[06:25] <Kilos> morning all
[06:31] <Kilos> morning all
[06:47] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[06:48] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[06:54] <Kilos> lo Vince-0 
[07:08] <Vince-0> hii
[07:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[07:58] <Kilos> hi superfly  ThatGraemeGuy henkj 
[07:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'ello :)
[08:00] <Kilos> sorry for hopping in and out. trying to find why xchat sound dont work on xubuntu
[08:01] <Kilos> otherwise xubuntu 12.04 is nice and fast
[08:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> mmmmm
[08:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> xchat has sounds?
[08:02]  * ThatGraemeGuy uses it on xubuntu
[08:02] <Kilos> im back on unity now
[08:02] <Kilos> oh my
[08:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh, there are no sounds defined by default
[08:02] <Kilos> do you get bloeps on alerts
[08:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> my xchat is completely silent
[08:03] <Kilos> ya mine too on xubuntu
[08:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> yowzer
[08:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> if i select an mp3 and click play it just screams in my ear
[08:05] <Kilos> ive put bell.ogg in /usr/share/sounds and tried the external way but dunno what make it play and dunno how to tell xchat to use alsa
[08:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe it doesn't support mp3 mmm
[08:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can try external program = /usr/bin/aplay
[08:06] <Kilos> i have a very similar prob if i try quassel or konversation here on unity
[08:06] <Kilos> ah ty will try that ThatGraemeGuy 
[08:06] <Kilos> i rely on sound to alert me
[08:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> doesn't seem to work for me
[08:07] <Kilos> ears are better than eye still
[08:07] <Kilos> hehe
[08:07] <Kilos> pidgin sounds work well on xubuntu though
[08:07] <Kilos> only xchat no happy
[08:08] <Kilos> unity and kde have no probs with sound
[08:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> ah
[08:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> looks like xchat plays .wav just fine
[08:09] <Kilos> oh my
[08:10] <Kilos> maybe it dont like .ogg files
[08:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> or mp3 either it seems
[08:10] <Kilos> bell.ogg has always been the xchat default sound
[08:13] <Kilos> neil always said he had to install mplayer to get sound going
[08:15] <Kilos> but that dont help xubuntu
[08:26] <henkj> hi kilos
[08:26] <Kilos> hi SAHitman 
[08:26] <SAHitman> Happy Tuesday
[08:27] <Kilos> yeah
[08:27] <Kilos> this is the ubuntu community help channel
[08:27] <Kilos> you on a bb hey?
[08:35] <SAHitman> Samsung
[08:35] <Kilos> ah
[08:36] <Kilos> my mistake. 
[08:43] <SAHitman> I have had 3 of them
[08:44] <Kilos> s3
[08:44] <SAHitman> Note2
[08:51] <mazal> Morning all
[08:51] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[08:53] <mazal> Saw the bad news last night about remastersys that is not being developed anymore :-(
[08:57] <Kilos> no man mazal it is
[09:02] <magespawn> it has been forked
[09:09] <mazal> magespawn, I have read something like that yes
[09:10] <mazal> I hope the new guys do a good job on it. It is one of my most used tools
[09:11] <Kilos> i got it for 12.04 a week or so ago and did kde and unity and both work fine
[09:11] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[09:11] <Xethron> hi Kilos 
[09:11] <mazal> Kilos ya there is still repo for 12.04 and 12.10 , but from here on in someone else has it now
[09:12] <Kilos> ah
[09:12] <mazal> I currently use 12.10's repo until it goes down
[09:13] <Kilos> well by the time 12.04 has gone 3 years im sure something will be sorted
[09:13] <Kilos> 12.04 is supported longer than 12.10
[09:13] <Xethron> I always wondered, whats up with Ubuntu's version numbers .04 and .10?
[09:13] <mazal> April and October
[09:13] <mazal> The month it releases in
[09:14] <Kilos> thats the release month
[09:14] <Xethron> aaaaah. wow.
[09:14] <Kilos> whew im too slow
[09:14] <mazal> :-P
[09:14] <mazal> lol
[09:16] <Kilos> mazal, is your buddy still there too?
[09:16] <mazal> Kilos but I think the developer is going to take down both 12.04 and 12.10's repos as it's 3rd party that he maintains himself
[09:16] <Kilos> oh you mean for remastersys?
[09:16] <mazal> Yep he is here , working way too hard
[09:17] <mazal> yep
[09:17] <Kilos> then get it now
[09:17] <Kilos> hehe
[09:17] <mazal> Ya current install is fine , I'm worrying for 13.10
[09:18] <Kilos> lol
[09:18] <Kilos> dont worry about stuff thats still far ahead
[09:19] <mazal> I also still want to play with X , but just don't get the time hey
[09:19] <mazal> Ans also still need external for it
[09:19] <Kilos> play with x how?
[09:19] <mazal> Xubuntu I'm speaking off
[09:19] <Kilos> oh i got that too
[09:19] <Kilos> but 12.04
[09:20] <mazal> Want to install it to external and just play a bit to check it out
[09:20] <Kilos> faster than unity
[09:20] <mazal> Got as far as downloading the iso lol
[09:20] <Kilos> only prob i can find it no sound in xchat
[09:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos, sound works fine if you use .wav files
[09:44] <Kilos> will try it when i go x again ty ThatGraemeGuy 
[09:44] <Kilos> will vonvert the .ogg to .wav
[09:44] <Kilos> convert
[09:45] <Kilos> its like winsucks then with its wav files
[09:46] <Kilos> maybe there is something to install that will let it use .ogg files
[09:46] <Kilos> some gnome stuff
[09:47] <Kilos> i think i got it working on 11.04 but thats hard to remember what i did
[09:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> if you have mplayer installed you can tell it to use external program /usr/bin/mplayer
[09:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> i thought /usr/bin/aplay would work but that doesn't support anything but .wav
[09:48] <Kilos> ah great ty
[09:48] <ThatGraemeGuy> and mplayer will play every format ever invented
[09:49] <Kilos> strange to see a ubuntu flavour that dont like .ogg
[09:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> its just xchat that only supports wav by default
[09:49] <Kilos> yeah crazy hey? all other sound works
[09:52] <Kilos> lemme go back to x
[09:52] <Kilos> wbb
[10:11] <Kilos-> w000t
[10:11] <Kilos-> ty ThatGraemeGuy 
[10:12] <Kilos-> had to add the path to some goodies in that settings page
[10:12] <Kilos-> one of them was the right one
[10:13] <Kilos-> hehe
[10:16] <charl> good afternoon
[10:16] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[10:16]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[10:16] <Kilos-> hi charl 
[10:16] <charl> hi Kilos- 
[10:20] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[10:26] <Kilos-> hi nlsthzn 
[10:27] <Kilos-> magespawn, 1 more
[10:27] <Kilos-> hi psyatw 
[10:28] <Kilos-> aw
[10:28] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[10:28] <nlsthzn> hello uncle Kilos 
[10:28] <psyatw> hi nlsthzn
[10:30] <nlsthzn> hi psyatw ... in poland?
[10:30] <psyatw> nlsthzn, yes, I am in poland now
[10:31] <nlsthzn> cool
[10:36] <Kilos-> hi drussell winter comin here fast. hope you get some warmer weather there
[10:36] <magespawn> Kilos: one comes one goes, but overall the numbers go up
[10:37] <Kilos-> yeah
[10:37] <Kilos-> but keeps stopping short of 50
[10:37] <Kilos-> sigh
[10:38] <Kilos> oh my
[10:41] <magespawn> well is Some people would stay ....
[10:43] <Kilos> sigh
[10:43] <nlsthzn> everything ok uncle Kilos ?
[10:44] <Kilos> yes ty nlsthzn just all these peeps that go before we get to 50
[10:44] <nlsthzn> 50 users in channel you mean?
[10:44] <Kilos> ya then i can retire
[10:45] <nlsthzn> hmmm... would rather have 10 active than 100 lurking...
[10:46] <Kilos> peeps are to busy to be active unless you call them
[10:46] <Kilos> even then you can wait some
[10:47] <nlsthzn> point is, what difference is 50 or 51 users that are afk going to make? ... Well anyhow, I better go make myself human... bbl
[10:49] <Kilos> lol
[10:52] <nuvolari> o/
[10:54] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[10:55] <Kilos> gebruik jy xubuntu of xfce
[11:14] <Xethron_> lol
[11:15] <Xethron_> Ek stem nogal saam met nlsthzn.
[11:16] <magespawn> that is true, I think Kilos is trying to get at least 50 active members
[11:21] <Xethron> whois trender?
[11:24] <Kilos> some oke in durbs
[11:25] <Kilos> working on old nas boxes
[12:26] <superfly> ohi Xethron
[12:41] <mazal> Bye all
[12:41] <mazal> Have a good evening
[13:16] <nuvolari> Kilos: ek gebruik xubuntu oom
[13:17] <nuvolari> wel, ubuntu base met xubuntu transitional package 
[13:17] <Kilos> o
[13:18] <Kilos> dis nie te sleg nie, en vinniger as unity en kde
[13:29] <charl> xubuntu transitional? transitional to what?
[13:50] <Kilos> lol
[13:51] <Kilos> to xubuntu from ubuntu man
[13:51] <Kilos> unity made him lame
[13:54] <Kilos> most likely added xubuntu-desktop
[13:55] <Kilos> or xfce or something
[13:55] <charl> oh now i understand it
[13:56] <charl> you get transitional packages but afaik xubuntu-desktop wasn't one of them, hence the confusion
[13:56] <charl> you just install the xubuntu-desktop alongside the ubuntu-desktop packages
[13:57] <Kilos> ya
[13:57] <Kilos> it should be in synaptic
[13:57] <charl> i installed ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-desktop on some machines
[13:57] <charl> but then you get so many packages that need to be maintained and constantly updated, it becomes a pain
[13:58] <charl> it's possible but not exactly "clean"
[13:58] <Kilos> lol thats why my saved archives are 6.2 g
[14:09] <Trixar_za> I need to redo this desktop. Find something lighter that doesn't look too bad. Maybe latest spacefm with pekwm and some lightweight taskbar
[14:17] <charl> Trixar_za: spacefm looks good but it doesn't have a package in the standard repositories so i typically go with thunar
[14:18] <Trixar_za> Not a real problem for me consider I'm the one that must semi-maintain it for SliTaz
[14:18] <charl> lol
[14:18] <Trixar_za> Not so sure I want to use lxpanel though. What else is good?
[14:19] <charl> i use tint2
[14:19] <charl> there could be better ones though, i am open to suggestions
[14:20] <charl> any advantages of pekwm above openbox?
[14:24] <Trixar_za> So far, all I see is that it has better looking themes :P
[14:25] <Trixar_za> Still have to figure out how to auto-start applications in it or if that's even possible...
[14:25] <charl> it = pekwm or openbox?
[14:25] <Trixar_za> pekwm
[14:25] <charl> ah i see
[14:25] <charl> i saw some screenshots and actually thought the opposite :)
[14:26] <Trixar_za> Probably because the default theme sucks :P
[14:26] <Trixar_za> https://www.pekwm.org/projects/3/wikis/Screenshots
[14:32] <Symmetria> http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=ZAR&view=1W
[14:32] <Symmetria> goddamn
[14:32] <charl> the first look terrible and then the last couple look great
[14:33] <charl> Symmetria: the rand broke (again)?
[14:33] <Symmetria> charl, heh, rand is plunging 
[14:33] <Symmetria> which is good for me, but terrible for everyone else
[14:35] <Symmetria> (all my earnings are in dollars, without exception)
[14:37] <nuvolari> Trixar_za: if you're worried about themes, use xmonad :P
[14:43] <Trixar_za> Hmmm, maybe IceWM too
[14:43] <Trixar_za> Mostly because of this theme: http://box-look.org/content/show.php/FauxGlass?content=73238
[14:48] <charl> yeah it depends a lot on the theme
[14:48] <charl> i just need something that looks "acceptable", i don't need anything fancy
[14:51] <Symmetria> lol new fun game to play with my stupid dog, that photo booth application on my macbook, haha load it, stick notebook infront of dog, dog starts watching herself, and eventually starts barking and growling at herself
[14:51] <Symmetria> its like sticking a mirror infront of her
[15:00] <charl> it's more realistic even because she doesn't get a mirrored reflection but the "proper" image
[15:01] <charl> not that she would notice
[15:32] <Kilos> aw me missed the honeymy
[15:32] <Kilos> hehe
[15:46] <Guest2700> hlw
[15:46] <Kilos> hi Guest2700 
[16:58] <nlsthzn> time to see what the new xbox will have in store ...
[17:29] <Xethron> Kilos: what do you do for a living?
[17:30] <Kilos> im disabled kinda Xethron 
[17:30] <Kilos> cant work anymore
[17:31] <Kilos> just cook and wash dishes and look after sheep on my sisters plot
[17:32] <Kilos> and told you yesterday im a ballie
[17:34] <Kilos> nlsthzn, are xboxes better the playstations
[17:37] <nlsthzn> I believe so but it is all opinion
[17:37] <nlsthzn> the new one looks awesome
[17:39] <Kilos> lol
[17:42] <nlsthzn> they upped memory from 512mb to 8gb, octo core :)
[17:42] <Kilos> whew
[17:43] <Tonberry_> http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/008/2/2/_wallpaper__glorious_pc_gaming_master_race_by_admiralserenity-d5qvxos.png
[17:43] <nlsthzn> lol
[18:04] <nlsthzn> g night
[18:06] <smile4ever> Hi :D
[18:06] <Kilos> hi smile4ever 
[18:06] <smile4ever> Hi kilos :)
[18:06] <smile4ever> How are you, my friend?
[18:07] <Kilos> good ty and you young man?
[18:09] <Xethron> Kilos: ah. I see
[18:10] <Kilos> hehe
[18:10] <Xethron> Kilos: you say you can't work anymore
[18:10] <Xethron> so, what did you do?
[18:10] <Kilos> bust my head wide open while working on a windmill
[18:11] <smile4ever> Kilos: I'm fine too
[18:11] <smile4ever> :)
[18:11] <smile4ever> Skype 4.2, new version, was released
[18:11] <Xethron> I mean, work wise. what work did you do?
[18:11] <smile4ever> But I'm not that sure it won't break anything on my Ubuntu Unity ;) So I just keep the old version
[18:11] <Kilos> oh sorry, was a diesel mechanic then farm manager
[18:12] <Xethron> ah
[18:12] <Xethron> So you can fix my car?
[18:12] <Xethron> :P
[18:12] <Kilos> but started in the gpo as a technician
[18:12] <smile4ever> Xethron: if you go to his home town, yes, he can :P
[18:13] <Kilos> whats wrong with it
[18:13] <Xethron> lol
[18:13] <Xethron> ag, I serviced it, and the plastic diesel pipes running in and out of the diesel filter where quite old, and I think the o-rings as well
[18:14] <Xethron> So, some how, it now leaks diesel... And gets air into the mix
[18:14] <Kilos> oh my do they use plastic nowadays
[18:15] <Kilos> oh those to the filter
[18:15] <Xethron> Still runs well... And I can't buy the o-rings from Mercedes, and the pipes cost like R800/900 for the 5 pipes
[18:15] <Xethron> yeah, not the ones after the diesel pump. they still steel
[18:15] <Kilos> check where it leaks and replace the orings
[18:16] <Kilos> take a sample oring to midas or one of them they will match it
[18:16] <Xethron> I bought two pipes. So gonne see if I can find the o-rings somewhere
[18:16] <Xethron> midas said they don't have :/
[18:16] <Kilos> or even one of the diesle injection companies
[18:16] <Kilos> there are companies that do the oring bit
[18:17] <Xethron> But, it was only a joke. :) Don't want to talk diesel in an ubuntu channel :P
[18:17] <Kilos> lemme ask sis if she remembers where we went
[18:17] <Xethron> But great to see there are a few IT guys that can work with their hands!
[18:18] <Kilos> we went to a place called seal centre
[18:18] <Kilos> im no IT guy
[18:18] <Kilos> just starting
[18:18] <Kilos> but forget most of what i learn anyway
[18:19] <Kilos> thats why the guys all lurk when i come online
[18:19] <Kilos> where are you Xethron ?
[18:24] <Kilos> hi superfly cant remember if i greeted you inna morn
[18:24] <Kilos> hows the packing coming on
[18:25] <superfly> Kilos: I can't either. It has been a busy day.
[18:25] <smile4ever> Xethron is fading away in the dark, Kilos
[18:25] <Kilos> hehe old age
[18:25] <smile4ever> Like me ;)
[18:25] <Kilos> i see so smile4ever 
[18:25] <smile4ever> Sometimes, when I don't pay attention
[18:25] <smile4ever> :P
[18:25] <Kilos> you guys are scared you have to think for me
[18:25] <smile4ever> I get lost within the chat history and forget to answer
[18:25] <Kilos> lol
[18:26] <smile4ever> Kilos: why's that? :P Can't you think alone?
[18:26] <Kilos> nope my brains are online here
[18:26] <Kilos> you read my blog
[18:27] <Kilos> the working half of my brain is lying onna farm under a windmill
[18:27] <smile4ever> I have read it yes. You don't write new episodes (days/chapters), do you?
[18:28] <Kilos> na i gave up
[18:28] <Kilos> closed it down
[18:30] <smile4ever> :(
[18:30] <smile4ever> That's a pity :) Because it's worth reading
[18:31] <Kilos> ive also run out of stuff to say
[18:31] <Kilos> hehe
[18:31] <Kilos> that was a major effort that blog
[18:32] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za 
[18:32] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[18:32] <Trixar_za> So totally broke stuff
[18:32] <smile4ever> Kilos: thanks for the conversation :) 
[18:32] <Trixar_za> :P
[18:32] <smile4ever> I have to go, I'm afraid
[18:32] <smile4ever> see ya
[18:32] <smile4ever> :)
[18:32] <Kilos> anytime smile4ever 
[18:32] <Kilos> sleep tight laddy
[18:34] <smile4ever> thanks :)
[19:00] <Xethron> sorry Kilos 
[19:00] <Xethron> I looked it up
[19:00] <Xethron> There is one in Pretoria :D
[19:00] <Kilos> np
[19:00] <Xethron> like 30 mins from me
[19:00] <Kilos> in moot street
[19:01] <Kilos> they normally can match any orings
[19:01] <Kilos> or even make them up for you
[19:01] <Xethron> sweet!!! :D
[19:01] <Xethron> going to give it a try!
[19:01] <Xethron> I'll let you know if it works
[19:04] <Kilos> cool
[19:05] <Kilos> also remember with diesel vehicles your diesel filter is about the most important thing to change when servbicing
[19:05] <Kilos> servicing
[19:40] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight