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[16:51] <zequence> Hi. I'd like some help with targetting this bug to precise and quantal please https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1163638
[16:51] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1163638 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio fails to release card to jack" [Undecided,Confirmed]
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[17:42] <hggdh> zequence: Ì targeted both Precise and Quantal
[17:44] <zequence> hggdh: Thanks. Only ubuntu-bugs people who can do that, btw?
[17:46] <hggdh> zequence: right now I am not sure -- bdmurray will know --. I think you may need, at least, bugcontrol, or being a member of another team, like -releases
[17:46] <zequence> hggdh: Ok, thanks.
[17:47] <hggdh> (bugcontrol used to have it, but I think it got more restricted)
[17:56] <bdmurray> hggdh: bug control can nominate to a release and ubuntu-release-nominators can approve those nominations
[17:56] <bdmurray> hggdh: well and uploaders for the package
[17:56] <hggdh> bdmurray: thanks, I keep forgetting it
[17:56] <hggdh> zequence: ^
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[17:59] <Naddiseo> Could I get some help triaging bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1178000
[17:59] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1178000 in gnome-shell "Monitor on second video card doesn't display anything after login" [Medium,New]
[18:04] <zequence> hggdh: Ah
[18:15] <penguin42> Naddiseo: OK, do you understand what Owen is asking you?
[18:26] <Naddiseo> penguin42, I'm not sure. Your comment leads me to believe that I don't.
[18:27] <penguin42> Naddiseo: did you report it?
[18:27] <Naddiseo> Yes
[18:30] <penguin42> ok, so when you say the monitor doesn't display anything - is it black completely?
[18:30] <Naddiseo> Yes
[18:30] <Naddiseo> The power light indicates that it's "on"
[18:30] <Naddiseo> and not in standby mode
[18:31] <penguin42> ok, and what does xrandr say?
[18:31] <Naddiseo> in which state?
[18:32] <Naddiseo> This is it when I have it working: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5684654/
[18:32] <penguin42> when it's blank and it shouldn't be
[18:35] <Naddiseo> K, I'll be back in a sec, I have to reboot to get that.
[18:36] <penguin42> hmm, I'll be back in a bit - someone else please tell Naddiseo
[18:40] <Naddiseo> penguin42, it looks the same: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5684676/
[18:56] <penguin42> Naddiseo: OK, so it's worth adding that to the bug report
[18:57] <penguin42> Naddiseo: It's listing all 3 monitors there OK
[18:57] <Naddiseo> Yeah.
[18:57] <Naddiseo> So, probably a Meta or X bug?
[18:57] <penguin42> Naddiseo: Ah, also do that xdpyinfo he asks for
[19:00] <Naddiseo> Okay, added
[19:06] <penguin42> Naddiseo: The question as I read it is, Does it* know the 3rd monitor is there? * being X, Gnome-shell and Mesa
[19:07] <penguin42> Naddiseo: The fact the xrandr sees it means X has seen it; but could still be X leaving it blank
[19:07] <Naddiseo> yeah,
[19:07] <Naddiseo> I don't know how to proceed diagnosing which package this belongs to.
[19:09] <penguin42> personally I'd try another desktop and see if it manages it
[19:10] <Naddiseo> I tried unity, which wouldn't start and left the third monitor black as well
[19:13] <penguin42> Naddiseo: OK, as I read it he's saying the problem could be X, Mesa (that does a lot of the GL/3d/composity stuff), and gnome-shell; which is quite a spread
[19:14] <penguin42> Naddiseo: I'd try something that didn't do any compositing, KDE with it's compositing set to XRender, or xfce (which should be nice and simple)
[19:15] <Naddiseo> K, xfce it is
[19:17] <Naddiseo> Ok, back in a sec.
[19:25] <Naddiseo> Okay, how do I set up xfce for this?
[19:25] <penguin421> I'd install xubuntu-desktop and then choose it from the login screen
[19:27] <Naddiseo> Ah, that might help. I just installed "xfce4"
[19:35] <Naddiseo> I assume I'll have to use xrandr to set up the monitors the first time?
[19:35] <penguin421> or one of the GUIs
[19:36] <penguin421> I'd kind of hoped it would just line all 3 up or do something sensible with them, but don't know how smart xfce is
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[19:36] <penguin42> better
[19:36] <Naddiseo> It duplicates two of them, and my third is black
[19:37] <penguin42> ok, see if you can get it happy there
[19:44] <Naddiseo> K, I got it working with xrandr. brb
[19:47] <Naddiseo> xfce doesn't have a native way for setting monitor layout without xrandr/arandr
[19:48] <Naddiseo> I have an xrandr command set to run on login which makes the monitors good.
[19:50] <Naddiseo> What next? Should I see if the same works in gnome-shell?
[19:59] <penguin42> Naddiseo: oh I'm surprised xfce doesn't have something better
[19:59] <penguin42> Naddiseo: I'm not sure; try adding the info back to the bug and see what Owen says
[20:06] <Naddiseo> Okay, done. Thanks for your help.