| MooDoo | morning | 07:34 |
|---|---|---|
| MartijnVdS | \o | 07:35 |
| SuperMatt | morning | 07:35 |
| * MartijnVdS is back home! | 07:37 | |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ | 07:37 |
| mungbean | favourite place you visited? | 07:38 |
| MartijnVdS | mungbean: Minack theatre | 07:39 |
| MartijnVdS | mungbean: see g+ for a video :) | 07:39 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | MartijnVdS: The Minack is great isn't it. Did you see a performance or just visiting? | 07:43 |
| MartijnVdS | TheOpenSourcerer: I saw Nerina Pallot there | 07:43 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Cool. I've just wandered around it before, not seen show. Always fancied seeing a bit of Shakespeare there myself. | 07:44 |
| MartijnVdS | TheOpenSourcerer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmPVS_iGK9U | 07:45 |
| MartijnVdS | dear btrfs, what the HELL are you doing? | 07:46 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Nice - not my cup tea musically but the setting is great. | 07:46 |
| MartijnVdS | (thrashing, I know, but why?) | 07:46 |
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| SuperMatt | woo, I removed tracker (and gnome-documents) and now my PC is lightning fast | 07:51 |
| MartijnVdS | I have neither installed and my PC is dog slow | 07:52 |
| * MartijnVdS blames btrfs | 07:52 | |
| MartijnVdS | and the 5400RPM disk | 07:52 |
| SuperMatt | I still haven't had a good experience with btfs | 07:58 |
| SuperMatt | but the one thing I do know is that btrfs and vms don't really work too well together | 07:59 |
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| JamesTait | Good morning all, happy Monday and happy World Metrology Day! :-D | 08:26 |
| MooDoo | lol | 08:27 |
| Myrtti | metrology? | 08:27 |
| JamesTait | Myrtti, http://www.worldmetrologyday.org/ | 08:28 |
| JamesTait | "Measuring stuff accurately", basically. | 08:29 |
| Myrtti | right | 08:29 |
| MartijnVdS | JamesTait: metric or imperial? | 08:30 |
| JamesTait | MartijnVdS, yes, probably. | 08:32 |
| JamesTait | MartijnVdS, I think, given that it's celebrating the signing of the Metre Convention, metric. | 08:33 |
| JamesTait | But that could just be a cunning ploy to confuse the unwary. | 08:33 |
| MartijnVdS | JamesTait: Good thing only the US, Burma and (in part) the UK still use it then ;) | 08:37 |
| BigRedS | I love how the UK has gone from using the 'confusing' imperial system to a more confusing mish-mash of imperial and metric | 08:38 |
| JamesTait | MartijnVdS, yeah, but we'll convert the rest eventually. ;) | 08:38 |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: I had a speed conversion sticker on my window last week | 08:39 |
| MartijnVdS | BigRedS: "50? Here? Oh wait they mean 80." | 08:39 |
| JamesTait | BigRedS, the classic example being fuel - I buy my petrol by the litre, and measure my fuel economy in miles per gallon. | 08:39 |
| MartijnVdS | JamesTait: See we do that in km/liter :) | 08:40 |
| JamesTait | MartijnVdS, I've also seen litres/100km. | 08:40 |
| JamesTait | Just to really confuse things. | 08:40 |
| MartijnVdS | but that's an easy conversion, relatively | 08:41 |
| JamesTait | Except that its an inversion of what we're used to. 50mpg is better than 40mpg, so my brain is wired to think that 20litres/100km is better than 10litres/100km. | 08:43 |
| JamesTait | Because the bigger the number in the fuel economy display, the better, right? | 08:43 |
| MartijnVdS | ah yes | 08:48 |
| MartijnVdS | My SMART runs 20.7km/l | 08:48 |
| MartijnVdS | at least, it did last week on long drives :) | 08:48 |
| BigRedS | I only know fuel consumption in miles-per-tank | 08:53 |
| MartijnVdS | I know driving to cornwall and back was not as expensive as I thought it would be ;) | 09:00 |
| Laney | why can't i find anyone who delivers newspapers around here? doesn't that happen any more? :( | 09:00 |
| dwatkins | Laney: don't the local newsagents do it? | 09:04 |
| Laney | no | 09:04 |
| Laney | i don't know of any friendly newsagents like that nearby | 09:05 |
| Laney | sainsburys, tesco, spar | 09:05 |
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| AlanBell | fuel consumption should be measured in mm^2 | 09:14 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: ml/mm | 09:15 |
| MartijnVdS | oh you mean mm³/mm? :) | 09:15 |
| AlanBell | the units cancel :) | 09:16 |
| AlanBell | 0.04831 mm^2 | 09:17 |
| AlanBell | is your 20.7km/l in mm^2 | 09:17 |
| directhex | rods/hogshead | 09:19 |
| mgdm | that's the way I likes it | 09:19 |
| AlanBell | 981600 rd/hhd then | 09:19 |
| MartijnVdS | nanocenturies! | 09:20 |
| mgdm | microfortnights! | 09:21 |
| MartijnVdS | mgdm: light-nanoseconds! | 09:21 |
| MartijnVdS | attoparsecs per microfortnights! | 09:21 |
| mgdm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFF_system | 09:21 |
| mgdm | "Another notable constant based on those units is the speed of light, known as "Strapp's Constant" (Jock "Strapp" Marshall), which is 1.8026×1012 furlongs/fortnight." | 09:22 |
| mgdm | where the 1012 is actually 10^12, clearly | 09:22 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 09:24 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 09:24 |
| AlanBell | what happens to light-leapyears? | 09:24 |
| brobostigon | morning MartijnVdS and AlanBell | 09:24 |
| AlanBell | ah, light years are based on 365.25 days obviously enough | 09:25 |
| MartijnVdS | Also, don't they use parsecs usually? | 09:26 |
| * mgdm shrugs | 09:26 | |
| * MartijnVdS listens to some more CHVRCHES.. they should really release an album soon! | 09:27 | |
| mgdm | there's 3 and a bit parsecs to a light year, so unless it makes maths simpler I'm not sure there's much difference | 09:27 |
| shauno | never thought about the 1/4 day. I long for the day my fuel consumption has to be accurate to 0.003 lightyears | 09:27 |
| mgdm | so that you can exactly predict when you have enough fuel to make it to the next service station on the hyperspace bypass? | 09:28 |
| MartijnVdS | speaking of service stations | 09:30 |
| MartijnVdS | They're almost twice as far apart as in the Netherlands | 09:31 |
| shauno | which is why you go before you go. | 09:32 |
| mgdm | I bet that's fun if you don't take that into account along with the miles/km difference | 09:32 |
| MartijnVdS | mgdm: good thing my car can go from Harwich to Minehead (Exmoor) on just over one tank ;) | 09:33 |
| mgdm | I have no idea where those places are, but it sounds good | 09:34 |
| MartijnVdS | mgdm: Near Ipswich, and near Taunton? | 09:36 |
| MartijnVdS | mgdm: also, gmaps :) | 09:37 |
| shauno | mgdm: what the rest of us know as "the south" | 09:37 |
| mgdm | shauno: heh | 09:38 |
| MartijnVdS | "The Souf" | 09:38 |
| mgdm | MartijnVdS: yeah, when I get round to it :-) I know where Ipswich is | 09:38 |
| MartijnVdS | mgdm: and Exmoor? :) | 09:38 |
| mgdm | Still dn't know about Taunton, though | 09:38 |
| mgdm | I've heard of Exmoor, don't know where it is either | 09:38 |
| mungbean | middle of nowhere. its great | 09:39 |
| shauno | Exmoor's difficult. just when I think I know what they're talking about, I realise I'm thinking of dartmoor | 09:39 |
| mgdm | shauno: when I used to live in Lewis I once went to a conference calling itself 'PHP North West', where I had to travel 300 miles south to get to it | 09:39 |
| mungbean | holidayed in exmoor last yr | 09:39 |
| mungbean | can recommend a nice place | 09:39 |
| mgdm | err, 478 miles south, apparently. \o/ | 09:41 |
| shauno | I can't imagine there's much you don't have to go south for from there | 09:41 |
| mungbean | i will be holidaying on portland island this year, thats pretty far south | 09:43 |
| shauno | I've never lived much further north than glasgow-ish (gareloch/loch long). anything past that is just a wilderness that we feed coachloads of bluehairs to | 09:43 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: I went to Minack theatre (near land's end), which was quite good :) | 09:44 |
| mgdm | shauno: true, but it didn't stop me winding them up about their name | 09:44 |
| mgdm | shauno: and, oi :P | 09:44 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 10:06 |
| MartijnVdS | \o | 10:08 |
| shauno | so today's theme is vpns killing kittens :/ | 10:31 |
| MartijnVdS | death to kittens! | 10:34 |
| shauno | I'm so close to a working configuration. except it turns my wifi off the moment the server gives me the thumbs up. perplexed. | 10:37 |
| shauno | completely OT here, but .. grrrrrrr | 10:37 |
| diplo | morning all | 10:49 |
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| wintellect | hey andre | 11:55 |
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| davmor2 | shauno = "kittens" lets see how he bands around the term kill kittens now :D | 12:47 |
| shauno | I dunno, this grumble grumble is taking a pretty good shot at me too | 12:51 |
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| cptcel | hey everyone.. i just installed ubuntu, worked fine for about 24 hours, now i'm not sure what i did but unity doesn't load no matter what i do | 13:59 |
| cptcel | i have a feeling it's because i tried to switch to nvidia drivers but now i can't switch back - graphical driver switcher fails to apply changes and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does nothing | 14:00 |
| bigcalm | Good afternoon peeps :) | 14:48 |
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| davmor2 | bigcalm: BOO! | 15:05 |
| bigcalm | Oh my | 15:06 |
| bigcalm | What's new? | 15:06 |
| SuperMatt | a baby | 15:07 |
| SuperMatt | relatively so | 15:07 |
| ubuntuGod | hi all | 15:10 |
| bigcalm | SuperMatt: yours? | 15:15 |
| SuperMatt | no, I was just suggesting that babies are relatively new | 15:16 |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: i think youi'll find babies have been around for millions of years ;) | 15:18 |
| bigcalm | What he said | 15:19 |
| SuperMatt | yes, but babies what are currently babies are quite new | 15:20 |
| bigcalm | :D | 15:20 |
| mungbean | mine is 8 weeks old: http://ubuntuone.com/0cImRHlVUg1Ri2ejsUYyvd | 15:21 |
| knightwise | hey everyone | 16:41 |
| knightwise | have you guys seen the interview with stallman on Unity ? | 16:41 |
| brobostigon | hi knightwise | 16:43 |
| AlanBell | is there a new one knightwise? | 16:48 |
| bigcalm | I wonder if popey ever got his train tickets | 16:55 |
| davmor2 | knightwise: is that the stallman monologue on how evil Ubuntu is and it's full of spyware? | 16:58 |
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| AlanBell | think I might try out this recipe later http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1505633/?utm_expid=13353178-7 | 17:45 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: marmite on bread? | 17:45 |
| MartijnVdS | ah toast even! | 17:46 |
| AlanBell | yeah, marmite on bread wouldn't count as "cooking" | 17:46 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: unless you made your own bread and/or marmite | 17:46 |
| * MartijnVdS just had a "Broeders" beer, made by my brothers! :) | 17:47 | |
| MartijnVdS | Yay South of England ;) https://plus.google.com/photos/100189567362844794281/albums/5877491002319853233 | 17:50 |
| MartijnVdS | Except 3 streets from popey's home, where I hit a curb ;) | 17:50 |
| assymetric | Ubuntu is so facking terrible. | 18:14 |
| assymetric | Ubuntu is so facking terrible. | 18:14 |
| MartijnVdS | !language | 18:15 |
| lubotu3 | Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. | 18:15 |
| assymetric | Why teh fak is it so bloated | 18:15 |
| MartijnVdS | !ops | 18:15 |
| lubotu3 | Help! dgjones, Myrtti, Mez, AlanBell, popey, Gary, Seeker`, Daviey, PriceChild or X3N | 18:15 |
| Myrtti | assymetric: oh come on now | 18:15 |
| MartijnVdS | assymetric: Do you have any specific questions? | 18:15 |
| Myrtti | tadah! | 18:16 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ | 18:16 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Stupid Question for the evening... I want to mount my S3 phone (Stock Samsung Android 4.1.2) on my machine so I can do some file management. Apart from Shotwell, everything else I try shows me just the top level completely empty directories in the S3 file system | 18:19 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I'm on 12.04 on this machine. | 18:19 |
| MartijnVdS | TheOpenSourcerer: you may need to install the new ptp layer (it's a PPA I think) | 18:20 |
| MartijnVdS | also, set the phone from PTP to MTP, which is "multi"media not just photos | 18:20 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I've set it to MTP and installed MTPFS | 18:20 |
| MartijnVdS | TheOpenSourcerer: mtpfs isn't the right thing.. you need the new & improved mtp libraries | 18:21 |
| MartijnVdS | it got fixed in 12.10 or 13.04 I think | 18:21 |
| MartijnVdS | and there is a backport to 12.04 | 18:21 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | You mean this? http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html | 18:21 |
| MartijnVdS | yes! | 18:21 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Thanks installing now. | 18:22 |
| AlanBell | are stupidly cheap things like this reflashable with ubuntu? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Android-TV-Dongle-Box-Stick-Smart-TV-Player-Mini-PC-wifi-HDMI-with-2-Host-USB-/261210498123?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Internet_TV_Media_Streamers&hash=item3cd15be44b | 18:23 |
| penguin42 | AlanBell: Ish | 18:23 |
| penguin42 | AlanBell: The freeness of the kernels varies and you don't necessarily get much choice - so you're stuck on one kernel for some models; some models also have very broken flash code that can only be unbricked from Windows | 18:25 |
| MartijnVdS | even the cheap chinese crap ones? | 18:25 |
| penguin42 | AlanBell: The spec on that seems a bit odd as well, Allwinner A10 is Cortex A8 not the better A9 | 18:25 |
| penguin42 | MartijnVdS: Especially | 18:26 |
| MartijnVdS | penguin42: *shudder* | 18:26 |
| penguin42 | The problem is it's very CPU specific; so A10 lots of people are working with, rk3066 has two levels of reflash where the deepest one is windows only to reflash (and I've bricked mine and don't have Windows) | 18:26 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Nope - Still an empty list. :-D | 18:27 |
| MartijnVdS | TheOpenSourcerer: does it work in other OSes? | 18:27 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I don't have any *other* OSes | 18:28 |
| MartijnVdS | My Galaxy Nexus shows "Internal filesystem" in the root, then all the media directories and some app stuff further down | 18:28 |
| MartijnVdS | (using nautilus, not an mtpfs mount) | 18:28 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Huzaah!!! Needed to log out to load the new gvfs I think. I can now see the file system | 18:41 |
| MartijnVdS | *\o/* *\o/* *\o/* *\o/* *\o/* | 18:41 |
| MartijnVdS | TheOpenSourcerer: yay! | 18:41 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | TY MartijnVdS | 18:41 |
| diplo | evening all | 18:49 |
| MartijnVdS | \o diplo | 18:49 |
| diplo | How are we all ? | 18:49 |
| MartijnVdS | Bit sleepy | 18:50 |
| MartijnVdS | didn't sleep very well on the boat last night | 18:50 |
| diplo | :( | 18:56 |
| diplo | I've not slept properly in 2+ months | 18:57 |
| MartijnVdS | diplo: Kid? :) | 18:57 |
| diplo | I have 2, but nope | 18:57 |
| diplo | ill :/ | 18:57 |
| diplo | Been going on for 5+ months now | 18:57 |
| MartijnVdS | diplo: mungbean was complaining about that | 18:57 |
| diplo | They think i have a thing called Horners syndrome, basically have a permanent migraine/pain in my left arm | 18:58 |
| MartijnVdS | ouch | 18:59 |
| diplo | Maybe a damaged nerve, but can't find it.. had MRI's and CT's amongst 20+ other tests probably | 19:00 |
| MartijnVdS | that sounds very not good | 19:00 |
| diplo | Nope :/ I could deal with the pain / problems, whats getting me more is 3-5weeks between appointments! So sloooooow | 19:01 |
| penguin42 | diplo: I'm glad I've got med insurance for that type of thing | 19:02 |
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| diplo | yeah, I'd prefer to pay Private and not NHS at times. Other times NHS can be great | 19:07 |
| BLOOMBERG_ | UBUNTU is garbage | 19:31 |
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| Myrtti | well at least this channel was saved from his outbursts... | 20:15 |
| diplo | :P | 21:05 |
| Jez | Hello. | 21:55 |
| Darael | Greetings. | 21:55 |
| Jez | Where might I find further support with regard to Auto-Apt, please? | 21:58 |
| Jez | Specifically getting it install packages. It keeps getting stuck trying to install them. Then I made the mistake of running it under sudo and couldn't turn it off. | 21:59 |
| Jez | Or exit from the Root account in the Terminal either. | 21:59 |
| Darael | Auto-apt never did work for me the way I expected... I can't help myself, but I suggest #ubuntu as the main Ubuntu support channel. | 22:06 |
| Darael | Jez: ^ - sorry for the delay in my response. | 22:06 |
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