[01:19] hey guys, trying to install adobeair but i get this message to install gnome keyring but it is installed. any ideas === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw [11:33] Hi [14:23] hello, i need help to install my webcam. I already try in cheese but its not working [17:12] !paste [17:12] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [22:22] hi - I just installed ubuntustudio [22:22] and I'm having trouble stopping jack so I can see flash videos [22:24] phserr: killall -9 jackdbus [22:24] phserr: starting jack with qjackctl connects pulseaudio to jack by default [22:25] zequence: I thought of that, but shouldn't there be a friendlier way? [22:25] But, in order to make use of that, you need to make sure things are connected to jack also from the pulseaudio muxer [22:25] zequence: it does? because it freezes when I try to play youtube videos [22:26] phserr: It freezes while you are playing youtube videos, or after you start jack, open a web browser, and then try to play a youtube video? [22:26] There's a bug in pulseaudio, making it hard for jack to grab the card from pulse [22:26] There's a fix on its way [22:26] After that, things should work seemlessly. [22:27] zequence: freezes if jack is running and I try to play youtube [22:27] phserr: Was the youtube page open when you started jack? [22:27] and stoping jack with qjackctl does not help [22:27] no, it was not [22:28] Let me look at the details a bit.. [22:28] I need to fire up two separate versions [22:28] phserr: btw, which version of Ubuntu Studio is this? [22:28] zequence: 13.04 [22:29] Ah, ok. Then at least the PA jack thing is fixed [22:29] Just need to install some packages then [22:30] it's like jack is always active [22:30] even after i stop it with qjackctl [22:30] phserr: jackdbus is active all the time, yes [22:30] because if i exit it and open it again it shows "active" [22:30] ah, ok [22:31] You can however set qjackctl to not use jackdbus if you want [22:31] But then some things won't be supported, like the PA -> jack bridge [22:31] no, jack always on is actually good [22:31] Or, at least not automatically [22:31] I just don't have that much experience with audio tuned distros [22:32] so what it's the easier way for me, with this setup, to watch youtube/vimeo? [22:35] phserr: I can't reproduce your problem [22:35] For me, pulse never chokes [22:35] phserr: If you like running jack all the time, just do it [22:35] phserr: Check out qjackctl -> Connect [22:35] The only problem you may have though, is if you do really low latencies [22:36] You might get xruns with the PA connection [22:36] In qjackctl -> Connect, you should see "system" and "PulseAudio Jack " [22:36] zequence: flash videos should just work? [22:36] Yes [22:37] theres no "PulseAudio Jack " [22:37] Is jack running? [22:37] yes [22:37] just "system" [22:37] phserr: Do you have pulseaudio-module-jack installed? [22:37] It's installed by default [22:37] on Ubuntu Studio [22:38] yes, I do [22:38] phserr: Give me the output of: ps -eo comm | grep jack [22:38] jackd [22:38] jackdbus [22:38] qjackctl [22:38] qjackctl.real [22:38] There's one too many jacks there [22:39] That's probably your problem [22:39] Each time you start jack, make sure you do it with qjackctl [22:39] Meaning, don't open any other jack apps before starting jack with qjackctl [22:39] ok [22:39] Shut all jack apps down, including qjackctl, then kill the jacks [22:39] lesson learned [22:39] It's not really your fault [22:40] It's just the way the whole thing is arranged right now [22:40] To kill: killall -9 jack [22:40] killall -9 jackdbus [22:41] Make sure no jack is alive, again with: ps -eo comm | grep jack [22:41] just jackdbus now [22:41] Kill that too [22:41] You might even want to reset pulseaudio [22:41] you can do: pulseaudio -k [22:41] It should auto reload [22:42] So, when no jack is running, and you've reset pulseaudio, open qjackctl again, and start jack with it [22:42] ps -eo comm | grep jack [22:43] Should show jackdbus and qjackctl only [22:43] no jackd [22:43] hm [22:43] ok [22:43] it's that way now [22:44] try youtube [22:45] there's a "pulseaudio jack sink" in connect now [22:45] phserr: ok, so if you don't hear audio, check the pulseaudio mixer "pavucontrol" [22:45] It's what loads when you click "Sound Settings" under the volume applet [22:46] Or in the menu for it [22:46] Make sure the application is using jack sink as output [22:46] You also might want to make jack sink the default output in output devices, by setting it as the "Set as Fallback" [22:46] ..device [22:47] Now, any pulseaudio application you start will output to jack [22:47] pulseaudio in effect is a jack application [22:47] ok [22:47] did that [22:47] I mean, when you have this setup, PA is like a jack application [22:48] working perfectly now [22:48] thank you [22:48] np [22:49] phserr: I think patchage will start jackd if jackdbus isn't already running [22:49] So, that might be what caused it [22:49] probably [22:49] Or, some other jack application - I don't know [22:49] i clicked around to see the software already installed [22:50] We, the devs, have added that as a workitem for coming releases, to make sure jack is packaged in a sane way [22:50] so, perhaps by 13.10 or 14.04, all jack apps will just work, and in connection with PA [22:50] that's cool [22:50] btw, i'm a musician/developer and though i'm unexperienced in linux audio, i'd love to help this distro - seems like a nice project [22:51] phserr: You're more than welcome [22:51] We need more people [22:51] phserr: http://ubuntustudio.org/contribute/ [22:51] Or, basically, just login to #ubuntustudio-devel [22:52] ok [22:52] there's a mailing list too [22:52] i'll subscribe to that [22:53] and will see where I can lend a hand [22:54] phserr: This is our roadmap for next release https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-saucy-flavor-ubuntustudio [22:55] We work mostly independently, on things that we either like to do, or think we are good at doing [22:56] phserr: For pretty much all tasks, you need a dev release installed, and a launchpad account. Most of the admin stuff is done through launchpad [22:56] phserr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/SetupDeveloperEnvironment [22:56] If you can get that far, then there'll be plenty you could do [22:56] a lot to read [22:56] i will read that [22:56] once I feel confident [22:56] I will start contributing [22:57] phserr: If you don't like reading, setup a dev environment, and just go from there. There's not much to it really [22:57] Anyway, you're always welcome [22:58] yes, I will do that this weekend [22:58] and I will get in touch [22:58] thanks for your help again [22:59] really looking forward to making music in ubuntustudio ;) [22:59] :)