks alot for your help :)
[18:11] <seronis> Jeruvy: nearly every router i've owned blocks incoming pings by default
[18:11] <seronis> check yours
[18:12] <Jeruvy> seronis All pings on network (about 15 machines) work fine except this one box.
[18:13] <seronis> ah.  not router then
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: is the box running any server services?
[18:15] <Jeruvy> ActionParsnip its a server
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: ok, what services does it give?
[18:17] <linaro> hi
[18:20] <Jeruvy> ActionParsnip ssh sysklogd klogd smbd
[18:20] <pc-moon> i have samsung ativ without kybord , i wanna install ubuntu , but i dont know how i change boot to usb
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: can you ssh to the box?
[18:21] <Jeruvy> ActionParsnip yes
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: then i wouldnt worry about ping. sounds like you are blocking icmp
[18:21] <Jeruvy> ActionParsnip I need to unblock it :)
[18:22] <Jeruvy> ActionParsnip I have 'sudo ufw disable' but that didn't help
[18:22] <yofun> how do i install deb files via termial? the software center is slo
[18:22] <yofun> slow*
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6995/how-to-enable-ufw-firewall-to-allow-icmp-response
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> yofun: sudo dpkg -i filenane.deb
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1431990
[18:27] <Jeruvy> ActionParsnip, thanks, didn't help.
[18:29] <beak_> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu no longer supports, even via ppa, ATI Radeon HD 3200. The official suggestion is to downgrade to 12.04 LTS to enable those drivers
[18:30] <beak_> ActionParsnip, typical of non-libre Linux
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> beak_: so you used this: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: you get the idea
[18:32] <beak_> ActionParsnip, This strongly advises agains it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2139644
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> well, 12.04 is LTS
[18:33] <beak_> ActionParsnip, I realize this is AMD's fault, not really Ubuntu
[18:34] <SuperLag> Is there a way to rotate only a single page, of a multiple-page PDF?
[18:34] <beak_> ActionParsnip, I had best install Trisquel
[18:34] <beak_> Lesson learned
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> beak_: i think their support is still a bit halfass, i always buy nvidia or intel
[18:35] <SuperLag> Document Viewer/Evince doesn't seem to want to do it. If I rotate one page, it rotates them all. :/
[18:35] <beak_> ActionParsnip, The nouveau group does well with Nvidia
[18:35] <SuperLag> Acrobat Reader rotates them all, as well.
[18:35] <beak_> ActionParsnip, I am impressed with nouveau, I had a desktop with them. But this proprietary crap is frustrating
[18:36] <beak_> ActionParsnip, I mean desktop with a Geforce card
[18:36] <beak_> (needs more coffee)
[18:37] <BluesKaj> nouveau is better than most ppl think ,it's good alternative to the nvidia drivers that seem to be broken
[18:37] <Dabloons> hello
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> beak_: my 6150 has been flawless since gutsy
[18:37] <SuperLag> beak_: I'm getting a Thinkpad W530. It has an Nvidia Quadro K1000M. I may have issues. Depends on if the BIOS will allow me to lock video to the Intel or the Nvidia, rather than forcing a dynamic switching between the two.
[18:38] <beak_> ActionParsnip, My HP6535b ought to be flawless, but is clearly not
[18:38] <BluesKaj> SuperLag, , well good luck with that
[18:39] <BluesKaj> SuperLag, you'll definitely have issues onb  ubuntu
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> superlag: look into bumblebee
[18:39] <SuperLag> BluesKaj: what makes you say that? I've read that the BIOS/firmware gives you the option to pick one or the other... and if that's the case, then problem solved.
[18:41] <BluesKaj> SuperLag, what you read and reality seem to be 2 different things with dual graphics atm ...some users can make it work with bumble bee and some can't , it's a tossup
[18:42] <cellitux> hello, has someone experiences with ubuntu 12.10 and lenovo u410 touchpad?
[18:43] <Jeruvy> ActionParsnip ' iptables -F INPUT' worked.  Pings are working.    Thanks for the help.
[18:44] <mobile> hey
[18:44] <koramati> Hi
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: why would you need ping so bad?
[18:44] <mobile> was wondering if anyone is using irssi?
[18:45] <mobile> It's my first time using a terminal IRC
[18:45] <koramati> is any one know how to creations using Gparted
[18:45] <th0r> !anyone
[18:46] <mobile> haha forgot about ubottu
[18:46] <mobile> it's been a while
[18:46] <koramati> i am unable to create extended  or logical partions using gparted
[18:46] <koramati> is any one have idea
[18:47] <sylar_5> koramati: how many partitions does the disk have?
[18:47] <Jeruvy> ActionParsnip, to monitor status.
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> koramati, Take a screenshot of gparted and imagebin it.
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> jeruvy: i see, id use an actual client app, something like snmp
[18:47] <koramati> ok
[18:51] <dmytro> history
[18:52] <mobile> part
[18:54] <koramati> wilee-nilee : how i can share image please
[18:55] <sylar_5> koramati: upload it to some server and give a link
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | koramati
[18:55] <shock> koramati: use imgur.com
[18:57] <koramati> Hi All,
[18:57] <koramati> http://imgur.com/14TrbP9  -this the link
[18:57] <koramati> could you please have a look and advise me
[18:58] <Ben64> how much ram do you have
[18:58] <sylar_5> koramati: you can only have 4 partitions
[18:59] <koramati> like windows we can't go for multple partions ?
[18:59] <sylar_5> but: an extended partition can hold additional partitions (like /dev/sda2 is holding /dev/sda5
[18:59] <koramati> ok , great .
[18:59] <sylar_5> koramati: your /dev/sda3 partition is completely empty?
[18:59] <koramati> how i can create it
[19:00] <sylar_5> sry meant /dev/sda4
[19:00] <sylar_5> the one you labled "Movies"
[19:00] <koramati> yes ,
[19:00] <sylar_5> koramati: delete it, create an extended partition using all the available space
[19:00] <koramati> can i make this as extended
[19:01] <sylar_5> then you can create partitions inside it
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> koramati, Are you on a live session you have mounted partitions.
[19:01] <Ben64> what
[19:01] <Ben64> you do not need to delete sda4
[19:01] <sylar_5> wilee-nilee: sda4 is not mounted
[19:01] <koramati> actually , i am not getting the option to make extended partion
[19:01] <Ben64> koramati: don't delete sda4 unless you want all that data gone forever
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> sylar_5, Did I say it was?
[19:02] <sylar_5> Ben64: it's empty
[19:02] <Ben64> the problem is that swap is using the extended partition all to itself
[19:02] <koramati> i deleted
[19:02] <sylar_5> wilee-nilee, sry, thought it was a question
[19:02] <Ben64> need to delete that, optionally extend sda1, and make the end of the drive a big extended partition and you can fill it however you wish
[19:03] <koramati> still i am not seeing that option to make extended
[19:03] <Ben64> because as i said, the swap is using the extended partition
[19:03] <Syria> When I boot my ubuntu 12.04 LTS I get GNU grub menu and the first two options lead me to shell with intframes this and it doesn't boot !! please tell me what to do !
[19:03] <koramati> yes
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> koramati, You want the partitions in numerical order from left to right, what ever you do here you want to end with this being the case.
[19:04] <Ben64> that matters not wilee-nilee
[19:05] <sylar_5> koramati: do you have a second computer which you could use to chat?
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> Ben64, It does as far as basic adjustments in gparted.
[19:06] <koramati> i am looking how i can create multiple partions with  unalocated  space
[19:06] <sylar_5> because i'd suggest to boot into gparted live cd, to convert the swap to be not in an extended partition
[19:06] <koramati> currently only one machine
[19:06] <sylar_5> koramati: you can only have 4 partitions, and max. 1 of them can be extended
[19:07] <koramati> ok
[19:07] <sylar_5> (and partitions inside the extended partition don't count to this)
[19:07] <Ben64> koramati: i've already explained
[19:07] <koramati> so from here i can't rt
[19:07] <koramati> need to go from boot
[19:08] <Ben64> what?
[19:08] <koramati> to create extended partion
[19:08] <Ben64> you're not making sense
[19:09] <koramati> Ben64 : i got the answer
[19:09] <sylar_5> your /dev/sda2 is an extended partition, /dev/sda5 is a swap partition inside /dev/sda2j
[19:10] <koramati> yes
[19:10] <sylar_5> you need to change this so that at this place there is only one primary swap partition
[19:10] <sylar_5> then, you can create an extended partition at the unallocated place (using all space there is)
[19:10] <sylar_5> and then you can create partitions inside this extended partition
[19:10] <koramati> yes , correct
[19:12] <koramati> now i can't delete .need to change this from boot
[19:12] <koramati> i am rt
[19:12] <litropy> Hi, all. Running sudo apt-get update results in 404 errors from server; see paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5681439/
[19:13] <sylar_5> koramati: you should boot from a live cd
[19:13] <koramati> Many Thanks all
[19:13] <koramati> wonderful advises
[19:14] <pero_p_> could anyone here help me about maxima?
[19:14] <Ben64> koramati: you just have to turn off swap... its not hard
[19:14] <koramati> ok
[19:14] <koramati> let me try now
[19:14] <litropy> And full paste of command result here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5681449/
[19:15] <sylar_5> koramati: yes, sorry, forgot you can turn it off without rebooting... -.-
[19:16] <koramati> i turned it off
[19:16] <sylar_5> (gotta go)
[19:17] <carcinogen75> Hello guys. Is there any tool for linux to monitor adding lines to file and process these lines?
[19:18] <koramati> Ben64 ,Sylar_5 :what is the nexe step
[19:18] <AaronMT> !dapper
[19:19] <shock> koramati: Sylar_5 left
[19:19] <koramati> yes , sorry
[19:20] <koramati> Ben64 :still not able to delete extended partition
[19:20] <koramati> any suggestion
[19:21] <bean> koramati, use fdisk and delete it?
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> koramati  boot from a live cd or usb, then delete it
[19:22] <koramati> got some thing .let me try and let you know
[19:23] <th0r> koramati, did you delete the logical partition?
[19:24] <SymeonT> hi! any nice program for screencast in Ubuntu? thnx
[19:24] <Mavrik> kazaam probably
[19:24] <beak_> How do I install the opensource version of ati-radeon hd 3200 drivers?
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> info kazam
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> !info kazam
[19:26] <koramati> I did it
[19:26] <koramati> thanks a lot
[19:28] <koramati> and last one  , what is the best video editor for ubuntu
[19:28] <litropy> Alrighty. So why would I suddenly be getting 404 errors upon apt-get update?
[19:29] <litropy> From Ubuntu's servers no less?
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> koramati  pitivi, openshot
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> litropy  because you have !eol sources you don't know of
[19:29] <litropy> Here's a terminal paste: for ya: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5681449/
[19:30] <koramati> MonkeyDust :Many thanks
[19:30] <litropy> !eol
[19:30] <OerHeks> beak_, you posted this url to actionparsnip a while ago, does answer #5 work ? >>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2139644 else there is no solution for ATI 3xxx cards, too old.
[19:31] <OerHeks> beak_, ATI 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx are no longer supported by the ATI driver.
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> litropy  for a start, i see lucid in that list
[19:32] <beak_> OerHeks, I want the opensource drivers, not proprietary
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> !lucid | litropy
[19:32] <OerHeks> beak_, read your own post, answer #5
[19:33] <blocky_> hi, I'm trying to install 12.04 to a brand new intel SSD and I am seeing the error ubi-partmon failed with exit code 10
[19:33] <beak_> Ubuntiu does not have it
[19:34] <blocky_> I originally told ubiquity to use the entire disk, but when that failed I have tried manually partitioning from gparted
[19:34] <blocky_> it says to look in syslog but I don't see any useful status messages there
[19:35] <blocky_> my console is getting a lot of messages like this: EXT2-fs (loop1): error: ext2_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 98390
[19:36] <zjace> Um...I have a question. I have a ThinkPad Twist with ubuntu on it and the touch screen cant scroll and it there are some other issues with it. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[19:36] <litropy> MonkeyDust, I see. Unfortunately, I can't edit my sources.plist at the moment, because for some reason my filesystem is in read-only mode. I'm actually SSH'ed in. Upon boot, all I get is an underscore after the Ubuntu logo with the dots shows. Dmesg has some interesting things, like init: failsafe-x main process (1422) terminated with status 1
[19:36] <rlcbm> see this i need help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2146749
[19:40] <linelevel> Hi guys. I'd like to install 12.04 LTS  with full disk encryption (not just /home) on my hard drive, but install the boot loader on a USB stick. I can't find any guides for the latter (booting from USB). Can anyone point me to a resource on how to do this? I then plan to install Windows in a separate partition so that without the USB stick, the computer will autoboot into Windows.
[19:41] <litropy> Dmesg paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5681536/
[19:43] <Husar> Hi, how safe is encryption buid in installation process in Ubuntu?
[19:48] <XxxTilllYxxX> How does one join another channel?
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> XxxTilllYxxX  /join #channel
[19:48] <PhatDong> Does anyone know much about stepper motor drivers?
[19:48] <bekks> XxxTilllYxxX: "/join #anotherchannel"
[19:48] <PhatDong> and cnc machines in general with Ubuntu
[19:48] <XxxTilllYxxX> Thanks
[19:50] <PhatDong> hello?
[19:50] <PhatDong> Ubuntu bot, where art thou?
[19:52] <PhatDong> Hello?
[19:52] <PhatDong> is anyone there?
[20:00] <tucemiux> anyone here ever installed an nvidia card in ubuntu?  Should I be using nvidia's drivers downloaded from their website or should I use the ubutu repo?  Which one works better?
[20:01] <jrib> !nvidia | tucemiux
[20:01] <litropy> Man. Now I'm getting kernel panics during boot.
[20:02] <tucemiux> jrib, i guess my real question is,  is there a difference from installing a video card driver donwloaded from nvidia.com as opposed to using what's in the repos?
[20:03] <jrib> tucemiux: using the repositories means you get automatic updates through the package manager
[20:03] <jrib> tucemiux: the drivers are the same drivers, they're just packaged in the repositories
[20:03] <tucemiux> jrib, true but were talking about manufacturer, closed source sofware,  not open source
[20:03] <jrib> tucemiux: yes...
[20:06] <jtt> hello :) i've got a little bug here : on xubuntu my mouse don't allow me to clic outside the current windows (my clic aren't recorded)
[20:07] <tucemiux> now im in text mode, anyone know how to get back the GUI ?o.O
[20:07] <th0r> tucemiux, startx ?
[20:07] <jrib> tucemiux: why are you in text mode...?
[20:07] <jtt> but my touchpad does (after i unplugged the usb)
[20:08] <sylar_5> tucemiux: strg+alt+F7 or F8?
[20:08] <tucemiux> jrib, looks like my xserver is hoseed
[20:08] <jrib> tucemiux: you installed the nvidia drivers?  Using the repositories?
[20:08] <sylar_5> jtt: logout, login?
[20:09] <lars> I'm having trouble installing Kubuntu 12.04
[20:09] <lars> Is there an expert here who can help me?
[20:09] <sylar_5> lars: please tell your exact problem
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> !ask | lars
[20:09] <tucemiux> jrib, no - i attepmted to install the binary driver - wanted to know if it matter from which source i installed before I kept troubleshooting the binary drivers - now i just want to get a gui so i can use add/remove
[20:09] <lars> ok
[20:10] <lars> The installation process was going well until I got to the Partition stage...
[20:10] <jrib> tucemiux: you can't use add/remove if you didn't install through the repositories, you'd have to consult nvidia's documentation on how to remove them
[20:10] <jtt> sylar_5 already tried... i rebooted too, but it don't change anything
[20:10] <lars> The stage called "Prepare Partitions" caused me a lot of problems....
[20:11] <sylar_5> lars: just ask your question
[20:11] <lars> The computer did not recognize any devices
[20:11] <lars> So there was not recognizable root directory
[20:12] <lars> And the computer told me we cannot proceed with the installation without a root directory
[20:12] <Droide3> hi
[20:12] <linelevel> Hi, I'm trying to figure out how to install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS so that it boots from a USB drive rather than my hard drive. To clarify, I plan to install Ubuntu on my hard drive, I just want it to boot from USB (using grub2). Can anyone help?
[20:12] <Droide3> was haltet ihr davon
[20:12] <lars> I'm doing the same thing
[20:12] <Droide3> ach falsch
[20:13] <lars> I'm trying to install 12.04 with my USB jump flash
[20:13] <sylar_5> lars: do you have access to a console?
[20:13] <lars> I already created a bootable flash drive with an ISO of Kubuntu 12.04 on it
[20:13] <lars> Yes, of course
[20:13] <sylar_5> lars: what does ls /dev/sd* tell you?
[20:13] <lars> I'm using 11.04 right now
[20:14] <sylar_5> oh, sry
[20:14] <sylar_5> lars: i meant: a console on the booted live cd/key
[20:14] <gmachine_24> Greetings. Running 10.04LTS - a Gateway NV76R notebook; want to at least disable touchpad while typing; can't figure out how.
[20:15] <sylar_5> linelevel: ask your question: what's your problem?
[20:15] <lars> Oh shit
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> lars  mind your language
[20:15] <lars> I can't seem to access my Konsole
[20:15] <gmachine_24> hey hey none of that
[20:15] <IdleOne> !language | lars
[20:15] <lars> woops
[20:15] <Jack> hello
[20:16] <lars> ls /dev/sed*   is that it?
[20:16] <sylar_5> gmachine_24: synaptics driver?
[20:16] <sylar_5> lars: it lists all divices in /dev which start with sd
[20:16] <sylar_5> lars: ls /dev/sd*
[20:16] <Basil1x1> 12.04 here.  How can I upgrade to 13.04 without reinstalling everything?
[20:16] <sylar_5> not sed*
[20:16] <gmachine_24> sylar_5: actually, I've no clue
[20:17] <linelevel> sylar_5: That is my question. I don't know where to start. I've googled but can't find a guide anywhere to installing Ubuntu such that it is installed on the hard drive but boots from USB.
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> Basil1x1  sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:17] <lars> /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda5  /dev/sda6
[20:18] <Basil1x1> That's it?  I am now extremely annoyed with myself.
[20:18] <lars> I unplugged the jump drive
[20:18] <sylar_5> lars: this is the machine you want to install the system to, executed from a booted live key?
[20:18] <Basil1x1> Thanks, and TTFN
[20:18] <lars> A booted jump drive
[20:19] <lars> I want to install it onto this computer using my jump drive
[20:19] <sylar_5> lars: boot from the key and then call ls /dev/sd*
[20:20] <sylar_5> lars: it'll tell which disks have been detected
[20:20] <lars> I also created a bootable DVD, but I have doubts that is works, because it's not a true ISO image, because of a minor problem I had when I burned with with Nero on Windows
[20:20] <sylar_5> linelevel: so you need a complete guide to install? just burn a live cd, boot from it and run the installer
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> lars  you have !md5 check the iso
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> lars  you have to !md5 check the iso
[20:21] <linelevel> sylar_5: To clarify: I want to install Ubuntu (with a LUKS LVM for encryption) on my internal hdd, and grub2 on a USB stick. Then I plan to install Windows (as a decoy) so that if someone boots my laptop without the USB stick, it will autoboot straight into Windows.
[20:21] <linelevel> sylar_5: I've got the LUKS LVM figured out, just not the booting via grub2 from USB.
[20:21] <Alina-malina> Hello all! What is the best file(image) storage or imagehosting server for ubuntu with option to use images in  website without glitches and images always appear?
[20:22] <lars> I don't understand what you want me to do, Sylar.  I can't boot this current 11.04 system from my bootbable jump drive
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> Alina-malina  ubuntuone can be used that way
[20:22] <Alina-malina> MonkeyDust, thanks!
[20:22] <sylar_5> linelevel: never used manually edited grub2, sry
[20:23] <lars> You want me to just connect the bootable USB flash drive and then do the ls command again?
[20:23] <Arkhana> linelevel: I can help you
[20:23] <foofoobar123> Hi, I just installed i3 via the repositories, how can i start it now?
[20:23] <sylar_5> lars: no. so you are stuck at where your system should boot from the jump drive?
[20:24] <basil1x> Well... that didn't work.  sudo do-release-upgrade returns 'no new ... found'
[20:24] <lars> Actually, my system froze a few times when I tried to boot from the jump pdrive
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> basil1x  try adding -d
[20:24] <lars> but when I tried it on the 5th or 6th time, it worked
[20:25] <lars> it booted from the jump drive
[20:25] <gmachine_24> Greetings. Running 10.04LTS - a Gateway NV76R notebook; want to at least disable touchpad while typing; can't figure out how.
[20:25] <lars> and the installation fprocesss worked
[20:25] <lars> ...until I got to the Partitiion stage
[20:25] <basil1x> That worked.  TY
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> lars, Grub can be set up on a usb and boot OS's, used to be more hits on the web before all the usb loaders become available. You could just user supergrub.
[20:25] <lars> that's when it couldnt recognize any of my devices
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> lars  partitioning is the hardest part, when trying to get familiar with linux
[20:25] <foofoobar123> any hints?
[20:26] <sylar_5> lars: do you have a 2nd machine you could use for irc?
[20:26] <ur00pl> hi
[20:26] <lars> Yes, but my Windows computer has malware on it, so I can't go online
[20:27] <ur00pl> after i did aticonfig, the desktop loads but there is no unity or anyhting like that
[20:27] <lars> I can't do anything at the "Prepare Partitions" stage
[20:27] <lars> There are no recognizable devices to partition
[20:28] <sylar_5> lars: at this point, I need to know what ls /dev/sd* says. when it's booted from the usb drive.
[20:28] <lars> But I had inserted the bootable DVD, too
[20:29] <lars> That might explain why the installation was working, after my previous unsuccessful attempt with the flash drive alone
[20:29] <sylar_5> lars: I need to know what is in your /dev folder while you have booted from the live system
[20:29] <EmmEight> Hello!
[20:30] <sylar_5> ur00pl: what do you see instead?
[20:31] <lars> At the bottom the computer said "Device for Boot Loader Installation:  /dev/sda"
[20:31] <foofoobar123> I just installed i3 via the repositories, how can i start it now?
[20:31] <lars> When I was at the "Prepare Partitions" screen
[20:31] <ur00pl> sylar_5, nothing
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> lars  /dev/sda is the HDD, sda1 sda2 etc are its partitions
[20:32] <ur00pl> sylar_5, hitting alt+clt  t works though
[20:32] <lars> ok, that's good, right?
[20:32] <ur00pl> sylar_5, this is after i did aticonfig
[20:32] <sylar_5> lars: i need to know the exact contents of the folder, (all elements starting with sd)
[20:32] <lars> I just showed them to you
[20:32] <sylar_5> ur00pl: access console, run startx
[20:33] <lars> /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda5  /dev/sda6
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> lars  in a terminal, type sudo apt-get instal pastebinit;sudo fdisk -l;parted -l|pastebinit
[20:33] <sylar_5> lars: /dev does not contain files on your hard drive. it contains your devices. this means its contents change when you boot a different system
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> lars  in a terminal, type sudo apt-get install pastebinit;sudo fdisk -l;parted -l|pastebinit    <-- correction
[20:34] <lars> ok
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> lars  and paste the url here
[20:36] <johnjohn1011> ubuntu 13.04 is definitely much faster than 12.04
[20:36] <lars> Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
[20:36] <lars> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
[20:36] <lars> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[20:36] <lars> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[20:36] <lars> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[20:36] <FloodBot1> lars: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:36] <lars> Disk identifier: 0x91119111
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> lars  no, type parted -l|pastebinit and paste the url here
[20:40] <we6jbo> ' to produce this quit message.
[20:40] <lars> Monkey, that command does not work
[20:40] <therms> add additional hard drive (that prior to removal used to be part of an mdadm array) to ubuntu server, server "freezes" at black screen once past grub.  Remove hard drive server boots fine.
[20:40] <therms> tips?
[20:41] <therms> using 12.10
[20:41] <lars> Can I just install Windows onto this computer and create the partitions with FAT32 in order to install Kubuntu 12.04?
[20:41] <bekks> lars: No.
[20:42] <bekks> lars: Ubuntu isnt installable on FAT filesystems.
[20:42] <sylar_5> lars: then post the output of parted -l and fdisk -l to any text-posting platform (pastebin, etherpad, ...) and give us a link
[20:42] <Arkhana> bekks: I thought it is
[20:42] <bekks> Arkhana: It never was, and never will be :)
[20:43] <lars> I dont know how to do that, Sylar
[20:43] <testusr> I've got this problem and noe noe wants to answer me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2102093
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> lars  what command does not work?
[20:43] <lars> parted -l|pastebinit        does not work  Monkey
[20:44] <sylar_5> lars: http://pastebin.com/
[20:44] <sylar_5> lars: copy-paste the output of these 2 commands ( "sudo parted -l" "sudo fdisk -l" )
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> lars  simply parted -l and paste the outcome to pastenbinit
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> it hard to explain something simple :)
[20:45] <lars> Ok, sylar, I shall do that....
[20:45] <seronis> MonkeyDust: didnt know about the 'pastebinit' script.  thank you  (things like this really need mentioned in the installer splash screens)
[20:47] <seronis> now how do i find the location of that script?
[20:47] <seronis> (to upgrade it)
[20:48] <ThinkT510> seronis: its a program you install with apt-get
[20:48] <seronis> well it was preinstalled with xubuntu then. figure something that trivial would be a script, not a program
[20:49] <ThinkT510> !info pastebinit | seronis
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> seronis  pastebinit is a command
[20:49] <lars> I posted them both, Sylar
[20:49] <James_Epp> I cannot seem to find an answer to this situation: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2146732
[20:49] <seronis> that doesnt tell me where its located on my system =-)
[20:49] <sylar_5> lars we need the url
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> seronis  type which pastebinit
[20:49] <lars> What url?
[20:50] <lars> You mean where I posted them?
[20:50] <seronis> i tried 'find'.   'which' seems like an odd search name but ok
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> seronis  see what 'which' does
[20:50] <sylar_5> lars: yes
[20:50] <sylar_5> lars: after submitting, you should have received a url like http://pastebin.com/p1q6XpTJ
[20:51] <seronis> just did.  it worked perfectly.  just was a non obvious command name for a new xubuntu user
[20:51] <sylar_5> lars: with a different id after the /
[20:51] <gmachine_24> OK, well, not that anyone asked but the way to disable the touchpad while typing is by using syndaemon; man syndaemon for the details.
[20:51] <dogbert2> can anyone explain this: http://pastebin.com/RQkGGK2B
[20:51] <lars> http://pastebin.com/z2DysLh4
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> seronis  there's also 'whereis'
[20:52] <lars> http://pastebin.com/sP8qbVg4
[20:52] <zjace> Does anyone know how to fix the scroll on a touch screen in ubuntu?
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> !touch | zjace
[20:53] <zjace> Um its a laptop.,,
[20:53] <lars> damn, I just connected my jump drive
[20:53] <zjace> With a touch screen...does that still apply
[20:53] <lars> I thought my jump drive was already connected
[20:54] <sylar_5> MonkeyDust: you continue with lars, I don't know what info you wanted to get from this.
[20:54] <lars> Is that a problem, the fact that I did all that stuff without my jump drive connected?
[20:54] <zjace> MonkeyDust: Its a laptop with a touch screen. Does that still apply?
[20:55] <ThinkT510> lars: jump drives makes me think of hyperspace travel, did you mean usb sticks
[20:55] <sylar_5> lars: no
[20:55] <sylar_5> lars: you just listed all partitions connected to the pc at the moment you typed the command
[20:55] <lars> Ok, good
[20:56] <blocky_> trying to install 12.04 from a usb drive onto a new SSD and running into this: Input/output error while determining whether /dev/sda1 is mounted.
[20:56] <blocky_> anyone know what could be causing this?
[20:56] <dogbert2> can anyone explain this: http://pastebin.com/RQkGGK2B
[20:57] <cnf> can anyone tell me which pam file i need to edit to affect only local console login?
[20:57] <sylar_5> lars: I don't know what MonkeyDust was expecting to see from this. to me, the problem only appears after you have booted from the live medium
[20:58] <abc> can any1 tell me how to install oracle 10g on ubuntu 13.04?
[20:59] <lars> Yes, I can't access my partitions at the "Prepare Partitions" stage of the installation process
[20:59] <mikkle> Question about NAS: If you buy a two bay enclosure, can you use it with just ONE drive?
[21:00] <lars> May be a I need to format my hard drive and create the partitions before I start installing 12.04?
[21:00] <arlosmar> hello. is it possible to use ctr tab to change tabs in thunar please?
[21:00] <sylar_5> lars: that's why it'd be great if we could talk while you have booted from cd
[21:00] <abc> i want to install oracle on ubuntu13.04
[21:00] <sylar_5> lars: that's what "prepare partitions" is supposed to do
[21:00] <dogbert2> hmmmmph
[21:01] <sylar_5> lars: do you have a smartphone or tablet?
[21:01] <lars> I need to install Service Pack 3 and run virus scans before my Windows computer can go online
[21:01] <cnf> pam always gives me a headache :P
[21:01] <mong> abc: ubuntu is not a supported installation os for oracle 10g
[21:01] <lars> I have a cell phone
[21:02] <sylar_5> lars: a smartphone?
[21:02]  * dogbert2 goes Ho, Ha, Ha, Guard, Turn, Parry, Dodge, Spin, Ha, Thrust!
[21:02] <lars> No, a cell phone with texting
[21:02] <abc> mong...then what's d solution, mate?
[21:02] <lars> But I rarely text on my cell phone, It's too old school for that
[21:02] <mong> abc: you can ask oracle support, or you can run oracle linux (or any other supported distro)
[21:02] <lars> it's an old cell phone
[21:02] <sylar_5> lars: then boot from cd, start the browser, and use this: http://webchat.freenode.net/
[21:03] <sylar_5> lars: i'm asking for something that could connect to irc ;)
[21:03] <abc> mong : do i need to change ma os then?
[21:03] <abc> which I can't
[21:03] <mong> abc: not if you use a virtual machine :)
[21:03] <lars> Oh yeah
[21:03] <cnf> hmm, i want to configure my system to only ask for passwords when you log in from a local console
[21:03] <cnf> just need to get my head around pam to do it
[21:03] <lars> I could try the test instead of the installation, right?
[21:03] <abc> mong :can you explain a bit for me....
[21:04] <bekks> abc: I told you everything about it today, already.
[21:04] <abc> if i can use a virtual machine on top of ubuntu?
[21:04] <abc> bekks u neva mentioned the virtual machine thing
[21:04] <sylar_5> lars: when you boot from the live cd, it should ask you "install or try"
[21:04] <bekks> abc: you can just run a vm with a supported OS.
[21:04] <lars> Yes, so I choose "Try" instead of install, right?
[21:04] <sylar_5> lars: use try. from there, you should be able to start a web browser
[21:04]  * dogbert2 does all his testing in VM's
[21:05] <lars> ok, I'll do that
[21:05] <sylar_5> and then you can access the webchat
[21:05] <sylar_5> and join this channel again
[21:05] <lars> ok, sylar.....
[21:05] <abc> means ubuntu will be having it's own virtual machine flavor....right?
[21:05] <xing> 我撫摸自己!!
[21:05] <bekks> abc: no.
[21:05] <mong> abc: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[21:06] <xorred> anyone got any idea why in ANY folder LS produces 091.189.089.122.00443-010.000.002.015.60279?
[21:06] <arlosmar> hello. is it possible to use ctr tab to change tabs in thunar please?
[21:06] <abc> mong :thanks
[21:07] <OerHeks> xorred sounds like encrypted, or damaged
[21:07] <nnG> saaalve!!!
[21:07] <ThinkT510> abc: you do realise that running it in a vm still means we can't offer you support since its still not a ubuntu issue?
[21:08] <xorred> OerHeks rm -rf fixed it :D
[21:08] <abc> I agree on that part thinkt510
[21:09] <abc> but I hope when the virtual machine is gonna interact with the host machine...
[21:09] <xing> 我撫摸自己!!
[21:09] <abc> every instruction to hardware is passed thru host machine
[21:09] <abc> right?
[21:09] <OerHeks> !cn | xing
[21:10] <ThinkT510> abc: its not a ubuntu issue therefore no support here
[21:10] <xing> 我撫摸自己
[21:10] <abc> and this would not hamper the functionality of oracle instance that would be currently launched....
[21:10] <abc> ThinT510 : did you get what I am saying?
[21:11] <ThinkT510> abc: a vm obviously will perform less capably than real hardware
[21:11] <dogbert2> ThinkT510, yeah, but it's a great way to test stuff w/out wrecking existing operating systems :)
[21:12] <abc> ThinkT510 : I agree on that part....
[21:12] <cnf> so no one that can help me out with pam a bit?
[21:12] <abc> but it will behave as it is while run time....
[21:12] <abc> performance issue might be there....
[21:12] <OerHeks> dogbert2, with a few exceptions, true (like videodrivers & wireless)
[21:13] <abc> that is the slowness of oracle cursors....
[21:13] <mong> abc: well, hopefully this is not production :P
[21:13] <bekks> abc: It will not behave like Ubuntu. And all those issues can be solved, witha reasonable configuration, of the vm, the guest OS, and the RDBMS.
[21:13] <dogbert2> OerHeks, I use VirtualBox to test various IDS products and code...:)
[21:13] <cnf> production, we run everything in VMs
[21:13] <dogbert2> if I mess up, just delete the VM and try again :)
[21:13] <cnf> dogbert2: snapshots
[21:14] <Unirgy> hi, in `ps -o ??` what is the identifier of current, NOT cumulative cpu utilization? thanks
[21:14] <dogbert2> cnf...well, I usually don't mess up all that much...besides, loading from ISO images always faster than CD/DVD :)
[21:14] <abc> bekks : that is where i needed to focus
[21:14] <ThinkT510> abc: i'm just trying to tell you that setting up something in a vm doesn't make this a ubuntu issue, so you'll have to look for help with it elsewhere (we can help you getting vm software installed but thats where it stops)
[21:14] <swordfish_> Hello everyone I'm trying to push an application for ubuntu touch on the launchpad. I already set up everything but i keep getting an error message when i try to push to trunk. I can upload new branches, but cant work with trunk... Any help would be appreciated :) ...
[21:15] <dogbert2> hey OerHeks, can you look at this: http://pastebin.com/RQkGGK2B
[21:15] <abc> ThinkT510 : okay, whichvm do i need to install?
[21:15] <bekks> abc: First, you have to get all that up and running. After that, you can care about problems in your setup.
[21:15] <bekks> abc: Virtualbox.
[21:15] <bekks> abc: Follow the installation instructions on the official vbox site.
[21:16] <abc> the one that mong mentioned; right?
[21:16] <bekks> abc: www.virtualbox.org
[21:16] <ThinkT510> !cookie | bekks
[21:16] <bekks> abc: Thats the official site.
[21:16] <abc>  thanks...checking...
[21:18] <vitimiti> nighty night
[21:19] <xkernel> is there a way to login to Ubuntu with Certificate installed on USB flash memory and password at the same time??
[21:19] <abc> I think I need to go now....
[21:19] <abc> thank you gentlemen....
[21:19] <abc> I will come back with virtual box installed on ma machine
[21:20] <abc> bekks, mong, ThinkT510 : thankyou  guyzz...
[21:20] <dogbert2> hmmmm
[21:21] <Lukario45> My god i fainted when i saw this channel
[21:23] <number-7> how come if i type echo $LINES it shows me 24 25 whatever, but LINES is not automatically exported?
[21:25] <number-7> ok, how come LINES is not automatically exported?
[21:26] <number-7> how does a program get the number of lines on an xterm?
[21:26] <cnf> xkernel: with pam, if you can figure it out :P
[21:30] <cnf> ARGL, pam driving me nuts >,<
[21:32] <DiegoNolan> Anyone know how to solve the unable to login in problem?  Using gdm is not working
[21:33] <OerHeks> DiegoNolan, your ..Xauthority might be owned by root, remove this file and you can get back in >>  http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?62084-Can-t-login-into-the-system&s=287bbb93656dee7c53625958a278db98&p=323637&viewfull=1#post323637  this is an Kubuntu answer, applies to ubuntu too
[21:34] <DiegoNolan> i Tried that.  I maved in to a backup  mv ~/.Xauthority ~/.Xauthority.backup
[21:35] <OerHeks> DiegoNolan, oh, then i have no clue, this answer is working for most users with this issue
[21:36] <woutersimons> DiegoNoaln can you logg in to console with the same credentials
[21:37] <th0r> DiegoNolan, are you sure that moved the file? If it is owned by root you will have to use sudo
[21:37] <DiegoNolan> dmm
[21:37] <OerHeks> for same credentials he should restore that backup
[21:37] <DiegoNolan> it was back so i romoved it again
[21:37] <DiegoNolan> maybe this will work
[21:38] <OerHeks> it is re-generated on boot...
[21:38] <DiegoNolan> nope
[21:38] <DiegoNolan> this is a pretty infuriating issue
[21:38] <m1chael> i bought a new asus laptop. i am experiencing this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1172151 .. when will this fix make it to a release?
[21:38] <UBlondie> when it states to make a file 'writable', what exactly does that mean?  ...ie. File in question has permissions: -rw-r--r--  ...is that enough?  should it ideally have  -rw-rw-rw-  ?
[21:38] <xkernel> cnf, it's just uses a USB serial number to authenticate?? http://linuxconfig.org/linux-authentication-login-with-usb-device
[21:39] <UBlondie> trying to change it using chmod (and sudo chmod) were completely ineffective (and didn't come up with any errors)
[21:39] <cnf> xkernel: i use TOTP myself
[21:40] <cnf> xkernel: but it's just pam configuration
[21:40] <cnf> which i am having a problem with myself, atm :P
[21:41] <cnf> xkernel: what from that article isn't working?
[21:41] <UBlondie> ...I was also able to edit the contents of the file using gedit by the way ...so in that context it seems 'writable'
[21:41] <DiegoNolan> well can i change my keyboard to programmer dvorak via cmomand line, else i'm going to take 5 days to back these files up in qwerty
[21:41] <xkernel> cnf, didn't try it yet but I see it's identifies a USB device S/N and UUID to authenticate it
[21:41] <cnf> yes...
[21:42] <xkernel> cnf, this can be easily evade by a microcontroller  or fake device,  I'm looking for something that fetches certificate from the USB
[21:43] <cnf> why? i think it's kinda stupid anyway
[21:43] <cnf> 1)  physical access means it is too late, really, anyway
[21:43] <cnf> it's far easier booting from usb than faking usb ID's
[21:43] <cnf> 2) doesn't work remote
[21:43] <cnf> 3) TOTP is FAR easier, and works remote
[21:44] <servvs> okay so i made the terrible decision today to upgrade to 13.04, I have to revert to the live disc because I am not able to use internet and my video looks terrible, my resolution is way down. Is this a common issue with 13.04 not installing the proper drivers?
[21:45] <cnf> xkernel: and 4) TOTP has to be authed every time, so it is secure remote as well
[21:45] <OerHeks> m1chael, read after #35, the issue is solved, it was a bios update, not a wpa issue, so it will be available tru updated atheros  i guess, else be patient.
[21:45] <cnf> xkernel: so my main question would be, what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[21:47] <xkernel> cnf, like I said in the beginning; authentication with device as well as password like https://www.hidglobal.com/products/cards-and-credentials/identity-assurance/usb-tokens
[21:48] <cnf> xkernel: those work by generating OTP
[21:48] <cnf> not by having "a certificate"
[21:49] <cnf> xkernel: do you have a smartphone?
[21:49] <xkernel> cnf, not currently
[21:49] <xkernel> cnf but will get one, what the solution you want to say??
[21:49] <cnf> xkernel: TOTP (Time based One Time Password)
[21:50] <cnf> smart phone generates a token, that is valid for 30 seconds, and one time use
[21:50] <cnf> it's what my servers have
[21:50] <xkernel> cnf,  which application will be installed on the smart phone to generate the password???
[21:50] <cnf> several can do it
[21:50] <cnf> the google authenticator app for iOS and android does it, but i prefer the Duo Security app on iOS or android myself
[21:51] <cnf> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.duosecurity.duomobile for android
[21:51] <cnf> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/duo-mobile/id422663827?mt=8 for ios
[21:51] <cnf> there is a blackberry one as well
[21:51] <OerHeks> i use yubikey, but those systems rely on internet.
[21:51] <xkernel> cnf, is it secure enough to synchronize google authenticator app with the server? I mean is there any chance that another app match mine?
[21:51] <cnf> xkernel: it also secures my VPN
[21:51]  * dogbert2 kicks VBox right in da junk
[21:52] <cnf> xkernel: there is no synchronize
[21:52] <bazhang> dogbert2, stop that
[21:52] <cnf> xkernel: google has nothing to do with it
[21:52] <cnf> xkernel: it's just their app you use
[21:52] <cnf> OerHeks: i use Duo services, but yeah it needs internet
[21:52] <cnf> OerHeks: you can use the yubi key offline, if you know the key secret, though
[21:52] <tf201> hi
[21:52] <cnf> don how open they are
[21:53] <OerHeks> well, i can run my own auth,
[21:53] <cnf> yah
[21:53] <cnf> xkernel: the TOTP is a well documented standard
[21:53] <cnf> xkernel: google authenticator and duo security are just 2 apps that implement TOTP
[21:54] <tf201> I've never used irc, where can I find help for an android device?
[21:54] <cnf> OerHeks: have you looked at duo security? their service is pretty damn nice, and free up to 10 users
[21:54] <bazhang> tf201, #android
[21:54] <cnf> tf201: on #android, probably
[21:55] <tf201> Thanks
[21:55] <cnf> xkernel: and my VPN is secured by the same token
[21:55] <tf201> and how can I achieve it with xchat?
[21:56] <cnf> you type /join #ubuntu
[21:56] <cnf> uhm
[21:56] <bazhang> tf201, /join #android
[21:56] <cnf> type /join #android
[21:56] <xkernel> cnf, can this be used for disk decryption on boot ?
[21:56] <cnf> :P
[21:56] <tf201> thanks, I found alone;)
[21:56] <cnf> xkernel: not directly, no
[21:57] <cnf> xkernel: but that is an entirely different question
[21:58] <cnf> xkernel: for THAT on a local machine, you could use a key on a usb stick
[21:58] <xkernel> how cnf?
[21:58] <cnf> or your login password
[21:59] <fs242> Anyone can help me with this? dpkg: error: configuration error: /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch:1: unknown option 'foreign-architecture'
[21:59] <cnf> xkernel: what exactly are you trying to accomplish, though?
[22:00] <xkernel> cnf both questions I asked, so now I knew about the login part, but what about the decryption on boot with USB ?
[22:00] <cnf> meh, i don't much see the point, tbh. beyond playing
[22:01] <cnf> you'd have to wrap the mount script, and have it read the usb key
[22:10] <fs242> can someone help me figure out how to solve a problem with broken packages?
[22:11] <sam113101> can I synch my ipod with rythmbox?
[22:15] <K350> I've made a fancy Command Line URL Shortener - enjoy :-)  http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?77999
[22:18] <kristenbb> hi, I'm having a problem logging into my computer. I have ubuntu 1204. I am 100% sure I didn't change my password, but I tried typing it 100 times, it's not working. I restarted the computer, I made sure I didn't have caps on or that the layout didn't change, I even tried logging in with ssh, but the password seems to have been changed. I am the only one using my computer. What can I do ?
[22:18] <bekks> kristenbb: Boot a livecd, and reset your password.
[22:19] <[FreeBSD]> kristenbb: try chrooting and using passwd command
[22:19] <kristenbb> bekks: my drive is encrypted.
[22:19] <bekks> kristenbb: Then you have to boot a livecd, decrypt your drive, and reset your password.
[22:20] <kristenbb> bekks: ok. Could you please detail the steps to decrypt it ?
[22:20] <bekks> kristenbb: I have no clue, since I am not using decryption myself due to lack of reasons for encryption :)
[22:21] <kristenbb> I just checked 'encrypt home drive' when installing ubuntu, I didn't do anything special.
[22:21] <bekks> kristenbb: Then you dont even need to decrypt it.
[22:21] <bekks> kristenbb: The password hash isnt stored in your home.
[22:22] <kristenbb> yes but I do want to get my home back.
[22:23] <BillJobs> hey guys I have an old acer machine with windows 8 on it was thinking of doing a clean install of Ubuntu on it. Which version of Ubuntu should I go with & should I do 32 bit or 64? I think it has a dual core with only 3gb of ram.
[22:23] <redlance> So...knowing how important it is to backup my stuff, I'm wondering how to back up my file server.  I know how to backup my data...but I want to backup all the configuration changes that I've made to Samba, Apache, Plex server, and my Squeezebox.  Is there a program to do this for me?  Will I run into trouble if I upgrade the OS, and then reinstall those 4 servers, and try to use my old config files?
[22:24] <K1lleD> BillJobs:  what processor have this laptop. and with 3gb ram, i think 12.04 LTS, or 12.10
[22:25] <bekks> BillJobs: If it is capable of 64bit, I'd go with that.
[22:25] <chvx> does this partition scheme really suits my hardrive? http://content.hccfl.edu/pollock/aunix1/partitioning.htm second choice there
[22:27] <eljoest> Hi, I'm seeing very high cpu load of NetworkManager and wpa_supplicant as soon as the network manager service is started. Syslog contains tons of messages from iwl3945 about "Radio disabled by HW RF Kill Switch" (which is correct). Started with my update to 13.04 via 12.10 today. Anyone have an idea for a solution?
[22:27] <seronis> chvx: my own preference is swap partition = 1.5-2.0 x RAM.   '/' gets everything else.   Do you have a need for anything more complex ?
[22:29] <Pimpara1985> hi ppl
[22:29] <q0_0p> anyone can help me out with getting to print working for lexmark Platinum pro905\/
[22:29] <q0_0p> ?
[22:30] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I extract multiple zip files with same password in a directory?
[22:30] <chvx> seronis: not really ;D
[22:30] <q0_0p> unable to find the PPD file on the internet
[22:32] <mojtaba> anybody?
[22:32] <kristenbb> so how can I reset my password without damaging my home folder ?
[22:32] <ToBeFree> is it encrypted with that password?
[22:33] <kristenbb> yes
[22:33] <ToBeFree> I assume you need your password to decrypt it; if it would be possible to change the password of any encryption, that encryption would be useless
[22:33] <ToBeFree> so it won't damage it, I assume, but it wouldn't give you any access
[22:33] <kristenbb> Maybe only the logging password has been changed, but not the password for the encryption. How could I check that ?
[22:36] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I extract multiple zip files with same password in a directory?
[22:36] <mamece2> hello, i neet help formating a USB drive
[22:36] <chvx> seronis: isnt risky to have only 2 partitions?
[22:36] <Basil1x> Doing upgrade.  Asked to remove packages, I pressed d for details of packages to remove.  Now I cannot make it resume.
[22:37] <q0_0p> mamece2, man mkfs
[22:37] <q0_0p> mamece2, man fdisk
[22:37] <yeats> mamece2: if you're looking for a gui program, try gparted
[22:38] <mamece2> yeats: i tried gparted, it shows an error
[22:38] <bekks> mamece2: Which one...?
[22:38] <mamece2> yeats: i tried also disk utilyti
[22:39] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I extract multiple zip files with same password in a directory?
[22:39] <seronis> chvx: no more risky than a Windows user only having 1 partition and virtual memory (swap) being a normal file
[22:39] <jrib> mojtaba: use a for loop
[22:39] <mojtaba> jrib: Could you please help me more about it?
[22:39] <mojtaba> I am a newbie
[22:40] <jrib> mojtaba: here is an example of a basic for loop:   for file in *; do echo "$file"; done
[22:40] <seronis> chvx: if you run services (like a web server) that have a risk of creating GiB of log files when an error occurs then having a mini partition where your logs go can make sense.. not many people require that
[22:40] <PrototypeX29A> how do i configure the login menu where i can select the window manager? it appears that i cannot select awesome
[22:40] <jrib> PrototypeX29A: how did you install awesome?
[22:40] <seronis> and honestly to me that seems like a configuration problem in the logging itself
[22:41] <mamece2> yeats: now working. this is making fun of me
[22:41] <eljoest> to whom it may concern: The high cpu load is a regression: Bug #1178841
[22:41] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: "sudo apt-get install awesome" i guess
[22:41] <PrototypeX29A> it has to be some time ago, i guess
[22:41] <jrib> PrototypeX29A: does /usr/share/xsessions/awesome.desktop exist?
[22:42] <PrototypeX29A> yes, it does
[22:43] <merpnderp> Anyone running Ubuntu on a 2011 macbook pro able to tell me how the trackpad feels on it?
[22:43] <merpnderp> And if you were able to get the wifi working
[22:43] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: the file looks ok to me as well
[22:43] <chvx> seronis: why wouldnt i parttion why are there partition then?
[22:44] <jrib> PrototypeX29A: at the login screen, you should have a circle or gear you can click to select the session. Do you see that?
[22:44] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: i don't know what you are talking about
[22:44] <jrib> PrototypeX29A: do you understand what I mean by login screen?
[22:45] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: i think so, i have got a selection for several windowmanagers on the left side
[22:45] <PrototypeX29A> including several variants of gnome, i3, ratpoison, but no awesome
[22:45] <daJu> I have a problem with my wifi on asus zenbook prime ux31a I see wifi networks but it fail to connect to them. This page says that it should be fine https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbookPrime (but it's not).
[22:45] <kristenbb> so how is it possible that my password changed without me knowing, and how to get my stuff back please ?
[22:46] <jrib> kristenbb: what password?
[22:46] <kristenbb> the logging passowrd
[22:46] <kristenbb> of ubuntu.
[22:46] <jrib> kristenbb: you can reset it if you want.  It shouldn't change unless you change it
[22:46] <jrib> !password | kristenbb
[22:46] <elky> can someone remind me of the "easy" way to add a bookmark to nautilus?
[22:46] <jrib> PrototypeX29A: what ubuntu version?
[22:47] <kristenbb> jrib: the problem I chose to encrypt home when I installed ubuntu, does that not make it more difficult ?
[22:47] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: i just upgraded to 13.04
[22:47] <jrib> elky: isn't it in the right-click context menu?
[22:47] <jrib> kristenbb: then you need to remember your password
[22:47] <jrib> kristenbb: or recall the passphrase that you were told to keep in a safe place
[22:47] <kristenbb> jrib: well yes, and I do remember it, I'm 100% sure I'm typing it correctly.
[22:47] <elky> jrib, nope. nor can i drag-drop. nor is there an add function on the list of bookmarks that gets opened when i go file->bookmarks
[22:47] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: which also seems to have changed my wm to gnome3
[22:48] <jrib> elky: 13.04?
[22:48] <elky> jrib, yup
[22:48] <kristenbb> kristenbb: well this I didn't do, but still, there should be a way...
[22:48] <elky> jrib, i found how to do it a few weeks ago and apparently promptly forgot
[22:48] <kristenbb> jrib: ^
[22:48] <jrib> elky: on 12.10 I have a Bookmarks menu at the top and the accelerator is ctrl-d
[22:49] <AndroUser> Hey anyone willing to Skype me and help me to install ubuntu 12.04 ON ubuntu
[22:49] <mynameis1eleted> so.. I know ubuntu supports i386 and x86_64
[22:49] <jrib> kristenbb: there is no way.  Only if you remember your password.  This is the whole point of encryption
[22:49] <mynameis1eleted> I read about a new instruction set gcc and the kernel both support
[22:49] <mynameis1eleted> x32... 32-bit instructions and word size for less waste of memory than 64-bit binaries, but hte full use of the 64-bit register set
[22:49] <jrib> AndroUser: you should probably be more specific about what you mean by installing "ubuntu on ubuntu"
[22:49] <Marcello> I need to talk to someone who can help me with b43.
[22:49] <mynameis1eleted> does ubuntu have an x32 distro?
[22:49] <Marcello>  I need to talk to someone who can help me with b43.
[22:49] <jrib> !ask | Marcello
[22:49] <elky> jrib, aha not even that, you now have to use the gear thingy. and only the gear thingy
[22:50] <James_Epp> mynameis1eleted: Yes, look for a i386 build
[22:50] <jrib> !wireless > Marcello
[22:50] <mynameis1eleted> or mixed x32/x86_64/i386 distro
[22:50] <mynameis1eleted> not i386
[22:50] <mynameis1eleted> x32
[22:50] <elky> you can no longer drag stuff into the menu, nor can that bookmarks dialog add things
[22:50] <jrib> elky: I see... I'm still on 12.10
[22:50] <kristenbb> jrib: I do understand that, but as I said, I didn't change the password. I've seen other people complaining about similar things too on forums, with ssd drives. Maybe the encryption password was not changed, just the logging password ? How to check that ?
[22:50] <James_Epp> mynameis1eleted: Perhaps I do not understand what you mean by x32
[22:50] <mynameis1eleted> i386 binaries are slower than x86_64 binaries
[22:50] <elky> jrib, cool, something to keep in mind then :)
[22:50] <mynameis1eleted> x32 is slightly faster by 15-20%
[22:50] <AndroUser> (AndroUser) Hey anyone willing to Skype me and help me to install ubuntu 12.04 ON ubuntu
[22:50] <mynameis1eleted> and take less memory
[22:50] <James_Epp> mynameis1eleted: I couldn't tell you, mate. Sorry.
[22:51] <Marcello> I installed Ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron and I am no longer able to access the internet via ethernet or wireless. How can I fix this?
[22:51] <mynameis1eleted> I see gcc libraries supporitng x32
[22:51] <AndroUser> (AndroUser) Hey anyone willing to Skype me and help me to install ubuntu 12.04 ON windows 8 I meant
[22:51] <mynameis1eleted> libx32ncurses5  is a seperate package from lib32ncurses5
[22:51] <elky> jrib, you're right about ctrl+d though
[22:51] <mong> AndroUser: by 'on', do you mean dual-boot?
[22:51] <jrib> PrototypeX29A: well maybe lightdm needs to be restarted after you install awesome but if you installed awesome a long time ago, I assume that has happened.  You might want to check for open bugs in that case
[22:51] <Marcello> I installed Ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron and I am no longer able to access the internet via ethernet or wireless. How can I fix this?
[22:51] <elky> but it auto-adds the current location
[22:52] <AndroUser> Yes mong I hate win 8 but some software I need
[22:52] <mynameis1eleted> x32 also allows 64-bit pointers for large arrays that mgith need  >4GB ram
[22:52] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: lightdm is the piece of software responsible for the login screen?
[22:52] <mynameis1eleted> and big data to be mixed with 64
[22:52] <jrib> PrototypeX29A: should be.  Check that it's running
[22:52] <Marcello> Is someone going to help me with my internet question?
[22:52] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: yes, it is
[22:52] <jrib> !helpme | Marcello
[22:53] <Marcello> !helpe
[22:53] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: it used to gdm, right? can i just go back?
[22:53] <mynameis1eleted> I think gentoo was the first distro to have a full build in x32
[22:53] <Marcello> Is that really a bot?
[22:53] <jrib> PrototypeX29A: yeah, you can switch to gdm if you want.  Lightdm has been default for a few releases now though
[22:53] <Marcello> !helpme
[22:53] <AndroUser> Would you not mind skyping me mong to get dual boot ubuntu 12.04 and windows 8
[22:53] <jrib> !dualboot | AndroUser
[22:54] <mong> AndroUser: sorry, skype and uefi are both out of my comfort zone
[22:54] <Marcello> jrib: Do you know how to help me with this?
[22:54] <chvx> seronis: why are there other partition schemes?
[22:54] <AndroUser> Ok
[22:54] <jrib> Marcello: no, only what's in the wiki link about wireless
[22:55] <seronis> chvx: historical reasons for when upgrades didnt go as smoothly as they do today so that peoples /home directories were more secure between reinstllations
[22:56] <Marcello> jrib: I tried that already and it didn't work. Not only was it unclear but it was also filled with broken links to important downloads that they "said" would fix the problem.
[22:56] <jrib> kristenbb: I doubt that would happen.  But you can reset the password like I said.  If you want to just try mounting the encrypted partition directly (like from a live cd), you can « /msg ubottu encrption » for instructions
[22:56] <harris> hi
[22:56] <seronis> chvx: for administrative types who like to switch between distroes and have simultaneous installs.  basically for  'not your average user' type uses
[22:56] <Darkchaos> May a blinking Cursor while booting from USB indicate a damaged mbr?
[22:56] <jrib> Marcello: last I checked there was the broadcom sta driver available from "hardware drivers" or whatever it's called now.  That's all I know.  Works fine on my macbook
[22:57] <chvx> seronis: how about swap, i heard that you should partition it twice your RAM right?
[22:57] <Marcello> jrib: Thanks for the help, I'll check it out. (ps. is typing someones name followed by a colon the way you ping somebody?)
[22:58] <bekks> chvx: Thats wrong.
[22:58] <bekks> chvx: Thats was a rule, around 20 years ago.
[22:58] <chvx> bekks: haha ok :D
[22:58] <jrib> Marcello: most clients will highlight your own nick, so including a persons name will tend to grab their attention
[22:58] <bekks> chvx: Nowadays, you need 1x RAM = SWAP for hibernation.
[22:58] <elky> Marcello, or a , but tab completion will append that automatically. if your first choice doesn't appear when you tab complete, hit tab another time and it'll give you other options
[22:59] <chvx> bekks: 1x?
[22:59] <seronis> chvx: instead of 2x
[23:00] <seronis> chvx: but in the 'big picture' it doesnt really matter.  anywhere in that range is good
[23:00] <chvx> seronis: my ram is 6gb so 6gig swap
[23:00] <bekks> chvx: If you want to use hibernation.
[23:00] <chvx> bekks: what purpose have it?
[23:01] <Tex_Nick> Darkchaos:  when bootinf from a live USB ... that's kinda common
[23:01] <seronis> chvx: hibernation is for turning your power off without going through a 'shutdown' process.
[23:01] <seronis> chvx: your ram is cached to disk, and it will use that disk image to restore ram contents on power-up
[23:02] <chvx> seronis: so nothing else than that? hah
[23:02] <seronis> so even programs and files that are 'unsaved' are restored
[23:02] <seronis> with Windows its faster than rebooting so i used it
[23:02] <seronis> linux reboots for me have been faster than Windows hibernation so i actually shut my laptop off now
[23:03] <Darkchaos> Tex_Nick: So How can I fix it? On every machine it's just a blinking cursor. Not even a UNetBootIn Menu
[23:03] <seronis> its a matter of preference though.
[23:03] <jvm_> hi. i have a usb boot flash drive with xubuntu on it, it works fine on my notebook. on my desktop for some reason (even while bios seems correctly configured) it wouldn't boot. so i used grub 1.98 commandline with 'root (hd2,0); chainloader +1; boot' which shows me "Boot error.", even while grub apparently can read the file system (checked with 'find /[TAB]'. now i don't know if the "Boot error." came from grub or from the loaded kernel, and h
[23:03] <jvm_> ave no idea what's wrong. any idea?
[23:04] <Tex_Nick> Darkchaos:  if it's not booting at all then the image on the USB is probably bad
[23:05] <Darkchaos> I rewrote it again. May there be a partition error? fdisk does not complain, but gdisk does with lots of errors...
[23:06] <Tex_Nick> Darkchaos:  check the ISO you used to create the USB ... that would be an MD5 hash check\
[23:06] <WeThePeople> how do i run a bash script in the terminal
[23:07] <mong> WeThePeople: if it is marked executable, "./filename.sh"
[23:07] <Darkchaos> that's correct. It worked once but now as I did a ext3 and a hfs partition to it, it doesnt
[23:07] <chvx> seronis: but can i after i have partition and installed my linux, later change the partition?
[23:08] <Darkchaos> WeThePeople: or sh filename.sh if it doesn't have chmod u+x filename.sh
[23:08] <Tex_Nick> WeThePeople:  in the directory where the script is try ... ./myScript.sh ... make sure the script is executable
[23:08] <WeThePeople> i forgot the exe permission
[23:08] <WeThePeople> thanks
[23:10] <servvs> after removing unit and all of its dependencies, I am having trouble getting nautilus to install without installing unity stuff
[23:10] <seronis> chvx:  http://www.howtoforge.com/partitioning_with_gparted
[23:10] <servvs> is there a way to do this or does nautilus now depend on certain unity things?
[23:11] <chvx> seronis: so i can partition without any errors?
[23:12] <seronis> chvx: theorhetically yes.  i've never had to do it personally
[23:12] <number-7> how does a program get the number of lines on the xterm its running on?
[23:12] <chvx> seronis: good to know
[23:13] <otak_> number-7: stty size
[23:13] <PrototypeX29A> re
[23:13] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: switching to gdm didn't change a thing, still no awesome in the selection
[23:14] <number-7> what, like system("stty size") ?
[23:14] <servvs> how can I install nautilus without unity dependencies?
[23:14] <number-7> to a pipe?
[23:14] <StaticLNX> is there a way to have ubuntu search for the fastest mirror and update my sources.list on ubuntu-server 12.10?
[23:14] <jrib> PrototypeX29A: did you check for open bugs?  The /usr/share/xsessions/awesome.desktop provided in the package might have a syntax error or something
[23:15] <number-7> john@compaq:~$ stty size
[23:15] <number-7> 0 0
[23:15] <number-7> john@compaq:~$
[23:15] <PrototypeX29A> since my upgrade to 13.04 i get a lot of "Sorry, Ubuntu 13.04 has experienced an internal error" is that problems that now appear, or is it just that they are more visible and have probably existed before?
[23:15] <number-7> how does that help?
[23:15] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: i am probably trying another wm first, i am just desperate to get rid of gnome3 and have a usable system again
[23:16] <otak_> oh i get height width
[23:16] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: my system really is slow now, though i am not sure that it is the fault of gnome3
[23:16] <chvx> seronis: is it possibly to partition like /documents, or something random?
[23:16] <Tex_Nick> PrototypeX29A:  i've encountered a few of those errors on 13.04 ... out of curosity, what desktop are you using ?
[23:17] <PrototypeX29A> Tex_Nick: gnome3, it seems
[23:17] <seronis> chvx:  partitions can be mounted to ANY location in your filesystem heirarchy you choose
[23:17] <PrototypeX29A> PrototypeX29A: i am not very sure, but it is very different to the gnome i had before and it matches the complaints of linus torvalds i have read about gnome3
[23:17] <cnf> mount it to /dev/null
[23:18] <cnf> always fun
[23:18]  * seronis facepalms
[23:18] <l9> PrototypeX29A: fluxbox is a good wm
[23:18] <PrototypeX29A> äh sorry that should go to Tex_Nick, not to me
[23:18] <cnf> seronis: not too hard, i do hope :P
[23:18] <sere> fluxbox is so sexy
[23:18] <seronis> its a one line command.. see   'man mount'
[23:18] <PrototypeX29A> l9: i was going to try mate, but it seems it is not in the standard repo
[23:19] <l9> yupp sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[23:19] <servvs> man everything I try to install is trying to reinstall unity libraries
[23:19] <servvs> is there any way to stop this from happening?
[23:20] <l9> BUT be warned its not for the mouse clicking guy
[23:20] <PrototypeX29A> at one point i had the problem that i was stuck to gnome, because my the wifi configuration didn't work on any other wm, and i wasn't able to find out how to use wifi with another wm
[23:20] <seronis> my solution wont work for you servvs  (install xubuntu from start)
[23:20] <servvs> we need gnubuntu
[23:20] <seronis> CLI ubuntu ?
[23:21] <otak_> servvs: apt-cache depends nautilus, a | means alternative
[23:21] <PrototypeX29A> l9: i am not the mouse clicking guy, but the problem with the more exotic wms are that they expect the user to crawl through tons of manpages, where i clearly lack the motivation
[23:21] <MaynardWaters> hello, I have a 12.04 LTS install on an external HD, and I have moved it to a old ibm thinkpad
[23:21] <servvs> I just want gnome shell as my default, and want to remove my unity dependencies, but every time I try to isntall something (anything) it wants to reinstall unity things
[23:21] <MaynardWaters> it lets me log in using my normal password
[23:21] <AndroUser> Anyone comfortable with skyping me to dual boot windows 8 and ubuntu 12.04
[23:21] <MaynardWaters> then once I am logged in, the numbers that are associated with letters take over rather than the letters
[23:21] <MaynardWaters> so i cant complete my password again
[23:22] <MaynardWaters> any suggestions on how to fix?
[23:22] <usr13> AndroUser: See my pm.
[23:22] <l9> PrototypeX29A: its not that hard when you first get into it, but it takes some effort too get it the way you want it. I have now a complet fluxbox that starts all the needed apps at boot
[23:22] <cnf> sight, still struggling with the stupid PAM
[23:23] <usr13> AndroUser: Want to do it now?
[23:23] <servvs> so is there any way to not install unity garbage with nautilus anymore?
[23:23] <AndroUser> Yes
[23:23] <servvs> or anything, I don't understand why even xchat is asking for unity libs
[23:23] <usr13> AndroUser: See my pm
[23:24] <Tex_Nick> PrototypeX29A:  i'm using the "gnome-fallback" desktop enviornment and experienced a few glitchs such as what you mentioned ... i've been told that gnome-fallback is kinda quirky though ... i haven't used unity much ever so it might just be a desktop enviornment issue
[23:24] <usr13> AndroUser: So, let's get going....
[23:24] <StaticLNX> is there a way to have ubuntu search for the fastest mirror and update my sources.list on ubuntu-server 12.10?
[23:25] <PrototypeX29A> Tex_Nick: i just try get rid of gnome3 and unity, but i don't really seem to have an option right now
[23:25] <cnf> servvs: if you do an apt-cache show <pkgname> you can see what packages is depends on, and what packages it reccomends
[23:25] <cnf> servvs: iirc by default ubuntu also installs the recommended stuff
[23:26] <servvs> yeah, xchat libunity9, nautilus libunity9, many others libunity9 and many more
[23:26] <WeThePeople> is this>>>  ~/   <<<home dir?
[23:26] <fictive> I'm running ubuntu from bootcd right now, I just want to test if I can spoof my BT mac adress with the bdaddr tool. I had it in my VMWare ubuntu guest machine, but I cannot find it anywhere here. How can I install it? I've tried compiling the bluez-5.5 with the test flag enabled, but it keeps telling me it can't find the systemd init dir. any help would be appreciated
[23:26] <cnf> servvs: as required, or recommended?
[23:26] <servvs> required
[23:26] <cnf> hmm, weird
[23:26] <fictive> ubuntu 13.04, by the way.
[23:26] <servvs> I used this command for nautilus: sudo apt-get install --download-only nautilus
[23:26] <StaticLNX> anyone? D:
[23:26] <servvs> then sudo dpkg -i nautilus*
[23:27] <servvs> and it wouldn't run because of missing dependencies
[23:27] <otak_> WeThePeople: yup
[23:27] <Tex_Nick> PrototypeX29A:  LXDE has been recommended to me by a few channel guru's ... i've installed it, just haven't found time to play customize it though
[23:27] <cnf> i don't see any unity stuff in there?
[23:27] <servvs> tried no-isntall-recommendeds and still tries to install them as dependencies (required)
[23:29] <chvx> seronis: why are there defualt manual choices in ubuntu?
[23:29] <StaticLNX> anyon? D: is there a way to have ubuntu search for the fastest mirror and update my sources.list on ubuntu-server 12.10?
[23:29] <PrototypeX29A> re
[23:30] <otak_> StaticLNX: netselect
[23:30] <mong> StaticLNX: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39922/how-do-you-select-the-fastest-mirror-from-the-command-line
[23:32] <WeThePeople> my headphones keep not working between reboots any ideas?
[23:32] <seronis> chvx:  because people like choices ?
[23:32] <bhalash> WeThePeople: They work, but don't work after a reboot, or they have never worked?
[23:32] <fictive> anyone experienced with bluez and bdaddr?
[23:33] <WeThePeople> bhalash, as of this boot they dont work but the last reboot they worked, and nothing was changed
[23:33] <StaticLNX> otak: I tried typing sudo netselect and sudo netselect-apt and get command not found
[23:34] <NineTeen67Comet> hello all; I had to redo my web server and now I can't seem to access my shortcut to my web directory via ftp (Proftp). can you all help?
[23:35] <fictive> or are there perhaps any other ways of changing my BT mac address other than using the bdaddr tool?
[23:35] <l9> NineTeen67Comet: have you configured the proftp?
[23:36] <StaticLNX> otak:sudo apt-get install netselect returns no instaltion candidate
[23:36] <NineTeen67Comet> l9: yes; it's allowing my access to my home directory (both users home directories) just like before, but last time I made a sim link to /var/www in my home directory and accessed it that way.
[23:37] <mong> StaticLNX: you can download the deb at http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/netselect
[23:37] <l9> NineTeen67Comet: might be a configure setting that you have overlooked is it allowed too follow sym links
[23:38] <StaticLNX> k
[23:38] <StaticLNX> ty
[23:38] <NineTeen67Comet> l9: I'm thinking the same thing .. I'll go back to diggin ..
[23:40] <Tex_Nick> NineTeen67Comet:  1967 Comet was a COOL ride ;)
[23:41] <NineTeen67Comet> Tex_Nick: I've owned mine since the late 80's .. it's my summer car now ..
[23:41] <Tex_Nick> NineTeen67Comet:  oh man i'm jealous ;-)
[23:42] <ramon> i can hear sound from youtube but when i try stream a tv from firefox the totem application plays the video but with no sound....what should i do?
[23:42] <NineTeen67Comet> If my hdd hadn't crapped yesterday the pictures would be up .. for now .. that's that .. lol
[23:44] <kristenbb> As I said earlier, for an unknown reason, I am not able to login into my account anymore. I didn't change the password, but it's not working. My home is encrypted, and I'd like to get it back.  I was able to boot into a live cd, and when I use ecrypt-unwrap-passphrase, my password is recognized, so I guess all is not lost, but I'd really like step by step instructions to be sure I can recover my files, they are important ones and I have no backup.
[23:44] <bekks> kristenbb: Then create one, copy all your files to another disk.
[23:44] <kristenbb> bekks: create one what?
[23:45] <bekks> kristenbb: Create a backup.
[23:45] <kristenbb> a backup of my encrypted files?
[23:45] <kristenbb> is that useful?
[23:45] <bekks> kristenbb: A backup of your important files - not encrypted.
[23:45] <kristenbb> well I will as soon as I can access them again...
[23:46] <bekks> kristenbb: You can. You just decrypted them, as you said.
[23:47] <kristenbb> I don't know the whole process of decrypting them, I just went around in google and found that ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase command, which I tried and it outputs something when I enter the correct password.
[23:47] <kristenbb> so basically, I have the encrypted files, I have the correct password, my question is how  to connect the two.
[23:50] <barnex> hello
[23:50] <barnex> I recently installed ubuntu 12.04 with full disk encryption
[23:50] <barnex> what was that encryption? luks?
[23:51] <chop> hi, I'm trying to mount a samba folder with command "mount -t smbfs smb://..." but getting the error unknow filesystem smbfs. I can't find a package named smbfs with apt-cache search. Can someone help me with what package to install?
[23:51] <barnex> ok, nvm, seems it was luks.
[23:52] <bekks> chop: Use cifs instead of smbfs
[23:52] <Dr_willis> chop,  thats not the right syntax for mount either
[23:53] <Dr_willis> smb:// is used by nautilus  - not mount
[23:53] <chop> bekks: do you mean apt-get install cifs?
[23:53] <bekks> chop: No. mount -t cifs ...
[23:54] <Dr_willis> !samba
[23:54] <chop> Dr_willis: oh. should i use //192.168... instead?
[23:54] <Dr_willis> chop,  only if you want it to work... ;P
[23:54] <Dr_willis> since smb:// is totally NOT what mount wants
[23:54] <chop> ok thanks guys
[23:54] <Dr_willis> smb:// is special syntax used by the file manager (nautilus) and gnome apps
[23:59] <ubukou> hey folks. i have a project that i would like to do. i have a server box with raid controller in and 12 HDrives. it seems to have trouble turning on. power seems to work (MoBo led is on) but when i press power nothing happens. i tryied swiching the power with the reset button and still the same.Just to be clear the computer does NOTHING, no beeps no fans, nothing. now there are two questions need some help with. 1.possible problem with PC? (
[23:59] <ubukou> PSU, MOBO, Buttons, CPU) 2. is there a way to make a server connected to a router and have it WOL only when i try to access the hard drives and then power off, so i save power?