| nixnine | hey guys, trying to install adobeair but i get this message to install gnome keyring but it is installed. any ideas | 01:19 |
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| Heyoka | Hi | 11:33 |
| camila_ | hello, i need help to install my webcam. I already try in cheese but its not working | 14:23 |
| zequence | !paste | 17:12 |
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| phserr | hi - I just installed ubuntustudio | 22:22 |
| phserr | and I'm having trouble stopping jack so I can see flash videos | 22:22 |
| zequence | phserr: killall -9 jackdbus | 22:24 |
| zequence | phserr: starting jack with qjackctl connects pulseaudio to jack by default | 22:24 |
| phserr | zequence: I thought of that, but shouldn't there be a friendlier way? | 22:25 |
| zequence | But, in order to make use of that, you need to make sure things are connected to jack also from the pulseaudio muxer | 22:25 |
| phserr | zequence: it does? because it freezes when I try to play youtube videos | 22:25 |
| zequence | phserr: It freezes while you are playing youtube videos, or after you start jack, open a web browser, and then try to play a youtube video? | 22:26 |
| zequence | There's a bug in pulseaudio, making it hard for jack to grab the card from pulse | 22:26 |
| zequence | There's a fix on its way | 22:26 |
| zequence | After that, things should work seemlessly. | 22:26 |
| phserr | zequence: freezes if jack is running and I try to play youtube | 22:27 |
| zequence | phserr: Was the youtube page open when you started jack? | 22:27 |
| phserr | and stoping jack with qjackctl does not help | 22:27 |
| phserr | no, it was not | 22:27 |
| zequence | Let me look at the details a bit.. | 22:28 |
| zequence | I need to fire up two separate versions | 22:28 |
| zequence | phserr: btw, which version of Ubuntu Studio is this? | 22:28 |
| phserr | zequence: 13.04 | 22:28 |
| zequence | Ah, ok. Then at least the PA jack thing is fixed | 22:29 |
| zequence | Just need to install some packages then | 22:29 |
| phserr | it's like jack is always active | 22:30 |
| phserr | even after i stop it with qjackctl | 22:30 |
| zequence | phserr: jackdbus is active all the time, yes | 22:30 |
| phserr | because if i exit it and open it again it shows "active" | 22:30 |
| phserr | ah, ok | 22:30 |
| zequence | You can however set qjackctl to not use jackdbus if you want | 22:31 |
| zequence | But then some things won't be supported, like the PA -> jack bridge | 22:31 |
| phserr | no, jack always on is actually good | 22:31 |
| zequence | Or, at least not automatically | 22:31 |
| phserr | I just don't have that much experience with audio tuned distros | 22:31 |
| phserr | so what it's the easier way for me, with this setup, to watch youtube/vimeo? | 22:32 |
| zequence | phserr: I can't reproduce your problem | 22:35 |
| zequence | For me, pulse never chokes | 22:35 |
| zequence | phserr: If you like running jack all the time, just do it | 22:35 |
| zequence | phserr: Check out qjackctl -> Connect | 22:35 |
| zequence | The only problem you may have though, is if you do really low latencies | 22:35 |
| zequence | You might get xruns with the PA connection | 22:36 |
| zequence | In qjackctl -> Connect, you should see "system" and "PulseAudio Jack <X>" | 22:36 |
| phserr | zequence: flash videos should just work? | 22:36 |
| zequence | Yes | 22:36 |
| phserr | theres no "PulseAudio Jack <X>" | 22:37 |
| zequence | Is jack running? | 22:37 |
| phserr | yes | 22:37 |
| phserr | just "system" | 22:37 |
| zequence | phserr: Do you have pulseaudio-module-jack installed? | 22:37 |
| zequence | It's installed by default | 22:37 |
| zequence | on Ubuntu Studio | 22:37 |
| phserr | yes, I do | 22:38 |
| zequence | phserr: Give me the output of: ps -eo comm | grep jack | 22:38 |
| phserr | jackd | 22:38 |
| phserr | jackdbus | 22:38 |
| phserr | qjackctl | 22:38 |
| phserr | qjackctl.real | 22:38 |
| zequence | There's one too many jacks there | 22:38 |
| zequence | That's probably your problem | 22:39 |
| zequence | Each time you start jack, make sure you do it with qjackctl | 22:39 |
| zequence | Meaning, don't open any other jack apps before starting jack with qjackctl | 22:39 |
| phserr | ok | 22:39 |
| zequence | Shut all jack apps down, including qjackctl, then kill the jacks | 22:39 |
| phserr | lesson learned | 22:39 |
| zequence | It's not really your fault | 22:39 |
| zequence | It's just the way the whole thing is arranged right now | 22:40 |
| zequence | To kill: killall -9 jack | 22:40 |
| zequence | killall -9 jackdbus | 22:40 |
| zequence | Make sure no jack is alive, again with: ps -eo comm | grep jack | 22:41 |
| phserr | just jackdbus now | 22:41 |
| zequence | Kill that too | 22:41 |
| zequence | You might even want to reset pulseaudio | 22:41 |
| zequence | you can do: pulseaudio -k | 22:41 |
| zequence | It should auto reload | 22:41 |
| zequence | So, when no jack is running, and you've reset pulseaudio, open qjackctl again, and start jack with it | 22:42 |
| zequence | ps -eo comm | grep jack | 22:42 |
| zequence | Should show jackdbus and qjackctl only | 22:43 |
| zequence | no jackd | 22:43 |
| phserr | hm | 22:43 |
| phserr | ok | 22:43 |
| phserr | it's that way now | 22:43 |
| phserr | try youtube | 22:44 |
| phserr | there's a "pulseaudio jack sink" in connect now | 22:45 |
| zequence | phserr: ok, so if you don't hear audio, check the pulseaudio mixer "pavucontrol" | 22:45 |
| zequence | It's what loads when you click "Sound Settings" under the volume applet | 22:45 |
| zequence | Or in the menu for it | 22:46 |
| zequence | Make sure the application is using jack sink as output | 22:46 |
| zequence | You also might want to make jack sink the default output in output devices, by setting it as the "Set as Fallback" | 22:46 |
| zequence | ..device | 22:46 |
| zequence | Now, any pulseaudio application you start will output to jack | 22:47 |
| zequence | pulseaudio in effect is a jack application | 22:47 |
| phserr | ok | 22:47 |
| phserr | did that | 22:47 |
| zequence | I mean, when you have this setup, PA is like a jack application | 22:47 |
| phserr | working perfectly now | 22:48 |
| phserr | thank you | 22:48 |
| zequence | np | 22:48 |
| zequence | phserr: I think patchage will start jackd if jackdbus isn't already running | 22:49 |
| zequence | So, that might be what caused it | 22:49 |
| phserr | probably | 22:49 |
| zequence | Or, some other jack application - I don't know | 22:49 |
| phserr | i clicked around to see the software already installed | 22:49 |
| zequence | We, the devs, have added that as a workitem for coming releases, to make sure jack is packaged in a sane way | 22:50 |
| zequence | so, perhaps by 13.10 or 14.04, all jack apps will just work, and in connection with PA | 22:50 |
| phserr | that's cool | 22:50 |
| phserr | btw, i'm a musician/developer and though i'm unexperienced in linux audio, i'd love to help this distro - seems like a nice project | 22:50 |
| zequence | phserr: You're more than welcome | 22:51 |
| zequence | We need more people | 22:51 |
| zequence | phserr: http://ubuntustudio.org/contribute/ | 22:51 |
| zequence | Or, basically, just login to #ubuntustudio-devel | 22:51 |
| phserr | ok | 22:52 |
| phserr | there's a mailing list too | 22:52 |
| phserr | i'll subscribe to that | 22:52 |
| phserr | and will see where I can lend a hand | 22:53 |
| zequence | phserr: This is our roadmap for next release https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-saucy-flavor-ubuntustudio | 22:54 |
| zequence | We work mostly independently, on things that we either like to do, or think we are good at doing | 22:55 |
| zequence | phserr: For pretty much all tasks, you need a dev release installed, and a launchpad account. Most of the admin stuff is done through launchpad | 22:56 |
| zequence | phserr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/SetupDeveloperEnvironment | 22:56 |
| zequence | If you can get that far, then there'll be plenty you could do | 22:56 |
| phserr | a lot to read | 22:56 |
| phserr | i will read that | 22:56 |
| phserr | once I feel confident | 22:56 |
| phserr | I will start contributing | 22:56 |
| zequence | phserr: If you don't like reading, setup a dev environment, and just go from there. There's not much to it really | 22:57 |
| zequence | Anyway, you're always welcome | 22:57 |
| phserr | yes, I will do that this weekend | 22:58 |
| phserr | and I will get in touch | 22:58 |
| phserr | thanks for your help again | 22:58 |
| phserr | really looking forward to making music in ubuntustudio ;) | 22:59 |
| zequence | :) | 22:59 |
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