[00:00] <raven> can anyone help me? im trying to make java my default application for jars but its not in the list
[00:00] <ubukou> raven: command blank available?
[00:00] <usr13> If you have a new HP laptop with 4 partitions, 1) System (199Mb) 2) Win8  (910Gb)  3) Recovery (20G) 4) HP_Tools (120Mb).  How would we install Ubuntu on this sytem, (leaving Win8 intact)?
[00:01] <raven> i dont know what that is
[00:01] <ubukou> raven i mean a blank to fill in a command ..
[00:01] <bazhang> ubukou, thats for ##hardware
[00:02] <raven> i dont understand
[00:02] <ubukou> raven, i mean in the "open with" dialog
[00:02] <raven> yeah
[00:02] <raven> theres a list of program sbut none are java
[00:02] <PrototypeX29A> gnome-alsamixer segfaults ^^ http://pastebin.com/nkA6sB6b
[00:02] <raven> i have java and i can right click, open with java 7 but its not with the programs to make it default
[00:03] <Dr_willis> raven,  its best to not just 'double click' on jar files..   you should make a proper .desktop launcher for them. or a bash script. (or so ive always read)
[00:04] <raven> yeah but
[00:04] <nimbiotics> hello evry1. How do I make a linux executable file in a NTFS partition executable?
[00:04] <seronis> raven: im in xfce not nautilus, but dont you have an 'open with other application'  option ?
[00:04] <raven> for the prgrom im running i need .jar files to be defaulted to java because it launches more .jar files
[00:05] <raven> its a minecraft launcher
[00:05] <Dr_willis> nimbiotics,  you can mount ntfs/vfat with the proper options to make EVERY file on the filesystem executable.. which is an annoyance..
[00:05] <oldude67> hi, my fiance' is out of the town taking care of her mom threw cancer treatments. what is the easiest thing to set up for video chat on ubuntu 13.04?
[00:05] <kristenbb> so can someone please help me to decrypt my home folder, given that I know the correct password ?
[00:05] <cnf> oldude67: skype
[00:05] <Dr_willis> minecraft SPECIFICALLY i recall running best with some extra options. and came with a script i thought to launch it..
[00:05] <Dr_willis> but i dont do minecraft any more. ;)
[00:06] <seronis> thats only if you need to adjust the memory constraints or to keep a console window open to view bug msgs
[00:06] <Dr_willis> make a script that does  'java whatebver.jar'        and launch that..
[00:06] <oldude67> cnf, is it in the repos or do i have to manually do it?
[00:06] <raven> its not vanilla minecraft its a custom launcher
[00:06] <cnf> you know, i don't know...
[00:06] <cnf> i run it from my phone
[00:06] <raven> it would be fine if i could make the .jar assosiation with java, thats what all the tutorials say to do
[00:06] <raven> but i cant
[00:06] <seronis> raven: and when you right click on the jar dont you have an option to choose what to launch it with ?
[00:06] <raven> yes
[00:06] <johnjohn101> need help with grub.. i have 13.04 on one partition and 12.04 on another.  so far 13.04 is the defualt and i need to make it 12.04
[00:06] <seronis> click it
[00:06] <raven> i can launch it with java
[00:07] <cnf> oldude67: http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/downloading/?type=ubuntu64 it seems
[00:07] <Dr_willis> johnjohn101,  you mean the default os to run?
[00:07] <nimbiotics> Dr_willis: is that the only solution? how do I do that?
[00:07] <seronis> and in the window that comes up letting you choose a program make sure you select to  'use this as default'
[00:07] <raven> but once im in the launcher it cant launch the game because its a seperate .jar file which it trys to run and it opens archve manage
[00:07] <raven> YES i can do that but java isnt there in the list!
[00:07] <seronis> raven:  you need to set the executable bit on the launcher.jar
[00:07] <raven> i cant make it default in that menu
[00:07] <raven> omg
[00:08] <johnjohn101> Dr_willis: yes, on power up no keystrokes boot up to 12.04.  eventually want to remove 13.04 32 bit and reinstall 64 bit
[00:08] <oldude67> thanks cnf, ill check it out. havent done web chat in forever.
[00:08] <seronis> you -also- need to set the executable bit for one jar to be allowed to launch another
[00:08] <seronis> its a jvm restriction
[00:08] <Dr_willis> nimbiotics,  use the mount command and mount it with the right umask/dmask options i recall.. or the fstab file. I  find every file on a windows drive being executable Much more annoying then having to use 'wine /path/to/whatever.exe'
[00:08] <seronis> not 'just' setup the default app
[00:08] <raven>  i dont know how to write a script
[00:09] <Dr_willis> johnjohn101,  thats weird.. but you could boot to 12.04 somehow..  and run update-grub on it..  the /etc/grub/default file has an entry for the default 'item' to use.
[00:09] <Dr_willis> #!/bin/bash
[00:09] <Dr_willis> java  foo.jar
[00:09] <Dr_willis> thats the core of the script raven
[00:09] <seronis> raven:  what options show up when you right click on the launcher.jar
[00:09] <anthony> i am new to linux and ubuntu, i am looking for something similar to mirc so i can tile the windows
[00:09] <anthony> any help appreciated
[00:10] <raven> im new to linux.. i honastly have no idea what your saying :(
[00:10] <Dr_willis> time to learn some bash basics then.
[00:10] <Dr_willis> !abs
[00:10] <nimbiotics> Dr_willis: the problem is that the file is NOT a windows executable but a linux executable file that needs to be in a NTFS partition ...
[00:10] <raven> oh god
[00:10] <Dr_willis> check that url on bash scripting..
[00:10] <Dr_willis> the script will be composed of 2 lines.. like what i gave.
[00:10] <Dr_willis> Or follow the other guys advice and see if you can get it going that way
[00:11] <Dr_willis> nimbiotics,  thats very very weird to keep a linux binary on a ntfs.
[00:11] <seronis> raven: right click on your launcher jar file.   what shows up ?
[00:11] <lars> I can't install Kubuntu 12.04
[00:11] <raven> launch with archive manager and launch with java 7
[00:12] <nimbiotics> it is, but cant do otherwise ...
[00:12] <seronis> and...
[00:12] <raven> but when i click open with over to set the default, its not in the list
[00:12] <otak_> anthony: I don't know what mirc is, but I'm tiling irssi in terminator
[00:12] <nimbiotics> mirc sux
[00:12] <anthony> i will try it thanks otak
[00:12] <lars> I give up
[00:13] <anthony> nim then what would you suggest?
[00:13] <anthony> since mirc sux
[00:13] <Genyar> Lars is Genyar now
[00:13] <nimbiotics> chatzilla?
[00:13] <th0r> anthony, both xchat and pidgin are popular
[00:13] <krux> xchat
[00:13] <nimbiotics> xhat sux++
[00:13] <krux> irssi for terminal
[00:13] <nimbiotics> xchat*
[00:13] <anthony> i am on xchat but i can only see one channel at a time
[00:14] <Lammarck> hi there, need some newbie help for a uninstall
[00:14] <ubukou> abengees wiki
[00:14] <Genyar> My installation of Kubuntu was working up until I got to the "Prepare Partitions" stage
[00:14] <nimbiotics> long time i dnt chat from terminal, will give it a try
[00:14] <th0r> anthony, then you have it configured wrong...I presently have three channels running
[00:14] <kristenbb> How can I copy a directory and all its contents from one folder to another, using the command line ?
[00:14] <anthony> ok will check my settings again
[00:15] <seronis> raven: when you choose 'open with' does your screen look anything like   http://i.imgur.com/l4tv2EL.jpg
[00:15] <Lammarck> cant uninstall skype, apt-get dont work, software center too
[00:15] <otak_> kristenbb: cp -r or cp -a
[00:16] <raven> yes but it doesnt have the java'
[00:16] <Genyar> Are there Kubuntu experts here?
[00:16] <kristenbb> otak_:  will this really copy everything ? Such as subdirectories, system files, hidden files, symbolic or hard links, ... ?
[00:16] <raven> it also doesnt have the custom commad option
[00:16] <seronis> in the list itself, do you see an option to select something custom?
[00:16] <Genyar> I need help installing Kubuntu 12.04
[00:16] <seronis> even if its not a checkable box
[00:16] <otak_> I'd have to read the man page to check details on symlinks and hidden files
[00:17] <Genyar> I've tried everything, there is no way to bypass the "Prepare Partitions" stage of the installation
[00:17] <Genyar> I've been working on it for two days
[00:18] <kristenbb> otak_: I really want to copy everything from one directory to another.
[00:18] <usr13> If you have a new HP laptop with 4 partitions, 1) System (199Mb) 2) Win8  (910Gb)  3) Recovery (20G) 4) HP_Tools (120Mb).  How would we install Linux on this laptop, (leaving Win8 intact)?  Anyone solved a problem like this before?  (Besides that, it is UEFI.)
[00:18] <raven> no
[00:18] <bekks> Genyar: Whats the actual problem you are facing?
[00:19] <Genyar> The installation will not recognize any of my devices for "Prepare Partitions"
[00:20] <nimbiotics> rephrasing: How can I make executable a linux executable file that happens to exist in a NTFS partition
[00:20] <bekks> nimbiotics: You cant. You have to mount the NTFS filesystem in a way so you can execute files on it.
[00:20] <woutersimons> usr13 ..yes use gparted boot cd to resize the partition to create space ... then install ubuntu as you normally would
[00:21] <otak_> kristenbb: it depends, for example, if you want to recreate the symlink or copy the data it points to, iirc that's called dereferencing
[00:21] <Genyar> When I try to continue the installation, the computer says, "No root file system is defined."
[00:21] <nimbiotics> Dr_willis, bekks: Thanks
[00:22] <woutersimons> usr13: i would reduce the win8 part by about 20-30 gig
[00:22] <Genyar> "Please correct this from the partitioning menu" it says
[00:22] <PuppyAruba> Tc guys
[00:23] <Genyar> But there's no way to create a root file system without any partitions
[00:23] <bekks> Genyar: Then you have to define a mountpoint where / is mounted to.
[00:23] <Genyar> How do I do that?
[00:23] <Genyar> It says there's no root
[00:23] <bekks> Genyar: In the menu you are in, you can create new filesystems, and assign mountpoints.
[00:24] <nimbiotics> bekks: mount has the showexec option for FAT but I see nothing like that for NTFS. Can you give me a hint, please?
[00:24] <bekks> nimbiotics: umask=000 as mount option.
[00:24] <Genyar> It won't let me create anything: which menu are you talking about?
[00:25] <Dr_willis> nimbiotics,  you want to be using the ntfs-3g filesystem also. the ntfs-3g homepage has lots of examples
[00:25] <bekks> Genyar: Can you paste a screenshot of what you are seeing on your screen currently?
[00:25] <Genyar> I'm not in installation mode now
[00:26] <nimbiotics> Dr_willis, bekks: Thanks a BUNCH again!
[00:26] <bekks> Genyar: You have to be in the installation mode for installing...
[00:27] <Genyar> that's another problem, I tried "Try" instead of "install" and could not even open an IRC account to chat here
[00:27] <bekks> Genyar: Why not?
[00:28] <Genyar> It would not accept my password when I used this account for IRC Quassel
[00:28] <usr13> woutersimons: It will do that?
[00:28] <bekks> Genyar: You could use an unregistered account too.
[00:28] <usr13> woutersimons: (Even though there are already 4 primary partitions?)
[00:28] <Genyar> Also the process for the file protocol died unexpectedly in live test mode for 12.04
[00:29] <Genyar> And when I tried to open the Konsole in the test mode, my monitor went dark and my computer seemed to freeze
[00:29] <bekks> Genyar: You have to decide wether you want to install or try it...
[00:29] <Genyar> I want to install it: that's what I've been trying to do for two days now
[00:30] <pvp101sing> Hey I was wondering if anyone want to join me on twitter
[00:30] <fatllip> What ever happened to installing ubuntu on top of windows
[00:30] <Genyar> The gurus here told me to use "test" mode to try to get tech support to find out why it would not recognize my devices
[00:30] <Dr_willis> fatllip,  if you mean 'WUBI' its still there.. but not reccomended
[00:31] <bekks> Genyar: Then whats the output of "sudo fdisk -l" then?
[00:31] <bazhang> !wubi | fatllip
[00:31] <Tex_Nick> !offtopic > pvp101sing
[00:31] <Dr_willis> and its alongside (inside windows)
[00:31] <Genyar> I posted on the board
[00:31] <bekks> Genyar: On which board?
[00:32] <fatllip> Ge
[00:32] <Genyar> Let me find the links.....
[00:32] <Genyar> I'm lars
[00:33] <Genyar> http://pastebin.com/z2DysLh4
[00:33] <bekks> Genyar: Devices are there. Now back to the installation. :)
[00:33] <usr13> How about deleting the first 199Mb System Partition?
[00:33] <Genyar> http://pastebin.com/sP8qbVg4
[00:33] <bekks> usr13: It will render your windows 8 in ruins.
[00:34] <Genyar> Yeah, my devices are here now, but when I try to install from my jump drive, that's when my devices disappear
[00:34] <bekks> Genyar: And we need screenshots of what you can see. :)
[00:34] <mojtaba> Hi, I changed my user to standard, and now I cannot change it back to administrator. Does anybody know what should I do?
[00:35] <jrib> mojtaba: boot into recovery mode and issue "adduser your_username_here sudo"
[00:35] <Genyar> that's impossible to do in installation mode
[00:35] <jrib> mojtaba: (assuming all you did was remove your user from the sudo group)
[00:35] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  you  have no other admin users?
[00:36] <Genyar> Have you ever installed Kubuntu 12.04?
[00:36] <mojtaba> jrib: Could you please explain more?
[00:36] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: No. :(
[00:36] <bekks> Genyar: Sure.
[00:36] <bekks> Genyar: But I never used a GUI. :>
[00:36] <jrib> mojtaba: you can reach recovery mode by holding shift during boot and then selecting recovery mode from the grub menu
[00:36] <Genyar> It looks the same as everyone else sees
[00:36] <Genyar> the installatin works well
[00:37] <Genyar> until I reach Prepare Partitions
[00:37] <mojtaba> jrib: And after that I should type: adduser mojtaba sudo
[00:37] <bekks> Genyar: So it finishes successfully?
[00:37] <mojtaba> is it correct?
[00:37] <jrib> mojtaba: yes, assuming all you did was remove your user from the sudo group
[00:37] <mojtaba> jrib: I did it through graphical user accounts
[00:37] <Genyar> that's where the devices disappear
[00:37] <mojtaba> and change my user to standard
[00:38] <jrib> mojtaba: you can check what groups your user is in by issuing the « groups » command
[00:38] <bekks> Genyar: Does the installation successfully finish?
[00:38] <bekks> Genyar: prior rebooting, after installing kubuntu?
[00:38] <Genyar> No, it can't go past Prepare Partitions because there are no partitions
[00:38] <mojtaba> jrib: There is no sudo
[00:39] <bekks> Genyar: You just said something different.
[00:39] <Genyar> the installatin works but it can't go past Prepare Partitions
[00:39] <Genyar> it always stops at the same point:  "Prepare Partitions"
[00:39] <bekks> Genyar: Then we need to see what/how you are installing it.
[00:39] <jrib> mojtaba: then proceed with the directions I gave to add your user back to the sudo group
[00:40] <mojtaba> jrib: I will test it. Thank you very much.
[00:40] <Genyar> It shows the headings...."Device     Type     Mount Point     Format?     Size     Used"
[00:40] <Genyar> but there is nothing below the headings
[00:40] <fatllip> Wubi is not supported
[00:40] <bekks> Genyar: We need to see what you configured there before.
[00:41] <munderwo-work> Hi all. I've got a server that has got to the point where there isnt enough room to install the latest kernel on boot. and apt-get is stuck because it cant install it, but wont let me do anything without installing the latest kernel. Is there a dnager in going into the boot directory and moving some of the old kernel files, just to free up enough room to be able to remove some?
[00:41] <blob> Hi, how can I reset my auto resolution in xrandr ?? It is currently set to one that my monitor does not support .. although it should
[00:41] <Dr_willis> fatllip,  wubi is being phased out.. i suggest using virtualbox if you must run ubuntu in windows
[00:41] <cslucano> iḿ ahaving problems installing ubuntu as third os on a macbookpro 9,2
[00:41] <bekks> Genyar: If you do not configure anything, the installation cant succeed successfully.
[00:42] <Genyar> Also, it lets me highlight the different choices....."New Partition Table     Add     Change     Delete".....but there is no devices, no parttions to manipulate
[00:42] <blob> actually could someone explain me what the nombers mean after the resolution ? Example : 1024x768       60.0 +   43.5
[00:42] <cslucano> it's a guide to multiple oses installing?
[00:43] <Genyar> I didn't get that far into the installation to be able to configure anything
[00:43] <raven> noARHGsf
[00:43] <raven> I CANT DO THIS
[00:43] <bekks> raven: We can read lowercase too.
[00:44] <Genyar> What do you mean by configure, anyway?  What do I configure, and where do I do that?
[00:44] <raven> why is it so hard to make java default??
[00:44] <bekks> Genyar: In that window which you are seeing.
[00:44] <raven> nothing else uses jar files on my pc
[00:44] <Vivekananda> Hi everyone. I have terminator installed in lubuntu 12.04. I dont know how to change the highlight color for the shown output. It is pretty dark green now. my terminal emulator is Terminator
[00:45] <raven> does anyone know how to make java the default application for .jar files
[00:45] <harris> ho
[00:45] <harris> hi
[00:45] <bekks> Genyar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall
[00:45] <Genyar> That "Prepare Partitions" stage of the installation is also known as Disk Setup, but there are no configuration options anywhere
[00:45] <blob> just use java -jar andyourfile.jar :P
[00:45] <Dr_willis> Vivekananda,  terminator  is actualy a wraper around gnome-terminal. so try toying with the gnome-terminal settings from gnome-terminal also
[00:46] <raven> no that jar opens other jars so i need it to be assosiated
[00:46] <blob> or do a bash link that does the same and start always the bash script
[00:47] <bekks> raven: All you need to do is to run: "java -jar my.jar".
[00:47] <Genyar> Bekks, "Try Ubuntu" doesn't work very well: it's really slow, and hardly anything works
[00:48] <bekks> Genyar: It doesnt need to be fast. ;)
[00:49] <Genyar> Would it be easier to install if I deleted a bunch of my files to make more room for the installation, even though it's going to format my drive anyway?
[00:49] <raven> i got it to work
[00:49] <raven> i found a tutorial on how to change it in the consol
[00:49] <raven> its working now :P
[00:49] <blob> the jar opens another jar ? shouldn't this be proggramed into the jar ? or couldn't you just use a switch ? donno about that
[00:49] <blob> well post the solution
[00:49] <bekks> Genyar: No.
[00:49] <raven> http://askubuntu.com/questions/224463/how-do-i-reenable-opening-jar-files-by-double-clocking-on-them
[00:49] <Dr_willis> blob,  thats what i was thinking also. ;)
[00:49] <raven> this is what i did
[00:50] <bekks> Genyar: Why dont you just follow the linked article to the word?
[00:50] <Vivekananda> Dr_willis: howdy :). I am trying to toy with that but the only visible settings I see in lubuntu are the expected, foreground and background and nothing about any
[00:50] <Vivekananda> highlights !
[00:51] <Genyar> I used your link, Bek
[00:51] <mojtaba> jrib: I just got error 1
[00:52] <mojtaba> I could not add my user to sudo group. :(
[00:52] <Genyar> Unfortunately, that link you sent me was not very helpful, bekks
[00:53] <Genyar> which word, Bekks?
[00:53] <bekks> Genyar: I am waiting for a detailed description on what happens where exactly, when you just follow that article-
[00:53] <blob> so any1 wanna solve my linux puzzle ?
[00:54] <Genyar> To the word, right, yeah, I've already done that several times
[00:54] <Genyar> I always get stuck in the same place over and over, and I've tried to change the variables by booting off the DVD alone, booting off the jump drive alone, and by combining the two
[00:55] <Genyar> None of these things makes any difference
[00:55] <bekks> Genyar: Please describe what happens where exactly. What do you select where? What do you enter where? What do you click where? We dont know it and we cant guess it.
[00:55] <Genyar> The installation always gets stuck at "Prepare Partitions"
[00:56] <mojtaba> I changed my only user to standard and now I can not change it to administrator. Does anybody know what should I do?
[00:56] <Genyar> Ok, I'll describe exactly what I see.....
[00:56] <bekks> Genyar: Please describe the entire installation process, for letting us know what you do where.
[00:56] <mojtaba> I re-booted in recovery mode and run the command: adduser myusername sudo
[00:56] <Genyar> I'm using the 64 version of Kubuntu 12.04.2
[00:56] <mojtaba> But that did not work and gave me error 1
[00:57] <Genyar> I created a bootable USB jump drive with the 64 version of Kubuntu 12.04.2
[00:57] <Genyar> LTS
[00:57] <bekks> Genyar: Please put it all together in a complete text, preferrably in a pastebin.
[00:58] <Genyar> I also burned it onto a DVD with only limited success on Windows using Nero
[00:58] <bazhang> !enter | Genyar
[00:58] <blob> mojtaba "I changed my only user to standard" how ?
[00:58] <mojtaba> blob: from the GUI, user accounts
[00:58] <bekks> Genyar: And start describing what happens when you start the installation. The color of the wall behind the desk where you computer stand near to when the light is switched on is irrelevant for the installation process :)
[00:59] <Genyar> Well, to type out everything that happened into one text file will probably take about 20 mins
[00:59] <bekks> Genyar: Start with "After the installer starts:"
[01:00] <mojtaba> Please help
[01:00] <blob> mojtaba: what system do you have ? did you remove the admin group from the acc aswell ?
[01:00] <bazhang> mojtaba, you removed yourself from the sudoers group?
[01:01] <Genyar> The installation I did looked good, and exactly the same as what I saw on the YouTube Tutorial
[01:01] <mojtaba> blob: ubuntu 13.04. no, I just changed my account to standard user.
[01:01] <mojtaba> bazhang: Yes. :(
[01:01] <bekks> Genyar: So please start your text, in pastebin ;)
[01:01] <Genyar> You want me to link you to the YouTube Tutorial, because what happeened to that guru is exactly what happened to me when I installed
[01:02] <bekks> Genyar: No. I want that text please.
[01:04] <Genyar> I think it would be a waste of your time to tell you that I had no problems with the installation up until Partitions
[01:04] <blob> mojtaba: lets see if you really did this ... type in sudo -i
[01:04] <bekks> Genyar: Well, if you dont want to give is the information you asked for, I cant help you any further. Good luck then.
[01:04] <Genyar> I chose install 3rd party software, dowload updates, and proceeded without any problems until I got to Partitions
[01:04] <mojtaba> blob: it says mojtaba is not in the sudoers files
[01:05] <blob> mojtaba: ohh boy ... hmmm
[01:05] <Genyar> Ok, thanks for your help, I'm going to install Windows instead
[01:06] <bekks> Genyar: Good luck. You'll need it.
[01:06] <mojtaba> blob: :( what should I do?
[01:07] <roddy> anybody know how to logo on to the NickServ server?
[01:07] <blob> mojtaba: I kind never was i that situatiuon ... you cant edit the sudoers file without root rights
[01:07] <roddy> log on*
[01:08] <mojtaba> blob: I tried to add my user to this group via recovery mode
[01:08] <mojtaba> But I could not.
[01:08] <mojtaba> adduser mojtaba sudo
[01:08] <mojtaba> It gave me error number 1
[01:08] <blob> mojtaba: nahh that wont work
[01:09] <blob> mojtaba: reed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers you need to edit the sudoers file and add in there you user acc
[01:10] <mojtaba> blob: Can I edit that file with no root permission?
[01:10] <roddy> anybody know how to log on to the NickServ server? please help
[01:10] <roddy> i dont know what the command is
[01:11] <blob> mojtaba: but actually if you have root rights in  recovery mod you just can give the goup there tto you user
[01:12] <blob> mojtaba: well do you have root rights in recovery mode ?? you should I think
[01:12] <bekks> roddy: nickserv is no server. type: "/msg nickserv help"
[01:12] <roddy> bekks: then what is that?4
[01:12] <mojtaba> blob: I think. (actually I am a newbie.)
[01:13] <mojtaba> blob: Do you know what should I do exactly?
[01:14] <blob> mojtaba: nahh im not that experienced myself gotto google this a little
[01:14] <mojtaba> Is there anybody there who can help me?
[01:15] <karlmhaines> OK, Question: I've gone through quite a bit of trouble to get Ubuntu 13.04 installed on this laptop with a Pentium M processor because stock ubuntu kernel's no longer come with non-PAE support. My system is finally up and working pretty well, and now my first set of updates has shown up. Two parts of the updates has linux kernel image and headers (6 packages in all) that I unchecked so that a new kernel would NOT get installed and mess
[01:16] <th0r> mojtaba, first, boot into recovery mode and add yourself to the 'adm' group. See if that fixes the problem. If not, you will have to use visudo to add yourself to the sudoers file
[01:16] <blob> mojtaba: sudo usermod -a -G sudo youracc
[01:16] <mojtaba> th0r: Could you please explain the process?
[01:17] <th0r> mojtaba, you added yourself to the sudo group earlier, right? Do the same thing, but add yourself to the adm group this time.
[01:17] <usr13> Which partition are the EFI files located on a Win8 machine?  The first one?
[01:17] <usr13> (Called System.)
[01:17] <mojtaba> th0r: Thanks.
[01:17] <mojtaba> blob: Thanks
[01:18] <th0r> mojtaba, adduser mojtaba adm (in recovery mode)
[01:19] <mojtaba> Thanks all
[01:19] <rypervenche> karlmhaines: What is your exact question?
[01:19] <blob> how can I reset my auto resolution in xrandr ?? It is currently set to one that my monitor does not support .. although it should
[01:19] <mojtaba> I will test to see what will happen
[01:19] <th0r> mojtaba, if that doesn't work, come back and I will talk you through the sudoers file
[01:19] <blob> actually could someone explain me what the nombers mean after the resolution ? Example : 1024x768       60.0 +   43.5
[01:20] <Dr_willis> blob,  i imagine one is the refresh rate
[01:22] <blob> Dr_willis: thought about that too, but what is the + and thge * doing and the secound was also some wanky frequency ... how do I find out what my display supports in which resolution ?
[01:22] <new-on-raring> what is wrong with the raring kernel? there is no HDMI audio through nvidia-current and also it seems to be unstable after fresh installation and system upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/5682304/
[01:23] <Dr_willis> new-on-raring,  hdmi audio is a known issue. I used the 3.9 mainstream kernel to get mine working. a fix is supposed to be in the works. (got info on the 3.9 kenrel  at askubuntu.com)
[01:26] <she_dyed> so whats going on
[01:26] <mojtaba> th0r: Hi, Actually after running your command it said: I am already in that group
[01:27] <mojtaba> blob: Hi, after running your command it said: cannot lock /etc/passwd
[01:27] <she_dyed> blob you might be better off googling modelines, to get wehat the numbers mean
[01:27] <th0r> mojtaba, and you are in sudo, so you should be able to use sudo to run commands
[01:27] <mojtaba> Do you know what should I do now?
[01:27] <mojtaba> th0r: No, I am not in sudo
[01:28] <th0r> mojtaba, I thought you had added yourself to sudo earlier. In recovery mode the same command, adduser mojtaba sudo
[01:28] <mojtaba> th0r: when I run groups command, there is no sudo for my account
[01:28] <blob> in recovery mode you are the root user you dont need to type sudo befor your commands
[01:28] <new-on-raring> Dr_willis: thanks for your info. Are there any plans known for having a fix on the default kernel for raring (I suppose there are many nvidia users affected by this)?
[01:28] <john38> Anybody else having that annoying return to login prompt after first few minutes of bootup
[01:28] <mojtaba> th0r: It just gave me error 1
[01:28] <mojtaba> I could not
[01:28] <BillJobs> I was thinking about installing a clean install of Ubuntu on an old Acer machine that I have with Windows 8 on it. Which version of Ubuntu should I go with and should I go 32 bit since it only has a dual core with 3gb of ram?
[01:28] <Dr_willis> new-on-raring,  it affects more then nvidia.. and  the bug reports sites say a fix is in the works. i dident want to wait
[01:29] <john38> BillJobs, i m pretty sure the newest ubuntu 12.04 will work on it
[01:29] <mojtaba> th0r: Actually I just changed my account to standard user from administrator.
[01:30] <john38> BillJobs, the 32 bit should work just fine
[01:30] <th0r> mojtaba, then we will try the sudoers file. Again in recovery mode, the command is visudo. It will put you into an editor to modify the sudoers file. Find the line in the User Privilege Spec section that starts with root, and create an exact copy of it on the next line, with your username instead of 'root'
[01:30] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  and all that did was alter the 'groups' the user is in.
[01:31] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: Yes. :(
[01:31] <mojtaba> th0r: Just this?
[01:31] <BillJobs> Ok thanks I have that version installed in hyper-v. It will be nice to finally have it running smoothly on an actual machine
[01:31] <mojtaba> th0r: what should I type exactly?
[01:31] <th0r> mojtaba, it is a workaround since, for some reason, you cannot add yourself to the sudo group
[01:32] <john38> Why does ubuntu 12.04 revert back to login prompt after first few minutes of bootup
[01:32] <Dr_willis> 'of bootup'  means what? you mean it goes back to the CONSOLE after displaying the LIGHTDM login screen?
[01:32] <john38> so many updates but they havent fixed that bug yet
[01:33] <blob> mojtaba: accname    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[01:33] <mojtaba> blob: should I type this?
[01:33] <john38> back to login prompt
[01:33] <john38> is there a special key combination that im pressing or something
[01:33] <john38> or is it a bug
[01:34] <raven> can anyone help me uninstall a program
[01:34] <Dr_willis> john38,  or X is crashing.. alt-ctrl-f7 should go to the X login if its running
[01:34] <Dr_willis> raven,  and how did you install it? Give us details...
[01:34] <raven> i have skype right, but when i click it it wont run.. andi tryed to install it again but its not helping so i want to just remove it and try again
[01:34] <Dr_willis> !skyp
[01:34] <blob> mojtaba: type in visudo, type in this: "accname    ALL=(ALL) ALL"  below the "root    ALL=(ALL) ALL"
[01:34] <Dr_willis> !skype
[01:35] <raven> i downloaded the nstall file from the skype website and it installed through the software manager
[01:35] <john38> Dr_willis, thats what i mean it crashes then i have to enter password to log back into desktop
[01:35] <Dr_willis> may be a known bug with skype..  remove/reinstalling the same thing to try to 'fix' things is a windows  mindset/method.
[01:35] <john38> Dr_willis, but thats been happening quite a lot
[01:35] <Dr_willis> john38,  you mean at the LIGHTDM login screen.. you login and it goes back to LIGHTDM?
[01:36] <surfdaemon> raven, check in terminal to see if it's segfaulting
[01:36] <john38> Dr_willis, yes
[01:36] <raven> i dont know what that means lol but im jsut doing the things in the link that dr willis said
[01:36] <mojtaba> blob: for the first part, I should just type visudo or I should add the path to the file in front of it?
[01:36] <blob> mojtaba: just visudo
[01:37] <blob> mojtaba: then a editor will open
[01:37] <mojtaba> blob: Thanks, I will check it and come back
[01:37] <john38> Dr_willis, no when i bootup into ubuntu after a few  minutes of usage it crashes then goes back to lightdm
[01:37] <raven> thank you dr _willis that worked!
[01:38] <Dr_willis> john38,  sounds like X is crashing for some reason then.
[01:38] <Dr_willis> john38,  try a differnt window manager/desktop see if it stops or still does it..
[01:38] <john38> Dr_willis, thats been happening since i first installed precise
[01:39] <john38> Dr_willis, diffrent windows manager what do you mean?
[01:40] <Dr_willis> john38,  lxde, xfce. openbox. jwm.
[01:40] <mdel> in ubuntu/debian, is there some standard way programs can enable/disable configuration scripts in the conventional conf.d/ directory?
[01:40] <john38> Dr_willis, oh
[01:40] <john38> Dr_willis, what does precise use gnome or kde
[01:40] <blob> kde: kdm
[01:41] <blob> dosnt it use unity ?
[01:41] <mdel> unity, yes
[01:41] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu uses UNITY which runs on top of Gnome3
[01:41] <Dr_willis> Kubuntu uses KDE
[01:41] <john38> yeah thats right unity
[01:41] <Dr_willis> you can install any of the desktops on any of the releases
[01:41] <john38> stupid me
[01:41] <Dr_willis> or install them ALL ;)
[01:41] <SonikkuAmericaX> Dr_willis, blob: (A curious thing, Unity being a Qt frontend for GNOME)
[01:41] <john38> im just curious is anybody else having that problem
[01:41] <fictive> anyone have experience with bluez and/or bdaddr?
[01:42] <mdel> fictive, if by experience, you mean issues, then yes ;)
[01:42] <Dr_willis> john38,  if the X video drivers are crashing.. or X is crashing..  it would be closeing out X.
[01:42] <SonikkuAmericaX> (Or just Xing X)
[01:42] <mdel> fictive, my issues were with broken packages though, not a bug
[01:42] <john38> Dr_willis, i do get aritifacts sometiems
[01:43] <john38> Dr_willis, that could be it Nvidia drivers
[01:43] <Dr_willis> SonikkuAmericaX,  last i looked that was still a planned change..  Ubuntu One i think uses qt. and unity is to be going to qtml or somting..  I dont pay much aggention to the  blogs lately
[01:43] <Dr_willis> john38,  and what drivers are you using.
[01:43] <fictive> mdel: hehe, well. I was trying to change the MAC of my integrated BT with btaddr in vmware guest ubuntu 12.04 LTS, but it doesn't seem to work (error message "unsupported manufacturer", the manufacturer id when running bdaddr is set to "not assigned (6502)")
[01:44] <john38> Dr_willis, Nvidia proprietary drivers
[01:44] <mojtaba> th0r: blob: It says Readonly file system. and did not allow me to modify the file
[01:44] <mojtaba> Do you know what should I do now?
[01:44] <SonikkuAmericaX> Dr_willis: If I'm not mistaken Unity 8 will be a mix of Qt and QML...
[01:44] <AbbasX8> is there a way to create a bootable ubuntu installation on external hdd?
[01:44] <AbbasX8> im on windows 8 and have given up on all the hassle needed to get ubuntu running side by side with win8
[01:45] <Dr_willis> SonikkuAmericaX,  yea. whataver that means exactly. ;)  its all buzzwords to me. I dont code or develop.
[01:45] <fictive> mdel: so I tried booting up with a live cd, only to find that bdaddr was nowhere to be found.. and apparently it didn't want to work with me when compiling with the --test-flag. error was systemd init dir not found
[01:45] <kristenbb> How can I install ubuntu 13.04 and restore my current ubuntu set up ?
[01:45] <blob> mojtaba: hmm try to mount it with wright permissions ... but i dont know the commands right now
[01:45] <Dr_willis> AbbasX8,  you can make a bootable usb flash.. then install to a external HD if you wanted. - or just use ubuntu in virtialbox
[01:45] <SonikkuAmericaX> Dr_willis: HTML : Hypertext markup language :: QML : Qt markup language
[01:45] <fictive> mdel: I was thinking perhaps a vmware guest os didn't have direct access to the bt device as it is shared via windows
[01:46] <Dr_willis> SonikkuAmericaX,  and thats just more buzzwords. :) i figured the ML in the term was somthing to do with xml.. but how it really is going to affect the end users (like me) is  what i dont really get. heh.
[01:47] <SonikkuAmericaX> Dr_willis: Leave that to the people in UDS. :)
[01:47] <AbbasX8> Dr_willis , virtualBox i tried but when i play videos in VLC the images flash a lot. i intend to do VLC contribution
[01:47] <AbbasX8> i think the flashing video issue will be fixed with a non virtual Machine ubuntu
[01:48] <mdel> fictive, vmware?
[01:48] <AbbasX8> Dr_willis i tried with a usb bootable ubuntu installation disc, it doesnt play well with windows 8
[01:48] <Mikicacarica> http://beac9b24.theseblogs.com
[01:48] <blob> mojtaba: post 6 and 7 in here https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/cannot-edit-fstab-in-recovery-mode-filesystem-is-read-only-540195/
[01:48] <fictive> AbbasX8: make a bootable usb drive and install to a separate partition
[01:48] <mdel> fictive, i use virtualbox, and I know the non-free edition cannot access the bt hardware
[01:48] <AbbasX8> fictive this windows 8 cam preinstalled with a signle 1tb partition
[01:48] <Dr_willis> I thought the recovery mode menus had an item to 'remount / as rw'
[01:49] <AbbasX8> onw i can't shrink it , after so many defrag tries. because of prolly some unmovable files at end of c drive
[01:49] <Dr_willis> AbbasX8,  thers more then likely several partions on the HD you are not seeing.
[01:49] <AbbasX8> windows says i can only shrink it by 700mb when i have 150gb free
[01:49] <fictive> AbbasX8: then you're probably better off just reinstalling the whole thing, probably a lot of bloatware on that installation :p
[01:49] <Dr_willis> AbbasX8,  gparted from the live cd  may let you resize it
[01:49] <AbbasX8> Dr_willis , there are. a backup drive with windows 8 setup and dell stuff
[01:50] <Dr_willis> AbbasX8,  what to watch out for is if you have 4 Primary partions.. that can be a problem if you want to make more primaries.
[01:50] <fictive> mdel: hmm. yeah that's what I thought
[01:50] <Dr_willis> Unless the HD is using GPT (i think)
[01:50] <kristenbb> How can I install ubuntu 13.04 and restore my current ubuntu set up ?
[01:50] <fictive> mdel: anyway, I can't find a single page on the internet explaining where/how to get bdaddr working (I have no idea how it ended up on my guest os)
[01:50] <mdel> kristenbb, if you go to install a new version, it should ask you to retain the user data
[01:50] <Dr_willis> kristenbb,  what do you mean by retore current setup?
[01:50] <AbbasX8> Dr_willis when i tried installaing ubuntu on external hdd from bootable usb flash dirve, it kept saying no root partition or osmething
[01:50] <AbbasX8> eitherway,, im sure ubuntu will break win8 boot process
[01:51] <AbbasX8> so i just want to install it off the usb flash drive to the usb hdd
[01:51] <Dr_willis> AbbasX8,  ive ran from eternal usb hd and external USB flash drives for ages.. its doable. just slower
[01:51] <Dr_willis> I make a usb install flash.. and boot that and install to the usb HD.
[01:52] <mojtaba> blob: I am reviewing your link.
[01:52] <mojtaba> Thanks
[01:52] <blob> for portabel usb this tool is superb: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[01:53] <new-on-raring> I have kernel oops problems on a freshly installed and updated raring x64 system: can someone give me a hint what is wrong with my system ???  dmesg goes like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5682359/
[01:54] <kristenbb> Dr_willis: I mean just upgrade ubuntu and keep everything else as is.
[01:54] <AbbasX8> blob does that allow running live cd only? or it'll allow me to install a bootable ubuntu installation
[01:55] <AbbasX8> tha tis full fledged and limited to the usb hdd
[01:55] <Dr_willis> kristenbb,  a normal system upgrade. or release upgrade should not affect your users home files
[01:55] <kristenbb> mdel: My computer is messed up, I can't do that, though I have access to all files. which ones should I keep or copy, and how ?
[01:55] <kristenbb> Dr_willis: ^
[01:55] <blob> AbbasX8: you can install your linux from that too
[01:55] <mdel> kristenbb, what do you mean messed up?
[01:55] <_rogue_>  HexChat: 2.9.5 ** OS: Linux 3.2.0-38-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "precise" 12.04 ** CPU: 4 x AMD Phenom(tm) 9950 Quad-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 1.30GHz ** RAM: Physical: 7.8GB, 82.8% free ** Disk: Total: 76.9GB, 79.1% free ** VGA: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV730XT [Radeon HD 4670] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Expres
[01:55] <_rogue_> s Gigabit Ethernet controller ** Uptime: 3h 7m 53s **
[01:56] <kristenbb> mdel: I mean I can't log in.
[01:56] <kristenbb> I have access to all files through a live cd though.
[01:56] <mojtaba> blob: should I type this: mount -o remount,rw /
[01:56] <mdel> kristenbb, if you are only concerned about your files and most user preferences, you can backup your home directory /home/<username>
[01:56] <mojtaba> will this command mount the root permanently in rw mode?
[01:56] <kristenbb> mdel: I am concerned about everything :). Is there anything else ?
[01:57] <mdel> kristenbb, there is no way I can say that for sure
[01:57] <mdel> totally depend on where you put things :)
[01:57] <blob> mojtaba: not 100% sure about that one but it wont hurt if it fails
[01:57] <kristenbb> well assuming I relied on the system to store things for me ?
[01:58] <Dr_willis> when in doubt - make backups
[01:58] <blob> mojtaba: could be that you have to type mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1
[01:58] <kristenbb> Dr_willis: a back up of what though ?
[01:59] <Dr_willis> kristenbb,  whats imporntant to you
[01:59] <Dr_willis> You shoud allready have them made.. ;)
[01:59] <mojtaba> blob: I will check that too.
[01:59] <kristenbb> Dr_willis: I have no idea what's important to me, I just want it to be as it was before that log in issue.
[02:00] <m1chael> im trying to install xubuntu to a usb drive (from a usb drive)... during installation i choose the usb drive i want to install grub to, and i select the unformatted "free space" 32gb usb drive... i click install, and i receieve an error about how i have not defined any swap space partition.. i'm confused... i thought this was supposed to just "work"
[02:00] <Dr_willis> I dont know anything about your login issue. but if theres imporntant files you are worried about.. BACK them UP..
[02:00] <Dr_willis> If you dont know whats imporntant.. i guess nothing is that imporntant then
[02:00] <kristenbb> Dr_willis: how can I make sure all software I had will be thre again ?
[02:00] <Dr_willis> kristenbb,  software from the repos is easy to reinstall..
[02:00] <harris> can you go to go to http://db.tt/huZfKHd2 and sign up for dropbox and download the application
[02:01] <Dr_willis> you can make a list of it via the !clone directions
[02:01] <kristenbb> Dr_willis: how about the preferences of these software ?
[02:01] <Dr_willis> 'what apps i have installed' is one of the least imporntant things to me.
[02:01] <Dr_willis> kristenbb,  user stuff is in the users HOME. thts all thats imporntant to me.. and even then. i can start from a clean desktop and have my system back to how i like it - in about 10 min.
[02:03] <kristenbb> Dr_willis: so I can just install a fresh ubuntu, delete all the home folder, and copy the old home into the now empty one ?
[02:03] <Dr_willis> a new install's home will be rather empty
[02:03] <kristenbb> how about the list of all software ?
[02:03] <Dr_willis> If you kept your home on its own partion, you could just mount that partion to /home/ and readd the user.. and  it would all be there
[02:04] <Dr_willis> !clone
[02:04] <Dr_willis> list of installesd software is not really worth worrying about
[02:04] <Dr_willis> You install what you need. :) how much junk have you installed that you dont really use/
[02:04] <nevyn> dpkg --get-selections is hardly difficult.
[02:05] <kristenbb> when I want to run something, I don't want to lose 1 hour downloading it, installing it and customizing it. I just want to use it. so I'd like to set all my software once and for all.
[02:06] <mdel> kristenbb, do you have the install CD?
[02:06] <kristenbb> yes
[02:06] <Dr_willis> 1 hr downloading? what in the world are you installing?
[02:06] <mdel> put it in the slot
[02:06] <mdel> and reboot
[02:06] <nevyn> openoffice ?
[02:06] <Dr_willis> on a clean install. you WILL have to reinstall it all.
[02:06] <mdel> the installer will give you the option to keep your home directory
[02:06] <mojtaba> blob: Thank you very much. It fixed the problem
[02:06] <mojtaba> th0r: Thanks man
[02:07] <mojtaba> The only question is that, should I remount the root partition to read-only again? or is it mounted read-only?
[02:07] <mojtaba> How can I check that?
[02:07] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  only reason for it to be Read only - is if you are going to fsck it..
[02:07] <kristenbb> for example, where are the mouse and keyboard options stored ?
[02:07] <Dr_willis> which is a common task from the recovery console
[02:07] <mdel> kristenbb, that is your best option - anything else you would have had to explicitly do yourself, and you would know about
[02:08] <Dr_willis> kristenbb,  user settings are in their Home.
[02:08] <mdel> ^
[02:08] <Dr_willis> system wide settings are in /etc/ or other system dirs
[02:08] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: how can I check if it is read-only now or not?
[02:08] <kristenbb> so maybe I need to copy this too ?
[02:08] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  the mount command.
[02:08] <mdel> kristenbb, have you changed it?
[02:08] <Dr_willis> takes all of what 10 sec? to change mouse and keybosd settings?
[02:08] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: could you please explain more?
[02:09] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  look at the output of the mount command
[02:09] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  thers no need to remount it READ only - unles syou are fscking the filesystem
[02:09] <kristenbb> Dr_willis: this is just an example, but there are thousands of little things like that that I wouldn't want to redo, nor maybe would I know how to.
[02:09] <kristenbb> mdel: I don't remember, I've been using my system for quite a while
[02:09] <Dr_willis> kristenbb,  again.. user defined settings are in their home..
[02:09] <Dr_willis> kristenbb,  you keep their home.. all the settings stay.
[02:09] <kristenbb> you just said they could be in /etc too.
[02:10] <new-on-raring>  I have kernel oops problems on a freshly installed and updated raring x64 system: can someone give me a hint what is wrong with my system ???  dmesg goes like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5682359/
[02:10] <Dr_willis> OLD settings can cause issues with new releases
[02:10] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: Actually because I mount it in recovery mode in rw mode. I want to make sure if it is still in rw mode or just read-only
[02:10] <Dr_willis> kristenbb,  SYSTEM WIDE settings are in /etc/ and i doubt if a users mouse speed.. is a system wide setting
[02:10] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  see if you can write to it perhaps? or again.. look at the mount command output. to see how / is mounted
[02:10] <mdel> kristenbb, the bigger issue is that you dont know
[02:11] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: could you please take a look at it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5682396/
[02:11] <mdel> how can we say for sure if you cant?
[02:11] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  first line.. shows it rw
[02:11] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  you could jhave just tried to make a file on / and found out..
[02:11] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: How can I remount it in read-only?
[02:12] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  WHY do you think you need to?
[02:12] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: Because at first it was read-only, I think.
[02:12] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  so?
[02:12] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  that was beause it was in RECOVERY mode
[02:12] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  if you did your fix.. then reboot and see if it works
[02:13] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: I see, Thank you very much
[02:13] <raven> dr_willis wine is telling em i need mesa-util but when i try to install from the software manager it wont download, its only 30kb
[02:14] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: originally is it read-only or in rw mode?
[02:14] <mojtaba> I mean when I install the OS for the first time?
[02:14] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  it dosent matter...  you had to put it in RW mode to apply the changes.. now you did that change.. now reboot back to normal and see if it works..
[02:15] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  recovery mode mounts / to be READ ONLY - because its safer.
[02:15] <Dr_willis> for recovery
[02:15] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: You mean if I reboot the computer it will become read-only?
[02:15] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  NO it will not.. now reboot the bloody thing and get it over with
[02:15] <Dr_willis> UNLESS you once again.. select RECOVERY mode
[02:15] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: Ok, do not worry
[02:15] <mojtaba> calm down man. :)
[02:16] <mojtaba> I am learning
[02:16] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: Thank you very much for your help
[02:16] <Dr_willis> you have been asking the same thing for 30 min that you could have just reoboted and seen how it worked. ;P
[02:17] <she_dyed> do it for the love of god man
[02:22] <she_dyed> it should turn out well
[02:28] <Dr_willis> seems like its taking him an awfully long time to reboot.. ;P
[02:29] <arcripex> Hello, i need helo my Ubuntu 13.04 after updates and restart wallpaper cannot change just showing a white background
[02:30] <crunchbang> hello
[02:30] <Aww> Hello
[02:31] <crunchbang> hows ubuntu?
[02:31] <Aww> Its alright
[02:31] <crunchbang> i prefer crunchbang
[02:32] <OerHeks> no you don't :-)
[02:33] <Dr_willis> You perfer TrollBang
[02:34] <Dr_willis> arcripex,  so you mean to say the ONLY thing its showing is a white background? no panels?
[02:36] <arcripex> Dr-_willis panels are showing wallpaper cannot change its just white background
[02:36] <Dr_willis> thats weird.
[02:37] <Dr_willis> common thing to check for is any files in .config that are owned by root when they shouldent be..
[02:37] <Dr_willis> or any other files in your home. owned by root.
[02:37] <arcripex> let me upload
[02:37] <Dr_willis> also see if a newly made user has the same issue. if so. that points to a system issue.
[02:37] <arcripex> screenshot
[02:37] <arcripex> i made new user still the same
[02:38] <acovrig> Something happened to unity: I appear to be running w/out a WM, any ideas as to why?
[02:38] <arcripex> Dr.willis see http://postimg.org/image/c8a3ne18h/ ;/
[02:38] <echoe> unity decided that it was so bad that you'd be better off without it :D
[02:39] <acovrig> echoe: I installed icewm and ran icewm from a terminal and it works fine...
[02:40] <Dr_willis> compiz can crash  and leave you without a wm.
[02:40] <acovrig> If I run unity in the terminal, I get "dconf-WARNING **: failed to commit changes to dconf: Could not connect: Connection refused" is that my problem?
[02:40] <acovrig> Dr_willis: is there a 'safemode' for compiz?
[02:40] <Dr_willis> dconf is part of the gnome settings stuff.
[02:40] <Dr_willis> acovrig,  not that ive noticed.
[02:41] <acovrig> when running compiz --debug I get  refusing to manage window 0x2400090
[02:42] <echoe> maybe gnome is just having issues
[02:42] <echoe> are you able to load up anything based in gnome? maybe try cinnamon?
[02:43] <Dr_willis> installing cinnamon just to test out whats going on.. is.. err.. horriable. ;)
[02:43] <Dr_willis> it sounds like the gnome setting services are not running. but ive not had to mess with them in ages
[02:44] <acovrig> When I get to the login screen I don't have the option to select my WM (as if I don't have one installed)...
[02:44] <Tony_Stark> acovrig: maybe you should drop to a lower runlevel and check out you wm, like gdm, lightdm, etc
[02:45] <Dr_willis> acovrig,  thats weird. double check the 'ubuntu-desktop' package is instgalled.
[02:45] <arcripex> Dr_willis any help?
[02:45] <acovrig> Dr_willis: ubuntu-desktop is 'ii' (by dpkg -l)
[02:46] <Dr_willis> acovrig,  try apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to double check.  i cant think of anything else off hand.  Unless theres some deeper issue with the dconf subsystem
[02:46] <echoe> Dr_willis, it is but I am a very blunt tester lol. >.>
[02:46]  * Dr_willis gets confused easially. :)
[02:46] <acovrig> Dr_willis: it says its alread installed; cinnamon gives me a black screen with a cursor...
[02:47] <acovrig> I wonder if this is because I am booted directly into ubuntu (as opposed to via rEFIt (as I was when I installed) because rEFIt isn't working ATM)
[02:47] <Dr_willis> acovrig,  installing cinnamon can break things from what i hear. ive never used it.
[02:47]  * Dr_willis tends to stick to the defaults.
[02:48] <acovrig> me too
[02:48] <echoe> installing anything can break things! hmph
[02:48] <Tony_Stark> how about apt-get install --fix-missing?
[02:48] <acovrig> echoe: yea, I installed bumblebee to attempt to improve power management, and had to re-instal the OS to get out of low graphics mode...
[02:48] <Dr_willis> cinnamon is not in the default repos.. and not  really supported here.. so  i cant really offer much in cinammon.
[02:48] <acovrig> Tony_Stark: nothing
[02:49] <echoe> oh wow optimus linux support!@
[02:49] <Tony_Stark> umm....ment apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --fix-missing.  Might help
[02:50] <acovrig> I am running ubuntu 13.04 on a MacBook Pro 9,2 (or 3, don't remember) and think I'll install 12.04 LTS instead using the UEFI guide on the ubuntu site (so I don't have to use rEFIt with a hybrid MBR/GPT)
[02:50] <Tony_Stark> Oh, well, worth a shot.  Cinnamon is probably your culprit.  I have broken the gui before by forcing things.
[02:50] <echoe> they only installed cinnamon after I think.
[02:51] <echoe> I was trying to think of another desktop that uses gnome
[02:51] <Greygan> ok guys. I have a strange problem. I loaded the nvidia drivers for my video card, and now have no side or top menu bars. I have managed to change my log in settings to allow me to load gnome but that is the only way I get menus.
[02:51] <acovrig> yes, I only installed cinnamon to (shot at the dark) test, compiz was already not working-yet IceWM does work...
[02:51] <Tony_Stark> acovrig: I found 13.04 a bit buggy.  I like the LTS versions esp. 12.04.  Very stable
[02:51] <echoe> I think their gnome is having issues. ... but would like ... what does dmesg say? i have almost no ubuntu experience, it's all in fedora, so i'd probably have to poke around or something to figure stuff out
[02:52] <Greygan> sorry didnt mean to interrupt. when you get time.
[02:53] <acovrig> echoe: running compiz doesn't do anything to dmesg...
[02:55] <seronis> xscreensaver supposedly can take an ID of the window you want it to draw in (as compared to full screen) by using the  -window argument.
[02:55] <acovrig> when I open firefox, I get an error: No D-BUS daemon running, why?
[02:55] <seronis> i got my window ID (for desktop) using xwininfo but its not accepting that id
[02:55] <seronis> anyone more experienced ?
[02:56] <Greygan> Oh yeah I am in Ubuntu 13.
[02:59] <Greygan> any ideas or should i just reload ubuntu?
[03:05] <hulu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1179367
[03:05] <hulu> who can help me
[03:07] <frizianz> exit
[03:07] <acovrig> and I get connection refused when running eog...
[03:08] <onitaL> hello, is there a Kdiff3 equivalent in gnome?
[03:09] <acovrig> yet sudo eog seems to work...
[03:09] <Dr_willis> running gui apps via sudo instead of gksudo can cause issues..
[03:10] <acovrig> Could the permissions have changed for a socket that is keeping dbus stuff from working as a normal user?
[03:10] <Dr_willis> such as CONFIG files in the users home getttig made where they are owned by root.. so the user can then not change them
[03:10] <acovrig> Dr_willis: I agree, but I think it's reasonably safe to run eog once to test an idea
[03:10] <Dr_willis> examine your home directroy files for anything owned by root
[03:10] <Dr_willis> Your issues could have been caused by using sudo SOMEGUIAPP in the past
[03:11] <acovrig> Dr_willis: I presume the main file/dir in question would be the .dbus folder in ~/ becuase everything in ~/.dbus is chomd 700,chown me:me
[03:12] <umib0zu> hey all. I was told a few weeks ago if my /boot folder is full and preventing me from updating, I can use a cleaning program to clean it out. Any idea as to which program that is again?
[03:13] <Greygan> any idea how to restore my menu bars and close/minimize buttons? they dissapeared after installing nvidia drivers from noobslab
[03:13] <Dr_willis> umib0zu,  askubuntu.com had some info on how to remove old kernels.
[03:14] <Dr_willis> umib0zu,  that would be what to do.. if your /boot/ is on its own partition
[03:14] <acovrig> Dr_willis: the only thing in ~ owned by root is .gvfs
[03:14] <Dr_willis> acovrig,  thats normal for .gvfs i think
[03:16] <umib0zu> Dr_willis, so I can't just delete everything in the /boot folder right?
[03:17] <Dr_willis> umib0zu,  that will make your system unbootable....
[03:17] <Dr_willis> umib0zu,  you DO have /boot/ on its own partiion? check what  'mount' and 'df' say about it
[03:17] <acovrig> Dr_willis: interesting: I have a second, functioning system and .gvfs doesn't exist...
[03:18] <Dr_willis> .gvfs is used by gnome for its special smb:// and other special 'virtual' filesystems
[03:18] <onitaL> hello, is there a Kdiff3 equivalent in gnome?
[03:18] <Dr_willis> onitaL,  tried searching in the software center for diff guis?
[03:18] <Dr_willis> You can run kde apps on gnome if you want to
[03:18] <acovrig> Dr_willis: could it be a stale file in ~/.dbus (should I delete my .dbus folder and restart lightdm)?
[03:19] <onitaL> yeah, I can run kde apps, but I don't want my Vbox image to grow with kdelibs
[03:19] <Dr_willis> acovrig,  perhaps just rename it and restart X
[03:19] <umib0zu> Dr_willis I have no idea. the installation ran as default but I have an encrypted home folder
[03:20] <umib0zu> df say my /dev/sda2 is 88% full and it says its mounted on /boot
[03:20] <Dr_willis> umib0zu,  so its not 'full' but what is the size of your /boot/ partition?
[03:21] <umib0zu> 240 MBs
[03:21] <umib0zu> Dr_willis ^^
[03:21] <Dr_willis> umib0zu,  thats very very tiny for a /boot/ id say.
[03:21] <acovrig> Dr_willis: and to restart X, I restart my login manager or literally kill X then startx?
[03:21] <Dr_willis> remove any old kernels you dont use.
[03:21] <onitaL> aha, meld!
[03:22] <Dr_willis> acovrig,  sudo service lightdm restart
[03:22] <umib0zu> lol hey default setup. I'm guessing you can set this up in the partition section of installs right?
[03:22] <Dr_willis> umib0zu,  the default installer does NOT setup a /boot/ partition
[03:22] <Dr_willis> theres not a lot of need for a seperate /boot/ for most systems these days
[03:23] <Dr_willis> each kernel takes up a few 100mb last i looked. bt im not sure how much of that is in /boot/ vs other places on the system
[03:23] <acovrig> Dr_willis: what abut LVM?
[03:23] <Dr_willis> i dont use lvm. so no idea on it
[03:23] <umib0zu> Dr_willis nice. so I guess the first question is how to tell which kernels you use and not. second how do you set it up during the install? this is for future headache mitigation
[03:24] <Dr_willis> umib0zu,  dont use /boot/ on its own partition.. then it wont be an issue
[03:24] <Dr_willis> unless you hae some special case where you do need a /boot/
[03:24] <Dr_willis> askubuntu.com has several hits on how to clean out old kernels
[03:25] <umib0zu> Dr_willis nice. ok thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[03:26] <Dr_willis> i use a /boot/ thats like 2+GB in size.. because i keep ISO files on there. i set up grub2 to boot the iso files for special cases
[03:28] <acovrig> Dr_willis: I seems to ended up restarting; moving .dbus to dbus didn't fix it
[03:28] <umib0zu> Dr_willis, so by the way, I'm totally new to this. What is this folder anyways and what are these kernels for? I'm guessing if I update I get new ones but old ones aren't deleted?
[03:28] <Dr_willis> system keeps old ones in case the new kernels have issues.. always keep at least one old working kernel
[03:29] <Dr_willis> im still not sure how you managed to make a /boot/ partion without knowing more about it. ;)
[03:29] <acovrig> from what I read if u use LVM, you have to put /boot in a separate partition
[03:32] <Dr_willis> ive learned its best to keep things simple
[03:32] <Dr_willis> ;)
[03:32] <umib0zu> Dr_willis I seriously don't. I've never had this issue in the 7 or so years I've been using ubuntu. I'm using 12.10 and anything beyond the normal system install on usb stick I don't think I setup
[03:32] <Dr_willis> you have been using ubuntu for 7 years and never noticed what /boot/ was for? :)
[03:33] <umib0zu> Dr_willis nope
[03:33]  * acovrig *sigh* wow
[03:33] <Dr_willis> shows how desktop/user friendly it is becoming i guess
[03:33] <umib0zu> Dr_willis haha yeah I'm one of those windows implants from high school when I got tired of viruses
[03:34] <umib0zu> but I'm happy to be told what this is/does. I've always heard about kernels but I have no idea what they do, why they're in this folder, etc.
[03:38] <n-iCe> how to share internet? hotspot? no adhoc
[03:38] <Dr_willis> !ics
[03:39] <Dr_willis> i recall not all wifi card drivers can do ad-hoc. but ive never really tried it
[03:39] <n-iCe> Dr_willis: that creates ad-hoc
[03:39] <n-iCe> I don't want ad-hoc
[03:40] <n-iCe> Since Android does not support it
[03:42] <Dr_willis> I think some android deivces can. but not all.
[03:42] <Dr_willis> you want to turn the pc into a wireless router?
[03:43] <seronis> ok got my issue solved
[03:44] <seronis> xscreensaver itself no longer supports the -window-id argument but the individual screensavers themselves do
[03:44] <seronis> now i have 'maze' as a wallpaper
[03:44] <seronis> =-)
[03:44] <Dr_willis> wow.. ;)
[03:44] <Dr_willis> live wallpaper.
[03:44] <Dr_willis> i had xearth as a wallpaper for gdm login screen once.. ages ago
[03:46] <seronis> well i've been using xubuntu for a little under 3 weeks now and i can ALMOST do everything on it that i did on Win7.  this trick effectively makes 'windowblinds' worthless
[03:46] <Dr_willis> err.. live wallpaper  and worthless.. ;)
[03:46] <Dr_willis> sort of go together.
[03:46] <seronis> aesthetics have worth =-)
[03:46] <Dr_willis> I rarely even see my wallpaper..
[03:47] <seronis> i have kids.  must amuse them periodically
[03:47] <seronis> =-)
[03:48] <fractaline> i was just wondering about live wallpaper....  how is it?  hungry for ram/cpu?
[03:48]  * fractaline has kids too
[03:48] <seronis> http://i.imgur.com/N6lULUT.png
[03:48] <Basil1x> Not to be a whinger, but since my upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04 my notifications have stopped.
[03:49] <Basil1x> The little purple blob of text is no more.
[03:49] <Basil1x> I would like it back, if possible.
[03:49] <Basil1x> I would also like my fire effect returned to me.
[03:50] <Basil1x> Is there any way to accomplish this?
[03:50] <fractaline> Basil1x, you mean compiz effect?
[03:50] <Basil1x> I do.
[03:51] <fractaline> where did it go?
[03:51] <Dr_willis> not all the compiz plugins are installed by default
[03:51] <Basil1x> It seems to have gone completely.
[03:51] <seronis> fractaline: its as hungry as whatever 'program' you use is
[03:51] <zhuwenjin> fgfg
[03:51] <Basil1x> It was there before the upgrade.
[03:51] <seronis> fractaline: most screen savers arent really intensive
[03:52] <Tex_Nick> Basil1x:  i probably can't help you ... but you need to define your problem a bit more ... fire effect sounds like compiz fusion ... and notifications sounds like an indicator problem ?
[03:52] <fractaline> seronis, cool i'l have a look around
[03:52] <seronis> -window-id $(xwininfo -name "Desktop" | grep 'Window id' | sed 's/.*\(0x[0-9a-z]*\).*/\1/g')
[03:52] <seronis> go into your screen saver folder and run one of them with that command
[03:53] <Basil1x> Notification from Libnotify, and the effect is from compiz fusion right enough.
[03:53] <seronis> with that as the 'arguments' i meant
[03:54] <seronis> without backgrounding the command the CLI prompt will hang and wait for you to  ctrl-c  to stop it from updating
[03:54] <n-iCe> Dr_willis: yes
[03:54] <seronis> desktop will maintain the last image until its told to redraw for some random reason so your image wallpaper wont be automatically restored instantly
[03:54] <seronis> but WILL be restored next login
[03:55] <fractaline> seronis,  thanks i'll have a play,  i'm still a cli rookie
[03:56] <seronis> good luck
[03:56] <James_Epp> I installed tftpd-hpa, then openbsd-inetd , edited /etc/default/tftpd-hpa to say 'RUN_DAEMON="yes" ' and did update-rc.d tftpd-hpa defaults   but the service is still not loading on boot. What should I do? ?? :S
[03:56] <Tex_Nick> Basil1x:  for the fire effect you might try ... sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins
[03:56] <ANub> hey.................does anyone know any ubuntu software to access internet contents bypassing firewalls (especially to use torrents / games)....?
[03:56] <James_Epp> ANub: I have an openvpn server at my house which I use.
[03:56] <Dr_willis> ANub,  use ssh tunnles and vpns
[03:57] <James_Epp> Dr_willis: *high five*
 Openvpn server???..........the client and server are on the same machine..?
[03:57] <Tex_Nick> Basil1x:  that is for 12.04 and above i believe
[03:57] <Fieldy> i'm not about to help somebody evade network policies you are supposed to follow while using somebody elses network
[03:58] <Fieldy> very fishy
[03:58] <echoe> chkconfig?
[03:58] <Basil1x> It says I already have that.  Perhaps the fire effect is no more?
 VPNS........please elaborate???
[03:58] <James_Epp> !vpn
[03:59] <Dr_willis> ANub,  go pay for a VPN..
[03:59] <am34> HI . Trying yo install ubuntu 12.04 (i guess) with bootable flash on asus laptop and after some successfull live now i only get black screen what should i do?
 ....FREE .....:)
[03:59] <Dr_willis> ANub,  run your own then
[03:59] <Dr_willis> You can get a VPN service for $5 a mo
[03:59] <echoe> well, you could use a free vpn and given them all your personal details :D
[04:00] <James_Epp> hell, when I was too n00b to set up my VPN, I just had a VNC connection to my home computer which I used
[04:00] <echoe> yay security
 VPN works on client server model......how can I place a server outside the country...?
[04:00] <Ben64> have to pay money for it
[04:00] <James_Epp> ANub: How about you tell us the end goal. Where are you, and what are you trying to do?
[04:01] <am34> some attention please
[04:01] <Ben64> am34: patience, young padawan
[04:01] <James_Epp> am34: Did you use unetbootin or what?
[04:01] <echoe> reinstall! #istheworstlinuxpersonever
[04:01] <am34> used unetbootin
[04:02] <Ben64> echoe: don't
[04:02] <Basil1x> Oh, well.  Found an effect I like better than fire.  But I'd still like libnotify to work.
[04:02] <James_Epp> Try putting the flash drive in another computer and see if you get the same result.
 I'm behind proxy / firewall, with certain open ports (like 80) while other are blocked......I would like to use torrent client for downloads..........but I cant since the blocking
[04:02] <James_Epp> ANub: Well, all downloads will be limited by the upload capabilities of the VPN server.
[04:02] <Tex_Nick> Basil1x:  i'm using 13.04 with the compiz plugins installed ... i don't use the fire effect ... but is is included in ... the CCSM in "settings/effects/paint fire on screen"
[04:03] <James_Epp> ANub: For instance, my openvpn server is on a residential connection with max 250kb/s UPLOAD. Therefor, if I am trying to download a file, the realistic maximum I will generally get is 100kb/s. Very slow.
[04:03] <am34> OK i will try
[04:03] <Basil1x> Hmmm... I see it not.  That could just be my eyes.
 I want to know if there are free VPN servers around the world that let you establish VPN connections (for ubuntu ofc)
[04:03] <James_Epp> ANub: Google.
 .... ok....:)
[04:04] <seronis> wohoo..  and now i got my livewallpaper even easier to use
[04:04] <Dr_willis> omgubuntu had some ads for a $10 credit at some vpn..
[04:04] <seronis> put the annoying regex portion in a script in  ~/bin/  so i can just put the scriptname in instead of the long stuff
[04:05] <James_Epp> I installed tftpd-hpa, then openbsd-inetd , edited /etc/default/tftpd-hpa to say 'RUN_DAEMON="yes" ' and did update-rc.d tftpd-hpa defaults but the service is still not loading on boot. What should I do? ?? :S
[04:06] <Basil1x> OK... Thanks, Tex.  TTFN
[04:07] <echoe> james can't you set it to on in chkconfig?
[04:08] <James_Epp> echoe: I have never heard of the term
[04:08] <ANub> Rarely I observe that ubuntu slows down . I check all the processes through System Monitor / Top command. Nothing unusal is found, so i cant kill any process. But the system stays very slow (like extensive CPU usage somewhere). My system is core i5 with 2GB RAM........I suspect my CPUs get stuck somewhere.....Any ideas how to find the cause..............?????????
[04:08] <echoe> http://askubuntu.com/questions/221293/why-chkconfig-is-not-available-in-ubuntu-12-10 oh.
[04:08] <James_Epp> echoe: 12.04 server
[04:09] <echoe> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ <you probably want this
[04:09] <echoe> chkconfig starts processes on boot but it is in fedora, which is the thing i use at work server-wise
[04:09] <echoe> from what I'm reading upstart is the ubuntu equivalent
[04:09] <James_Epp> ugh.....I need a 'readers digest' version
[04:09] <Dr_willis> !upstart
[04:10] <Dr_willis> upstart is much more then a  chkconfig app...
[04:10] <echoe> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html ?
[04:10] <Dr_willis> the upstart 'cookbook' page at that URL is  worth reading also
[04:10] <James_Epp> echoe: If I have to do more than one or two commands, the program is not useful to me.
[04:11] <Greygan> please... Menu bars and close/minimize buttons gone after Nvidia driver install... any ideas? I have tried many things from several forums and loading gnome is the only solution I have found.
[04:11] <James_Epp> I frown upon the tftpd-hpa team for not having auto-boot be such a taboo thing, but all I'm trying to do is literally make a startup service :/
[04:11] <Dr_willis> quick and dirty way - start the service from rc.local
[04:11] <James_Epp> Greygan: I had that one time with an AMD driver install. I re-installed my OS,
[04:11] <James_Epp> Dr_willis: Automatic boot.
[04:11] <James_Epp> Server environment.
[04:11] <Dr_willis> server still uses rc.local
[04:12] <James_Epp> no man entry
[04:12] <echoe> that it does, actually.
[04:12] <Dr_willis> never needed one... ;)
[04:12] <Greygan> i was afraid of that. thanks James_Epp
[04:12] <James_Epp> How do you use it?
[04:12] <Dr_willis> proper way is to make a proper upstart service
[04:12] <Dr_willis> look at /etc/rc.local
[04:12] <James_Epp> Greygan: There has to be a better way, I am sure -- I just do not know it.
[04:12] <Dr_willis> its about as simple as it gets
[04:12] <James_Epp> What do I add?
[04:13] <johnsmith> Hello. Ever since ubuntu 13.04, my computer won't detect the headphone jack on my computer. How do I fix that?
[04:13] <Greygan> I'd just about stay in Gnome as opposed to a reload... yuck
[04:14] <Dr_willis> whatever command starts whatever it is you are wanting to start.. goes in rc.local
[04:14] <Tex_Nick> Dr_Willis : out of curosity, does rc.local get invoked before or after lightdm ?
[04:14] <Dr_willis> no sudo needed
[04:15] <Dr_willis> Tex_Nick,  it can run AFTER lightdm starts.. actually depending on how fast things boot. it can run after the user logs in i recall..
[04:15] <James_Epp> Dr_willis: TY
[04:15] <Dr_willis> rc.local is the last service to run. lightdm starts befor that.. but all the services sort of launch in parallel..
[04:15] <Tex_Nick> Dr_willis : ok thanks man
[04:16] <munzx> good morning! i have installed ubuntu 12.4/13.4 in many different laptops and i noticed that when users opens the "dash menu" if i may call it so the processor fan speeds up and makes alot of noise! is that a bug ? if so how can i report it? , btw , all of those laptops are old!
[04:16] <James_Epp> Dr_willis: If this works, you win an internet, because I have been searching for this answer for a good 3 days now.
[04:16] <SparkySparkyBoom> hi
[04:16] <Dr_willis> James_Epp,  err.. it would have been a common faq on askubuntu.com
[04:16] <SparkySparkyBoom> how do i change the window manager on kubuntu 12.04
[04:17] <nikolam> hi. where do I download Ubuntu DVD now, I guess it have more software for implementation on the field. And I don't see images for 13.04...
[04:17] <echoe> why would you throw out anything that isn't a one or two line answer if you've been searching for three days *confused*
[04:17] <SparkySparkyBoom> there's no button at the login screen
[04:17] <James_Epp> Dr_willis: No change.
[04:17] <SparkySparkyBoom> like in unity
[04:17] <SparkySparkyBoom> any ideas?
[04:17] <Dr_willis> James_Epp,  be more verbose in your info..
[04:17] <SparkySparkyBoom> i tried searching for it
[04:17] <SparkySparkyBoom> and the google result only showed unity instructions
[04:17] <James_Epp> 'service --status-all' gave the same results now as it did before, with a big [?] and not a [+] like my nfs-kernel-server service does.
[04:18] <Dr_willis> James_Epp,  if you are starting things from rc.local you are bypassing all the service methods..
[04:18] <Dr_willis> rc.local is ran AT boot up.. once.. and thats it.
[04:18] <Dr_willis> there might be a rc.local service you could restart to make it rerun it
[04:18] <James_Epp> so this means.....?
[04:18] <Dr_willis> add the commands to rc.local  and reboot........
[04:19] <James_Epp> I did.
[04:19] <Dr_willis> be sure they are BEFOR the exit(0)
[04:19] <Dr_willis> like the comments say
[04:19] <James_Epp> I did precisely that.
[04:19] <johnsmith> My computer won't detect my headphone jack. Anyone know how to fix it?
[04:19] <Dr_willis> so what exactly did you add to rc.local?
[04:19] <James_Epp> I added service tftpd-hpa restart
[04:19] <Dr_willis> err.. if it was a service runable by the service command.. i dont see wny you would need it in rc.local
[04:20] <Dr_willis> unless you are just restarting it for some reason
[04:20] <James_Epp> Because it doesn't load by default.....
[04:20] <James_Epp> No, it NEVER starts by default.
[04:20] <Dr_willis> 'service tftpd-hpa start' works?
[04:20] <James_Epp> Nope.
[04:20] <Dr_willis> or you could just run 'tfpd-pha'   i guess.
[04:20] <echoe> look in /var/log/messages and /var/log/daemon and see what it says
[04:20] <echoe> diagnostics, people!
[04:21] <Dr_willis> if the serivice command dosent start it.. then rc.local running the service command isent going to start it.
[04:21] <James_Epp> True enough.
[04:21] <James_Epp> *sadface*
[04:21] <James_Epp> I'm just going to go sleep on it again.
[04:21] <James_Epp> Thanks for the direction
[04:21] <Dr_willis> so use the actual command that starts it.. not the service command
[04:21] <shekhark> Hi i am using ubuntu 12.10 and want to upgrade to 13.04. but when i click on update to 13.04 in update-manager nothing happends after that
[04:21] <James_Epp> I'll quest for it.
[04:22] <echoe> skekhark, run an update on your system utilities first
[04:22] <nikolam> WHY there is no 13.04 DVD? ...
[04:22] <echoe> comp needs to be fully updated before you can go to 13.04
[04:22] <Dr_willis> nikolam,  the iso files are for dvd.
[04:22] <shekhark> echoe i did that
[04:23] <James_Epp> *.iso.torrent is always better :D
[04:23] <nikolam> Dr_willis, I want DVD release with as much software on it as it can fit, for field installations.
[04:23] <ANub> Rarely I observe that ubuntu slows down . I check all the processes through System Monitor / Top command. Nothing unusal is found, so i cant kill any process. But the system stays very slow (like extensive CPU usage somewhere). My system is core i5 with 2GB RAM........I suspect my CPUs get stuck somewhere.....Any ideas how to find the cause..............?????????
[04:23] <James_Epp> nikolam: Perhaps debian would be better? It has like, 3 dvds
[04:23] <Dr_willis> nikolam,  there is no official 'maxed out 4gb dvd'
[04:24] <nikolam> Dr_willis, well there were, before. "DVD with more software on it" et
[04:24] <Dr_willis> nikolam,  those did not have more software.. just more default languages i belive
[04:24] <nikolam> James_Epp, my thoughts too, but eh, let's keep it to ubuntu for now
[04:25] <rtcg72a> hi, what alternative is there for movie maker in ubuntu?
[04:25] <dopie> whats a good image editor software? for ubuntu?
[04:25] <James_Epp> I do not have a solution, nikolam
[04:25] <James_Epp> rtcg72a: I have heard of a 'kden live'
[04:25] <James_Epp> but I have never tried it
[04:25] <Dr_willis> rtcg72a,  avidemix, openshot, kino (or was it kivo?)
[04:25] <madprops> rtcg72a: openshot
[04:25] <madprops> dopie: gimp
[04:25] <dopie> k
[04:25] <James_Epp> dopie: definitely gimp
[04:25] <dopie> thank ye
[04:26] <kdrscout> :P
[04:27] <Greygan> Anub : do you have this issue in other OS's as well? if so its possibly a thermal issue...
[04:27] <James_Epp> Props to the bottom-up approach :)
[04:27] <nikolam> Also, I can not longer search help.ubuntu.com ... I keep google.com javascripts blocked for privacy reasons. And I will keep it that way. Meaning, I can not use help.ubuntu.com ... :(
[04:27] <fabs> hi
[04:28] <James_Epp> nikolam: incognito?
[04:29] <nikolam> James_Epp, no, privacy matters. Not using google.com for Canonical main product , main support page, also matters.
[04:29] <James_Epp> nikolam: I have no suggestions.
[04:29] <madprops> duckduckgo?
[04:29] <madprops> although I wouldn't say it would respect your privacy
[04:30] <madprops> maybe it's google rebranded
[04:30] <James_Epp> Wouldn't surprise me.
[04:30] <nikolam> ixquick.com too, madprops , but that is not the point, point is that help page should not depend on other companies. Ok, that is just RFE.
[04:32] <ANub> Greygan: I have observed this very rarely in MS (since my machine is tripple boot...:) )........Rebooting resolves the problem
[04:34]  * James_Epp can hear music, sweet sweet music.
[04:34] <Greygan> probably not thermal if reboot resolves it. But doesnt sound like it is limited to ubuntu, so possibly a bad stick of ram?
[04:37] <Greygan> <--- Computer tech, not Linux guru so maybe others have another idea
[04:38] <dopie> anyone here use imagemagick
[04:40] <Dr_willis> ask the actual question and see who knows
[04:45] <Tex_Nick> !details | dopie
[04:46] <shekhark> i am using ubuntu 12.10 and want to upgrade to 13.04. but when i click on update to 13.04 in update-manager nothing happends after that, i even have all the updates installed as per update-manager
[04:47] <Greygan> shekhark try ctrl+F1 if you have internet and the upgrade is available without further updates you should get a message there to upgrade from there
[04:49] <Greygan> err ctrl+alt+F1
[04:49] <Dr_willis> !upgrade
[04:50] <Greygan> Just a suggestion as that is the method I used to upgrade... Though I quickly destroyed Unity with a driver install... so probably not the best person to answer... LOL
[04:51] <Dr_willis> unity/compiz has some quirk where even if the 3d drivers are installed.. compiz dont like it..
[04:52] <Dr_willis> seen it happen with nvidia, ati, and even intel... also seen it just suddendly start working again. ;()
[04:52] <Greygan> I think I will just stick with Gnome as it still works.. lol
[04:52] <histo> ANub: do you see anything hammering the cpu in top?
[04:52] <Dr_willis> not had it repeate the issue on me since  the final came out for 13.04
[04:52] <Dr_willis> that was just it.. the 3d effects/compiting worked in gnomeshell. and kde. but  unity/compiz dident like it.. ;()
[04:53] <shekhark> Greygan: i tried using do-release-upgrade , it show no release
[04:53] <Dr_willis> you have to tell do-release-upgrade to upgrade to non lts releases i belive
[04:54] <shekhark> ubottu: yes i went though that
[04:55] <Greygan> my problem with unity with its generic video driver is lag while watching movies.
[04:55] <kristenbb> hi, I just installed ubuntu 13.04, but I am still booting with 12.04. I have two drives, and 12 is in the second drive, but even if I boot with the first, it goes to 12. What can I do ?
[04:56] <iceroot> kristenbb: reinstall grub on the drive you are booting, because grub only sees the 12.04 installation
[04:56] <iceroot> !grub2 | kristenbb
[04:57] <shekhark> Dr_willis: i did do-release-upgrade -d
[04:57] <shekhark> shouldn't that work?
[04:57] <Dr_willis> i rarely upgrade.   ;)
[04:58] <Dr_willis> but i would think so. if thats what the guide says
[04:58] <ANub> histo: No
[04:59] <yofun> libusb_init() failed err -99Segmentation fault
[04:59] <yofun> how do i solve this?
[04:59] <shekhark> yes but still am unable to upgrade, anyone help please!
[04:59] <Dr_willis> if anyone knew the answer they would reply..  no need to  spout 'please help..'
[05:00] <Dr_willis> askubuntu.com might have some other clues
[05:00] <histo> ANub: I would check if it's possibly throttling the cpu down to conserve power.
[05:00] <shekhark> Dr_willis: ok :)
[05:00] <Greygan> I just used do-release-upgrade and it took mine from 12.10 to 13.04 after about an hour of downloads / installs
[05:01] <Greygan> could it be a free space issue? is there plenty of room in your ubuntu partition?
[05:01] <shekhark> Greygan: but it shows no relase found to me and update-manager does nothing after i click on upgrade to 13.04
[05:01] <yofun> libusb_init() failed err -99Segmentation fault
[05:01] <Greygan> hrm, over my head then. sorry
[05:01] <yofun> how do i solve this?
[05:01] <shekhark> Greygan: i didn't check that
[05:01] <Tex_Nick> shekhark:  in "software updater" click on settings ... then in "Software & Updates" click on the updates tab ... then set "notify me of a new version" to "for any new version" ... then run software update again ... i think that will work from gui
[05:01] <aishwarya> any good site to begin with the basics of ubuntu?
[05:02] <shekhark> Tex_Nick: yes that's already done, and it does show me the new version is available
[05:02] <shekhark> it is just that when i click on upgarde it does nothing
[05:03] <ftemplar> ..
[05:03] <shekhark> Greygan: i have around 1.3 GB free space right not in my ubuntu partition, isn't this enough?
[05:04] <new-on-raring> Dr_willis, i had that HDMI problem on Raring x64 with nvidia-current with the standard raring kernel: installing oem-audio-hda-daily-dkms from https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/alsa-daily/   and a restart solved it... so no need for mainline 3.9
[05:04] <karlmhaines> what up folks
[05:05] <Greygan> shekhark : I would think so, or even if it isnt it shouldent tell you no release is available...
[05:05] <she_dyed> hey there
[05:06] <madprops> waddup
[05:06] <shekhark> Greygan: yes but in update-manager it does notify me about the new version 13.04 it's just that when i click on upgrade to 13.04 after that it does nothing besides asking for permissions
[05:07] <Slain> Hello
[05:07] <she_dyed> have you already upgraded though shekhark?
[05:08] <shekhark> she_dyed: didn't get you? i am using 12.10 and want to upgrade to 13.04
[05:08] <Slain> i dont know if you want to upgrade, I'm having mad issues
[05:09] <Slain> Need help figuring out internal errors with new release
[05:09] <karlmhaines> 13.04 did awesome on my newer laptop that ive got (a sony viao), but i went through HELL with it on this one
[05:09] <karlmhaines> actually just got it working last night, took three days
[05:10] <she_dyed> if your sound+ gfx + video + wifi is working, i say don't bother
[05:10] <Greygan> Good question she_dyed, 13.04 looks very similar to 12.10 and it will keep telling you an upgrade to 13.04 is available after upgrading to it.
[05:10] <Slain> anyone else having strings of internal system errors from upgrade?
[05:11] <Greygan> Slain: no problems with 13.04 here other than unity hating my nvidia drivers... lol
[05:12] <min|dvir2us> Hi. transmission-daemon starts up as a service on my computer at boot time. How do I stop this?
[05:13] <shekhark> my do-release-upgrade doesn't show any update for 13.04, i am using 12.10
[05:13] <Greygan> shekhark: did you double check and make sure you are still in 12.10?
[05:13] <shekhark> Greygan: yes
[05:13] <Greygan> k, I would go this route then.   https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/upgrade
[05:15] <Tex_Nick> Slain : from what to what & what types of errors ... please be specific
[05:16] <shekhark> Greygan: another problem i have is when i boot using usb having 13.04, not it doesn't recogninzes my ubuntu 12.10 partition to upgrade, it just takes it as just another os installed on system
[05:16] <Slain> alright first things first, Brasero will now give me gstreamer error while trying to burn a audio cd, went and got restricted extras package, still ejects medium and gives gstreamer error, uninstalled, reinstalled, same error
[05:16] <Greygan> shehark : or you could check and make sure you are trying to upgrade from the main server, sometimes local servers do not show the beta
[05:17] <Slain> didnt happen before when using 12.10
[05:18] <shekhark> Greygan: changed to main server, still no new release found
[05:19] <Greygan> shekhark: as a last resort, I would wipe the 12.10 partition and do a clean install of 13.04
[05:20] <shekhark> Greygan: yes that's the last option but before that i want to get to the bottom of the problem :)
[05:21] <Tex_Nick> Slain : i'm using 13.04 ... can't speak about Brasero ... but i've done a few audio cd's with "sound juicer" on 13.04 ... works here
[05:21] <Greygan> shekhark: I understand :) I am just out of ideas... lol
[05:21] <she_dyed> well i would try a livesession off the liveCD before an install
[05:22] <shekhark> Greygan: thnx for the support :)
[05:23] <Greygan> shekhark: on this page http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-12.10-quantal-quetzal-to-13.04-raring-ringtail-desktop-and-server is it step 4 that it dies after?
[05:23] <mikubuntu> whats the best version of ubuntu to use with a gateway laptop with an AMD TURION 64 chip? should it be 32 bit or 64?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> the 64bit release should work wit any 64bit cpu
[05:23] <histo> mikubuntu: 64 bit ofcourse
[05:24] <mikubuntu> ok, thats what i thought -- i never installed 64 bit before
[05:24] <histo> mikubuntu: How much ram is in the machine?
[05:25] <shekhark> Greygan: after the 8th image
[05:25] <shekhark> it doesn't show my first 6 images
[05:25] <shekhark> its just the 7th and 8th image
[05:26] <mikubuntu> histo, don't know just got it at a garage sale today -- its 'running' windows 7 -- if you can call it running. took it 5 mins to boot up, and 10 to shut down
[05:26] <Greygan> shekhark: I assume you have rebooted and tried again...
[05:26] <histo> mikubuntu: lol... well boot up and enter the bios see how much ram is there.  That would be a big factor in deciding 64 vs 32 bit
[05:26] <shekhark> yup
[05:28] <histo> shekhark: what repo are you using? and what's the result of cat /etc/issue
[05:29] <shekhark> Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[05:29] <histo> shekhark: also check lsb_release -a
[05:31] <shekhark> No LSB modules are available.
[05:31] <shekhark> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[05:31] <shekhark> Description:	Ubuntu 12.10
[05:31] <shekhark> Release:	12.10
[05:31] <shekhark> Codename:	quantal
[05:31] <FloodBot1> shekhark: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:32] <Greygan> shekhark: i see where someone else had this problem and got passed it with "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" in tty1 (ctrl+alt+F1)
[05:32] <mikubuntu> histo, says total mem 1024, slot1: 512, slot2: 512, video mem 64 MB (UMA) ... is that what i'm looking for?
[05:32] <Braden`> Hello
[05:33] <Braden`> I believe that apparmor is trying to prevent me from transferring files to my server via vsftpd
[05:33] <histo> mikubuntu: yes I would run 32bit
[05:33] <Braden`> How do I add exceptions for vsftpd?
[05:33] <shekhark> Greygan: but it shows me no new release found
[05:33] <Greygan> shekhark: more info here http://askubuntu.com/questions/222296/cant-upgrade-to-ubuntu-13-04-development-release
[05:34] <mikubuntu> histo, damn, got 64 nearly downloaded ... lol ... thats ok, i'll download 32 now
[05:34] <histo> mikubuntu: a 64bit OS will use more ram than it's 32bit counterpart and you only have 1G of ram. Make sure you create a swap as well if you are manually partitioning. If ubuntu is too slow there are lighter versions like xubuntu and lubuntu but you should be okay with ubuntu.
[05:34] <Dr_willis> you can use 64bit os on less then 4 gb ram systems.. it wont matter much.
[05:34] <Dr_willis> for a 1gb system however. yea. Lubuntu may be quicker
[05:34] <histo> Dr_willis: right but it will use more of his ram due to the addressing etc...
[05:35] <Dr_willis> from what ive seen -using 64 instead of 32 - is rather minimal
[05:35] <Dr_willis> but i bet he can find moar ram really cheap these days. ;)
[05:35] <sere> lubuntu run great on my acer mini with 1 gig
[05:35] <histo> Dr_willis: it's almost twice the ram usage
[05:36] <karlmhaines> i've got ubuntu 13.04 running great with 1.5 on a 1300mhz intel
[05:36] <Dr_willis> histo,  discussions i saw dident say there would be that much loss.   ive never noticed the issue on my netbook either
[05:36] <mikubuntu> well, running lubuntu is just a matter of adding lxde as desk environment boot option, right?
[05:36] <karlmhaines> pentium m even, i had to hack a non-PAE kernel into the install disk, lol
[05:37] <Dr_willis> installing lubuntu-desktop package mikubuntu
[05:37] <Braden`> Anyone?
[05:37] <histo> mikubuntu: yes
[05:37] <Braden`> I believe that apparmor is trying to prevent me from transferring files to my server via vsftpd
[05:37] <Braden`> How do I add exceptions for vsftpd?
[05:37] <shekhark> Greygan: that didn't work either, still stuck
[05:37] <histo> Braden`: why do you think it's apparmor? do you have ufw enabled?
[05:38] <Dr_willis> might be a good idea to check the vfstp homepage/docs/guides and channel Braden`
[05:38] <Greygan> shekhark: did you read down the page where they give instructions on how to upgrade from the dvd?
[05:38] <Dr_willis> ive not heard of anyone else in here having to mess with apparoumr getting vfstp going
[05:38] <Braden`> histo:  The directory permissions are correct.  It couldn't be anything else...
[05:38] <Braden`> Not sure what ufw is
[05:38] <Dr_willis> I do recall some bug in the older vfstp versions/setup that let guest downloads work but not others.
[05:38] <iceroot> mikubuntu: lubuntu is using a complete different DE, it will bring up other default packages (chromium instead of firefox) but its using the same base as ubuntu. you can use your programs on lubuntu and ubuntu.
[05:39] <Braden`> Its authenticated users
[05:39] <Braden`> No anonymous connections are allowed
[05:39] <histo> Braden`: have you checked the logs
[05:39] <shekhark> histo: output of lsb_release -a is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5682719/
[05:39] <Dr_willis> I recall some PAM (i think) issue about a year+ ago with vsftp not authing users correctly
[05:39] <Dr_willis> but anonymous users worked.
[05:39] <Braden`> histo:  Aye, they don't give any useful info
[05:39] <Braden`> I checked /var/log/vsftpd.log
[05:39] <histo> shekhark: bizaare make sure you are using the main repo apt-get update and try the do-release-upgrade again
[05:39] <Dr_willis> check  the auth log also?
[05:40] <iceroot> Braden`: /var/log/auth.log
[05:40] <Braden`> Let me check
[05:40] <shekhark> Greygan: yes
[05:41] <Braden`> Nothing adverse in auth.log
[05:42] <Greygan> shekhark: wow no idea why it wouldent upgrade from the dvd / flash drive. that is VERY odd
[05:42] <histo> Braden`: is the user even getting prompted for a user pass?
[05:42] <Braden`> Of course
[05:43] <Braden`> In fact, the root jail is even operating properly for that user
[05:43] <histo> Braden`: then what is the error?
[05:43] <Braden`> 553
[05:43] <Braden`> 553 Could not create file
[05:43] <histo> Braden`: I would ask the vstfpd people
[05:44] <raven> im having an issue, ive installed the kernal headers and vmware but when i launch vmware it tells me they cant be found
[05:44] <shekhark> Greygan: from usb it does work, its just that it doesn't give me an option to upgrade, earlier it showed me that 12.10 is installed but didn't give me an option to upgrade it, not it just recognizes 12.10 partition as just another os
[05:44] <Braden`> Well
[05:44] <Braden`> How would I add an exception in apparmor?
[05:44] <Braden`> I might be wrong, but I still think that is the source of my problem since vsftpd is throwing users into a root jail
[05:49] <raven> can someone walk me though this http://mergy.org/2013/03/three-tips-to-get-vmware-workstation-9-going-on-kernel-3-8-0/
[05:49] <raven> im trying to do it but its not working for me
[05:50] <iceroot> raven: download it, install the kernel headers and run the installer
[05:51] <iceroot> raven: or give use useful infos what "does not work" mean
[05:51] <iceroot> raven: download it, run "chmod +x fileyoudownloaded.bin" and then "sudo ./fileyoudownloaded.bin"
[05:51] <shekhark> i have a ubuntu 13.04 usb but that doesnt recognize my already installed 12.10 partition for upgrade
[05:52] <iceroot> shekhark: imo you cant upgrade anymore with an iso
[05:52] <DONKEEZ> how do boot to grub, holding SHIFT at boot doesnt do it?
[05:52] <iceroot> shekhark: because the only version which was able to do it (alternate) does not exist anymore)
[05:52] <Dr_willis> holding shift SHOWS grub if its hidden by default
[05:53] <iceroot> DONKEEZ: you want to see the grub menu? or you want to switch the boot order to start the disc which contains grub?
[05:53] <Greygan> shekhark: did you try the "sudo sed -i 's/quantal/raring/' /etc/apt/sources.list" instructions from http://askubuntu.com/questions/222296/cant-upgrade-to-ubuntu-13-04-development-release when trying the upgrade from usb?
[05:53] <histo> shekhark: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:54] <DONKEEZ> iceroot see grub menu
[05:54] <iceroot> DONKEEZ: then its just shift at the right moment
[05:55] <DONKEEZ> iceroot i must be missing the moment after white blinking cursor and before purple window
[05:55] <iceroot> DONKEEZ: just trigger the shift key :)
[05:55] <histo> DONKEEZ: you can keep hammering the shift key
[05:55] <shekhark> histo: /etc/apt/sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/5682746/
[05:56] <histo> shekhark: you have a raring sources.list now
[05:56] <iceroot> shekhark: and your problem is that your system is still 12.10? even after sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[05:56] <Jordan_U> DONKEEZ: histo: The key is *holding* the shift key from the moment the computer starts, not hammering it multiple times.
[05:57] <Greygan> shekhark: sorry I missed that histo is helping you. they probably know waaay more than me.  I will step back.
[05:57] <histo> shekhark: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:57] <shekhark> yes
[05:57] <ra-fi> hi i swith on my computer it booted as normal one,but when i login into machine all options are there as normal but the icons does not show,all icons in application and places are shown as white small icons,i tried to open a document it also doen not open correctly,i think my gnome might be corrupted,can you tell me what is that problem
[05:57] <mikubuntu> histo, for some reason having trouble getting start up disk creator --- saying that my 7.3gb stick doesn't have enough space, but obviously, that can't be the case
[05:57] <iceroot> shekhark: what is the output of "cat /etc/issue" and "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii |grep -v ^rc"
[05:58] <DONKEEZ> thanks all, i might be back
[05:58] <Jordan_U> DONKEEZ: histo: If you're booting via UEFI then you have ~3 seconds to hit escape, because with UEFI a key being held down can't be detected (boo).
[05:58] <histo> mikubuntu: format it
[05:58] <histo> Jordan_U: I'm not doing anything
[05:58] <mikubuntu> doesn't the disk creator do the formatting?
[05:58] <histo> mikubuntu: yes there is a erase button.
[05:59] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: What filesystem does the USB drive contain? Do you want to keep the data currently on the drive?
[05:59] <mikubuntu> nothing on it, its new Jordan_U
[05:59]  * histo clamscan has been running for an hour customer has way to many files
[06:00] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: Could you please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[06:00] <shekhark> output of cat /etc/issue is Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l  and of "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii |grep -v ^rc" is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5682754/
[06:00] <iceroot> shekhark: please paste the output of "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:00] <iceroot> shekhark: sounds very strange
[06:02] <histo> iceroot: why is that bizarre output if you exclude ii and rc perhaps he purged everything.
[06:02] <iceroot> histo: i am grepping for all files which are not installed correctly
[06:02] <iceroot> histo: so maybe some broken dependencies are the reason why the upgrade process cant start
[06:03] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5682757/
[06:03] <shekhark> iceroot: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is still running and it asked me download around 500mb of data
[06:03] <DONKEEZ> held shift from bios to cusor, and booted straight to desktop. really what I'm trying to do is downgrade my kernel to see if my audio comes back
[06:03] <iceroot> shekhark: that is the upgrade to 13.04
[06:03] <histo> iceroot: he may not have the ubuntu-desktop package installed is my guess. He already updated his sources.list though so you know
[06:03] <Jordan_U> DONKEEZ: Do you know if your machine uses UEFI vs BIOS?
[06:03] <iceroot> histo: see above, his system is asking to upgrade to 13.04 with 500mb, so everything fine
[06:04] <shekhark> iceroot: ok! but why wasn't it working earlier?
[06:04] <shekhark> i did try and the update and dist-upgrade earlier separetely
[06:04] <iceroot> shekhark: dont know what you did before
[06:04] <histo> iceroot: right because he s/quantal/raring/ in his sources.list
[06:04] <iceroot> histo: always a bad idea
[06:05] <iceroot> histo: because do-release-upgrade has special postinst and preinst files
[06:05] <histo> iceroot: that's askubuntu.com for you
[06:05] <iceroot> histo: which will not run on dist-upgrade
[06:05] <histo> iceroot: I'm well aware of this just trying to fill you in on his issue
[06:05] <rymate1234> Hi
[06:05] <shekhark> i did run this command though "sudo sed -i 's/quantal/raring/' /etc/apt/sources.list" did this matter?
[06:05] <magic_ninja> is anyone familiar with office 2010 on wine?  I'm actually having a drive issue with randr and the nvidia driver
[06:05] <histo> shekhark: yes it does matter and may cause issues.
[06:05] <iceroot> histo: ok, thanks
[06:05] <rymate1234> How slow do you reckon it'll be booting from an MP3 player
[06:06] <Dr_willis> id be sprised if you could boot from a mp3 player
[06:06] <histo> rymate1234: depends on the processor and hard drive
[06:06] <Dr_willis> suprised
[06:06] <iceroot> Dr_willis: why not? its a normal usb drive
[06:06] <rymate1234> Well, its a USB drive
[06:06] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: Your USB drive is already using vfat (which is normal) and so you should be able to use unetbootin without needing to "reformat". I'm curious why it's giving an error also, would you mind posting a screenshot of the error message?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> ive definatly seen mp3 players that were not normal drives..
[06:06] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | mikubuntu
[06:06] <DONKEEZ> Jordan_U no I don't know, and how do I autocomplete names on  here?
[06:06] <rymate1234> Dr_willis: Mine is a normal drive XD
[06:06] <shekhark> histo: issues, rather i think, it is after this that upgrade worked!
[06:06] <Jordan_U> DONKEEZ: Press the tab key.
[06:06] <iceroot> rymate1234: i am using a system on a usb2 usb drive, its ok but the io performance isnt that nice
[06:07] <rymate1234> iceroot: That's fine
[06:07] <Dr_willis> I did see a neat tool for rooted android phones that let you allow THEM to boot up  a pc from ISO files stored on the phone.
[06:07] <rymate1234> Dr_willis: Using that at the moment
[06:07] <mikubuntu> ok, let me try to repeat it and get screenshot Jordan_U
[06:07] <DONKEEZ> thanks
[06:07] <rymate1234> However there's no persistence storage
[06:07] <iceroot> rymate1234: if it is not usb1.1 i think its ok
[06:08] <rymate1234> Ok
[06:08] <Jordan_U> DONKEEZ: Could you please pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr"?
[06:09] <DONKEEZ> Jordan_U command not found
[06:09] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: how much space should i allow in 'extra' sliding scale
[06:10] <shekhark> Greygan: i think "sudo sed -i 's/quantal/raring/' /etc/apt/sources.list" worked , but this is not while in the usb mode, upgrade is still in progress :)
[06:10] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: Do you want to use this USB drive for more than just running Ubuntu's installer to install to a hard drive?
[06:11] <histo> mikubuntu: it's up to you that's for persistent storage
[06:12] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: its an 8gb stick that i'll prolly just keep as an installer since i gave my other one away -- but i suppose if i can use some space for file storage if i'm traveling and using internet cafe i can boot live from it
[06:12] <Greygan> shekhark: cool. I hope it doesnt cause the issues  these guys were mentioning. They know more than I do... I was google... helping...
[06:13] <Jordan_U> DONKEEZ: Does your keyboard work in BIOS menus?
[06:13] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: so should i slide up to 6gb for persistant storage?
[06:13] <histo> mikubuntu: max it out if you want.
[06:14] <histo> !best | mikubuntu
[06:15] <mikubuntu> histo, didn't produce error this time -- copying files to stick now
[06:15] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: Both areas will be available for storage, the persistant data partition will be ext4 and will be difficult to access from Windows and OSX, but will contain files that are part of the root filesystem of your live system (somewhat like a real installation but with some serious downsides like not properly supporting updating/upgrading the system).
[06:16] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: but the stick will still be useful as 'live,' yes?
[06:17] <histo> Jordan_U: I thought it creates a cramfs or squashfs file for the extra storage not an additional partition
[06:19] <Jordan_U> histo: No, squashfs is a read only filesystem used for holding the read only portion of the LiveCD's root filesystem.
[06:19] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: Yes.
[06:20] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: ok, cool
[06:21] <histo> Jordan_U: I don't remember seeing an ext4 partition anywhere using startup disk creator
[06:21] <histo> Jordan_U: yeah it's jsut fat32
[06:21] <Jordan_U> histo: Did you endable persistant data?
[06:21] <histo> Jordan_U: yes
[06:23] <Jordan_U> histo: Interesting. Last time I looked that was implemented with a separate partition with the filesystem label "caper-rw", but maybe it's being done via files now (though it would need multiple files for more than 4 GiB of storage on FAT32)
[06:23] <Dr_willis> i think you can make a casper-rw partion. or have the file
[06:23] <histo> Dr_willis: not with startup disk creator
[06:24] <Senor> Jordan_U : I can not access shared dir by samba
[06:24] <Dr_willis> what if its allready a made partition. ;)
[06:24] <Senor> can you help me?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> or what if its even on a 2nd hd or flash drive
[06:24] <Dr_willis> that would be a neat trick
[06:25] <Guest45305> could anyone help a nob?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> and the issue is what Guest45305 ?
[06:27] <histo> How do you help a nob?
[06:27] <histo> turn it?
[06:27]  * histo come on clamscan go go go
[06:28] <Guest45305> I get a error message that says "no system tray detected" after i boot up. I just upgraded to 13.04 and this is new it used to work just fine. How do I restore the system tray?
[06:28] <Dr_willis> then it shows 1000 false positives.. so you have to rescan with a differnt av scanner.. ;P
[06:28]  * histo forgot the --remove=yes option probably
[06:30] <Noskcaj> if anyone sees kirkland, i demand he pings he
[06:31] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: what does that mean -- to 'ping someone'?
[06:32] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: To use their nick in a message, like you did with me, except without any actual content (saying that you're available to talk basically).
[06:32] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: ok
[06:32] <mikubuntu> like a summons ... lol
[06:33] <Dandalion> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc&feature=player_embedded
[06:33] <Dandalion> ^ I am very disappointed in Ubuntu now.
[06:34] <Dr_willis> how.. vague Dandalion ...
[06:34] <Guest45305> does anyone know how to message that says "no system tray on this computer"?
[06:35] <Tankado> Hello, i have Ubuntu 12.04 i am trying to reserve huge pages using => echo 64 > /sys/devices/system/node/node0/hugepages/hugepages-2048kB/nr_hugepages  , but i get permission denied, anyone knows how to solve that?
[06:35] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: and histo thx for help -- wish me luck, going to install on target machine now
[06:35] <Dr_willis> Guest45305,  there was some info about adding a system tray back to 13.04 on either the omgubuntu or webupd8 blog sites.. or theres differnt docks that have a systemtray feature
[06:35] <Dandalion> Dr_willis, it's a video of Richard Stallman talking about how Canonical collects your search phrases from Ubuntu's dash and sends it to Canonical servers to get ads from Amazon.... Very disappointing to me
[06:35] <Dr_willis> the system tray is basically being phased out infvor of indicator applets
[06:36] <Dr_willis> Dandalion,  thats old fud.. very old fud..
[06:36] <Guest45305> do you know the web address?
[06:36] <Tex_Nick> Dandalion:  Stallman served his purpose back in the good old days ... don't take him literal though ;-)
[06:36] <histo> Guest45305: do you have hplip installed?
[06:36] <Jordan_U> Tankado: You generally need to be root to be able to write to anything in /sys/, so it would be "echo 64 | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/node/node0/hugepages/hugepages-2048kB/nr_hugepages", but before you do that. What is your end goal and what guide are you following?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> Guest45305,  type in webupd8 or omgubuntu in your browser
[06:36] <shorty40hands> im having trouble with the signing of the COC both in command line and in the COC app assistant freezes on page 4 if anyone can help me through this please shoot me a pm. ty
[06:37] <Dandalion> I'm just disappointed that Ubuntu does that. I really like Ubuntu but I can't use it anymore because of this.
[06:37] <Guest45305> yes i do have HPLIP
[06:37] <histo> Guest45305: http://askubuntu.com/questions/101828/no-system-tray-detected-on-this-system
[06:37] <Dr_willis> Dandalion,  its all spelt out in numerous blog posts from  canocal. and RMS decides to have his own intterpertaion of what its doing.. which is why its fud on his part.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> !adlens
[06:37] <Guest45305> thanks
[06:38] <Tankado> Jordan_U : Sorry, i was using sudo in the start not the way you wrote it... but i am trying to get a package working which needs huge tables reserved
[06:38] <rymate1234> Dandalion: He's describing an amazon search feature
[06:38] <Dr_willis> and its trivial to disable.
[06:38] <rymate1234> How the hell is that spyware
[06:38] <Dr_willis> the Dash is to become the 'ultimate search engine'
[06:38] <Dr_willis> rymate1234,  not to mention the fact its right THERE in the open/obvious...
[06:38] <Jordan_U> !adlense | Dandalion
[06:38] <tMH> hello *
[06:38] <histo> Dandalion: you can remove it
[06:39] <histo> tMH: hola
[06:39] <rymate1234> Also richard stallman really hates nonfree stuff
[06:39] <Jordan_U> !adlens | Dandalion
[06:39] <tMH> ppl, I installed bwping by hands and it does not work...
[06:39] <tMH> histo - hiya!
[06:39] <Dr_willis> 13.10 and 14.04 are supposed to add even more lens..
[06:39] <tMH> how can I get it work ?
[06:39] <histo> !sudo > Tankado
[06:39] <Tex_Nick> Dandalion:  use something else then ... try #WINDOZE  ;-)
[06:39] <Kartagis> hi
[06:39] <Dandalion> thank you jordan_
[06:39] <Kartagis> 13.04
[06:39] <Dandalion> Jordan_U,
[06:39] <tMH> the server is ubuntu 12.04.02, as I remember correctly.
[06:39] <Dr_willis> I do like the askubuntu.com lens. but its built into the help lens now.
[06:40] <Kartagis> 13.04, add printer button is grayed out
[06:40] <rymate1234> Tex_Nick: But man freedoms!
[06:40] <Dandalion> didn't know you could remove it, so that's good to know. I really don't want to use any other distro
[06:40] <histo> !info bwping
[06:40] <Kartagis> there is a bug involved, but that's too old
[06:40] <tMH> yes.
[06:40] <histo> tMH: Can you elaborate on "doesn't work"
[06:40] <Dandalion> I just don't want to search for something and have it sent to Amazon to show ads. I don't want ads in my OS dashboard...
[06:40] <Dr_willis> RMS dosent mention the fact its easy to remove.. ;)
[06:40] <Kartagis> I assume there is a fix by now
[06:40] <tMH> histo - Total: pkts sent/rcvd: 10000/0, volume rcvd: 0 bytes, time: 117 sec, speed: 0 kbps, rtt min/max/average: 0/0/0 ms
[06:40] <histo> Dandalion: then remove that ability
[06:40] <Dr_willis> its not ads.. its search hits.
[06:40] <tMH> speed: 0 kbps is not a truth;)
[06:40] <Dr_willis> wife loves the feature.
[06:41] <histo> tMH: How did you install bwping?
[06:41] <tMH> histo - wget, configure, make install
[06:41] <tMH> from root , of course.
[06:41] <histo> tMH: then ask the author of bwping why his output is wrong
[06:41] <tMH> should I look for its sticky bit or something?
[06:42] <Dandalion> Yeah I am, I didn't know you could remove it but I'm reading the askubuntu on it right now so that's really good news
[06:42] <Jordan_U> Tankado: What package?
[06:42] <Kartagis> guys, I'm on 13.04, add printer button is grayed out
[06:42] <Dr_willis> Dandalion,  thats why we always tell people its 'fud' when they come in here complaining about it.. the RMS stuff does not give the full picture.
[06:42] <Kartagis> is there a fix?
[06:42] <Tex_Nick> Dandalion:  nowdays you get that practically everytime you pull up a page in your browser ?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> Its the kind of feature that if apple came out with it.. everyone would be going on how great it is. ;)
[06:43] <histo> Kartagis: go to localhost:631  in your browser
[06:43] <Dandalion> Yeah, thank you for clearing that up
[06:43] <Jordan_U> Dandalion: Dr_willis: Please move this non-support discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[06:43] <Dandalion> and Tex_Nick I disable that in my browsers via plugins
[06:43] <Kartagis> histo: and?
[06:44] <Dandalion> Jordan_U, will do, sorry about that.
[06:44] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: i don't know which wireless security setting to use, having trouble connecting the target computer to wireless
[06:44] <Kartagis> do I add the printer from there?
[06:44] <mchlbhm> anyone install Ubuntu 12 on their droid?
[06:44] <Dr_willis> i find the cups web interface easier to use then the cups tools Kartagis  :)
[06:44] <Dr_willis> !arm | mchlbhm
[06:44] <wilee-nilee> !touch | mchlbhm
[06:44] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: Network manager should automatically detect the type of encryption used by the wireless network you're connecting to. What are you doing to try to connect, and what happens when you do this?
[06:46] <histo> Kartagis: you can yes or go to printers from system settings >   or the dash
[06:46] <sku11knight> anybody here a unity developer? I need help running unity apps in ubuntu
[06:48] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: just trying to connect the target computer prior to installing -- i guess its not crucial? says to connect for best results -- options seem to be SECURITY: None, WEP 40/128 bit Key, WEP 128bit Passphrase, LEAP, Dynamic WEP, WPA & WPA2 Personal, or WPA and WPA2 Enterprise
[06:50] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: Are you connecting to a wireless router or to another computer? You do *not* want to select "Create new WiFi network" as that will make your computer act as the router (which won't help you connect to the internet).
[06:51] <she_dyed> hey
[06:51] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: just trying to get it to connect to my wireless router -- in 'editing connections'
[06:52] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: First try just clicking on the Network Manger icon in the top right of your screen and selecting your wireless network from the list that comes up.
[06:52] <mikubuntu> on my primary laptop, i have to input the 10 digit passcode from the router
[06:52] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: no list is coming up, which i thought was strange
[06:53] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: 'enable networking' is checked
[06:53]  * histo forgot --remove=yes ughhh
[06:53] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: Is your wireless network hidden?
[06:54] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: only three options showing VPN Connections, Enable Networking, and Edit connections
[06:54] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: i don't think its 'hidden' it shows up on this computer
[06:54] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: Something is wrong then as it should just be listed. Can you pastebin the output of "iwlist scan" and "nm-tool"?
[06:55] <mikubuntu> on this, or on the target? Jordan_U
[06:55] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: On the target.
[06:56] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: so i'll have to abort the install, and goto 'try ubuntu' to get my menus, correct?
[06:59] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: That's the easiest option, yes. (I always select try Ubuntu when installing, as then I can run the installer *and* do other things)
[07:01] <she_dyed> so there should be more peeps trying ubuntu first before installing
[07:01] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: for iwlist scan, output = Interface doesn't support scanning
[07:01] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: on 'lo' and 'ether'
[07:03] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: Then your wireless card isn't being used at all. Can you pastebin the output of "lspci" (you will presumably need to connect via ethernet or transfer the file via sneakernet).
[07:03] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: what are we looking for exactly in the output of nm-tool, cause i can't take a screenshot of it to send you
[07:04] <trijntje> how can I open a .pps file for editing in ubuntu? If I open it with libreoffice it starts the slideshow immediately, and when I close the slideshow libreoffice also closes
[07:04] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: Now that I know that your wireless card isn't even being listed in iwconfig, I don't need the output of nm-tool.
[07:04] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: i'll make a note to ax you later what sneakernet is -- and i don't think i can get a wired connection right now -- back in the dark side of the house behind a bookshelf :(
[07:05] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: Sneakernet is where you transfer files by putting them on a flash drive and walking to the other computer :)
[07:07] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: lol. -- i don't think i can find another usb anywhere -- should i just install without worrying about the connection for now?
[07:07] <mikubuntu> there's quite a bit of output on lspci
[07:07] <mikubuntu> and i don't know what i'm looking for
[07:07] <Jordan_U> mikubuntu: Yes, that's fine. You'll have the same wireless problem in the installed system also though.
[07:08] <Dr_willis> lines that say Network or network, or  similer perhaps?
[07:12] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: ok, proceeding with installation without connection
[07:12] <magic_ninja> what are you looking for?  You can use this:  lspci -a | grep "string here (such as | grep usb)"
[07:12] <lessless> how do I install libssl-dev 0.9.8 in 12.10?
[07:12] <magic_ninja> if it is a usb adapter I would think lspci -a | grep eth would work
[07:13] <lessless> system version is 1.0.1c
[07:14] <Jordan_U> lessless: What is your end goal?
[07:15] <lessless> Jordan_U, I need to build ruby against openssl 0.9.8
[07:16] <Jordan_U> lessless: Why? What is your end goal?
[07:18] <lessless> Jordan_U, this is a requirement to work with external API service :(
[07:20] <gedO> Hello
[07:20] <gedO> does someone know how I can build deb archyve
[07:20] <she_dyed> hey there
[07:20] <gedO> I have installed in my system old version package
[07:21] <gedO> and I want to make new version package from downloaded source
[07:21] <gedO> how I could make this hapen?
[07:21] <she_dyed> g2g cya folks
[07:21] <Jordan_U> lessless: Presumably you also need libssl (non -dev) 0.9.8 also, or are you building ruby to be run on another system?
[07:23] <Jordan_U> lessless: Interesting that there is a "libssl0.9.8" package but no "libssl0.9.8-dev" package. I'm trying to figure out why now.
[07:25] <lessless> yeah
[07:25] <lessless> so transition to openssl itself should be painless, but dev package might brake the system, right?
[07:28] <Jordan_U> lessless: I wouldn't expect any -dev package to "break the system". It's possible that the header files for 0.9.8 and 1.0.0 are the same, and that ruby build against libssl-dev (version 1.0.1c) would run against libssl 0.9.8 (I don't know one way or the other).
[07:30] <lessless> do I need to remove installed pacakges packages before downgrading?
[07:40] <mikubuntu> thanks again Jordan_U installation complete -- will have to address the wireless problem later
[07:40] <Jontydog> Hi all
[07:43] <mikubuntu> One more computer, liberated from Windows 7. Where's the LIKE button.
[07:46] <romi> help
[07:49] <hullo> Hi. I'm trying to get an FTP server running using vsftpd. Whenever I try to log in, it keeps asking me for a username and password again.
[07:50] <kvothetech> hullo: use a valid login?
[07:51] <hullo> I'm not totally clear on how its supposed to work. I'm trying to log in with my regular user account and password. I haven't added those anywhere special or anything.
[07:51] <kvothetech> hullo: did yoou enable local user login in vsftpd.conf?
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> hullo: how about pastebin the error code
[07:52] <hullo> kvothetech: In my /etc/vsftpd.conf, local_enable=YES uncommented.
[07:53] <kvothetech> hullo: ok then as lotuspsychje said give us the error code or tail of the log
[07:54] <hullo> where do I find the appropriate log file
[07:55] <suore> Hello
[07:55] <suore> cp: can not open "TVP1_HD-05192013-2314.ts' for reading: Input / output error  from pendrive.... help
[07:57] <rusman> will Ubuntu-phone use java virtual machine for applications development as an android it does?
[07:57] <hullo> kvothetech: I think I might be misunderstanding something basic. On the client terminal, I "ftp <hostname>" and it replies "connected to <hostname> Name (hostname:my_user_account): [PROMPT]
[07:59] <hullo> kvithetech: and I put in my username and password and it replies "530 Login incorrect. Login failed."
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> hullo: are you sure your login information did not change?
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> hullo: plz give us more details about your ftp connection
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> !touch | rusman
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> suore: what usb brand you get this error?
[08:00] <rusman> ok thanks
[08:00] <suore> its pendrive...
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> rusman: check the phone touch website from ubuntu, its very neat aswell
[08:01] <hullo> lotuspsychje: what can I give you that would help?
[08:01] <suore> brand dont know
[08:01] <suore> aaa Verbatim
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> suore: you maybe wanna reformat it clean
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> hullo: is it own ftp server? is it a remote ftp hosting?
[08:02] <hullo> lotuspsychje: i have both client and server in the room with me
[08:02] <Kartagis> !find pdfopt
[08:02] <suore> i formating before revording
[08:03] <hullo> kvothetech: what can i provide that would be helpful?
[08:03] <kvothetech> hullo: vsftpd log file
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> hullo: if you get code 530 your login must have changed, you forgot case sensitive or caps lock?
[08:04] <hullo> kvothetech: where is that file
[08:05] <hullo> lotuspsychje: nope. didn't change anything. same password.
[08:06] <hullo> lotuspsychje: do i need to specially create a user account for ftp, or can i just use the same account info i use for ssh
[08:06] <vitimiti> hi
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> hullo: maybe this can help http://www.jackenhack.com/vsftpd-ubuntu-server-530-login-incorrect-error-fixed/
[08:06] <Ben64> hullo: i'm curious, why don't you use sftp?
[08:07] <Kartagis> I have installed both ghostscript and scribus and pdfopt wasn't installed on my system. any ideas?
[08:07] <hullo> Ben64: this is my first time setting anything like this up
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> !info pdfopt
[08:08] <hullo> Ben64: I don't really know what I'm doing...
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:08] <Ben64> hullo: well sftp uses your ssh login and permissions, its much more secure than ftp
[08:09] <l9> sftp over ssh no hassle and works out of the box
[08:11] <hullo> lotyspsychje: that link didn't seem to change anything, unfortunately.
[08:12] <hullo> Ben64: Thanks for the info. Whats the difference between scp and sftp?
[08:13] <Ben64> hullo: sftp works more like ftp, but they both transfer files securely over ssh
[08:14] <hullo> Ben64: alright. I'm trying to figure out how to send a video to a friend. Is ftp the best way to do that?
[08:15] <hullo> lotyspsychje: I'm trying to figure out how to send a video to a friend. Is ftp the best way to do that? (sorry for the awkward posting style, getting used to the format)
[08:16] <Noob> hello
[08:16] <Noob> Can anyone help me??
[08:16] <histo> !ask | Guest51930
[08:17] <hullo> !patience
[08:18] <MonkeyDust> hullo  use /msg ubottu to test !factoids
[08:21] <l9> hullo if your friends has a linux computer you could upload the video thru the ssh connection on his computer. but i would recommend that you mailed him it insted
[08:23] <hullo> l9 Nope she's got Win7. I was thinking it would be easy for her to get the episode if I just put it on a server. Is that the wrong way of going about this?
[08:23] <l9> hullo: dropbox it...
[08:24] <hullo> l9 dropbox is quite slow, isn't it?
[08:24] <histo> hullo: She can sftp it from you
[08:24] <MonkeyDust> hullo  or use ubuntuone, synchronise the folder and send the link; or use the ubuntuone GUI to send the shared link
[08:25]  * l9 misses the good old sneaker net... 
[08:26] <MonkeyDust> hullo  like so : http://ubuntuone.com/5WfQjaUYpOpHMIx5qtJ2Cs
[08:26] <hullo> I'm thinking ubuntuone/dropbox/etc will be slow because it involves sending to the cloud and and then downloading from it. Is that wrong?
[08:26] <hullo> histo: does she need to have a user account on this computer to sftp it from me?
[08:27] <l9> hullo: no you are completly right, but let me ask you one thing can you log on too your computer from any location in the world?
[08:27] <histo> hullo: yes you can create a user for her and put the files in her ~
[08:27] <hullo> l9 i can ssh into my computer over the internet, why
[08:28] <l9> then she could sftp into your coputer like you ssh it
[08:29] <hullo> MonkeyDust seems like there's a building consensus that the fastest way is to make a guest user account and have her sftp into it. Would you agree with that?
[08:30] <histo> !best | hullo
[08:31] <MonkeyDust> hullo  never tried it, so dont know
[08:31] <hullo> Fair point, histo.
[08:33] <l9> hullo adduser gf give her a sftp client and off you are... only thing you need too figure out is you external ip
[08:34] <tertl3> hi
[08:34] <l9> tertl3: :)
[08:34] <tertl3> richard stallman was ralking bad about ubuntu
[08:35] <hullo> l9 I've got a dyndns account for the external ip. Should she be able to log in with a browser?
[08:37] <l9> hullo: not certain google has the answer
[08:37] <histo> hullo: with an sftp browser plugin or extension
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> hullo: if sharing a video with a friend is the purpose of the ftp, the limitation would be your isp's upload speed
[08:39] <l9> histo: firewall do i need it? i have a router that has firewall builtin
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> hullo: http hosting would be the fastest way for your friend to download
[08:40] <histo> !firewall | 19
[08:40] <dellos> hi all, I want to install ubuntu 13.04 in to my pc with out cd or usb. just boot by hard disk. I was make grub to boot in to "intall Ubuntu" title. but in that step I miss error "file not found". pl help
[08:40] <histo> 19: to answer your question it depends on your situation.
[08:40] <histo> dellos: what are you trying to boot from grub? the iso?
[08:41] <MonkeyDust> !install | dellos start hhere
[08:41] <dellos> that is the iso file
[08:42] <histo> dellos: What?
[08:42] <hullo> lotuspsychje: Interesting-- that's an option nobody's mentioned. What does that mean?
[08:42] <dellos> I make change in the menu.lst. but done know about how to change
[08:42] <histo> dellos: What is your native language?
[08:43] <dellos> viet nam
[08:43] <lunimon> hello, would anyone be able to help me with the broadcom crystalhd driver?
[08:43] <lunimon> on raring, byt the way
[08:43] <histo> !vn | dellos crossses fingers
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> hullo: maybe you can ask in this channel about lamp server/file servers to host your files on http
[08:44] <adBrian> are you talking about houses?
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> !ubuntu | adBrian
[08:45] <Jewfro-Macabbi> hullo, apache 2 is fairly simple to setup
[08:45] <MonkeyDust> adBrian  this is ubuntu support
[08:45] <adBrian> lol thanks, but i'm using arch :(
[08:46] <adBrian> i just came here from #defocus ,  they are talking bout houses!
[08:46] <l9> lotuspsychje: wasnt a http server kind of over kill for sharing a video?
[08:46] <MonkeyDust> adBrian  great, enjoy the talk, but keep this channel clear for ubuntu support, please
[08:46] <DJones> adBrian: Not really a topic for this channel, Ubuntu suppport yes, but houses, no
[08:47] <hullo> I'll look into LAMP servers. Is the difference between sftp and ftp that you need a user account in order to use sftp?
[08:47] <adBrian> thank you
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> l9: he asked about the fastest way, you agree that ftp will be limited by his isp upload speed
[08:48] <Jewfro-Macabbi> l9, that depends on how easy you want it to be for the person receiving the video.
[08:48] <l9> lotuspsychje: yeah offcourse but so will a internal http is still limited too the same upload speed
[08:48] <histo> hullo: no not exactly
[08:49] <histo> hullo: you also don't need mysql or php to share the file via http just need apache
[08:49] <l9> Jewfro-Macabbi: the easiest way would be dropboxing it or ubuntuone
[08:49] <hullo> For sharing a file, what is the functional difference between HTTP, FTP, and FTP?
[08:49] <histo> hullo: install apache and plop the file in /var/www  then give her your IP to browse to.  Keep in mind anyone can then grab the file.
[08:49] <lunimon> I have trouble getting the module loaded for crystalhd, I've raring, kernel 3.8.0-21-generic, installed firmware-crystalhd, libcrystalhd-dev ad libcrystalhd3, but dmesg does not have any crystalhd in it. I've found the firmware files, but cannot get the module loaded, I keep getting "Module crystalhd not found". I can't compile the source of the libcrystalhd3 (it gives errors) and getting the driver from git doesn't compi
[08:49] <lunimon> le either. What should I do next?
[08:50] <Jewfro-Macabbi> l9, those have certain limitations, I'm sharing a 100+ gb worth of videos.
[08:50] <histo> hullo: sftp is secure and encrypted. ftp is login based but sends passwords plain text. Http is wide open for anyone.
[08:50] <gulag2012> 13.04 is okay so far, just missing sound over hdmi. I still like Unity is a little quirky
[08:50] <Jewfro-Macabbi> histo, it's not terribly difficult to password protect a directory
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> histo: can't you password protect apache index?
[08:50] <Jewfro-Macabbi> yes, yes you can
[08:51] <histo> yes sorry forgot to mention
[08:51] <histo> !htaccess
[08:51] <shmoon> just trying to understand few things/concepts, so the kerel binary lies in /boot (on ubuntu) ?
[08:51] <shmoon> what is its name ?
[08:51] <l9> Jewfro-Macabbi: oh yeah i agree with you on that. But here is one movie, not a complete set of doctor who
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> Jewfro-Macabbi: but like l9 says theres also upload speed limit from isp right?
[08:51] <shmoon> (i am reading up on booting process actually)
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> l9: can ubuntuone share stuff between users?
[08:52] <Jewfro-Macabbi> lotuspsychje, naturally - unless you use a hosting provider - but that's a bit overkill for sharing the lone file
[08:52] <MonkeyDust> and windows is also slow
[08:53] <l9> lotuspsychje: yes with links
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> l9: thats sounds pretty nice, and might be the fastest way indeed
[08:54] <hullo> Sorry, I'm a little mixed up about what was just established above.
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> Jewfro-Macabbi: well i think hullo can decide now if he want the lone file or thousands :p
[08:55] <Jewfro-Macabbi> hullo, if you are sharing a single file then a simple service like ubuntu one or google drive would be easiest
[08:55] <hullo> And if its gonna be many, then?
[08:55] <Jewfro-Macabbi> hullo, if you want to share a mass directory of files, look into apache2
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> l9: any info on the ubuntuone's hosting speeds?
[08:56] <histo> hullo: You can install apache and setup an .htaccess file if you want to password protect the directory.  You've been told multiple ways of accomplishing what you want to do either via sftp http ftp or some cloud hosting. You need to decide and see what works best for you.
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> !one | hullo
[08:56] <l9> Jewfro-Macabbi: there is always many soltuions too a problem, offcourse rebuilding ubuntu too make a file server is the 1337 way todo it. Then you have too consider if it worth the work or not. then theres is the smartway use what is already there like http hosting or a simple ssh connection
[08:57] <Jewfro-Macabbi> l9, scp is awesome sauce, but that's a bit nerdly
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:57]  * lotuspsychje looks around in channel for nerds
[08:57] <histo> hullo: Easiest way for her to pull the file would be http. She could use a browser and just click on the file and save it. Or you could go extremely complex and setup a VPN and a shared folder
[08:58] <l9> hullo: before you ask one more question please... for the love of god just do it!
[08:58] <histo> Jewfro-Macabbi: not with winscp or whatever she would be using.
[08:58]  * l9 finds no one ;)
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> lolol
[08:59] <Jewfro-Macabbi> histo, as per usual, how much work you have to do depends on the tech level of your target
[09:00]  * l9 off too google howto make love too my wife, then i am gonna find irc channel to debate it
[09:01] <Jewfro-Macabbi> l9, it could be a positive learning experience
[09:01] <histo> hullo: basically sftp is already installed and working... Or you can sudo apt-get install apache2 and plug your files in /var/www port forward 80 to your ubuntu box and giver her the ip. If you want to password protect it setup an .htaccess file
[09:02] <hullo> Ok it looks like theres an enormous amount of options-- all of them seem appealing. I'm gonna try to learn how to do the http server, because that sounds fun to learn.
[09:03] <hullo> Thanks very  much histo, l9, lotuspsyche, and Jewfro-Macabbi. (and ubottu, too.) Y'all are wonderful.
[09:04] <Papa_Francesco> Ciao a tutti :D
[09:05] <l9> :)
[09:05] <MonkeyDust> !it
[09:17]  * treetreetr33_ ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.9.5 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate  ** CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU         760  @ 2.80GHz (2.00 GHz) ** RAM: 16343 MB Total (11860 MB Free) ** VGA: AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series ** Uptime: 108.83 Hours **
[09:18] <MonkeyDust> treetreetr33_  did you have a ubuntu question?
[09:19] <lunimon> can anyone direct me to the correct place to ask about trying to get a module to load?
[09:19] <treetreetr33_> huh? don't thinks so :)
[09:19] <bekks> lunimon: This is the place.
[09:20] <lunimon> I have trouble getting the module loaded for crystalhd, I've raring, kernel 3.8.0-21-generic, installed firmware-crystalhd, libcrystalhd-dev ad libcrystalhd3, but dmesg does not have any crystalhd in it. I've found the firmware files, but cannot get the module loaded, I keep getting "Module crystalhd not found". I can't compile the source of the libcrystalhd3 (it gives errors)
[09:21] <lunimon> the different git versions also give errors (some files have been moved in recent kernels and the driver apparently doesn't take it well)
[09:21] <bekks> lunimon: Which errors...?
[09:22] <lunimon> "crystalhd/driver/linux/crystalhd_lnx.c:434:22: error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before 'chd_dec_init_chdev'"
[09:22] <lunimon> and so on, a few of those
[09:22] <lunimon> all in crystalhd_lnx.c
[09:23] <bekks> lunimon: Please pastebin the entire log to a paste service.
[09:24] <bekks> lunimon: Just one line is pretty useless when it comes to compiling.
[09:24] <MonkeyDust> lunimon  there's #ubuntu-kernel
[09:24] <lunimon> understood
[09:24] <lunimon> http://pastebin.com/rn4XWAT5
[09:24] <lunimon> that's one of the git versions
[09:25] <lunimon> I also downloaded and tried with crystalhd_0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19-9ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz
[09:26] <lunimon> the output with that one is different
[09:26] <lunimon> http://pastebin.com/UcuY6AKc
[09:27] <bekks> lunimon: The code of that module has to be fixed - best bet is to contact the author.
[09:27] <lunimon> yes, although that might be a difficult one
[09:28] <lunimon> what I was wondering though, is how to get the driver that is in the ubuntu repositories to work
[09:28] <lunimon> firmware-crystalhd, libcrystalhd-dev ad libcrystalhd3
[09:28] <bekks> lunimon: Which Ubuntu are you using, and which Ubuntu version is the target version of the package in the repos?
[09:29] <lunimon> I can find the firmware files (and the lib), but am not sure how to load the module
[09:29] <lunimon> I have raring, based on XBMCbuntu and updated/upgraded to newest
[09:30] <abdel> hello I cant install skype on 13.04...i need help pls
[09:30] <lunimon> arno@tv:~/Downloads/crystalhd-0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19/driver/linux$ cat /etc/lsb-release
[09:30] <lunimon> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[09:30] <lunimon> DISTRIB_RELEASE=13.04
[09:30] <lunimon> DISTRIB_CODENAME=raring
[09:30] <FloodBot1> lunimon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:30] <lunimon> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 13.04"
[09:31] <lunimon> sorry for flooding, FloodBot1 ;)
[09:34] <bobbyaldol> I get this error when I update 'E: Encountered a section with no Package: header' 'E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu.arcticnetwork.ca_dists_precise_universe_binary-amd64_Packages'
[09:36] <bobbyaldol> the online help couldnt rectify the problem
[09:37] <amiral_> hi guys you know how important hardware for an IT, we can do nothing without hardware. my hardware is falling a part and i need some money to buy new one any one can give me 300 or 400€ i really need it
[09:38] <MonkeyDust> !ot| amiral_
[09:40] <amiral_> i can't manipulate Ubuntus without hardware !!!!!!!!
[09:54] <kabul> čau, poradí mi někdo s instalací skype do ubuntu 13.04
[09:55] <SwedeMike> !cz | kabul
[09:55] <auronandace> !skype | kabul
[09:55] <kabul> im sorry :)
[10:01] <leocloud> hello ,how to change my theme in 13.04
[10:02] <Arkhana> leocloud: what do you mean?
[10:03] <rigo> i format a verbatim 8gib usb3.0 stick in my pc for ntfs, plug in to the ubuntu based htpc copy the data plug back into my pc and it sais "must be formatted before use" wtf?
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> leocloud  use gnome-tweak-tool or unity-tweak-tool
[10:03] <leocloud> then
[10:04] <nezlobnyj> hi. asus et2013i, had someone met one? i currently have a problem with 12.04.
[10:04] <rigo> i plug the stick back to ubuntu and it works like charm
[10:05] <rigo> only the shitty win7 sais it must be formatted. and it shows "RAW" data on it
[10:05] <rigo> what can i do?
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> rigo  ask in ##windows how to use windows
[10:06] <rigo> this is a cross platform operation.. so u say ubuntu doesnt does anything wrong?
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> rigo  you just said it works in ubuntu
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> rigo  to windows, there's no such thing as cross platform, there's just windows
[10:09] <Darkchaos> Can somebody help me with an ubuntu based distro? I dont get persistence running on my usb stick. I see some error while booting, but dont have a log to it.About [15....]
[10:10] <rigo> i mean cross platform by transfering files "from linux to windows" via usb stick
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> Darkchaos what distro would that be?
[10:11] <Darkchaos> "kali"
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> Darkchaos  not supported here, type /msg alis list *kali*
[10:13] <Darkchaos> yeah, but on their channel there seems to be nobody active, so I thought you have a clue, since it should all be handled by the underlying ubutun?
[10:14] <k1l> Darkchaos: kali is even not ubuntu based.
[10:14] <leocloud> i download theme from gnome and install tweak
[10:15] <leocloud> I still can't change my theme
[10:15] <hoyang> aha.
[10:15] <k1l> leocloud: in which folder did you put it?
[10:15] <leocloud> i set a folder with name new.thems
[10:16] <hoyang> xfce4 look like windows 7.
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> leocloud  use unity-tweak-tool
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> hoyang  now you know what to avoid
[10:16] <Darkchaos> ok, thanks anyway. Will persistence keep all the new packages installed by apt?
[10:17] <hoyang> MonkeyDust, aha. right.
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> Darkchaos  depends on how the kali people decided to manage it, we don't know
[10:18] <Darkchaos> hm ok, thanks anyway.
[10:18] <k1l> leocloud: did you put them into ~/.themes ?
[10:19] <leocloud> you mean ,put them into ~/.themes
[10:19] <leocloud> I think i didn't
[10:20] <k1l> leocloud: so how should the ubuntu know that you got a new theme?
[10:20] <k1l> leocloud: put that theme into that folder
[10:21] <leocloud>  /usr/share/themes
[10:21] <leocloud> you said this folder
[10:21] <zadar> Hi t here! I am traing if this chat is working propperly ;) I am from czech republic 34old male good boy :D
[10:21] <rigo> they say there that i doesnt unmounted correctly... :D
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> zadar  it works, but this is ubuntu support
[10:22] <zadar> can u see my message? answer me pls... ;)
[10:22] <rigo> ...i did not.. so is it right :)
[10:22] <katsy> well that answers that question
[10:22] <zadar> ok thanks monkey! :)
[10:22] <k1l> leocloud: i said ~/.themes
[10:23] <MonkeyDust> leocloud  that's /home/username/.theme     <-- replace username with yours
[10:23] <Solarra> may I kindly ask for some support
[10:23] <MonkeyDust> Solarra  sure
[10:23] <anonymoususer> When is an updated miro package going to be available? 4.x is in repos, but 5.x has been out for over a year.
[10:23] <Solarra> I have been getting my ass kicked
[10:23] <Solarra> for over 5 hours now
[10:23] <Solarra> and this computer is going out a window soon
[10:23] <zadar> its first time i try joint xchat so firstly i must to understund it, it makes me confused little bit, but i am learning fast :)
[10:24] <rigo> what have you done Solarra? :)
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> zadar  join a different channel to learn chat, this is for ubuntu support
[10:24] <Solarra> I keep typing this command "sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/`uname -r` ~/Desktop/wl_apsta.o" and keep getting the error "sudo: b43-fwcutter: command not found"
[10:24] <shojo> anonymoususer: your ip shows
[10:25] <Solarra> I am trying to get my linksys wireless card working
[10:25] <shojo> oops wrong chan again
[10:25] <zadar> and sorry 4 my english I am still learning... I like englis..
[10:25] <zadar> english
[10:25] <Solarra> long story short, hard wiring this computer is not an option
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> zadar  type /join #defocus
[10:25] <shojo> :D
[10:25] <zadar> ok so bye take care guys ok I try find another one!
[10:26] <zadar> ;)
[10:26] <rigo> how far are you now?
[10:26] <Solarra> me?
[10:26] <leocloud> yes,i put it into my folder /home/hat/
[10:26] <rigo> lspci | grep Network
[10:26] <rigo> ?
[10:26] <zadar> ok defocus i am going there, bye
[10:26] <anonymoususer> shojo: Thank you for that revelation.
[10:28] <leocloud> with a name new.theme
[10:28] <rigo> well.. i tried :D
[10:29] <Solarra> :-(
[10:29] <rigo> Solarra: lspci | grep Network
[10:29] <Solarra> hmmm?
[10:29] <pilsa> hi ... is there a scrolling ticker for the desktop that will display user defined text strings ... e.g. "ticker 'hello world'" would pop a ticker bar and scroll "hello world" across the desktop.
[10:29] <Kurza> hello, I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 on a server, I'm logged in via ssh but when I do users, I have 2 "root" users logged in, any ideas?
[10:29] <pilsa> gnome desktop i must say
[10:30] <Solarra> again this particular machine cannot be connected to the internet until this wireless card works
[10:30] <rigo> again: how far are you? is the wireless network card driver installed or only the ip address must be setup? what have you done until now?
[10:30] <Solarra> I'm trying to follow this guide http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/692
[10:31] <bekks> Solarra: Do you have Mint then?
[10:31] <Solarra> no
[10:31] <Solarra> I have Ubuntu 12.04
[10:31] <robin> who not upgraded to13.04?
[10:32] <bekks> robin: Why?
[10:32] <rigo> so you need the driver.
[10:32] <Solarra> I apologize for not being technically savvy as I am a lawyer not a IT lol
[10:32] <penos> hi
[10:32] <robin> bekks: why not?
[10:32] <rigo> Solarra: IRC: server is irc.freenode.net, channel is #bcm-users (English please)
[10:32] <bekks> robin: Because 13.04 isnt LTS?
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> pilsa  #ubuntu-server
[10:33] <rigo> robin: the fglrx driver brings 100% cpu usage because of the vsync by 13.04
[10:34] <robin> so 12.04 is a lot better?
[10:34] <rigo> Solarra: u need to download this package: firmware-b43-installer and install it. it will work fine i think.
[10:34] <leocloud> who can send me some pictures
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> leocloud  of what?
[10:34] <Solarra> stupid question, where do I get that?
[10:34] <leocloud> change my themes
[10:35] <bekks> robin: 12.04 is supported until 2017, 13.04 until 01/2014. Go figure. :)
[10:35] <k1l> Solarra: apt-get install <packagename>
[10:35] <leocloud> i can't login youtube and can't see the video
[10:35] <robin> yeah but when 13.04 is almost at its support end, there will be a new update
[10:35] <MonkeyDust> leocloud  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:35] <Solarra> k1l: That machine cannot connect to the internet :/
[10:35] <robin> and i think i have a better FPS with 13.04 when gaming
[10:36] <robin> still dont understand wine though
[10:36] <robin> :P
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> robin  try playonlinux
[10:37] <robin> in the softwarecentre?
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> yes
[10:37] <robin> thanks
[10:38] <bekks> robin: There are people who dont care about FPS, since they are using their computer productively. ;) And these people will stick with 12.04 most likely.
[10:39] <robin> yeah youre right
[10:39] <robin> but will you upgrade to 14.04 when released? its LTS too
[10:40] <bekks> robin: From 13.04 you will have to upgrade to 13.10 before. And using 12.04, I'll update to 16.04...
[10:40] <bekks> robin: Hunting versions is a no go in productive environments.
[10:41] <robin> i see
[10:41] <robin> didnt think of that before
[10:41] <Neozonz> how do i change priority of future processes launched?
[10:41] <robin> most stable is best ofcourse
[10:41] <robin> my server runs 12.04 too ;)
[10:42] <Solarra> ok i tried to run firmware-b43-installer and again i strike out
[10:42] <penos> is ubuntu 13.04 better than windows vista?
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> penos  everything is better than windows
[10:42] <robin> vista is really bad
[10:42] <Solarra> WM54GS V1.1 is the wireless card
[10:43] <robin> you should dualboot window/ubuntu to try linux and then decide
[10:44] <delnigium> Hi, how do I close terminal (ssh session)? Thanks.
[10:44] <green_geeky_dude> exit
[10:44] <delnigium> wow, thanks
[10:44] <penos> quit? exit?
[10:44] <robin> is there a way to easy disable grub password without reinstalling your pc?
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> robin  grub password?
[10:45] <Solarra> Specific error: Dependency is not satisfiable: b43-fwcutter (>= 1:015-9)
[10:45] <robin> yeah the boot loader
[10:45] <robin> i accidentally set a PW ( thought it was for login screen ) and now im getting sick of it
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> robin  a password for grub?
[10:46] <robin> i accidentally set a PW ( thought it was for login screen ) and now im getting sick of it
[10:46] <robin> just after bios, that one
[10:47] <robin> think its called grub PW
[10:47] <pilsa> i have 3x3 virtual gnome desktop. is it possible to assign a startup application (e.g. xterm) to a specific workspace?
[10:47] <DJones> robin: Is there anything on here that helps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Passwords
[10:47] <robin> pilsa, dont know that one but it is possible to set programs to boot with ubuntu but they prob load on all workspaces
[10:48] <robin> Thanks DJones
[10:49] <th0r> Solarra, are you sure you want the b43 module for that card?
[10:49] <Solarra> i don't care what I use as long as it works
[10:50] <th0r> Solarra, no, there are a hundred modules that won't work, and I don't intend to spend time getting you the wrong one. Are you sure the b43 module is the one for that card?
[10:50] <leocloud> how can i cross the wall
[10:51] <Solarra> I am not.
[10:51] <Solarra> as I said before I am not exactly the most tech savvy
[10:51] <Solarra> The card itself is a Linksys WM54GS V1.1
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Solarra: what wifi chip does it use?
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> Solarra  is that a USB dongle?
[10:52] <Solarra> negative
[10:52] <Solarra> PCI card
[10:52] <Abator>  i need help, want to share my usb internet via wireless network card. plz help
[10:53] <Solarra> I can turn the computer upside down and read more numbers off the card but idk if the serial number would help much
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Solarra: run:  sudo lshw -C network     what wifi chip do you see?
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> !ics | Abator is this useful
[10:53] <Solarra> sec
[10:54] <shmoon> hi
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> Solarra: also run: cat /etc/issue    what is output?
[10:54] <shmoon> what is the default runlevel chosen by ubuntu ?
[10:54] <Darkchaos> IS there Anybody who tried to use UNetBootIn to boot Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro?
[10:54] <shmoon> on startup ? i read its mentioned in /etci/inittab, but that file doesnt exists
[10:54] <rigo> have u tried to install the package i mentioned yet?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> shmoon: for server or desktop?
[10:55] <shmoon> ActionParsnip: both
[10:55] <Solarra> ok it says Broadcom BCM4318 [AirForceOne 54g] 802.11g Wireless Lan controller
[10:55] <shmoon> but i am testing on server currently :)
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> shmoon: desktop is a GUI login, so 5, server will use 3
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | Solarra
[10:55] <Solarra> version 02
[10:55] <Guest31814> is it possible to install unity 8 and mir in ubuntu 13.04 already?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> shmoon: if you run:   last     i believe it shows the last init level
[10:55] <penos> !unity
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> shmoon: sorry:  runlevel
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> Guest31814  there's this, but thats not supported here -- backup first http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMxNzg
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> shmoon: if you see an N in the left vakue, it is because you haven't changed. The value on the right is the current level
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Guest31814: you may find a PPA
[10:57] <shmoon> ActionParsnip: N 2
[10:58] <shmoon> ActionParsnip: so what file defines 2 as default runlevel ?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> shmoon: then you are on server, or are SSH'd in
[10:58] <penos> inittab
[10:58] <shmoon> yah on server using ssh
[10:58] <shmoon> there's no inittab, penos
[10:58] <shmoon> /etc/inittab
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> shmoon: then that's why, if you open a gnome-terminal on the desktop and run the same it will be different
[10:59] <shmoon> ActionParsnip: ok
[11:00] <gedO> Guys, I have old version of package installed in system and I would like to create new package from source
[11:00] <shmoon> Darkchaos: i bought a mbpro recently, and am using it. i want to install ubuntu on it too, i heard ubuntu 13.04 goes well with it, haven't tried yet
[11:00] <gedO> how I could do that?
[11:00] <penos> checkinstall
[11:00] <shmoon> just feels weird to live without ubuntu now, lol
[11:01] <Darkchaos> Well my Problem is the following: I have a bootable usb-stick, works on every device, however the macbook throws "boot error" right before even Entering the Bootloader
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> Darkchaos: tried a different usb creator?
[11:02] <Darkchaos> I tried nearly everything until it's running under the usual windows. Retrying will be pain, but I can
[11:02] <Darkchaos> Would you recommend something other than UNetBootIn?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Darkchaos: there are others you can use.
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> Darkchaos  maybe the people in ##mac know some other tool
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Darkchaos: try the 1 2 3 app from pendrivelinux
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Darkchaos: do you set the USB to be the boot device in the mac?
[11:03] <k1l_> if its an old mac you need some special ubuntu version
[11:03] <Darkchaos> of course.
[11:03] <Darkchaos> No it's the newest version, using rEFIt
[11:03] <shmoon> eEFit?
[11:04] <shmoon> eEFIt*
[11:04] <Darkchaos> It's a tool to enable booting x86 os
[11:08] <shmoon> even with upstart the concept of runlevel is (or will be) there, right ? so that on boot only those upstart configs are executed (to start processes) that arerequired/assigned to specific runlevel/mode of operation, am i getting it right ?
[11:09] <shmoon> upstart probably just changes the way in which processes are started (asynchronous, fast, fancy, etc...)
[11:10] <Darkchaos> Ok the guys in ##mac say it's because of the GPT. However I am unable to use the MBR then :(
[11:10] <ratata_> can anyone help me? I just installed ubuntu 13.04 and for some reason flash isn't working
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> ratata_: can you pastebin the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[11:14] <nyx__> i just installed kubuntu 13.04 too, takes me a year i guess to understand all :)
[11:16] <ratata_> ActionParsnip: No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 13.04 Release:	13.04 Codename:	raring Linux xxxx 3.8.0-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Tue May 14 22:16:46 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux ii  flashplugin-installer                     11.2.202.285ubuntu0.13.04.1            amd64        Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> ratata_: use a pastebin in future. I DID say to use a pastebin...right?
[11:18] <ratata_> ActionParsnip: oh right, sorry
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> ratata_: please read the FUL text given, it helps a lot
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> ratata_: uninstall flashplugin-installer and enable the partner repo (if needed) you can then install the adobe-flashplugin package
[11:26] <anonymoususer> Does anyone know what this error means http://pastebin.com/SSjePyqw
[11:27] <anonymoususer> It appears after installing miro-6.x's build dependencies for Quantal on 13.04, and building, then running.
[11:27] <BT1664> je voudrez savoir c'est quel version unbutu BT4
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> anonymoususer: why not use the PPA?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> bt1664: ask in #backtrack-linux
[11:28] <DJones> !backtrack | BT1664
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> anonymoususer: you could probably add the PPA then tweak it to use Quantal and install
[11:30] <anonymoususer> ActionParsnip: Irritatingly, the PPA hasn't been uploaded for 13.04.
[11:30] <OerHeks> anonymoususer, miro 6 has a PPA > http://www.iloveubuntu.net/miro-6-released-significant-performance-improvements-and-flash-support  Quantal  supported, Raring not (yet)
[11:30] <anonymoususer> ActionParsnip: I'd be willing to do that as long as it's halfway recommended. Can you point me to how?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> anonymoususer: https://launchpad.net/~motumedia/+archive/libav9-raring   has raring
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> anonymoususer: i'd add te ppa, install miro then remove the ppa
[11:32] <anonymoususer> The PPA isn't available for 13.04.
[11:32] <anonymoususer> Heh.
[11:32] <anonymoususer> What a joke.
[11:32] <anonymoususer> Doesn't matter.
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> anonymoususer: huh?
[11:33] <anonymoususer> ActionParsnip: Forget it.
[11:33] <anonymoususer> Damn new version can't download YouTube feeds any better than the old one.
[11:33] <anonymoususer> So doesn't matter in the slightest.
[11:33] <anonymoususer> Really irritating.
[11:33] <anonymoususer> That was the appeal for me.
[11:33] <Ben64> why not just use a firefox plugin
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> anonymoususer  there's minitube
[11:34] <anonymoususer> Ben64, MonkeyDust: Apples and oranges.
[11:34] <Ben64> yeah, downloading youtube is much different than downloading youtube...?
[11:35] <anonymoususer> Ben64: I suggest you go look up what Miro is.
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> anonymoususer: plz remain polite
[11:36] <anonymoususer> lotuspsychje: Please learn to spell. I've been quite civil.
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> it's for watching tv on your pc, is what i read here
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> anonymoususer: swearing isnt civil
[11:37] <anonymoususer> lotuspsychje: What on earth are you going on about?
[11:38] <vic> AT^CARDLOCK command not  found? any way forward?
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> anonymoususer: <anonymoususer> Damn new version can't download YouTube feeds any better than the old one.
[11:39] <anonymoususer> Oh get bent.
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> anonymoususer: ppl are trying to help you here, plz be respectfull to them
[11:39] <anonymoususer> ActionParsnip: I'll check out the PPA you mentioned as well, though it seems these issues, while claimed to have been fixed back in 5.x, have indeed not been fixed.
[11:39] <anonymoususer> lotuspsychje: I am being respectful to them.
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> anonymoususer: if you want to download youtube feeds, grab an addon or extension fro your web browser
[11:40] <anonymoususer> Though I'm about to start being disrespectful to you, because you're being a mororn.
[11:40] <anonymoususer> Oops, there I go.
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> anonymoususer: if you are wanting to rip the audio there are plenty of websites to do that all for you
[11:40] <DJones> anonymoususer: Enough of that
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:41] <fdr> ickserv identify xpqp386
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> fdr: time for a new password
[11:42] <Ben64> fdr: you should change your password
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> fdr  change your password :)
[11:42] <fdr> yep
[11:42] <fdr> hahaha
[11:42] <greyhat> now ,gdm themes is not work?
[11:42] <fdr> stupid irc client
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> greyhat: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[11:43] <greyhat> i don't know
[11:44] <Tecan> is there anything a guy can do about the cdrom detecting things funny ?
[11:44] <greyhat> it cost lots of time to change theme,i feel tired
[11:45] <greyhat> ubuntu is not as easy as win7
[11:46] <vic> AT^CARDLOCK command not found, way forward?
[11:47] <Ben64> !details | vic
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> greyhat  what version of ubuntu are you using?
[11:48] <greyhat> dd
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> greyhat  dapper drake?
[11:48] <green_geeky_dude> :0
[11:49] <vic> Ben64: i am tying to send a code to a 3g modem using minicom, i tried using AT^CARDLOCK="unlockcode" but i get an error command not found. ubuntu 13.04
[11:50] <greyhat> ActionParsnip  it's a order to look version
[11:50] <greyhat> hh
[11:50] <Ben64> greyhat: open a terminal, type "lsb_release -sc" and paste the result here
[11:50] <greyhat> to look version
[11:51] <Darkchaos> "Apple do not use an SMbus device for power management, which all linux distros assume is present. Apple's proprietary SMC chip forces *all* power management duties onto the host OS, and there are as yet no adequate driver support for the SMC."
[11:51] <Darkchaos> What would you comment on as Ubuntu? Did you handle with it?
[11:51] <Tankado>  I need to find my "<domain:bus:devid.func>" for eth5, how is that possible? , i can see the list in 'lspci' but i cant connect which interface is connected to which pci
[11:51] <greyhat> yes,to look version
[11:52] <greyhat> why make the order so long
[11:53] <greyhat> it
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> greyhat  we need to know what you are using, so we can help or advice better
[11:53] <greyhat> raring
[11:54] <greyhat> it's the nikename of the os
[11:54] <fss09> what is the nikename of the os?
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> it's called a codename
[11:54] <greyhat> nickname
[11:55] <greyhat> ok ,
[11:55] <fss09> upgrade beter or reinstall better?
[11:55] <rurufufuss> what should one use to record the desktop on ubuntu?
[11:55] <rurufufuss> e.g for screencasting
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> rurufufuss  kazam
[11:56] <rurufufuss> alright, wil try that that
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> !screencast
[11:56] <greyhat> who can send me some book about ubuntu
[11:56] <rurufufuss> recordmydesktop has strange behavior
[11:56] <greyhat> how  can i look the doc of the raring
[11:56] <ActionPa1snip> greyhat: are you sure you are not using lightdm and not gdm?
[11:57] <greyhat> i'm don't sure
[11:57]  * MonkeyDust still not sure what greyhat is doing or wants
[11:58] <greyhat> help me change the theme
[11:58] <greyhat> it looks so bad
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> that's it, cosmetics? use unity-tweak-tool
[11:58] <greyhat> yes ,i use it
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> greyhat  good, glad you found it
[11:59] <greyhat> and i put the new.themes in /home/
[11:59] <k1l_> greyhat: get the right theme, put it in ~/.themes and choose them with unity-tweak-tool
[12:00] <ActionPa1snip> greyhat: what is the output of:  dpkg -l | egrep 'lightdm|gdm'   thanks
[12:00] <greyhat> yeah ,i put  gdm theme in new.themes
[12:00] <ActionPa1snip> k1l_: its for the login screen
[12:00] <k1l_> talking about gdm themes.
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> greyhat  what's so hard in putting a theme in the .themes folder, it's a hidden folden in your home
[12:01] <k1l_> greyhat: you need to give that information that its a theme for gdm
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> greyhat  new.themes is not an existing folder
[12:01] <raven> is there a ubuntu touch help channel
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> !touch
[12:01] <raven> thres none on here?
[12:02] <greyhat> yes ,i create a folder with name new.themes
[12:02] <ActionPa1snip> greyhat: what is the output of:  dpkg -l | egrep 'lightdm|gdm'   thanks
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> greyhat  no, you're doing it wrong
[12:02] <connetingggggg> anuone know how to use dsniff
[12:03] <greyhat> it demonstrate lightdm
[12:03] <ActionPa1snip> greyhat: then its not gdm
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> greyhat  there's an existing hidden folder called .themes, that's where you have to put themes
[12:03] <connetingggggg> demostrate?
[12:03] <connetingggggg> lightdm?
[12:03] <connetingggggg> what's that
[12:04] <ActionPa1snip> connetingggggg: probably means 'output'
[12:04] <ActionPa1snip> connetingggggg: lightdm is the app you see when you are logging in
[12:04] <BlueEagle> connetingggggg: Do you have any questions that are not answered in the FAQ? http://www.monkey.org/~dugsong/dsniff/faq.html
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> greyhat  do you even know what a hidden folder is?
[12:05] <greyhat> i have a try
[12:05] <shmoon> hi is it possible to get schroot and debootstrap on mac ? would be helpful
[12:05] <connetingggggg> blueeagleeeeeeeeeee
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> greyhat  what's your native language?
[12:06] <BlueEagle> !tab | connetingggggg
[12:06] <BlueEagle> !enter | connetingggggg
[12:06] <greyhat> chinese
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> greyhat  better ask advice about basics in #ubuntu-cn
[12:06] <connetingggggg> who use dsniff before?
[12:06] <BlueEagle> !ask | connetingggggg
[12:07] <greyhat> can you speak ?
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[12:09] <connetingggggg> why are you so busy with your warning? blueeagle
[12:09] <connetingggggg> who use dsniff?
[12:09] <connetingggggg> before?
[12:09] <kkiitt> greetings room and ubottu, who really is very helpful
[12:10] <OerHeks> connetingggggg, why don't you ask the real question and find out?
[12:10] <k1l_> !details | connetingggggg
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> connetingggggg  just ask your dsniff question and wait for a reply
[12:10] <ActionPa1snip> connetingggggg: try asking your real question instead of flooding the channel with nonsense
[12:10] <connetingggggg> kkitt why are you here?
[12:10] <BlueEagle> connetingggggg: Please read the guidelines. If you want people in here to help you it is not really a good idea to alienate them by acting like you are doing. If you are having issues with dsniff then please state the nature of the issue susinctly and wait for an answer.
[12:10] <ActionPa1snip> !info dsniff
[12:10] <kkiitt> having a look first time irc user
[12:11] <BlueEagle> connetingggggg: The best way to not get help is by not heeding advice from other users.
[12:11] <connetingggggg> i have asked my questionsssssss many timessssssssssss
[12:11] <ActionPa1snip> connetingggggg: all i've seen is you asking who has used it, which isn't helpful to anyone
[12:11] <BlueEagle> connetingggggg: Also, your keyboard seems to have a few stuck keys. Perhaps you should try cleaning it as well?
[12:12] <greyhat> how can you remeber so much order?
[12:13] <ActionPa1snip> connetingggggg: I'm sure many people know about dsniff. The developers in particular will be knowledgable as well as people using it on a regular basis
[12:13] <ActionPa1snip> greyhat: use your mind
[12:13] <greyhat> it's so much
[12:13] <Solarra> are you experts still around?
[12:13] <ActionPa1snip> greyhat: you get used to it
[12:13] <ActionPa1snip> Solarra: just ask
[12:13] <Solarra> followed this guide : http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices
[12:14] <greyhat> yeah ,
[12:14] <theadmin> Is there any sane voice control mechanism in Ubuntu (that'd work with Unity)? Searches lead to gnome-voice-control but that doesn't seem to be in the repos anymore, found some other projects too, mostly dead
[12:14] <Solarra> got the wireless to be fully functional
[12:14] <Solarra> restarted per the guide
[12:14] <Solarra> now the card doesn't even show up now
[12:14] <ActionPa1snip> Solarra: do you dual boot?
[12:15] <Solarra> no
[12:15] <Solarra> not on this machine
[12:15] <BlueEagle> Solarra: Did you forget to add something to /etc/modules ?
[12:15] <Solarra> i don't think so
[12:15] <Solarra> the guide didn't say anything about that
[12:15] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/63743/voice-control-over-desktop-enviornment
[12:15] <BlueEagle> Solarra: If you did a modprobe or depmod as part of the guide then you manually loaded a module. To automatically load it add the name to /etc/modules
[12:16] <greyhat> who can use the backtrack
[12:16] <Solarra> no idea what any of that meant
[12:16] <ActionPa1snip> greyhat: the guys ni #backtrack-linux
[12:16] <k1l_> greyhat: backtrack is not supported in here
[12:16] <greyhat> just ask
[12:16] <ActionPa1snip> greyhat: backtrack is not supported here in any way
[12:17] <ActionPa1snip> Solarra: if you run:   sudo modprobe b43     does it start working?
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> greyhat  were your questions about backtrack, all the time?
[12:17] <Solarra> yes it does
[12:17] <Solarra> im an idiot
[12:18] <zooz> hello guys
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> Solarra  no, it's called 'learning' :)
[12:18] <BlueEagle> Solarra: Then you need to add the module name to /etc/modules :)
[12:18] <ActionPa1snip> Solarra: so you need to run:    echo b43 | sudo tee -a /etc/modules > /dev/null
[12:18] <greyhat> casually ask
[12:18] <Solarra> how do i add that module?
[12:18] <Solarra> so it automatically loads?
[12:18] <ActionPa1snip> Solarra: the command I gave will add it
[12:18] <zooz> got myself a macbook pro retina, the question is have you solved the problem with everything being tiny due to a large resolution screen?
[12:19] <ActionPa1snip> zooz: set a different DPI maybe
[12:19] <BlueEagle> Solarra: As ActionPa1snip already described:  echo b43 | sudo tee -a /etc/modules > /dev/null
[12:19] <zooz> ActionPa1snip, do you know where can I change that?
[12:19] <ActionPa1snip> zooz: depends on the gpu etc, i'm sure there will be a setting someplace
[12:19] <ActionPa1snip> zooz: are there not guides online
[12:20] <theadmin> ActionPa1snip: Tried those, as said, some of them are dead and some don't work with Unity.
[12:20] <Solarra> awesome ActionPa1snip thanks!
[12:20] <zooz> ActionPa1snip, oh, is it a GPU setting, is it?
[12:20] <ActionPa1snip> zooz: its an xorg setting
[12:20] <zooz> ActionPa1snip, thanks, I'll poke around
[12:20] <greyhat> where is the hidden theme
[12:21] <greyhat> i don't know the meaning of the ~/.themes
[12:21] <greyhat> ....
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> greyhat  type ls -a see the hidden themes; or press ctrl-h in nautilus
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> greyhat  type ls -a to see the hidden themes; or press ctrl-h in nautilus
[12:22] <greyhat> ..
[12:22] <theadmin> greyhat: That refers to a file, or a directory, called ".themes", in your home folder, it's hidden though.
[12:22] <theadmin> greyhat: All the themes are accessible from the MyUnity application, however note that some of them result in odd desktop behaviour
[12:23] <Solarra> ok now it won't connect to the wireless network
[12:23] <Solarra> i swear this computer hates me
[12:24] <Solarra> fighting me literally every step of the way
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> Solarra  sue it ;)
[12:24] <Solarra> i know right!
[12:24] <greyhat> i  into the /home /greyhat,and press th e ctrl +h
[12:25] <greyhat> but did't see themes
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> in nautilus or in the terminal?
[12:27] <greyhat> no it is not here
[12:27] <greyhat> i use the ls -a in terminal
[12:28] <sonOfRa> Is there any reason that using sftp:// via nautilus only yields ~600kB/s, while sftp'ing the same file over the command line uses the full available bandwidth?
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> sonOfRa  command line is faster than a GUI
[12:29] <sonOfRa> By 1MB/s?
[12:29] <sonOfRa> what the hell is nautilus doing in the background?
[12:29] <wylde_child> hey guys
[12:29] <wylde_child> how are you doing?
[12:30] <greyhat> wylde_child
[12:30] <greyhat> how are you doing?
[12:30] <wylde_child> i'm fine
[12:30] <theadmin> !ot | greyhat, wylde_child
[12:30] <wylde_child> just started with irc^^
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> sonOfRa  that's why cli is mostly the preferred way to handle things: it's faster
[12:31] <greyhat> yes ,i guess so
[12:31] <wylde_child> !guidelines
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> greyhat  read and learn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal#File_.26_Directory_Commands
[12:41] <lizg> -------
[12:43] <greyhat> thanks MonkeyDust
[12:48] <jnhghy_> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade from ubuntu 10.10 to 12.04, I tried with do-release-upgrade but I get an 404 error and then exist status 1, any workarround for this?
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> jnhghy_  backup and fresh install
[12:51] <jnhghy_> MonkeyDust: only way? can't upgrade from version to version?
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> jnhghy_  or else: 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.11 > 12.04
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> jnhghy_  or else: 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04      <-- correction
[12:51] <ActionPa1snip> jnhghy_: I would do a clean install
[12:51] <jnhghy_> MonkeyDust: yes, this is what I want but whentrying to go to 11.04 I get 404 error
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> jnhghy_  i guess because 11.04 is !eol
[12:53] <jnhghy_> MonkeyDust, because 11.04 is eol the software sources are not in the repo? and have to add them from another source?
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> jnhghy_  !eol means: no longer available
[12:54] <ActionPa1snip> jnhghy_: yes because the Natty repos are disabled
[12:55] <jnhghy_> ActionPa1snip: so what are the sources I need to use? if I remember right ubuntu had a way of upgrading to eol versions .... anybody any idea?
[12:56] <Pici> !eolupgrades | jnhghy_ may this point you in the right direction
[12:57] <jnhghy_> Pici, ActionPa1snip, MonkeyDust, thanks for your help, this seems to be it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[12:57] <ActionPa1snip> jnhghy_: id do a clean install, you will get to the newer version faster and with fewer updates
[12:57] <ra-fi> hi i have tried to install keepnote, but it shows that there is no keepnote software in repository,how can i install keepnote
[12:58] <ActionPa1snip> jnhghy_: you can restore user data from backup, you will also not have the old files from all those versions messing up the OS
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> !info keepnote | ra-fi
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> ra-fi  it's there, what happens when you try to install it?
[12:59] <ActionPa1snip> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/use-evernote-in-ubuntu-with-everpad ra-fi
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> ra-fi  there's also tomboy
[13:03] <ra-fi> ubottu how can i  install
[13:05] <ra-fi> MonkeyDust it just shows nothing i mean when i enter the command to install it just nothing happend
[13:06] <adamk> ra-fi: What command did you run?
[13:06] <ra-fi> adamk sudo apt-get install keepnote
[13:06] <adamk> Well you should have gotten *some* output from that command.
[13:07] <adamk> So pastebin the output.
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> ra-fi  and is it in 13.04 ?
[13:07] <adamk> y
[13:07] <jarrox86> WoW my pidgin IRC works :)
[13:08] <ra-fi> MonkeyDust no i used 12.04
[13:08] <ra-fi> adamk plz see http://pastebin.com/5pwzdCta
[13:08] <tony> hi, im new to this and just wondering, In lvm using snapshot backup. Correct me if im wrong, a lvm snapshot contains the data that change since the snapshot created right. so the original volume is frozen am i right, so if your backing up the snapshot volume. ur backing up volume which is still active or data will change anytime during ur backup
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> !info keepnote precise| ra-fi
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> !info keepnote precise | ra-fi
[13:09] <adamk> ra-fi: You will either have to find a repo with it, or install it manually.  Or upgrade your Ubuntu version.
[13:11] <ra-fi> adamk i used 12.04 version only is it  need to update to futher version?
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> ra-fi  12.04 if you want long support, 13.04 if you want the latest stuff
[13:12] <ra-fi> MonkeyDust http://pastebin.com/DDSYnW6u
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> ra-fi  what is that?
[13:14] <adBrian> mmonat you spelled xmonad wrong
[13:14] <ra-fi> MonkeyDust for the only keepnote apps am i need to upgrade to 13.04? or 13.04 is better in all the way then 12.04
[13:14] <mmonat> adBrian say, what??
[13:14] <adBrian> mmonat, what?
[13:14] <bekks> mmonat: He was trying to make a joke.
[13:15] <adamk> He failed.
[13:15] <adBrian> lol. i still think i'ts funny
[13:15] <mmonat> bekks: too dumb to get the joke
[13:16] <bekks> mmonat: It was a bad joke ;)
[13:18] <farooq> good morning
[13:18] <jarrox86> Dont make jokes , be serious guys! Some expensive hardware could be broken in the process.
[13:18] <ActionPa1snip> farooq: damn!
[13:18] <adBrian> lol, does anyone use mirc in wine?
[13:18] <ActionPa1snip> adBrian: why bother, irssi can do pretty much all the same, and better
[13:18] <farooq> I am trying to install rvm jruby on 13.04
[13:19] <farooq> I have this missing shared objects - libdl.so.1,libm.so.5.2,libstdc++.so.50.0,libstdc++.so.6
[13:19] <farooq> any ideas ?
[13:19] <adBrian> i still haven't figured out how to use it though..
[13:19] <anthony_> hi
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> adBrian  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#IRC_Clients
[13:19] <adBrian> i mean i use Konversation
[13:20]  * adBrian uses Konversation instead of irssi
[13:20] <farooq> anyone know how to get libdl.so.1,libm.so.5.2,libstdc++.so.50.0,libstdc++.so.6 in 13.04 ?
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> !find libstdc | farooq
[13:21] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[13:21] <farooq> @MonkeyDust -  I am not sure I follow. Are you saying to run a find command ?
[13:22] <PrototypeX29A> since my upgrade to 13.04 calling gnome-alsamixer will result in a segmentation fault, that should not happen right?
[13:22] <ActionPa1snip> adBrian: how to use what?
[13:22] <adBrian> irssi
[13:22] <farooq> @ubottu - I will try adding that as a source. I used synaptic to make sure the standard C libraries are there
[13:22] <farooq> I am missing something obvious
[13:23] <ActionPa1snip> adBrian: there are tonnes of guides for the client
[13:23] <adBrian> does it really matter?
[13:23]  * adBrian continues to use Konversation
[13:25] <farooq> @ubottu -
[13:25] <BlueEagle> adBrian: I think you should use what ever makes you feel comfortable, as long as there are no big security issues that put yourself or others at risk.
[13:26]  * adBrian leaves to try irssi
[13:26] <BlueEagle> farooq: ubottu is not a real person, but a robot.
[13:26] <farooq> @BlueEagle - feeling awkward
[13:26] <farooq> thanks -
[13:27] <BlueEagle> farooq: Also, this is IRC not twitter. @ is a symbol for channel operators. On IRC we use the nick name followed by a colon. See also !tab
[13:28] <farooq> got it.
[13:29] <BlueEagle> farooq: Now that we've got that out of the way, why do you need libdl.so.1, libstdc++ and so on? Are you attempting to build something from source?
[13:29] <farooq> BlueEagle: I am trying to install jruby under RVM
[13:30] <farooq> I can install jruby directly with sudo apt-get install jruby -
[13:30] <BlueEagle> farooq: sudo apt-get install ruby-rvm
[13:30] <BlueEagle> farooq: That should work
[13:30] <BlueEagle> farooq: Unless jruby is a different thing completely.
[13:30] <farooq> BlueEagle, quite different
[13:31] <farooq> so when I do locate, I see a bunch of shared objects, but don't understand which is "dependency" etc.
[13:32] <bitnumus> guys, trying to install Adobe Reader on ubuntu, an error about bad package quality
[13:32] <bitnumus> are there any PDF readers in the repos that dont fail on saving form entries?
[13:32] <bekks> bitnumus: acrobat reader.
[13:33] <bitnumus> bekks, i dont see that in repos ?
[13:33] <bitnumus> link me if you dont mind
[13:33] <bekks> bitnumus: It should be in the partner repo.
[13:33] <cnf> right, back to my PAM issues
[13:33] <BlueEagle> farooq: Is there a difference to installing jruby via apt-get and installing it via rvm? When it comes to the final result I mean?
[13:33] <ActionPa1snip> bitnumus: its called acroread
[13:33] <BlueEagle> farooq: I must admit that I'm out of my depth with rvm. :)
[13:33] <bitnumus> ok thanks ill try and grab the DEB from soemwhere
[13:34] <bitnumus> are you aware of the issue with the default PDF viewer?
[13:34] <bitnumus> is it a known bug etc
[13:34] <Kruppt> PrototypeX29A: To see what is causing the segfault you can start the gnome-alsamixer from a terminal with strace , run:  strace gnome-alsamixer in user term
[13:34] <farooq> BlueEagle, thanks for trying to help. The difference is the ability to have different RUBY versions running on the same machine.
[13:34] <cnf> so anyone around that knows how to change PAM so i only affect local console login?
[13:34] <Kruppt> PrototypeX29A: Will give you a clue as to what is causing the problem
[13:35] <bitnumus> ActionPa1snip, nspluginwrapper, isnt this related to wine ?>
[13:35] <ActionPa1snip> bitnumus: no, thats for web plugins like flash
[13:35] <BlueEagle> farooq: There is a channel called #rvm. Perhaps they can shed more light on the issue if nobody here can help.
[13:35] <bitnumus> strange that i didnt already have it installed then
[13:35] <bitnumus> seeing as i use the web plugin
[13:36] <farooq> BlueEagle, thanks sir.
[13:36] <REVO-F> hi..I'm using ubuntu 12.04 how can I upgrade it to ubuntu 13.04
[13:37] <bekks> REVO-F: You have to update to 12.10 and then to 13.04
[13:37] <PrototypeX29A> Kruppt: i don't have a clue, it just happened after my upgrade to 13.04, but i will try strace
[13:37] <REVO-F> bekks, and how do i do it?
[13:37] <velcrow> What's the best way to share my muse and keyboard with another pc running win7?
[13:38] <bekks> REVO-F: using "do-release-upgrade"
[13:38] <ActionPa1snip> velcrow: do you mean have windows control you ubuntu system, or the other way around?
[13:38] <velcrow> ActionPa1snip, Would prefer windows as host
[13:38] <REVO-F> bekks, thanks
[13:38] <ActionPa1snip> velcrow: there also is no single best way, there are simply options
[13:39] <ActionPa1snip> velcrow: you can use rdesktop to connect to the windows pc
[13:39] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys, i'm trying to make a bash command that will concat multiple others with the use of && and the last part requires restarting a service on the server, how can i apped this to the last command ?
[13:39] <velcrow> ActionPa1snip, Im all ears. Tried synergy and it doesnt work well
[13:39] <REVO-F> bekks, it says no new release found..
[13:40] <nibbler_> Wiz_KeeD: foo && bar && service baz restart ?
[13:40] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: cmd1 && cmd2 && service yoursvc restart
[13:40] <Kruppt> PrototypeX29A: That is the reason fro running it with strace, as it will generally give you a clue as to what lib or such is causing the problem and you can try to repair
[13:40] <Wiz_KeeD> remote host, ssh sorry
[13:40] <Wiz_KeeD> forgot to mention
[13:40] <nibbler_> Wiz_KeeD: echo "foo && bar && service baz restart" | ssh user@remotehost ?
[13:40] <ActionPa1snip> !upgrade | REVO-F
[13:40] <velcrow> ActionPa1snip, Any other options?
[13:41] <ActionPa1snip> velcrow: what are yo uwanting to control the windows box to achieve?
[13:41] <Wiz_KeeD> it's accesible only to root, so sudo password must be supplied
[13:41] <Wiz_KeeD> even though i have a ssh key and whatnot, i'm not super-user
[13:41] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: You could ask for the sudo passwd before, using sudo.
[13:42] <nibbler_> Wiz_KeeD: well... just add onother step... edit sudoers to allow this command without password, or read about "expect"
[13:42] <Wiz_KeeD> idk how that works, everything is done locally with scripts that contact the remote application but the restart itself idk how to do
[13:42] <Wiz_KeeD> you think that's "safe" nibbler_ ?
[13:42] <velcrow> ActionPa1snip, I have my mouse and keyboard attached to my win pc, and id like to share those with my ubuntu machine by extending the display
[13:42] <velcrow> ActionPa1snip, Synergy does it, just not too well
[13:42] <Wiz_KeeD> so should i just sudo adduser wiz sudoers ?
[13:42] <PrototypeX29A> Kruppt: i am not an expert in reading the strace log but to me it looks like some return code isn't checked http://pastebin.com/mMBMPe7S
[13:42] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: Nope.
[13:43] <nibbler_> Wiz_KeeD: i don't think at all. thats your job, i have no clue what enviroment, command etc you are talking about. how could i tell? you want it non-interactive, so i guess security is not the main facter anyway
[13:43] <PrototypeX29A> Kruppt: but i cannot really tell a lot from that
[13:43] <Wiz_KeeD> i could just make the service to be in my group
[13:44] <Wiz_KeeD> and make exec available
[13:44] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: Nope. :)
[13:44] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: You really shouldnt do that.
[13:45] <Wiz_KeeD> what's the difference between making the service useable without password and this?
[13:45] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: Security?
[13:45] <Wiz_KeeD> isn't it the same thing? anyway, so best thing for this would be...
[13:46] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: It isnt the same thing, no.
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  *nix is famed for its security, better not disable that
[13:46] <Wiz_KeeD> agreed MonkeyDust
[13:46] <ActionPa1snip> velcrow: yes but why do you want to be able to control the mouse etc?
[13:46] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: The best thing would be to add a line to /etc/sudoers to allow your specific user the execution of one specific command without the need of entering a password.
[13:47] <Kruppt> PrototypeX29A: Yeah, there is not a lot I can do with that either.
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  look what happened on (non-secure) Android phones : malware
[13:47] <Wiz_KeeD> what happened MonkeyDust ? :O
[13:47] <Wiz_KeeD> i'm in sudoers bekks, what now ?:
[13:47] <Wiz_KeeD> :D
[13:47] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: Configure it...
[13:48] <Wiz_KeeD> :)))
[13:48] <bekks> !sudo | Wiz_KeeD
[13:48] <zanetti04> hi!!!
[13:48] <zanetti04> !list
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/05/14/mobile-malware-exploding-but-only-for-android
[13:48] <Wiz_KeeD> reading it now
[13:49] <Wiz_KeeD> bekks, how can i add that special command /etc/init.d/server start stop restart for user wiz?
[13:49] <Kruppt> PrototypeX29A: You may want to run this from a root term:->  apt-get update && apt-get upgrade  <- and see if all is in fact upraded
[13:49] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: Please read the links given by ubottu
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  it's not Android itself, it's the non-secure apps
[13:49] <Wiz_KeeD> IOS had no issues whatsoever?
[13:49] <PrototypeX29A> Kruppt: unlikely, as i just did the upgrade but i will give it a shot
[13:49] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: IOS has a different security model.
[13:50] <PrototypeX29A> Kruppt: ist there an alternative to gnome-alsamixer? there is alsamixer but i cannot select the output device with it
[13:51] <Wiz_KeeD> much better, more restrictive i suppose bekks
[13:51] <Wiz_KeeD> it only shows <username> ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL which i've figured out myself since the sudoers file has this for root
[13:52] <Wiz_KeeD> i just wanted to narrow it down to my user
[13:52] <theadmin> PrototypeX29A: Try pavucontrol, that is if you're using Pulse.
[13:53] <Kruppt> PrototypeX29A: Yes there are several different mixers, I like QasMixer myself
[13:53] <Wiz_KeeD> halp bekks ? :(
[13:53] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[13:53] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: It is described in there, I just checked.
[13:53] <Wiz_KeeD> that's what i've been reading
[13:54] <bekks> Wiz_KeeD: Then you missed something while reading ;)
[13:54] <Wiz_KeeD> mkay
[13:54] <Maple__> Question: If you have a link at /home/username/Desktop/foldername to a folder located at /host/foldername, will space in /home be taken up as well, or only /host?
[13:54] <Maple__> Question: If you have a link at /home/username/Desktop/foldername to a folder located at /host/foldername, will space in /home be taken up as well, or only /host?
[13:54] <Maple__> lag
[13:54] <Maple__> Question: If you have a link at /home/username/Desktop/foldername to a folder located at /host/foldername, will space in /home be taken up as well, or only /host?
[13:54] <Maple__> lag
[13:54] <Maple__> LAG
[13:54] <Maple__> >_<
[13:55] <theadmin> Maple__: You're not lagging, it's just that nobody has replied
[13:55] <PrototypeX29A> theadmin: i never understand the ubuntu archiecture enough to be able to say what i am using
[13:55] <Maple__> no, my connection is laggy as well
[13:55] <llutz> Maple__: space for the symlink-entry will be taken, a few bytes
[13:56] <Maple__> ^ my latest post took ten seconds to appear
[13:56] <PrototypeX29A> theadmin: if i'd find a place that explains it, i would really be happy :D
[13:56] <Maple__> that one took 3
[13:56] <Maple__> D:
[13:57] <ActionPa1snip> Maple__: only space on /host is truly used. The symlink manages it for you :)
[13:57] <Kruppt> PrototypeX29A: You can select between different output devices in alsamixer, read the help file for details,
[13:57] <ActionPa1snip> Maple__: how does writing 'lag' achieve anything at all?
[13:57] <ActionPa1snip> Maple__: besides spamming/scrolling the channel....what is the point exactly?
[13:58] <Pici> Lets just move on.
[14:03] <PrototypeX29A> Kruppt: not really, i can select my external soundcart but the only setting shown there is "Power LED"
[14:04] <Wiz_KeeD> bekks, you are suggesting i remove the password check from my user when sudoing?
[14:04] <gerryy78> http://xemilyratajkowski.blogspot.com/2013/05/emily-ratajkowski-hot-photo-collection.html
[14:05] <Kruppt> PrototypeX29A: When you hit F6 all your available sound devices do not show?
[14:06] <PrototypeX29A> Kruppt: they are shown, but when i select my sound blaster i no channels are shown
[14:07] <Guest51492> hello all i am setting up a laptop with ubuntu 13.04 for a friend. he only wants it fow internet browsing and transfering music to and from his iPhone 4. i have been unable to get itunes to instal through wine or play on linux and am wondering if anybody knows whether there is a way to tranfer music without it.
[14:07] <Guest51492> i do not use iphone or know much about it
[14:07] <thisisdoomtser> hello all . i just installed ubuntu13,04 and i cannot get my HP1012 LaserJet printer to work. is there a way to "downgrade" Cups and HP Drivers to previous version in order to work correctly?
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> Guest51492  try banshee, is what it syas here
[14:10] <Kruppt> PrototypeX29A: Hmm! I wonder if all your modules are actually loaded ...or a driver problem....have you looked at the output of dmesg to see if anything looks off there?
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> Guest51492  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1785844
[14:11] <chvx> is it possible to install the root on the whole disk? is it recommended?
[14:11] <ActionPa1snip> Wiz_KeeD: you can use the sudoers file to allow users to run certain commands without password for sudo (you will still need to use sudo and be in the sudo group)
[14:11] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionPa1snip, can you please tell me how i can allows user wiz to run sudo /etc/init.d/service restart ?
[14:11] <llutz> chvx: possible yes, works too but most people doesn't recommend it (whyever)
[14:11] <ActionPa1snip> chvx: you can if you want a single partition for / then that is fine. You may want to set some swap space thought
[14:11] <ActionPa1snip> *though
[14:12] <ActionPa1snip> Wiz_KeeD: look into the sudoers file
[14:12] <Wiz_KeeD> i am
[14:12] <camila_> I'm looking at the tutorial to know how it works here, but i'm not a english speaker so i'm having a little bit difficult to understand. I have de ubuntustudio 12.04. i need help to install my webcam. what can I do? where can I get some help? tks
[14:12] <Wiz_KeeD> now what?
[14:12] <chvx> ActionPa1snip: i got 6gig RAM
[14:12] <Wiz_KeeD> root    ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[14:12] <jiffe99> I have an ubuntu session open via an nxclient session, anyone know why when I open a terminal and try to run amdconfig it says X needs to be running?
[14:13] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionPa1snip?
[14:13] <bariumbitmap> I have this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/902557 What are my options?
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> jiffe99  is amdconfig a GUI application?
[14:14] <adamk> jiffe99: amdconfig is trying to connect to an X server that is running the catalyst driver. I'm not very familiar with nxclient, but I'd guess that it's not using the catalyst driver since it's a remote session.
[14:14] <satonio> hi. how can i install grub on a mdadm raid5 array so it can boot? grub-install /dev/md125 fails, grub-install /dev/sda fails
[14:14] <thisisdoomtser> hello all . i just installed ubuntu13,04 and i cannot get my HP1012 LaserJet printer to work. is there a way to "downgrade" Cups and HP Drivers to previous version in order to work correctly?
[14:14] <PrototypeX29A> Kruppt: dmesg looks "normal" as far as i can say
[14:15] <jiffe99> adamk: that makes sense
[14:16] <betrayd> PrototypeX29A: search for sound or audio while browsing dmesg
[14:16] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionPa1snip, wiz ALL=NOPASSWD: /etc/init.d/service restart doesn't work
[14:17] <betrayd> PrototypeX29A: with /   <-- to scan and 'n' for next
[14:18] <globe11> d
[14:18] <Kruppt> PrototypeX29A: run lsmod and be sure all  the modules are loaded for your sound devices...
[14:19] <PrototypeX29A> betrayd: nothing that is indicating a problem
[14:19] <PrototypeX29A> Kruppt: how do i know what "all the modules" are?
[14:20] <Kruppt> PrototypeX29A: Also I just remembered something..I it may also be Pulse related.
[14:20] <Wiz_KeeD> now that no password is required to restart the service through ssh
[14:20] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[14:20] <Wiz_KeeD> ssh remote-host || service restart ?
[14:21] <PrototypeX29A> Kruppt: what i did was unplugging and replugging the external soundcard, so the result on dmesg was http://pastebin.com/aFhx3bpe
[14:21] <blob> Hi, how do i rmove a modeline with xrandr ? I've tried --delmode mod it throws me an BadAccess error
[14:21] <llutz> Wiz_KeeD: man ssh (ssh host "cmd goes here")
[14:21] <PrototypeX29A> Kruppt: looks quite ok to me
[14:21] <PrototypeX29A> Kruppt: is there a way to understand the ubuntu sound architecture?
[14:22] <PrototypeX29A> Kruppt: for years now i am stuck with fixing issues i don't understand because it is really weird how that stuff plays together and i never know how to do real diagnostics
[14:22] <adamk> blob: Is this a modeline that was added via xrandr, or one that was autodetected?
[14:22] <blob> adamk: auto
[14:22] <Troy^]> Ok I have an UEFI mobo. It's a laptop it came with windows8. I have installed windows 7 on it non-secure plus it sais its installed as MBR not as UEFI. When i install Ubuntu and also use the boot-repair i can not get into Windows
[14:23] <betrayd> PrototypeX29A: maybe not diagnostics, just run-of-the-mill troubleshooting e.g. I'd run a current liveCD and if gives me sound compare it to the nonworking one
[14:24] <adamk> blob: I'm pretty sure you can only delete modelines that were added with --addmode.
[14:25] <PrototypeX29A> betrayd: i know that it worked just days ago, before i was upgrading to 13.04
[14:25] <PrototypeX29A> betrayd: so obviously the upgrade broke it, but i don't know how to fix it
[14:25] <betrayd> would you still have the liveCD of the prior version?
[14:26] <blob> adamk: what ? but the modline i want to remove is trash and does not work .. the has to be a way .. its causing my monitor to show gibberish
[14:26] <PrototypeX29A> i don't even know whether i have got a working cd drive
[14:26] <DuncanT> Hi. Can anybody confirm whether ia32-libs-multiarch is currently broken in precise due to missing deps? Specifically Depends: libglu1-mesa:i386 but it is not going to be installed
[14:26] <PrototypeX29A> betrayd: if i had, i probably would be running fedora by now :D
[14:26] <adamk> blob: Why don't you just not use that modeline then?
[14:27] <betrayd> PrototypeX29A: with full-on sound :D
[14:27] <PrototypeX29A> i guess :D
[14:28] <blob> adamk: if i start my laptop connected with my secound screen it forces both screens to use the laptop resolution apparently the external one does not like the laptop resolution
[14:28] <betrayd> intel onboard?
[14:28] <adamk> blob: So select a different mode.  Or use an xorg.conf file to specify a PreferredMode.
[14:29] <blob> adamk: although it should work fine with the laptop resolution, i think the syncs are wrong
[14:29] <Kruppt> PrototypeX29A: run lspci -vnn to determine your sound hardware<devices> then use the info there to search for needed info as far as needed modules for sound devices
[14:30] <Kruppt> PrototypeX29A: That looks good there
[14:30] <blob> adamk: im not very sure what i have to write down there
[14:31] <LordXe-gnu> Under unity, is there any way to start a window "docked" (not sure if that's the right term, basically where the window is snapped to the top in my case and the title bar disappears etc)
[14:31] <Kruppt> PrototypeX29A: I take it you did not make a recent backup before the last upgrade ?
[14:32] <blob> adamk: thats what my laptop is using according to xrandr: 1366x768 58.5, my lg has the same 1366x768 58.5 in there
[14:32] <betrayd> LordXe-gnu: think the word is 'pinned'
[14:32] <LordXe-gnu> basically I'm using one of my virtual desktops for VNC and I already made a keybinding to launch it... but I still have to drag it to the top
[14:32] <LordXe-gnu> betrayd, aha, that would explain the lack of google results ;p
[14:33] <betrayd> oh maybe wmctrl is one tool to move/pin it, or devilspie to make a config and nail it everytime
[14:33] <OerHeks> !pinning
[14:34] <betrayd> in a different context
[14:34] <PrototypeX29A> Kruppt: that is true
[14:34] <shmoon> the chroot command accepts an argument --userspec=user:grp, does this user:grp needs to be present inside the jail or outside ?
[14:36] <PrototypeX29A> Kruppt: http://pastebin.com/9eeZzKNV
[14:37] <PrototypeX29A> Kruppt: is that even supposed to list usb devices?
[14:38] <Kruppt> PrototypeX29A: No..lsusb -vnn =-(
[14:38] <PrototypeX29A> oh yes i did it wrong
[14:39] <PrototypeX29A> Kruppt: but it doesn't recognize option n
[14:39] <Lavy> hi all
[14:39] <betrayd> hey there
[14:41] <Kruppt> PrototypeX29A: True just lsusb should suffice
[14:42] <PrototypeX29A> Kruppt: Creative is in there, looking good
[14:43] <GPHemsley> The wiki pages are unclear: Is there any reason I might not want to install the latest version of Ubuntu on an older MacBook Pro?
[14:44] <blob> step1 :  xrandr --newmode "1368x768_60" 85.86 1368 1440 1584 1800 768 769 772 795 -HSync +Vsync   - step 2: xrandr --addmode VGA-0 1368x768_60   - result: X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) WHY ??
[14:44] <laudeci> is there a way to backup all vpn configuration ?
[14:45] <betrayd> are those numbers in the modeline accurate
[14:45] <betrayd> or copied/pasted from somewhere
[14:46] <blob> from a website
[14:46] <Pretto>  /msg NickServ identify 040682
[14:46] <blob> http://www.arachnoid.com/modelines/
[14:46] <betrayd> manufacturers?
[14:46] <OerHeks> Pretto, time to change your password
[14:46] <niel> hahaha
[14:47] <niel> fail
[14:47] <betrayd>  agreed
[14:47] <adamk> blob: Not sure why it failed for you...  Those commands did just work fine here (once I changed VGA-0 to a port I have connected).
[14:47] <Pretto> OerHeks, doesn't need to, it is no my account anyway
[14:48] <Pretto> I've been away for a long time and lost it
[14:48] <betrayd> now 1728 users can help you
[14:48] <betrayd> nah
[14:49] <blob> adamk: man thats bs i kinda get desperate, on win this just works ;//
[14:49] <Olionis1> hello to all
[14:49] <OerHeks> Pretto, i think your account is gone after x months. try #freenode to see if you need to register again
[14:50] <Laudeci> OerHeks, somebody got it when it was expired
[14:50] <Wiz_KeeD> now that i have a long command with &&, how can i place it in just one tiny one that will launch it for me?
[14:50] <Wiz_KeeD> or better yet, since there are 3 comands, call them separately if possible
[14:54] <Gibu> anyone know how to reduce size of icons in application switcher for Ubuntu 12.04
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  nano blahblah, add your commands, save, make executable, done!
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  this is a custom bash file I created that way http://ubuntuone.com/0vs6fLwRcA07lFRUyLn2AU
[15:02] <raven> #touch
[15:02] <raven> :/
[15:03] <raven> can someone link me to the touch channel please
[15:04] <llutz> !touch
[15:05] <raven> can someone link me to the ubuntu touch chat please
[15:05] <th0r> raven: it was the first answer from google
[15:05] <Gibu> anyone know how to reduce size of icons in application switcher for Ubuntu 12.04
[15:06] <blob> so i fond fb.modes on the internet ... are they still used today ?
[15:08] <adamk> blob: fb.modes is only used by fbset, iirc, and has no impact on anything Xorg does.
[15:11] <blob> man I sure hope Xorg dies out like a dinosaur
[15:12] <shmoon> fakechroot vs schroot ?
[15:13] <betrayd> xorg might be the solution thought
[15:13] <betrayd> though*
[15:13] <betrayd> Refusing to use it might be limiting your options
[15:14] <blob> adamk: which nvidia drivers do you have installed ?
[15:14] <adamk> blob: I never said I used the nvidia drivers.
[15:14] <wastrel> hm how do i prevent unity from automatically mounting my phone when i plug it in to usb?
[15:15] <blob> adamk: yeah could it be that nvidia still does not support randr 1.2 ?
[15:15] <Wiz_KeeD> MonkeyDust, and how do yo call the custom bash file after you've created it? or where do you place it?
[15:15] <adamk> blob: It could be.  Last I used nvidia, their 1.2 support was shoddy.
[15:17] <pagios> hello i am trying to export some variables in @reboot in a crotnab, for some reasons these varialbes are not being exported, if i do env > /tmp/myenv.txt the varialbes are not showing there any ideaS?
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  i called it 'systemupdate' (without extension) and placed it in ~/Documents
[15:22] <Wiz_KeeD> so no extension, hmm
[15:23] <Wiz_KeeD> you can place it anywhere or how? MonkeyDust
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  yes
[15:23] <Wiz_KeeD> so i can call it from anywhere
[15:23] <Wiz_KeeD> how does it know that's the bash-script-required?
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  it's executed with sh ~/Documents/systemupdate
[15:25] <Wiz_KeeD> ahhh
[15:25] <Wiz_KeeD> and to have it like custom-script that can be called anywhere?
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  yes, if you specify the path in your command
[15:26] <Wiz_KeeD> without that path i meant
[15:26] <betrayd> place it in a location that's part of $PATH
[15:28] <betrayd>  echo $PATH  <will list where executables should be found
[15:29] <llutz> Wiz_KeeD: create ~/bin and place personal custom scripts there. ~/.profile should add it to your PATH if it exists. so you can call the script from everywhere without giving the path
[15:30] <PrototypeX29A> anyone has an idea where to find a decent description of the ubuntu sound architecture which may guide me to how to debug my current sound card issues?
[15:31] <everestt> Ok, this happens all the time.. why are some icons not showing up in the Alt+Tab switcher!?... take a look at this screenshot http://i44.tinypic.com/2a5kk3.png ...I have the terminal open but it isn't showing up in the switcher. Also the triangle indicator in the launcher is different (isn't filled) for the terminal icon. What's happening?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> PrototypeX29A, maybe we can help , ubuntu sound issues is a real dog's breakfast , but it can be sorted out with time and patience
[15:31] <baldfat> PrototypeX29A: Well sadly to say Audio is still a pain in Linux :(
[15:32] <baldfat> PrototypeX29A: I usually go with alsamixer to see quickly what is wrong
[15:32] <baldfat> PrototypeX29A: sudo apt-get install alsamixer
[15:33] <PrototypeX29A> baldfat: alsamixer is installed, but i cannot see what is wrong, or maybe not understand
[15:33] <PrototypeX29A> BluesKaj: people tried already to help me
[15:33] <baldfat> PrototypeX29A: well open a terminal
[15:33] <BluesKaj> PrototypeX29A, open a terminal type alsamixer
[15:34] <PrototypeX29A> alsamixer let's me choose the right device, but the only thing i can control with alsamixer is the LED
[15:34] <baldfat> than when you look at everything you might have soemthing muted
[15:34] <PrototypeX29A> gnome-alsamixer doesn't even run without segfaulting
[15:34] <PrototypeX29A> baldfat: if it was that simple, i would have already figured it out
[15:34] <baldfat> pavcontrol maybe?
[15:35] <PrototypeX29A> baldfat: waht is that?
[15:35] <baldfat> PrototypeX29A: Just remember we have to start on ground level for some people the next step was to check your device
[15:35] <BluesKaj> PrototypeX29A, run aplay -l in the terminal , and paste the first line that outputs
[15:35] <baldfat> PrototypeX29A: it is a pulse audio mixer
[15:35] <PrototypeX29A> BluesKaj: i have sound, but it is the wrong device
[15:35] <baldfat> Do what BluesKaj said first
[15:36] <Wiz_KeeD> what the hell is redirection unexpected?
[15:36] <PrototypeX29A> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/RAP7NNq7
[15:37] <PrototypeX29A> it obviously uses card 0, which is my onboard audio chip
[15:37] <PrototypeX29A> i want to use my external soundblaster
[15:37] <baldfat> Wiz_KeeD: depends on the context
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> PrototypeX29A  here too: segfaut whe launching gnome-alsamixer, looks it's a !bug
[15:37] <BluesKaj> pro so you want the USB soundcard as default , pro
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> typos ^^^^
[15:38] <BluesKaj> PrototypeX29A,^
[15:38] <baldfat> I really would suggest apt-get install pavcontrol   It is my go to program for controling different outputs. I use it for my bluetooth headphone
[15:38] <PrototypeX29A> MonkeyDust: my guess from strace is, that the segfault only occurs, because some return value isn't checked, that shouldn;t fail in the first place
[15:38] <everestt> (continued..) Figured it out... it happens when the application window is in a different workspace... changed to another workspace and back and it's working now... but the terminal window wasn't in another workspace to begin with.. weird... but at least I can make the icon appear in the switcher!
[15:39] <PrototypeX29A> BluesKaj: yes, but it doesn't seem to be accessible
[15:39] <BluesKaj> baldfat, yes good suggestion , but we need to make his usb card default first
[15:40] <BluesKaj> PrototypeX29A,  install pavucontrol
[15:40] <PrototypeX29A> baldfat: are you sure with the spelling of the package, i don't find it
[15:40] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> how can I find the dependency for: libmagick++4
[15:40] <PrototypeX29A> ok with u: pavucontrol it is already installed
[15:41] <BluesKaj> PrototypeX29A, then open it and set the outputs to your usb card if it's listed in the dropdown
[15:41] <baldfat> PrototypeX29A: It is a gui program just launch it
[15:41] <aco> yo
[15:41] <foofoobar> Hi. I installed ubuntu-13.04 on my macbook7,1. First I had problems when halting/rebooting, which had not worked. I then installed the nvidia proprietary driver and halting/shutdown worked. Now I switched from unity to i3wm as a window manager. Halting/Rebooting again does not work, what do I have to do know?
[15:41] <baldfat> PrototypeX29A: Has a tab for outputs and you will see if your external is there
[15:42] <aco> sorry to interruptr guys but what line do i type to join another room
[15:42] <foofoobar> aco, usually /join #roomname
[15:42] <PrototypeX29A> baldfat: it is there but i cannot make it play sound
[15:42] <aco> ok, thanks
[15:43] <baldfat> PrototypeX29A: but you can send sound to it?
[15:43] <PrototypeX29A> baldfat: i am not sure whether i get the question correctly
[15:43] <PrototypeX29A> baldfat: i am playing sound (through internal speakers) and then select the Soundblaster
[15:44] <PrototypeX29A> oh wait
[15:44] <PrototypeX29A> i can select it with playback
[15:45] <baldfat> PrototypeX29A: NICE
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> odd: when I plugin the external HDD (USB), it opens Totem mediaplayer for every video on it - I then close Totem and browse the HDD, but it shouldnt happen in the first place
[15:45] <PrototypeX29A> baldfat: i know have sound on my headphone, but i don't know why
[15:45] <olivier> my brother is going to buy a new laptop. he wants to use Ubuntu but it also needs to support Windows. Do you guys know what laptops are superb with Ubuntu?
[15:45] <baldfat> MonkeyDust: It is somehow tied to your default program for when it is plugged in. Answer depends on your DE or WM of choice
[15:45] <ActionPa1snip> olivier: system76 :)
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> !hardware | olivier start here
[15:46] <olivier> I know System76 is awesome, but they only support Ubuntu :P
[15:46] <PrototypeX29A> baldfat: well thanks, but still i would love to have a decent description of the ubuntu sound architecture to fix those problems myself the next time :/
[15:46] <ActionPa1snip> !hcl | olivier
[15:46] <ActionPa1snip> same
[15:46] <PrototypeX29A> baldfat: and gnome-alsamixer still segfaults
[15:46] <baldfat> PrototypeX29A: Well it is a deep pool. I use to be a sound enginer and everything is so different
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> baldfat  13.04 with Unity
[15:47] <baldfat> I wouldn't worry about alsamixer just read on Pulse Audio reading it at archlinux.org/wiki is your best documentations
[15:47] <PrototypeX29A> baldfat: still it should be possible to understand sound under ubuntu
[15:47] <baldfat> PrototypeX29A: You have to understand Pulse Audio
[15:47] <BluesKaj> PrototypeX29A, ok open a terminal , run : sudo update-usbids , then run ,
[15:47] <BluesKaj> sudo gstreamer-properties (A GUI will open)
[15:47] <BluesKaj> (After configuring a reboot may be in order)
[15:48] <baldfat> PrototypeX29A: ^ That will help the gnome issue
[15:48] <baldfat> <--- Hates gnome :)
[15:48] <PrototypeX29A> baldfat: i can found documentation to pulseaudo, but not how it is used in ubuntu
[15:48] <baldfat> ubuntu uses pulse audio
[15:49] <BluesKaj> ok , no point ...too many cooks .. PrototypeX29A read my last post above , it might work for you
[15:49] <PrototypeX29A> BluesKaj: i did that, except for the reboot
[15:50] <nitai> hello there, I have a wifi problem with ubuntu 12.04 on my netbook. is anyone out there who can help me... please? :)
[15:50] <PrototypeX29A> baldfat: i don't think that is a gnome issues. except that it should never segfault, but give a proper error message
[15:50] <BluesKaj> did a gui pop up PrototypeX29A?
[15:50] <PrototypeX29A> BluesKaj: yes
[15:50] <ActionPa1snip> nitai: what wifi chip are you using?
[15:50] <PrototypeX29A> BluesKaj: the test seems to work
[15:50] <BluesKaj> did you configure your usb setting
[15:51] <PrototypeX29A> i did run the command you told me
[15:51] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> how do i install  libmagick++4 for ubuntu 13.04 ?
[15:51] <olivier> if a laptop is Ubuntu Certified, does that also mean that the video card is optimally used? I don't see it in this list: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/test-suite/
[15:51] <BluesKaj> ok PrototypeX29A then you'll have to reboot to make the gstreamer setings stick
[15:52] <nitai> ActionPa1snip: how can I figure that out again?
[15:53] <PrototypeX29A> BluesKaj: i will try that
[15:56] <nitai> ActionPa1snip: it's not like, that i don't have a connection.. it's just, when i am connected to the wifi, all other devices connected to it, cannot use the internet anymore. like the ubuntu netbook is always sending and doesn't let others talk
[15:56] <ActionPa1snip> nitai: sudo lshw -C network
[15:58] <nitai> ActionPa1snip: http://pastebin.com/N86ArbaE
[15:58] <cstar__> anyone for a nfs question >
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> cstar__  i'm somewhat familiar with it
[15:59] <she_dyed> just ask cstar
[15:59] <cstar__> i have created my shares but when i do showmount it does not list anything
[16:00] <ActionPa1snip> nitai: tried with wicd instead of network manger, may help. You will need to reboot after the install of wicd and removal of network manager
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> cstar__  you have to export them in /etc/exports on the remote machine
[16:00] <ActionPa1snip> cstar__: what OS is sharing the NTFS?
[16:00] <PrototypeX29A> BluesKaj: still segfaulting
[16:00] <GPHemsley> Does anyone know if it's safe to install the latest Ubuntu on an old (Intel) MacBook Pro?
[16:00] <ActionPa1snip> cstar__: sorry, nfs
[16:00] <ActionPa1snip> GPHemsley: should be ok
[16:01] <ActionPa1snip> !nfs | cstar__
[16:01] <wastrel> did you do showmount -e <nfs server>  ?
[16:01] <nitai> ActionPa1snip: ok.. already tried to install wicd, but did not remove the network-manager yet.
[16:01] <GPHemsley> ActionPa1snip: Do you happen to know why the help wiki only suggests older versions of Ubuntu? Is it just what has been officially tested?
[16:01] <cstar__> yes it shows nothing for listed host
[16:01] <BluesKaj> PrototypeX29A, remove gnome-alsmixer , and install alsa-base and alsa-utils
[16:01] <cstar__> although there are shares created
[16:01] <PrototypeX29A> BluesKaj: i am not really sure where you are heading
[16:01] <cstar__> even showmount -e on localhost shows same
[16:02] <BluesKaj> err gnome-alsmixer
[16:02] <PrototypeX29A> BluesKaj: because it is running now, my only problem is that i still don't understand it
[16:02] <she_dyed> yeah PrototypeX29A's getting sound now all sorted
[16:02] <BluesKaj> PrototypeX29A, we're replacing a gnome specific app with a generic
[16:03] <PrototypeX29A> my only issue is that i don't understand what es happening, and after every other upgrade it is broken again and someone will tell me to use another thing, what i then will do until it breaks again
[16:03] <PrototypeX29A> BluesKaj: alsamixer and qasmixer have issues too, i dont think it is a gnome problem
[16:03] <BluesKaj> PrototypeX29A, how do you mean running ..is the audio working ?
[16:04] <aco> hey guys quick question, how couldd i bind a key to open a internet link in a new window..having some  trouble looking it up
[16:04] <PrototypeX29A> BluesKaj: yes, it is
[16:04] <wastrel> aco: like middle click the link ?
[16:04] <she_dyed>  blueskaj think after using pavucontrol
[16:04] <PrototypeX29A> she_dyed: correct
[16:04] <wastrel> i guess that's new tab
[16:05] <aco> pretty much though im on a laptop
[16:05] <ActionPa1snip> nitai: you cannot have both :)
[16:05] <PrototypeX29A> she_dyed: i cannot really tell the difference between all of the alsamixers and the pulseaudio one, though
[16:05] <aco> so i wanted o know if a kb key could do it
[16:05] <aco> sorry open in new tab***
[16:06] <she_dyed> PrototypeX29A yeah i can see now how it can get confusing
[16:06] <hongoBlow> hello
[16:06] <ActionPa1snip> GPHemsley: they will probably fly with newer. I have seen 12.04 mac guides, depends on the actual model
[16:06] <aco> so open a link i find on the net in a new tab - using a key
[16:06] <PrototypeX29A> since i use ubuntu using sound really is a pain, and i never get it because i cannot find any decent documentation on how ubuntu uses Pulseaudio, alsa etc.
[16:06] <nm_nm> How is that possible that some one can ban other from the entire IRC network?
[16:06] <GPHemsley> ActionPa1snip: I have a MacBookPro3,1
[16:07] <BluesKaj> well PrototypeX29A  if pavucontrol is set and you have audio working , then you should be fine ...pulseaudio is a sound sewrver that rides on top of alsa and is used to set input and outputs on your soundcard
[16:07] <ActionPa1snip> aco: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=658860
[16:07] <PrototypeX29A> BluesKaj: is there any decent description of the architecture?
[16:07] <she_dyed> PrototypeX29A might be a good reference to start https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio
[16:07] <BluesKaj> !alsa | PrototypeX29A
[16:08] <BluesKaj> !pulseaudio | PrototypeX29A
[16:08] <PrototypeX29A> she_dyed: thanks, though i guess i crawled through that already
[16:08] <ActionPa1snip> GPHemsley: could always use USB first to test, or liveCD
[16:08] <PrototypeX29A> i will try again
[16:09] <nitai> ActionPa1snip: ok, now i removed network-manager... and it is nearly impossible to use that tool
[16:09] <nitai> ActionPa1snip: every time i try to get a connection the programm freezes and crashes
[16:10] <shorty40hands> im having trouble with the signing of the COC both in command line and in the COC app assistant freezes on page 4 if anyone can help me through this please shoot me a pm. ty
[16:11] <nitai> ActionPa1snip: the moment i try to enter the wlan key i cannot confirm the window.. if i try to close it, wicd crashes
[16:11] <ActionPa1snip> nitai: i see, ok then reverse the change :)
[16:16] <dominic_> question
[16:17] <dominic_> my terminal doesnt work
[16:18] <ActionPa1snip> dominic_: thats not a question
[16:18] <ActionPa1snip> dominic_: its a statement
[16:19] <guest12345> hello, i am a noob
[16:19] <ActionPa1snip> dominic_: can you expand on "doesn't work" please
[16:19] <shorty40hands>  please help im having trouble with the signing of the COC both in command line and in the COC app assistant freezes on page 4 if anyone can help me through this please shoot me a pm. ty
[16:19] <ActionPa1snip> shorty40hands: the guys in #launchpad may be able to help
[16:20] <guest12345> need help to install ubuntu for tp-link tl-wn851nd wireless card
[16:21] <ActionPa1snip> guest12345: what wifi chip does it use?
[16:21] <shorty40hands> its not a launchpad issue i dont believe the terminal has already taken the pass phrase and locked it in and i cant adjust the passphrase to finish the command it errors
[16:21] <ActionPa1snip> guest12345: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network      you will be shown
[16:22] <ActionPa1snip> shorty40hands: the guys will be able to advise the method, you can  ask in both....
[16:22] <shorty40hands> ok thank you i was trying to get on a bug team but the coc issue is stopping me
[16:23] <wastrel> so confuse
[16:23] <dominic_> action palsnip it opens but i cant right into it
[16:26] <betrayd> you must have accidentally it
[16:26] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> Help with error in encfs, the encrytpion is working. i do "encfs ~/.encrypted ~/Private" it works, put files in, and do "fusermount -u ~/Private", and reopen it and files are there, BUT......
[16:26] <dominic_> actionpalsnip do you know
[16:27] <devon> t
[16:27] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> while mounted i try and use an are program to open a pic in Private and i get an error, then when i close the art program and use Files the error is still there....
[16:28] <dominic_> someone knows why i cant write in my terminal
[16:28] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> between the art program and Files the error message is a bit different but they both say "Transport endpoint is not connected", and when i close the encfs the error is perminale when reopen
[16:29] <betrayd> dominic even when you put the mouse on it?
[16:29] <dominic_> yes
[16:30] <betrayd> dominic it isn't completely blank is it
[16:30] <shorty40hands> dominic can you copy and paste a simple command in it
[16:30] <dominic_> i dont see the first name when it open
[16:30] <James_Epp> How can I mount an iso file? I cannot get mount -o loop iso.iso /media/iso to work
[16:31] <dominic_> no copy and paste
[16:31] <dominic_> its just black
[16:31] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> Unhandled error message: Error when getting information for file '/home/roy/Private': Transport endpoint is not connected
[16:31] <jrib> !iso | James_Epp
[16:31] <jrib> James_Epp: what happens when you try?
[16:31] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> using encfs
[16:32] <James_Epp> jrib: I did precisely that command, and got the following: http://imgur.com/QopR7rw
[16:32] <dominic_> i can right click for option on it
[16:32] <James_Epp> jrib: And the destination mountpoint does exist
[16:33] <jrib> James_Epp: 1) make sure your file is actually an iso 2) try specifying the type
[16:33] <hemangpatel> Hello ubuntu guys
[16:33] <James_Epp> jrib: I burn this iso all the time. How can it NOT be an iso?
[16:33] <shorty40hands> dominic when you right click do you get input methods as an option?
[16:34] <dominic_> yes
[16:34] <dominic_> system ibus has a dot
[16:35] <James_Epp> jrib: If I do 'mount iso.iso /media/iso -t iso9660 -o loop
[16:35] <shorty40hands> good
[16:35] <shorty40hands> now profile
[16:35] <shorty40hands> default?
[16:35] <dominic_> yes
[16:35] <shorty40hands> your logged in as root user?
[16:35] <dominic_> i dont know
[16:35] <James_Epp> jrib: If I specify the -t iso9660 I get "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0"
[16:36] <shorty40hands> ok 1 second
[16:36] <jrib> James_Epp: try -t udf,iso9660
[16:36] <James_Epp> jrib: Same error message.
[16:36] <jrib> James_Epp: paste your command
[16:36] <Mrokii> Hello. How can I communicate with Update-Manager via Python? So that I can get infos about available updates for example?
[16:36] <James_Epp> jrib: For a little context, I torrented the ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[16:37] <James_Epp> jrib: (as root) mount ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso /media/ubuntu/i386 -t udf,iso9660 -o loop
[16:37] <hemangpatel> What's this ? www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc
[16:37] <shorty40hands> out of curiosity dominic have you cleared and reset the terminal to see if it fixes
[16:37] <jrib> James_Epp: I don't think it matters, but to make sure, specify the file and device last
[16:37] <James_Epp> by 'device' what do you mean?
[16:37] <dominic_> i have reset my computer
[16:38] <jrib> James_Epp: list the two paths last
[16:39] <k1l_> hemangpatel: this is a technical support channel. that topic doesnt fit in here. better try #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:39] <shorty40hands> just try clearing and reseting the terminal in your task bar out of curiosity
[16:39] <James_Epp> jrib: Using "mount -t udf,iso9660 -o loop ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso /media/ubuntu/i386/" returns the same error
[16:39] <jrib> James_Epp: what is the output from "file ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso"
[16:39] <James_Epp> jrib: data
[16:40] <dominic_> doesnt work
[16:40] <shorty40hands> ok worth the shot
[16:40] <jrib> James_Epp: you probably don't have a proper download. Verify the checksum of your file
[16:40] <jrib> !hashes | James_Epp
[16:40] <dominic_> it does work something but i dont see it
[16:42] <James_Epp> jrib: md5sum file  , correct?
[16:42] <jrib> James_Epp: yes
[16:43] <rpbo_> I'm having a hard time configuring a pptp client. $route -n shows the gateway for the ppp0 interface as 0.0.0.0. Could that be my problem?
[16:43] <dominic_> i can write in the terminal but i dont see it
[16:43] <James_Epp> jrib: I will re-download it, but this makes no sense. On my windows computer, I torrented the .iso. I then FTP'd it to this computer, so why would this screw up?
[16:43] <jrib> James_Epp: check the md5sum on your windows computer
[16:43] <Roy_Newbie_13-04> how do i tell what version of FUSE im using?
[16:44] <James_Epp> jrib: How do I do that? :S
[16:44] <shorty40hands> dominic i found some info for you with a link that should help you i will post them in a pm
[16:45] <jrib> !md5sum | James_Epp
[16:45] <jrib> James_Epp: I think there's a windows tool mentioned in that link
[16:46] <James_Epp> md5sum not recognized as interneal/external command. Fuck it, I'm re-downloading. What bull.
[16:46] <IdleOne> !language | James_Epp
[16:46] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> .
[16:47] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> how do i tell what version of fuse i have
[16:47] <jrib> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: can I ask why you want to know?
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04  apt-cache policy fuse
[16:47] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> cause im getting an error with encfs
[16:48] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> done research and they say it relates to fuse
[16:48] <hemangpatel> How does ubuntu supports all hardwares ?
[16:48] <jrib> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: you might consider using ecryptfs since it's used by default in ubuntu.  But if you're tied to encfs, did you install the repository version?  Check for open bugs?
[16:50] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> jrib, at the moment not tied to it, just working with non important files brfore i really use it
[16:50] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> jrib the error came about when i had a pic in it and uded an editor to open the pic
[16:51] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> im setting this up for a friend, does ecryptfs have a gui
[16:52] <jrib> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: what's your goal?  You can just have all of the user's home encrypted pretty easily
[16:53] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> jrib now everything, just a folder that can be placed anywhere, orher house hold members use this to, and he only wants one user account
[16:53] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> not* everything
[16:53] <jrib> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: you can also just create a directory, by default it winds up being ~/.Private
[16:53] <jrib> maybe ~/Private without the '.' :)
[16:54] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> jrib this is what im using so far encfs ~/.encrypted ~/Private
[16:54] <jrib> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: right, that's encfs.  You can instead use ecryptfs
[16:54] <jrib> I'm pretty sure they are different?
[16:55] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> jrib ecryptfs is not installed so what do u mena its used by default by ubuntu
[16:55] <jrib> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: if you choose to encrypt homes during install, that's what gets used
[16:55] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> not the home
[16:56] <jrib> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[16:56] <jrib> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: what do you mean by "not the home"?
[16:56] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> dont want the whole home encrypted
[16:56] <jrib> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: yes, I know.
[16:57] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> taking a look at he link now, any other advice
[16:57] <jrib> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: just what I said before, if you want to use encfs then make sure you installed it through the repositories and check for open bugs at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[16:58] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> i did apt-get install encfs, is that the proper way u mean
[17:01] <smO3000> Any reason why Metadata and photos attach to thumbnail links when I link a site directly to my server using facebook but when I use the domain that forwards to my server no metadata is attached? Is this a problem with the .com provider?
[17:03] <vitimiti> hi o/
[17:08] <oldsk00l> hei
[17:10] <k1l_> !away > awe|lunch
[17:11] <subz3r0> k1l_: just give him a sec... next he will inform us when hes taking a shower...
[17:16] <betrayd> he showers?
[17:17] <hemangpatel> Hello
[17:18] <betrayd> Hey there
[17:19] <hemangpatel> My laptop comes with windows 7.. i tried to install ubuntu with windows. i installed grub in /boot partition . and added entry in boot loader of windows. when i did restart i got two option. But when i select ubuntu it only comes with grub2 command line
[17:19] <hemangpatel> this is the problem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting#grub.3E-1
[17:20] <James_Epp> jrib: So I re-torrented the files, and did a md5 on the windows machine, and got the proper sum. If I ftp the file over to the other machine and perform the md5sum again, I get a completely different result. I am confused, but whatever.
[17:21] <hemangpatel> I don't get much idea from doc
[17:21] <hemangpatel> can anyone tell me why this happens ?
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> hemangpatel  is that a wubi installation, inside windows?
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> hemangpatel, Can you run the bootinfo summary found here alone from a live cd and post the url. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:23] <camilo_> Speech Control for ubuntu 13.04  Xfce
[17:23] <hemangpatel> wilee-nilee : i tried that but it overwrite my mbr..
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> hemangpatel, The bootinfo summary only generates a script of what the setup is.
[17:23] <hemangpatel> MonkeyDust : no dual boot. installation from USB (LILI)
[17:23] <camilo_> how to install Speech Control for ubuntu 13.04  Xfce
[17:24] <camilo_> help me
[17:24] <SuperBawlz> my launcher and menu bar have disappeared. Need advice on getting them back
[17:24] <hemangpatel> wilee-nilee : right now dont have laptop turn on :(
[17:24] <hemangpatel> I got same screen like this , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting#grub.3E-1
[17:24] <wilee-nilee> hemangpatel, Fine without details though help is not very good.
[17:25] <hemangpatel> wilee-nilee : yeah i know
[17:25] <hemangpatel> wilee-nilee : may be you can get idea from link
[17:29] <wastrel> SuperBawlz: can you launch a terminal with ctrl-alt-t ?
[17:29] <wastrel> SuperBawlz: do you have window decoration?  (titlebar, scrollbars)
[17:32] <Phoenixxl> Hello, I have a question regarding network setup for ubuntu installed over iscsi . As it is now , i'ts been working as it should for ages .. /network/interfaces has the nic as "manual"
[17:32] <Phoenixxl> My issue is , I need to make that interface a bridge...
[17:33] <Phoenixxl> I'm sure it will lose it's information regardiing ip etc ..
[17:34] <wakeup> hi
[17:34] <rebellion> open
[17:34] <wakeup> How do I start the network configuration GUI thing from the command line?
[17:34] <wakeup> (lucid)+
[17:35] <k1l_> wakeup: 10.04 lost the desktop support at beginning of may
[17:35] <|s-a|> wakeup , nm-applet
[17:35] <wakeup> k1l_: I know, I am stil stuck with it
[17:35] <k1l_> !rootirc > rebellion
[17:36] <wakeup> |s-a|: thank you
[17:36] <JoeyJoeJo> I can't umount a compact flash card because my system says it's in use. I check lsof and didn't see anything about it there. What else should I check to see what's using it?
[17:36] <kdub> JoeyJoeJo, fuser maybe
[17:37] <nk> unable to install 12.04
[17:37] <nk> grub error15
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> JoeyJoeJo  try this           fuser -m [mountpoint]
[17:38] <nk> centos magiea all working onsame pc
[17:39] <JoeyJoeJo> I tried fuser -km /mnt but that didn't work. Then I tried fuser -km /dev/sdb1. That was a mistake :)
[17:39] <Phoenixxl> here are is my current interfaces file , and what I think might be logical , but not sure it is right : http://pastebin.com/rUdynvF8
[17:41] <Phoenixxl> i'm at a loss , google is holding out on me.
[17:41] <DONKEEZ> how do downgrade my kernel to get my audio working again?
[17:42] <jeditransistor> Hi
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> DONKEEZ  don't downgrade, look for a different solution
[17:42] <DONKEEZ> how do i boot into 2d by default?
[17:43] <Phoenixxl> @DOINKEEZ did your audio work when you booted usung the previous kernel in grub ?
[17:43] <jeditransistor> On the login screen, select 2d. Should stick from there
[17:43] <wilee-nilee> DONKEEZ, Have you modified grub, hence keeping you from a shift tap to bring it up?
[17:43] <DONKEEZ> Phoenixxl yes
[17:44] <DONKEEZ> jeditransistor - id doenst stick have to select it each time
[17:44] <BAMbanda> for some reason, on my ubuntu server vm, I only have a loopback interface installed
[17:44] <BAMbanda> everytime i type "ifconfig" I can't see eth0 or wlan0 or anything else
[17:46] <Mo0O> hello
[17:46] <eagle_> hi
[17:46] <Mo0O> hos to know if a font is install?
[17:46] <Mo0O> eagle_: hi
[17:46] <Mo0O> installed*
[17:47] <Phoenixxl> @ DONKEEZ sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[17:47] <bean__> BAMbanda: what about "ifconfig -a" your eth0 is likely not configured.
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> DONKEEZ, Look at "Change the default boot option" here http://linuxpoison.blogspot.tw/2010/11/how-to-change-grub-2-default-timeout.html
[17:47] <Phoenixxl> change grub_default
[17:47] <k1l_> Phoenixxl: DONKEEZ dont use sudo with gui programs
[17:48] <DONKEEZ> ok
[17:48] <Phoenixxl> sudo update grub
[17:48] <BAMbanda> bean__: I see eth1 but no address on it
[17:48] <bean__> BAMbanda: then you need to set it up in /etc/network/interfaces
[17:48] <zoltan81> hi all!
[17:48] <BluesKaj> Phoenixxl, why is your inet set to manual in the interfaces file , just curious ...never used that setting before , it's usually either dhcp or static'
[17:48] <bean__> BAMbanda: if there's an eth1 and no eth0 I assume this server is a cloned box?
[17:48] <wakeup> |s-a|: do you by any chance know the counterpart of nm-applet for
[17:48] <wakeup> battery life?
[17:49] <Phoenixxl> eth1 is the in,terface that has iscsi initiator running on it
[17:49] <BAMbanda> in the /etc/network/interfaces i see eth0, but not eth1
[17:49] <Phoenixxl> it gets it's ip from pre-boot
[17:49] <BAMbanda> bean__: its not cloned
[17:49] <bean__> BAMbanda: then change the eth0 to eth1
[17:49] <|s-a|> wakeup , nm = network Manager
[17:49] <Phoenixxl> there are 2 nics
[17:50] <Phoenixxl> eth0 now br0 is my primary interface ,
[17:50] <zoltan81> just tried out, by
[17:50] <zoltan81> e
[17:50] <Phoenixxl> eth1 which has to become br1 is the interface running iscsi initiator
[17:50] <Phoenixxl> there is nothing clones
[17:50] <wakeup> |s-a|: I know, but what is the commannd that launched the battery
[17:50] <wakeup> tray thing
[17:51] <BAMbanda> bean__: do I need to reboot?
[17:51] <|s-a|> wakeup , not sure i don't have ubuntu , i think in gnome 3 it is an extension
[17:52] <Naddiseo> Can I get some help triaging bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1178000
[17:52] <DONKEEZ> what program do i use from the terminal to edit the grub2 config that isnt sudo ing a gui program?
[17:53] <gordonjcp> DONKEEZ: sudo vi ?
[17:53] <Phoenixxl> @donkeez if you're not familiar with shells , ignore what i said
[17:53] <umc> I did an upgrade from 10.04.4 LTS to 12.04 LTS... bind seems to be the first victim. can anyone point me to the right logs where I could see what the problem is so I can search for a fix ? not even sure where to look...
[17:53] <DONKEEZ> clams or shotgun?
[17:53] <bean__> BAMbanda: unlikely, just bring up the interface
[17:53] <Phoenixxl> @donkeez safest to select it at boot each time , and hope its gets fixed next update
[17:54] <bean__> BAMbanda: ifup eth1
[17:54] <BAMbanda> bean__: I got the interface up and I got an IP address, but I can't ping google.com
[17:54] <bean__> do you have resolvers set up? is your gateway correct?
[17:55] <Phoenixxl> BAM: ifdown again and try a dhclient eth1
[17:55] <DONKEEZ> im using vi
[17:55] <theseb> help!.. puzzle....thinkpad stopped booting with a "Operating System not found" error....I made sure boot sequence had CD-ROM 1st then HD......I also tried booting a live CD....it just spins.....what could have caused HD and CD booting to both fail at same time?? how?x
[17:55] <BAMbanda> bean__: My ubuntu server is on NAT, and my host has internet access
[17:55] <Phoenixxl> @donkeez try pico
[17:56] <bean__> BAMbanda: okay, can you ping 4.2.2.1?
[17:57] <BAMbanda> bean__: No I can't ping it. It hasn't responded and its taking too long
[17:57] <sere> theseb: is the bios even seeing the devices
[17:57] <BAMbanda> bean__: What is that?
[17:57] <maxmc> Hi. If I press ctrl-c on my external keyboard, it does not work (ctrl-v does not paste the copied string) but the ctrl-x works fine. on my notebook keyboard everything works as it should.  Any ideas what could be wrong? I use ubuntu 12.04lts
[17:57] <bean__> BAMbanda: a resolver on the internet that is pingable always.
[17:57] <bean__> BAMbanda: what does your /etc/network/interfaces look like?
[17:58] <theseb> sere: yes
[17:58] <bean__> and what is the output of "ifconfig eth1" BAMbanda. Please pastebin them
[17:59] <DONKEEZ> the grub timeout is already 10 seconds that should be plenty of time to push the SHIFT key
[18:00] <DONKEEZ> ps pico is much better, :q might have been the only vi command i remember from school
[18:00] <Mikita_Fan> So, I am trying to figure out why I can't open my software center in Ubuntu. Every time I try to open it, I get an error and it closes.
[18:00] <BAMbanda> bean__: Major problem, my sudo password isn't working...how do i reset?
[18:00] <bean__> BAMbanda: heh, you'd have to reboot into a recovery console, or any other manner of doing that
[18:00] <sere> theseb: i dunno? i dont think its grub its to early..and the cdrom should always be bootable...you could try a usb hdd boot?
[18:00] <bean__> !password | BAMbanda
[18:01] <DONKEEZ> anyone know how to set unity 2d to boot as default
[18:02] <Phoenixxl> @DONKEEZ sorry i don't use a gui
[18:04] <Phoenixxl> So... can anyone help me with my ISCSI / interfaces issue ? http://pastebin.com/rUdynvF8
[18:05] <Mikita_Fan> Where are the Ubuntu big brains?
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> DONKEEZ: what ubuntu release?
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> Mikita_Fan  what error?
[18:07] <Mikita_Fan> I think it says it can't classify the error. I will try again and let you know, though
[18:08] <BAMbanda> bean__: its working now, I think your advice helped along with the reboot
[18:08] <BAMbanda> thanks
[18:08] <bean__> np
[18:10] <BAMbanda> bean__: however, now I'm getting ping responses like two times after the TTL
[18:11] <Mikita_Fan> I am not getting an error message anymore. When I try to open the software center, it looks like it tries to open and then closes.
[18:12] <bean__> BAMbanda: so its dropping packets?
[18:13] <BAMbanda> \bean__: Not dropping packets, but packets are coming back slower than expected
[18:13] <bean__> BAMbanda: pastebin the output?
[18:15] <maxmc> Hey folks: CTRL-C (copy) does not work on my external keyboard. CTRL-X (cut) does work though. On my notebooks keyboard CTRL-C does work without any problem. Also, if I sudo in my terminal and are prompted to enter my password and enter it on my extrnal keyboard, the password is not accepted. If I enter the password via my internal keyboard, the password is accepted. If I enter the password with my external keyboard in gedit, it looks just
[18:15] <maxmc>  fine. Other shortcuts like CTRL-T, CTRL-Z work just fine, too. Any idea what could be wrong? I'm totally flabbergasted.
[18:15] <wastrel> Mikita_Fan: what errors do you get if you run  software-center  in a terminal?
[18:16] <Mikita_Fan> Let me check. Do I just open a terminal and type run software-center? I apologize, totally new to Ubuntu.
[18:16] <maxmc> I forgot to mention. The 'c' key does work on it's own, and my password does not contain any c
[18:16] <wastrel> open a terminal and type    software-center   then enter
[18:16] <BAMbanda> bean__: http://pastebin.com/J7Vj7XMA
[18:16] <Mikita_Fan> Thanks, I will check
[18:17] <wastrel> Mikita_Fan: pastebin if it's more than one line
[18:18] <Mikita_Fan> Pastebin?
[18:19] <xpistos> Hey everyone. I have a n00b question. I have pictures scattered over two hard drives that I don't know where they are. How can I write to a text file the location of all the jpg files on each drive?
[18:20] <MonkeyDust> xpistos  beginner, not n00b
[18:20] <xpistos> MonkeyDust: Sorry, i straddle comics and linux and in comics they do say n00bs
[18:20] <wastrel> Mikita_Fan: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:20] <Mikita_Fan> Ok
[18:21] <th0r> xpistos: the locate command, part of find-utils
[18:21] <xpistos> I will man locate now thanks
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> xpistos  ask in #bash
[18:21] <BAMbanda> Is there a reason that I can ping "google.com" but not "http://www.google.com"?
[18:22] <Mikita_Fan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5684619/ Here it is
[18:23] <wastrel> BAMbanda: you're trying to ping http://www.google.com ?
[18:23] <wastrel> ping only understands hostsnames and IP addresses, not URLs
[18:23] <adamk> Mikita_Fan: Read the error...  You didn't type software-center.
[18:24] <xpistos> th0r: That is awesome. thanks dude. Exactly what I neeed!
[18:24] <xpistos> This way I can find the pictures I don't want to move too!
[18:24] <Mikita_Fan> What an awesomely public venue for that little embarassment. I will try it again
[18:25] <th0r> xpistos: you can send the output to a text file with a command like 'locate .jpg > list.txt'
[18:25] <boggle> UpdateManagerWarningForUnity3D when upgrading 12.04 --> 12.10 on Lenovo ideapad U410 -- http://pastebin.com/tTj6azQv
[18:25] <wastrel> Mikita_Fan: command line tip, you can type part of your command and then tab-complete the rest, to avoid misspellings :]
[18:25] <BluesKaj> BAMbanda, ping www.google.com
[18:25] <xpistos> th0r: LOL. That is what I did. Thanks again!
[18:25] <bean__> BAMbanda: thats not too bad, depends on where you're pinging from.
[18:26] <th0r> xpistos: and remember, jpg and JPG are different extensions in linux
[18:26] <xpistos> th0r: I know that but I TOTALLY would have forgot right now, so thanks for reminding me.
[18:27] <Mikita_Fan> It's long. I will pastebin it shortly
[18:27] <xpistos> th0r: Is there a way to look but exclude a specific drive in the process?
[18:27] <xpistos> say I have FU mounted in a give folder but don't want to look there
[18:27] <th0r> xpistos: not sure, I never had to do that <smile>
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> xpistos  the people in #bash can tell you how to do that
[18:29] <Mikita_Fan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5684644/ It's here.
[18:29] <th0r> xpistos: take note of the -i option too regarding case
[18:30] <wastrel> Mikita_Fan: looks like a problem in /etc/apt/sources.list , see line 14 on your pastebin
 I have a message or dialogue box from you, and I can't reply or close it. Any ideas?
[18:30] <Mikita_Fan> Ok, I will look at it.
[18:30] <wastrel> looks like a quote character may be present on line 57
[18:30] <wastrel> a message box?   not sure
[18:31] <Phoenixxl> Well , i've given up.. I'm not going to try what I know won't work.. I'm just going to stick in an extra nick.. I can't add a bridge and stick an interface on it if that interface is mu current iscsi-inititator interface... i see no other way for now..
[18:32] <Phoenixxl> Thnx anyway to those that looked , the pastebin pâge got 28 hits lol
[18:32] <urgodfather> hello room, im having trouble getting a handshake with the intel 6235 card. can someone please help
[18:32] <Mikita_Fan> Ok, so the next question is how could I fix the problems on lines 14 or 57?
[18:33] <bekks> urgodfather: What do you mean by "handshake" in term of a graphics adapter?
[18:34] <urgodfather> bekks: wireless handshake
[18:34] <bekks> urgodfather: Ah, so that intel 6235 is a wifi card then?
[18:34] <urgodfather> bekks: as in connect to router. the card scans properly,
[18:36] <wastrel> Mikita_Fan: do you have a quote character on line 57 of /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
[18:36] <Mikita_Fan> What is a quote character?
[18:36] <wastrel> "
[18:37] <Mikita_Fan> Ahhh, I guess I must
[18:37] <wastrel> make sure the formatting matches the other lines
[18:38] <Mikita_Fan> If I understand this correctly, there is a quotation mark on line 57 somewhere, and I need to get rid of it so that line 57 looks like the others
[18:38] <urgodfather> is there something more that i should do beside copy the newest firmware into the /lib/firmware/  folder? or do i need to add a command for the kernel to know that file exists?
[18:39] <bekks> urgodfather: The kernel expects a specific path and filename in that folder - thats where you would have to copy that firmware file to.
[18:40] <urgodfather> bekks: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi it says to just cp it in there (if the firmware loads properly)
[18:41] <bekks> urgodfather: dmesg (without that file) tells you where the kernel searches for that file.
[18:42] <mbroadst> is anyone here familiar with running activemq on 12.04-12.10?
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> !anyone | mbroadst
[18:44] <wastrel> Mikita_Fan: that's what the error seems to indicate.  if you're not sure you can pastebin the whole sources.list file and we can have a look
[18:44] <urgodfather> bekks: not seeing anything other than the connection attempts
[18:44] <Mikita_Fan> Ok. Again, I apologize for my newness to Ubuntu, so how do I do that?
[18:45] <mbroadst> upon installing the activemq ubuntu package, and configuring the activemq.xml configuration file, I start the server using its initscript (/etc/init.d/activemq start) and it indicates an "[OK]", howver the server is not started, and there are no logs to be found. I was wondering where I might start determining what's going on here
[18:45] <Mikita_Fan> I mean get the sources.list.
[18:45] <bekks> urgodfather: Most likely, that information will be seen in the dmesg output when loading the module.
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> mbroadst  is that a server? if yes: better ask in #ubuntu-server
[18:46] <mbroadst> MonkeyDust: okay thans
[18:46] <IdleOne> Mikita_Fan: the sources list is located in /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:48] <Mikita_Fan> Ok
[18:48] <urgodfather> bekks: ok it says the newest firmware is loaded, but it still wont connect
[18:48] <urgodfather> bekks: it authenticates, then drops
[18:49] <urgodfather> bekks: new card, clean install 12.10. running updates now. bios up to date.
[18:49] <bekks> urgodfather: Then the firmware is already there.
[18:50] <SuperBawlz> hey, having some trouble. My launcher and menu bar are missing. None of the windows have their title bar either. Its only on Unity.
[18:50] <wastrel> SuperBawlz: launch a terminal with ctrl-alt-t and run "unity &"  (without quotes)
[18:51] <grex25> Is there already a way to sync banshee/rhyhtmbox with android mtp device?
[18:51] <wastrel> grex25: what android do you have?
[18:52] <grex25> 4.2.2 jb, gnex i9250
[18:52] <grex25> rooted
[18:52] <Mikita_Fan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5684705/ The original error is at the top,  sources.list is at the bottom.
[18:52] <wastrel> grex  http://askubuntu.com/questions/284762/some-ubuntu-13-04-applications-cannot-access-files-on-mtp-mounted-systems-why
[18:52] <th0r> grex25: dropbox?
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> grex25, Is the android automounting?
[18:53] <th0r> grex25: if you are really techie, I have samba running and use SyncMe in android to sync the folders directly to linux
[18:54] <wastrel> Mikita_Fan: that looks good actually.  maybe something in sources.list.d
[18:54] <grex25> i had samba
[18:54] <Mikita_Fan> Ok, I will look there
[18:54] <grex25> and transferd much music
[18:54] <grex25> than i needed to hw reset my phone because of  ioread bug..
[18:55] <shorty40hands> how do i get the keyring to stop remembering passphrases and prompt for them?
[18:55] <Mikita_Fan> Sources.list.d appears to be an empty folder
[18:55] <grex25> samba auto turn on,.... yeah it was working
[18:56] <grex25> but i thought maybe there is another way now
[18:57] <th0r> grex25: I set up my own 'cloud' on my wifi so I sync all the data between the android tablets, linux, and an NAS more or less automatically, including music and pictures
[18:58] <grex25> nice idea,  I had owncloud, but after sometimes it needs like an hour for one little folder... depending on how much files I already stored
[18:58] <grex25> mtp is a hell
[18:58] <wastrel> Mikita_Fan: and that's the entire /etc/apt/sources.list?
[18:58] <Mikita_Fan> I am pretty sure. I will look again.
[18:58] <wastrel> grex25: see that url, i haven't tried it myself but i'm going to tonight.  update gvfs mtp thing from ppa
[18:59] <wastrel> grex25: see the developer's explanation
[18:59] <th0r> grex25: I admit if I had to completely restore the music I would pull the sd card and put it in the laptop, but for most uses I find SyncMe does just fine. The holdup is that I can't afford a faster flash drive for the NAS <smile>
[19:00] <SuperBawlz> http://pastebin.com/N18Gc6Rb
[19:00] <grex25> th0r: at gnex there is no sd card
[19:00] <SuperBawlz> that's what happens when I run unity &
[19:00] <wastrel> SuperBawlz: the errors indicate a problem with compiz :]
[19:01] <SuperBawlz> Ok. I have no idea how to fix that. I came from Fedora and KDE
[19:01] <Manoa> cc
[19:01] <Mikita_Fan> In /etc/apt I have apt.conf.d, preferences.d, sources.list.d, trusted.gpg.d, sources.list, trustdb.gpg, and  trusted.gpg.
[19:01] <grex25> i got the freshest gvfs from ppa, and i am able to down and upload files
[19:01] <SuperBawlz> Saw the light and switched to Ubuntu about 6 months ago.
[19:01] <grex25> i found a way with clementine
[19:01] <grex25> but banshee still not working
[19:01] <adamk> Those errors indicate a problem with the OpenGL drivers, not with compiz.
[19:02] <adamk> SuperBawlz: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[19:02] <wastrel> grex25: other option is to use the go-mtpfs instead of the gvfs one
[19:03] <grex25> wastrel: thank you, i will take a look
[19:03] <wastrel> then you have the device filesystem properly mounted on the host
[19:03] <SuperBawlz> http://pastebin.com/zkrhvm5w
[19:03] <wastrel> insted of this mtp:// garbage
[19:03] <SuperBawlz> I'm logged in with Xfce right now.
[19:03] <adamk> SuperBawlz: You have the nvidia driver installed, but you are using an intel GPU.
[19:04] <bariumbitmap> Hi!
[19:04] <adamk> SuperBawlz: So uninstall the nvidia driver.
[19:05] <SuperBawlz> How did that happen? This system has been running for 6 months and I know I don't have an NVIDIA card. WTF.
[19:05] <adamk> SuperBawlz: Why are you asking us how it happened?  It's your machine :-)
[19:05] <SuperBawlz> LOL
[19:05] <SuperBawlz> So strange. I wonder if some sort of update did it. It worked fine when I left on Friday.
[19:06] <SuperBawlz> Weird
[19:06] <SuperBawlz> Recommended removal method?
[19:06] <wastrel> Mikita_Fan: try  wc -l /etc/apt/sources.list   in the terminal
[19:06] <Mikita_Fan> Ok
[19:06] <adamk> SuperBawlz: apt-get remove nvidia*
[19:07] <CFenix> Hello everyone, i'm running and old computer, I wanted to know wish video card has better performance on Ubuntu (regardless of which one is actually better) between ATI x1300 and Nvidia 6200
[19:07] <SuperBawlz> I just figured out how it happened.
[19:07] <SuperBawlz> I installed NVIDIA nsight Eclipse CUDA development environment.
[19:08] <wastrel> that's how they get you
[19:08] <Mikita_Fan> 58 /etc/apt/sources.list This is what I got
[19:09] <wastrel> ok Mikita_Fan but you only pasted 33 lines of it in the pastebin
[19:09] <CFenix> i need to know because i have them both in hand and i can only choose one ATI or NVIDIA?
[19:09] <Mikita_Fan> Really? That's odd. I might have missed some and I will try again
[19:10] <wastrel> Mikita_Fan: just do this:  cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list   in the terminal
[19:10] <CFenix> NVIDIA or ATI? on ubuntu
[19:10] <wastrel> CFenix: if you find out let me know
[19:10] <Mikita_Fan> Ok
[19:11] <wastrel> Mikita_Fan: what's on line 57  ?  :]
[19:11] <Mikita_Fan> No idea.
[19:11] <Mikita_Fan> Oh snap
[19:12] <Mikita_Fan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5684751/ Here is all lines.
[19:12] <CFenix> I see, i've seen better drivers for Nvidia but i was wondering maybe the x1300 was the exception and it actually runs fine... if that's the case i would like Ati
[19:12] <wastrel> yeah that would be it
[19:13] <Loshki> CFenix: Does this help? http://ubuntu.5.x6.nabble.com/NVIDIA-GeForce-6200-Extremely-Slow-td5016857.html
[19:13] <wastrel> Mikita_Fan: delete those lines is probably the best bet
[19:13] <wastrel> torproject did you install tor stuff?
[19:14] <Mikita_Fan> Looks like lines 57 and 58 could be the problem.  Not that I am aware of. How do I delete it?
[19:14] <k1l_> the " are messing up. and its a lucid repo anyway
[19:14] <wastrel> Mikita_Fan: first do   sudo cp -i /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak    this creates a backup of your file
[19:15] <wastrel> in the terminal.  it will ask for your password
[19:16] <wastrel> Mikita_Fan: then    gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:16] <wastrel> this will open the file in a text editor, you can delete the lines and save it
[19:17] <Junos4Life> anyone have libcurl 7.21 or above running in ubnutu?
[19:17] <Mikita_Fan> So I entered this in terminal, was that correct?
[19:17] <Junos4Life> cant seem to get it installed, i have a program i want to install libslax that needs it
[19:17] <Mikita_Fan> sudo cp -i /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak
[19:17] <ink3> Hello. I have problem with wifi on laptop compaq nx6310.
[19:18] <CFenix> NVIDIA it is.. Better support! thanks everyone
[19:18] <wastrel> Mikita_Fan: should work, it's just a precaution
[19:19] <Mikita_Fan> Ok, will it give any message? It asked for my password and then  just gave the nixt line
[19:19] <Mikita_Fan> Next
[19:19] <wastrel> Mikita_Fan: no message, it just copies it silently
[19:19] <Mikita_Fan> Ok
[19:22] <Mikita_Fan> Ok
[19:23] <compdoc> OK!
[19:24] <Mikita_Fan> Success!
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> Q'pah!
[19:24] <wastrel> suite
[19:24] <Mikita_Fan> Thank you!!
[19:25] <Arkhana> Mikita_Fan: If you ask s question like this:
[19:26] <Arkhana> wastrel: (question)
[19:27] <Arkhana> Mikita_Fan: the IRC program will notify the user
[19:27] <Arkhana> Mikita_Fan: People will respond a lot faster
[19:27] <Pici>  !who
[19:28] <SuperBawlz> Thanks guys! You got me back up and running.
[19:29] <Mikita_Fan> Arkhana: Like this?
[19:29] <SuperBawlz> After sampling the other window managers I realized that while Unity looks cool, I think I want to change back or something.
[19:29] <Junos4Life> Can anyone help me out with install libcurl 7.21 or above?
[19:29] <SuperBawlz> Any recommendations?
[19:29] <Arkhana> Mikita_Fan: Yes
[19:29] <Junos4Life> I compiled from source but when I try to compile another program from source it cant find libcurl
[19:30] <Mikita_Fan> Arkhana: Got it! Thank you much! I appreciate it. Lesson learned about watching what I download
[19:30] <Arkhana> Mikita_Fan: In example, the basic IRC program for ubuntu shows a blinking '!' when someone tells something about you
[19:31] <cp_> Junos4Life:  libcurl..... have you checked http://packages.ubuntu.com/ yet?
[19:32] <Mikita_Fan> Arkhana: Got it
[19:33] <trism> Junos4Life: you need one of the several dev packages: libcurl4-gnutls-dev, libcurl4-nss-dev, libcurl4-openssl-dev
[19:33] <Arkhana> Mikita_Fan: What's your iRC client?
[19:33] <Mikita_Fan> Arkhana: KVIRC
[19:34] <Arkhana> Mikita_Fan: What OS?
[19:34] <Junos4Life> yeah but those dev packages are not 7.21
[19:34] <Junos4Life> do I have to compile them from source?
[19:34] <Mikita_Fan> Arkhana: Not sure I understand. Ubuntu?
[19:35] <Arkhana> Mikita: Ubuntu is an OS, so I guess you're right
[19:35] <mrj> Is there a channel specific to MAAS?
[19:36] <Arkhana> Mikita_Fan: Try xIRC, the default IRC program for Ubuntu
[19:36] <Mikita_Fan> Arkhana: Oh, I have that, too
[19:37] <trism> Junos4Life: why do you need 7.21 exactly? no versions of ubuntu except lucid provide a curl version less than 7.22
[19:37] <cp_> Junos4Life:    yes, I'd think so, a lot of what the repository do, is to compile per distribution
[19:37] <Arkhana> Mikita_Fan: Log out on KVIRC and log in on xIRC
[19:37] <cp_> Junos4Life:  but yes, you always bypassing them by getting the src yourself and compile the package(s)
[19:37] <Mikita_Fan> Arkhana: I might be wrong. I think I have X-chat. Is that the same thing?
[19:37] <cp_> s/you/you can/
[19:38] <Arkhana> Mikita_Fan: I think so
[19:38] <Mikita_Fan> Arkhana: Ok, I will log into that.
[19:40] <Arkhana> Mikita_Fan: Now minimize x-chat
[19:41] <PrototypeX29A> turns out sound is only working for some applications...
[19:41] <Arkhana> Mikita_Fan: Do you see it?
[19:41] <Mikita_Fan> See what?
[19:41] <encryped> Dear fellow ubuntu users, i've made a huge mistake i accidentally purged libc6. And im getting a kernel panic @ boot (run-init: /sbin/init: No such file or directory). Now rebooted with a recovery disc i can locate my hdd. Is there a way to reinstall libc6 ?
[19:41] <Arkhana> The blinking '!' on your menu bar
[19:42] <Mikita_Fan> No I didn'tr
[19:43] <l9> encryped: sudo apt-get install libc6?
[19:43] <Arkhana> Mikita_Fan: Well, some programs do...
[19:43] <Ben64> encryped: now you know not to do stuff like that
[19:43] <encryped> i know, but my libc6 dependecies were somehow broken
[19:45] <lemus> desde chile probando xubuntu, exelente sistema operativo para mi netbook
[19:45] <elisa87> how can I install a .bin in Ubuntu? ./arm-2013.05-24-arm-none-linux-gnueabi.bin: command not found didn't work
[19:45] <lemus> #chile
[19:46] <Ben64> elisa87: you sure thats an installable thing?
[19:47] <elisa87> Ben64: this is what it was mentioned IA32 GNU/Linux Installer and it downloaded that .bin file!
[19:47] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04>  elisa87: chmod +x whatever.bin
[19:48] <Ben64> elisa87: paste the output of "file arm-2013.05-24-arm-none-linux-gnueabi.bin"
[19:48] <elisa87> before running it I tried chmod 777 xxx.bin but I try this Roy_Ubuntu_13-04
[19:48] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> elisa87: ."/whatever.bin" or "sh whatever.bin"
[19:48] <elisa87> jalal@mona:/research/jalal$ file arm-2013.05-24-arm-none-linux-gnueabi.bin
[19:48] <elisa87> arm-2013.05-24-arm-none-linux-gnueabi.bin: data
[19:48] <Ben64> yeah thats not executable
[19:49] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> 777 just mean any one can read and write
[19:49] <Ryhizuke> A question, which in your opinion is better GCC or CLANG?
[19:49] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> do chmod +x filename
[19:49] <Ben64> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: 777 does +x
[19:49] <elisa87> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5684855/ Roy_Ubuntu_13-04 Ben64
[19:49] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> ok then to execute it do ./filename
[19:49] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> with the dot slash
[19:49] <l9> encryped: did you save the libc?
[19:50] <elisa87> Ryhizuke: have you worked with llvm?
[19:50] <Ben64> elisa87: do "bash file.bin" then
[19:50] <rymate1234> hey
[19:51] <rymate1234> how do I update firefox on 12.10?
[19:51] <elisa87> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  Ben64 I did both bash and ./ http://paste.ubuntu.com/5684858/
[19:51] <rymate1234> I installed it onto a persistant live usb by accident (meant to get 13.04)
[19:51] <nldimitris> Hello to everyone can you please tell me what happeneds to my old files after an update ...? still in my hard drive...? or they have been replaced by new files...?
[19:51] <rymate1234> I get an error though http://pastebin.com/CUGknv4K
[19:51] <vlad_starkov> Question about Debian: After upgrade I got this every time on login: -bash: declare: -A: invalid option \n declare: usage: declare [-afFirtx] [-p] [name[=value] ...]
[19:52] <vlad_starkov> Anyone know how to deal with that error?
[19:52] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> so do what it say i would also "apt-get install awk grep sed bzip2 gunzip" just encase
[19:52] <Pici> vlad_starkov: If you're running debian, you should be asking in #debian, not #ubuntu
[19:52] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04>  elisa87: apt-get install awk grep sed bzip2 gunzip
[19:52] <bean__> nldimitris: um, did you reinstall or upgrade?
[19:52] <elisa87> how can I install awk? E: Package 'awk' has no installation candidate
[19:53] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> i would have to google
[19:53] <bekks> elisa87: gawk?
[19:53] <elisa87> Also it didn't find E: Unable to locate package gunzip
[19:53] <brainwash> elisa87: mawk
[19:53] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> awk ubuntu 13.04
[19:53] <Pici> elisa87: mawk
[19:53] <vlad_starkov> Pici: thnx)
[19:54] <elisa87> it is mentioned that I should install gunzip but the package isnot found
[19:54] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> work on the packages it seend
[19:54] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> needs*
[19:54] <Pici> elisa87: that is part of the gzip package.
[19:55] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> wow that was a really messed up typo
[19:55] <JoeyJoeJo> Does anyone have a tutorial on how to set up  a bluetooth serial port on my computer? I want to connect to my computer via my tablet's bluetooth using the SPP (serial port) profile
[19:55] <elisa87> thanks pici
[19:55] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> afk
[19:55] <James_Epp> Really weird one here, guys. I have a Dell Optiplex GX270 Desktop. Just installed Ubuntu on it and I cannot get the network card to work. I know it is not a physical issue, as I installed the OS over the network. Perhaps a couple commands would resolve the issue? Thanks. :D
[19:56] <elisa87> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  Pici Ben64 do you know what should I do and how do install the arm cross compiler from this .bin file? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5684858/
[19:56] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04>  James_Epp: what is the output of iwconfig
[19:57] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04>  elisa87 off hand i dont know about that
[19:57] <elisa87> how to fix this error? Error: DASH shell not supported as system shell
[19:57] <James_Epp> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:
[19:57] <James_Epp> lo no wireless extensions
[19:57] <James_Epp> eth0 no wireless extensions
[19:57] <bekks> elisa87: USe another shell, like bash.
[19:58] <wastrel> James_Epp: lspci | grep -i net
[19:58] <Tecan> looks like libcddb needs to be updated on 64 bit 12.10
[19:58] <James_Epp> wastrel: It found an Intel controller.
[19:58] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04>  James_Epp: that means you would need to load the driver, i know that involves "modprobe" but im not sure how to find hte driver u need
[19:58] <elisa87> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04:  Ben64 Pici this is the fix to that problem http://www.stf12.org/developers/odev-linux.html
[20:00] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04>  James_Epp i know "lspci" would be part of finding out hte driver needed, i think
[20:01] <James_Epp> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: I will do a search for the output then. Thanks, mates!
[20:01] <wastrel> James_Epp: lsmod | grep e100
[20:01] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> your welcome
[20:01] <James_Epp> wastrel: It discovered an e1000
[20:02] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04>  wastrel e100 might work 4 u but not all
[20:02] <wastrel> so that's likely the driver
[20:02] <wastrel> but yeah possibly not
[20:02] <James_Epp> I have ubuntu 12.04 running on another desktop of mine, and I am wondering about this feature of sorts: On Windows 7, if I hold down Win + Arrow keys, I can move windows around half-snapping to the screens. On ubuntu, this is ctrl + super + arrow keys. However, in windows 7, this can go between different monitors, whereas this is not true in ubuntu 12.04. Can I use compiz or something to resolve this?
[20:04] <cp_> James_Epp:   you can always drag any window on pretty much any window manager with Alt-mouse
[20:04] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04>  James_Epp: look for "workspace switcher"
[20:05] <cp_> James_Epp:  that said, usually ctrl-space-m   and use the arrows to move it
[20:05] <jrgp> how many people here have HIV? no lies
[20:05] <James_Epp> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: workspaces is not at all what I mean. That is ctrl/shift/arrow keys. I am talking about snapping features.
[20:06] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> like to the left and right sides of the screen
[20:06] <James_Epp> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: Yes.
[20:07] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04>  James_Epp: 13.04 does that, it has compiz
[20:07] <James_Epp> cp_: I do not understand what you meant by 'm'
[20:07] <James_Epp> Roy_Ubuntu_13-04: 12.04 should do it then. I'll check it out.
[20:08] <julie> hello
[20:08] <cnf>  m00
[20:08] <julie> can anyone help me with Open Office??
[20:09] <julie> Heelllppp
[20:09] <seronis> !ask
[20:10] <julie> Thanks! :)
[20:11] <k1l_> !details | julie
[20:12] <julie> Whenever I try to open a document it asks for filter options. I use default and it opens blank. And it says my document is 0 bites. I'm pretty sure that's incorrect. I wrote a ton and I realllllyyyy need that doc. Any suggestions?
[20:12] <FearTheLord> http://believeintheholybible.blogspot.com/
[20:12] <wakeup> you're screwed
[20:12] <FearTheLord> justin bieber is likely to go to hell
[20:12] <FearTheLord> !ops
[20:12] <FearTheLord> http://believeintheholybible.blogspot.com/
[20:12] <FloodBot1> FearTheLord: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:13] <cp_> julie:    does the .doc file  show a filesize in the filemanager?
[20:13] <Darkchaos> Hello Guys. Do you know a good way earning money by having a root. I am thinking about some p2p services, maybe some folks who pay a bit money for seeding on bittorrent or something?
[20:13] <julie> it says it's 0 bytes :/
[20:14] <wakeup> told you
[20:14] <bekks> Darkchaos: Thats offtopic in here.
[20:14] <cp_> julie:  well, then it's 0 bytes :(
[20:14] <Darkchaos> You totaly don't want offtopic? As it's a Ubuntu based machine :D
[20:14] <cp_> julie:   I'm thinking you thought you saved it, but you just forgot
[20:15] <julie> is there anyway to recover it or anything? I worked on it probably about a week ago. I'm pretty sure I saved it.
[20:15] <cp_> julie:   was it ... libreoffice writer?
[20:15] <wakeup> julie: see if you saved in with another name, check your trash
[20:15] <julie> OpenOffice
[20:16] <Solarra> alright I'm about to abandon ubuntu may I request assistance?
[20:17] <m0nk3yjoe> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12LTS  and 13latest on Dell Dimension e310 and it installs but then always crashes on first boot with Uncompressin error... system halting.  Can't go to recovery mode either =(
[20:19] <cp_> m0nk3yjoe:  from the splash screen of the bootable usb/cd, press F6 for more boot options, try to turn off a few like 'acpi' or so, and retry
[20:19] <julie> could the problem be with OpenOffice? Because of the filter thing? Is there any way to bypass that?
[20:20] <cp_> julie:  nope, if the file shows 0, is 0 :|
[20:21] <cp_> julie:   any issues libraries Writer would have, would just be a nuance in Writer alone, no any files it saved
[20:22] <julie> is there anyway I could try to restore what I wrote??
[20:22] <James_Epp> Solarra: Whatcha got man?
[20:22] <cp_> julie:    can you launch OpenOffice at all?  not writer or calc, just the openoffice link
[20:22] <Solarra> I finished the b43 wireless install
[20:22] <jemark> Solarra: what's your question?
[20:22] <Solarra> ubuntu 12.04
[20:22] <jemark> Solarra: yes
[20:22] <Solarra> the damn thing keeps dropping the wireless
[20:23] <cp_> Solarra: how did you "finished the b43 wireless install"?
[20:23] <Solarra> i can't update anything because the wireless keeps dropping
[20:23] <jemark> Solarra: how many bars do you have for your wireless?
[20:23] <James_Epp> Solarra: I can sympathise with your frustration. Could you provide some more details as per the hardware?
[20:23] <Solarra> 3-4 bars
[20:23] <julie> yeah. A different document is working fine, no problems or anything. This particular one asks for the filter, I chose the default options, and it comes up blank.
[20:23] <Solarra> it is a Linksys WM54GS V1.1
[20:24] <Solarra> 4318 is the key number
[20:24] <Solarra> from running the command I don't remember
[20:24] <talexb_> I just upgraded to 12.04 and I'm seeing an error when I use dpkg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5684944/
[20:24] <jemark> Solarra: did you check the channels and if your neighbours are using the same channel?
[20:24] <cp_> julie:    well, either way , is just a blank file it seems, ok, once in OpenOffice, go to Tools > Options, check the Paths, usually you want to check around for any backups under the "backups" and "/tmp" folders
[20:24] <talexb_> What can I do to resolve that locally?
[20:25] <Solarra> that can't be the issue, because this machine running osx is connected to the same wireless with 0 issues
[20:25] <Solarra> as is the desktop running windows
[20:25] <generalmajor> Norwegian information: cf. § 227 first penalty option, criminal act. Miscarriage of justice: http://www.lovdata.no  <<Straffelov (Straffeloven) (1902 JD)>>
[20:26] <cp_> Solarra:  did you install fwcutter?
[20:26] <Solarra> yes
[20:28] <cp_> Solarra:   maybe try installing the backports for wireless .deb
[20:28] <Solarra> how is that done?
[20:28] <cp_> lemme ... poke a bit
[20:29] <jemark> Solarra: did you read this page? http://is.gd/BOqBLu
[20:29] <cp_> Solarra:   usually it'd show in the -> apt-cache pkgnames | grep -i backports
[20:30] <number-7> Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[20:30] <number-7> only took 1:15
[20:30] <number-7> !
[20:30] <number-7> said 3 hours
[20:30] <jemark> number-7: :)
[20:30] <Solarra> sec
[20:30] <generalmajor> Norwegian information: cf. § 227 first penalty option, criminal act. Miscarriage of justice: http://www.lovdata.no  <<Straffelov (Straffeloven) (1902 JD)>>
[20:31] <number-7> and everything works, im happy
[20:31] <number-7> now, how do i upgrade my windows 3.1?
[20:31] <IdleOne> !ot > generalmajor
[20:31] <James_Epp> In compiz I see 'primary' as a key a lot. What does this mean?
[20:32] <Fleck> number-7: you don't you stick with it! :D
[20:32] <number-7> yeah, i likes win3.1
[20:32] <number-7> liked
[20:32] <generalmajor> Norwegian information: cf. § 227 first penalty option, criminal act. Miscarriage of justice: http://www.lovdata.no  <<Straffelov (Straffeloven) (1902 JD)>>
[20:33] <James_Epp> number-7: http://goo.gl/Qups1
[20:33] <epicurus> one
[20:34] <IdleOne> What does Windows have to do with Ubuntu support?
[20:34] <m0nk3yjoe> cp_, I tried to turn off acpi and it just restarts every time
[20:34] <m0nk3yjoe> tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/160036/how-do-i-disable-acpi-when-booting
[20:34] <IdleOne> Please stick to the topic and if you really feel like talking about other things you are all welcome to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:34] <James_Epp> IdleOne: Wine. :P
[20:35] <riceandbeans> what is ubuntu's default MTA?
[20:36] <riceandbeans> is it exim like debian or something else?
[20:36] <epicurus> postfix i thought
[20:36] <julie> cp_ I'm searching hard. Thanks for your help :)
[20:36] <cp_> julie:   hehe, np
[20:36] <Pici> riceandbeans: postfix is the default MTA, but we also provide and support exim
[20:37] <riceandbeans> Pici: was only curious about default since ubuntu is debian based and debian defaults exim
[20:37] <riceandbeans> Pici: thanks though
[20:38] <cp_> m0nk3yjoe:   have you tried booting with that disk elsewhere? makes me wonder if the burning/copying went ok
[20:39] <Solarra> cp_: Output ~ 02:07.0 Network Controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless Lan Controller (rev 02)
[20:41] <m0nk3yjoe> cp_ this is the 3rd disk on different USB and DVD media
[20:41] <epicurus> one
[20:43] <cp_> m0nk3yjoe:    so.... ahemm, does it boot on other hardware though?
[20:43] <m0nk3yjoe> cp_, Does yes
[20:44] <dominic_> is 13.04 ubuntu version good and stable to download by now
[20:45] <w3bcrawler> if i would like to upgrade from 10.04 to 13.04 can i do so directly?
[20:45] <auronandace> w3bcrawler: no
[20:45] <k1l_> w3bcrawler: no
[20:46] <k1l_> you need to upgrade to 12.04 and then to the steps from 12.04 to 12.10 and then to 13.04
[20:46] <auronandace> dominic_: i've had no issues with 13.04
[20:46] <cp_> Solarra:   ... hmmm, I've used in the paste fwcutter on a b43, and it worked but I run a few commands for installing.... I'm guessing it might be that
[20:46] <dominic_> but what are the avantages for me to upgrade
[20:47] <auronandace> dominic_: more recent app versions
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> w3bcrawler  12.04 if you want long support, 13.04 if you want the latest stuff - decide what you want more
[20:48] <dominic_> what is gonna be the difference with a short support
[20:48] <bekks> dominic_: More recent versions.
[20:48] <tyrog> dominic_: With 13.04 you have a support period of 9 months, so in January 2014 at best you need to upgrade to Ubuntu 13.10
[20:48] <k1l_> !lts | dominic_
[20:48] <bekks> dominic_: More effort for you to update regurlarly.
[20:48] <bekks> -r
[20:49] <m0nk3yjoe> anyone have an experience with uncompressino error - system halted error after Grub loads?
[20:49] <lmat> I just had a crash on ubuntu using compiz. Eventually, it said, "X is using software rendering ... you may wonder why X isn't using hardware acceleration." Amazing! I am wondering exactly that!
[20:49] <lmat> How do I make X use hardware acceleration?
[20:49] <bekks> m0nk3yjoe: Which error exactly?
[20:49] <lmat> I think I'm using pretty popular hardware (Dell Precision M4000 laptop)
[20:49] <dominic_> what are they gonna do after the 9 months of 13.04
[20:50] <bekks> dominic_: dominic_ 6 months after 13.04 there will be 13.10
[20:50] <auronandace> dominic_: after the support period is over then its no longer supported
[20:50] <tyrog> dominic_: The repositories are no longer updated, which means there are no more bugfixes and security updates for 13.04
[20:51] <dominic_> they force you to upgrade your machine
[20:51] <m0nk3yjoe> bekks, uncompression error - system halted error after Grub loads
[20:51] <m0nk3yjoe> that is it
[20:51] <tyrog> dominic_: no, but you don't want to stay on something unsupported, it's better not to
[20:52] <auronandace> dominic_: why do you think they also offer lts releases?
[20:52] <dominic_> it seems that every body have swithed to 13.04
[20:52] <cnf> i haven't
[20:52] <cp_> Solarra:     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[20:52] <bekks> dominic_: Only those who couldnt wait ;)
[20:52] <k1l_> dominic_: so go for an LTS if you want longer support frames. 12.04 is the last lts
[20:52] <bekks> dominic_: And those who want to update every 6 months :)
[20:52] <tyrog> dominic_: You can upgrade right from your desktop to 13.10 when it's out, although fresh installs are recommended
[20:53] <cnf> i don't much care about LTS on the desktop, but i sure do appreciate it on servers
[20:53] <dominic_> do you lose anyconfiguration when you upgrade
[20:54] <tyrog> dominic_: I'm not very experienced with upgrades, so more informed people here should tell you better :)
[20:54] <aaa> ciao
[20:54] <atarih> help
[20:54] <aaa> !list
[20:54] <atarih> sorry!
[20:54] <k1l_> dominic_: they shouldnt change. but if the programs or services changed in the mean time you will be asked which configfile (new vs old) you want to use
[20:55] <k1l_> !details | atarih
[20:55] <Tex_Nick> i've been playing with x11vnc for the past few days ... a line in the startup messages is "The X server says there are 24 mouse buttons." ... does that mean that X server supports 24 buttons ... i can't find that many buttons on this mouse @^@
[20:56] <{mikey}> DAFUQ??
[20:56] <dominic_> install with a fresh start means with a dvd
[20:56] <k1l_> dominic_: or with a usb-stick
[20:57] <dominic_> how can i do it with a usb stick
[20:57] <tyrog> dominic_: Are you currently on Windows?
[20:57] <dominic_> non 12.04
[20:57] <k1l_> put the .iso on the stick and boot from usb
[20:57] <dominic_> ok
[20:58] <{mikey}> If I run "touch ~/somefile; sudo chown root:root ~/somefile" and then open it with vim and save with ":w!" it is changes back to my ownership!!!!
[20:58] <tyrog> dominic_: If you are on 12.04, use the Startup Disk Creator tool available from the dash to copy the iso to the usb stick
[20:58] <woo> Hey, how do I get rid of a zombie process?
[20:58] <cp_> dominic_:    put the .iso on the usb stick, no copy it over, or its contents, put it as in "raw write/dump" to it
[20:59] <cp_> woo:   killall PROCESSHERE
[21:00] <dominic_> tyrog thanks
[21:00] <woo> cp_: cant find the process.  I'll try awk. brb
[21:00] <dominic_> i hope that im not gonna loose everything
[21:00] <woo> cp_: used top
[21:01] <tyrog> dominic_: Most people on the desktop probably prefer the current releases, since they have the latest features for the desktop, but there are many users that also prefer LTS's for their long-term support
[21:01] <k1l_> dominic_: to have backups will be handy anyway :)
[21:01] <th0r> dominic_: why are you upgrading? what do you expect to get out of 13.04 that you don't already have?
[21:01] <tyrog> dominic_: Copying a Ubuntu image to the USB stick ERASES all of its content, so be careful
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> dominic_, If you are not sure you can do this safely you should be backed up, good idea always anyway.
[21:02] <bekks> dominic_
[21:02] <bekks> dominic_: sorry :)
[21:02] <m0nk3yjoe> How do I disable apci in grub?
[21:03] <cp_> woo:    install "qps" maybe, is like a GUI "top", but more scrollable :), anyhow, I use qps
[21:03] <{mikey}> Or to put it another way, my Lubuntu system appears to have the motherload of security exploits running on it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5685047/
[21:03] <cp_> m0nk3yjoe:    you add to the boot line, noacpi
[21:03] <woo> cp_: found the pid Z 8259. I sudo killed -15 and such.  it wont die
[21:04] <wilee-nilee> m0nk3yjoe, http://askubuntu.com/questions/160036/how-do-i-disable-acpi-when-booting
[21:04] <m0nk3yjoe> cp_, it just reboots and doesnt do it
[21:04] <trism> {mikey}: it is not an exploit, you have write permission to ~, so you can delete any file there and create a new one with the same name, no matter who owns it
[21:05] <bekks> {mikey}: Why do you think that is has something to do with exploits?
[21:05] <dominic_> how do i back up with ubuntu
[21:05] <{mikey}> Ok, I never knew that was possible
[21:05] <tyrog> dominic_: But you should consider staying with the LTS really
[21:05] <m0nk3yjoe> wilee-nilee, I have quite splash $vt_handoff do I remvoe those?
[21:05] <tyrog> dominic_: do you use Unity?
[21:05] <cp_> woo:   try using "qps", is a few more detailed info on processes
[21:05] <m0nk3yjoe> No matter how I change the grub options it just restarts and does't boot
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> m0nk3yjoe, I would not know you asked for a specific.
[21:06] <{mikey}> I'd always assumed that if I changed a file to root premissions I couldn't mess with it
[21:06] <{mikey}> Apparently it perfectly editable
[21:06] <cp_> m0nk3yjoe:    you're trying to install it, as opposed to you already installed it and it's rebooting?
[21:07] <m0nk3yjoe> cp_,  already installed
[21:08] <cp_> hmm
[21:08] <talexb_> What's up with gcc? I'm getting errors when ./configure runs gcc -V and bombs.
[21:08] <m0nk3yjoe> cp_,  odd huh?
[21:08] <dominic_> yes i use it but why
[21:08] <stevelitt> What's the latest on the Cups problem with invalid access on HP 4050's? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups-filters/+bug/998087
[21:08] <m0nk3yjoe> Did the same with kubuntu and Xubuntu
[21:08] <stevelitt> A couple nights ago an update started doing this to my Xubuntu 12.10 setup. I "fixed" it with lpadmin -p <printer> -o pdftops-renderer-default=pdftops, but still have problem
[21:08] <m0nk3yjoe> On 12.10.2 and 13.04
[21:09] <m0nk3yjoe> This is an old dell dimension 310
[21:09] <bekks> m0nk3yjoe: There is no 12.10.2
[21:09] <bekks> m0nk3yjoe: Do you mean 12.04.2?
[21:09] <m0nk3yjoe> bekks, typo
[21:09] <stevelitt> ubottu, yeah, that one. Any fix on that without going to 13.04?
[21:10] <stevelitt> A couple nights ago an update started doing this to my Xubuntu 12.10 setup. I "fixed" it with lpadmin -p <printer> -o pdftops-renderer-default=pdftops, but still have problems with excessively light print and "must have Postscript 3" errors when trying to print certain postscript from evince.
[21:10] <tyrog> dominic_: There aren't many new features I would use on 13.04, compared to 12.04 lts . Most notable improvements are the webapps and unity previews, and I don't use that so for me it's not much worth upgrading :)
[21:10] <dominic_> why do you says that bekks
[21:10] <stevelitt> Google seems to imply this got fixed a year ago, but I just got a bad update a few days ago.
[21:11] <dominic_> 13.04 is supposed to be faster
[21:11] <stevelitt> OK, ubotto, is there a fix for Launchpad bug 998087 in cups-filters
[21:11] <James_Epp> dominic_: Did you post on /g/ ?
[21:11] <tyrog> dominic_: Indeed it is.
[21:13] <cp_> m0nk3yjoe:  well, yes and no... depends.... so you get to grub .... , get to the boot entry and press "e" to edit line, add to the end -> acpi=off noapic, then ctrl-x to boot from that
[21:14] <m0nk3yjoe> cp_,  still gives same error == uncompression error system halted
[21:16] <dominic_> i hate seeing that shotwell is better on 13.04 and we dont get it automatic with 12.04
[21:19] <tyrog> dominic_: You can use a PPA to update shotwell
[21:19] <tyrog> Its not that hard, and you should learn to use PPAs anyway
[21:20] <dominic_> how do i do that
[21:20] <cp_> ...
[21:20] <cp_> dominic_:    ever used Gwenview? is almost like Picasa, I like it, then again, you can always just get Picasa and nevermind shotwell
[21:22] <jamshyd> It seems that most apps in Ubuntu create files with permissions that differ from whatever umask one sets in one's .bashrc. How does one modify the default umask in Ubuntu?
[21:22] <tyrog> dominic_: First think for a while if you need the new shotwell at all
[21:22] <jamshyd> (by Ubuntu, I mean 13.04)
[21:22] <tyrog> Search for its new features, and eventually regressions too !
[21:24] <gypsyjoker> does nautilus in 12.10 burn bootable discs?
[21:25] <gypsyjoker> anyone here?
[21:26]  * gypsyjoker twiddles his thumbs waiting on a simple answer as everyone joins and quits
[21:27] <compdoc> who wants to know?
[21:28] <James_Epp> gypsyjoker: I use 12.04 and it works for me. Not sure about 12.10, but I would assume so.
[21:28] <gypsyjoker> i'm tryin to burn a different distro with a computer i was given that has 12.10 on it. brasero keeps tellin me that the drive is mounted and it won't work. does nautilus burn bootable isos? do i use burn as file or burn contents?
[21:29] <gypsyjoker> thanks James_Epp
[21:29] <James_Epp> gypsyjoker: But I would suggest you download K3B and try using it instead. Much better program in my opinion.
[21:29] <gypsyjoker> i don't want to use ubuntu that long. i'm trying to burn a different distro now
[21:29] <James_Epp> gypsyjoker: Feel free to experiment, man! here is the link to that program: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/k3b
[21:30] <gypsyjoker> i'll try it
[21:30] <James_Epp> You should just be able to right click on your .iso and open with K3B
[21:31] <dominic_> new shotwell can be sync with facebook my wife needs it
[21:34] <abdullahdean> whats your favorite channel besides ubuntu?
[21:34] <cp_> dominic_:     Gwenview has plugins, yes lo and behold, it has one for "export to facebook", among many :P
[21:34] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | abdullahdean, this isn't the place for that
[21:36] <dominic_> cp_ i will try it
[21:37] <dominic_> i have shotwell on my tablet as well
[21:41] <abdullahdean> how can I get tor browser to work in Linux Mint 14?
[21:41] <k1l_> abdullahdean: mint is not supported here. please see their support
[21:41] <bazhang> ask in mintsupport abdullahdean
[21:43] <Tex_Nick> abdullahdean:  most of the mint help channels can be found on the  irc.spotchat.org server\
[21:45] <SonikkuAmerica> !mint | abdullahdean
[21:45] <gypsyjoker> ok, so that didn't work
[21:46] <gypsyjoker> now, since i'm out of discs, how do i move the launcher, and get back the old menu style?
[21:46] <cp_> gypsyjoker:   are you trying to burn an .iso to a usb stick?
[21:46] <gypsyjoker> cp_, nope. i was trying to burn it to the only DVD i had
[21:47] <cp_> gypsyjoker:     ok... you can just use "dd" from the shell for either anyhow
[21:47] <gypsyjoker> but since that didn't work, how do i move the launcher from the left side of the screen? it's in the way there, and I'd also like to get back the old menus instead of that dash
[21:47] <cp_> gypsyjoker:  assuming you have a dvd-rw drive that is
[21:47] <vitimiti> nighty night
[21:49] <gypsyjoker> oh well, since i can't burn disks right now, lemme go see if i can at least move the launcher
[21:51] <bfig> hello, i'm trying to set up l2tp. I downloaded l2tp-ipsec-vpn but haven't been able to configure everything right
[21:51] <Tex_Nick> gypsyjoker:  for future reference ... you might consider buying RW DVD's ;-)
[21:51] <bfig> first of all, is there a better way to do this than with l2tp-ipsec-vpn?
[21:52] <gypsyjoker> Tex_Nick, i was given the computer and the DVD
[21:52] <gypsyjoker> now, i know i'm being lazy, but how do i move the launcher?
[21:53] <k1l_> gypsyjoker: you cant move the launcher in unity
[21:53] <gypsyjoker> k1l_, for real? holy crap, why not?
[21:53] <woo> now there are 2 zombies!
[21:54] <woo> why are zombies after my computer?
[21:54] <Guest65378> is this a help channel?
[21:54] <k1l_> !details | Guest65378
[21:54] <Kitzune> Yes, it's a help channel.
[21:54] <bean__> woo: those are usually processes still open, but the parent process hasn't died yet
[21:54] <|s-a|> !topic | Guest65378
[21:54] <bean__> or hasn't been cleaned up
[21:54] <Tex_Nick> gypsyjoker:  ah ok ... that's as inexpensive as you can get then ... something to consider though is ... optical media is a dying technology ... USB sticks are the way to go ... 8 Gig sticks are really cheap now ;-)
[21:55] <Guest65378> i cant get my system tray loaded when i boot? any sugestions?
[21:55] <woo> bean__: ok im just gonna close everthing
[21:55] <woo> brb
[21:55] <gypsyjoker> Tex_Nick, yep, cheap enough. now if only i could actually customize the UI, i might like it a little better
[21:55] <cp_> woo:   checked with 'qps'?
[21:55] <|s-a|> Guest65378 , what do you mean by system tray ?
[21:56] <woo> that worked
[21:56] <woo> ty bean__
[21:56] <cp_> |s-a|:    I guess he means the "taksbar"
[21:57] <|s-a|> Guest65378 , what Desktop environment  are using ?
[21:57] <Guest65378> my computer says in an error message after boot "no system tray found on this computer" and on top it says hpslip
[21:58] <Solarra> well i have run out of troubleshooting time today folks try number 2 tonight
[21:59] <|s-a|> Guest65378 , sh -c "sleep 15; exec hp-systray"
[21:59] <orzel> hello. I have quite a lot of problems/crashes using libreoffice 4 on (k)ubuntu raring. I'd like to switch back to libreoffice 3.x. Is it possible ?
[21:59] <orzel> googling, i find lot of speech about 'ppa' but i dont really get it
[22:02] <cp_> orzel:    not sure, kubuntu 13.04 I'd think comes with 4.0, 12.04 comes with 3.0, out of the box, but if 13.04 has 4.0 and not 3, I'd think you'd not find it in the PPA, ppa= repositories
[22:02] <James_Epp> I am posting this in both the ubuntu and lubuntu channels:
[22:02] <James_Epp> I did a installation of both operating systems over a PxE server (desktop i386) to the same machine and in both instances I have a very strange result. After booting right after finishing the install, I have no network connectivity! Not even drivers or anything. I have no clue why this is happening. Anyone know a possible cause?
[22:03] <orzel> cp_: i'm using 13.04, and "apt-cache policy  libreoffice" only speaks about version 4
[22:03] <cp_> James_Epp:  ubuntu and lubuntu would be the same exact distribution, just a different desktop/window manager, so if one has issues, the other one would too
[22:04] <cp_> orzel:    I can see that, I have 12.04, and has 3.0
[22:04] <James_Epp> cp_: True, it just strikes me as odd.
[22:04] <James_Epp> cp_: Do you know why this is happening, however?
[22:06] <cp_> James_Epp:    well, -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43_-_No_Internet_access   <--- is what I did with my b43 broadcom card, and it worked fine after a reboot, even with a pcmcia or a internal
[22:06] <James_Epp> cp_: I have performed reboots, and nothing changes.
[22:06] <James_Epp> ifconfig eth0 down/up/arp does nothing as well
[22:08] <tyrog> orzel: Libroeffice crashes more than I would desire :P
[22:13] <ryan-c> can someone help me figure out why my nfs-kernel-server doesn't autostart on boot?
[22:13] <ryan-c> I'm using 112.04 LTS
[22:14] <|s-a|> !SERVICE
[22:14] <|s-a|> !rc
[22:15] <ryan-c> |s-a|: update-rc.d nfs-kernel-server enable didn't work, already tried that.
[22:15] <|s-a|> ryan-c , do you have the server installed ?
[22:16] <ryan-c> yes
[22:16] <ryan-c> `service nfs-kernel-server start` works
[22:16] <|s-a|> ryan-c if you start it manually does it work ?
[22:16] <|s-a|> ok i see
[22:17] <ryan-c> I didn't see anything apparent in the logs, and I've disabled everything in /etc/hosts.{allow,deny} for now.
[22:17] <|s-a|> what do : dmesg | grep nfs-server    , return ?
[22:17] <orzel> tyrog: yes. i'm hit by https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63517
[22:17] <ryan-c> |s-a|: nothing
[22:17] <orzel> i'm not the only one, but there seems to be really few people annoyed by this. And nobody will care :/
[22:17] <tyrog> orzel: For 13.04 you need to download LO3.6 and install it manually
[22:18] <orzel> tyrog:  that's what i wanna do, but i dont know how to do it / where to look. any hint / link ?
[22:18] <ryan-c> I've been trying to find something on google, but as far as I can tell there is no error message
[22:19] <|s-a|> ryan-c , it is starting
[22:19] <tyrog> orzel: Search for some tutorial for install Libreoffice 4 in Ubuntu 12.10. First tutorials that appeared talked about how to download it from the website and install manually. A similar procedure should apply to your scenario
[22:19] <ryan-c> |s-a|: It starts, but only if I start it manually.
[22:27] <wallzero> My machine has stopped logging. I reinstalled syslogd but it still isn't working.
[22:29] <th0r> wallzero: is this system online, a server or always on home system?
[22:29] <pnode> I am attempting to empty the rubbish bin but it is stuck on "Preparing"
[22:30] <pnode> how long does file management usually take normally ?
[22:30] <wallzero> th0r: Sorry, I think I just fixed it. Somehow busybox-syslogd had replaced rsyslog
[22:30] <pnode> is ubuntu slow usually when working with ntfs,fat partitions ?
[22:31] <pnode> also the free space numerics don't appear to update
[22:31] <th0r> wallzero: no problem. I was going to point out that logging is terminated when there is clandestine access to a server
[22:33] <wallzero> th0r: Haha, I am crossing my fingers that is not the case. I am in the middle of some upgrades and assume I was at fault
[22:33] <th0r> wallzero: you found a reasonable alternative, so I wouldn't worry too much. You can always take a few to run chkrootkit if you get nervous <smile>
[22:44] <steliosre> h
[22:45] <DrFoo> ssh-copy-id is trying to use my newly created id to authenticate into my server to copy my new key. How can I force a password login for ssh-copy-id
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> DrFoo:  Odd.. normally it asks for the password the first time here.
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> unless its using an old id you had copied over
[22:46] <ryan-c> |s-a|: nfs-kernel-server was failing to start due to a cryptdisk volume not working
[22:46] <|s-a|> ryan-c , nice :)
[22:46] <DrFoo> this is my first key
[22:47] <MonkeyDust> DrFoo  you mean a rsa-key? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys#Generating_RSA_Keys
[22:47] <ryan-c> |s-a|: I forgot to set noauto in /etc/crypttab - thought it would be enough to put noauto in /etc/fstab
[22:47] <DrFoo> yes.
[22:47] <ryan-c> working now
[22:48] <DrFoo> I thought it would prompt for the password so I could move the key over, but the client is trying to authenticate with the key...
[22:48] <DrFoo> and it's not on the server yet.
[22:48] <ryan-c> DrFoo: give it -vvv
[22:48] <|s-a|> ryan-c , good
[22:48] <|s-a|> ryan-c , btw where did you find the error ?
[22:49] <ryan-c> |s-a|: There was no error anywhere. I watched the console and I saw it prompting for a password for that volume and made a guess.
[22:49] <|s-a|> ok
[22:49] <DrFoo> could not resolve uname mask 077
[22:49] <ryan-c> DrFoo: ssh-copy-id -o PubkeyAuthentication=no host
[22:50] <ryan-c> that *might* work
[22:50] <DrFoo> i tried, but i'll try again....
[22:50] <ryan-c> DrFoo: Can you ssh in with a password at all?
[22:50] <DrFoo> yes
[22:51] <DrFoo> hmm.... I wonder if I can disable key login in the config, just until I can copy it to the server
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> I thought it would use the key if it worked.. and then ask the password if it dident
[22:52] <ryan-c> DrFoo: Yeah, you could do that in your ~/.ssh/config
[22:52] <Dr_Willis> unless the server is set to not allow password
[22:52] <urgodfather> hello... im having trouble connecting to secured networks. i can connect to unsecured with ease, however... with secured WEP WPA and WPA2 i cannot connect
[22:52] <urgodfather> Dr_Willis: if you could suggest a fix, you would be my hero
[22:53] <DrFoo> what's the difference between rhostsrsaauthentication and rsaauthentication?
[22:53] <Gabboz> Hi!  12.04 server. I have a 6Tb /home volume which df -h reports has 115Gb free. If I du -hs the directories in /home, it only adds up to around 4Tb.  Any ideas how I can track down the discrepancy?  Thanks.
[22:54] <ryan-c> DrFoo: You should have both of those disabled.
[22:55] <ryan-c> DrFoo: They're for SSHv1 which is insecure. PubkeyAuthentication is what SSHv2 uses.
[22:55] <ryan-c> Gabboz: You could have something mounted on top of a directory with files in it.
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> urgodfather:  i seem to recall this being a common bug ages ago.. ive never had to fight with it
[22:57] <Gabboz> ryan-c, so I would need the mounts command to reference that right?
[22:57] <ryan-c> 'mount' should show you
[22:57] <Gabboz> sry i meant that :)
[22:57] <urgodfather> Dr_Willis: i have been banging my head on my workbench trying to get this intel 6235 to work in ubuntu. i just figured out that its not the wireless thats the issue, instead its secured networks
[22:58] <DrFoo> wow. this blows... no dice
[22:58] <Gabboz> ryan-c, nothing looks out of place(to me anyway) .. can you either provide a URL or a light explanation on what you originally thought it might be?
[23:00] <bfig> hello, i'm trying to set up l2tp. I downloaded l2tp-ipsec-vpn but haven't been able to configure everything right
[23:00] <bfig> first of all, is there a better way to do this than with l2tp-ipsec-vpn?
[23:02] <BigFist> hi, i believe I'm having something what might be called a bug. Every second time i boot my computer, Ubuntu stops before login screen. There is a blinking cursor in the upper right corner, and there is a mouse pointer, but nothing more. Black screen. I can move mouse pointer all the time. But as long as i waited, nothing more happens. It happens in about 3/5 cases of booting.
[23:03] <|s-a|> BigFist , what about pastebining /var/log/X.* ?
[23:05] <BigFist> |s-a|: sure, what is the easiest way to pasteit, i remember there was some console application
[23:05] <|s-a|> pastebin :D
[23:05] <|s-a|> pastebinit
[23:06] <backbox> help plz, huwaei e173 cannot connect on mint 14
[23:07] <IdleOne> !mint
[23:07] <Gamore> hi all I just bought a Ubuntu Keyboard computer and while it was updating I kicked the power cord and turned it off... now when I turn it on I see the screen that I can get into recover mode from but then it just goes to a black screen is there anyway of fixing this?
[23:08] <Gamore> it does not have a CD drive and did not come with a disk but I can burn a disk and plug in a CD/DVD drive in with USB
[23:08] <BigFist> |s-a|: XOrg.0.log - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5685341/
[23:09] <BigFist> |s-a|: XOrg.0.log.old - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5685343/
[23:09] <Minty_> any information on install NVDIA driver for 650m on 13.04?
[23:10] <|s-a|> BigFist , the new one please :D
[23:11] <astropriate> any CSU students here?
[23:12] <DrFoo> ryan-c: i just modified the script... very easy and added the -o PubkeyAuthentication=no to the ssh line... worked like a charm
[23:13] <Minty_> what driver is save for NVIDIA 650M?
[23:13] <Roy_Ubuntu_13-04> does ecryptfs have to use the users password or can ecryptfs be set with a different password
[23:14] <BigFist> |s-a|: those are both newest, one from today, other from yesterday
[23:15] <MiniD> What is does "Use burnproof" in Ubuntu's default write to disc properties dialog do exactly. Should I enable it when burning a liveCD iso to a DVD?
[23:15] <|s-a|> ok
[23:16] <BigFist> |s-a|: i don't have more really, 1.log, 1.log.old (last mod - 16th of may), and 2.log (last mod - 24th of march)
[23:17] <BigFist> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5685357/ - 1.log
[23:17] <Gamore> I bought an Ubuntu Keyboard computer and as it was updating I kicked the power cord and turned it off and now when I turn it on I get the screen where I can enter rocover mode but then it goes to a black screen is this able to be fixed?
[23:17] <|s-a|> BigFist, yes i got it
[23:18] <BigFist> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5685367/ - 1.log.old, I'll skip this from march
[23:18] <BigFist> i just thought you might want to look there to, its just few days ago, and this problem started to occur somewhere then
[23:19] <steliosre> #kali-linux
[23:19] <steliosre> how can i get there?
[23:19] <bfig> mmm ipsec verify hangs :/ any ideas?
[23:20] <Minty_> anyone
[23:20] <Gabboz> Minty_, the ones offered by additional drivers should suffice
[23:21] <Minty_> Gabboz,  nothing shows up there
[23:21] <Minty_> i have an Gforce GT 650m
[23:21] <Loshki> MiniD: see e.g. http://www.iomega.com/support/documents/10576.html for a definition. Frankly, these days, if your pc is so slow as to need burnproof, then I wouldn't trust the burns it produces....
[23:22] <Gabboz> Minty_, might wanna read this.  http://eternalvoid.net/tutorials/linux-optimus-gt650m/
[23:22] <Minty_> ty
[23:23] <Minty_> aww yes bumblebee, i tried it, all try again
[23:23] <MiniD> Loshki: Thanks
[23:23] <|s-a|> BigFist , i can't find something that will delay xorg
[23:24] <|s-a|> maybe it is just a service causing this
[23:24] <BigFist> |s-a| what can i do next time this happens, can I do something from console?
[23:25] <|s-a|> BigFist , you can disable gdm autostart
[23:25] <|s-a|> BigFist , and then you can start it manually with some verbosity
[23:26] <|s-a|> if it works ok , it means that it is something else which will lead you too looking to various log files , maybe dmesg and messages BigFist
[23:27] <MiniD> Why is the Additional Drivers thing (I believe it is called Jockey) not included with Ubuntu 12.10, or am I missing something?
[23:28] <BluesKaj> MiniD:  it is included by default in 12.10
[23:28] <sere> jockey-gtk
[23:28] <BigFist> |s-a|: gdm or lightgm ?
[23:29] <|s-a|> BigFist , whatever you are using as login manager
[23:29] <BigFist> honestly I'm not sure, and I'm trying to find out, a second ago i had no idea what gdm is :P
[23:30] <BigFist> now i see, that in recent ubuntus gdm was replaced by lightdm, thats why I'm asking
[23:30] <BigFist> I have ubuntu 13.04
[23:31] <BigFist> this looks nice and easy (chosen answer): http://askubuntu.com/questions/151840/how-to-disable-gdm-from-being-automatically-started but it says about lightdm...
[23:31] <|s-a|> BigFist , cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[23:32] <BigFist> thx
[23:32] <BigFist> lightdm :)
[23:32] <|s-a|> just replace gdm with lightgdm when using update.rc (arrg am not familiar with ubuntu services )
[23:33] <Minty_> do i need primus?
[23:33] <BigFist> |s-a|: thank you for your time, and suggestion, I will switch my dm :P to manual start now and will see
[23:33] <MoPac> Howdy - has anybody else been seeing a regression in Raring of late where the power menu options popups fail?  E.g., when I click "shutdown", the new restart or shutdown choice popups appears for an instant, and then the machine just restarts without me having a choice
[23:34] <xilo> having a problem chsh on 13.04. i execute chsh -s /bin/zsh, doesn't give an error. but it's not changing my shell. any idea?
[23:35] <|s-a|> BigFist , also you can change your dm or get rid of it if it is causing those flashy problems :p
[23:35] <nerio> new job
[23:35] <nerio> horrible horrible month
[23:35] <nerio> simply terrible
[23:35] <|s-a|> xilo,doesn't : zsh simply issues zshell ?
[23:37] <xilo> nvm i had to logout of gnome session
[23:47] <cuddylier> How do I check the owner of a directory?
[23:47] <th0r> cuddylier: ls -l
[23:49] <cuddylier> th0r Thanks, If I change a directory from being root to a non privileged user such as 'cuddylier', would I need to give them permissions to execute items inside that directory, read and write?
[23:49] <|s-a|> for root no , for others yes
[23:49] <th0r> cuddylier: probably, and I would advise against playing with directories that are owned by root...they are that way for a reason
[23:56] <cuddylier> th0r If I made a new user and had files run under that, would I need to set a directories' owner to that user for it to be able to run files within it?
[23:57] <cuddylier> th0r Also, the directory was owned by root because I made it with root
[23:57] <sere> cuddylier: what are u trying to do ?
[23:57] <th0r> cuddylier: not sure what you mean or what you are trying to accomplish
[23:58] <cuddylier> I have a program which is currently running minecraft servers as root. Obviously this means users can run java executables which can go outside their server directory. The program has a mode where it can put each server as a seperate user so obviously it can't access outside of its directory. I need to run the program as a non privileged user to begin with and then users are created as servers are created to own directories.