=== lars is now known as Genyar === jono is now known as Guest9541 [05:15] kubotu: weather [06:33] good morning [07:42] Good morning. [08:48] "apachelogger expired from team" "echidnaman expired from team" "david.wonderly expired from team" eek we have only half a council! [08:50] woah [08:50] in a few hours, perhaps you can ping them by voice [08:50] :-) [09:11] Good afternoon Kubuntu devs and contributors and users:) [09:11] and those that we cant classify ? [09:13] soee: Yeah sure [10:25] don't you guys want to announce 4.10.3 on kubuntu.org? [10:31] yes I'll get onto that === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw [11:09] \o [11:20] Morning guys [11:21] hi Darkwing, Quintasan [11:22] 3 1/2 hours till mumble meeting. [11:23] gotta do my uni stuff by then I guess [11:34] haha [11:34] looks like I won't be able to talk xD [11:35] Because of a mumble issue or uni issue? [11:35] voice issue [11:35] Oh crap [11:36] During the weeekend I've been giving lectures on a con and now I sound like I've inhaled some helium [11:36] :D [11:41] Hey all [11:43] I'm out of Mumble today… [11:43] Meh, biology test [11:43] hey BluesKaj [11:44] Sorry to hear that smartboyhw [11:44] Hi Darkwing [11:44] Christ. [11:44] Riddell: was there an agenda for the mumble meeting anywhere? [11:45] I want to add one... [11:45] Darkwing: no, do start one [11:51] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/MumbleMeeting/May [11:58] agenda up and email sent to kubu-devel [12:06] thanks === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [12:15] ahoneybun: ping [12:18] sorry about the .3 announcement Riddell, I forgot it again -.- [12:18] are you taking care of it? [12:20] HURRR [12:20] yofel: You don't happen to know Java, do you? [12:20] Quintasan: I do, what's the problem? [12:21] I'm trying to make a Binary Tree in Java but I want to use generic types but I can't figure out the comparing part [12:21] yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5683528 [12:21] Here is the code [12:21] and of course I get error: bad operand types for binary operator '>' for that [12:22] but I have no idea how to solve that [12:23] It's probably easy but I don't really want to read the whole docs if I can avoid it [12:26] yofel: I can do it, raring and precise in updates ppa known good? [12:28] Riddell: raring in updates, quantal and precise in backports. IIRC they should be fine, they working in virtualbox, I fixed the copy issue for precise and quantal looks ok [12:29] *worked [12:32] Darkwing: Can you add a "release cycle" item for me please? So difficult to do on mobile. [12:32] Or rather, "release milestones" [12:33] smartboyhw_: meaning? [12:34] Darkwing: How many Alphas should we release. [12:34] I got ya. [12:34] yofel: Any ideas? [12:34] Quintasan: I'm not expert on generic types, but looking [12:34] Mmkay, thanks [12:37] smartboyhw_: done [12:37] Quintasan: wait, you're comparing generic objects. There is no direct comparison for objects in java. Comparable has a compareTo() method, use that [12:37] hmm [12:37] I see [12:37] Quintasan: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/lang/Comparable.html [12:38] java, for better or worse, doesn't support operator overloading. [12:39] Darkwing: Thx. I can't attend the meeting on voice but I will be here.. [12:40] Hmm, thunderstorms here… [12:42] What on Earth [12:44] Quintasan: ? === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [13:15] Darkwing: ping? [13:16] Hey Riddell [13:16] wanting to test mumble [14:03] Riddell: I messed up and set the election to end at the end of the day, rather than the beginning. We'll have a full council in a few hours. [14:03] the tension is rising! [14:13] Riddell: you wanted to test? [14:18] FYI, I'm probably going to be late for the meeting. Today is going different than I planned. [14:21] ScottK: Hurray [14:30] Riddell or Darkwing: mumble test [14:31] Quintasan: lets do it [14:32] if anyone is talking I can't hear it for some reason [14:32] I'm gonna reconfig [14:33] * Quintasan makes the recoring louder [14:38] valorie: btw our troll is now trolling kde-devel [14:38] apachelogger: Which troll? [14:38] the one we were talking about on the mailing list [14:39] apachelogger: What the… [14:39] apachelogger: Can you hit him with banhammer? [14:39] He seriously doesn't know he is trolling… [14:39] no powers in kde [14:39] all seaLne's fault :P [14:39] I am joining in the game… [14:39] he doesn't trust me [14:40] smartboyhw: why that's a pun right there :D [14:40] apachelogger: LOL [14:42] Just testing. [14:42] HWAT THE THELL [14:42] Darkwing, yofel: anyone talking? [14:42] I was. [14:42] Darkwing: Why you need op! [14:42] Quintasan: do you see my icon being red? [14:42] ? [14:42] HELLO QUINTASAN [14:42] yofel: not really [14:42] apachelogger: HI [14:42] rofl [14:43] smartboyhw: I'm part of the IRC team. I have OPS in most of the #ubuntu-* namespaces [14:43] I'm killing murmurd, sec [14:43] :( [14:43] murderer [14:43] lol [14:43] Darkwing: Sure. [14:43] * smartboyhw is a stupid thing on IRC [14:44] next try [14:44] did I loose my IRC powers yet? [14:44] hi jt [14:44] Hey jtechidna (new nick?) [14:44] I feel like making the channel invite only or something :P [14:44] secondary nick [14:44] lol apachelogger [14:44] anyone? [14:44] apachelogger: Nice one:P [14:44] heard me? [14:44] "U DID NOT REELECT ME, NOW I TAKE OVER YOUR CHANNEL" [14:44] Nope. You hear me? [14:44] no [14:44] wtf [14:44] is [14:44] going [14:45] on [14:45] all your channel are belong to me. [14:45] this is daft. === Darkwing changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Upgrade QA : http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | Kubuntu Council election: Voting in progress | saucy meeting Monday 15:00UTC | all your channel are belong to me. [14:45] OHSHI- [14:45] BAN INCOMMING [14:45] :O [14:45] I think we should actually made the channel for people who have registered… [14:45] Darkwing: What the hell? [14:46] ?? [14:46] I'm talking all the time, can anyone hear me? [14:46] Nope [14:46] and you guys can't hear me either? [14:46] I can hear you in my heart. [14:46] Darkwing: Why do you add apachelogger's sentence to the channel topic? [14:46] Darkwing: I can't [14:46] because it is so apachelogger [14:46] Darkwing: I don't even see that you're saying something [14:46] Same here [14:47] I saw your recording though [14:47] worth some ice cream don't you think? [14:47] I heads my recording but I don't see you guys saying anything? [14:47] * apachelogger needs to find some ice cream before he goes mad [14:47] server restart? [14:47] * smartboyhw thinks that apachelogger is a nadverb more than an adjective… [14:47] yeah [14:47] It's a noun :P [14:48] apacheloggerish? [14:48] This sounds so silly [14:48] Quintasan: Nice [14:48] I'm seriously going to start sining [14:48] singing* [14:48] lol [14:49] Darkwing: Say "BLAAAAARHG" [14:49] I see you guys have had your presence graced by out latest troll :) [14:49] I did. nothing? [14:49] our [14:49] Yeah, nothing [14:49] * smartboyhw is fortunate that he is out of this Mumble mess… [14:49] yofel: Y U BREAK SERVER [14:49] wtf [14:49] The trolls is not welcome here. [14:49] I didn't as much as TOUCH it since the last time [14:49] Darkwing: Of course;) [14:49] Try restarting the mumble server? [14:50] IMPLYING NOT TOUCHING IT INSURES THAT IT WILL WORK NEXT TIME [14:50] lol [14:50] go to Session maybe? [14:50] Anything? [14:50] No [14:50] nope [14:51] I'm talking [14:51] you're not [14:51] so am I but no one hears anything. [14:51] @_@ [14:51] well he's been cri=uising the chans spewing his negativity about kde and insulting those who try to help , yet no ops will kick or ban him and I've seen ppl get banned for a lot less in the past [14:51] He speaks in here and I'll ban him. [14:51] I don't have OP powers in KDE-devel otherwise I wouldn [14:52] *would [14:52] ok thanks Darkwing [14:53] We need a troll management strategy… [14:53] Darkwing: he is [14:53] banhammer... [14:53] (Seriously) [14:53] THIS MUMBLE [14:53] SERIOUSLY [14:53] smartboyhw: ban :P [14:53] is murmur working yet? [14:53] ok, plan b [14:53] or did yofel break it entirely? ^^ [14:53] apachelogger: Yrp [14:53] connect to yofel.dyndns.org [14:53] that's not set up, but work [14:53] s [14:54] only need one chan anyway [14:54] yofel: Can't connect xD [14:54] ... drat [14:54] [10:54 AM] Server connection failed: Host unreachable. [14:54] plan C [14:54] loo [14:54] ... [14:54] lol [14:54] ^^ [14:54] *lol [14:54] what's the problem anyway? [14:55] No one can hear anyone else. [14:55] One can hear himself speaking [14:55] but noone else [14:55] trouble is these guys seems knowledgeable , and they should be challenged to help others instead of letting them spew [14:55] it's not transmitting any audio-related data [14:55] so where is everyone? [14:55] here [14:55] BluesKaj: that particular person is not [14:55] Riddell: Here… [14:55] Riddell: We can't hear anyone speaking [14:55] We have a plan D: Use IRC… [14:55] I'm the only one in session [14:55] ooh an apachelogger [14:55] yofel broke it. [14:55] Riddell: LOL [14:55] works for Riddell and me :P [14:56] Riddell: As in I'm talking but Darkwing can't hear me [14:56] connect to kyofel.dyndns.org [14:56] Now now now, girls stop fighting… [14:56] just installed it, so it *should* work [14:56] apachelogger, ok , I'll take your word for it :) [14:56] And stop blaming [14:56] First one is working [14:56] yofel: Clear cache? [14:56] IT'S ALIVE [14:56] \o/ [14:57] Quintasan: are you on the server? [14:57] try the first one again. [14:57] cos it doesn't look it to me [14:57] Riddell, Darkwing: kyofel.dyndns.org [14:58] apachelogger: there are two servers! [14:58] :O [14:58] bah I missed doctor who [14:58] gj [14:58] spoilers!!!!! [14:58] the name of the doctor is.... [14:58] shadeslayer: Boo Doctor Who! [14:59] open sesame [14:59] noooooo [14:59] apachelogger: rofl [14:59] * smartboyhw laughs without stopping [14:59] to mumble or not to mumble, for I have to have dinner [15:00] hmmm, I can't connect to kyofel [15:00] Disasterous servers… [15:00] the doctor broke it [15:00] Seriously, let's just do it on IRC… [15:00] yes ^^ [15:00] I can do irc , mumble nope [15:00] We can troubleshoot Mumble later [15:00] right port? [15:00] shadeslayer: Same [15:00] shadeslayer: do mumble [15:01] valorie: 209.141.41.96 [15:01] Quintasan: I need sustenance [15:01] shadeslayer: I call bs [15:01] u need coffee [15:01] valorie: 209.141.41.96 [15:01] just in case that really matters [15:01] ! [15:01] * apachelogger hands Quintasan some ice cream [15:01] I haven't eaten since today's morning [15:01] neither have I [15:01] so go on mumble [15:01] !!! [15:01] irc ... irc .... irc ... [15:01] oh wait [15:02] irc.... irc..... irc...... [15:02] no headphones as well [15:02] Voice is much simplier. [15:02] lol [15:02] and personal. [15:02] shadeslayer is fail [15:02] I broke them [15:02] a mac as no speakers? ^^ [15:02] provided one can speak [15:02] in the flight [15:02] *has [15:02] Darkwing: And difficult to set up… [15:02] I got outvoted for Google+ hangout [15:02] speaking hurts as hell [15:02] :P [15:02] meh speakers [15:02] takes 30 seconds. [15:02] Darkwing: ROFL [15:03] Seriously, can we do IRC? I have an agenda item listed… [15:03] And I have no ways on Mumble [15:03] I'm at mobile… [15:04] smartboyhw: You can talk here and someone will be reading that probably [15:04] smartboyhw: What type of mobile device [15:04] Quintasan: Sure [15:04] there's a mumble android app [15:04] Darkwing: Samsung Galaxy Pocket GT-S5300 [15:04] smartboyhw: Android? [15:04] everyone use the android app! [15:04] I have no android! [15:04] Android 2.3.6 for the god's sakr [15:05] apachelogger: I will be killed if I'm speaking loudly [15:05] smartboyhw: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lordmarty.mumbleclient&hl=en [15:05] Darkwing: ^ [15:05] smartboyhw: increase recording volume? :P [15:05] apachelogger: No. [15:06] And my phone records sound like a duck… [15:06] smartboyhw: you could at least listen? [15:06] (Tried to record a piano before, terrible) [15:06] yofel: I can't turn on speakers as I shall be killed and I hate earphones (and I'll be killed by using that, anyway) [15:06] "please do this asap. if you ask in #kubuntu-devel you'll probably find someone to help you. last time it took quite a while until everyone had it installed and configured so please be prepared this time around ;)" [15:07] FWIW [15:07] .... [15:07] :P [15:07] smartboyhw: bummer [15:07] Oh good, that troll is trolling again… [15:09] where ? he's been quiet for 20 mins or so [15:09] BluesKaj: #kde-devel [15:10] JontheEchidna, just a minor fix of code elegance that I failed to see before the commit: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314549#c4 [15:10] And he is putting apachelogger as Stalin (certainly not) [15:10] KDE bug 314549 in libqapt "Process more complex markings files" [Wishlist,Resolved: fixed] [15:10] smartboyhw, ok , it's entertaining :) [15:12] even when he was insulting me ...it's an interesting study in social moron-ism :) [15:12] BluesKaj:lo [15:12] lol [15:16] jdoles, is here just he can't chat :D [15:17] Yes. And we are happy with that [15:17] bye bye [15:18] Yeah! [15:18] apachelogger: You kicked him? [15:18] no, that was a /part [15:18] Brilliant choice [15:19] Darkwing, Quintasan: What have you guys talked and are talking about? [15:19] someone needs to do the same on #kubuntu as well... On the night (my time) he would unprovoked start ranting again calling the packagers drunk etc. [15:19] smartboyhw: Docs now. [15:19] yeah , the troll finally did something positive [15:21] vHanda: You around? My Nepomuk is acting up again. [15:21] did you just update to master? [15:21] cause I just pushed a HUGE change [15:22] No, I'm currently on 13.04 with backports. [15:23] jessie: okay then. What's up? [15:23] palasso: he knows that he can talk in #kubuntu, he does not know that I have a highlight on his nick :P [15:24] apachelogger, ;) [15:24] vHanda: Nepomuk server starts but the file indexer doesn't. [15:24] jessie: ps aux | grep nepomuk ? [15:25] I see the feeder, the server, the service stub for nepomuk storage and the controller [15:25] could you paste the output please? [15:26] http://pastie.org/7934968 [15:26] vHanda: Also, log from starting nepomuk (tail -f ~/.xsession-errors | grep Nepomuk): http://pastie.org/7934969 [15:27] hmm, so it cannot initialize virtuoso [15:28] jessie: what all soprano packages do you have installed? [15:28] vHanda: More data: It does this every time. I can remove all Nepomuk related configs/db's and when it gets to a certain point this occus every time. [15:29] oh. So if you delete the db then it starts the fileindexer? [15:29] Correct. For at least a little while. And then some file or something causes it to break. [15:30] libsoprano-dev libsoprano4 soprano-daemon [15:32] (smartboyhw_) Heh, not yet at my agenda item on Mumble? [15:32] mumble keeps dropping voice, so much jitter :/ [15:32] I posted it in #kubuntu… [15:32] Wrongly [15:34] smartboyhw_: we are talking about it now. [15:34] I'll have the audio uploaded soon after it ends. [15:35] Darkwing: In my opinion, 1-2 alphas is enough. [15:35] Probably skip Alpha 1. [15:35] smartboyhw_: We are looking at the KDE release schedule as well. [15:35] Following all 3 is too many. [15:35] Darkwing: Great. [15:36] I bet one could make this into a daft punk song, everyone sounds so weird [15:36] lol [15:37] shadeslayer: use autotune [15:37] ohohohohohohoohohohohohoohohohohohohohoohohoh [15:37] The Kubuntu Developers song, nice. [15:37] 2 days [15:37] shadeslayer: TWO DAYS [15:37] android app doesn't have it [15:37] SHADESLAYER [15:37] smartboyhw_: rather skip alpha2, that's right between 4.11 rc1 and rc2 [15:37] * ScottK waves [15:37] TWO FRIGGIN DAYS [15:37] apachelogger: feature freeze ? [15:37] Trying to install mumble [15:37] yofel: right. [15:37] shadeslayer: RAM [15:37] oh [15:37] R.A.M. [15:38] okay [15:38] ScottK: Note the server change in my email [15:38] ScottK: When will the vote end? [15:38] <3 [15:38] Darkwing: Thanks. [15:38] vHanda: Anything else I can get you to help me get Nepomuk working again? I miss it. [15:38] smartboyhw_: ~23:59 UTC [15:39] ScottK: Hmm, that's 20 minutes later. [15:39] Than what? [15:39] shadeslayer: got a sec? [15:39] yes [15:39] It ends when I click the button to end it. [15:39] That's ~when I plan to do it. [15:40] ScottK: Ah… [15:40] vHanda: do I need to start my laptop? or will my phone suffice? [15:40]