[00:27] <Gnot> Xubuntu wont boot when i have an Ethernet cord connecting to the internet, has anyone heard of this before?
[00:28] <Unit193> Have you checked in the BIOS if netboot/PXE boot is enabled?
[00:28] <Unit193> (Shouldn't do that anyway, but...)
[00:28] <Gnot> not yet, ill try that thanks
[01:23] <nixnine> Hey guys, i am trying to install adobe air but it keeps telling me to install gnome keyring first.  I have that already installed though.  Any ideas?
[01:26] <bazhang> nixnine, adobe air support ended some good while ago
[02:42] <xubuntu284> hello
[02:58] <seronis> Q:  'man xscreensaver' claims you can use the -window argument and supply a window ID and it will draw there instead of fullscreen.  I used xwininfo to get the window ID of my desktop but xscreensaver isnt recognizing the ID. anyone able to help ?
[03:58] <seronis> nvm issue solved
[04:16] <xubuntu275> Hi everyone, I downloaded xubuntu-desktop on top of Ubuntu, now I'd just like to keep Xubuntu, is there any way of doing this?
[04:18] <xubuntu275> hi anyone
[04:19] <Unit193> !purexfce
[04:20] <xubuntu275> i have ubuntu with xubuntu-desktop on top of it. will it still work for me?
[04:20] <Unit193> That's the idea of it, but isn't perfect.
[04:20] <xubuntu275> Not perfect?
[04:27] <Unit193> Sure, but nothing really is.  That was made for Quantal, but shouldn't be too far off.
[04:54] <seronis> Quantal == xubuntu 12.10 for reference
[11:38] <patteh> i'm trying to make a custom terminal launcher for my launchbar using the flags specified in xfce docs to set the terminal title and execute an SSH connect
[11:39] <patteh> i'm using r click, properties, edit and then adding these flags to the command line box
[11:39] <patteh> but no matter which way around i put these flags i cannot get it to work
[11:39] <patteh> any tips?
[11:40] <th0r> patteh, try putting the entire thing in quotes?
[11:43] <patteh> this is my current command
[11:43] <patteh> xfce4-terminal --tab -T, --title=IRC; -X, --execute ssh "xxxx@xxxx.xxxx"
[11:46] <th0r> patteh, you don't need -x...it is the same as --execute and you can use either.
[11:47] <patteh> okay ty
[11:53] <gatsu1000> hi all
[11:53] <gatsu1000> need a little help out there... quite new to linux and can't find the cdrom... someone can help?
[11:54] <gatsu1000> i mean, can't find it as device to read a cd
[11:55] <gatsu1000> mmm, seems no one can help down there...
[11:56] <patteh> open file manager and check if its mounted
[11:56] <th0r> gatsu1000, sorry I was so slow...I was only half way through typing when that last comment came through
[11:56] <gatsu1000> thanks thor... and no patteh, i think it's not mounted at all
[11:58] <patteh> menu > settings > removeable devices and media
[11:59] <patteh> menu top left corner usually
[11:59] <gatsu1000> there are some options
[11:59] <gatsu1000> but not a list of devices
[12:00] <gatsu1000> i found some tips telling me to create a dir and modify the etc/fstab
[12:01] <gatsu1000> just tried, but it tells me to reboot the pc
[12:01] <gatsu1000> i will give it a shot...
[12:01] <gatsu1000> coming back in a min
[12:06] <gatsu1000> hi again
[12:06] <gatsu1000> nope, it haven't worked
[12:07] <gatsu1000> still no cdrom present
[12:09] <gatsu1000> thor, any clue?
[12:11] <th0r> gatsu1000, take the cd out of the drive, open a terminal, enter the command 'tail -f /var/log/syslog', put the cd in the drive and see if there is any indication in the log file that the drive is recognized.
[12:11] <th0r> gatsu1000, new lines should show automatically in the terminal as activity requires
[12:12] <gatsu1000> nope, no new lines
[12:13] <th0r> gatsu1000, then the drive isn't recognized. You need to determine what kind of drive it is, then what driver is requires, then add that driver to /etc/modules
[12:13] <patteh> does the drive spin up gatsu1000?
[12:13] <gatsu1000> yep, it spins
[12:14] <gatsu1000> mmm, it's an lg cd burner/dvd reader
[12:14] <patteh> k yeah do what th0r said
[12:14] <patteh> need model for proper driver
[12:14] <gatsu1000> erm... how?^^
[12:14] <th0r> gatsu1000, I would ask google
[12:14] <patteh> idd
[12:14] <patteh> or if you have windows on dual boot
[12:14] <patteh> load that and look there
[12:15] <patteh> for model etc
[12:15] <gatsu1000> don't have windows
[12:15] <gatsu1000> and the issue is really that: i was trying to load a virtualbox with winxp
[12:16] <Starcraftmazter> hi
[12:16] <gatsu1000> because TomTom decided to not support at all linux
[12:16] <Starcraftmazter> i just installed opensshd on xubuntu and i cant ssh into it
[12:16] <gatsu1000> and i need to update the maps in it
[12:16] <Starcraftmazter> even if i do ssh root@localhost it says connectioon reset by peer
[12:18] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, I think root login is disabled by default. Did you edit the sshd config file?
[12:20] <Starcraftmazter> th0r: i opened it, its blank
[12:21] <Starcraftmazter> if i do ssh myusername@localhost it does the same
[12:21] <Starcraftmazter> ive never really had to configure opensshd before after install, it just worked
[12:21] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, then something is amiss. There should be a default config file in /etc/ssh
[12:21] <Starcraftmazter> what do i need to do on xubuntu
[12:21] <Starcraftmazter> the file is there...its just blank
[12:22] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, the file is sshd_config and it should have been installed with the daemon
[12:23] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, if it is blank then I would suggest reinstalling the package
[12:23] <Starcraftmazter> ok
[12:24] <Starcraftmazter> th0r: whats the apt command for that
[12:25] <Starcraftmazter> nvm just did remove and install
[12:25] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, open Synaptic, remove openssh-server, make sure the config file is no longer in /etc/ssh (delete it if it is) then install the server again
[12:26] <Starcraftmazter> ok now the config is there
[12:26] <Starcraftmazter> how do i enable passwordl ogin
[12:27] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, you should be able to log in as user without editing.
[12:27] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, I would recommend not logging in as root, it is a security issue
[12:27] <Starcraftmazter> doesnt work, still says connection reset by peer
[12:28] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, is the server running? Open a terminal and type "ps ax | grep ssh' and see if sshd is there
[12:28] <nikola_> I happily just installed xubuntu on my mac, but can't figure out the notorious "right-click" - it appears control-click does something right-click-esque on my lower panel, but shift-click does something right-click-esque in the file browser...
[12:30] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, I believe you can start it with the command 'sudo service ssh start'
[12:31] <Starcraftmazter> yeh its running
[12:31] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, open a terminal in the server and try 'ssh localhost', see if you can even login locally
[12:32] <Starcraftmazter> no cant
[12:32] <Starcraftmazter> same thing
[12:33] <Starcraftmazter> basically a fresh xubuntu 13.04 install
[12:33] <Starcraftmazter> not really sure why it doesnt work
[12:33] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, What error does it give when you try localhost?
[12:33] <Starcraftmazter> Connection reset by peer
[12:34] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, are you sure it is running? there should be two lines in response to the ps ax command, one is the grep from the command, and the other should be sshd -D if I remember right
[12:34] <Starcraftmazter> yeh
[12:34] <Starcraftmazter> there's sshd -D, ssh-agent and grep
[12:35] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, try 'service ssh restart' and then try 'ssh localhost' again and see what it says
[12:35] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, you will need to use 'sudo service ssh restart'
[12:35] <Starcraftmazter> same thing
[12:36] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, do you have firewall rules in the server?
[12:36] <Starcraftmazter> i haven't added any, i have no idea what xubuntu comes with as ive never used it before
[12:36] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, it shouldn't have any by default
[12:36] <Starcraftmazter> it doesnt come with selinux or anything like that does it
[12:36] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, no
[12:38] <Starcraftmazter> ah i was looking at ssh_config and didnt realise
[12:38] <Starcraftmazter> umm
[12:38] <Starcraftmazter> what needs to be enabled to allow password authentication
[12:38] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, it is empty, isn't it <smile>....I was just getting there
[12:38] <Starcraftmazter> maybe its disabled by default now
[12:38] <Starcraftmazter> no its not empty
[12:38] <Starcraftmazter> :P
[12:38] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, no, if it is the default file there is no editing necessary out of the box
[12:39] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, but you need to restart the server to make it reread the file. Did you use sudo with the service restart?
[12:39] <Starcraftmazter> about 10 times
[12:40] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, and if you simply 'ssh localhost' on the xubuntu box it doesn't connect.....that says it isn't running....how aggravating
[12:41] <Starcraftmazter> if it makes you feel any better, i can telnet it from another computer on port 22 and get the openssh welcome msg
[12:43] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, then it is running. That at least makes me feel a bit better <smile>. it is a problem with ssh then.
[12:43] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, is the ssh_config file in /etc/ssh also empty?
[12:43] <Starcraftmazter> no
[12:44] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, it hasn't been edited, has it?
[12:44] <Starcraftmazter> nope
[12:44] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, try 'ssh -p 22 localhost' and see if that works
[12:44] <Starcraftmazter> man this is really annoying, an entire night of productivity has been ruioned
[12:44] <Starcraftmazter> no same result
[12:45] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, just a check....'
[12:45] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, just a check...'iptables -L'...make sure the firewall is off
[12:46] <Starcraftmazter> ah
[12:46] <th0r> although I think localhost bypasses it anyway
[12:46] <Starcraftmazter> hang on
[12:46] <Starcraftmazter> myu face when
[12:46] <Starcraftmazter> just checked the logs
[12:46] <Starcraftmazter> auth.log
[12:46] <Starcraftmazter> man
[12:46] <Starcraftmazter> could not load host key
[12:46] <Starcraftmazter> 3 errors
[12:47] <Starcraftmazter> thats weird
[12:47] <bekks> Yeah, its weird to use enter that often :)
[12:47] <Starcraftmazter> not for me 8)
[12:47] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, the key should have been created at install. You might need to delete any old keys to get the new one recognized
[12:47] <bekks> For all others, it is.
[12:47] <bekks> Starcraftmazter: Check wether the missing key exists, under a different filename.
[12:48] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, this is a new install. Just delete ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[12:48] <Starcraftmazter> the files it gives are ssh_host_rsa/dsa/ecdsa_key
[12:48] <Starcraftmazter> which are all blank
[12:49] <bekks> And those filenames arent recognized at all.
[12:49]  * Starcraftmazter shrugs
[12:49] <Starcraftmazter> should i delete them
[12:49] <bekks> ssh-keygen -t dsa
[12:49] <Starcraftmazter> but im not using keys
[12:50] <bekks> The ssh server has to identify itself - so you actually are using keys, always :)
[12:50] <Starcraftmazter> well i did that, still those same 3 error messages
[12:50] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, I think the key error is on the client side, it is looking for old keys. Try deleting that file I mentioned
[12:51] <bekks> Starcraftmazter: Which error messages...?
[12:51] <Starcraftmazter> theres no known_hosts file
[12:51] <Starcraftmazter> let me log onto irc from the server
[12:52] <Starcraftmazter2> http://pastebin.com/ykcdnNTN
[12:53] <bekks> Check that filenames. At least one of them does not exist, from what you told us earlier.
[12:53] <bekks> And if those files are empty, they are useless.
[12:53] <Starcraftmazter> no...i said known_hosts doesnt exist
[12:53] <Starcraftmazter> all those 3 exist and are empty
[12:53] <Starcraftmazter> should i delete them?
[12:54] <xubuntu837> hello can anyone help me? i have installed cairo dock in my xubuntu and it runs great but when i am starting the computer always on the startup it starts double times
[12:54] <bekks> Starcraftmazter: Your choice. You have to have valid keys.
[12:54] <Starcraftmazter> what are the keyboard shortcuts to cut and paste in xubuntu terminal
[12:54] <Starcraftmazter> bekks: what are you suggesting?
[12:54] <xubuntu837> so i have to close the one dock via task manager lol or via the menu right click on the dock and quit and just remains the one dock
[12:55] <bekks> Starcraftmazter: Recreate valid keys.
[12:55] <th0r> xubuntu837, either remove it from autostart or save the session when it isn't running.
[12:55] <Starcraftmazter> bekks: how?
[12:56] <Starcraftmazter> screw it ima get rid of the ssh dir and reinstall al lthe packages
[12:56] <bekks> Starcraftmazter: I dont know how those keys where generated. ssh-keygen -t dsa will create new keys, in a normal ssh environment. Which you dont have, I guess.
[12:56] <bekks> Starcraftmazter: That will not help. Thats not windows.
[12:56] <bekks> Starcraftmazter: reinstalling software literally never will recreate your personal config.
[12:57] <Starcraftmazter> i didnt create any personal copnfig
[12:57] <Starcraftmazter> this is a _new_ xubuntu install
[12:57] <Starcraftmazter> i dont understand why opensshd doesnt just work out of the box like every other distro ive ever used
[12:57] <xubuntu837> th0r thank you but how i check anyway the autostarts?i knew in the windows i could just cmd==>and msconfig
[12:57] <bekks> Those keys mentioned on your error messages do not exist in a default xubuntu config.
[12:57] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, it should. I wonder why the keys and the config files are all empty files on that server
[12:58] <th0r> xubuntu837, Menu - Settings - Sessions and Autostart
[12:58] <Starcraftmazter> well i dont know what to tell you guys, i guess i must have obtained the xubuntu iso from a parallel universe
[12:58] <th0r> xubuntu837, if it isn't in autostart you saved a session while two docks were running. Again, save a session with no docks running
[12:59] <bekks> Starcraftmazter: Why dont you just recreate valid keys then?
[12:59] <Starcraftmazter> bekks: i already ran the command you mentioned twice, it did not solve the error
[12:59] <Starcraftmazter> im reinstalling ssh, will advice once it finishes
[12:59] <bekks> Starcraftmazter: Of course it doesnt. Because you have to modify your config.
[12:59] <xubuntu837> th0r thanks :) still 20 days on xubuntu and i am so noob :)
[13:00] <Starcraftmazter> would have been good if you mentioned that..
[13:00] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, I don't think that will help as it won't overwrite existing keys
[13:00] <Starcraftmazter> i dont have any keys, i got rid of the ssh dir
[13:00] <bekks> Starcraftmazter: It is very obvious, since my command displays different filenames than those in your error message.
[13:01] <Starcraftmazter> you're gonna hate this bekks
[13:01] <Starcraftmazter> but reinstalling ssh metapackage fixed everything
[13:01] <bekks> Because it writes a default new config, which means: you have modified your config and broke it.
[13:01] <Starcraftmazter> no, i never touched it
[13:02] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, someone did
[13:02] <Starcraftmazter> you also said reinstalling wont fix it >_>
[13:02] <Starcraftmazter> well this server is brand new, its never been connected to the internet before, and its in my room
[13:02] <Starcraftmazter> i just highly doubt that
[13:02] <bekks> Starcraftmazter: However. You had a modified, broken ssh config.
[13:02] <Starcraftmazter> yes - but it was already broken
[13:03] <Starcraftmazter> next question, why wont it let me ssh with root
[13:03] <Starcraftmazter> as in, it claims the password is wrong
[13:03] <bekks> Because there is no valid root account in Ubuntu.
[13:03] <Starcraftmazter> urgh
[13:03] <Starcraftmazter> is there any way around that
[13:04] <th0r> Starcraftmazter, and root login is disabled in ssh server by default
[13:04] <bekks> And ssh as root should be prosecuted and sentenced with no less than 10y of prison.
[13:04] <bekks> Starcraftmazter: Use sudo.
[13:04] <Starcraftmazter> theres no difference between logging in with my user and elevating priviledges
[13:04] <Starcraftmazter> it requires the exact same information
[13:04] <Starcraftmazter> just extra steps
[13:05] <bekks> There is a heavy differency in terms of security.
[13:11] <Starcraftmazter> why cant i find the libcurl-devel package
[13:11] <bekks> Because it isnt named like that.
[13:11] <Starcraftmazter> okey, what is it named?
[13:12] <bekks> libcurl-dev :)
[13:12] <Starcraftmazter> i still cant find it :/
[13:13] <bekks> Starcraftmazter: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libcurl&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all
[13:15] <Starcraftmazter> libcurl4-openssl-dev?
[13:15] <Starcraftmazter> ;_____;
[13:15] <bekks> If thats what you want - yes.
[13:15] <Starcraftmazter> i want non confusing package names ;________________;
[13:15] <bekks> The names are obvious. -gnutls-dev and -nss-dev -- depending on what you want, you have to choose.
[14:06] <Starcraftmazter> why am i being prompted with a login screen of a sudden and i cant log in
[14:07] <Starcraftmazter> nvm
[14:10] <Starcraftmazter> how can i make xubuntu boot into non gui mode by default?
[14:19] <Farnots> Just a question :  Xubuntu is more faster than a classic Ubuntu ? It's for a little netbook.
[14:19] <elfy> Farnots: in my experience it is
[14:20] <Farnots> Ok cool and i've only 1go of ram. It's good ? (yeh i know it's ridiculous ^^ )
[14:21] <elfy> I use it on an old laptop with less than that :)
[14:21] <Farnots> Haaaa ok good it's perfect :)
[14:22] <Farnots> Thanks for your help.
[14:22] <elfy> welcome
[14:24] <elfy> Starcraftmazter: I believe that removing quiet splash and using text instead in /etc/default/grub will do that
[14:26] <elfy> Starcraftmazter: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text" then update grub
[14:31] <Starcraftmazter> elfy: whats update grub?
[14:31] <Starcraftmazter> grub2-update doesnt work
[14:32] <elfy> sudo update-grub
[14:32] <elfy> just checked in vm - worked here
[14:32] <nikola_> I have sound from my built-in speakers, but sound isn't working from the headphones
[14:32] <Starcraftmazter> cheers
[14:33] <nikola_> pulseaudio volume control shows the sound levels moving just fine when headphones are plugged in, but i cant hear anything - any ideas?
[14:33] <Starcraftmazter> elfy: it did not seem to work, still loads xfce
[14:33] <nikola_> (everything looks fine in alsamixer if that is relevent - the speakers are on full, and my volume buttons seem to control the master level - mic isnt muted, etc)
[14:40] <elfy> Starcraftmazter: well I'm not sure what you've done exactly - but it worked fine here, booted to terminal, removed it and it's back to login screen
[14:44] <Starcraftmazter> urgh errr
[14:45] <Starcraftmazter> elfy: i did do update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[14:45] <elfy> oh yea I can see exactly where I said that
[14:46] <Starcraftmazter> this was previously :P
[14:46] <Starcraftmazter> do you think that would effect it?
[14:47] <elfy> no idea - but what version of xubuntu are you using ? can't remember when we went to lightdm
[14:47] <Starcraftmazter> 13.04
[14:47] <elfy> and you're using or were using gdm?
[14:48] <Starcraftmazter> its whatever the default was
[14:48] <Starcraftmazter> i read that bit of advice on some forum
[14:48] <Starcraftmazter> doesnt seem to have done the trick
[14:49] <elfy> well if you've got a default 13.04 it won't have gdm but lightdm
[14:50] <Starcraftmazter> okey
[14:50] <elfy> I'd try and undo what you've done :)
[14:50] <Starcraftmazter> well thats all i did
[14:50] <Starcraftmazter> if it doesnt have gdm then i did nothing
[14:50] <Starcraftmazter> :P
[14:51] <elfy> well then I've no idea why it doesn't work there but does here
[14:51] <elfy> sorry
[14:51] <Starcraftmazter> ok ;(
[14:56] <Starcraftmazter> elfy: i just had a look, text wasnt in the kernel options
[14:56] <Starcraftmazter> for some reason
[14:57] <elfy> Starcraftmazter: check the /etc/default/grub file again - edit if necessary - update-grub
[14:58] <elfy> or you can reboot - then e at grub and edit the line insitu at grub and see if it works
[14:58] <peyam> if you wana update the grub look here : http://kurdiskingenjor.wordpress.com/2013/05/04/ubuntu-doesnt-work-grub-rescue-after-installing-ubuntu-xubuntu-kubuntu/
[14:58] <elfy> peyam: that's not the issue :)
[14:58] <peyam> sorry. I just came ! :)
[14:58] <elfy> s'ok :)
[15:02] <Starcraftmazter> so what does update-rc.d -f gdm remove do
[15:02] <Starcraftmazter> if anything
[15:02] <elfy> it used to once upon a time remove a gdm symlink apparently
[15:02] <Starcraftmazter> interesting
[15:04] <elfy> not completely sure tbh - was just reading - anyway have you got the file edited properly? if you're not sure then cat /etc/default/grub |pastebinit
[15:04] <elfy> and give us the url
[15:05] <Starcraftmazter> yes it works
[15:05] <elfy> k
[15:05] <Starcraftmazter> but now my graphics cards are uninitialised or something
[15:05] <Starcraftmazter> but it was doing that prior
[15:05] <Starcraftmazter> but after i did the gdm thing
[15:05] <Starcraftmazter> :/
[15:07] <elfy> Starcraftmazter: you're not having a lot of luck - I see a whole lot of scrollback re ssh and stuff as well
[15:08] <Starcraftmazter> yeeeeeh
[15:08] <Starcraftmazter> fixing things one by one
[15:09] <elfy> Starcraftmazter: why did you want to boot to terminal rather than login screen?
[15:12] <Starcraftmazter> because i dont need the gui
[15:12] <Starcraftmazter> that is happening fine now, but im just wondering how i've stuffed up X
[15:12] <elfy> well hopefully you'll have done everything in a terminal so you can backtrack :)
[15:14] <Starcraftmazter> heh...
[15:37] <Net-1> Are skype working on Xubuntu 13.04 ?
[15:39] <Net-1> I dont finde skype in the software center.
[15:45] <elfy> Net-1: yea you can install it - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[15:47] <Net-1> elfy: Will skype be available in the software center again ?
[15:48] <elfy> it will be if you enable the partner repository
[15:48] <Net-1> What is that ?
[15:49] <elfy> read the wiki link I gave you :)
[15:59] <Net-1> elfy: So i have to use a command to enable the partner repository ? Is it on a meny some place ?
[16:00] <elfy> settings - software sources - other software
[16:01] <elfy> then reload however you do that in software centre - no idea personally, don't use it, then skype will be there
[16:08] <xubuntu138> I have a laptop without usb boot and a broken cd-rom but supports network boot
[16:09] <xubuntu138> can i install xubuntu on it?
[16:10] <knome> !install
[16:40] <bullgard4> Where can I find a schedule for Ubuntu Open Week 2013? http://is.gd/8rtIi does not answer this question.
[16:42] <Pici> bsk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[16:42] <Pici> bsk: sorry
[16:43] <bsk> Pici: no problem
[17:08] <xubuntuNewb> Hi, I'm having trouble with GRUB.  I've tried to get it to overwrite the windows bootloader but nothing happens.  To get into xubuntu I have to 'root (hd0,2)' and 'kernel * root=/dev/sdd3' etc. every time.
[17:22] <xubuntu238> Hi all
[17:22] <elfy> !hi
[17:23] <xubuntu238> I'm having trouble with GRUB.  I've tried to get it to overwrite the windows bootloader but nothing happens.  To get into xubuntu I have to 'root (hd0,2)' and 'kernel * root=/dev/sdd3' etc. every time.  :(
[17:24] <xubuntu238> sorry to be a mouth-breathing-noob... I'm not really familiar with irc either
[17:28] <elfy> you're fine - you miught need to be patient for someone who can help you to come along though
[17:28] <pleia2> xubuntu238: what file are you editing to accomplish this?
[17:28] <elfy> I assume that this is a win8/xubuntu dual boot though
[17:29] <elfy> or uefi/efi somehow
[17:31] <xubuntu238> Yeah it's win8 and xubuntu 12.04.  I'm not actually editing any file.  I'm just typing at the 'grub>' prompt.
[17:31] <xubuntu238> thx :)
[17:33]  * elfy doesn't know much about efi and boot I'm afraid
[17:35] <elfy> my old grub install command is unlikely to be of much help currently
[17:35] <xubuntu238> I don't think the grub loader installed on the main partition. I tried to overwrite windows bootloader with grub by selecting the main drive for grub, but it didn't work.
[17:37] <xubuntu238> I wouldn't think so.  I'm sure grub2 installed on the os, but it didn't write to the mbr.
[17:39] <elfy> you could try - sudo grub-install /dev/sda then sudo update-grub if the first works
[17:39] <elfy> but I doubt it'll work
[17:41] <xubuntu238> Cheers, I will try it
[17:42] <elfy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[17:44] <xubuntu238> elfy, it looks like it probably worked, but I'll have to reboot to see :D
[17:44] <elfy> good luck then :)
[17:45] <elfy> xubuntu238: you did do both?
[17:48] <xubuntu238> Yep, I did both, and the update found the linux kernels and the windows 8 loader.
[17:48] <elfy> k
[17:48] <elfy> good luck then :)
[17:49] <xubuntu238> will report back
[17:56] <Mouth-Breathing-> no joy :(
[17:59] <Mouth-Breathing-> Might be because I used /dev/sdd as that's my primary drive. I'll try it again as /dev/sda
[19:31] <xubuntu572> a quick question on xubuntu 13.04
[19:33] <xubuntu572> trying to install google chrome browser and it gives me a dependsie of libudev0 >0.47
[19:34] <holstein> xubuntu572: are you up to date? i would do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and try using something like gdebi-gtk that might help with dep's
[19:36] <xubuntu572> just installed and did software update, should be already accomplished, chromium was installed successfully
[19:38] <holstein> xubuntu572: and you still have the error? i remember trying to install chrome in 13.04 when i was beta testing and seeing that issue.. its really something that chrome will be responsible for making sure 13.04 can run
[19:40] <xubuntu572> thanks for help
[22:10] <xubuntu406> hi
[22:10] <ochosi> !hi
[22:10] <xubuntu406> i just updated to xubuntu 12.10, but u have aproblem
[22:11] <Noskcaj> xubuntu406, you might want to go to 13.04
[22:11] <Noskcaj> !raring
[22:11] <Noskcaj> or back to 12.04.2
[22:11] <Noskcaj> !precise
[22:11] <xubuntu406> the system already connected to wifi but unable to open any page.
[22:12] <Noskcaj> xubuntu406, strange, that sounds like a bug in your modem though
[22:12] <xubuntu406> before upgrading every thing worked fine. but now although the wifi conected, but i canot open aything
[22:13] <Unit193> If you open a terminal and type in  dig xubuntu.org  what's the output?
[22:14] <Noskcaj> i have no ideas, other than use either 12.04 or 13.04
[22:15] <xubuntu406> i have not tried dig xubutnu.org
[22:15] <xubuntu406> but itried opening google.com
[22:17] <Unit193> Yes, but try using the  dig  command with google.com, and tell us what the output is.
[22:18] <xubuntu406> i am on windows mode, i have to restart to switch to xubuntu.
[22:19] <Unit193> Seems like it may be your DNS.
[22:19] <xubuntu406> but i am now on windows i dont have any problem
[22:20] <xubuntu406> before upgraidng to 12.10 everything was ok