[14:02] wow ba che zabani neveshte shode? [14:11] MGH: ?? [14:12] world of warcraft, ba che zaban hayii neveshte shode? [14:13] barnamenevisiye samte serveresh ba che zabani hast? [14:16] MGH: ba har zabani hata JS ham mishe [14:17] what? [14:17] js? [14:17] MGH: bayad shakheye kar moshakhas beshe ta behtarin lang ro ba tavajoh be niaz entekhab kard [14:17] MGH: java script [14:18] akhe java script ke ye zabane samte client hast, na server [14:18] lubotu3: hi [14:18] MGH: nodeJS ro search kon motevajeh mishi [14:18] MGH: hala langeh samteh server vaseh che kari mikhay / [14:19] ? [14:19] daram tahghigh mikonam [14:20] MGH: onvaneh tahghighet chie ? [14:21] behtarin zaban baraye barnamenevisiye game server ha [14:21] MGH: 100% C hast [14:22] MGH: alan behtarin engin haye game ro ham ba C minevisan [14:23] MGH: vali ageh system ro neveshti va faghat mikhay jahateh service dadaneh online be karbara 1 zanab ro pishnahad bedam un ziad fargh nemikoneh chi bashe , high performance mikhay C++ va java behtarinan [14:26] mishe yekam bishtar tozih bedi [14:27] baraye samte server, mishe az c++ estefade kard? [14:27] MGH: dar che moredi ? soalet ro vazeh va gheireh koli bepors ta batunam komak konam [14:28] JAVACODER: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=175659#175659 [14:28] MGH: baleh mishe [14:28] MGH: fekr mikoni zaban haye samteh server chiz haye ajib gharibian ?! [14:28] JAVACODER:na [14:29] JAVACODER: baraye ye bazi i ke chand hezar karbare online dare va to har mili second ham send va recive dare [14:30] JAVACODER: che zabani estefade mishe, masalan az php estefade miukonand ya python or Ruby? [14:30] JAVACODER: Or har zabane digeii? [14:31] JAVACODER: dar kol zabane entekhab shode cheghadr to performance karaii dare? [14:31] MGH: bebin shoma az 5 ta 10000000 nafar ya behtar begam N nafaro mituni ba har zabooni ke mikhay game server benevisi vali bahseh asli performanceh kareh [14:32] MGH: performance be zabaneh sadeh yani un zaban che algorithmi ro baraye kamtar estefadeh kardan az ram o cpu va manabeye server babateh N nafar eshghal mikoneh [14:32] MGH: C++ va java , makhsusan java high performance tarin remote server haro mishe bahash nevesht [14:32] JAVACODER: man ham manzoram hamine, alan lol mige az php estefade mikone, aya php vaghean in ghabeliyat va tavanaii ro dare? [14:33] MGH: alan behtarin network driven ro ba java neveshtan http://netty.io [14:33] MGH: php 1 zabanie ke be dardeh game server nemikhureh va man solution avalam nis [14:34] MGH: php bishtar be dardeh site haye ba load kam va service haye hadeaghal monaseb tareh [14:34] MGH: bahs haye enterprise java harfeh aval ro mizaneh [14:35] MGH: alan vaseh warcraft ham ba java serveresh ro code zadan [14:35] JAVACODER: Ok, damet garm [14:35] JAVACODER: python ya ruby chi? [14:35] MGH: khahesh dadash [14:35] ;) [14:36] JAVACODER: rastesh man khodam daram php ro yad migiram [14:36] JAVACODER: yeki az dostan goft boro ruby ya python yad begir [14:36] MGH: python o ruby ham khuban makhsusan ke sari mishe develop kard 1 chizi ro va performance java ro nakhahand dasht , python 1 zabaneh scriptie [14:37] MGH: php yad migiri ke game server benevisi / [14:37] ? [14:37] MGH: ageh tazeh kari boro Python yad begir az php asun tar va por karbord tareh [14:37] JAVACODER: na baba [14:37] MGH: ageh to programming ostekhun terkondi boro java yad begir [14:37] JAVACODER: man baraye tarahiye site yadesh migiram [14:38] MGH: php alan bazareh web nevisish to iran dagheh vali vaseh app nevisi dastet bastast kareh ziadi nemituni bahash anjam bedi [14:38] JAVACODER: java ro yad gereftam, ama alan khoob yadam nist [14:39] chon natonestan bahash poli dar biyaram [14:39] MGH: khub chera hamoon java ro edameh nemidi ? va dari php yad migiri /!!! [14:39] MGH: java tanha eybesh bozorgishe , [14:39] JAVACODER: akhe to iran bahash mishe che kard? [14:40] MGH: bayad kheili chiz to java yad begiri ke betuni java programmer beshi [14:40] JAVACODER: etefaghan az syntax java kheyli khosham omad [14:40] MGH: koleh sazman haye dorost o hessabi portalashun java hast [14:41] MGH: bank ha va .... koleh project haye melli o sazmanie bozorg ro ba java minevisan [14:41] JAVACODER: manzoret az portal, website hashon hast ya otomaysiyone edari? [14:41] MGH: portal tarifesh ziadeh behtareh search koni :D [14:41] bank saderat va chand taye dige ro ba asp.net neveshtand [14:41] meli ro ham fekr konam php bood [14:42] MGH: vali khub php ham khubeh va bazaresh garm tar az java hast , vali miangineh hoghogheh 1 php kar 700-800 hast vali java kar 1500 - 2500 [14:43] MGH: kheili az sazmanha daran systemeshuno be java kooch midan [14:43] http://www.armitis.com/HomePage/default.loco [14:43] MGH: pool dar uvurdan az java ham honareh khudesh ro mikhad , [14:43] damet garm, etelahate khobi dari [14:44] JAVACODER: alan esmet javacoder hast, mahlome ke to java herfeii hasti [14:45] JAVACODER: shoma ta alan che project hayii ro anjam dadid?(bebakhshid ke fozoli mikonam0 [14:48] JAVACODER: ?? [14:53] MGH: chand service sazmani neveshtam , 1 app hematology takhshiseh cancer neveshtam ke toosh mantegheh phasi dareh , buffer neveshtam , anti ddos , ziadan hamasho begam ? [14:53] MGH: man ham java kareh herfehee nistam [14:53] MGH: harki edea kard ke herfehee hast bebakhshid in harfo mizanam ama ghalat kardeh [14:54] MGH: barnameh nevisi ke edea koneh herfehee hast yani kheili bi savadeh [14:54] JAVACODER: man manzoram in bood ke cheghadr tonesti bahash pol darbiyari, razi hasti? [14:55] MGH: inghadri ke ageh alan beram mosaferateh 12 maheh hich khelali to zendegim ijad nemishe ;) [14:55] JAVACODER: Damet garm dada, chon man alan php ro yad gereftam va bahash ye cms ekhtesasi neveshtam [14:56] MGH: afarin :D omidvaram customizeh drupal o joomla o WP nabashe :P [14:56] JAVACODER: va taze daram sherkat sabt mikonam [14:57] MGH: sherkat chera sabt koni ?!! [14:57] MGH: chand saleteh ? che reshtehee dars khuni? [14:57] MGH: alan sabt kardi sherkatet ro ? [14:57] JAVACODER: az tarafe dige daram ye cms dige ba zend minevisam, va mikham yeki ghabli ro ham open sourcesh konam, kholase saret ro be dard nayaram, alan vaghean nemidonam arzesh dare ke php ro vel konam va beam soraghe ye zabane dige mesle ruby or python [14:58] MGH: tarjobeye kar to 1 sherkat ro dashti ? [14:58] MGH: aslan kolan tahala kar kardi o project tahvil dadi ? [14:58] JAVACODER: ma mohandesi narm afzar khondam, 24 salam hast [14:59] JAVACODER: na rastesh ta alan jaii kar nakardam [14:59] JAVACODER: alan ham 2 nafari darim kar mikonim [14:59] JAVACODER: man samte server va dostam samte client [15:00] MGH: eshtebaheh kheili bozorgie ke be serfeh yad gereftan php va neveshtaneh 1 cms bekhay sherkat sabt koni ! behet shadidan va baradaraneh tosie mikonam ke boro aval to bazar khakeh bazaro bokhur yani boro vaseh 1 sherkateh dg code bezan [15:01] MGH: sherkat zadan niaz be yad gereftaneh chizhaee bishtar az php dareh [15:02] MGH: az masayeleh hoghoghie gharardad gerefteh ta nahveye gereftaneh moshtari va ..... [15:02] MGH: in eshtebah ro nakon refigh [15:02] JAVACODER: rastesh sherkat ro nesfe karhash ro kardim, va be khatere emtehanate term agab oftad [15:02] JAVACODER: ta alan kolan kari anjam nadadam, ama to barnamenevisiye site dar hade mobtadi yad daram [15:02] JAVACODER: in ham customizi az hish cms i nist [15:02] JAVACODER: ama mehmariye khobi dare [15:03] MGH: dar moredeh inkeh mikhay 1 zaban yad begiri bayad begam chera ke na yad begir , zaban ha va technologhy ha va framework ha abzar haye 1 barnameh neviseh [15:04] JAVACODER: Ok, akhe samte ma kasaii sherkat zadan va daran pool dar miyaran, ke aslan barnamenevisi yad nadarand [15:04] MGH: sherkat ro stop kon boro birun kar kon harfamo gush kon bad nemibini baadeh 5 sal ke kar kardi be fekreh sherkat bioft [15:05] MGH: bazareh php hamineh dg :)) hameh bezano daro hastan , fekreh kareh code base ro to php faramoosh kon ;) [15:05] JAVACODER: midonam ke az sare refaghat va tajrobe in harf ro migi, ama jahii nist ke beram barash kar konam [15:05] MGH: python vali bazareh khubi nadareh [15:05] man alan birjand hastam [15:06] MGH: birjand !!!! unja mikhay sherkat bezani ?! [15:06] JAVACODER: are dige [15:06] MGH: akhe to un shahreh kochik kasi site be 1 sherkateh no pa sefaresh mideh ?! [15:07] JAVACODER: 1 min wait ta barat 1 address bedam [15:07] MGH: birjand bayad vaziatesh az tehran badtar bashe [15:07] JAVACODER: http://www.bhiranian.ir/ [15:08] MGH: pasho bia tehran inja php kar mikhan eyneh chi , php karo makhsusan zend karo ro hava mizanan [15:08] MGH: rasti hamin zend ro ba java code zadan inam jahateh infot goftam [15:08] JAVACODER: in sherkat ba joomla dare kar mikone, hamoon ro ham hichi yad nadare [15:09] JAVACODER: baraye har karesh dare 2-4 toman migire [15:09] MGH: un sherkat dareh kareh khubi mikoneh php yani hamin dg fekr kardi to iran kasi faratar az in sefaresh mideh !? [15:09] MGH: jomla o WP kafie [15:09] akhe baraye man ghablan pol mohem nabood [15:10] MGH: vaghti WP tamameh niaz haye moshtari ro bar taraf mikoneh dg che karie ke az base code bokhureh ?! [15:10] JAVACODER: ama alan ham pool ham yadgiri [15:10] JAVACODER: eyjan ke dast gozashti ro delam [15:11] MGH: bebin php kheili nemituneh toro erza koneh bayad langet ro avaz koni ageh mikhay chiz haye bishtari yad begiri [15:11] JAVACODER: man ham ye zaban mikham mesle php ke framework va library va document ghavii dashte bashe, ham ye zabani mesle python or java, ke hame kare bashe [15:12] JAVACODER: baraye hamiin alan sardar gom hastam [15:12] MGH: sardar gom nabash negah kon be ayandat mikhay chekar koni ?! [15:12] JAVACODER: che zabani ro shoma pishnahad mikonid? [15:12] MGH: mikhay birjand bemooni ya na ? [15:12] JAVACODER: na baba [15:12] MGH: ba un zaban mikhay pool dar biari ya mikhay khudet ro ertegha bedi [15:13] JAVACODER: man fehlan ghasde ejdevaj va chize dige ii nadaram, taze dare az reshtam va barnamenevisi khodham miyad [15:14] MGH: to tehran gondeh tarin sherkat ha ham daran az WP estefadeh mikonan kareh code base ba php 1 chizeh khandeh dari shudeh [15:14] MGH: albateh sefaresh ha 90% site haye mamoli hastan ! [15:14] MGH: ama to java 90% project hash baham fargh daran va hamishe chizi baraye yad giri dari [15:15] JAVACODER: Ok, khob kar az koja gir biyaram [15:15] MGH: vali kareh php ziadeh vali arzuneh dar avaz kareh java kameh vali besiar geruneh [15:16] JAVACODER: man java ro baraye yad giriye android khondam, va alan 1 sali mishe ke samtesh naraftam [15:16] JAVACODER: va taghriban yadam rafte [15:16] MGH: to tehran ke man har roz rooznameh ro baz mikonam koli shayad balaye 15 sherkat php kar o cms kar o ... mikhan , php karo to tehran ro hava mizanan makhsusan ke zend kar ham beshe [15:17] JAVACODER: akhe hanooz daneshgam tamoom nashode [15:17] JAVACODER: ta 1 sale dige birjand hastam [15:17] MGH: android nevisi ba java , 1 chizeh besiar sadehee hast , bia EJB , EE , SOA , SAAS , REST va inaro bekhun [15:18] MGH: pas ta un moghe ta mituni daneshet ro ziad kon zabaneh englisitam ghavi kon [15:18] JAVACODER: albate karte sarbazi daram, ok zaban ro khodam ham be fekresh bodam [15:18] philipballew: haya [15:18] JAVACODER: albate translatam bad nist(be khosos to matn haye takhasosi) [15:19] JAVACODER: khob khatm kalam aziz, kheyli hal dadi, khoda omret bede [15:20] JAVACODER: dar payan che zabani ro pishnahad midi, hamiin php ya java ya python or ruby or ........? [15:20] MGH: hich vaght ajaleh nakon koli chiz hast ke bayad yad begiri , daneshgat ke tamom shud ba tavajoh be inkeh sarbazi ham rafti biad tehran 1 pansioneh karmandi begir va inja kar kon ta kar yad begiri baadeh chand sal mituni be fekreh 1 sherkat bashi [15:20] MGH: khahesh [15:20] MGH: ajaleh nakon faghat [15:21] MGH: 1chizi mikhay ke to har scale o layeri harfeh avalo bezaneh java is best [15:21] JAVACODER: ok, damet garm aziz [15:21] MGH: nazareh man albateh 1 ki dg momkeneh begeh python behtar az java hast [15:22] MGH: khahesh dar khedmatim , esmetam nagofti ;) [15:22] JAVACODER: Very very very thankyou [15:22] mohammad hastam [15:23] JAVACODER: fehlan bye [15:23] bye now [15:23] ;) [15:23] be lucky [15:28] JAVACODER, hello [15:28] How are you? [15:28] philipballew: hi phil [15:28] philipballew: TNX [15:28] philipballew: and you ? [15:29] JAVACODER, very good [15:29] philipballew: are you try java programming ? [15:30] JAVACODER, yes, I am bad at it [15:30] philipballew: :P [15:31] philipballew: hey phil what happen in US today ? [15:32] JAVACODER, nothing much? [15:34] keykakito: are you arch user ? [15:35] JAVACODER: arch+ubuntu [15:35] keykakito: kodomeshun behtareh ? [15:35] vase man arch behtare, vali bastegi dare [15:36] keykakito: in package haye arch 1 jurian na ? [15:36] JAVACODER: system-esh ba ubuntu fargh dare [15:36] JAVACODER: vali kheyli khast nist [15:58] keykakito: mint cheturie ? emtehanesh kardi ? [16:00] JAVACODER: ta hala nasb nakardam, vali ta unjayi ke midunam hamun ubuntu-e ba package haye restricted be soorat default, va tanzimat-o narm-afzarhaye default-e mint [16:01] JAVACODER: kar bahash migan sadetar az ubuntu-e. desktop-e default-esh unity nist [16:45] JAVACODER: sharmande, ye soal dashtam. ( bahzi az afrad migam ke sorate java nesbat be c va c++ kamtar hast) [16:46] JAVACODER: va masalan nabayad baraye bazi estefade beshe, nazaret chi hastesh? [16:51] hi [16:52] is there anybody here?!! [16:52] no one?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [16:52] JAVACODER: what? [16:52] dv What? [16:53] helleo! [16:53] dv: hi man [16:53] i faced to a serious problem! [16:54] dv: what is your problem? [16:54] ... it is ralated to my external hard disk [16:54] can u help me?! [16:54] dv: more explain, plz [16:55] dv: you should explain your problem [16:55] i take it from laptop without to unmount it! [16:56] so my laoptop is not detect it [16:56] gparted is known this partition [16:56] but i can not access to it [16:57] it is a unkown file system [16:58] unknown [16:58] dv: what is file system? [16:58] dv ext4? [16:58] its format is unknwon [16:58] dv: can u speak persian? [16:58] its format is fat32 in advanced [16:59] BALE!! [16:59] baba damet garm khob ma ro ke koshti [16:59] khobb.... [16:59] mikhastam englishamo test konam! [16:59] :) [16:59] dv, ghablan mishnakhte? [17:00] motavajeh shodi? [17:00] are [17:01] ye bar keshidamesh, bedoone unmount kardan [17:01] alan ham mishnase [17:01] amma bala nemiyad [17:01] faghat gparted mishnasash [17:01] dv: khob nabayad hich moshkeli pish biyad, khob boro to disk app, bebin onja mishnasatesh [17:02] az to gparted, shomare va name partition ro negah kon chi hast? [17:02] masalan, sda7 [17:03] dv: negah kardi? [17:05] dv: agar negah kardi bego ta begam chetor ba dastor mount mountesh koni [17:07] JAVACODER: sharmande, ye soal dashtam. ( bahzi az afrad migam ke sorate java nesbat be c va c++ kamtar hast) [17:08] JAVACODER: va masalan nabayad baraye bazi estefade beshe, nazaret chi hastesh? [17:13] MGH: bebin in bahseh bazi chizeh pichidehee hast [17:14] MGH: inam dar nazar begir ke algorithmeh karit ham mohemeh to kar mituni ba java codi bezani ke az C++ sari tar bashe mituni ham codi bezani sangin tar basheh [17:14] MGH: C ++ ham hamintureh [17:15] JAVACODER: ok, injoor dar nazar begir ke ye barnamenevise herfeii bekhad code bezane [17:16] JAVACODER: cheghadr fargh mikone [17:17] MGH: vali man engineh bazi haye ziadi ro didam ke ba C++ va C code khurdan , unam be khatereh ineh ke RAM kamtari ro eshghal mikoneh va albateh agar 2 nafar ba scaleh ham taraz 1 engineh bazi ba java va C++ benevisan 100% c++ sari tar khahad bud ama man teameh ghaviee nadidam ke ba java bekhad game engine beneviseh va in dalil nemishe ke kasi hanuz chun 1 game engineh dorost hessabi ba java naneveshteh va test nazadeh yani java codn tareh [17:17] JAVACODER: ye soal dige, jsp sariitar hast ya php or ruby or python? [17:17] MGH: kasani ke to game engin developer hastan va geek ham hastan adam haye mamoliee nistan va hatman 1 chizi midunan ke ba C++ code mizanan [17:18] 100% jsp [17:18] rubby ham mituneh sari bashe ama jsp be nazareh man sari tareh [17:19] MGH: to programming bayad ofoghet ro rushan koni ke mikhay to che zaminehee kar koni [17:19] MGH: injur compare ha osoli nis [17:19] MGH: hamishe ham nabayad ro 1 zaban taasob dasht bayad bebini chi vaseh che kari monasebeh [17:19] JAVACODER: ok, baz ham damet garm [17:20] man kolan be barnamenevisiye web alaghe mand hastam, ziyad ba app hal nemikonam [17:20] MGH: kolan to kar haee ke systemi nis java hamishe sari tareh chun jaduye code byte ro dareh chun JIT dareh chun JVM dareh va .... ke baghie nadaran [17:21] MGH: bahseh hal nis alan mosalaman project haye khafan behet nakhuredeh vaghti bekhay web service haye dorost hesabi benevisi majbori service hato app koni va hameh chiz ro ro web container nabayad biari [17:21] JAVACODER: va vase hamiin 2onbale ye zaban e samte server migardam [17:22] chun over head bishtari dareh web [17:22] MGH: in zabaneh samteh server ro dg nagoo 1 vazheye base ee hast va chizeh khandeh darie [17:22] JAVACODER: damet garm aziz, yekam bishtar tozih midi [17:22] dv: hardet sokhteh ya ok hast ? [17:23] MGH: soal kon tozih bedam [17:23] agha man dis shode boodam! [17:23] MGH: dar che moredi ? [17:23] sharmande [17:23] JAVACODER: dv, rafte (log out) [17:23] nasokhte [17:23] ham linux mishnasash ham windows [17:23] dv: alan hast ke nemibinish ? [17:24] linux mige formatesh maloom nis, windows mige bayad format beshe [17:24] dv: khudaro shokr [17:24] dv: linux amareh sokhtaneh hard externalash balast makhsusan distroye suse [17:24] dv: FATET parideh [17:24] dv: chizeh mohemi rush dashti ? [17:24] JAVACODER: mitonam to a page e khososi yekam dige bahs konim [17:25] MGH: sure [17:26] MGH: notifireh radifi nadaram ageh pm dadi to private inja elam kon ke check konam [17:27] alan ye private dadam [17:30] alo [17:30] dv: jan? [17:30] seda miyad?! [17:31] dv: are begoo [17:31] MGH: to alan sedashu shenidi mage :D [17:32] JAVACODER: man fekr konam manzoresh in hast kasi matn hash ro mikhone [17:33] JAVACODER: vagarna irc ke seda nadare [17:33] :P