=== defunctzombie_zz is now known as defunctzombie === defunctzombie is now known as defunctzombie_zz === liam_ is now known as Guest39447 [09:20] hrm, going through the juju getting started at https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/getting-started.html in 12.04, trying to use lxc, in "In ~/.juju/environments.yaml, add a section for type "local":" I get error: environment "sample" has an unknown provider type "local" when I run juju bootstrap [09:21] (i've got LXC already setup with network bridging) [11:24] kyhwana: the go port (1.x) does not support the local provider yet, you have to use the python version (0.7.x) === gary_poster is now known as gary_poster|away === gary_poster|away is now known as gary_poster [13:04] Daviey: want to talk juju SRUs with me? [13:05] jcastro: no. But can do. [13:05] hah [13:05] G+? [13:05] jcastro: OK [13:05] jcastro: you initiate ? [13:06] it's ringing [13:06] is it? === defunctzombie_zz is now known as defunctzombie === defunctzombie is now known as defunctzombie_zz [13:24] mgz: ping [13:33] Hi Do you know if juju1.10 supports ec2-uri parameter in environments.yml for ec2 type cloud that are not ec2 (ie cloudstack)? [13:52] jcastro: hey [13:52] heya [13:52] so ... let's talk backport/SRU/whatever of everything to LTS [13:52] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5739061 === wedgwood_away is now known as wedgwood [13:52] users are running into problems [13:53] so I'm going to chase down the SRU for maas. [13:53] and I'm thinking everything should be 12.04-able [13:53] so... we can probably take the juju-0.7 and juju-1.10 packages to backports, I don't see the value in working off older versions [13:54] I agree [13:54] Daviey had some concerns about the update-alternatives [13:54] how would it work [13:54] is it like the PPA where we'd still default to .7 but allow the switch to 1.10? [13:54] well, it currently leaves it on juju-0.7 by default [13:55] that's fine [13:55] and reqires a user running a command to switch, so should be fine for the install from distro case with pyjuju [13:55] that seems fine to me [13:56] mgz: I was thinking it might make sense to backport co-installability aswell [13:57] yeah, we should just base off the raring work [13:57] is .7 as an SRU and 1.10 as a backport a good idea? Or stick both in backports? [13:58] either sounds possible, whatever the distro guys prefer [13:59] mgz: do you have time to drive this? [13:59] I really have nothing to offer other than "we need to fix this, someone help me oh please god." [14:01] probably, but I can't do much past the putting a branch up for review, someone else with powers needs to do the kicking [14:01] if you can get me a branch and CC me on it, I can hunt down and kick [14:34] hi again, can someone help me with the differences between pyjuju and juju-core in terms of coverage in functionnality? [14:37] ie: does juju-core support non-ec2 ec2 compatible cloud? (cloudstack) - I get an error using ec2-uri parameter in a new environemnt of type ec2 [14:45] fdehay: don't think anyone has tested cloudstack specifically, but the ec2 and s3 endpoints are hardcoded to aws, yeah [14:46] if you want to install from source it would be reasonably easy to play with that, at least you can report a bug against juju-core [14:47] thanks, we need to use cloudstack (internal cloud for now) so we will test juju using 0.7 for now I suppose [14:48] I can try to report a bug againt juju-core (never tried before :)) === BradCrittenden is now known as bac [14:50] you have a launchpad account? just go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+filebug [14:57] ok submitted https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1182508 hope it clear enough :) [14:57] <_mup_> Bug #1182508: juju cannot connect to cloudstack (non-ec2 ec2 cloud)

[15:06] marcoceppi: I remember at UDS we had someone offer to help with charm-helpers refactoring [15:06] marcoceppi: I can't recall who [15:06] wedgwood: Was it one of the gui guys? [15:07] marcoceppi: may have been. if you don't know either I'll go back to the video [15:07] wedgwood: Oh, during UDS. yeah, I can't recall but it should be in the video [15:10] marcoceppi: it's in the notes, thankfully. it was bac [15:10] ah, perfect [15:10] bac: I'm ready to land a pile of changed in charm-helpers if you're interested in reviewing [15:10] s/changed/changes/ [15:11] wedgwood: otp. be with you shortly === stub1 is now known as stub === rogpeppe2 is now known as rogpeppe === TheRealMue is now known as TheMue [16:04] jcastro, I think roaksoax was motivated after yesterday's chat and wrote up [16:04] http://www.roaksoax.com/2013/05/getting-started-with-maas-and-juju [16:20] in juju-core is there somewhere I can view the whole debug-log? I was supposed to watch my env come up using "juju debug-log" - but forgot and now it's bringing everything up [16:28] ^^ /var/log/juju/all-machines.log [16:40] How can I see the juju-core debug-log without tailing it? | http://askubuntu.com/q/298273 [16:41] mattyw: thanks for documentating that on AU! [16:46] marcoceppi, no problem, I was sure I'd been told to put stuff like that on AU [16:46] marcoceppi, didn't realise there was a bot to put it here - that's cool [16:46] AskUbuntu, I guess you're a bot? [16:47] It is, but it's nice to have it in a "more visable" place, since Google doesn't index irclogs very well [16:47] irc's only twenty years old, give them some time.. [16:54] sarnold: yeah but we also get metrics on AU [16:54] so in say, 6 months if that question has 10k views, we know we suck at making that feature visible, etc. [16:55] jcastro: heh, maybe, I've viewed a lot of questions just cause they sounded neat. :) [16:55] 50 upvotes, yeah.. :) [16:55] well then, a mindshare win on top of that, awww yeah! [17:18] jcastro, you got a moment? === gary_poster is now known as gary_poster|away [17:24] I'm on a call but I can listen on IRC. :) === gary_poster|away is now known as gary_poster [18:11] hey marcoceppi [18:12] with tinytiny rss almost done [18:12] jcastro: yo [18:12] all we're missing is a jabber charm [18:12] "Big company shutting down services you use? No worries, I got your back." [18:12] ejabberd would make a nice charm [19:19] jcastro: did you see this one? http://www.holovaty.com/writing/aws-notes/ [19:21] jcastro: also unrelated, but i'd love to see a mention of juju on http://devopsweekly.com/ [19:23] marcoceppi: ^ [19:23] sidnei: Yeah, there was a HN article about it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5738252 jcastro was all over it [19:26] marcoceppi: what about the devops weekly one? [19:27] sidnei: I'm not familiar with them, but it would probably be good to be mentioned on there [19:28] Might be a good place to get mentioned when we have a stronger puppet/chef story since then seem to favor those a lot [19:33] hmm [19:34] hazmat, 0.7+bzr628+bzr629~raring1 from PPA is installing an empty package, similar to txzookeeper last week [19:34] ugh [19:34] adam_g, i don't think that's the issue here though, but noted, i'll take a look [19:36] hazmat, nah, i just noticed a raring deployment failed because it was missing the config-get binary [19:39] hazmat, actually maybe its not entirely empty (the agent at least is running) but the binaries are missing [19:42] bins are going into /usr/lib/juju-0.7+bzr628+bzr629~raring1/bin/ instead of /usr/bin/ [19:43] looks like mgz tweaked the recipe... [19:44] er.. the packaging. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~juju/ubuntu/raring/juju/0.7/revision/41 [19:46] adam_g, i'm redoing the build now.. for precise since it failed.. [19:46] but i might need to revert on the packaging changes as well.. tbd [19:50] hazmat, hmph, cant imagine how that packaging change would cause that [19:51] adam_g, well it was previously doing 0.7+revno.. so there are some changes in there from the last 8hrs [19:51] agreed its strange [19:51] greetings KyleMacDonald [19:51] hey dude [20:39] marcoceppi: hey so [20:39] jcastro: yeah? [20:39] did the stack problem with removign drupal6 from the store get resolved? [20:39] jcastro: no, I need lynxman to help out but he's not on IRC [20:39] Since it's stacked on /his/ branch [20:40] anyone have his contact info? [20:41] jcastro: I don't, but based on his lp account I can assume his jabber is his email. If not I can just open a bug and assign it to him in hopes he gets it [20:41] can you fire off an email? [20:42] I think he'd just Do It. [20:42] jcastro: yeah, firing now [20:42] <3 thanks === BradCrittenden is now known as bac [21:20] marcoceppi, I don't see a drupal bug for the removal for the charm store [21:20] https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/precise/+source/drupal6 [21:20] marcoceppi, could you confirm [21:21] arosales: created [21:22] marcoceppi, ok, perhaps it is taking some time to propagate to https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/precise/+source/drupal6 [21:22] arosales: this is the actual link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+source/drupal6 [21:23] ah ok so not specific to the precise branch [21:23] the specific precise branch is "gone" due to unpromulgation, but it's still "technically" there because of the stacking issue [21:24] marcoceppi, gotcha. perhaps going forward we make the bug report and give x time for the maintainer to respond before pulling? [21:25] marcoceppi: bac: https://code.launchpad.net/~mew/charm-helpers/refactor-to-core/+merge/164980 [21:25] arosales: ack, though there are outstanding bugs since november ;) [21:25] marcoceppi, I think jcasto may also propose a similar idea to the list (for folks not here) [21:25] wedgwood: thanks [21:26] it's enormous. for that I am sorry, but the individual commits are reasonable. [21:26] marcoceppi, true the meta name has been there for some time. [21:26] wedgwood: I'll take a look as well for remarks [21:26] marcoceppi: you'll probably be more interested at the next round of commits where I add in the command-line tool [21:27] wedgwood: definitely [21:28] marcoceppi, the main idea is to give maintainers a warning and an opportunity to respond. [21:28] arosales: right, I understand as much [21:30] marcoceppi, thanks :-) [21:30] Eager to start the store cleanup :) [21:32] marcoceppi, its all in the name of quality which is good. :-) jcastro is tracking this particular work in https://trello.com/c/j2F2zsbY === wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away === wedgwood_away is now known as wedgwood === wedgwood is now known as wedgwood_away