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kyhwana | hrm, going through the juju getting started at https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/getting-started.html in 12.04, trying to use lxc, in "In ~/.juju/environments.yaml, add a section for type "local":" I get error: environment "sample" has an unknown provider type "local" when I run juju bootstrap | 09:20 |
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kyhwana | (i've got LXC already setup with network bridging) | 09:21 |
sidnei | kyhwana: the go port (1.x) does not support the local provider yet, you have to use the python version (0.7.x) | 11:24 |
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jcastro | Daviey: want to talk juju SRUs with me? | 13:04 |
Daviey | jcastro: no. But can do. | 13:05 |
jcastro | hah | 13:05 |
jcastro | G+? | 13:05 |
Daviey | jcastro: OK | 13:05 |
Daviey | jcastro: you initiate ? | 13:05 |
jcastro | it's ringing | 13:06 |
Daviey | is it? | 13:06 |
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jcastro | mgz: ping | 13:24 |
fdehay | Hi Do you know if juju1.10 supports ec2-uri parameter in environments.yml for ec2 type cloud that are not ec2 (ie cloudstack)? | 13:33 |
mgz | jcastro: hey | 13:52 |
jcastro | heya | 13:52 |
jcastro | so ... let's talk backport/SRU/whatever of everything to LTS | 13:52 |
jcastro | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5739061 | 13:52 |
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jcastro | users are running into problems | 13:52 |
jcastro | so I'm going to chase down the SRU for maas. | 13:53 |
jcastro | and I'm thinking everything should be 12.04-able | 13:53 |
mgz | so... we can probably take the juju-0.7 and juju-1.10 packages to backports, I don't see the value in working off older versions | 13:53 |
jcastro | I agree | 13:54 |
jcastro | Daviey had some concerns about the update-alternatives | 13:54 |
jcastro | how would it work | 13:54 |
jcastro | is it like the PPA where we'd still default to .7 but allow the switch to 1.10? | 13:54 |
mgz | well, it currently leaves it on juju-0.7 by default | 13:54 |
jcastro | that's fine | 13:55 |
mgz | and reqires a user running a command to switch, so should be fine for the install from distro case with pyjuju | 13:55 |
jcastro | that seems fine to me | 13:55 |
Daviey | mgz: I was thinking it might make sense to backport co-installability aswell | 13:56 |
mgz | yeah, we should just base off the raring work | 13:57 |
jcastro | is .7 as an SRU and 1.10 as a backport a good idea? Or stick both in backports? | 13:57 |
mgz | either sounds possible, whatever the distro guys prefer | 13:58 |
jcastro | mgz: do you have time to drive this? | 13:59 |
jcastro | I really have nothing to offer other than "we need to fix this, someone help me oh please god." | 13:59 |
mgz | probably, but I can't do much past the putting a branch up for review, someone else with powers needs to do the kicking | 14:01 |
jcastro | if you can get me a branch and CC me on it, I can hunt down and kick | 14:01 |
fdehay | hi again, can someone help me with the differences between pyjuju and juju-core in terms of coverage in functionnality? | 14:34 |
fdehay | ie: does juju-core support non-ec2 ec2 compatible cloud? (cloudstack) - I get an error using ec2-uri parameter in a new environemnt of type ec2 | 14:37 |
mgz | fdehay: don't think anyone has tested cloudstack specifically, but the ec2 and s3 endpoints are hardcoded to aws, yeah | 14:45 |
mgz | if you want to install from source it would be reasonably easy to play with that, at least you can report a bug against juju-core | 14:46 |
fdehay | thanks, we need to use cloudstack (internal cloud for now) so we will test juju using 0.7 for now I suppose | 14:47 |
fdehay | I can try to report a bug againt juju-core (never tried before :)) | 14:48 |
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mgz | you have a launchpad account? just go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+filebug | 14:50 |
fdehay | ok submitted https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1182508 hope it clear enough :) | 14:57 |
_mup_ | Bug #1182508: juju cannot connect to cloudstack (non-ec2 ec2 cloud) <cloudstack> <ec2> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1182508> | 14:57 |
wedgwood | marcoceppi: I remember at UDS we had someone offer to help with charm-helpers refactoring | 15:06 |
wedgwood | marcoceppi: I can't recall who | 15:06 |
marcoceppi | wedgwood: Was it one of the gui guys? | 15:06 |
wedgwood | marcoceppi: may have been. if you don't know either I'll go back to the video | 15:07 |
marcoceppi | wedgwood: Oh, during UDS. yeah, I can't recall but it should be in the video | 15:07 |
wedgwood | marcoceppi: it's in the notes, thankfully. it was bac | 15:10 |
marcoceppi | ah, perfect | 15:10 |
wedgwood | bac: I'm ready to land a pile of changed in charm-helpers if you're interested in reviewing | 15:10 |
wedgwood | s/changed/changes/ | 15:10 |
bac | wedgwood: otp. be with you shortly | 15:11 |
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arosales | jcastro, I think roaksoax was motivated after yesterday's chat and wrote up | 16:04 |
arosales | http://www.roaksoax.com/2013/05/getting-started-with-maas-and-juju | 16:04 |
mattyw | in juju-core is there somewhere I can view the whole debug-log? I was supposed to watch my env come up using "juju debug-log" - but forgot and now it's bringing everything up | 16:20 |
mattyw | ^^ /var/log/juju/all-machines.log | 16:28 |
AskUbuntu | How can I see the juju-core debug-log without tailing it? | http://askubuntu.com/q/298273 | 16:40 |
marcoceppi | mattyw: thanks for documentating that on AU! | 16:41 |
mattyw | marcoceppi, no problem, I was sure I'd been told to put stuff like that on AU | 16:46 |
mattyw | marcoceppi, didn't realise there was a bot to put it here - that's cool | 16:46 |
mattyw | AskUbuntu, I guess you're a bot? | 16:46 |
marcoceppi | It is, but it's nice to have it in a "more visable" place, since Google doesn't index irclogs very well | 16:47 |
sarnold | irc's only twenty years old, give them some time.. | 16:47 |
jcastro | sarnold: yeah but we also get metrics on AU | 16:54 |
jcastro | so in say, 6 months if that question has 10k views, we know we suck at making that feature visible, etc. | 16:54 |
sarnold | jcastro: heh, maybe, I've viewed a lot of questions just cause they sounded neat. :) | 16:55 |
sarnold | 50 upvotes, yeah.. :) | 16:55 |
jcastro | well then, a mindshare win on top of that, awww yeah! | 16:55 |
mattyw | jcastro, you got a moment? | 17:18 |
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jcastro | I'm on a call but I can listen on IRC. :) | 17:24 |
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jcastro | hey marcoceppi | 18:11 |
jcastro | with tinytiny rss almost done | 18:12 |
marcoceppi | jcastro: yo | 18:12 |
jcastro | all we're missing is a jabber charm | 18:12 |
jcastro | "Big company shutting down services you use? No worries, I got your back." | 18:12 |
marcoceppi | ejabberd would make a nice charm | 18:12 |
sidnei | jcastro: did you see this one? http://www.holovaty.com/writing/aws-notes/ | 19:19 |
sidnei | jcastro: also unrelated, but i'd love to see a mention of juju on http://devopsweekly.com/ | 19:21 |
sidnei | marcoceppi: ^ | 19:23 |
marcoceppi | sidnei: Yeah, there was a HN article about it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5738252 jcastro was all over it | 19:23 |
sidnei | marcoceppi: what about the devops weekly one? | 19:26 |
marcoceppi | sidnei: I'm not familiar with them, but it would probably be good to be mentioned on there | 19:27 |
marcoceppi | Might be a good place to get mentioned when we have a stronger puppet/chef story since then seem to favor those a lot | 19:28 |
adam_g | hmm | 19:33 |
adam_g | hazmat, 0.7+bzr628+bzr629~raring1 from PPA is installing an empty package, similar to txzookeeper last week | 19:34 |
hazmat | ugh | 19:34 |
hazmat | adam_g, i don't think that's the issue here though, but noted, i'll take a look | 19:34 |
adam_g | hazmat, nah, i just noticed a raring deployment failed because it was missing the config-get binary | 19:36 |
adam_g | hazmat, actually maybe its not entirely empty (the agent at least is running) but the binaries are missing | 19:39 |
adam_g | bins are going into /usr/lib/juju-0.7+bzr628+bzr629~raring1/bin/ instead of /usr/bin/ | 19:42 |
hazmat | looks like mgz tweaked the recipe... | 19:43 |
hazmat | er.. the packaging. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~juju/ubuntu/raring/juju/0.7/revision/41 | 19:44 |
hazmat | adam_g, i'm redoing the build now.. for precise since it failed.. | 19:46 |
hazmat | but i might need to revert on the packaging changes as well.. tbd | 19:46 |
adam_g | hazmat, hmph, cant imagine how that packaging change would cause that | 19:50 |
hazmat | adam_g, well it was previously doing 0.7+revno.. so there are some changes in there from the last 8hrs | 19:51 |
hazmat | agreed its strange | 19:51 |
hazmat | greetings KyleMacDonald | 19:51 |
KyleMacDonald | hey dude | 19:51 |
jcastro | marcoceppi: hey so | 20:39 |
marcoceppi | jcastro: yeah? | 20:39 |
jcastro | did the stack problem with removign drupal6 from the store get resolved? | 20:39 |
marcoceppi | jcastro: no, I need lynxman to help out but he's not on IRC | 20:39 |
marcoceppi | Since it's stacked on /his/ branch | 20:39 |
jcastro | anyone have his contact info? | 20:40 |
marcoceppi | jcastro: I don't, but based on his lp account I can assume his jabber is his email. If not I can just open a bug and assign it to him in hopes he gets it | 20:41 |
jcastro | can you fire off an email? | 20:41 |
jcastro | I think he'd just Do It. | 20:42 |
marcoceppi | jcastro: yeah, firing now | 20:42 |
jcastro | <3 thanks | 20:42 |
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arosales | marcoceppi, I don't see a drupal bug for the removal for the charm store | 21:20 |
arosales | https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/precise/+source/drupal6 | 21:20 |
arosales | marcoceppi, could you confirm | 21:20 |
marcoceppi | arosales: created | 21:21 |
arosales | marcoceppi, ok, perhaps it is taking some time to propagate to https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/precise/+source/drupal6 | 21:22 |
marcoceppi | arosales: this is the actual link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/drupal6 | 21:22 |
arosales | ah ok so not specific to the precise branch | 21:23 |
marcoceppi | the specific precise branch is "gone" due to unpromulgation, but it's still "technically" there because of the stacking issue | 21:23 |
arosales | marcoceppi, gotcha. perhaps going forward we make the bug report and give x time for the maintainer to respond before pulling? | 21:24 |
wedgwood | marcoceppi: bac: https://code.launchpad.net/~mew/charm-helpers/refactor-to-core/+merge/164980 | 21:25 |
marcoceppi | arosales: ack, though there are outstanding bugs since november ;) | 21:25 |
arosales | marcoceppi, I think jcasto may also propose a similar idea to the list (for folks not here) | 21:25 |
bac | wedgwood: thanks | 21:25 |
wedgwood | it's enormous. for that I am sorry, but the individual commits are reasonable. | 21:26 |
arosales | marcoceppi, true the meta name has been there for some time. | 21:26 |
marcoceppi | wedgwood: I'll take a look as well for <standard peanut gallery> remarks | 21:26 |
wedgwood | marcoceppi: you'll probably be more interested at the next round of commits where I add in the command-line tool | 21:26 |
marcoceppi | wedgwood: definitely | 21:27 |
arosales | marcoceppi, the main idea is to give maintainers a warning and an opportunity to respond. | 21:28 |
marcoceppi | arosales: right, I understand as much | 21:28 |
arosales | marcoceppi, thanks :-) | 21:30 |
marcoceppi | Eager to start the store cleanup :) | 21:30 |
arosales | marcoceppi, its all in the name of quality which is good. :-) jcastro is tracking this particular work in https://trello.com/c/j2F2zsbY | 21:32 |
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