[00:17] <HM_> anyone awake?
[00:17] <HM_> preferrably someone in the UK on virgin media
[00:17] <penguin42> sorry, I'm not on VM
[00:17] <HM_> I need someone with linux knowledge to collaborate a hunch regarding their shitty network, run a traceroute and/or ping
[00:18] <HM_> penguin42: you're on demon, can you ping continuumdatacenters.com ?
[00:19] <HM_> my VPS is there and I'm trying to find out why the fuck the entire data center is unroutable from Virgin media users in the UK
[00:19] <penguin42> sure give me a sec
[00:19] <penguin42> 64 bytes from cdc.io (173.243.123.51): icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=123 ms
[00:20] <penguin42> also pings from my bytemark vm
[00:20] <HM_> grrrrrrr
[00:20] <HM_> i've confirmed it works from by EU VPS, a friend on Bt infinity, now you on demon
[00:21] <HM_> but nope, not Virgin media....they've fucked up their peering and blackholed the entire place
[00:21] <HM_> first they fuck with my broadband, now they're fucking with my business website
[00:22] <penguin42> it's possible it's not VM; I mean routing is damn complex and it could be some one else; but since both demon and bytemark can ping it, it doesn point to your VM
[00:22] <HM_> complex my arse
[00:22] <C-S-B> I've got a shell on a VM connected box if needed.
[00:23] <C-S-B> and bt infinity.
[00:23]  * penguin42 would gently point to the language rules on this channel...
[00:23] <HM_> C-S-B: can you ping from your Virgin box to continuum?
[00:23] <HM_> sorry
[00:23] <C-S-B> HM_: sure.
[00:23] <shauno> that's odd .. I can ping from home (upc.ie) and hetzner, but not from bitfolk
[00:24] <C-S-B> ping continuumdatacenters.com
[00:24] <C-S-B> PING continuumdatacenters.com (173.243.123.51) 56(84) bytes of data.
[00:24] <C-S-B> 64 bytes from cdc.io (173.243.123.51): icmp_req=1 ttl=55 time=103 ms
[00:24] <HM_> C-S-B: can you traceroute that and PM me the trace?
[00:24] <C-S-B> HM_: ^
[00:24] <HM_> i know this isn't ubuntu talk but i didn't know where else to find people in the UK
[00:25] <HM_> especially tech savvy peeps
[00:26] <C-S-B> HM_: What happens from your side?
[00:26] <HM_> from my end i can't get past my gateway
[00:27] <HM_> from the box itself (ssh'd in via a proxy on my EU VPS) i can't get past a dozen hops
[00:27] <penguin42> it's less than 11 hops from my demon ADSL to it apparently
[00:27] <HM_> nothing else seems to be effected just the Continuum IP range, which makes no sense
[00:28] <penguin42> can you ping 100gigabitethernet13-2.core1.chi1.he.net ?
[00:29] <HM_> nope
[00:29] <HM_> i can't ping anything in 184.105.223.0/24
[00:30] <HM_> Boom
[00:30] <HM_> and now it works
[00:30] <penguin42> routing hickup then
[00:31] <HM_> nothing's a hiccup when it comes to virgin
[00:31] <HM_> i've had extreme packet loss at peak times for a month
[00:31] <C-S-B> HM_: I just had trouble from the VM connection getting to ubuntu to install traceroute.
[00:31] <C-S-B> then it worked as you said yours did. Possibly related.
[00:33] <C-S-B> Traced fine to continuumdatacenters.com
[00:33] <HM_> traces fine here now as well
[00:33] <HM_> but it was out for 40 minutes
[00:33] <penguin42> still, I guess that shows that someone is actually using 100GbE - nice :-)
[00:34] <C-S-B> or just an optimistic hostname :P
[00:35] <HM_> yeah it's probably ethernet over fibre at that rate.
[00:35] <shauno> wouldn't find 100g hugely surprising for he.net, to be honest
[00:35] <penguin42> I knew you could buy 40GbE but hadn't realised 100 was around
[00:36] <HM_> thanks for assistance anyhow
[00:36] <C-S-B> np
[00:37] <HM_> urgh
[00:38] <HM_> but yeah, avoid virgin if at all possible
[00:38] <HM_> 120 Mb/s broadband sounds nice but it's a pipe dream
[00:39] <HM_> http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/b3d0e6783f3ab5b874ecd250e18a80e1-20-05-2013.html <-- the red shows packet loss all morning today
[00:39] <HM_> stopped dead at noon for no apparent reason
[00:40] <penguin42> no infinity here unfortunately, so I'm stuck with ADSL2 or vm if I want faster
[00:43] <HM_> infinity are available here now but switching is painful due to the fam
[00:43] <HM_> they all use virgin email addresses, watch the tv package etc
[00:44] <HM_> bundling doesn't make going to BT just for broadband cost effective
[05:40] <MartijnVdS> Whoa.. flickr changed
[05:53] <Myrtti> yup
[06:57] <knightwise> morning
[08:04] <diplo> Morning all
[08:04] <MartijnVdS> 2\o
[08:05] <MartijnVdS> uh
[08:05] <MartijnVdS> \o
[08:06] <diplo> heh
[08:07] <diplo> HM_: Conversation from last night I know, but I still have my virgin email address 3-4 years after leaving them, plenty of time to get people slowly moved over :)
[08:22] <Myrtti> I need more tea, and perhaps even a glass of wine.
[08:22] <Myrtti> and yes, it's again one of *those* mornings
[08:22] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: at this hour?
[08:22] <diplo> Wine?!?!!?
[08:22] <diplo> :P
[08:22] <Myrtti> atleast my death threat tally for today is still 0
[08:23] <MartijnVdS> outgoing or incoming?
[08:23] <Myrtti> incoming
[08:23] <Myrtti> outgoing is too enumerous to count
[08:23] <Myrtti> I just don't usually say them out loud or type them
[08:23] <Myrtti> just cringe and twitch my hands :-P
[08:24] <Myrtti> it's just so heartwarming when someone tells that they know where you are and what they'll do
[08:24] <Myrtti> there's that little difference of twitching and saying and doing
[08:24] <diplo> Freenode related Myrtti  ?
[08:24] <Myrtti> I do the first
[08:25] <Myrtti> diplo: yeah.
[08:25] <diplo> That sucks, sorry to hear that
[08:25] <Myrtti> but yeah, I definitely need more tea
[08:26] <Myrtti> and yes, even if today sucks, I've had worse days. tea should help a bit.
[08:30] <diplo> Suppose I ought to get second tea on, given up on alcohol so tea/juice it'll have to be :P
[08:31] <knightwise> Mornin everyone
[08:34] <diplo> Morning knightwise
[08:34] <knightwise> hey diplo
[08:34] <knightwise> how are ya dude
[08:34] <diplo> Not to bad thanks, yourself ?
[08:35] <knightwise> bogged down in a financial meeting
[08:35] <knightwise> going to have to give some infrastructure and security advice
[08:36] <shrik> morning all
[08:36] <diplo> But on IRC, good work!
[08:36] <shrik> 24 hours without the internet feels like AGES
[08:37] <diplo> Great thing about this job, very few meetings.. pity the job sucks
[08:37] <diplo> :P
[08:48] <knightwise> diplo: only way not to fall asleep
[08:49] <BigRedS> Is "The partitioner in the installer doesn't allow the setting of filesystem labels" too terse for a bug report? I can't think what else to say...
[08:50] <TheOpenSourcerer> BigRedS: Don't think "The partitioner in " adds much.
[08:50] <TheOpenSourcerer> Just "Installer doesn't allow the setting of filesystem labels"
[08:51] <BigRedS> You're making it even shorter!
[08:51] <TheOpenSourcerer> Ahh - do you mean the title or the actual report?
[08:58] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:01] <BigRedS> the actual report
[09:04] <TheOpenSourcerer> BigRedS: How about a screenshot and description of any error message (or not as the case may be)?
[09:08] <BigRedS> There's no error message, just no "set label" button
[09:08] <BigRedS> think I'll just file it and wait and see if it provokes questions
[09:12] <Myrtti> popey: first hole in my nabees :-(
[09:14] <shrik> TheOpenSourcerer: does "Print Screen" work for taking screenshots during installation?
[09:14] <BigRedS> Presumably in the liveCD
[09:14] <BigRedS> at least
[09:14] <TheOpenSourcerer> shrik: Dunno. Good question though.
[09:31] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[09:32] <BigRedS> Goood Morning!
[09:33] <brobostigon> morning BigRedS
[09:37] <mungbean> 1tb on flickr :-|
[09:39] <BigRedS> blimey
[09:39] <BigRedS> I keep forgetting flickr exists
[09:39] <MartijnVdS> I was just in the process of switching to G+ as its photo bits are a lot better
[09:39] <MartijnVdS> also integrated with social features
[09:40] <mungbean> you are using 0.046% of your 1TB
[09:40]  * mungbean closes the snobby 500px account
[09:45] <Myrtti> I push my mobile phone photos to Google+ as a backup, but all the photos I actually care of go to Flickr. I hope their new Android app has some kind of automation
[09:45] <Myrtti> I haven't yet looked
[09:46] <mungbean> the slight thing about flickr is that it is now more "social"
[09:46] <mungbean> but i only have 2 contacts on there
[09:46] <mungbean> so it forces you to remove them all or add more
[09:46] <mungbean> because their pics dominate
[09:47] <mungbean> i'm glad they are trying to be awesome again though
[09:48] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: phone version has no auto-upload
[09:48] <MartijnVdS> also, I can't figure out how to do anything except "show photos my contacts made"
[09:48] <MartijnVdS> *remove*
[09:49] <mungbean> be patient, it will come
[09:49] <MartijnVdS> I already auto-upload to Google. I don't need two backups
[09:49] <MartijnVdS> <famous last words>
[09:50] <Myrtti> I'd rather auto-upload to flickr...
[09:50] <mungbean> +1
[09:50] <shauno> kinda bizarre situation atm where I'd actually trust flickr to stick around longer
[09:51] <MartijnVdS> shauno: my real backups are on my own physical media
[09:51] <MartijnVdS> and at my parents'
[09:51] <mungbean> mine are in amazon glacier
[09:51] <MartijnVdS> g+ and/or flickr shutting down would only be an inconvenience
[09:51] <mungbean> pay a few pennies for it
[09:51] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: I've got them there too :)
[09:51] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: $1.50/month
[09:52] <MartijnVdS> my NAS supports automatic timed backups to Glacier. Win :)
[09:52] <DJones> Who needs backups, if ever you lose a file/picture etc, just email MI6/Homeland security and ask them for a copy that they've 'stored for security purposes' :)
[09:52] <MartijnVdS> DJones: Of course. But convenience man!
[09:53] <shauno> that doesn't actually seem impossible.  just cc your local MP on everything, and then file freedom of information request if you ever need it back
[09:54] <MartijnVdS> or wait for a more (or less) reputable newspaper to do it for you
[09:54] <MartijnVdS> "Whose nude pics are those, mr MP?"
[09:55] <brobostigon> just found an interesting phrasing of a photo setting in android g+ app, "auto-awesome".
[09:55] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: yeah, it creates an animated gif, or panorama, or some other coolness
[09:55] <MartijnVdS> I think
[09:55] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: interesting,
[09:55] <MartijnVdS> https://support.google.com/plus/answer/3113884?p=photos_auto_awesome&rd=1
[09:58] <Myrtti> or does all the levels and contrasts and smoothing for you
[09:58] <MartijnVdS> that's auto-improve, I think
[09:58] <MartijnVdS> separate feature
[09:59] <brobostigon> looks interesting,
[09:59] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: the phone pics in my "England" album are auto-optimized
[09:59] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: https://plus.google.com/photos/100189567362844794281/albums/5877491002319853233
[10:00] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: what is auto-optimised then ?
[10:00] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: that's the automatic levels/contrast thing Myrtti mentioned
[10:00] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: ah, :)
[10:00] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: it makes colours a bit brighter, and makes more details visible
[10:00] <Myrtti> mmm distracted by cookies
[10:02] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: some good pictures there.
[10:02] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: thanks :)
[10:02] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: :)
[10:02] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: I have a few more I haven't bothered to convert to JPG yet :)
[10:02] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: ah, :)
[10:03] <MartijnVdS> also.. land's end is a LOOOOONG drive
[10:03] <brobostigon> loool
[10:04] <Myrtti> admittedly my flickr and google+ has a lot of photos nowadays I can't watch, but that's life. I'd give you a link to my auto-improved pictures, but I auto-improved them last week and cried enough then, I'll wait for a few weeks before I'll look at them again.
[10:04]  * Myrtti tries to distract herself with cookies again
[10:05]  * mungbean looks at baby pics
[10:06] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: your own? :)
[10:07] <mungbean> yes, that would be....weird
[10:08] <mungbean> even when baby is screaming i look at cute pics to remind me she can be cute
[10:08] <MartijnVdS> haha aww
[10:08] <mungbean> suppress the rage/furstration
[10:08] <MartijnVdS> how did people do that before computers?
[10:09] <MartijnVdS> or before *photography*
[10:09] <mungbean> e.g. http://ubuntuone.com/0cImRHlVUg1Ri2ejsUYyvd
[10:09] <MartijnVdS> mischievous smile
[10:09] <mungbean> aww how could a cutie like that scream so much
[10:09] <mungbean> etc etc
[10:10] <Myrtti> mustard machine
[10:10] <mungbean> colmans english
[10:10] <mungbean> or, humbrol 24, trainer yellow
[10:11] <mungbean> since breastfeeding stopped, we stopped getting the coarse grain mustard
[10:32] <BigRedS> That was a really weird sentence before I read up to see the history. I sort-of wish I hadn't
[10:33] <mungbean> heh context
[10:37] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:57] <brobostigon> i think a bacon sarnie is called for for lunch, :)
[11:37] <mungbean> cannot sign into gmail chat from pidgin. looks like the xmpp droppage happened already
[11:37] <MartijnVdS> that's quick
[11:37] <mungbean> bad habit they are developing of ditching stuff at short ntoice
[11:37] <Laney> i'm still on it
[11:38] <shauno> federation was still working for me about 8 hours ago
[11:39] <JamesTait> Morning all! :)
[11:40] <Laney> morning UTC, anyway
[11:43] <mungbean> seems broke now
[11:43] <DJones> I thought Google were going to continue to allow xmpp connections from apps like pidgin
[11:43] <mungbean> i wonder if its at all possible to get hangouts wroking on pidgin
[11:43] <mungbean> DJones: don't look possible atm
[11:43] <DJones> mungbean: This is what I was going on http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/05/hands-on-with-hangouts-googles-new-text-and-video-chat-architecture/
[11:44] <Laney> just signed out and in, still works
[11:44] <DJones> In the good news, bad news section
[11:45] <DJones> "he good news is that Hangouts will still support client-to-server connections via XMPP, though only for one-to-one text chat. That means that Web and client-side chat applications that have used XMPP to connect to Google Talk will still be able to see presence information about their contacts in Google+ and chat with them via text in Hangouts. That news will come as relief to users of multi-service IM clients such as Adium, Pidgin, and Web-based an
[11:45] <mungbean> fantastic
[11:45] <mungbean> restarted pidgin and connected now :P
[11:46] <penguin42> I wish I could still see presence data on the G+ web interface
[11:46] <shauno> I think that'd require people to actually use G+?
[11:47] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: in the phone app, offline people have a faded-out icon
[11:52] <MattJ> Google :/
[12:03] <Myrtti> DJones: got cut off at Adium,  Pidgin, and Web-based a
[12:05] <DJones> Myrtti: such as Aduim, Pidgin, and Web-based and mobile tools like Imo and Xumi.
[12:06] <DJones> Didn't really cut much off
[12:08] <Myrtti> what client are you using?
[12:09] <Myrtti> if irssi, load splitlong.pl
[12:10] <DJones> I'll have a look at it
[12:13] <DJones> Ta, that works, I alreadey had it installed, just had forgotten to autoload it
[12:36] <HM_> diplo: ty
[13:28] <diplo> AlanBell / TheOpenSourcerer : What is the dedi server company you use in Europe, having a blank atm
[13:28] <diplo> Begins with an H I'm sure
[13:29] <TheOpenSourcerer> Hetzner?
[13:29] <diplo> aha, was just about to type
[13:29] <diplo> that
[13:29] <diplo> Ta
[13:29] <diplo> Still happy with them
[13:29] <TheOpenSourcerer> http://www.hetzner.de/page_en.htm
[13:29] <TheOpenSourcerer> Yep. No issues really.
[13:29]  * AlanBell is also happy with them
[13:30] <AlanBell> apparently not so great if you need lots of support
[13:30] <diplo> No, we just use a company that sucks some of the time
[13:31] <diplo> Either going with a VPS from them, or debating about a dedi box
[13:31]  * penguin42 uses Bytemark
[13:31] <diplo> Just don't understand how they're so cheap
[13:32] <TheOpenSourcerer> Scale I think.
[13:32] <AlanBell> bytemark and bitfolk are also good, probably better for vps, but we wanted cheap real hardware with lots of bandwidth
[13:33] <diplo> My biggest downside is the server be it VPS/Dedi needs to be administered by some non sys admin people
[13:33] <diplo> So our current people offer cpanel/whm with the VPS..
[13:33] <diplo> Have debated wedmin though
[13:33] <diplo> or ispconfig
[13:33] <AlanBell> cpanel /o\
[13:34] <TheOpenSourcerer> Arrggghhhh
[13:34] <TheOpenSourcerer> That and Plesk. Bags of #fail.
[13:34] <penguin42> diplo: http://www.bytemark.co.uk/hosting/symbiosis
[13:34] <diplo> I don't use them personally, but they don't want to be to dependant on me :)
[13:35] <diplo> So I'm open to any suggestions, thanks penguin42 looking now
[13:36] <diplo> In 20+ years of this company running, I've wrote more documentation in the last 2 weeks than combined 10+ staff have in that time :P
[13:38] <BigRedS> diplo: webmin has the distinct advantage that you can still administer the machine normally
[13:38] <diplo> yeah.. going to set up a test box and see how the others get on with it I think
[13:39] <diplo> They *know* cpanel and want that, but it also costs £10-15 a month extra..
[13:39] <diplo> that symbiosis is opensource, maybe worth a play
[13:40] <penguin42> diplo: I've not tried it
[13:42] <BigRedS> webmin is a good deal less featureful than cpanel
[13:42] <diplo> I think I'll order a plain old VPS, test that with webmin for a week, ISPConfig for a week and then maybe try that symbiosis for a week and whichever they like the most we can try for the last week a second time
[13:42] <BigRedS> and you probably want to add virtualmin; lots of people seem to not notice it. Adds proper vhost support in apache & postfix
[13:43] <diplo> yeah I had a quick play myself, about to move office soon and have a spare line so may even test on there
[13:44] <diplo> I suppose I could test in a VM here later
[14:06] <bigcalm> mgdm: is this still the best way of preserving numeric keys when merging arrays? http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.array-merge.php#40205
[14:08] <mgdm> bigcalm: not something I do a lot of, but if it works then I don't see anything wrong
[14:09] <bigcalm> mgdm: fair enough. Just a 9 year old comment is still relevant...
[14:35] <davmor2> bigcalm: Alex has joined the 21century and got broadband :)
[14:53] <bigcalm> davmor2: lucky lad. We'll never see him at the LUG again. Too busy downloading things
[14:54] <davmor2> bigcalm: I said to him you want to download an iso just cause you can and be amazed at how quick it arrives, he said I've already got 13.04 installed.....D'oh
[16:00] <brianb> hi
[16:01] <brianb> have a problem with k3d
[16:04] <penguin42> it would be better if you said what the problemw as
[16:05] <brianb> having problem writing to disk
[16:05] <brianb> says no write permmisions
[16:05] <penguin42> where is it trying to write?
[16:06] <brianb> to either a usb cd/dvd drive or the internal cd/dvd drive
[16:07] <brianb> also canot see my internal usb drive when using home
[16:07] <brianb> have ubuntu12.04 installed on a laptop
[16:08] <brianb> k3d shows both drives
[16:10] <MartijnVdS> KDE, there's your problem :P
[16:12] <brianb> even brasero will not burn to cd/dvd
[16:13] <MartijnVdS> any error messages?
[16:15] <diplo> Error 503 Backend is unhealthy
[16:15] <diplo> :(
[16:15] <brianb> just seems to come up with error while burning unknown error occured
[16:16] <MartijnVdS> brianb: does cdrecord file.iso work
[16:16] <MartijnVdS> on the command line?
[16:16] <brianb> im trying to burn a iso file
[16:16] <MartijnVdS> brianb: yes, if you open a terminal, can you burn it using "cdrecord"?
[16:17] <brianb> have not tried that
[16:17] <MartijnVdS> because if you can, the problem is not in talking to the drive, it's one of the layers between the GUI and "cdrecord"
[16:18] <penguin42> brianb: Oh, you mean k3b!
[16:18] <brianb> and would that be on both k3d and brasero?
[16:19] <MartijnVdS> brianb: could be
[16:19] <MartijnVdS> brianb: the advantage of cdrecord is that it actually gives useful error messages ;)
[16:19] <brianb> what command do i need to enter in the terminal
[16:19] <MartijnVdS> brianb: where is the .iso file?
[16:19] <MartijnVdS> in ~/Downloads?
[16:19] <MartijnVdS> then:
[16:20] <MartijnVdS> cdrecord ~/Downloads/your_file.iso
[16:20] <MartijnVdS> If you have more than one CD/DVD drive, use:
[16:20] <MartijnVdS> cdrecord dev=/dev/XXX ~/Downloads/your_file.iso
[16:21] <MartijnVdS> where XXX = the device name of your drive
[16:21] <MartijnVdS> (see dmesg, probably)
[16:21] <brianb> yes a usb and the internal cd drive
[16:21] <MartijnVdS> brianb: can you put the output of "dmesg" on pastebin
[16:21] <MartijnVdS> oh wait
[16:22] <MartijnVdS> "cdrecord -prcap" prints capabilities of all drives, including their names
[16:23] <MartijnVdS> if you could pastebin *that*, it would be more helpful than dmesg, I think
[16:24] <brianb> ok im trying to use the cdrecord cmd first
[16:25] <MartijnVdS> !pastebin :)
[16:25] <MartijnVdS> !pastebin
[16:25] <MartijnVdS> :)
[16:29] <brianb> in the terminal it dects both drives but msg says wodim : no write mode specific
[16:29] <MartijnVdS> brianb: can you paste everything cdrecord/wodim writes into the terminal on paste.ubuntu.com?
[16:30] <brianb> how do i do that
[16:30] <MartijnVdS> brianb: you can copy the text as usual.. with the mouse and right-click "Copy"
[16:31] <MartijnVdS> brianb: then go to paste.ubuntu.com with a web browser, and paste it there
[16:31] <MartijnVdS> it'll give you a link to paste here
[16:31] <brianb> ok
[16:32] <brianb> ive disconnect the usb drive and tried the cdrecord cmd trying to write to the intenal cd/dvd drive
[16:32] <brianb> my url thats my email ?
[16:33] <MartijnVdS> No, http://paste.ubuntu.com/ -> poster = "brianb", Content = whatever cdrecord says
[16:33] <MartijnVdS> then click "Paste!" and it will tell you what to do
[16:34] <brianb> ok
[16:34] <brianb> i will redo the terminal again
[16:35] <MartijnVdS> brianb: the URL will look like http://paste.ubuntu.com/12342342
[16:35] <MartijnVdS> brianb: if you paste that here, we can see what you pasted :)
[16:39] <brianb> just going to past
[16:40] <MartijnVdS> ok, what's the URL of the paste?
[16:42] <brianb> 5687505
[16:42] <MartijnVdS> "Cannot load media"
[16:42] <MartijnVdS> is the drive closed?
[16:42] <brianb> yes
[16:43] <MartijnVdS> brianb: can you pastebin the output of "cdrecord -prcap"
[16:45] <brianb> yes
[16:45] <brianb> 5687516
[16:47] <MartijnVdS> It only detects one drive
[16:48] <brianb> yes because i have disconected the usb cd/dvd and have tried to use the internal cd/dvd drive
[16:49] <MartijnVdS> can you connect the external drive, run "cdrecord -prcap" again (and pastebin its output), please?
[16:49] <brianb> so it should write to its internal drive
[16:49] <brianb> ok
[16:49] <MartijnVdS> yeah, but it thinks the drive is open and it can't close it.. for some reason
[16:49] <brianb> do i need any media in the usb drive?
[16:49] <MartijnVdS> no
[16:52] <brianb> 5687540
[16:53] <MartijnVdS> still just detects the one drive
[16:53] <MartijnVdS>   Number of supported write speeds: 0
[16:53] <MartijnVdS> Uh.. wut?
[16:53] <MartijnVdS> Looks like the drive returns garbage
[16:53] <penguin42> bit limiting :-)
[16:53] <brianb> dont i have to put some media in to mont the drive?
[16:54] <MartijnVdS> brianb: hm, maybe prcap only prints capabilities of the default drive
[16:54] <MartijnVdS> brianb: let me check
[16:54] <MartijnVdS> can you try "cdrecord -inq"
[16:54] <penguin42> brianb: I'd say it's worth getting the info with media in
[16:58] <brianb> ok tryed both cdrecord -inq and prcap with media in
[16:58] <MartijnVdS> is the second drive detected?
[16:58] <brianb> 5687553
[16:58] <MartijnVdS> if not, can you paste the last screne of output of "dmesg"?
[16:58] <brianb> yes i can access it via home
[17:01] <brianb> the paste still appears the same even though there are two drives present?
[17:03] <MartijnVdS> hence my question: could you paste the last screenful of "dmesg" output?
[17:04] <brianb> yes just doing it
[17:05] <brianb> its a large txt
[17:05] <MartijnVdS> brianb: dmesg is large, the last few lines should be enough (10-20 lines)
[17:06] <bigcalm> dmesg | tail -20
[17:06] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: \o/
[17:06] <bigcalm> :)
[17:08] <bigcalm> Even better would be: dmesg | tail -20 | pastebinit
[17:10] <MartijnVdS> but not everyone has pastebinit installed
[17:10]  * MartijnVdS wants a TARDIS
[17:10] <brianb> 5687593
[17:10] <MartijnVdS> Or something that makes it the middle of june now
[17:11] <MartijnVdS> brianb: cdrecord dev=/dev/sr1 -prcap
[17:11] <MartijnVdS> brianb: cdrecord dev=/dev/sr1 the_file.iso
[17:11] <MartijnVdS> one PRints CAPabilities
[17:11] <MartijnVdS> the other should record.
[17:11] <brianb> so what would you like?
[17:11] <MartijnVdS> try prcap first
[17:12] <MartijnVdS> then if that shows the capabilities properly try the recording option
[17:13] <brianb> says the device is busy
[17:13] <MartijnVdS> hmm
[17:14] <MartijnVdS> sounds like some other program is using it then
[17:14] <brianb> using the prcap do i need to take the media out?
[17:14] <MartijnVdS> no
[17:16] <bigcalm> MartijnVdS: pastebinit is easy enough to install: sudo apt-get install pastebinit :)
[17:17] <brianb> still says its buys
[17:17] <brianb> says the device is\mounted
[17:17] <brianb> its busy....
[17:18] <brobostigon> question, and an interesting one, does such software exist, so if you take sufficiant and detailed pictures, it can create an type of 3d dimensions, from those pictures ?
[17:22] <brianb> 5687625 for both
[17:25] <brianb> any ideas what might be causing the problem
[17:26] <WickedBInary> hi
[17:33] <brianb> 5687658 another try without any media
[17:34] <ali1234> brobostigon: yes it exists
[17:34] <brobostigon> ali1234: what is it called ?
[17:35] <ali1234> brobostigon: "the software that makes kinect work"
[17:35] <brobostigon> ali1234: hmmmm,
[17:37] <bigcalm> brobostigon: you want whatever they were using in Darkman
[17:37] <brobostigon> bigcalm: darkman ?
[17:38] <bigcalm> brobostigon: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099365/
[17:38] <bigcalm> What I said would only make sense if you had seen the film
[17:41] <brobostigon> bigcalm: ah.
[19:49] <Guest60170> can anyone help me partition recovery with lubuntu and windows7?
[19:50] <Guest60170> I used testdisk and it got the intact partition table. I then used the write options. then it asks to restart. and after that I get no change.
[21:33] <bigcalm> Good evening peeps :)
[21:33] <mgdm> evening bigcalm
[21:34] <bigcalm> Having a fun evening, mgdm?
[21:35] <mgdm> for some values of 'fun', I suppose
[21:35] <bigcalm> :)
[21:38] <bigcalm> !oggcamp
[21:38] <bigcalm> Humm
[21:38] <bigcalm> Is there to be an oggcamp this year I wonder. August is only 3 months away
[21:39] <bigcalm> As much as I enjoyed phpnw, it's not the same thing
[21:41] <bigcalm> I see gpg support for Geary has been pushed from 0.4.0 to 0.5.0 :S
[21:42] <mgdm> bigcalm: look at oggcamp.org
[21:42] <mgdm> bigcalm: and you really ought to try and make Whisky Web next year ;-)
[21:44] <bigcalm> mgdm: then there is hope!
[21:44] <bigcalm> mgdm: humms
[21:44] <bigcalm> mgdm: Yes, I probably should
[21:45] <mgdm> I will make damn sure you know about it, at least
[21:47] <bigcalm> :D
[21:48] <bigcalm> What month is it likely to be in?
[21:48] <mgdm> April/May-ish
[21:49] <bigcalm> Ok I'll try and cater for it :)
[21:49] <mgdm> \o/
[21:55]  * bigcalm grumblingly writes a spec
[21:55] <mgdm> anything exciting?
[21:55] <bigcalm> I had no idea that "grumblingly" was a word that didn't upset the spell checker
[21:55] <mgdm> heh
[21:56] <mgdm> I wonder if there's a point where you're so far off the map that it gives up
[21:56] <bigcalm> Heh, I think my phone does that
[21:57] <bigcalm> Not an exciting spec. Just an admin interface to a gearman job queue within a project
[21:59] <bigcalm> I don't think Geary likes me using 4 imap accounts. Damn thing keeps crashing
[22:01] <mungbean> crashes with one fir me
[22:01] <mungbean> uploaded logs to lp
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