[07:39] <elwood> hi all
[07:39] <elwood> I'm reading abou ubuntu and arm, but it's the arm image a full desktop or just a server without X?
[07:40] <infinity> Which "the ARM image" are you referring to?
[07:42] <elwood> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM  this one
[07:42] <elwood> i have an allwinner10 tablet, it's a pengpod, and I'm running debian+lxde on it.
[07:42] <infinity> We ship an image for Pandas that's a full desktop, and then some proof of concept ubuntu-touch images that are tablet/phone images, and then we ship netboot stuff for a few platforms that you might call "server".
[07:43] <infinity> elwood: The OMAP, mx53, and ac100 images listed there are desktop images.
[07:43] <infinity> elwood: But given that you don't want an INSTALLER image anyway, since we can't boot on your hardware, the point's probably moot.
[07:43] <elwood> infinity: so I have just to try if they are booting for my hw?
[07:44] <infinity> elwood: None of them will boot on an A10.
[07:44] <infinity> elwood: I can save you the trouble, if you were hoping for a bootable image, we don't ship one that works for you.
[07:45] <elwood> infinity: so I have to create an image on my own or there is no possibility at all?
[07:46] <infinity> elwood: Creating an installer image seems like a bit of a waste of time for just you.  If I were you, since you clearly have a kernel that works (which we don't ship for the A10), and a Debian installation, I'd debootstrap saucy to a subdirectory, chroot in, and play around a bit.
[07:46] <infinity> elwood: Likely will still be a bit of fail there unless you also have 3D drivers, etc.
[07:46] <elwood> yes I have a debian wheezy working
[07:47] <elwood> with mali/opengl support
[07:47] <infinity> Kay, well.  If you can make that go, you can probably also make Ubunty go.  I'd just scrap the idea of trying to create an "image", and instead just piece together a manual install, but that's just me.
[07:48] <infinity> Not sure what the state of A10 support in the multiplatform kernel is, but if that's improving, maybe we can enable it for raring.
[07:48] <infinity> Even then, we'd also need to sort out bootloaders and other messes, which is platform-dependant, not SoC-dependant, so you'd probably still be in manual install land.
[07:49] <elwood> yes, I mean manual install with create an image, I've expressed wrong. English is not my language :)
[07:50] <infinity> Sure, well, the easiest manual ways to go would be to either debootstrap something on your Debian system, or download and untar ubuntu-core to a subdirectory on your Debian system, and then play from there.
[07:50] <infinity> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/releases/13.04/release/
[07:51] <elwood> so there are packs for arm?
[07:51] <infinity> Neither one of those is quite "installing", per se, but the next move from there could be to try to jame your kernel and driver into an Ubuntu rootfs and deplace Debian with it, if you wanted.
[07:54] <elwood> ok so I'll try, thanks for the suggestions