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Kilosmorning all06:25
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Kilosmorning all06:31
Kiloshiya maiatoday 06:47
maiatodayhi Kilos06:48
Kiloslo Vince-0 06:54
Vince-0hii07:08
ThatGraemeGuymorning all07:27
Kiloshi superfly  ThatGraemeGuy henkj 07:58
ThatGraemeGuy'ello :)07:59
Kilossorry for hopping in and out. trying to find why xchat sound dont work on xubuntu08:00
Kilosotherwise xubuntu 12.04 is nice and fast08:01
ThatGraemeGuymmmmm08:02
ThatGraemeGuyxchat has sounds?08:02
* ThatGraemeGuy uses it on xubuntu08:02
Kilosim back on unity now08:02
Kilosoh my08:02
ThatGraemeGuyoh, there are no sounds defined by default08:02
Kilosdo you get bloeps on alerts08:02
ThatGraemeGuymy xchat is completely silent08:03
Kilosya mine too on xubuntu08:03
ThatGraemeGuyyowzer08:04
ThatGraemeGuyif i select an mp3 and click play it just screams in my ear08:04
Kilosive put bell.ogg in /usr/share/sounds and tried the external way but dunno what make it play and dunno how to tell xchat to use alsa08:05
ThatGraemeGuymaybe it doesn't support mp3 mmm08:05
ThatGraemeGuyyou can try external program = /usr/bin/aplay08:05
Kilosi have a very similar prob if i try quassel or konversation here on unity08:06
Kilosah ty will try that ThatGraemeGuy 08:06
Kilosi rely on sound to alert me08:06
ThatGraemeGuydoesn't seem to work for me08:07
Kilosears are better than eye still08:07
Kiloshehe08:07
Kilospidgin sounds work well on xubuntu though08:07
Kilosonly xchat no happy08:07
Kilosunity and kde have no probs with sound08:08
ThatGraemeGuyah08:08
ThatGraemeGuylooks like xchat plays .wav just fine08:09
Kilosoh my08:09
Kilosmaybe it dont like .ogg files08:10
ThatGraemeGuyor mp3 either it seems08:10
Kilosbell.ogg has always been the xchat default sound08:10
Kilosneil always said he had to install mplayer to get sound going08:13
Kilosbut that dont help xubuntu08:15
henkjhi kilos08:26
Kiloshi SAHitman 08:26
SAHitmanHappy Tuesday08:26
Kilosyeah08:27
Kilosthis is the ubuntu community help channel08:27
Kilosyou on a bb hey?08:27
SAHitmanSamsung08:35
Kilosah08:35
Kilosmy mistake. 08:36
SAHitmanI have had 3 of them08:43
Kiloss308:44
SAHitmanNote208:44
mazalMorning all08:51
Kiloshi mazal 08:51
mazalSaw the bad news last night about remastersys that is not being developed anymore :-(08:53
Kilosno man mazal it is08:57
magespawnit has been forked09:02
mazalmagespawn, I have read something like that yes09:09
mazalI hope the new guys do a good job on it. It is one of my most used tools09:10
Kilosi got it for 12.04 a week or so ago and did kde and unity and both work fine09:11
Kiloshi Xethron 09:11
Xethronhi Kilos 09:11
mazalKilos ya there is still repo for 12.04 and 12.10 , but from here on in someone else has it now09:11
Kilosah09:12
mazalI currently use 12.10's repo until it goes down09:12
Kiloswell by the time 12.04 has gone 3 years im sure something will be sorted09:13
Kilos12.04 is supported longer than 12.1009:13
XethronI always wondered, whats up with Ubuntu's version numbers .04 and .10?09:13
mazalApril and October09:13
mazalThe month it releases in09:13
Kilosthats the release month09:14
Xethronaaaaah. wow.09:14
Kiloswhew im too slow09:14
mazal:-P09:14
mazallol09:14
Kilosmazal, is your buddy still there too?09:16
mazalKilos but I think the developer is going to take down both 12.04 and 12.10's repos as it's 3rd party that he maintains himself09:16
Kilosoh you mean for remastersys?09:16
mazalYep he is here , working way too hard09:16
mazalyep09:17
Kilosthen get it now09:17
Kiloshehe09:17
mazalYa current install is fine , I'm worrying for 13.1009:17
Kiloslol09:18
Kilosdont worry about stuff thats still far ahead09:18
mazalI also still want to play with X , but just don't get the time hey09:19
mazalAns also still need external for it09:19
Kilosplay with x how?09:19
mazalXubuntu I'm speaking off09:19
Kilosoh i got that too09:19
Kilosbut 12.0409:19
mazalWant to install it to external and just play a bit to check it out09:20
Kilosfaster than unity09:20
mazalGot as far as downloading the iso lol09:20
Kilosonly prob i can find it no sound in xchat09:20
ThatGraemeGuyKilos, sound works fine if you use .wav files09:44
Kiloswill try it when i go x again ty ThatGraemeGuy 09:44
Kiloswill vonvert the .ogg to .wav09:44
Kilosconvert09:44
Kilosits like winsucks then with its wav files09:45
Kilosmaybe there is something to install that will let it use .ogg files09:46
Kilossome gnome stuff09:46
Kilosi think i got it working on 11.04 but thats hard to remember what i did09:47
ThatGraemeGuyif you have mplayer installed you can tell it to use external program /usr/bin/mplayer09:47
ThatGraemeGuyi thought /usr/bin/aplay would work but that doesn't support anything but .wav09:47
Kilosah great ty09:48
ThatGraemeGuyand mplayer will play every format ever invented09:48
Kilosstrange to see a ubuntu flavour that dont like .ogg09:49
ThatGraemeGuyits just xchat that only supports wav by default09:49
Kilosyeah crazy hey? all other sound works09:49
Kiloslemme go back to x09:52
Kiloswbb09:52
Kilos-w000t10:11
Kilos-ty ThatGraemeGuy 10:11
Kilos-had to add the path to some goodies in that settings page10:12
Kilos-one of them was the right one10:12
Kilos-hehe10:13
charlgood afternoon10:16
charlMaaz: coffee on10:16
* Maaz starts grinding coffee10:16
Kilos-hi charl 10:16
charlhi Kilos- 10:16
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!10:20
Kilos-hi nlsthzn 10:26
Kilos-magespawn, 1 more10:27
Kilos-hi psyatw 10:27
Kilos-aw10:28
psyatwhi Kilos10:28
nlsthznhello uncle Kilos 10:28
psyatwhi nlsthzn10:28
nlsthznhi psyatw ... in poland?10:30
psyatwnlsthzn, yes, I am in poland now10:30
nlsthzncool10:31
Kilos-hi drussell winter comin here fast. hope you get some warmer weather there10:36
magespawnKilos: one comes one goes, but overall the numbers go up10:36
Kilos-yeah10:37
Kilos-but keeps stopping short of 5010:37
Kilos-sigh10:37
Kilosoh my10:38
magespawnwell is Some people would stay ....10:41
Kilossigh10:43
nlsthzneverything ok uncle Kilos ?10:43
Kilosyes ty nlsthzn just all these peeps that go before we get to 5010:44
nlsthzn50 users in channel you mean?10:44
Kilosya then i can retire10:44
nlsthznhmmm... would rather have 10 active than 100 lurking...10:45
Kilospeeps are to busy to be active unless you call them10:46
Kiloseven then you can wait some10:46
nlsthznpoint is, what difference is 50 or 51 users that are afk going to make? ... Well anyhow, I better go make myself human... bbl10:47
Kiloslol10:49
nuvolario/10:52
Kiloslo nuvolari 10:54
Kilosgebruik jy xubuntu of xfce10:55
Xethron_lol11:14
Xethron_Ek stem nogal saam met nlsthzn.11:15
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magespawnthat is true, I think Kilos is trying to get at least 50 active members11:16
Xethronwhois trender?11:21
Kilossome oke in durbs11:24
Kilosworking on old nas boxes11:25
superflyohi Xethron12:26
mazalBye all12:41
mazalHave a good evening12:41
nuvolariKilos: ek gebruik xubuntu oom13:16
nuvolariwel, ubuntu base met xubuntu transitional package 13:17
Kiloso13:17
Kilosdis nie te sleg nie, en vinniger as unity en kde13:18
charlxubuntu transitional? transitional to what?13:29
Kiloslol13:50
Kilosto xubuntu from ubuntu man13:51
Kilosunity made him lame13:51
Kilosmost likely added xubuntu-desktop13:54
Kilosor xfce or something13:55
charloh now i understand it13:55
charlyou get transitional packages but afaik xubuntu-desktop wasn't one of them, hence the confusion13:56
charlyou just install the xubuntu-desktop alongside the ubuntu-desktop packages13:56
Kilosya13:57
Kilosit should be in synaptic13:57
charli installed ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-desktop on some machines13:57
charlbut then you get so many packages that need to be maintained and constantly updated, it becomes a pain13:57
charlit's possible but not exactly "clean"13:58
Kiloslol thats why my saved archives are 6.2 g13:58
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Trixar_zaI need to redo this desktop. Find something lighter that doesn't look too bad. Maybe latest spacefm with pekwm and some lightweight taskbar14:09
charlTrixar_za: spacefm looks good but it doesn't have a package in the standard repositories so i typically go with thunar14:17
Trixar_zaNot a real problem for me consider I'm the one that must semi-maintain it for SliTaz14:18
charllol14:18
Trixar_zaNot so sure I want to use lxpanel though. What else is good?14:18
charli use tint214:19
charlthere could be better ones though, i am open to suggestions14:19
charlany advantages of pekwm above openbox?14:20
Trixar_zaSo far, all I see is that it has better looking themes :P14:24
Trixar_zaStill have to figure out how to auto-start applications in it or if that's even possible...14:25
charlit = pekwm or openbox?14:25
Trixar_zapekwm14:25
charlah i see14:25
charli saw some screenshots and actually thought the opposite :)14:25
Trixar_zaProbably because the default theme sucks :P14:26
Trixar_zahttps://www.pekwm.org/projects/3/wikis/Screenshots14:26
Symmetriahttp://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=ZAR&view=1W14:32
Symmetriagoddamn14:32
charlthe first look terrible and then the last couple look great14:32
charlSymmetria: the rand broke (again)?14:33
Symmetriacharl, heh, rand is plunging 14:33
Symmetriawhich is good for me, but terrible for everyone else14:33
Symmetria(all my earnings are in dollars, without exception)14:35
nuvolariTrixar_za: if you're worried about themes, use xmonad :P14:37
Trixar_zaHmmm, maybe IceWM too14:43
Trixar_zaMostly because of this theme: http://box-look.org/content/show.php/FauxGlass?content=7323814:43
charlyeah it depends a lot on the theme14:48
charli just need something that looks "acceptable", i don't need anything fancy14:48
Symmetrialol new fun game to play with my stupid dog, that photo booth application on my macbook, haha load it, stick notebook infront of dog, dog starts watching herself, and eventually starts barking and growling at herself14:51
Symmetriaits like sticking a mirror infront of her14:51
charlit's more realistic even because she doesn't get a mirrored reflection but the "proper" image15:00
charlnot that she would notice15:01
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Kilosaw me missed the honeymy15:32
Kiloshehe15:32
Guest2700hlw15:46
Kiloshi Guest2700 15:46
nlsthzntime to see what the new xbox will have in store ...16:58
XethronKilos: what do you do for a living?17:29
Kilosim disabled kinda Xethron 17:30
Kiloscant work anymore17:30
Kilosjust cook and wash dishes and look after sheep on my sisters plot17:31
Kilosand told you yesterday im a ballie17:32
Kilosnlsthzn, are xboxes better the playstations17:34
nlsthznI believe so but it is all opinion17:37
nlsthznthe new one looks awesome17:37
Kiloslol17:39
nlsthznthey upped memory from 512mb to 8gb, octo core :)17:42
Kiloswhew17:42
Tonberry_http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/008/2/2/_wallpaper__glorious_pc_gaming_master_race_by_admiralserenity-d5qvxos.png17:43
nlsthznlol17:43
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nlsthzng night18:04
smile4everHi :D18:06
Kiloshi smile4ever 18:06
smile4everHi kilos :)18:06
smile4everHow are you, my friend?18:06
Kilosgood ty and you young man?18:07
XethronKilos: ah. I see18:09
Kiloshehe18:10
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XethronKilos: you say you can't work anymore18:10
Xethronso, what did you do?18:10
Kilosbust my head wide open while working on a windmill18:10
smile4everKilos: I'm fine too18:11
smile4ever:)18:11
smile4everSkype 4.2, new version, was released18:11
XethronI mean, work wise. what work did you do?18:11
smile4everBut I'm not that sure it won't break anything on my Ubuntu Unity ;) So I just keep the old version18:11
Kilosoh sorry, was a diesel mechanic then farm manager18:11
Xethronah18:12
XethronSo you can fix my car?18:12
Xethron:P18:12
Kilosbut started in the gpo as a technician18:12
smile4everXethron: if you go to his home town, yes, he can :P18:12
Kiloswhats wrong with it18:13
Xethronlol18:13
Xethronag, I serviced it, and the plastic diesel pipes running in and out of the diesel filter where quite old, and I think the o-rings as well18:13
XethronSo, some how, it now leaks diesel... And gets air into the mix18:14
Kilosoh my do they use plastic nowadays18:14
Kilosoh those to the filter18:15
XethronStill runs well... And I can't buy the o-rings from Mercedes, and the pipes cost like R800/900 for the 5 pipes18:15
Xethronyeah, not the ones after the diesel pump. they still steel18:15
Kiloscheck where it leaks and replace the orings18:15
Kilostake a sample oring to midas or one of them they will match it18:16
XethronI bought two pipes. So gonne see if I can find the o-rings somewhere18:16
Xethronmidas said they don't have :/18:16
Kilosor even one of the diesle injection companies18:16
Kilosthere are companies that do the oring bit18:16
XethronBut, it was only a joke. :) Don't want to talk diesel in an ubuntu channel :P18:17
Kiloslemme ask sis if she remembers where we went18:17
XethronBut great to see there are a few IT guys that can work with their hands!18:17
Kiloswe went to a place called seal centre18:18
Kilosim no IT guy18:18
Kilosjust starting18:18
Kilosbut forget most of what i learn anyway18:18
Kilosthats why the guys all lurk when i come online18:19
Kiloswhere are you Xethron ?18:19
Kiloshi superfly cant remember if i greeted you inna morn18:24
Kiloshows the packing coming on18:24
superflyKilos: I can't either. It has been a busy day.18:25
smile4everXethron is fading away in the dark, Kilos18:25
Kiloshehe old age18:25
smile4everLike me ;)18:25
Kilosi see so smile4ever 18:25
smile4everSometimes, when I don't pay attention18:25
smile4ever:P18:25
Kilosyou guys are scared you have to think for me18:25
smile4everI get lost within the chat history and forget to answer18:25
Kiloslol18:25
smile4everKilos: why's that? :P Can't you think alone?18:26
Kilosnope my brains are online here18:26
Kilosyou read my blog18:26
Kilosthe working half of my brain is lying onna farm under a windmill18:27
smile4everI have read it yes. You don't write new episodes (days/chapters), do you?18:27
Kilosna i gave up18:28
Kilosclosed it down18:28
smile4ever:(18:30
smile4everThat's a pity :) Because it's worth reading18:30
Kilosive also run out of stuff to say18:31
Kiloshehe18:31
Kilosthat was a major effort that blog18:31
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Kiloshi Trixar_za 18:32
Trixar_zaHey Kilos18:32
Trixar_zaSo totally broke stuff18:32
smile4everKilos: thanks for the conversation :) 18:32
Trixar_za:P18:32
smile4everI have to go, I'm afraid18:32
smile4eversee ya18:32
smile4ever:)18:32
Kilosanytime smile4ever 18:32
Kilossleep tight laddy18:32
smile4everthanks :)18:34
Xethronsorry Kilos 19:00
XethronI looked it up19:00
XethronThere is one in Pretoria :D19:00
Kilosnp19:00
Xethronlike 30 mins from me19:00
Kilosin moot street19:00
Kilosthey normally can match any orings19:01
Kilosor even make them up for you19:01
Xethronsweet!!! :D19:01
Xethrongoing to give it a try!19:01
XethronI'll let you know if it works19:01
Kiloscool19:04
Kilosalso remember with diesel vehicles your diesel filter is about the most important thing to change when servbicing19:05
Kilosservicing19:05
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Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:40
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