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| Daviey | adam_g: Hey! | 16:00 |
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| adam_g | o/ | 16:01 |
| adam_g | shall we? | 16:02 |
| zul | we shall | 16:02 |
| Daviey | adam_g: All set? | 16:02 |
| adam_g | #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team | 16:03 |
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| adam_g | hey all | 16:03 |
| jamespage | o/ | 16:03 |
| arosales | Hello o/ | 16:03 |
| Daviey | \o | 16:03 |
| adam_g | hmm. we had no meeting last week because of UDS, correct? last minutes i can find are @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server/20130423 | 16:04 |
| Daviey | Correct | 16:04 |
| adam_g | coolio | 16:04 |
| adam_g | #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting | 16:04 |
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| Daviey | adam_g: I think use the agenda from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting | 16:04 |
| smoser | o/ | 16:05 |
| adam_g | so, we have no action poitns from last | 16:06 |
| adam_g | Moving on? | 16:06 |
| Daviey | adam_g: see the 3 things in Agenda? | 16:06 |
| Daviey | (carried forward) arosales .. etc? | 16:06 |
| adam_g | Oh, sorry. I was looking at the 20130423 minutes | 16:07 |
| adam_g | arosales, any update: arosales to follow up with Norvald regarding SRU? | 16:07 |
| arosales | ugh, sorry /me still has a todo to follow up with Norvald. | 16:08 |
| adam_g | k | 16:08 |
| arosales | I thought there may be some discussion and vUDS, but I don't think norvald was there. | 16:08 |
| adam_g | #action (carried forward) arosales to follow up with Norvald regarding SRU | 16:08 |
| meetingology | ACTION: (carried forward) arosales to follow up with Norvald regarding SRU | 16:08 |
| adam_g | zul, any updates on the complexity of percona packaging in Ubuntu? i know therew was discussion at UDS | 16:09 |
| zul | adam_g: not really percona is giong to be working on thier stuff to get into the archive via debian and we will go from there | 16:10 |
| adam_g | zul, cool is there a timeframe for that or relevant workitems/blueprint? | 16:10 |
| Daviey | Yeah, great progress was made with percona at vUDS | 16:11 |
| zul | adam_g: no but ill update the work items | 16:11 |
| Daviey | I feel confident enough we can remove it from the agenda. | 16:11 |
| adam_g | Daviey, is there an action to remove it or just do not record as a new action for next meeting? | 16:11 |
| Daviey | adam_g: yeah, just drop it on the floor. No action needed, it'll be in blueprint, right zul? :) | 16:11 |
| zul | right | 16:12 |
| adam_g | k | 16:12 |
| adam_g | smoser to reach out to juju-core and discuss what integration with ubuntu image meta data can be done for Raring. | 16:12 |
| adam_g | smoser, any update? assume it didn't make it for raring, but any update on what is in store for saucy with regard to ubuntu images? | 16:12 |
| smoser | juju-core support for simple streams data is basically in. | 16:13 |
| adam_g | ah! | 16:13 |
| doko | smoser, adam_g: do you know if there is any work planned to integrate the no goyaml into juju-core? | 16:13 |
| TheLordOfTime | o/ (late sorry!) | 16:13 |
| smoser | i don't know. | 16:14 |
| adam_g | smoser, is there anything left to be done at that front that needs to be carried over? | 16:14 |
| smoser | no | 16:14 |
| adam_g | doko, i'd be surprised if they were not already using goyaml but you'd have to check with #juju-dev | 16:15 |
| adam_g | Moving on? | 16:15 |
| Daviey | adam_g: Looks good! | 16:15 |
| adam_g | #TOPIC Saucy Development | 16:15 |
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| jamespage | hello saucy salamander! | 16:16 |
| Daviey | Still early in the cycle... and with vUDS last week.. we are getting things sorted. | 16:16 |
| adam_g | well, we're probably all working on merges and syncs for some time now | 16:16 |
| Daviey | jamespage: How are blueprints looking? | 16:16 |
| * hallyn hides his behind his back | 16:16 | |
| jamespage | hands up who still has blueprints to write up from last week? | 16:17 |
| * jamespage puts his hand up | 16:17 | |
| hallyn | o/ | 16:17 |
| Daviey | We need to make good use of the Blueprint review staus | 16:17 |
| * zul does | 16:17 | |
| hallyn | i'll get to it this week | 16:17 |
| adam_g | jamespage, is there a URL to get a list of blueprints filtered by the server team for S? was having trouble with this yesterday | 16:17 |
| hallyn | Daviey: what does that mean? | 16:17 |
| jamespage | OK _ so please can drafters sync up with session notes and document work items as well | 16:17 |
| hallyn | yup | 16:17 |
| Daviey | hallyn: see the Design field? | 16:18 |
| jamespage | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+specs?role=assignee | 16:18 |
| Daviey | Lets pick on, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-mongodb | 16:18 |
| Daviey | See it's Defintion is marked as Review? | 16:18 |
| hallyn | y | 16:18 |
| adam_g | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+specs?role=assignee | 16:19 |
| hallyn | Daviey: so switch that to drafting while working, then discussion when doen? | 16:19 |
| Daviey | hallyn: When the blueprint is at a state where it can be moved forward, mark it as review.. So Scott, James and Myself can take a gander. | 16:19 |
| Daviey | hallyn: Discussion is supposed to be last week.. Drafting is the current status | 16:20 |
| Daviey | Review for, "Please Ack it" | 16:20 |
| hallyn | ok | 16:20 |
| Daviey | "Approved" is commence work | 16:20 |
| jamespage | please can folks try to get stuff into a 'Review' state by the end this week | 16:21 |
| jamespage | Daviey, does that sound reasonable | 16:21 |
| hallyn | yes, sir | 16:21 |
| rbasak | Is that why work items don't yet appear on my own page on status.ubuntu.com? | 16:21 |
| Daviey | jamespage: That sounds a super plan | 16:21 |
| hallyn | tsk tsk | 16:21 |
| Daviey | rbasak: Sounds about right. | 16:21 |
| jamespage | if people want some help then please ping me, smoser or Daviey | 16:21 |
| arosales | Daviey, do we also need a topic for servercloud on status.u.c or should work items for individuals show up? | 16:22 |
| jamespage | where help == guidance != write the spec for you :-) | 16:22 |
| Daviey | arosales: I think we do indeed need a topic | 16:22 |
| Daviey | arosales: I actually thought there were topics, but it looks like they are unrelated | 16:22 |
| arosales | #action arosales to create status.u.c topics | 16:23 |
| meetingology | ACTION: arosales to create status.u.c topics | 16:23 |
| Daviey | arosales: You sir, are a true gent. | 16:23 |
| adam_g | cool | 16:23 |
| arosales | I'll do an "ecosystem" and "overview" topic any others folks are interested in? | 16:23 |
| adam_g | anything else? | 16:23 |
| jamespage | thanks arosales | 16:24 |
| jamespage | oh - I had one more thing | 16:24 |
| adam_g | sure | 16:24 |
| arosales | glad to help where I can | 16:24 |
| jamespage | last cycle each blueprint had a individual assignee and ubuntu-server as the drafter | 16:24 |
| jamespage | this mean that work-items where by default owned by an individual rather than the team | 16:25 |
| jamespage | Daviey, we seem to have switch that this cycle | 16:25 |
| jamespage | so work-items are team owned unless specifically assigned | 16:25 |
| Daviey | jamespage: You are certain that s.u.c won't DTRT? | 16:25 |
| * jamespage shrugs | 16:25 | |
| Daviey | Maybe i am going barmy, but i'd imagine Assignee to be the main person on the hook for the blueprint? | 16:26 |
| Daviey | ie, default owner of WI | 16:26 |
| jamespage | Daviey, yes - but right now that's ubuntu-server team | 16:26 |
| Daviey | BUT, if we do it the other way (AKA last cycle).. we get a pool of unowned work, which is ~ubuntu-server | 16:26 |
| Daviey | So maybe that makes more sense? | 16:26 |
| jamespage | no - we have a pool of unowned work with the way we have it now | 16:27 |
| Daviey | jamespage: Ah yes. | 16:27 |
| jamespage | I think that is wrong | 16:27 |
| Daviey | jamespage: default to unowned sounds subpar to me.. What do you think? | 16:27 |
| arosales | could Drafter and Assignee be switched? | 16:28 |
| jamespage | sounds like we agree; can people switch them around please for the blueprints they are currently assigned as drafter for | 16:28 |
| Daviey | jamespage: Ok, lets switch it around. I'll do that for ones i am Approver of | 16:28 |
| jamespage | ta | 16:28 |
| Daviey | jamespage: I'll just bulk it. | 16:28 |
| jamespage | adam_g, OK - I think we are done on that one | 16:28 |
| jamespage | Daviey, ta | 16:28 |
| adam_g | ok | 16:28 |
| adam_g | i assume its too early to review release bugs, eh? | 16:29 |
| Daviey | #ACTION Daviey to switcheroo Assignee & Drafter for Saucy blueprints. | 16:29 |
| meetingology | ACTION: Daviey to switcheroo Assignee & Drafter for Saucy blueprints. | 16:29 |
| Daviey | arosales: yeah, i don't think we have any bugs to worry too much about. | 16:29 |
| Daviey | err, adam_g ^ | 16:29 |
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| jamespage | adam_g, can you action me to chase down bdmurray about the release tracking report | 16:30 |
| Daviey | zul seems to have identified a bunch of FTBFS and jenkins build failures with Havana on Saucy.. but not pertinent here i don't think | 16:30 |
| adam_g | #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events | 16:30 |
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| jamespage | I sware its not working again | 16:30 |
| Daviey | jamespage: release tracking report? | 16:30 |
| jamespage | release bug tracking report | 16:30 |
| Daviey | jamespage: url? | 16:30 |
| jamespage | actually don't bother - its working now - http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-s-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 16:31 |
| Daviey | rls-s-tracking-bugs.html | 16:31 |
| Daviey | right | 16:31 |
| adam_g | is anyone attending any events worth noting here? | 16:31 |
| arosales | for events m_3 is at http://www.gluecon.com/2013/ this week | 16:32 |
| jamespage | there is an openstack and mysql meetup in london on thursday | 16:32 |
| arosales | I am at http://2013.texaslinuxfest.org/ at the end of the month | 16:32 |
| jamespage | I'm not attending but Daviey is I think | 16:32 |
| Daviey | I am at Openstack London meetup this Thursday | 16:32 |
| Daviey | I am at Mysql London meetup this Thursday | 16:32 |
| jamespage | :-) | 16:32 |
| Daviey | (same building, same time) | 16:32 |
| Daviey | (Say Hi, if you see me.) | 16:33 |
| Daviey | .. | 16:33 |
| adam_g | great | 16:33 |
| Daviey | EOF | 16:33 |
| adam_g | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars) | 16:33 |
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| adam_g | plars, hi | 16:34 |
| adam_g | if plars is not making it, anything else QA related? | 16:35 |
| plars | hi, I'm here | 16:35 |
| adam_g | oh! hi :) | 16:35 |
| Daviey | \o/ | 16:35 |
| plars | not much, hallyn I think was looking at a bug on lxc? | 16:35 |
| plars | one moment, let me dig up the bug # | 16:35 |
| plars | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/1182540 | 16:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1182540 in lxc (Ubuntu) "lxc smoke test, test_lxc_apparmor appears to hang on saucy VM" [Undecided,New] | 16:35 |
| plars | I believe you've already talked to psivaa about that though right? | 16:36 |
| hallyn | uh, is that the one hementioned this morning? | 16:36 |
| plars | also, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1181315 is affecting the floodlight test, kernel team is aware and looking into it | 16:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1181315 in linux (Ubuntu) "unregister_netdevice: waiting for lo to become free. Usage count = 2' is reported and causing kernel hang when floodlight tests are run using utah" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:36 |
| plars | hallyn: yep | 16:36 |
| adam_g | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1181315 | 16:36 |
| hallyn | i ahdn't seen the open bug | 16:36 |
| adam_g | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/1182540 | 16:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1182540 in lxc (Ubuntu) "lxc smoke test, test_lxc_apparmor appears to hang on saucy VM" [Undecided,New] | 16:37 |
| hallyn | couldn't reproduce with a fresh saucy install | 16:37 |
| Daviey | yolanda: did you send that mail to ubuntu-qa, about dep-8? | 16:37 |
| hallyn | plars: have him ping me if it happens again on next run pls | 16:37 |
| yolanda | Daviey, yes, i also had you and Jamie in CC | 16:37 |
| hallyn | it appeared to be hung on flock | 16:37 |
| plars | hallyn: yes, he's running again to get additional information | 16:37 |
| plars | nothing else from me | 16:37 |
| yolanda | i received a message from ubuntu-qa, telling that is pending of moderation | 16:37 |
| hallyn | plars: thanks | 16:37 |
| Daviey | yolanda: super | 16:38 |
| adam_g | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) | 16:38 |
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| adam_g | smb, hello sir | 16:38 |
| Daviey | smb is away | 16:38 |
| adam_g | ah | 16:38 |
| Daviey | I think we can skip this section this week. | 16:39 |
| adam_g | ...and i actually had a question! | 16:39 |
| Daviey | Oh | 16:39 |
| Daviey | apw: Can you help answer a kernel question? :) | 16:39 |
| adam_g | i was just wondering if we knew exactly what kernel requirements are needed to do xen now. | 16:39 |
| apw | Daviey, ? | 16:39 |
| Daviey | apw: adam_g said he had a kernel question. | 16:40 |
| adam_g | was hoping someone could confirm whether a reboot is necessary. we touched on this at UDS but seemed nobody knew for sure | 16:40 |
| apw | adam_g, needed to do xen ? | 16:40 |
| apw | a reboot following what? | 16:40 |
| adam_g | apw, can the vanilla kernel shipped /w ubuntu currently support running a xen hypervisor? | 16:40 |
| Daviey | As far as i a aware, the primary kernel we ship is xen dom0 enabled OOTB | 16:40 |
| apw | the vanilla kernel can be a dom0 kernel yes, obviously you still need to reboot following selecting xen as your hypervisor so it can get underneath the kernel | 16:41 |
| adam_g | apw, thats what i wanted to know, thanks. someone mentioned that was no longer necessary last week. | 16:42 |
| adam_g | thanks | 16:42 |
| Daviey | apw: so that fiddles grub config? | 16:42 |
| adam_g | #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak) | 16:42 |
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| rbasak | Nothing to report. Any questions for me? | 16:42 |
| adam_g | Nothing for rbasak? | 16:43 |
| Daviey | None | 16:44 |
| adam_g | #topic Open Discussion | 16:44 |
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| arosales | good blog post by roaksoax for maas juju set up @ http://www.roaksoax.com/2013/05/getting-started-with-maas-and-juju | 16:44 |
| Daviey | +1 | 16:44 |
| rbasak | I'd like to draw attention to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2013-May/014518.html - for those interested in ldap, sssd, etc. | 16:44 |
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| Daviey | TheLordOfTime: Hello | 16:44 |
| TheLordOfTime | Daviey: hiya! | 16:44 |
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| TheLordOfTime | if you don't mind me stealing the floor for a few moments... :P | 16:45 |
| rbasak | I'm also still soliciting comments on errors.ubuntu.com on the ubuntu-server list. | 16:45 |
| Daviey | I need to dive out now, but TheLordOfTime wanted to discuss nginx | 16:45 |
| marcoceppi | yay nginx | 16:45 |
| TheLordOfTime | Per https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1177919/comments/3 there was an informal request to consider nginx for inclusion either on the images or as part of tasksel | 16:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1177919 in nginx (Ubuntu) "Merge nginx 1.4.1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] | 16:45 |
| TheLordOfTime | or some other system. | 16:45 |
| TheLordOfTime | the bug itself is irrelevant, but the comment is what i'm drawing attention to | 16:45 |
| TheLordOfTime | nginx has gotten a lot more widespread use, and it's bugfixing has been a bit faster, namely because i've unofficially adopted it on the ubuntu side | 16:46 |
| TheLordOfTime | i've seen other requests about whether nginx would be included on the images ever, and I've had to answer "I don't know" | 16:46 |
| jamespage | hmm - we did look at this during raring | 16:47 |
| jamespage | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-webscale | 16:47 |
| rbasak | To be clear, are you suggesting nginx together with apache2 in main, or nginx to replace apache2 in main? | 16:47 |
| jamespage | utlemming, around? ^^ any comment on nginx into main | 16:47 |
| TheLordOfTime | rbasak: i don't remember where the discussion of making nginx part of main went. | 16:47 |
| utlemming | jamespage: yeah...the problem here is that security doesn't seemed to thrilled about it | 16:47 |
| TheLordOfTime | it was a uds talkpoint | 16:47 |
| jamespage | ah - and here again - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-s-webscale | 16:47 |
| jamespage | and I'm the drafter | 16:48 |
| adam_g | i'm surprised nginx hasn't been promoted to main by now. | 16:48 |
| * jamespage faceplants | 16:48 | |
| utlemming | jamespage: the issue is nginx has a long history of CVE's and long standing security issues | 16:48 |
| jamespage | utlemming, that certainly used to be the case - but is that true now? | 16:48 |
| rbasak | I agree that nginx is popular, mature and has widespread use now. Not sure about the security side of things. | 16:48 |
| TheLordOfTime | there are active CVEs. | 16:48 |
| TheLordOfTime | well, last i checked, at least one | 16:48 |
| * TheLordOfTime pulls the bug | 16:48 | |
| rbasak | It would be nice to have a "lightweight/minimal httpd" in main. | 16:48 |
| TheLordOfTime | this is the last bug I saw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1098654 | 16:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1098654 in nginx (Ubuntu Raring) "nginx vulnerable to MITM Attack [CVE-2011-4968]" [Low,Confirmed] | 16:49 |
| TheLordOfTime | granted i pulled that from debian and upstream trackers | 16:49 |
| TheLordOfTime | it seems upstream's ignoring it though | 16:49 |
| rbasak | (in addition to the do-everything heavyweight httpd that is apache) | 16:49 |
| TheLordOfTime | rbasak: i'm bringing it up as a talking point, not from my opinions | 16:49 |
| TheLordOfTime | as we're aware, a common HTTPd deployment is LAMP | 16:49 |
| TheLordOfTime | Apache, MySQL, and PHP | 16:49 |
| TheLordOfTime | nginx has zero OOTB configurations that include PHP | 16:50 |
| rbasak | Just reading that bug now. That seems like a really obscure case. | 16:50 |
| TheLordOfTime | as it depends on php5-fpm (or similar) and proxy_pass-ing to the php5 backend | 16:50 |
| rbasak | Who runs nginx in reverse proxy mode to an https server over an insecure network? | 16:50 |
| TheLordOfTime | whether that's an fcgi wrapper or a php5-fpm running | 16:50 |
| TheLordOfTime | rbasak: nobody, but that's an example of a known CVE that has gotten zero upstream attention | 16:50 |
| TheLordOfTime | unless I missed a few commits... | 16:51 |
| rbasak | TheLordOfTime: yeah sure. That wasn't aimed at you - I appreciate you bringing it up. | 16:51 |
| TheLordOfTime | rbasak: no problem :) | 16:51 |
| TheLordOfTime | but lemme go back to my initial "not a good inclusion" argument | 16:51 |
| TheLordOfTime | we're aware LAMP is an easy-to-deploy system because Apache has a loadable module that speaks to php5 | 16:52 |
| rbasak | What I'm saying is that I'm not sure that should block an MIR - but I'm not as familiar with MIR policy and history as I'd like, or understand what security policy with that kind of vulnerability would be. | 16:52 |
| TheLordOfTime | nginx doesn't have that, it requires manual configuration to work | 16:52 |
| TheLordOfTime | although the sample default config *does* have a compatible clause that would allow php to work | 16:52 |
| TheLordOfTime | but it's commented out by default | 16:52 |
| rbasak | IMHO, nginx isn't necessarily supposed to have that. Even though I have put PHP behind nginx before. | 16:53 |
| TheLordOfTime | i'm not sure what other points need to be addressed, maybe talk to the security team about their concerns. | 16:53 |
| rbasak | I put some kind of fastcgi thing in the middle, IIRC. | 16:53 |
| TheLordOfTime | rbasak: it isn't, but debian included a default config with samples that work with Ubuntu/Debian php5-fpm out of the box | 16:53 |
| TheLordOfTime | nginx debian package that is | 16:54 |
| rbasak | OK...so where are we with it? | 16:54 |
| TheLordOfTime | that's the discussion here. | 16:54 |
| TheLordOfTime | personally, I vote to NOT move it to main | 16:54 |
| TheLordOfTime | because the only person actively watching it in Ubuntu is me and maybe a few others | 16:55 |
| TheLordOfTime | (probably mostly me, though...) | 16:55 |
| TheLordOfTime | i also don't want to deal with an extra influx of "how do i configure it for [usecase]" questions | 16:55 |
| TheLordOfTime | as those're bound to flood into existence if we include it on the images. | 16:55 |
| TheLordOfTime | but my point here was to bring the discussion up again | 16:56 |
| TheLordOfTime | i'm curious whether anyone else here has an opinion on moving it to main and/or including on the images. | 16:56 |
| TheLordOfTime | and whether there's concerns from others on it. | 16:56 |
| rbasak | I'm not sure those last two reasons are valid - but we're running out of time. | 16:56 |
| TheLordOfTime | if there's anything I can answer, questions or the such, i'll answer if i can | 16:57 |
| adam_g | can we take this to #ubuntu-server? | 16:57 |
| adam_g | 2 minutes left here | 16:57 |
| TheLordOfTime | we can, or we can take it to the mailing list, | 16:57 |
| * TheLordOfTime is on both places | 16:57 | |
| jamespage | +1 ML | 16:57 |
| rbasak | My concern would mainly be around whether it's suitable under main inclusion policy, who would look after it, and how much work it'd be. | 16:57 |
| adam_g | #topic Announce next meeting date and time | 16:58 |
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| adam_g | May 28th 16:00 UTC | 16:58 |
| TheLordOfTime | last point on that last topic of nginx: we may want to discuss on the ML about this, so others who weren't here can chime in. | 16:58 |
| TheLordOfTime | i'd say that's the first place to bring it up | 16:59 |
| * TheLordOfTime is done. | 16:59 | |
| arosales | adam_g, thanks for chairing | 16:59 |
| adam_g | TheLordOfTime, i agree. there are plenty of admins out there who are heavily vested that are not on IRC | 16:59 |
| rbasak | TheLordOfTime: will do - thanks for bringing it up | 16:59 |
| adam_g | till next week | 16:59 |
| adam_g | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue May 21 16:59:34 2013 UTC. | 16:59 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-05-21-16.03.moin.txt | 16:59 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-05-21-16.03.html | 16:59 |
| TheLordOfTime | rbasak: no problem, i brought it up because it ended up as a request on an active merge bug. | 16:59 |
| TheLordOfTime | (which, thanks to Daviey, has been included into Saucy) | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | #startmeeting | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | ## | 17:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue May 21 17:00:38 2013 UTC. The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 17:00 |
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| jsalisbury | ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting. | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | ## | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/raring | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | # Meeting Etiquette | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | # | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input. | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | # 'o/' indicates you have something to add (please wait until you are recognized) | 17:00 |
| jsalisbury | Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting | 17:00 |
| bjf | o/ | 17:00 |
| ppisati | o/ | 17:00 |
| rtg_ | o/ | 17:00 |
| cking | o/ | 17:00 |
| henrix | o/ | 17:00 |
| sforshee | o/ | 17:01 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati) | 17:01 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ARM Status (ppisati) | ||
| ppisati | Q/master: lp1176977 ("XFS instability on armhf under load") - working with | 17:01 |
| ppisati | upstream on this one: i already backported a fix that turn the vmalloc() exhaustion | 17:01 |
| ppisati | and fs shutdown to an -ENOSPC error, and this second error seems to be triggered | 17:01 |
| ppisati | by the tiny fs used in these tests (~2GB). Still working to get it | 17:01 |
| ppisati | properly fixed. | 17:01 |
| ppisati | R/master: lp1171582("[highbank] hvc0 getty causes random hangs") - | 17:01 |
| ppisati | the jtag console has a 1-char producer-consumer buffer and if there's no | 17:01 |
| ppisati | real hw attached to the board, any subsequent write turn into an endless loop | 17:01 |
| ppisati | waiting for a consumer. The situation is worsened by the fact | 17:01 |
| ppisati | that before writing to this register a tty spinlocked is taken, and | 17:01 |
| ppisati | any subsequent tentative to pick this spinlock makes the thread hang - | 17:02 |
| ppisati | got a confirmation of the problem, some info about the hw, and i'm working on this. | 17:02 |
| ppisati | .. | 17:02 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) | 17:02 |
| jsalisbury | Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link: | 17:02 |
| jsalisbury | [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt | 17:02 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury) | ||
| jsalisbury | .. | 17:02 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) | 17:02 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara) | ||
| ogasawara | [LINK] https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-distro-team/+upcomingwork | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-saucy/canonical-kernel-distro-team.html | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | The burn down charts have not yet been reset for 13.10, so disregard the | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | second link posted abovefor now. I'll be cleaning up and adding work | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | items for 13.10 so that the +upcomingwork link will be more accurate. | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | Next week I'll have the usual nag table available. | 17:02 |
| ogasawara | .. | 17:02 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Status: Saucy Development Kernel (ogasawara) | 17:03 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: Saucy Development Kernel (ogasawara) | ||
| ogasawara | For now, we'll plan on targetting the v3.10 kernel for Saucy but will | 17:03 |
| ogasawara | strongly re-evaluate a move to v3.11 in the coming months. We've just | 17:03 |
| ogasawara | rebased Saucy to v3.10-rc2 and are still cleaning up some of the | 17:03 |
| ogasawara | carnage. I don't anticipate we'll upload until a later -rc which will | 17:03 |
| ogasawara | hopefully provide more stability. | 17:03 |
| ogasawara | Importand upcoming dates: | 17:03 |
| ogasawara | Thurs June 20 - Alpha 1 (opt in) | 17:03 |
| ogasawara | .. | 17:03 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin) | 17:03 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: CVE's (sconklin) | ||
| sconklin | == 2013-05-21 (28 days) == | 17:04 |
| sconklin | Currently we have 63 CVEs on our radar, with 8 CVEs added and 17 CVEs retired in the last 28 days. | 17:04 |
| sconklin | See the CVE matrix for the current list: | 17:04 |
| sconklin | [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html | 17:04 |
| sconklin | Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week: | 17:04 |
| sconklin | [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt | 17:04 |
| sconklin | [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt | 17:04 |
| sconklin | .. | 17:04 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Raring/Quantal/Precise/Oneiric/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/henrix/sconklin) | 17:04 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Raring/Quantal/Precise/Oneiric/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/henrix/sconklin) | ||
| sconklin | Support for Oneiric and Hardy expired on May 9th. | 17:04 |
| sconklin | Status for the main kernels, until today (May. 21): | 17:04 |
| sconklin | * Lucid - In Testing; | 17:04 |
| sconklin | * Precise - In Testing; 2 upstream releases; | 17:04 |
| sconklin | * Quantal - In Testing; 2 upstream releases; | 17:04 |
| sconklin | * Raring - In Testing; 3 upstream releases; | 17:04 |
| sconklin | Current opened tracking bugs details: | 17:04 |
| sconklin | * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html | 17:04 |
| sconklin | For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information: | 17:04 |
| sconklin | * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html | 17:04 |
| sconklin | Future stable cadence cycles: | 17:04 |
| sconklin | * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseInterlock | 17:04 |
| sconklin | .. | 17:04 |
| jsalisbury | [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) | 17:05 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) | ||
| jsalisbury | Thanks everyone | 17:05 |
| jsalisbury | #endmeeting | 17:05 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue May 21 17:05:40 2013 UTC. | 17:05 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-05-21-17.00.moin.txt | 17:05 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-05-21-17.00.html | 17:05 |
| kamal | thanks jsalisbury | 17:05 |
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