[00:20] <snap-l> Picked up another Vornado fan
[00:20] <snap-l> ANd nothing wrong with using RPMs. They're easy to build and deploy
[00:20] <snap-l> and easy to verify
[12:59] <snap-l> Good morning
[13:00] <snap-l> Spending my last day of vacation at the Caribou in Royak Oak waiting for J to get out of class.
[13:49] <rick_h_> morning party people
[13:52] <brousch> in the place to be
[13:54] <snap-l> Woo woo
[14:02] <rick_h_> yea, something like that
[14:19] <snap-l> I'm only 20 pages into this Understanding C Pointers book and I've learned more about pointers than in the 20 odd years of half-assed noodling
[14:30] <snap-l> I blame most of that on me trying to avoid pointers like a plague
[14:31] <brousch> I hate pointers
[14:35] <snap-l> They're not my favorite either, but I'm finding they're more important than we give them credit
[14:35] <snap-l> and years of avoinding them is tiring. :)
[14:36] <brousch> It is easy to avoid them. Use a sane language.
[14:38] <jrwren> yesterday ssh_import_id: [evarlast] to my ubuntu cloud instance worked perfectly. today it doesn't. typical ubuntu? :)
[14:38] <jrwren> pointers: I don't see the big deal.
[14:42] <jrwren> *doh* that #cloud-config line is NOT a comment :)
[14:42] <rick_h_> heh
[14:42] <jrwren> at least I hope that is the issue. *fingers crossed*
[14:43] <jrwren> yes, that was it.
[14:47] <rick_h_> woot
[15:29] <greg-g> back from my first ACM conference (well, workshop)
[15:29] <greg-g> met a guy who reminds me a lot of jrwren  :)
[15:30] <brousch> What's acm?
[15:30] <greg-g> Association of Computing Machines
[15:30]  * greg-g didn't make the Ass. jokpe
[15:30] <greg-g> -p
[15:31] <brousch> Is that a real thing?
[15:31] <brousch> I saw an invite to it and threw it away
[15:33] <jrwren> brousch: ACM is the professional society for computer scientists.
[15:33] <greg-g> uh, yeah. biggest/most "respected" academic CS society
[15:33] <jrwren> it is the IEEE of computer science
[15:33]  * greg-g nods
[15:33] <jrwren> brousch: if you have a computer science degree, then I'm disgusted that you don't know what ACM is.
[15:33] <greg-g> not really useful if you're not academic, about 99% of the time
[15:33] <greg-g> jrwren: he was anthro
[15:33] <jrwren> if you don't havea  comp science degree, then it is totally understandable.
[15:33] <brousch> I don't have a computer science degree. I blame pointers.
[15:34] <jrwren> i was all happy to finally actually join ACM just a couple months ago.
[15:34] <jrwren> greg-g: so what was the workshop?
[15:45] <greg-g> Release Engineering, first one of its kind. about 80 people, with a 60/40% industry/academia (which means it was useful for me)
[15:46] <rick_h_> very cool
[15:46] <greg-g> jrwren: two keynotes, one from Mozilla's RelEng lead and VP of Eng from LinkedIn
[15:47] <greg-g> LinkedIn, nevermind their business side, has some pretty awesome developer tools in-house
[15:48] <greg-g> oh, the person who reminded me of you jrwren (maybe because I haven't seen you in a while) was a previous release manager for subversion
[15:48] <greg-g> now at... Google?
[15:49] <jrwren> sweet.
[15:49] <jrwren> yes, linkedin does have to some sweet tech. its too bad that they are linkedin
[15:50] <greg-g> yep :)
[15:51] <jrwren> https://github.com/linkedin
[20:11] <rick_h_> greg-g: ping
[20:13] <greg-g> pongzor
[20:35] <brousch> Who's going to PyOhio this year?
[20:39] <jrwren> maybe?
[20:39] <jrwren> i'm not sure
[23:05] <rick_h_> I'm going
[23:05] <rick_h_> though I'm worried about it this year